On Catechizing the Uninstructed 9–15

Latin text: Migne, PL 40 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 3 (1887).

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Chapter 9

9PL 40:319

Sunt item quidam de scholis usitatissimis grammaticorum oratorumque venientes, quos neque inter idiotas nu­ merare audeas, ncque inter illos doctissimos, quorum mens magnarum rerum cst exercitata quæstionibus. His ergo qui loquendi arte cæteris hominibus excel­ lere videntur, cum veniunt ut christiani fiant, hoc amplius quam illis illitteratis impertire dcbemus, quod ' scdulo monendi sunt ut humilitate induti christiana, discant non conteminere quos cognoverint morum vi­ tia quam verborum amplius devitare; et cordi casto linguam exercitatam nec conferre 1 audeantv quam etiam præferre consueverant. Maxime autem isti do­ cendi sunt Scripturas audire divinas, nc sordeat cis solidum eloquium, quia uon est inflatum; neque ar­ bitrentur carnalibus integumentis involuta atque operta dicta vel facta hominum, quæ iniliis libris le­ guntur, non evolvenda atque aperienda ut intelligan­ tur, sed sic accipienda ut litteræ sonant; deque ipsa utilitate secreti, unde etiam mysteria vocantur, quid valeant aenigmatum latebræ ad amorem veritatis acuendum, decutiendumque 2 fastidii torporem, ipsa experientia probandum est talibus, cum aliquid eis quod in promptu positum non ita movebat, enoda­ tione allegoriæ alicujus eruitur. Ilis enim maxime utile cst nosse, ita esse præponendas verbis senten­ tias, ut præponituranimus corpori. Ex quo fit ut ita malle debeant veriores quam disertiores audire ser­ mones, sicut malle debeut prudentiores, quant for­ mosiores habere amicos. Noverint etiam non esse vo­ cem ad aures Dei, nisi animi affectum: ita enim non irridebunt, si aliquos antistites et ministres Ecclesiæ forte animadverterint, vel cum barbarismis et solœ­ cismis Dcum invocare, vel cadem verba quæ pronuntiant non intelligere, perturbateque distinguere. Non quia ista minime corrigenda sunt, ut populus ad id quod plane intelligit, dicat Amen; sed tamen pie to­ leranda sunt ab eis qui didicerint, ut sono in foro, sic volo in Ecclesia benedici. Itaque forensis illa nonnum. quam forte bona dictio, nunquam tamen Ienedictio dici potest. De Sacramento autem quod accepturi suni, sufficit prudentioribus audirc quid res illa si­ gnificet: cum tardioribus autem aliquanto pluribus verbis et similitudinibus agendum est, ne conteninant quod vident.

There are also some who come from the most common schools of the grammarians and orators, whom you would not dare to count among the ignorant, nor yet among those most learned men whose minds have been trained by questions about great matters. To these, then, who seem to excel other people in the art of speaking, when they come to become Christians, we ought to impart this more than to the illiterate: they must be carefully warned to put on Christian humility and learn not to despise those whom they know to avoid faults of conduct more than faults of words; and not to dare even to compare a trained tongue with a chaste heart, which they had been accustomed even to rank above it. Above all, these must be taught to listen to the divine Scriptures, so that solid eloquence may not seem mean to them because it is not inflated; and so that they may not think that the words or deeds of men that are read in those books, wrapped and covered in fleshly coverings, are not to be unrolled and opened up so as to be understood, but are to be taken just as the letters sound; and concerning the very usefulness of what is secret, from which they are also called mysteries, how much the hiding places of riddles avail to sharpen the love of truth and to shake off the torpor of disdain, this must be proved to such people by experience itself, when something that did not move them much when it lay open to view is drawn out by the unravelling of some allegory. For it is most useful for these to know that thoughts are to be ranked above words as the soul is ranked above the body. From this it follows that they ought to prefer to hear truer rather than more eloquent discourses, as they ought to prefer to have wiser rather than handsomer friends. Let them know also that nothing is a voice to the ears of God but the affection of the mind; for then they will not mock if they happen to notice that some bishops and ministers of the Church either call on God with barbarisms and solecisms, or do not understand the very words they pronounce, and divide them up confusedly. Not that these things should not be corrected, so that the people may say Amen to what it plainly understands; but they should be tolerated devoutly by those who have learned that, as in the forum it is a matter of sound, so in the Church it is of desire that blessing is spoken. And so that forensic speech may sometimes perhaps be called good diction, but never benediction. As for the sacrament they are about to receive, it is enough for the more intelligent to hear what that thing signifies; but with the slower, one must deal with rather more words and with comparisons, so that they may not despise what they see.

