Oration III Against the Arians 64–67
Greek text: Bright (Greek text: William Bright, The Orations of St. Athanasius against the Arians (Oxford: Clarendon, 1884), digitized by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 2, vol. 4 (1892).
Chapter 64
64Bright, 217–218
64. Οὐκοῦν εἰ τὰ ποιήματα ‘βουλήσει καὶ εὐδοκίᾳʼ ὑπέστη, καὶ ἡ κτίσις πᾶσα θελήματι γέγονεν, ὅ τε Παῦλος ‘διὰ θελήματος Θεοῦʼ ἀπόστολος ἐκλήθη, καὶ ἡ κλῆσις ἡμῶν ‘εὐδοκίᾳ καὶ θελήματιʼ γέγονε, ‘πάντα δὲ διὰ τοῦ Λόγου γέγονεν, ʼ ἐκτός ἐστιν οὗτος τῶν βουλήσει γεγονότων, καὶ μᾶλλον αὐτός ἐστιν ἡ ζῶσα βουλὴ τοῦ Πατρὸς, ἐν ᾗ ταῦτα πάντα γέγονεν· ἐν ᾗ καὶ ὁ ἅγιος Δαβὶδ εὐχαριστῶν ἔλεγεν ἐν τῷ ἑβδομηκοστῷ δευτέρῳ ψαλμῷ, ‘Ἐκράτησας τῆς χειρὸς τῆς δεξιᾶς μου, καὶ ἐν τῇ βουλῇ σου ὡδήγησάς με.’ Πῶς οὖν δύναται, βουλὴ καὶ θέλημα τοῦ Πατρὸς ὑπάρχων, ὁ Λόγος γίνεσθαι καὶ αὐτὸς ‘θελήματι καὶ βουλήσει, ʼ ὡς ἕκαστος, εἰ μὴ, καθὰ προεῖπον, μανέντες πάλιν εἴπωσιν αὐτὸν διʼ ἑαυτοῦ γεγονέναι, ἢ διʼ ἑτέρου τινός; Τίς οὖν ἐστι, διʼ οὗ γέγονε; πλασάσθωσαν ἕτερον Λόγον, καὶ τὰ Οὐαλεντίνου ζηλώσαντες, ‘Χριστὸνʼ ἕτερον ὀνομασάτωσαν· οὐ γὰρ γέγραπται. Ἀλλὰ κἂν πλάσωνται, πάντως κἀκεῖνος διά τινος γίνεται· καὶ λοιπὸν οὕτως ἐπιλογιζομένων ἡμῶν, καὶ ἀνακρινόντων τὴν ἀκολουθίαν, εὑρίσκεται τῶν ἀθέων ἡ πολυκέφαλος αἵρεσις εἰς πολυθεότητα πίπτουσα καὶ ἄμετρον μανίαν, ἐν ᾗ ‘κτίσμαʼ καὶ ‘ἐξ οὐκ ὄντωνʼ θέλοντες εἶναι τὸν Υἱὸν, ἑτέρως τὰ αὐτὰ σημαίνουσι, ‘βούλησιν καὶ θέλησινʼ προβαλλόμενοι, ἃ μάλιστα ἐπὶ τῶν γενητῶν καὶ κτιστῶν ταῦτα εὐλόγως ἂν λέγοιτο. Πῶς οὖν οὐκ ἀσεβὲς τὰ τῶν γενητῶν ἐπὶ τὸν Δημιουργὸν ἀναφέρειν; ἢ πῶς οὐ βλάσφημον λέγειν βούλησιν πρὸ τοῦ Λόγου εἶναι ἐν τῷ Πατρί; εἰ γὰρ προηγεῖται βούλησις ἐν τῷ Πατρὶ, οὐκ ἀληθεύει λέγων ὁ Υἱὸς, ‘ἐγὼ ἐν τῷ Πατρί·’ ἢ εἰ καὶ αὐτὸς ἐν τῷ Πατρί ἐστιν, ἀλλὰ δεύτερος λογισθήσεται, καὶ οὐκ ἔπρεπε λέγειν αὐτὸν, ‘ἐγὼ ἐν τῷ Πατρὶ, ’ οὔσης βουλήσεως πρὸ αὐτοῦ, ἐν ᾗ τὰ πάντα γέγονε καὶ αὐτὸς ὑπέστη καθʼ ὑμᾶς· κἂν γὰρ τῇ δόξῃ διαφέρῃ, ἀλλʼ οὐδὲν ἧττον εἷς ἐστι τῶν ἐκ βουλήσεως γινομένων. Ὡς δὲ ἐν τοῖς ἔμπροσθεν εἰρήκαμεν, εἰ οὕτως ἐστὶ, πῶς ὁ μὲν Κύριος, τὰ δὲ δοῦλα; πάντων δὲ Κύριος τυγχάνει οὗτος, ὅτι τῇ τοῦ Πατρὸς κυριότητι ἥνωται· καὶ πάντως ἡ κτίσις δούλη, ἐπεὶ ἐκτὸς τῆς τοῦ Πατρὸς ἑνότητός ἐστι, καὶ, οὐκ οὖσά ποτε, γέγονεν.
