On the Christian Faith 1.10–1.16

Latin text: Migne, PL 16 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 2, vol. 10 (1896).

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Chapter 1

1.10PL 16:541c–543a

Accipe aliud quo clareat Filium sempiter­ num. Apostolus dicit quod Dei sempiterna virtus sit atque divinitas: virtus autem Dei Christus; scriptum est enim Christum esse Dei vir­ tutem, et Dei sapientiam. Ergo si Christus est Dei virtus, quia virtus Dei sempiterna: sempiternus igitur et Christus. Non ergo ex usu generationis humanæ calum­ niam, haeretice, struas; neque ex nostro sermone componas. Neque enim angustis sermonibus nostris immensae magnitudinem possumus divinitatis inclu­ dere, cujus magnitudinis non est finis. Namque hominis generationem si definire conten­ das, tempus ostendis: generatio autem divina supra omnia est: late patet, supra omnes cogitationes as­ cendit et sensus. Scriptum est enim: Nemo venit ad Patrem, nisi per me. Quidquid igitur de Patre cogitaveris, quamlibet ejus æternitatem, non putes de eo aliquid nisi per Filium cogitare: nec potest ullus ad Patrem nisi per Filium transire sensus. Hic est, inquit, Filius meus dilectissimus. Est, inquit, qui quod est, semper est. Unde et David: In œternum, inquit, Domine, permanet Verbum tuum in cælo. Quod enim manet, nec substantia, nec aeternitate deficit. Quaeris a me quomodo Filius sit, si non prio­ rem habeat Patrem? Quaero item abs te, quando aut quomodo Filium putes esse generatum? Mihi enim impossibile est generationis scire secretum: mens deficit, vox silet, non mea tantum, sed et angelo­ rum. Supra Potestates, supra Angelos, supra Che­ rubim, supra Seraphim, supra omnem sensum est; quia scriptum est: Pax autem Christi quœ est su­ pra omnem sensum. Si pax Christi supra omnem sensum est, quemadmodum non est supra omnem sensum tanta generatio? Tu quoque manum ori admove, scrutari non licet superna mysteria. Licet scire quod natus sit: non licet discutere quemadmodum natus sit. Illud negare mihi non licet, hoc quærere metus est. Nam si Paulus ea quae audivit raptus in tertium coelum, ineffabilia dicit, quomodo nos exprimere possumus paternae generationis arcanum, quod nec sentire po­ tuimus, nec audire? Verum si me ad consuetudinem trahis gene­ rationis humanæ, ut Patrem dicas priorem; vide utrum ad generationem Dei terrenae generationis exempla conveniant. Si secundum hominem loqua­ mur, negare non poteris priores esse in homine patris quam filii passiones. Prior crevit, prior senuit, prior doluit, prior flevit. Si igitur hic tempore minor, ille antiquior passione. Si hic generationis incurrit ætatem, nec ille generandi evasit pu­ dorem. Quid te ista quæstionum tormenta delectant! Audis Dei Filium: aut dele nomen, aut agnosce na­ turam. Audis uterum, agnosce generationis per­ spicuæ veritatem. Audis cor, Verbum intellige. Au­ dis dexteram, agnosce virtutem. Audis os, agnosce sapientiam. Non hæc sunt in Deo corporaliter aesti­ manda. Incomprehensibiliter generatur Filius: im­ passibiliter generat Pater; et tamen ex se generavit, et ante omnem intellectum generavit Deus verus Deum verum. Pater diligit, et tu discutis: Pater com­ placet, et tu cum Judaeis invides: Pater honorifi­ cat, et tu cum gentibus conviciaris.

Take another argument to make it clear that the Son is everlasting. The Apostle says that God’s power and divinity are everlasting; and Christ is the power of God, for it is written that Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God. If, then, Christ is the power of God, since the power of God is everlasting, Christ too is therefore everlasting. Do not, then, heretic, build a false charge on the custom of human generation, nor make one up out of our way of speaking. For we cannot shut up in our narrow words the greatness of the immeasurable divinity, “of whose greatness there is no end.” For if you set out to define the generation of a man, you point to a time; but the divine generation is above all things; it extends far and wide; it rises above all thoughts and senses. For it is written: “No one comes to the Father except through me.” Whatever, then, you think of the Father, however great you think his eternity, do not suppose that you think anything of him except through the Son; nor can any understanding pass to the Father except through the Son. “This is,” he says, “my most beloved Son.” “Is,” he says: he who is what he is always is. Hence David also says: “For ever, O Lord, your Word abides in heaven.” For what abides fails neither in substance nor in eternity. Do you ask me how he is Son, if he does not have a Father prior to him? I in turn ask you when, or how, you think the Son was begotten. For to me it is impossible to know the secret of his generation: the mind fails, the voice is silent, not only mine but the angels’ too. It is above the Powers, above the Angels, above the Cherubim, above the Seraphim, above all understanding; for it is written: “And the peace of Christ, which is above all understanding.” If the peace of Christ is above all understanding, how is so great a generation not above all understanding? You too, lay your hand on your mouth; it is not lawful to pry into the mysteries above. It is lawful to know that he was born; it is not lawful to examine how he was born. The one I may not deny; the other I am afraid to inquire into. For if Paul says that what he heard when he was caught up into the third heaven cannot be uttered, how can we express the secret of the Father’s generation, which we could neither perceive nor hear? But if you drag me to the custom of human generation, so as to say that the Father is prior, see whether examples from earthly generation suit the generation of God. If we speak in human terms, you cannot deny that in human beings the father’s experiences come before the son’s. He grew first, he grew old first, he grieved first, he wept first. If, then, the son is younger in time, the father is older in suffering. If the son has incurred the stage of life that comes with being born, neither has the father escaped the shame of begetting. Why do these racks of questions delight you? You hear “Son of God”: either erase the name or acknowledge the nature. You hear “womb”: acknowledge the truth of a manifest generation. You hear “heart”: understand the Word. You hear “right hand”: acknowledge the power. You hear “mouth”: acknowledge the wisdom. These things are not to be reckoned in God in a bodily way. The Son is begotten incomprehensibly; the Father begets impassibly; and yet he begot from himself, and before all understanding true God begot true God. The Father loves, and you examine; the Father is well pleased, and you with the Jews look on with envy; the Father honors, and you with the pagans revile.

Rom 1:20 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 1:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 145:3 (144:3 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 3:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 119:89 (118:89 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 4:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 40:4 (allusion, low confidence) · 2 Cor 12:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 110:3 (109:3 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence) · Ps 45:1 (44:2 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence) · John 3:35 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 17:5 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Ambrose argues that Christ, the everlasting power of God, is everlasting, and that the divine generation is beyond understanding and cannot be measured by human generation.

  • The digital text begins this chapter with the end of Migne’s chapter heading, removed by a logged correction. Quotations and allusions: Rom 1:20; 1 Cor 1:24; Ps 145:3 (LXX 144:3); John 14:6; Matt 3:17; Ps 119:89 (LXX 118:89); Phil 4:7; Job 40:4 (hand on mouth); 2 Cor 12:2–4; “womb” Ps 110:3 (LXX 109:3); “heart” Ps 45:1 (LXX 44:2); John 3:35; Matt 17:5.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip and inline footnote letter; end of Migne's chapter heading; inline footnote letter or column number of the digitization): telligendum esse declarat.; fit. → ; sempiternus ighur → sempiternus igitur; Unde ct David → Unde et David; lanium, sed → tantum, sed; Chrisli b quœ → Christi quœ; nou est supra → non est supra; tanta geueratio → tanta generatio; mysleria → mysteria; pa- Iris quam → patris quam; prior nevit. Si igitur hie → prior flevit. Si igitur hic; general Pater → generat Pater; al tu discutis → et tu discutis; genUbus → gentibus; sit e → sit; dilectissimus. a → dilectissimus.; admove, c → admove,; passiones. 457 → passiones.; turam. d → turam..