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Summary: Candidates from the schools of grammar and rhetoric must learn humility, value truth above eloquence, learn that Scripture's hidden meanings reward study, and not mock clergy whose Latin is faulty.

  • Augustine's wordplay is “ut sono in foro, sic voto in Ecclesia benedici”: in the forum “bene dici” (good speech) is a matter of sound, in the Church “benedici” (blessing) is a matter of desire; the digital text reads “volo” for voto (an OCR slip), translated by sense, and the play is rendered with “diction/benediction”. “The sacrament they are about to receive” is baptism.

Topics: Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Cat. rud. 9 (PL 40:319; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-catechizandis-rudibus/9/#p-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 10

10PL 40:319–321

Hic tu fortasse exem­ plum aliquod sermonis desideras, ut ipso tibi opere ostendam quomodo facienda sint ista quæ monni. Quod quidem faciam, quantum Domino adjuvante po­ tuero: sed prius de iila hilaritate comparanda, quod pollicitus sum, dicere dehco. Jam euim de ipsis prae. ceptis explicandi sermonis, in catechizando eo qui sic verit ut christianus fiat, quantum satis visum cst, quod promiseram exsolvi. Indebitum quippe eat, ut etiam ipse faciam in hoc volumine, quod fieri oportere praecipio. Si ergo fecero, ad cumulum valebit: cu­ mulus autem quo pacto a me superfundi potest, an­ tequam mensuram debiti explevero? Neque enim te maxime conqueri audivi, nisi qnod tibi sermo tuus vilis abjectusquc videretur, cum aliqucm christiano nomine imbuercs. Hoc autem scio, non tam rerum quae dicendæ sunt, quibus te satis novi paratum et instructum, neque ipsius locutionis inopia, sed animi tædio fieri; vel illa causa quam dixi, quia magis nos delectat ct tenet, quud in silentio mente cernimus, nec inde volumus avocari ad verborum longe dispa­ rem strepitum; vel quia etiam cum sermo jucundus est, magis nos libet audire aut legere quæ melius di­ cia sunt, et quae sine nostra cura et sollicitudine pro­ muntur, quam ad alienum sensum repentina verba coaptare incerto exitu, sive utrum occurrant pro sen­ tentia, sive ulrum accipiantur utiliter; vel quia illa quæ rudibus insinuantur, eo quod nohis notissima sunt, et provectui nostro jam non necessaria, piget ad ea sæpissime redire, nec in eis tam usitatis et tan­ quam infantilibus cum aliqua voluptate jam gran­ disculus anianus graditur. Facit etiam loquenti tae­ dium auditor [immobilis vel quia non movetur affe­ ctn, vel quia nullo motu corporis iudicat se intelligere vel sibi placere quæ dicuntur1 ]: non quia humanæ laudis nos esse avidos decet, sed quia ea quæ mini­ stramus Dei sunt; et quanto magis diligimus eos qui­ bus loquimur, tanto magis eis cupimus ut placeant quæ ad corum porriguntur salutem: quod si non suc­ cedit, contristamur, et in ipso cursu debilitamur et frangimur, quasi frustra operam conteramus. Nun­ nunquam etiam cum avertimur ab aliqua re quam desideramus agere, et cujus actio aut delectabat nos, aut magis nobis necessaria videbatur, et cogimur aut jussu ejus quem offendere nolumus, aut aliquorum inevitabili instantia catechizare aliquem jam contur­ bati accedimus ad negotium, cui magna tranquillitate opus est, dolentes qnod ncque ordinem actionum no­ bis conceditur tenere quem volumus, nee sufficere omnibus possumus: atque ita ex ipsa tristitia sermo procedens minus gratus est, quia de ariditate mœsti­ tiae minus exuberat. Aliquando item ex aliquo scan­ dalo mœror pectus obsedit2, et tunc nobis dicitur, Venit loquere huic; christianus vult fieri. Dicitur 2 enim ab ignorantibus quid nos clausumintus exurat: quibus si affectum nostrum aperire non oportet, suscipimus ingratius quod volunt '; et profectolan­ guidus et insuavis ille sermo erit pcr venam cordis aestuantem fumantemque trajectus. Tot igitur ex cau­ sis, quælibet earum serenitatem nostra; mentis obnu­ bilet, secundum Deum sunt quxrenda remedia, qui­ bus relaxetur illa contractio, et fervore spiritus ex­ suitemus et jucundemur in tranquillitate botri operis. Hilarem enim datorem diligit Deus (Il Cor. ix, 7). Si enim causa illa contristat, quod intellectum nostrum auditor non capit, a cujus cacumine quodam modo descendentes cogimur in syllabarum longe in­ fra distantium tarditate demorari, et curam gerimus quemadmodum longis et per plexis anfractibus proce­ dat ex ore carnis, quod celerrimo haustu mentis im­ bibitur, et quia multum dissimiliter exit, tædet loqui, et libet tacere; cogitemus quid nobis prærogatum sit ab illo qui demonstravit nobis exemplum, ut sequa­ mur vestigia'ejus ( I Petr. II, 21). Quantumvis enim difierat articulata vox nostra aC intelligentiæ nostræ vivacitate, longe differentior est mortalitas carnis "b æqualitate Dei. Et tamen cum in eadem forma esset, temetipsum exinanivit formam servi accipiens, etc., us­ que ad (a) mortem crucis ( Philipp. II, 6-8). Quam ob causam, nisi quia factus est infirmis infirmis,;ut in­ firmos lucrificaret ( I Cor. IX, 22 )? Audi ejus imita­ torem alibi etiam dicentem: Sive enim mente excessi­ mus, Deo; sive temperantes sumus, vobis. Charitas enim Christi compellit nos, judicantes hoc, quia unus pro om­ nibus mortuus eat. Quomodo enim paratus esset impendi pro animabus eorum ( Id. XII, 15), si eum pigeret inclinari ad aures eorum? Hinc ergo factus est parvulus in medio nostrum, tanquam nutrix fovens filios suos. Num enim delectat, nisi amor invitet, decurtata et multilata ver­ ba immurmurare? Et tamen optant homines babere infantes, quibus id exhibeant: et suavius est matri minuta mansa inspuere parvulo filio, quam ipsam mandere ac devorare grandiora. Non ergo recedat de pectore etiam cogitatio gallinae illius, quæ languidu­ lis plumis teneros fetus operit, et susurrantes pullos confracta voce advocat; cujus blandas alas refugien­ tcs superbi, præda fiunt alitibus ( Matth. XXIII, 37). Si enim intellectus delectat in penetralibus sinceris­ simis, hoc cHam intelligere delci tat, quomodo chari­ tas, quanto officiosius descendit in infima, tanto ro­ bustius recurrit in intima per bonam conscientiam nihil quærendi1 ab eis ad quos descendit, præter eo­ rum sempiternam salutem.