64. Oukoun ei ta poiēmata ‘boulēsei kai eudokiąʼ hypestē, kai hē ktisis pasa thelēmati gegonen, ho te Paulos ‘dia thelēmatos Theouʼ apostolos eklēthē, kai hē klēsis hēmōn ‘eudokią kai thelēmatiʼ gegone, ‘panta de dia tou Logou gegonen, ʼ ektos estin houtos tōn boulēsei gegonotōn, kai mallon autos estin hē zōsa boulē tou Patros, en hę̄ tauta panta gegonen; en hę̄ kai ho hagios Dabid eucharistōn elegen en tǭ hebdomēkostǭ deuterǭ psalmǭ, ‘Ekratēsas tēs cheiros tēs dexias mou, kai en tę̄ boulę̄ sou hōdēgēsas me.’ Pōs oun dynatai, boulē kai thelēma tou Patros hyparchōn, ho Logos ginesthai kai autos ‘thelēmati kai boulēsei, ʼ hōs hekastos, ei mē, katha proeipon, manentes palin eipōsin auton diʼ heautou gegonenai, ē diʼ heterou tinos? Tis oun esti, diʼ hou gegone? plasasthōsan heteron Logon, kai ta Oualentinou zēlōsantes, ‘Christonʼ heteron onomasatōsan; ou gar gegraptai. Alla kan plasōntai, pantōs kakeinos dia tinos ginetai; kai loipon houtōs epilogizomenōn hēmōn, kai anakrinontōn tēn akolouthian, heurisketai tōn atheōn hē polykephalos hairesis eis polytheotēta piptousa kai ametron manian, en hę̄ ‘ktismaʼ kai ‘ex ouk ontōnʼ thelontes einai ton Huion, heterōs ta auta sēmainousi, ‘boulēsin kai thelēsinʼ proballomenoi, ha malista epi tōn genētōn kai ktistōn tauta eulogōs an legoito. Pōs oun ouk asebes ta tōn genētōn epi ton Dēmiourgon anapherein? ē pōs ou blasphēmon legein boulēsin pro tou Logou einai en tǭ Patri? ei gar proēgeitai boulēsis en tǭ Patri, ouk alētheuei legōn ho Huios, ‘egō en tǭ Patri;’ ē ei kai autos en tǭ Patri estin, alla deuteros logisthēsetai, kai ouk eprepe legein auton, ‘egō en tǭ Patri, ’ ousēs boulēseōs pro autou, en hę̄ ta panta gegone kai autos hypestē kathʼ hymas; kan gar tę̄ doxę̄ diapherę̄, allʼ ouden hētton heis esti tōn ek boulēseōs ginomenōn. Hōs de en tois emprosthen eirēkamen, ei houtōs esti, pōs ho men Kyrios, ta de doula? pantōn de Kyrios tynchanei houtos, hoti tę̄ tou Patros kyriotēti hēnōtai; kai pantōs hē ktisis doulē, epei ektos tēs tou Patros henotētos esti, kai, ouk ousa pote, gegonen.
If, then, things made came to subsist “by will and good pleasure,” and all creation came into being by will, and Paul was called an apostle “through the will of God,” and our calling came about “by good pleasure and will,” and “all things came into being through the Word,” then he is outside the things that came into being by will, and is rather himself the living counsel of the Father, in which all these things came into being; the counsel in which holy David too, giving thanks, said in the seventy-second psalm, “You held my right hand, and in your counsel you guided me.” How, then, can the Word, being counsel and will of the Father, himself come into being “by will and counsel,” like each thing, unless, as I said before, in their madness they say again that he came into being through himself or through some other? Who, then, is it through whom he came into being? Let them fashion another Word, and, emulating the teachings of Valentinus, let them name another “Christ”; for it is not written. But even if they fashion one, that one too certainly comes into being through someone; and so, as we reason further and examine the consequences, the many-headed heresy of the godless is found falling into polytheism and measureless madness, in which, wishing the Son to be “a creature” and “from nothing,” they signify the same things in another way, putting forward “counsel and will,” which could reasonably be said above all of originated and created things. How, then, is it not impious to refer the things of originated beings to the Creator? Or how is it not blasphemous to say that there is a will in the Father before the Word? For if will precedes in the Father, the Son does not speak the truth in saying, “I am in the Father”; or if he too is in the Father, he will be reckoned second, and it would not have been fitting for him to say, “I am in the Father,” since there would be a will before him, in which all things came into being and he himself came to subsist, on your view; for even if he differs in glory, he is none the less one of those that come into being by will. And, as we said before, if it is so, how is he Lord and the others servants? But he is Lord of all because he is united to the Father's lordship; and creation is surely servant, since it is outside the Father's unity and, once not being, came to be.
Eph 1:5 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 73:23 (72:23 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 73:24 (72:24 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:10 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Creatures come by God's will, but the Word is that will and counsel itself; a will preceding him would make him second and a servant, not Lord united with the Father.
- Psalm number is Septuagint (72 = Ps 73).
- The text reads ἧ; corrected to ᾗ.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Accent and iota slip.): ἐν ἧ τὰ πάντα → ἐν ᾗ τὰ πάντα.
Cite (SBL): Athanasius, C. Ar. 64 (Bright, 217–218; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/athanasius-oratio-3/64/#p-64). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Bright (1884); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with NPNF² 4.
Chapter 65
65Bright, 218–219