Topics: Christology, Trinity

Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Fid. 1.10 (PL 16:541c–543a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ambrose-fide/1-10/#p-1-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 16 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 10 (de Romestin, 1896); differences checked against the Latin.

1.11PL 16:543b–545c

Quaeris a me utrum prior non possit esse, qui Pater est. Quæro a te, ut doceas quando Pater prior fuerit, testimoniis, aut argumentis collige veritatem. Si testimoniis, accepisti utique sempiternam Dei esse virtutem. Legisti etiam dicentem: Israel, si me audieris, non erit in te Deus recens, neque adorabis Deum alienum. Aliud horum æternitatem, aliud proprietatem substantiae indifferentis significat; ut neque posteriorem Patre, neque alte­ rius divinitatis Filium esse credamus. Nam si Patre posterior est, recens est: et si unius non est divini­ tatis, alienus est. Sed nec posterior; quia recens non est: nec alienus, quia ex Patre natus; quia supra omnia est Deus benedictus in sœcula, si­ cut scriptum est. Sed si alienum putant, cur adorant eum, cum scriptum sit: Neque adorabis Deum alienum? Aut si non adorant, fateantur, et fi­ nis est; ne quem sub religiosi nominis professione decipiant. Hæc nempe sunt testimonia Scripturarum. Aut si habes aliud, proferre debebis. Superest ut et argumentis veritas colligatur. Quamquam etiam humanis testimoniis argumenta cedere soleant; argumentare tamen, haeretice, ut voles. Usu, inquis, accipimus eo qui nascitur, prio­ rem esse qui general. Persequere igitur omnia ve­ stigia consuetudinis, et si cætera conveniunt, non ob­ sisto quin et istud requiras: si autem nulla concordant, quemadmodum cum desint cætera, hoc solum exigis? Ergo quia usum requiris, quando generatus est ex Patre, parvulus fuit. Vidisti in cunis infantu­ lum vagientem, processus aliquos accepit ætatis; si enim infirmitatem generationis habuit, necesse est ut non solum nascendi, sed etiam vivendi in­ ciderit infirmitatem. Sed fortasse eo prolabaris amentiæ, ut de Dei Filio ita non abnuas, qui eum ex infirmitate metiris humana; quid si Deum negare non potes nomine, infirmitate tamen hominem vis probare? Quid si dum Filium discutis, Patrem arguis: et dum Christo præjudicas, Patrem adjudicas? Nam si divina generatio subjecta tempori fuit, et id ex usu generationis usurpatur humanae; ergo et Pater corporali utero portavit Filium, decem mensium curriculis onus vexit. Sed quomodo sine sexu altero generationis usus? Vides solemnem ge­ nerationis seriem non coepisse, et tu partus cujus­ dam corporeæ necessitatis putas fuisse solemnes. Tu usum quæris, ego sexum: tu tempus exigis, ego or­ dinem: tu finem discutis, ego quaero principium, Nempe finis ex principio, non principium pendet ex fine. Omne, inquis, quod natum est, principium ha­ bet; et ideo quia Filius est, principium habet, et ex tempore esse caepit. Quod ipsorum ore sit dictum. Ego autem Filium natum esse profiteor: quod reli­ quum est impietatis, horresco. Deum confiteris, homo, et tali circumscribis calumnia? Deus hanc averruncet amentiam.

You ask me whether he who is Father can fail to be prior. I ask you to show me when the Father was prior: gather the truth from testimonies or from arguments. If from testimonies, you have certainly received that God’s power is everlasting. You have also read the one who says: “Israel, if you hear me, there shall be no new God in you, nor shall you worship a strange God.” The one of these signifies eternity, the other the property of a substance without difference, so that we may believe the Son neither later than the Father nor of another divinity. For if he is later than the Father, he is new; and if he is not of one divinity, he is strange. But he is not later, for he is not new; nor is he strange, for he was born of the Father, and because, as it is written, he is “God over all, blessed for ever.” But if they think him strange, why do they worship him, when it is written: “Nor shall you worship a strange God”? Or, if they do not worship him, let them say so, and there is an end of it, so that they deceive no one under the profession of a religious name. These, then, are the testimonies of the Scriptures. Or if you have another, you must bring it forward. It remains for the truth to be gathered from arguments as well. Although arguments usually give way even to human testimonies, still, argue as you will, heretic. “We learn from experience,” you say, “that he who begets is prior to him who is born.” Follow out, then, all the traces of custom; and if the rest agree, I do not object to your requiring this too; but if none agrees, how can you demand this alone when all the rest are lacking? So, since you require custom: when he was begotten of the Father, he was a little child. You have seen a little infant wailing in the cradle; he received certain advances of age; for if he had the infirmity of generation, he must have incurred the infirmity not only of being born but also of living. But perhaps you slip into such madness as not to refuse to say this of the Son of God, measuring him as you do by human infirmity. What if, though you cannot deny him the name of God, you want to prove him a man by his infirmity? What if, while you examine the Son, you accuse the Father, and while you prejudge Christ, you condemn the Father along with him? For if the divine generation was subject to time, and this is claimed from the custom of human generation, then the Father too carried the Son in a bodily womb and bore the burden through the course of ten months. But how is there the custom of generation without the other sex? You see that the customary order of generation did not apply at the beginning, and yet you think that the births bound to a certain bodily necessity were the custom. You look for custom, I for sex; you demand time, I order; you examine the end, I seek the beginning. Surely the end depends on the beginning, not the beginning on the end. “Everything,” you say, “that is born has a beginning; and so, because he is Son, he has a beginning and began to exist in time.” Let that be said by their own mouth. I, for my part, profess that the Son was born; at the rest of it, which is impiety, I shudder. Man, you confess God, and do you hem him in with such a slander? May God avert this madness!

Ps 81:9 (80:10 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 9:5 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Ambrose argues from Ps 81:9 that the Son is neither a “new” nor a “strange” God, and shows that arguments from the custom of human birth lead to absurdities.

  • Quotations: Ps 81:9 (LXX 80:10); Rom 9:5. The Latin “Deus recens” (“new God”) follows the Septuagint (θεὸς πρόσφατος).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; inline footnote letter; inline footnote letter or column number of the digitization; stray marks and inline footnote letter): ti me audieris, nou erit → si me audieris, non erit; æterni.. tatem, aliud e proprietatem → æternitatem, aliud proprietatem; ncque alte → neque alte; rcligiosi → religiosi; solcant → soleant; ut 'voles → ut voles; coqui nascitur → eo qui nascitur; sicætera → si cætera; concor­ dam → concordant; hoc solum exigis i Ergo → hoc solum exigis? Ergo; et tu a partus → et tu partus; usum quxris → usum quæris; circumseribis → circumscribis; Dcus hanc → Deus hanc; putant, f → putant,; est 458 → est.