Here perhaps you want some model discourse, so that I may show you in practice how the things I have advised are to be done. I will do this, as far as I can with the Lord's help; but first I must speak, as I promised, of gaining that cheerfulness. For I have now paid what I promised, as far as seemed sufficient, about the precepts for setting out a discourse in catechizing one who has come to become a Christian. It is not owed, indeed, that I should myself do in this volume what I teach ought to be done. If, then, I do it, it will count as an overflow; but how can I pour out an overflow before I have filled up the measure of what is owed? For I did not hear you complain chiefly of anything except that your discourse seemed to you cheap and poor when you were grounding someone in the Christian name. But I know that this comes not so much from a lack of the things to be said, for which I know you are well prepared and equipped, nor from a lack of the power of speech itself, but from weariness of mind: either for the reason I mentioned, because what we perceive in our mind in silence delights and holds us more, and we do not want to be called away from it to the far different noise of words; or because, even when speaking is pleasant, we prefer to hear or read things that have been said better and that are brought out without our trouble and anxiety, rather than to fit sudden words to another's understanding with uncertain outcome, both whether they will come to hand to express the thought and whether they will be received with profit; or because the things that are presented to the uninstructed, since they are very well known to us and no longer needed for our progress, are irksome to return to very often, and a mind that has grown up no longer walks with any pleasure among things so familiar and, as it were, childish. A listener also makes the speaker weary [who is unmoved, either because he is not stirred in feeling or because he gives no sign by any movement of his body that he understands or is pleased by what is said]: not that it becomes us to be greedy for human praise, but because the things we minister are God's; and the more we love those to whom we speak, the more we desire that the things offered for their salvation should please them; and if this does not succeed, we are saddened, and in the very course of our speaking we are weakened and broken, as though we were wearing out our effort in vain. Sometimes, too, when we are turned away from something we wish to do, whose doing either delighted us or seemed more necessary to us, and we are compelled, either by the order of someone we do not wish to offend or by the unavoidable insistence of some people, to catechize someone, we come already troubled to a task that needs great calm, grieving that we are not allowed to keep the order of actions we want and that we cannot be equal to everything; and so the discourse that proceeds from that very sadness is less pleasing, because it flows less abundantly out of the dryness of gloom. At times, again, grief over some scandal has beset the heart, and just then we are told: “Come, speak to this man; he wants to become a Christian.” For it is said by those who do not know what is burning us, shut up within; and if it is not fitting to open our feelings to them, we take on what they want with little pleasure; and surely that discourse will be languid and unpleasant, passed through the channel of a heart that is seething and smoking. Since there are so many causes, whichever of them clouds the calm of our mind, remedies are to be sought according to God, by which that tightness may be loosened, and we may exult in fervour of spirit and be joyful in the calm of a good work. For God loves a cheerful giver. For if the reason we are saddened is that the hearer does not grasp our understanding, from whose summit we are forced in a way to come down and linger in the slowness of syllables far below it, and we are anxious how something that is drunk in by the mind in one swift draught may come out of the mouth of flesh by long and tangled windings, and because it comes out very unlike, we are weary of speaking and would rather be silent: let us think what was granted to us beforehand by him who showed us an example, that we should follow in his steps. For however much our articulate voice differs from the liveliness of our understanding, much more different is the mortality of the flesh from equality with God. And yet, though he was in the same form, he emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, and so on down to the death of the cross. For what reason, if not that he became weak to the weak, that he might gain the weak? Hear his imitator also saying elsewhere: For if we are beside ourselves, it is for God; if we are of sound mind, it is for you. For the love of Christ compels us, judging this, that one died for all. For how would he be ready to be spent for their souls, if it were irksome to him to bend down to their ears? This is why he became a little one in our midst, like a nurse cherishing her children. For is it a delight to murmur clipped and mutilated words, unless love invites it? And yet people long to have infants to whom they may do this; and it is sweeter to a mother to put small chewed morsels into the mouth of her little son than to chew and swallow larger ones herself. So let not the thought of that hen leave our hearts either, which covers her tender brood with drooping feathers and calls her chirping chicks with a broken voice; and those who proudly flee her gentle wings become prey to birds. For if understanding delights in the purest inner places, it is also a delight to understand how love, the more dutifully it comes down to the lowest things, the more strongly it returns to the inmost things, through a good conscience that seeks nothing from those to whom it comes down except their everlasting salvation.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