65. Ἔδει δὲ αὐτοὺς, λέγοντας ‘βουλήσειʼ τὸν Υἱὸν, εἰπεῖν, ὅτι καὶ ‘φρονήσειʼ γέγονε· ταὐτὸν γὰρ ἡγοῦμαι φρόνησιν καὶ βούλησιν εἶναι· ὃ γὰρ βουλεύεταί τις, τοῦτο πάντως καὶ φρονεῖ· καὶ ὃ φρονεῖ, τοῦτο καὶ βουλεύεται. Αὐτὸς γοῦν ὁ Σωτὴρ ὡς ἀδελφὰ ταῦτα τῇ ἀναλογίᾳ συνῆψεν ἅμα λέγων, ‘ἐμὴ βουλὴ καὶ ἀσφάλεια, ἐμὴ φρόνησις, ἐμὴ δὲ ἰσχύς.’ Ὡς γὰρ ἰσχὺς καὶ ἀσφάλεια ταὐτόν ἐστιν (ἡ αὐτὴ γὰρ δύναμίς ἐστιν), οὕτω ταὐτόν ἐστιν εἰπεῖν τὴν φρόνησιν καὶ τὴν βουλὴν εἶναι, ἅπερ ἐστὶν ὁ Κύριος. Ἀλλʼ οἱ ἀσεβεῖς οὐ θέλουσι μὲν λόγον καὶ βουλὴν ζῶσαν εἶναι τὸν Υἱόν· περὶ δὲ τὸν Θεὸν φρόνησιν καὶ βουλὴν καὶ σοφίαν ὡς ἕξιν συμβαίνουσαν καὶ ἀποσυμβαίνουσαν ἀνθρωπίνως γίνεσθαι μυθολογοῦσι, καὶ πάντα κινοῦσι, καὶ τὴν Οὐαλεντίνου ‘ἔννοιαν καὶ θέλησινʼ προβάλλονται, ἵνα μόνον διαστήσωσι τὸν Υἱὸν ἀπὸ τοῦ Πατρὸς, καὶ μὴ εἴπωσιν ἴδιον αὐτὸν τοῦ Πατρὸς εἶναι Λόγον, ἀλλὰ κτίσμα. Ἐκεῖνοι μὲν οὖν ἀκουέτωσαν, ὡς Σίμων ὁ μάγος ἤκουσεν, Ἡ ἀσέβεια Οὐαλεντίνου ‘σὺν ὑμῖν εἴη εἰς ἀπώλειαν·’ ἕκαστος δὲ Σολομῶνι μᾶλλον πειθέσθω λέγοντι αὐτὸν εἶναι σοφίαν καὶ φρόνησιν τὸν Λόγον· φησὶ γάρ· ‘Ὁ Θεὸς τῇ σοφίᾳ ἐθεμελίωσε τὴν γῆν, ἡτοίμασε δὲ οὐρανοὺς ἐν φρονήσει·’ ὡς δὲ ὧδε ‘ἐν φρονήσει, οὕτως ἐν Ψαλμοῖς, ‘τῷ Λόγῳ Κυρίου οἱ οὐρανοὶ ἐστερεώθησαν. Ὡς δὲ τῷ Λόγῳ οἱ οὐρανοὶ, οὕτω ‘πάντα, ὅσα ἠθέλησεν, ἐποίησε·’ καὶ ὡς ὁ ἀπόστολος γράφει Θεσσαλονικεῦσι, ‘τὸ θέλημα τοῦ Θεοῦ ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ ἐστιν·’ ὁ ἄρα τοῦ Θεοῦ Υἱὸς αὐτός ἐστιν ὁ Λόγος καὶ ἡ Σοφία, αὐτὸς ἡ φρόνησις καὶ ἡ ζῶσα βουλή· καὶ ἐν αὐτῷ τὸ θέλημα τοῦ Πατρός ἐστιν· αὐτὸς ἀλήθεια, καὶ φῶς, καὶ δύναμις τοῦ Πατρός ἐστιν. Εἰ δὲ ἡ βούλησις τοῦ Θεοῦ ἡ Σοφία ἐστὶ καὶ ἡ φρόνησις, ὁ δὲ Υἱός ἐστιν ἡ Σοφία, ὁ ἄρα λέγων ‘βουλήσειʼ τὸν Υἱὸν ἴσον λέγει τῷ τὴν Σοφίαν ‘ἐν Σοφίᾳʼ γεγονέναι, καὶ τὸν Υἱὸν ‘ἐν Υἱῷʼ πεποιῆσθαι, καὶ ‘διὰ τοῦ Λόγουʼ τὸν Λόγον ἐκτίσθαι. Τοῦτο δὲ καὶ τῷ Θεῷ μάχεται, καὶ ταῖς παρʼ αὐτοῦ γραφαῖς ἐναντιοῦται· καὶ γὰρ καὶ ὁ ἀπόστολος οὐ βουλήσεως, ἀλλὰ αὐτῆς τῆς πατρικῆς οὐσίας ἴδιον ‘ἀπαύγασμα καὶ χαρακτῆραʼ τὸν Υἱὸν κηρύττει, λέγων, ‘ὃς ὢν ἀπαύγασμα τῆς δόξης καὶ χαρακτὴρ τῆς ὑποστάσεως αὐτοῦ.’ Εἰ δὲ, ὡς προειρήκαμεν, ἐκ βουλήσεως οὐκ ἔστιν ἡ πατρικὴ οὐσία καὶ ὑπόστασις, εὔδηλον ὡς οὔτε τὸ ἴδιον τῆς πατρικῆς ὑποστάσεως ἐκ βουλήσεως ἂν εἴη· ὁποία γὰρ ᾖ καὶ ὡς ἐὰν ᾖ ἡ μακαρία ἐκείνη ὑπόστασις, τοιοῦτον καὶ οὕτως εἶναι καὶ τὸ ἴδιον ἐξ αὐτῆς γέννημα δεῖ. Καὶ αὐτὸς γοῦν ὁ Πατὴρ οὐκ εἶπεν, ‘Οὗτός ἐστιν ὁ βουλήσει μου γεγονὼς Υἱὸς, ʼ οὐδὲ, ‘ὃν κατʼ εὐδοκίαν ἔσχον Υἱόν·’ ἀλλʼ ἁπλῶς, ‘ὁ Υἱός μου, ʼ καὶ μᾶλλον, ‘ἐν ᾧ ηὐδόκησα·’ δεικνὺς ἐκ τούτων ὅτι ‘φύσει μὲν οὗτός ἐστιν Υἱὸς, ἐν αὐτῷ δὲ τῶν ἐμοὶ δοκούντων ἡ βούλησις ἀπόκειται.’
65. Edei de autous, legontas ‘boulēseiʼ ton Huion, eipein, hoti kai ‘phronēseiʼ gegone; tauton gar hēgoumai phronēsin kai boulēsin einai; ho gar bouleuetai tis, touto pantōs kai phronei; kai ho phronei, touto kai bouleuetai. Autos goun ho Sōtēr hōs adelpha tauta tę̄ analogią synēpsen hama legōn, ‘emē boulē kai asphaleia, emē phronēsis, emē de ischys.’ Hōs gar ischys kai asphaleia tauton estin (hē autē gar dynamis estin), houtō tauton estin eipein tēn phronēsin kai tēn boulēn einai, haper estin ho Kyrios. Allʼ hoi asebeis ou thelousi men logon kai boulēn zōsan einai ton Huion; peri de ton Theon phronēsin kai boulēn kai sophian hōs hexin symbainousan kai aposymbainousan anthrōpinōs ginesthai mythologousi, kai panta kinousi, kai tēn Oualentinou ‘ennoian kai thelēsinʼ proballontai, hina monon diastēsōsi ton Huion apo tou Patros, kai mē eipōsin idion auton tou Patros einai Logon, alla ktisma. Ekeinoi men oun akouetōsan, hōs Simōn ho magos ēkousen, Hē asebeia Oualentinou ‘syn hymin eiē eis apōleian;’ hekastos de Solomōni mallon peithesthō legonti auton einai sophian kai phronēsin ton Logon; phēsi gar; ‘Ho Theos tę̄ sophią ethemeliōse tēn gēn, hētoimase de ouranous en phronēsei;’ hōs de hōde ‘en phronēsei, houtōs en Psalmois, ‘tǭ Logǭ Kyriou hoi ouranoi estereōthēsan. Hōs de tǭ Logǭ hoi ouranoi, houtō ‘panta, hosa ēthelēsen, epoiēse;’ kai hōs ho apostolos graphei Thessalonikeusi, ‘to thelēma tou Theou en Christǭ Iēsou estin;’ ho ara tou Theou Huios autos estin ho Logos kai hē Sophia, autos hē phronēsis kai hē zōsa boulē; kai en autǭ to thelēma tou Patros estin; autos alētheia, kai phōs, kai dynamis tou Patros estin. Ei de hē boulēsis tou Theou hē Sophia esti kai hē phronēsis, ho de Huios estin hē Sophia, ho ara legōn ‘boulēseiʼ ton Huion ison legei tǭ tēn Sophian ‘en Sophiąʼ gegonenai, kai ton Huion ‘en Huiǭʼ pepoiēsthai, kai ‘dia tou Logouʼ ton Logon ektisthai. Touto de kai tǭ Theǭ machetai, kai tais parʼ autou graphais enantioutai; kai gar kai ho apostolos ou boulēseōs, alla autēs tēs patrikēs ousias idion ‘apaugasma kai charaktēraʼ ton Huion kēryttei, legōn, ‘hos ōn apaugasma tēs doxēs kai charaktēr tēs hypostaseōs autou.’ Ei de, hōs proeirēkamen, ek boulēseōs ouk estin hē patrikē ousia kai hypostasis, eudēlon hōs oute to idion tēs patrikēs hypostaseōs ek boulēseōs an eiē; hopoia gar ę̄ kai hōs ean ę̄ hē makaria ekeinē hypostasis, toiouton kai houtōs einai kai to idion ex autēs gennēma dei. Kai autos goun ho Patēr ouk eipen, ‘Houtos estin ho boulēsei mou gegonōs Huios, ʼ oude, ‘hon katʼ eudokian eschon Huion;’ allʼ haplōs, ‘ho Huios mou, ʼ kai mallon, ‘en hǭ ēudokēsa;’ deiknys ek toutōn hoti ‘physei men houtos estin Huios, en autǭ de tōn emoi dokountōn hē boulēsis apokeitai.’