Topics: Christology, Trinity

Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Fid. 1.11 (PL 16:543b–545c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ambrose-fide/1-10/#p-1-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.12PL 16:545c–547a

Rursus objiciunt: Ergo non est Filius, si non habet quae habent filii. Ignoscat mihi Pater, ignos­ cat Filius, ignoscat et Spiritus sanctus, quaestio­ nem pro pietate referre cupienti. Est certe Pater, et manet semper: sunt etiam creaturae pro dispositione divina. Est ergo aliquid earum quod non subjectum sit aut locis, aut temporibus, aut creationi, aut causæ alicui vel auctori? Profecto nihil. Quid ergo dicitis? Est horum aliquid quo egeat Pater? Impium est dicere. Ergo aut desinite, quae creatu­ rarum sunt, aptare divinitati: aut si comparare contenditis, considerate quo vestra procedat impie­ tas; quod absit ut vel in sensus nostros aliquando veniat. Nos enim piam responsionem tenemus. Nam­ que omnipotens Deus est, et ideo nullo eorum Pa­ ter indiget, qui non habet mutationem sui aliquam, vel profectum quo nos egemus, quorum infirmitas ex hujusmodi rebus profectum accipit. Qui autem om­ nipotens est, utique non creatus, et sine loco, et supra tempora est. Nihil enim ante Deum, immo hoc ipsum Verbum, ante Deum dicere esse aliquid, grave. Ergo si ita est, quia nihil horum est in Deo Patre, quae profectum significent; quia Deus est: nihil horum aptari etiam potest Dei Filio, ut vel ini­ tium accipiat, vel profectum; quia Deus verus ex Deo vero est. Ergo quia usitatum non reperimus ordinem, acquiesce, Ariane, præcipuam Filii generationem fuisse. Acquiesce, inquam; et si mihi non credis, erubesce vel Dei vocem dicentis: Cui me similem æstimastis?Et iterum: Quia non sicut homo, ita et Deus. Etenim si opera­ tio Dei præcipua est, quia non manibus operatur ali­ quid, non labore conficit, non diebus absolvit; Ipse enim dixit, et facta sunt, ipse mandavit, et creata sunt: cur non credamus praecipuam generationem esse ejus in Filio, cujus praecipuam creationem in operibus agnoscimus? Dignum certe est ut specialiter et præcipue videatur generasse Fi­ lium. Habeat generationis inusitatae gloriam, qui ha­ bet potestatis inusitatæ gratiam. Non sola admirabilis ex Patre generatio Christi, admirabilis etiam ipsa generatio ejus ex Virgine. Tu illam dicis nostrae similem conceptionis, et ego probo et istam nostræ esse dissimilem, immo te ipsum co­ gam fateri. Dic quemadmodum sit natus ex Maria, quo usu uterus eum habuerit virginalis, quomodo sine semine viri partus, unde virgo prægnans, quem­ admodum puella mater ante fellis, quam copulam ut uxor experta? Causa deerat, et generabatur filius. Unde ergo legis novatae partus? Si igitur in Virgine usus defuit generationis humanae, quemadmodum in Deo Patre propriae ge­ nerationis usum requiris? Certe usus in sexu est, quia sexus in carne est: ubi ergo caro non est, quemadmodum carnis infirmitatem exigis? Nemo meliorem discutit: credere tibi jussum est, non dis­ cutere permissum est. Scriptum est enim: Credidit Abraham Deo, et reputatum est illi ad justitiam. Nec solum in generatione Filii sermo defi­ cit, sed etiam in operibus Dei. Scriptum est enim: Omnia opera ejus in fide. Opera ergo in fide, generatio sine fide? Et discutimus quæ non videmus, qui jubemur credere magis quam discutere, quae videmus.

Again they object: “Then he is not Son, if he does not have what sons have.” May the Father pardon me, may the Son pardon me, may the Holy Spirit pardon me, as I wish to report the question for the sake of piety. Certainly the Father is, and abides always; there are also creatures, by the divine disposition. Is there, then, any of them that is not subject to places, or to times, or to creation, or to some cause or author? Surely none. What then do you say? Is there any of these things that the Father needs? It is impious to say so. Either, then, stop applying to the divinity what belongs to creatures, or, if you insist on comparing, consider where your impiety is heading; may it never so much as enter our thoughts! For we hold to a devout answer. God is almighty, and so the Father needs none of these things, for he undergoes no change of himself and no advance such as we need, whose infirmity gains advancement from such things. But he who is almighty is certainly not created; he is without place and above time. For there is nothing before God; indeed it is a grievous thing even to say this very word, that something is before God. If, then, this is so, that there is nothing in God the Father of the things that signify advancement, because he is God, then none of these things can be applied to the Son of God either, so that he should receive either a beginning or an advance, because he is true God from true God. So, since we do not find the customary order, accept, Arian, that the generation of the Son was unique. Accept it, I say; and if you do not believe me, blush at least at the voice of God, who says: “To whom have you likened me?” And again: “For God is not as man is.” For if the working of God is unique, because he does not work anything with hands, does not complete it by labor, does not finish it in days (“for he spoke, and they were made; he commanded, and they were created”), why should we not believe that his generation in the Son is unique, when we recognize that his creation in his works is unique? It is certainly fitting that he should be seen to have begotten the Son in a special and unique way. Let him who has the grace of an unusual power have the glory of an unusual generation. Not only is Christ’s generation from the Father wonderful; his very generation from the Virgin is wonderful too. You say that the former is like our conception; I prove that even the latter is unlike ours; indeed, I will make you yourself confess it. Tell me how he was born of Mary, by what custom a virgin womb held him, how there was a birth without a man’s seed, how a virgin was pregnant, how a girl became a mother before she knew union as a wife. The cause was lacking, and yet a son was begotten. Whence, then, the birth by a renewed law? If, then, in the Virgin the custom of human generation was lacking, how can you require in God the Father the custom of ordinary generation? Certainly custom belongs to sex, because sex belongs to the flesh; where, then, there is no flesh, how can you demand the infirmity of the flesh? No one sits in judgment on his superior: you have been commanded to believe, not permitted to examine. For it is written: “Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness.” Speech fails not only in the generation of the Son but also in the works of God. For it is written: “All his works are in faith.” Are his works, then, in faith, and his generation without faith? And do we examine what we do not see, we who are commanded to believe rather than to examine even the things we do see?

Isa 46:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Num 23:19 (quotation, medium confidence) · Ps 33:9 (32:9 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 15:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 33:4 (32:4 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Ambrose answers the objection that the Son lacks what sons have by arguing that nothing creaturely applies to God, that both Christ’s eternal generation and his birth from the Virgin are unique, and that they are to be believed, not examined.

  • Quotations: Isa 46:5; Num 23:19 (in the Latin form “God is not as man”); Ps 33:9 (148:5); Gen 15:6 (Rom 4:3); Ps 33:4 (LXX 32:4). In “how a girl became a mother before she knew union as a wife” the Latin is damaged (ante fellis, perhaps for ante feta); translated by sense.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; inline footnote letter and OCR slip; inline footnote letter or column number of the digitization): causas alicui → causæ alicui; vcniat → veniat; Quia non ticut homo, ita et Deut → Quia non sicut homo, ita et Deus; cujus d praecipuam crcationem → cujus praecipuam creationem; nostra: esse → nostræ esse; virgo prangnans → virgo prægnans; gcnerationia → generationis; mcliorem → meliorem; reputatum eat illi → reputatum est illi; generalione → generatione; eLiam → etiam; disculimus quæ nOD videmus → discutimus quæ non videmus; sanctus, b → sanctus,; est, 459 → est,; Deum c → Deum; quem­ admodum c → quem­ admodum.