2 Cor 9:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 12:11 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Pet 2:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 9:22 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 5:13 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 12:15 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Thess 2:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 23:37 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine turns to the causes of the catechist's weariness, beginning with the gap between thought and speech, and answers it with the example of Christ and Paul, who stooped in love to the weak.

  • Migne prints the clause “who is unmoved … what is said” in square brackets (a reading found in some manuscripts); it is translated here and marked with brackets.
  • “God loves a cheerful giver”: 2 Cor 9:7. “Fervour of spirit”: Rom 12:11. “Left us an example …”: 1 Pet 2:21. “Emptied himself … death of the cross”: Phil 2:6–8. “Weak to the weak”: 1 Cor 9:22. “If we are beside ourselves …”: 2 Cor 5:13–14. “Ready to be spent for their souls”: 2 Cor 12:15. “A little one in our midst, like a nurse …”: 1 Thess 2:7. The hen and her chicks: Matt 23:37.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Cat. rud. 10 (PL 40:319–321; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-catechizandis-rudibus/9/#p-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 11

11PL 40:321–323

Si autem niagis appetimus, ea quæ jam parata sunt et melius dicta legere vel audire, et ideo piget inecrto exitu ad tempus coaptare quae loquimur: tan­ tum a veritnte rerum non aberret animus, facile est ut si in verbis auditorem aliquid offenderit, ex ipsa occasione discat quam sit re intellectacontemnen­ dum, si minus integre, aut si minus propric sonare potuit, quod ideo sonabat ut res intelligeretur Quod si humanæ infirmitatis intentio enam ab ipsa reruni veritate aberraverit; quanquam in catechizandis ru­ dibus, ubi via tritissima tenenda est, difficile potest accidere: tamen ne forte accidat ut ctiam hinc offen­ datur auditor, non aliunde nohis debet vidcri acci­ disse, nisi quia Deus experi..os voluit, utrum cum mentis placiditate corrigamur, ne in defensionem IIO­ stri erroris majore præcipitemur errore. Quod si ne­ mo nobis dixerit, nosque et illos qui audierunt omni- IIO latuerit, nullus dolor est, si non fiat iterum. Ple­ rumque antem nos ipsi recolentes quae dixeri­ mus, reprehendimus aliquid, et ignoramus quo­ modo cum diceretur acceptum sit; magisque do­ lemus, quando in nobis fervet charitas, si cum falsum esset, libenter acceptum est. Ideoque op­ portunitate reperta, sicut nos ipsos in silentio re­ prehendimus, ita curandum est ut etiam illi sensim corrigantur, qui non Dei verbis, sed plane nostris in aliquam lapsi sunt falsitatem. Si vero aliqui livore ve­ sano cæci errasse nos gaudent, susurrones, detracto­ res, Deo odibiles ( Rom. i, 50); præbcant nobis ma­ teriam exercendæ patientiæ cum misericordia, quia et patientia Dei ad poenitentiam eos adducit. Quid enim est detestabilius, et quod magis thesaurizet iram in die iræ et revelationis justi judicii Dei (Id. n, 4 et 5), qnam de malo alterius mala1 diaboli si­ militudine atque imitatione laetari? Nonnunquam etiam, cum rectc omnia vereque dicantur, aut non intellectum aliquid, aut contra opinionem et consue­ tudinem vetcris erroris ipsa novitate asperum, of­ fendit et perturbat audientem. Quod si apparuerit, sanabilemque se præbet, auctoritatum rationumque copia sine ulla dilatione sanandus est. Si autem tacita et occulta offensio est, Dei medicina opitulari potest. At si resiluerit2, et curari recusaverit, consoletur nos dominicum illud exemplum, qui offensis homi­ nibus ex verbo suo, et tanquam durum refugientibus, etiam iis qui remanserant ait, Numquid et vos vultis ire? Salis enim fixum atque immo­ bile debet corde retineri, Jerusalem captivam ab hu­ jus saeculi Babylonia decursis temporibus liberari, nullumque ex illa esse periturum; quia qui perierit, non ex illa erat. Firmum enim fundamentum Dei stat, habens signaculum hoc: novit Dominus qui sunt ejus; et recedat ab iniquitate, omnis qui nominat nomen Do­ mini ( II Tim. II, 19). Ista cogitantes, ct invocantes Dominum in cor nostrum, minus timebimus incertos exitus sermonis nostri propter incertos motus audito­ rum; delectabitque nos etiam ipsa perpessio mole­ stiarum pro misericordi opere, si non in eo nostram gloriam rcquirainus. Tunc enim est vere opus bo­ num, cum a charitate jaculatur agentis intentio, et tanquam ad locum suum rediens, rursus in charitate requiescit. Lectio vero quæ nos delectat, aut aliqua. auditio melioris eloquii, ut eam promendo, sermoni nostro præponere volentes, cum pigritia vel tædio lo­ quamur, alacriores nos suscipiet; jucundiorqne prae. stabitur post laborem; et majore fiducia deprecabimur ut loquatur nobis Deus quomodo volumus, si susci­ piamus hilariter ut loquatur per nos quomodo possu­ mus: ita lit ut diligentibus Deum omnia concurrant in bonum.