When they say that the Son is “by will,” they ought also to have said that he came into being “by understanding”; for I consider understanding and will to be the same; for what one deliberates, this he surely also understands, and what he understands, this he also deliberates. The Saviour himself, at any rate, joined these together as sisters by analogy, saying at once, “Mine are counsel and security, mine is understanding, and mine is strength.” For as strength and security are the same (for it is the same power), so it is the same to say understanding and counsel, which the Lord is. But the impious do not want the Son to be Word and living counsel; instead they tell the fable that understanding, counsel, and wisdom arise in God as a habit that comes and goes, in human fashion; and they move everything and put forward Valentinus's “Thought and Will,” only so as to separate the Son from the Father and not call him the Father's own Word, but a creature. Let them, then, hear what Simon the sorcerer heard: “The impiety of Valentinus perish with you”; but let each rather be persuaded by Solomon, who says that the Word himself is wisdom and understanding; for he says, “God by wisdom founded the earth, and prepared the heavens by understanding”; and as here it says “by understanding,” so in the Psalms, “By the Word of the Lord the heavens were established.” And as the heavens were established by the Word, so “he did whatever he willed”; and as the apostle writes to the Thessalonians, “the will of God is in Christ Jesus.” So the Son of God is himself the Word and the Wisdom, himself the understanding and the living counsel; and in him is the will of the Father; he is the truth and light and power of the Father. And if the will of God is the Wisdom and understanding, and the Son is the Wisdom, then he who says that the Son is “by will” is in effect saying that Wisdom came into being “in wisdom,” and the Son was made “in a Son,” and the Word created “through the Word.” This fights against God and contradicts the Scriptures that come from him; for the apostle too proclaims the Son to be the proper “radiance and impress” not of a will, but of the Father's very substance, saying, “who, being the radiance of glory and the impress of his subsistence.” And if, as we said before, the Father's substance and subsistence are not from will, it is very clear that neither would what is proper to the Father's subsistence be from will; for of whatever kind and however that blessed subsistence is, of such a kind and in such a way must its proper offspring from it be. The Father himself, at any rate, did not say, “This is the Son who came into being by my will,” nor “the Son whom I have by good pleasure,” but simply, “my Son,” and rather, “in whom I am well pleased,” showing by these words that “he is Son by nature, and in him is laid up the will of what pleases me.”
Prov 8:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 8:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Prov 3:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 33:6 (32:6 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 115:3 (113:11 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Thess 5:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 3:17 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: The Son is himself God's wisdom, understanding, and living counsel, in whom God's will lies; to say he came “by will” is to say Wisdom came to be in wisdom; the Father calls him simply “my Son.”
- “Perish with you” adapts Peter's words to Simon the sorcerer (Acts 8:20).
- “Subsistence” (ὑπόστασις) is used here, with Heb 1:3, as equivalent to the Father's substance.
- The words attributed to the Father at the end are Athanasius's paraphrase.
Cite (SBL): Athanasius, C. Ar. 65 (Bright, 218–219; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/athanasius-oratio-3/64/#p-65). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 66
66Bright, 219–220