Topics: Christology, Trinity

Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Fid. 1.12 (PL 16:545c–547a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ambrose-fide/1-10/#p-1-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 16 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 10 (de Romestin, 1896); differences checked against the Latin.

1.13PL 16:547a–547d

Dicet aliquis: Quomodo generatus est Filius? Quasi sempiternus, quasi Verbum, quasi splen­ dor lucis aeternæ, quia simul splendor operatur, ut nascitur. Apostoli istud exemplum est, non est meum. Noli ergo credere quod fuerit vel momentum aliquod quo fuerit sine sapientia Deus, aut sine splendore lux. Noli, Ariane, ex nostris æstimare divina: sed divina crede, ubi humana non invenis. Rex gentilis in igne cum tribus pueris He­ bræis quarti quasi angeli vidit figuram: et quia præstare putabat angelis, Dei Filium, quem non le­ git, sed credidit, judicavit. Abraham quoque tres vidit, et unum adoravit (Gen. xviu, 2). Petrus in monte Moysen et Eliam cum Filio Dei vidit, nec erravit in natura, nec erravit in glo­ ria. Denique quid facere deberet, non illos, sed Christum interrogavit; nam etsi tribus parabat obse­ quium, unius tamen exspectabat imperium. Sed quo­ niam vel tabernaculorum numerum deferendum tri­ bus simpliciter æstimavit, emendatur Dei Patris au­ ctoritate dicentis: Hic est Filius meus dilectissimus, ipsum audite, id est: Quid conser­ vos tuos cum Domino socias tuo? Hic est Filius meus. Non Moyses filius, non Elias filius: sed hic Filius. Sensit emendationem apostolus, procidit in faciem, consternatus Patris voce, et Filii claritate: sed sublevatur a Filio, qui jacentes erigere consue­ vit. Unum vidit, solum vidit Dei Filium. Recesserunt enim servuli, ut solus Dominus, qui solus designa­ batur Filius, videretur. Quid igitur sibi voluit illa visio, non æqualitatem Christi servorumque significans, sed mysterium signans, nisi ut appareret nobis quod Lex et Prophe­ tæ cum Evangelio congruentes, sempiternum Dei Filium, quem annuntia verant, revelarent? Ergo et nos cum audimus ex utero Filium, ex corde Verbum, credamus quia non plasmatus manibus, sed ex Patre natus: non artificis opus, sed progenies est pa­ rentis. Et ideo qui dicit: Hic est Filius meus, non dixit: Hic est temporalis; non dixit: Hæc est crea­ tura mea, hæc factura mea, hic servus meus; sed hic Filius meus, quem videtis in gloria. Hic est Deus Abraham, Deus Isaac, Deus Jacob, qui apparuit in rubo Moysi, de quo Moyses ait: Qui est, misit me. Non Pater in rubo, non Pater in eremo: sed Filius Moysi locutus est. Denique de ipso Stephanus dixit: Hic est qui fuit in Ecclesia, in eremo, cum angelo. Hic est ergo qui Legem dedit, ipse qui locutus est Moysi, dicens: Ego sum Deus Abraham, Deus Isaac, Deus Jacob (Exod. tu, 16). Hic est ergo Deus patriarcharum, hic Deus est prophetarum. Filium ergo legimus: mens tua percipit lec­ tionem, edat lingua confessionem. Aufer hinc argu­ menta, ubi fides quaeritur: in ipsis gymnasiis suis jam dialectica taceat. Non quaero quid loquantur philosophi, requiro quid faciant. Soli in suis gym­ nasiis remanserunt. Vide quam fides argu­ mentis præponderet. Illi quotidie a suis consortibus deseruntur, qui copiose disputant: isti quotidie crescunt, qui simpliciter credunt. Non creditur philosophis, creditur piscatoribus: non creditur dia­ lecticis, creditur publicanis. Illi voluptatibus et de­ liciis orbem ligarunt, isti jejuniis et doloribus exue­ runt. Plures itaque jam coepit illicere injuria, quam voluptas. Nunc videamus quo distant a gentilibus Ariani. Illi deos appellant dispares sexu, dissimiles potes­ tate: isti Trinitatem asserunt differentis divinitatis, et dissimilis potestatis. Illi deorum suorum principium asseverant temporale; et isti Christum coepisse ex tempore mentiuntur. Nonne ex philosophia om­ nem impietatis suæ traxerunt colorem? Illi tamen quod venerantur, amplificant: isti Dei Filium creaturam asserunt esse, qui Deus est.

Someone will say: “How was the Son begotten?” As one everlasting, as the Word, as the radiance of eternal light; for radiance is active at the very moment it is born. This example is the Apostle’s, not mine. Do not, then, believe that there was even a single moment in which God was without wisdom, or light without radiance. Do not, Arian, judge divine things from ours; but believe divine things where you do not find human ones. A pagan king saw in the fire with the three Hebrew youths the form of a fourth, as of an angel; and because he thought him superior to angels, he judged him to be the Son of God, of whom he had not read but whom he believed. Abraham too saw three and worshiped one. Peter on the mountain saw Moses and Elijah with the Son of God, and he made no mistake about the nature, nor about the glory. Indeed, he asked not them but Christ what he ought to do; for although he was preparing a service for three, he awaited the command of one. But because in his simplicity he thought that the tabernacles should be offered to three, he is corrected by the authority of God the Father, who says: “This is my most beloved Son; listen to him”; that is: why do you rank your fellow servants with your Lord? “This is my Son”: not Moses a son, not Elijah a son, but this one is the Son. The apostle perceived the correction; he fell on his face, overwhelmed by the Father’s voice and the Son’s brightness; but he is raised up by the Son, who is accustomed to lift up those who lie fallen. He saw one; he saw the Son of God alone. For the little servants withdrew, so that the Lord alone, who alone was designated Son, might be seen. What, then, did that vision mean, signifying not the equality of Christ and his servants but a mystery, except that it might be made plain to us that the Law and the Prophets, in agreement with the Gospel, revealed the everlasting Son of God whom they had announced? So when we too hear of the Son from the womb and the Word from the heart, let us believe that he was not formed by hands but born of the Father, not the work of a craftsman but the offspring of a parent. And so he who says, “This is my Son,” did not say, “This one is temporal”; he did not say, “This is my creature, this my making, this my servant”; but “This is my Son, whom you see in glory.” This is the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob, who appeared to Moses in the bush, of whom Moses says: “He who is has sent me.” It was not the Father in the bush, not the Father in the desert, but the Son who spoke to Moses. Indeed Stephen said of him: “This is he who was in the assembly in the wilderness with the angel.” This, then, is he who gave the Law, he who spoke to Moses, saying: “I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob.” This, then, is the God of the patriarchs; this is the God of the prophets. We read, then, of the Son: let your mind take in what is read; let your tongue give forth the confession. Away with arguments here, where faith is sought; let dialectic now keep silent even in its own schools. I do not ask what the philosophers say; I inquire what they do. They have been left alone in their schools. See how faith outweighs arguments. Those who dispute copiously are deserted daily by their companions; those who believe simply grow daily. Philosophers are not believed; fishermen are believed. Dialecticians are not believed; tax collectors are believed. The former bound the world with pleasures and delights; the latter stripped it of them by fasting and sufferings. And so suffering has now begun to attract more people than pleasure. Now let us see how far the Arians differ from the pagans. The pagans call their gods unequal in sex and unlike in power; the Arians assert a Trinity of differing divinity and unlike power. The pagans assert that their gods had a temporal beginning; the Arians falsely say that Christ began in time. Did they not draw the whole color of their impiety from philosophy? Yet the pagans magnify what they worship; the Arians assert that the Son of God, who is God, is a creature.