But if we would rather read or hear things that are already prepared and better said, and so are reluctant to fit what we say to the occasion with uncertain outcome: provided only that the mind does not stray from the truth of the matters, it is easy, if anything in the words offends the hearer, for him to learn from that very occasion how little it matters, once the thing is understood, if what sounded so that the thing might be understood could not sound quite correctly or properly. But if the effort of human weakness has strayed even from the truth of the matters themselves (although in catechizing the uninstructed, where the most beaten path is to be kept, this can hardly happen), still, lest the hearer perhaps be offended by this too, it ought to seem to us to have happened for no other reason than that God wished to test us, whether we would be corrected with calmness of mind, so as not to rush headlong into a greater error in defence of our error. And if no one has told us, and it has escaped both us and those who heard altogether, there is no grief, provided it does not happen again. Often, however, we ourselves, going back over what we have said, find something to blame, and do not know how it was received when it was said; and when love burns in us, we grieve the more if, though it was false, it was gladly received. And so, when an opportunity is found, just as we have blamed ourselves in silence, so care must be taken that those too may be gradually corrected who have slipped into some falsehood, not through God's words but plainly through ours. But if some, blinded by mad envy, rejoice that we have erred, whisperers, slanderers, hateful to God, let them give us material for exercising patience with mercy, because the patience of God too leads them to repentance. For what is more detestable, and what more stores up wrath on the day of wrath and of the revelation of the just judgment of God, than to rejoice in another's harm in the likeness and imitation of the devil? Sometimes, too, though everything is said rightly and truly, something either not understood, or harsh by its very novelty, being against the opinion and custom of an old error, offends and disturbs the hearer. If this becomes apparent and he shows himself curable, he must be healed without any delay by an abundance of authorities and reasons. But if the offence is silent and hidden, God's medicine can help. And if he recoils and refuses to be cured, let us be consoled by that example of the Lord, who, when people were offended by his word and drew back from it as hard, said even to those who had stayed, Do you also wish to go away? For it must be held fixed and immovable in the heart that captive Jerusalem will be set free from the Babylon of this world when the times have run their course, and that none of her will perish; because whoever perishes was not of her. For the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal: The Lord knows those who are his; and, Let everyone who names the name of the Lord depart from iniquity. Thinking on these things, and calling the Lord into our heart, we shall fear less the uncertain outcome of our discourse because of the uncertain movements of the hearers; and even the enduring of troubles for a work of mercy will delight us, if we do not seek our own glory in it. For a work is truly good when the intention of the one who acts is launched from love and, as if returning to its own place, rests again in love. And the reading that delights us, or the hearing of some better eloquence, which we would like to set above our own discourse and so speak with sluggishness or weariness, will receive us more eagerly afterward and will be granted us more pleasantly after the labour; and we shall pray with greater confidence that God may speak to us as we wish, if we cheerfully undertake that he may speak through us as we can: thus it comes about that for those who love God all things work together for good.