66. Ἆῤ οὖν ἐπεὶ φύσει καὶ μὴ ἐκ βουλήσεώς ἐστιν ὁ Υἱὸς, ἤδη καὶ ἀθέλητός ἐστι τῷ Πατρὶ, καὶ ‘μὴ βουλομένουʼ τοῦ Πατρός ἐστιν ὁ Υἱός; οὐμενοῦν· ἀλλὰ καὶ θελόμενός ἐστιν ὁ Υἱὸς παρὰ τοῦ Πατρὸς, καὶ, ὡς αὐτός φησιν, ‘ὁ Πατὴρ φιλεῖ τὸν Υἱὸν, καὶ πάντα δείκνυσιν αὐτῷ. Ὡς γὰρ τὸ εἶναι ἀγαθὸς οὐκ ἐκ βουλήσεως μὲν ἤρξατο, οὐ μὴν ἀβουλήτως καὶ ἀθελήτως ἐστὶν ἀγαθὸς (ὃ γάρ ἐστι, τοῦτο καὶ θελητόν ἐστιν αὐτῷ), οὕτω καὶ τὸ εἶναι τὸν Υἱὸν, εἰ καὶ μὴ ἐκ βουλήσεως ἤρξατο, ἀλλʼ οὐκ ἀθέλητον, οὐδὲ παρὰ γνώμην ἐστὶν αὐτῷ. Ὥσπερ γὰρ τῆς ἰδίας ὑποστάσεώς ἐστι θελητὴς, οὕτως καὶ ὁ Υἱὸς, ἴδιος ὢν αὐτοῦ τῆς οὐσίας, οὐκ ἀθέλητός ἐστιν αὐτῷ, Θελέσθω καὶ φιλείσθω τοίνυν ὁ Υἱὸς παρὰ τοῦ Πατρός· καὶ οὕτω τὸ ‘θέλεινʼ καὶ τὸ ‘μὴ ἀβούλητονʼ τοῦ Θεοῦ τις εὐσεβῶς λογιζέσθω. Καὶ γὰρ ὁ Υἱὸς τῇ θελήσει ᾗ θέλεται παρὰ τοῦ Πατρὸς, ταύτῃ καὶ αὐτὸς ἀγαπᾶ, καὶ θέλει, καὶ τιμᾷ τὸν Πατέρα· καὶ ἕν ἐστι θέλημα τὸ ἐκ Πατρὸς ἐν Υἱῷ, ὡς καὶ ἐκ τούτου θεωρεῖσθαι τὸν Υἱὸν ἐν τῷ Πατρὶ, καὶ τὸν Πατέρα ἐν τῷ Υἱῷ. Μὴ μέντοι κατὰ Οὐαλεντῖνον προηγουμένην τις ‘βούλησιν ἐπεισαγέτω, μηδὲ μέσον τις ἑαυτὸν ὠθείτω τοῦ μόνου Πατρὸς πρὸς τὸν μόνον Λόγον, προφάσει τοῦ ‘βουλεύεσθαι·’ μαίνοιτο γὰρ ἄν τις, μεταξὺ τιθεὶς Πατρὸς καὶ Υἱοῦ ‘βούλησινʼ καὶ σκέψιν. Καὶ γὰρ ἕτερόν ἐστι λέγειν, ‘βουλήσει γέγονεν·’ ἕτερον δὲ, ὅτι ‘ἴδιον ὄντα φύσει τὸν Υἱὸν αὐτοῦ ἀγαπᾷ καὶ θέλει αὐτόν.’ Τὸ μὲν γὰρ λέγειν, ‘ἐκ βουλήσεως γέγονε, πρῶτον μὲν τὸ μὴ εἶναί ποτε τοῦτον σημαίνει· ἔπειτα δὲ, καὶ τὴν ἐπʼ ἄμφω ῥοπὴν ἔχει, καθάπερ εἴρηται· ὥστε δύνασθαί τινα νοεῖν ὅτι ἠδύνατο καὶ μὴ βούλεσθαι τὸν Υἱόν. Ἐπὶ Υἱοῦ δὲ λέγειν, ‘ἠδύνατο καὶ μὴ εἶναι, ’ δυσσεβές ἐστι καὶ φθάνον εἰς τὴν τοῦ Πατρὸς οὐσίαν τὸ τόλμημα· εἴγε τὸ ἴδιον αὐτῆς ἠδύνατο μὴ εἶναι· ὅμοιον γὰρ ὡς εἰ ἐλέγετο, ‘ἠδύνατο καὶ μὴ εἶναι ἀγαθὸς ὁ Πατήρ.’ Ἀλλʼ ὥσπερ ἀγαθὸς ἀεὶ καὶ τῇ φύσει, οὕτως ἀεὶ γεννητικὸς τῇ φύσει ὁ Πατήρ· τὸ δὲ λέγειν, ‘ὁ Πατὴρ θέλει τὸν Υἱὸν, ʼ καὶ, ‘ὁ Λόγος θέλει τὸν Πατέρα, ʼ οὐ ‘βούλησιν προηγουμένηνʼ δείκνυσιν, ἀλλὰ φύσεως γνησιότητα, καὶ οὐσίας ἰδιότητα καὶ ὁμοίωσιν γνωρίζει. Ὡς γὰρ καὶ ἐπὶ τοῦ ἀπαυγάσματος ἄν τις εἴποι καὶ τοῦ φωτὸς, ὅτι τὸ ἀπαύγασμα οὐκ ἔχει μὲν ‘βούλησιν προηγουμένην ἐν τῷ φωτὶ, ἔστι δὲ φύσει αὐτοῦ γέννημα, θελόμενον παρὰ τοῦ φωτὸς τοῦ καὶ γεννήσαντος αὐτὸ, οὐκ ἐν σκέψει βουλήσεως, ἀλλὰ φύσει καὶ ἀληθείᾳ· οὕτω καὶ ἐπὶ τοῦ Πατρὸς καὶ τοῦ Υἱοῦ ὀρθῶς ἄν τις εἴποι ὅτι ὁ Πατὴρ ἀγαπᾷ καὶ θέλει τὸν Υἱὸν, καὶ ὁ Υἱὸς ἀγαπᾷ καὶ θέλει τὸν Πατέρα.
66. Ar oun epei physei kai mē ek boulēseōs estin ho Huios, ēdē kai athelētos esti tǭ Patri, kai ‘mē boulomenouʼ tou Patros estin ho Huios? oumenoun; alla kai thelomenos estin ho Huios para tou Patros, kai, hōs autos phēsin, ‘ho Patēr philei ton Huion, kai panta deiknysin autǭ. Hōs gar to einai agathos ouk ek boulēseōs men ērxato, ou mēn aboulētōs kai athelētōs estin agathos (ho gar esti, touto kai thelēton estin autǭ), houtō kai to einai ton Huion, ei kai mē ek boulēseōs ērxato, allʼ ouk athelēton, oude para gnōmēn estin autǭ. Hōsper gar tēs idias hypostaseōs esti thelētēs, houtōs kai ho Huios, idios ōn autou tēs ousias, ouk athelētos estin autǭ, Thelesthō kai phileisthō toinyn ho Huios para tou Patros; kai houtō to ‘theleinʼ kai to ‘mē aboulētonʼ tou Theou tis eusebōs logizesthō. Kai gar ho Huios tę̄ thelēsei hę̄ theletai para tou Patros, tautę̄ kai autos agapa, kai thelei, kai timą ton Patera; kai hen esti thelēma to ek Patros en Huiǭ, hōs kai ek toutou theōreisthai ton Huion en tǭ Patri, kai ton Patera en tǭ Huiǭ. Mē mentoi kata Oualentinon proēgoumenēn tis ‘boulēsin epeisagetō, mēde meson tis heauton ōtheitō tou monou Patros pros ton monon Logon, prophasei tou ‘bouleuesthai;’ mainoito gar an tis, metaxy titheis Patros kai Huiou ‘boulēsinʼ kai skepsin. Kai gar heteron esti legein, ‘boulēsei gegonen;’ heteron de, hoti ‘idion onta physei ton Huion autou agapą kai thelei auton.’ To men gar legein, ‘ek boulēseōs gegone, prōton men to mē einai pote touton sēmainei; epeita de, kai tēn epʼ amphō rhopēn echei, kathaper eirētai; hōste dynasthai tina noein hoti ēdynato kai mē boulesthai ton Huion. Epi Huiou de legein, ‘ēdynato kai mē einai, ’ dyssebes esti kai phthanon eis tēn tou Patros ousian to tolmēma; eige to idion autēs ēdynato mē einai; homoion gar hōs ei elegeto, ‘ēdynato kai mē einai agathos ho Patēr.’ Allʼ hōsper agathos aei kai tę̄ physei, houtōs aei gennētikos tę̄ physei ho Patēr; to de legein, ‘ho Patēr thelei ton Huion, ʼ kai, ‘ho Logos thelei ton Patera, ʼ ou ‘boulēsin proēgoumenēnʼ deiknysin, alla physeōs gnēsiotēta, kai ousias idiotēta kai homoiōsin gnōrizei. Hōs gar kai epi tou apaugasmatos an tis eipoi kai tou phōtos, hoti to apaugasma ouk echei men ‘boulēsin proēgoumenēn en tǭ phōti, esti de physei autou gennēma, thelomenon para tou phōtos tou kai gennēsantos auto, ouk en skepsei boulēseōs, alla physei kai alētheią; houtō kai epi tou Patros kai tou Huiou orthōs an tis eipoi hoti ho Patēr agapą kai thelei ton Huion, kai ho Huios agapą kai thelei ton Patera.