Heb 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Dan 3:25 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 18:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 17:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 17:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 17:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 3:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 3:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 7:38 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 3:6 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Ambrose answers “how was the Son begotten?” with the image of radiance from light, reads the furnace, Mamre, the Transfiguration, and the burning bush as revelations of the eternal Son, and contrasts simple faith with philosophical disputation.

  • Quotations and allusions: Heb 1:3 (radiance; cf. Wis 7:26); Dan 3:25; Gen 18:2; Matt 17:1–8 (the Father’s voice, Matt 17:5); Exod 3:2, 14, 6; Acts 7:38. Ambrose holds that it was the Son who spoke to Moses from the bush.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; column number; inline footnote letter; inline footnote letter and OCR slip; inline footnote letter or column number of the digitization; stray mark): generatus est a Filius → generatus est Filius; Verbum,460 quasi → Verbum, quasi; fucrit → fuerit; xsiimare → æstimare; præstare putabat. angelis → præstare putabat angelis; Hic eat Filiut meus → Hic est Filius meus; nun Elias → non Elias; sed hie Filius → sed hic Filius; facicm → faciem; non sequalitatem → non æqualitatem; nobisquod → nobis quod; uon artificis → non artificis; Deus Ahraham, Deus isaac → Deus Abraham, Deus Isaac; in raba Moysi → in rubo Moysi; b Non Patcr → Non Pater; Ego tum Deut Abraham → Ego sum Deus Abraham; me Deus est prophetarum → hic Deus est prophetarum; consorti­ hus → consortibus; phi­ losopbis → philosophis; crediturpublicanis → creditur publicanis; qao distant → quo distant; kti Trinitatem asserent → isti Trinitatem asserunt; princi­ piumi → principium; tanren qnod → tamen quod; ere ituram → creaturam; Vide 461 → Vide; præponderet. c → præponderet..

Extrabiblical texts: Wis 7:26 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; echo)

Topics: Christology, Trinity

Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Fid. 1.13 (PL 16:547a–547d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ambrose-fide/1-10/#p-1-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.14PL 16:547d–549c

Patuit, ut arbitror, sancte Imperator, neque dissimilem Patri, neque ex tem­ pore esse Dominum Jesum. Restat ut illud quoque sacrilegium redarguatur, et probemus creaturam non esse Dei Filium: in quo nobis præsentis oracu­ lum lectionis aspirat; audivimus enim legi, dicente Domino: Ite in orbem universum, et prædicate Evan­ gelium universæ creaturæ. Qui universam creaturam dicit, nullam excipit. Et ideo ubi sunt, qui creaturam Christum appellant? Nam si creatura esset, numquid ipse sibi mandaret Evange­ lium praedicari? Non igitur creatura est, sed creator, qui docendæ creaturæ discipulis suis mandat officium. Non creatura Christus: Vanitati enim creatura subjecta est, sicut Apostolus dixit. Numquid ergo Christus subjectus est vanitati? Rursus juxta eumdem Apostolum: Creatura congemiscit et comparturit usque nunc. Numquid ergo Christus congemiscit et comparturit, qui nostros a morte gemitus liberavit? Creatura, inquit, liberabitur a servitute corruptionis. Videmus igitur magnam inter creaturam et Dominum esse distantiam; quia servitii creatura est; Dominus autem spi­ ritus est; ubi autem spiritus Domini est, ibi libertas. Quis hunc induxit errorem, ut eum qui creavit omnia, qui regit omnia, diceret creaturam? Numquid ipse Dominus se creavit? Si enim lectum est quod per ipsum omnia facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil: numquid ipse se fecit? Si lectum est, quod negari non potest, quia Deus in sapientia fecit omnia: numquid verisimile videri potest quia in se ipsa est facta sapientia (Psal. ciii, 24)? Legimus genitum; quia Pater dixit: Ego ex utero ante Luciferum genui te. Legimus primogenitum Filium, legimus unigenitum: primogenitum, quia nemo ante ipsum: unigenitum, quia nemo post ipsum: legimus etiam: Generationem ejus quis enarrabit (Esai. LIII, 8)? Generationem, inquit, non creationem. Quid his tantis ac tatibus conferri potest. Ostendit etiam Dei Filius distantiam genera­ tionis et gratiae, dicens: Ascendo ad Patrem meum, et Patrem vestrum: Deum meum, et Deum vestrum. Non dixit: Ascendo ad Patrem no­ strum, sed; Ascendo ad Patrem meum, et Patrem ve­ strum. Separatio ista diversitatem ostendit, quod illius generator, noster creator sit. Et addidit: Deum meum, et Deum vestrum; quia licet ipse et Pater unum sint, et illi Pater sit proprietate naturæ, nobis Deus Pater cœperit esse per Filium, non naturæ jure, sed gratiae; tamen utramque naturam hic significare videtur in Christo et divinitatis et carnis, divinitatis ex Patre, carnis ex matre, illamque ante omnia, istamque ex Virgine. Denique ante Patrem ut Filius nominavit, Deum po­ stea ut homo nuncupavit. Ubique autem Deum suum quod ex persona dicat hominis, testimonia docent: Deus, Deus meus, respice me; quare me dereliquisti (Psal. xxi, i)? Et alibi: De ventre matris meæ Deus meus es tu. Et supra quasi homo patitur: et infra homo est, qui ex matris ventre jactatur. Itaque cum dicit: De ventre matris meæ Deus meus es tu; significat eum qui Pater semper erat, ex eo Deum sibi esse, ex quo de ventre matris jactatus est. Cum igitur in Evangelio, in Apostolo, in pro­ phetis generationem Christi legerimus, unde audent dicere creatum esse vel factum? Et quidem in quo creatum legerint, in quo factum, considerare debe­ rent. Edoctum est enim Dei Filium de Deo esse ge­ nitum, de Deo natum: factum autem in quo legerim, diligenter advertant; non enim Deus factus, sed Deus Dei Filius natus est: postea autem secundum carnem homo factus ex Maria est. Si mihi non credunt, credant Apostolo dicenti: Postquam vero venit plenitudo temporis, misit Deus Filium suum factum ex muliere, factum sub Lege (Ga­ at. iv, ł). Filium, inquit, suum, non unum de mul­ tis: non communem, sed suum. Suum cum dicit, generationis aeternae proprietatem signavit. Hunc postea factum ex muliere asseruit, ut factura non divinitati, sed assumptioni corporis ascriberetur: factum ex muliere per carnis susceptionem: factum sub Lege per observantiam Legis: generatio autem illa coelestis ante Legem, ista post Legem.