Rom 1:30 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 2:4 (quotation, high confidence) · John 6:67 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 2:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:28 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine answers weariness over imperfect speech and occasional error: correct mistakes calmly, bear malicious critics patiently, trust God with hearers who take offence, and work from love.

  • “Whisperers, slanderers, hateful to God”: Rom 1:29–30 (the digital text's marginal reference reads “Rom. i, 50”). “The patience of God leads them to repentance … wrath on the day of wrath”: Rom 2:4–5. “Do you also wish to go away?”: John 6:67. “The firm foundation of God stands …”: 2 Tim 2:19. “All things work together for good”: Rom 8:28. Captive Jerusalem and Babylon: the city of God and the city of this world, a recurring image in Augustine.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Cat. rud. 11 (PL 40:321–323; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-catechizandis-rudibus/9/#p-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 12

12PL 40:323

Jam vcro si usitata et parvulis congruentia sæpe rcpetere faslidimus; congruamus eis per fra­ ternum, paternum, maternumque amorem, et copu­ latis cordi eorum etiam nobis nova videbuntur. Tan­ tum enim valet animi compatientis affectus, ut cum illi afficiuntur nohis loquentibus, et nos illis discenti­ bus, habitemus in invicem; atque ita et illi quæ au. diunt quasi loquantur in nobis, et nos in illis disca - mus quodam modo quæ docemus. Nonne accidere hoc solet, cum loca quaedam ampla et pulchra, vel urbium vel quæ jam nos sæpe videndo sinealiquavo­ luptate præteribamus, ostendimus eis qui antea nun­ quam viderant, ut nostra delectatio in eorum novita­ tatis delectatione rcnovetur? Et tanto magis, quanto suut amiciores; quia per amoris vinculum in quan­ tum in illis sumus, in tantum et nobis nova Dunt quae vetera fuerunt. Sed si in rebus contemplandis ali­ quantum profccimus, non volumus cos quos diligimus lætari et stupere, cum intuentur opera manuum hominum; sed volumus eos in ipsam artem 1 consilium­ ve institutoris attollere, atque inde exsurgere in ad­ miralionem laudemque omnicreantis Dei, ubi amoris fructuosissimus finis est: quanto ergo magis delectari nos oportet, cunt ipsum Deum jam discere homines accedunt, propter quem discenda sunt quæcumque discenda sunt; et in eorum novitate innovari, ut si frigidior est solita I nostra praedicatio, insolita eo­ rum auditione fervescat? Huc accedit ad comparan­ dam laetitiam, quod cogitamus et consideramus, de qua erroris morte in vitam fidei transeat homo. Et si vicos usitatissimos cum benefica hilaritate transimus, quando alicui forte qui errando laboraverat, demon­ stramus viam: quanto alacrius et cum gaudio majo­ re in doctrina salutari, etiam illa quæ propter nos re­ texere nou opus est, perambulare debemus; cum animam miserandam et crroribus sacculi fatigatam per itinera pacis, ipso qui nobis eam I praestitit ju­ bente3, deducimus?

And now, if we are weary of often repeating things that are familiar and suited to little ones, let us suit ourselves to them by a brotherly, fatherly, and motherly love, and once we are joined to their hearts, even these things will seem new to us. For the feeling of a mind that shares in suffering has such power that, when they are touched by us as we speak and we by them as they learn, we dwell in one another; and so they, as it were, speak in us what they hear, and we in a way learn in them what we teach. Does it not usually happen, when we show certain spacious and beautiful places, whether in cities or in the countryside, which we used to pass by without any pleasure because we had often seen them, to people who had never seen them before, that our delight is renewed in the delight of their novelty? And the more so the closer friends they are; because through the bond of love, so far as we are in them, so far what was old becomes new to us too. But if we have made some progress in contemplating things, we do not want those we love to rejoice and be amazed when they look at the works of men's hands; we want to lift them up to the art itself or the plan of the maker, and from there to rise to the admiration and praise of God, the creator of all, where love has its most fruitful end: how much more, then, ought we to be delighted when people now come to learn of God himself, for whose sake whatever is to be learned is to be learned; and to be renewed in their newness, so that if our customary preaching is rather cold, it may grow warm through their unaccustomed hearing? Add to this, for gaining joy, that we think and consider from what death of error a person is passing into the life of faith. And if we walk through the most familiar streets with kindly cheerfulness when we happen to show the way to someone who had been struggling because he was lost, how much more eagerly and with greater joy ought we to walk, in saving teaching, even those ways that we have no need to go over again for our own sake, when we are leading a pitiable soul, wearied by the errors of the world, along the paths of peace, at the command of him who granted it to us?