Is it, then, that since the Son is by nature and not from will, he is already unwilled by the Father, and the Son exists “without the Father's willing”? By no means! Rather, the Son is willed by the Father, and, as he himself says, “The Father loves the Son and shows him all things.” For as God's being good did not begin from will, yet he is not good without willing or wishing it (for what he is, this he also wills), so too the Son's existence, even if it did not begin from will, is not unwilled by him nor against his inclination. For as he wills his own subsistence, so too the Son, being proper to his substance, is not unwilled by him. Let the Son, then, be willed and loved by the Father; and so let one piously reckon God's “willing” and “not being unwilling.” For the Son, with the same willing with which he is willed by the Father, himself too loves and wills and honors the Father; and the will from the Father in the Son is one, so that from this too the Son is seen in the Father and the Father in the Son. But let no one, after Valentinus, bring in a preceding “will,” nor let anyone thrust himself between the only Father and the only Word on the pretext of “deliberating”; for one would be mad to place “will” and consideration between Father and Son. For it is one thing to say, “he came into being by will,” and another to say, “he loves and wills his Son, who is his own by nature.” For to say “he came into being from will” signifies, first, that he once was not; and then it can lean both ways, as has been said, so that one might think that he could also not have willed the Son. But to say of the Son, “he could also not have been,” is impious, and the daring reaches to the Father's substance, if indeed what is proper to it could not have been; for it is as if one said, “the Father could also not have been good.” But as the Father is always good, and by nature, so he is always begetting by nature; and to say, “The Father wills the Son,” and “The Word wills the Father,” shows not “a preceding will,” but makes known the genuineness of nature and the propriety and likeness of substance. For as one might say in the case of the radiance and the light, that the radiance has no “preceding will” in the light, but is its offspring by nature, willed by the light that begot it, not by consideration of will but by nature and in truth; so too in the case of the Father and the Son one would rightly say that the Father loves and wills the Son, and the Son loves and wills the Father.
John 5:20 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:10 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Being Son by nature does not make the Son unwilled; the Father loves and wills him as he wills his own goodness, with one will shared by Father and Son, yet no will precedes the Son's existence.
- Slips corrected: ἡδύνατο to ἠδύνατο (twice), ἀγαπὰ to ἀγαπᾷ.
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- Digital text corrected (Accent and iota slip.; Breathing slip.): λέγειν, ‘ἡδύνατο → λέγειν, ‘ἠδύνατο; αὐτῆς ἡδύνατο → αὐτῆς ἠδύνατο; ὁ Πατὴρ ἀγαπὰ → ὁ Πατὴρ ἀγαπᾷ.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Athanasius, C. Ar. 66 (Bright, 219–220; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/athanasius-oratio-3/64/#p-66). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Bright (1884); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with NPNF² 4.