It has been made clear, I think, holy Emperor, that the Lord Jesus is neither unlike the Father nor from time. It remains to refute that other sacrilege too, and to prove that the Son of God is not a creature; and in this the oracle of today’s reading breathes help upon us, for we heard it read, with the Lord saying: “Go into the whole world and preach the Gospel to every creature.” He who says “every creature” excepts none. Where, then, are those who call Christ a creature? For if he were a creature, would he command the Gospel to be preached to himself? He is not, then, a creature, but the Creator, who entrusts to his disciples the duty of teaching the creature. Christ is not a creature: for “the creature was subjected to futility,” as the Apostle said. Was Christ, then, subjected to futility? Again, according to the same Apostle: “The creation groans and is in labor together until now.” Does Christ, then, groan and labor, he who freed our groanings from death? “The creation,” he says, “will be set free from the slavery of corruption.” We see, then, that there is a great distance between the creature and the Lord; for the creature belongs to slavery, but “the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.” Who brought in this error, so that someone should call him a creature who created all things, who rules all things? Did the Lord create himself? For if it is read that all things were made through him, and without him nothing was made, did he make himself? If it is read, as cannot be denied, that God made all things in wisdom, can it seem likely that wisdom was made in itself? We read that he was begotten, for the Father said: “From the womb, before the morning star, I begot you.” We read that the Son is firstborn; we read that he is only-begotten: firstborn, because no one is before him; only-begotten, because no one is after him. We read also: “Who will declare his generation?” “Generation,” it says, not creation. What can be set against such great testimonies? The Son of God also showed the difference between generation and grace, saying: “I ascend to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.” He did not say, “I ascend to our Father,” but, “I ascend to my Father and your Father.” This separation shows a difference: that he is his begetter, our creator. And he added: “my God and your God”; for although he and the Father are one, and the Father is his Father by the property of nature, while God began to be our Father through the Son, not by right of nature but of grace, yet here he seems to signify both natures in Christ, of divinity and of flesh: of divinity from the Father, of flesh from the mother; the one before all things, the other from the Virgin. Indeed he first named the Father as Son, and afterwards called him God as man. And everywhere the testimonies teach that he says “my God” in the person of a man: “O God, my God, look upon me; why have you forsaken me?” And elsewhere: “From my mother’s womb you are my God.” Above, he suffers as man; below, it is as man that he is cast forth from his mother’s womb. So when he says, “From my mother’s womb you are my God,” he signifies that he who was always Father is his God from the time when he was cast forth from his mother’s womb. Since, then, we have read of the generation of Christ in the Gospel, in the Apostle, in the prophets, how do they dare to say that he was created or made? And indeed they ought to consider in what respect they have read that he was created, in what respect made. For it is taught that the Son of God was begotten of God, born of God; but in what respect I read that he was made, let them carefully observe; for God was not made, but God the Son of God was born; afterwards, however, according to the flesh, he was made man from Mary. If they do not believe me, let them believe the Apostle, who says: “But when the fullness of time had come, God sent his Son, made from a woman, made under the Law.” “His Son,” he says: not one of many, not common, but his own. When he says “his own,” he marked the property of eternal generation. He asserted that this Son was afterwards made from a woman, so that his being made might be ascribed not to the divinity but to the assumption of a body: made from a woman by taking on flesh; made under the Law by the observance of the Law. But that heavenly generation was before the Law; this one after the Law.

Mark 16:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:21 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 3:17 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 104:24 (103:24 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 110:3 (109:3 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Col 1:15 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:14 (allusion, medium confidence) · Isa 53:8 (quotation, high confidence) · John 20:17 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:30 (allusion, medium confidence) · Ps 22:1 (21:2 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:10 (21:11 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 4:4 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Ambrose argues that Christ is not a creature: he is the Creator to whom the Gospel to every creature is entrusted, the begotten and only-begotten Son, and “made” only according to the flesh born of Mary.

  • The digital text begins this chapter with the end of Migne’s chapter summary and his note of another chapter division, removed by logged corrections; a reference to the Council of Chalcedon printed by Migne at the end is also removed. Quotations: Mark 16:15; Rom 8:20; Rom 8:22; Rom 8:21; 2 Cor 3:17; John 1:3; Ps 104:24 (LXX 103:24); Ps 110:3 (LXX 109:3); Col 1:15; John 1:14; Isa 53:8; John 20:17; Ps 22:1 (LXX 21:2); Ps 22:10 (LXX 21:11); Gal 4:4. “Such great testimonies”: the Latin is damaged here (ac tatibus); translated by sense.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal reference; OCR slip; OCR slip and column number; OCR slips and inline footnote letter; end of Migne's chapter summary and his note of another chapter division; inline footnote letter and OCR slips; inline footnote letter or column number of the digitization): non jusserit sibi prædicari Evangelium, quod crea­ tura vanitati subdita sit, quod omnia creaverit, quod legalur genitus, quod tandem tradita fuerit genera­ tionis et adoptionis differentia: ubi utraque natura in ipso declaratur. Quæ tot ac tanta testimonia Apo­ stolici expositione confirmantur. [Alias cap. VI.] → ; ut arbilror → ut arbitror; probemus creatoram → probemus creaturam; Qui uui­ versam → Qui universam; £t ideo → Et ideo; NaM si → Nam si; sed crea­ lor, qui docendæ creaturæ diseipulis suis mandai of­ ficium → sed creator, qui docendæ creaturæ discipulis suis mandat officium; subjecta esi, sicut → subjecta est, sicut; subjectos est vanitati? Rur­ sus juita → subjectus est vanitati? Rursus juxta; inter ereataram a et Dominum esse dislan­ tiam; quia servitis creMura est → inter creaturam et Dominum esse distantiam; quia servitii creatura est; ut eam qui crea­ vit omnia, qui rech omoia → ut eum qui creavit omnia, qui regit omnia; NUm­ quid → Numquid; numquid tps8 se fecit? 462 Si → numquid ipse se fecit? Si; b quia in se ipsa est facta sapieatia (Psal. cIt, 24)? → quia in se ipsa est facta sapientia (Psal. ciii, 24)?; Legimus geniium → Legimus genitum; Ego es utero → Ego ex utero; geMui te → genui te; primogenitum: Filium, legimus uni­ genilum? primogenitum → primogenitum Filium, legimus unigenitum: primogenitum; quia Berno post → quia nemo post; (Esai. LIII, 8? Generationem → (Esai. LIII, 8)? Generationem; Ascendo ad. Patrem → Ascendo ad Patrem; Ascendo ad Pafremmeum → Ascendo ad Patrem meum; Deum veslrum; qum licet → Deum vestrum; quia licet; diviaitatis → divinitatis; utFilius → ut Filius; et iufra → et infra; Deus me..., es tu; significat cum qui → Deus meus es tu; significat eum qui; ilcgerimus → legerimus; Edoctum est euim → Edoctum est enim; Dei Filius palus est → Dei Filius natus est; car­ nen homo → carnem homo; FiLium, inquit, suum, non UDum → Filium, inquit, suum, non unum; factura uon di­ vinitati, sed assumptioni corioris ascriberetur: fu­ clum → factura non divinitati, sed assumptioni corporis ascriberetur: factum; generatio au:em ila coelestis anto Legem → generatio autem illa coelestis ante Legem; (Conc. Chal­ cedon. act. I, in exposit. fid. Nic.) → ; factum? c → factum?.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Fid. 1.14 (PL 16:547d–549c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ambrose-fide/1-10/#p-1-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.15PL 16:549c–551c