Luke 1:79 (echo, low confidence)

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Summary: Weariness at repeating familiar things is overcome by love, through which the catechist shares the beginner's delight in what is new, as one enjoys showing familiar sights to a newcomer or guiding a lost traveller.

  • “Along the paths of peace”: cf. Luke 1:79.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Cat. rud. 12 (PL 40:323; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-catechizandis-rudibus/9/#p-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 13

13PL 40:323–325

Sed revera multum est perdurare in loquendo usque ad terminum præ. stitutum, cum moveri non videmus audientem; quod sive nou audeat, religionis timore constrictus, voce aut aliquo motu corporis significare approbationem suam, sive humana verecundia reprimatur; sive di­ cta nou intelligat, sive contemnat: quandoquidem nobis non cernentibus auimum ejus incertum est, omnia sermone tentanda sunt, quae ad eum excitan­ dum et tanquam de latebris eruendum possint valere. Nam et timor nimius atque impediens declarationem judicii ejus, blanda exhortatione pellendus est, et insinuando fraternam societatem verecundia tempe­ randa, et interrogatione quærendum utrum intelligat, et danda fiducia, ut si quid ei contradiccudum vide­ tur, libere proferat. Quaerendam etiam de illo utrum hæc aliquando jam audierit, et fortassis eum tanquam nota et pervulgata non moveant; et agendum pro ejus responsione, ut aut planius et enodatius loquamur, aut opinionem contrariam refellamus, aut ea quæ illi nota sunt uon explicemus latius, sed breviter com­ plicemus, eligamusque aliqua ex bis quæ mystice dicta sunt in sanctis Libris, et maxime in ipsa nar­ ratione, quae aperiendo et revelando noster sermo dulcescat. Quod si nimis tardus est, et ab omni tali suavitate absurdus et aversus, misericorditer suffe­ rendus est, breviterque decursis cæteris, ea quæ ma­ sime necessaria sunt, de unitate Catholicæ de ten­ tationibns, de christiana conversatione propter futu­ rum judicium terribiliter inculcanda sunt, magisque pro illo ad Deum, quam illi de Deo multa dicenda. Saepe etiam fit ut qui primo libenter audiebat, vel audiendo vel stando fatigatus, non jam laudans, sed oscitans labia diducat, et se abire velle etiam invitus ostendat. Quod ubi senserimus, aut renovare oportet ejus animum, dicendo aliquid honesta hilaritate con­ ditum et aptum rei quæ agitur, vel aliquid valde mi­ randum et stupendum, vel etiam dolendum atque plangendum; et magis de ipso, ut propria cura pun­ cius evigilet; quod tamen non offendat ejus verecun­ diam asperitate aliqua, sed potius familiaritate con­ ciliet; aut oblata sessione I succurrere; quanquam sine dubitatione melius fiat, ubi decenter fieri potest, ut a principio sedens audiat; longeque consultius in quibusdam Ecclesiis transmarinis non solum antisti­ tes sedentes loquuntur ad populum, sed ipsi eliam populo sedilia subjacent, ne quisquam infirmior stan­ do lassatus a saluberrima intentione avertatur, aut etiam cogatur abscedere. Et tamen multum interest, si se quisquam de magna multitudine subtrahat ad reparandas vires, qui jam sacramentorum societate devinctus est; et si ille discedat quod plerumque in­ evitabiliter urgetur, ne interiore defectu victus etiam cadat) qui primis sacramentis imbuendus est: et pu­ dore enim non dicit cur eat, et imbecillitate stare nou sinitur. Expertus hæc dico: nam fecit hoc quidam, cum eum catechizarem, homo rusticanus, unde ma­ gnopere praecavendum esse didici. Quis enim ferat arrogantiam nostram, cum viros' fralres nostros, vel eliam quod majore solliciludine curandum est, ut sint fratres nostri, coram nobis sedere non facimus; et ipsum Dominum nostrum, cui assistunt Angeli, sedens mulier audiebat? Sane si aut brevis sermo futurus est, aut consessui locus non est aptus, stantesaudiant; sed cum multi audiunt, et non tunc initiandi Nam cum unus, aut duo, aui pauci, qui propterea venerunt ut christiani fiant, pe­ riculose loquimur stantibus. Tamen si jam sic cœpimos. saltem animadverso auditoris tædio, et offe­ renda sessio est, iuto vero prorsus urgendus ut sedeat, et dicendum aliquid quo renovetur, quo etiam curas, si qua forte irruens eum avocare coeperat, fugiat ex animo. Cum enim causæ incertæ sint cur jam tacitus recuset audire, jam sedenti aliquid adversus inciden­ tes cogitationes sæcularium negotiorum dicatur, aut hilari, ut dixi, aut tristi modo: ut si ipsae sunt quae mentem occupaverunt, cedant quasi nominatim ac­ cusatæ; si autem ipsæ non sunt, et audicndo fatiga­ tus cst, cum de illis tanquam ipsæ sint (quandoqui­ dem ignoramus), inopinatum aliquid et extraordiua­ rium, eo modo quo dixi, loquimur, a tædio renovatur intentio. Sed et breve sit, maxime quia extra ordinem inseritur, ne morbum fastidii cui subvenire volumus eliam augeat ipsa medicina: et acceleranda sunt cætera, et promittendus atque exhibendus finis propinquior.