Chapter 67
67Bright, 220–221
67. Οὐκοῦν μὴ λεγέσθω θελήματος δημιούργημα ὁ Υἱὸς, (μηδὲ τὰ Οὐαλεντίνου ἐπεισαγέσθω τῇ ἐκκλησίᾳ, ) ἀλλὰ βουλὴ ζῶσα, καὶ ἀληθῶς φύσει γέννημα, ὡς τοῦ φωτὸς τὸ ἀπαύγασμα. Οὕτω γὰρ καὶ ὁ μὲν Πατὴρ εἴρηκεν, ‘Ἐξηρεύξατο ἡ καρδία μου Λόγον ἀγαθόν·’ ὁ δὲ Υἱὸς ἀκολούθως, ‘ἐγὼ ἐν τῷ Πατρὶ, καὶ ὁ Πατὴρ ἐν ἐμοί.’ Εἰ δὲ ὁ Λόγος ἐν καρδίᾳ, ποῦ ἡ βούλησις; καὶ εἰ ὁ Υἱὸς ἐν τῷ Πατρὶ, ποῦ ἡ θέλησις; καὶ εἰ ἡ βούλησις αὐτὸς, πῶς ‘ἐν βουλήσειʼ ἡ βουλή; ἄτοπον γάρ· ἵνα μὴ καὶ ἐν λόγῳ ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Υἱὸς ἐν υἱῷ, καὶ ἡ Σοφία ἐν σοφίᾳ γίνηται, καθάπερ πολλάκις εἴρηται. Πάντα γάρ ἐστιν ὁ Υἱὸς τοῦ Πατρός· καὶ οὐδὲν ἐν τῷ Πατρὶ πρὸ τοῦ Λόγου· ἀλλʼ ἐν τῷ Λόγῳ καὶ ἡ βούλησις· καὶ διʼ αὐτοῦ τὰ τοῦ βουλήματος εἰς ἔργον τελειοῦται, ὡς ἔδειξαν αἱ θεῖαι γραφαί. Ἐβουλόμην δὲ τοὺς ἀσεβεῖς οὕτως εἰς ἀλογίαν πεπτωκότας, καὶ περὶ ‘βουλήσεωςʼ σκεπτομένους, νῦν ἐρωτῆσαι μηκέτι τὰς τικτούσας αὐτῶν γυναῖκας, ἃς οὗτοι πρότερον ἠρώτων λέγοντες, ‘Εἰ εἶχες υἱὸν, πρὶν γεννήσῃς;’ ἀλλὰ τοὺς πατέρας, καὶ εἰπεῖν αὐτοῖς, ‘Πότερον βουλευόμενοι γίνεσθε πατέρες, ἢ κατὰ φύσιν καὶ τῆς ὑμῶν βουλήσεως; ἢ τῆς φύσεως καὶ οὐσίας ὑμῶν ἐστιν ὅμοια τὰ τέκνα;’ ἵνα κἂν παρὰ τῶν γονέων ἐντραπῶσι, παρʼ ὧν τὸ λῆμμα τῆς ‘γενέσεωςʼ ἀπῄτησαν, καὶ παρʼ ὧν ἤλπισαν ἔχειν τὴν γνῶσιν. Ἀποκριθήσονται γὰρ αὐτοῖς, ὅτι ‘ἃ γεννῶμεν, οὐ τοῦ θελήματος, ἀλλʼ ἡμῶν ἐστιν ὅμοια· οὐδὲ προβουλευσάμενοι γινόμεθα γονεῖς, ἀλλὰ τῆς φύσεως ἴδιόν ἐστι τὸ γεννᾷν· ἐπεὶ καὶ ἡμεῖς τῶν τεκόντων ἐσμὲν εἰκόνες.’ Ἢ τοίνυν καταγινωσκέτωσαν ἑαυτῶν, καὶ παυέσθωσαν πυνθανόμενοι γυναικῶν περὶ τοῦ Υἱοῦ τοῦ Θεοῦ, ἢ μανθανέτωσαν παρʼ αὐτῶν, ὅτι οὐ ‘βουλήσειʼ γεννᾶται ὁ υἱὸς, ἀλλὰ φύσει καὶ ἀληθείᾳ. Πρέπων δὲ καὶ ἁρμόζων τούτοις ὁ ἐξ ἀνθρώπων ἔλεγχος, ἐπειδὴ καὶ ἀνθρώπινα περὶ τῆς θεότητος διαλογίζονται οἱ κακόφρονες. Τί τοίνυν ἔτι μαίνονται οἱ Χριστομάχοι; καὶ τοῦτο γὰρ αὐτῶν, ὥσπερ οὖν καὶ τὰ ἄλλα προβλήματα, δέδεικται καὶ ἠλέγχθη φαντασία καὶ μυθοπλαστία μόνον ὄντα· καὶ διὰ τοῦτο ὀφείλουσι, κἂν ὀψέ ποτε θεωρήσαντες εἰς ὅσον ἀφροσύνης πεπτώκασι κρημνὸν, ἀναδῦναι καὶ φυγεῖν ἀπὸ ‘τῆς τοῦ διαβόλου παγίδος, ʼ νουθετούμενοι παρʼ ἡμῶν. Φιλάνθρωπος γὰρ ἡ ἀλήθεια, κράζουσα διαπαντός· ‘Εἰ ἐμοὶ μὴ πιστεύετεʼ διὰ τὴν τοῦ σώματος περιβολὴν, κἂν ‘τοῖς ἔργοις πιστεύσατε, ἵνα γνῶτε ὅτι ἐγὼ ἐν τῷ Πατρὶ, καὶ ὁ Πατὴρ ἐν ἐμοί·’ καὶ, ‘ἐγὼ καὶ ὁ Πατὴρ ἕν ἐσμεν·’ καὶ, ‘ὁ ἑωρακὼς ἐμὲ, ἑώρακε τὸν Πατέρα. ʼ Ἀλλʼ ὁ μὲν Κύριος συνήθως φιλανθρωπεύεται, καὶ θέλει πάντας ‘ἀνορθοῦσθαι τοὺς κατεῤῥαγμένους, ’ ὡς ‘ἡ αἴνεσιςʼ λέγει τοῦ Δαβίδ· οἱ δὲ ἀσεβεῖς, οὐ θέλοντες ἀκούειν Κυριακῆς φωνῆς, οὐδὲ φέροντες ὁρᾷν τὸν Κύριον ὑπὸ πάντων ὁμολογούμενον Θεὸν καὶ Θεοῦ Υἱὸν, περιέρχονται οἱ ἄθλιοι, ὡς οἱ κάνθαροι, μετὰ τοῦ πατρὸς ἑαυτῶν τοῦ διαβόλου προφάσεις εἰς ἀσέβειαν ζητοῦντες. Ποίας οὖν ἄρα μετὰ ταῦτα πάλιν, ἢ πόθεν εὑρεῖν δυνήσονται, εἰ μὴ ἄρα παρὰ μὲν Ἰουδαίων καὶ τοῦ Καϊάφα δανείσωνται τὰς δυσφημίας, παρʼ Ἑλλήνων δὲ λάβωσι τὴν ἀθεότητα; αἱ γὰρ θεῖαι γραφαὶ τούτοις ἐκλείσθησαν, καὶ πανταχόθεν ἐξ αὐτῶν ἠλέγχθησαν ἄφρονες καὶ Χριστομάχοι.