Unde et illud vane jactare consuerunt quod scriptum est: Et Dominum eum et Christum fecit Deus. Imperiti legant totum, et in­ telligant; sic enim scriptum est: Et Dominum eum fecit, et Christum fecit Deus hunc Jesum, quem vos crucifixistis. Non divinitas crucifixa, sed caro est. Hoc utique fieri potuit, quod potuit cruci­ figi. Non ergo factura Dei Filius. Facessat igitur et illud, de quo calumniari solent, et discant quemadmodum dictum sit: Dominus creavit me. ( Prov. VIII, 22 ). Non dixit: Pater creavit, sed Dominus creavit me. Caro Dominum agnoscit, gloria Patrem significat: creatura nostra Dominum confitetur, charitas Patrem novit. Itaque quis ignoret quia ob causam incorporationis hoc di­ citur? In eo igitur se creatum dicit, in quo et homi­ nem testificatur dicens: Quid me quæritis occidere hominem, qui veritatem locutus sum vobis? Hominem dicit, in quo et crucifixus et mor­ tuus, et sepultus est. Nec dubitandum quod præteritum posuit, quod erat futurum: haec enim consuetudo est prophetiæ, ut quæ futura sunt, vel quasi praesentia, vel quasi facta dicantur. Denique in psalmo xxi legisti: Tauri pingues obsederunt me; legisti etiam: Diviserunt sibi vestimenta mea (lbid., 19): quod evangelista de tempore passionis prophetatum esse significat; Deo enim quae sunt futura, praesentia sunt: et ei cui praecognita sunt omnia, ventura pro factis sunt, sicut scriptum est: Qui fecit quæ ventura sunt (Esai. XLV ). Nec mirum si ante saecula fundatum se esse dicit, cum legeris praedestinatum ante tempora sæcu­ laria. Quam vere de incarnatione id videatur expres­ sum, declarant sequentia: Sapientia, inquit, ædi­ ficavit sibi domum, et subdidit columnas septem, et interfecit suas hostias: miscuit in cratera vinum suum, et paravit suam mensam; et misit suos servos, convo­ cans cum altissima prædicatione, dicens: Qui est insipiens declinet ad me (Prov. ix, i et seq.). Nonne in Evangelio post incarnationem hæc omnia vide­ mus esse completa, quod sacri convivii celebravit mysteria, quod apostolos misit, voce magna clama­ vit dicens: Si quis sitit, veniat ad me, et bibat? Ergo sequentia respondent prioribus, et totius cursum incarnationis videmus prophetiae ex­ positione digestum. Multa alia documenta praesto esse possent hu­ jusmodi de incarnatione dicta videri: sed non me involvo libris, ne tractatus videatur esse diffusior.

Hence they are also accustomed to boast idly of what is written: “And God made him both Lord and Christ.” Let the unlearned read the whole and understand; for thus it is written: “And God made him Lord, and made him Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.” It was not the divinity that was crucified but the flesh. That, certainly, could be made which could be crucified. The Son of God, then, is not a thing made. Let that text also be dismissed on which they are accustomed to build their false charge, and let them learn in what sense it was said: “The Lord created me.” He did not say, “The Father created,” but, “The Lord created me.” The flesh acknowledges a Lord; glory signifies a Father; our created nature confesses a Lord; love knows a Father. Who, then, does not know that this is said on account of the incarnation? He says, then, that he was created in that respect in which he also testifies that he is a man, saying: “Why do you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth?” He says “man” in that respect in which he was crucified, died, and was buried. Nor should one doubt that he put in the past tense what was still to come; for this is the custom of prophecy, that things to come are spoken of as present or as done. For instance, you have read in the twenty-first Psalm: “Fat bulls besieged me”; you have also read: “They divided my garments among them,” which the evangelist shows was prophesied of the time of the passion; for to God things to come are present, and to him to whom all things are foreknown, things to come are as things done, as it is written: “Who has made the things that are to come.” Nor is it surprising if he says that he was established before the ages, since you have read that he was predestined before eternal times. How truly this appears to be said of the incarnation, what follows makes plain: “Wisdom,” it says, “has built herself a house and set up seven pillars, and has slain her victims; she has mixed her wine in the bowl and prepared her table; and she has sent out her servants, calling with the loftiest proclamation and saying: Whoever is foolish, let him turn aside to me.” Do we not see in the Gospel, after the incarnation, all these things fulfilled: that he celebrated the mysteries of the sacred banquet, that he sent out the apostles, that he cried with a loud voice, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to me and drink”? So what follows corresponds to what goes before, and we see the whole course of the incarnation laid out in the exposition of the prophecy. Many other proofs could be at hand that sayings of this kind are spoken of the incarnation; but I do not entangle myself in books, lest the treatise seem too long.

Acts 2:36 (quotation, high confidence) · Prov 8:22 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:40 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:12 (21:13 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:18 (21:19 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · John 19:24 (allusion, high confidence) · Isa 45:11 (quotation, medium confidence) · Prov 8:23 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Pet 1:20 (echo, medium confidence) · Prov 9:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Prov 9:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Prov 9:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Prov 9:4 (quotation, high confidence) · John 7:37 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Ambrose explains Acts 2:36 and Prov 8:22 (“The Lord created me”) as said of Christ’s humanity, prophesied as though already done, and reads Wisdom’s banquet in Prov 9 as fulfilled in the Gospel.

  • The digital text begins this chapter with the end of Migne’s chapter summary and his note of another chapter division, removed by a logged correction. Quotations: Acts 2:36; Prov 8:22 (in the Septuagint form “The Lord created me”); John 8:40; Ps 22:12 and 22:18 (Latin and LXX numbering Ps 21); John 19:24; Isa 45:11 (LXX); Prov 8:23; 1 Pet 1:20 (predestined); Prov 9:1–4; John 7:37. Prov 8:22 was a central text of the Arian controversy.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; end of Migne's chapter summary and his note of another chapter division; inline footnote letter; inline footnote letter and OCR slip; inline footnote letter or column number of the digitization): tum esse ex sacrorum codicum nucloritate planum facit. [Alias cap. VII.] → ; Et d Dominum eum et Christum feeit → Et Dominum eum et Christum fecit; Et Dominumeum fecit, ei Christum → Et Dominum eum fecit, et Christum; a Do­ minus creavit → Dominus creavit; pro­ phetix → prophetiæ; praesen­ lia → praesentia; Qui fecit qum ventura → Qui fecit quæ ventura; confitetur, b → confitetur,; omnia, c → omnia,; dicens: d → dicens:.

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Fid. 1.15 (PL 16:549c–551c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ambrose-fide/1-10/#p-1-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 16 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 10 (de Romestin, 1896); differences checked against the Latin.