67. Oukoun mē legesthō thelēmatos dēmiourgēma ho Huios, (mēde ta Oualentinou epeisagesthō tę̄ ekklēsią, ) alla boulē zōsa, kai alēthōs physei gennēma, hōs tou phōtos to apaugasma. Houtō gar kai ho men Patēr eirēken, ‘Exēreuxato hē kardia mou Logon agathon;’ ho de Huios akolouthōs, ‘egō en tǭ Patri, kai ho Patēr en emoi.’ Ei de ho Logos en kardią, pou hē boulēsis? kai ei ho Huios en tǭ Patri, pou hē thelēsis? kai ei hē boulēsis autos, pōs ‘en boulēseiʼ hē boulē? atopon gar; hina mē kai en logǭ ho Logos, kai ho Huios en huiǭ, kai hē Sophia en sophią ginētai, kathaper pollakis eirētai. Panta gar estin ho Huios tou Patros; kai ouden en tǭ Patri pro tou Logou; allʼ en tǭ Logǭ kai hē boulēsis; kai diʼ autou ta tou boulēmatos eis ergon teleioutai, hōs edeixan hai theiai graphai. Eboulomēn de tous asebeis houtōs eis alogian peptōkotas, kai peri ‘boulēseōsʼ skeptomenous, nyn erōtēsai mēketi tas tiktousas autōn gynaikas, has houtoi proteron ērōtōn legontes, ‘Ei eiches huion, prin gennēsę̄s?’ alla tous pateras, kai eipein autois, ‘Poteron bouleuomenoi ginesthe pateres, ē kata physin kai tēs hymōn boulēseōs? ē tēs physeōs kai ousias hymōn estin homoia ta tekna?’ hina kan para tōn goneōn entrapōsi, parʼ hōn to lēmma tēs ‘geneseōsʼ apę̄tēsan, kai parʼ hōn ēlpisan echein tēn gnōsin. Apokrithēsontai gar autois, hoti ‘ha gennōmen, ou tou thelēmatos, allʼ hēmōn estin homoia; oude probouleusamenoi ginometha goneis, alla tēs physeōs idion esti to gennąn; epei kai hēmeis tōn tekontōn esmen eikones.’ Ē toinyn kataginōsketōsan heautōn, kai pauesthōsan pynthanomenoi gynaikōn peri tou Huiou tou Theou, ē manthanetōsan parʼ autōn, hoti ou ‘boulēseiʼ gennatai ho huios, alla physei kai alētheią. Prepōn de kai harmozōn toutois ho ex anthrōpōn elenchos, epeidē kai anthrōpina peri tēs theotētos dialogizontai hoi kakophrones. Ti toinyn eti mainontai hoi Christomachoi? kai touto gar autōn, hōsper oun kai ta alla problēmata, dedeiktai kai ēlenchthē phantasia kai mythoplastia monon onta; kai dia touto opheilousi, kan opse pote theōrēsantes eis hoson aphrosynēs peptōkasi krēmnon, anadynai kai phygein apo ‘tēs tou diabolou pagidos, ʼ nouthetoumenoi parʼ hēmōn. Philanthrōpos gar hē alētheia, krazousa diapantos; ‘Ei emoi mē pisteueteʼ dia tēn tou sōmatos peribolēn, kan ‘tois ergois pisteusate, hina gnōte hoti egō en tǭ Patri, kai ho Patēr en emoi;’ kai, ‘egō kai ho Patēr hen esmen;’ kai, ‘ho heōrakōs eme, heōrake ton Patera. ʼ Allʼ ho men Kyrios synēthōs philanthrōpeuetai, kai thelei pantas ‘anorthousthai tous katerrhagmenous, ’ hōs ‘hē ainesisʼ legei tou Dabid; hoi de asebeis, ou thelontes akouein Kyriakēs phōnēs, oude pherontes horąn ton Kyrion hypo pantōn homologoumenon Theon kai Theou Huion, perierchontai hoi athlioi, hōs hoi kantharoi, meta tou patros heautōn tou diabolou prophaseis eis asebeian zētountes. Poias oun ara meta tauta palin, ē pothen heurein dynēsontai, ei mē ara para men Ioudaiōn kai tou Kaïapha daneisōntai tas dysphēmias, parʼ Hellēnōn de labōsi tēn atheotēta? hai gar theiai graphai toutois ekleisthēsan, kai pantachothen ex autōn ēlenchthēsan aphrones kai Christomachoi.
So let the Son not be called a product of will (nor let the doctrines of Valentinus be brought into the church), but living counsel, and truly offspring by nature, as the radiance is of the light. For so the Father too said, “My heart has uttered a good Word,” and the Son correspondingly, “I am in the Father and the Father in me.” And if the Word is in the heart, where is the will? And if the Son is in the Father, where is the wishing? And if he himself is the will, how is the counsel “in a will”? It is absurd; lest the Word too come to be in a word, and the Son in a son, and the Wisdom in a wisdom, as has often been said. For the Son is everything that is the Father's; and there is nothing in the Father before the Word; but the will too is in the Word, and through him the things of the will are brought to completion in deed, as the divine Scriptures have shown. I would like to ask the impious, who have thus fallen into unreason and deliberate about “will,” no longer the women who give birth among them, whom they questioned before, saying, “Did you have a son before you gave birth?”, but the fathers, and to say to them, “Do you become fathers by deliberating, or by nature and apart from your will? Or are your children like your nature and substance?” so that at least they may be put to shame by the parents from whom they demanded the premise about “generation,” and from whom they hoped to gain knowledge. For they will answer them, “What we beget is like not our will but ourselves; nor do we become parents by deliberating beforehand, but begetting is proper to nature; since we too are images of those who bore us.” Either, then, let them condemn themselves and stop questioning women about the Son of God, or let them learn from them that a son is begotten not “by will” but by nature and in truth. And this refutation from human examples is fitting and suitable for them, since the evil-minded reason in human terms about the Godhead. Why, then, do the Christ-fighters still rage? For this too, like their other propositions, has been shown and proved to be only fancy and fable; and therefore they ought, even at this late hour, seeing into how deep a precipice of folly they have fallen, to rise up and flee from “the snare of the devil,” being admonished by us. For the truth loves humankind, crying out always: “If you do not believe me” because I am clothed with the body, yet “believe the works, so that you may know that I am in the Father and the Father in me,” and “I and the Father are one,” and “He who has seen me has seen the Father.” But the Lord, as is his way, shows his love for humankind, and wills all “those who are bowed down to be raised up,” as the “praise” of David says; but the impious, not willing to hear the Lord's voice, nor bearing to see the Lord confessed by all as God and Son of God, go about, the wretches, like dung beetles, seeking with their father the devil pretexts for impiety. What pretexts, then, will they be able to find after this, or from where—unless they borrow blasphemies from the Jews and Caiaphas, and take their atheism from the Greeks? For the divine Scriptures have been closed to them, and from them they have been refuted on every side as senseless and Christ-fighters.
Ps 45:1 (44:2 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:10 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 2:26 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:38 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:30 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 145:14 (144:14 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:44 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: The Son is the Father's living counsel, not a product of will; human fathers too beget by nature, not by deliberation; the oration ends by urging the Arians to escape the devil's snare.
- “Did you have a son before you gave birth?” was an Arian question put to mothers (compare 2.18).
- “Those who are bowed down to be raised up” is Ps 145:14 (LXX 144:14), whose title is “Praise of David.”
- The closing comparison with Jews, Caiaphas, and Greeks is the author's polemic.
- Slips corrected: ἂς to ἃς, ἁμόζων to ἁρμόζων.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Breathing slip.; Letter dropped.): ἂς οὗτοι → ἃς οὗτοι; ἁμόζων → ἁρμόζων.
Cite (SBL): Athanasius, C. Ar. 67 (Bright, 220–221; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/athanasius-oratio-3/64/#p-67). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Bright (1884); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with NPNF² 4.