1.16PL 16:551c–553b

Nunc ipsos Arianos interrogo, utrum idem putent esse genitum, quod creatum? Si enim idem dicunt, nihil utique distat inter generare et creare. Ergo quoniam et nos creati sumus, inter nos et Christum et elementa nulla distantia est. Sed quam­ vis amentes sint, id tamen non audebunt dicere. Postremo ut insipientiae eorum quod verum non est, indulgeam; si nihil, ut putant, distat in verbo: cur non eum quem colunt, meliore appellant nomine? cur verbo non utuntur Patris? cur abjiciunt quod honorificentiæ est, assumunt quod injuriae? Si autem distat inter creatum et genitum, ut ego arbitror, cum legerimus genitum, non utique idem et genitum intelligimus et creatum. Dicant igi­ tur generatum ex Patre, ex Virgine procreatum: aut dicant quomodo Dei Filius et genitus et creatus. Una natura, et maxime Deus diversitatem non re­ cipit. Certe facessat nostra sententia: Paulum in­ terrogemus, qui Spiritu Dei plenus has praevidens quaestiones; generaliter contra gentes, specialiter contra Arianos locutus, ait divino judicio eos esse damnatos, qui servirent creaturae potius quam Crea­ tori. Denique sic habes: Tradidit illos Deus in desi­ deria cordis ipsorum, ut contumeliis afficiant corpora sua inter semetipsos: qui commutaverunt veritatem Dei in mendacium, et coluerunt, et servierunt creaturae potius quam Creatori, qui est Deus benedictus in sæ­ cula ( Rom. i, 24, 25). Prohibet itaque me Paulus creaturae servire, et Christo admonet serviendum. Non ergo creatura Christus. Paulus, inquit, servus Jesu Christi. Et bonus servus qui Dominum recognoscit, ipse creaturae servire nos prohibet: quemadmodum ergo Christo ipse serviret, si creaturam Christum puta­ ret? Aut igitur desinant colere quem creaturam appellant, aut desinant quem colere se simulant, di­ cere creaturam; ne sub appellatione cultorum sacri­ legia graviora committant. Detestabilior enim dome­ sticus hostis quam extraneus: et gravius scelus ut adversus Christum abutantur Christi nomine. Quem igitur meliorem interpretem quaerimus Scripturarum, quam illum doctorem gentium, vas electionis, electum de persecutoribus! Qui Jesum persecutus fuerat, fatetur. Legerat utique Salomonem plus quam Arius, et erat peritus in Lege; et ideo quia legerat, non creatum Christum dicit esse, sed genitum. Legerat enim: Ipse dixit, et facta sunt: ipse mandavit, et creata sunt. Numquid dicto factus est Christus? numquid mandato creatus est Christus? Quomodo autem creatura in Deo esse po­ test? Etenim Deus naturae simplicis est, non conjunctae atque compositæ: cui nihil accedat, sed solum quod divinum est in natura habeat sua: complens omnia, nusquam ipse confusus: penetrans omnia, nusquam ipse penetrandus: ubique totus, eodemque tempore vel in coelo, vel in terris, vel in novissimo maris praesens: visu incomprehensi­ bilis, fatu ininterpretabilis, sensu inæstimabilis, fide sequendus, religione venerandus; ut quidquid reli­ giosus sentiri potest, quidquid praestantius ad deco­ rem, quidquid sublimius ad potestatem, hoc Deo in­ telligas convenire. Ergo quia in Filio complacet Pater ( Matth. XVII, 5), crede quia dignus Patre Filius, crede quia a Deo exivit Filius, ut ipse testatur dicens: Ex Deo processi, et veni; et alibi: A Deo exivi ( Joan. xvi, 27). Qui ex Deo processit, et a Deo exivit, nihil aliud potest habere, nisi quod Dei est.

Now I ask the Arians themselves whether they think that “begotten” is the same as “created.” For if they say it is the same, there is certainly no difference between begetting and creating. Then, since we too were created, there is no difference between us, Christ, and the elements. But however mad they are, they will not dare to say this. Finally, to indulge their folly in what is not true: if, as they think, there is no difference in the word, why do they not call him whom they worship by the better name? Why do they not use the Father’s word? Why do they reject what conveys honor and take up what conveys insult? But if there is a difference between created and begotten, as I think there is, then when we read “begotten” we certainly do not understand begotten and created to be the same. Let them say, then, that he was begotten of the Father and brought forth of the Virgin; or let them say how the Son of God is both begotten and created. One nature, and above all God, does not admit of diversity. But let our own opinion be set aside: let us question Paul, who, full of the Spirit of God and foreseeing these questions, speaking generally against the pagans and specially against the Arians, says that by divine judgment those are condemned who serve the creature rather than the Creator. For you have it thus: “God gave them up to the desires of their hearts, so that they dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is God blessed for ever.” So Paul forbids me to serve the creature, and admonishes me that Christ is to be served. Christ, then, is not a creature. “Paul,” he says, “a servant of Jesus Christ.” And this good servant, who acknowledges his Lord, himself forbids us to serve the creature: how, then, would he himself serve Christ if he thought Christ a creature? Either, then, let them stop worshiping him whom they call a creature, or let them stop calling a creature him whom they pretend to worship, lest under the name of worshipers they commit graver sacrileges. For an enemy in the household is more detestable than one from outside, and it is a heavier crime to abuse the name of Christ against Christ. What better interpreter of the Scriptures, then, do we seek than that teacher of the nations, the chosen vessel, chosen from among the persecutors? He who had persecuted Jesus confesses him. He had certainly read Solomon more than Arius had, and he was learned in the Law; and so, because he had read, he says that Christ was not created but begotten. For he had read: “He spoke, and they were made; he commanded, and they were created.” Was Christ made by a word? Was Christ created by a command? And how can there be a creature in God? For God is of a simple nature, not conjoined and composite; nothing is added to him, but he has in his nature only what is divine; he fills all things and is nowhere himself confused; he penetrates all things and is nowhere himself to be penetrated; he is everywhere whole, and at the same moment present in heaven, on earth, and in the farthest part of the sea; incomprehensible to sight, inexpressible in speech, beyond the estimate of sense; to be followed by faith, to be venerated with reverence; so that you may understand that whatever can be thought more reverently, whatever is more excellent in beauty, whatever more sublime in power, this befits God. So, since the Father is well pleased in the Son, believe that the Son is worthy of the Father; believe that the Son came forth from God, as he himself testifies, saying: “I proceeded from God and have come”; and elsewhere: “I came forth from God.” He who proceeded from God and came forth from God can have nothing but what is God’s.

Rom 1:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:25 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 9:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 148:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 17:5 (allusion, high confidence) · John 8:42 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:27 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Ambrose argues that “begotten” and “created” differ, that Paul forbids serving the creature yet calls himself Christ’s servant, and that a creature cannot exist in the simple nature of God.

  • The digital text begins this chapter with Migne’s chapter summary, removed by a logged correction. Quotations: Rom 1:24–25; Rom 1:1; Acts 9:15 (chosen vessel); Ps 148:5 (Ps 33:9); Matt 17:5; John 8:42; John 16:27.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's chapter summary; OCR slip; inline footnote letter and OCR slip; inline footnote letter or column number of the digitization): Hoc Pauli ne creaturæ serviatur, prohibentis; Christi tamen se seruum esse profitentis, testimonio confirmari: cui potius credendum quam Ario. Sub­ ditur etiam creaturam in Deo non esse, cum simplex sit: nec Filium in creaturæ ordinem redigendum; cum in eo Patri complaceat. → ; honorificentiac → honorificentiæ; legcrimus → legerimus; qui eat Deus → qui est Deus; a cui nibil → cui nihil; Legerat 465 → Legerat.

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Fid. 1.16 (PL 16:551c–553b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ambrose-fide/1-10/#p-1-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 16 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 10 (de Romestin, 1896); differences checked against the Latin.