But indeed it is a great thing to persevere in speaking up to the set end when we do not see the hearer being moved; whether, constrained by religious fear, he does not dare to indicate his approval by voice or by some movement of the body, or is held back by human shyness, or does not understand what is said, or despises it. Since, as we cannot see his mind, it is uncertain, everything must be tried in our discourse that can serve to rouse him and, as it were, draw him out of hiding. For excessive fear, which hinders him from declaring his judgment, must be driven out by gentle encouragement; shyness must be tempered by suggesting brotherly fellowship; we must ask him whether he understands; and he must be given confidence, so that if anything seems to him to call for objection, he may freely say so. We should also ask him whether he has ever heard these things before, and whether perhaps they do not move him because they are known and commonplace; and we should act according to his answer, so as either to speak more plainly and clearly, or to refute a contrary opinion, or not to unfold at greater length what he knows but to fold it up briefly, and to choose some of the things said in a mystical sense in the holy Books, and especially in the narration itself, in opening and revealing which our discourse may grow sweet. But if he is very slow, and deaf and averse to all such sweetness, he must be borne with mercifully; and after briefly running through the other matters, the things most necessary, about the unity of the Catholic Church, about temptations, about the Christian way of life in view of the future judgment, must be driven home in a way that inspires awe; and more must be said to God for him than to him about God. It often happens, too, that one who at first listened gladly, tired either by listening or by standing, opens his lips no longer to praise but to yawn, and shows even against his will that he wants to go away. When we notice this, we ought either to refresh his mind by saying something seasoned with honest cheerfulness and suited to the matter in hand, or something very wonderful and astonishing, or even something grievous and lamentable, and preferably about himself, so that, stung by concern for himself, he may wake up; yet in a way that does not offend his modesty by any harshness but rather wins him by friendliness; or else we ought to help him by offering him a seat; although without doubt it is better, where it can be done fittingly, that he should listen seated from the beginning; and far more wisely, in some churches overseas, not only do the bishops speak to the people sitting, but seats are also provided for the people themselves, so that no weaker person, wearied by standing, may be turned away from a most wholesome attention, or even be forced to leave. And yet it makes a great difference whether someone withdraws from a great crowd to restore his strength who is already bound by sharing in the sacraments, or whether one leaves who is to be initiated into the first sacraments (for he is mostly forced to do so unavoidably, lest, overcome by inner weakness, he should even fall): for out of shame he does not say why he is going, and out of weakness he is not allowed to stand. I speak from experience: for a certain man, a countryman, did this when I was catechizing him, and from that I learned that this must be carefully guarded against. For who could bear our arrogance, when we do not have men who are our brothers, or, what is to be cared for with greater concern, who are to become our brothers, sit in our presence, when a woman sat and listened to our Lord himself, before whom the angels stand? Certainly, if the discourse is to be short, or the place is not suitable for sitting, let them listen standing; but that is when many are listening, and they are not then to be initiated. For when there are one, or two, or a few who have come in order to become Christians, it is risky to speak to them standing. Yet if we have already begun in this way, at least when we notice the hearer's weariness, a seat should be offered, or rather he should be positively urged to sit, and something should be said to refresh him, and also to chase from his mind any cares that may perhaps have rushed in and begun to call him away. For since the reasons why he now silently declines to listen are uncertain, once he is seated let something be said against the intruding thoughts of worldly business, either in a cheerful or, as I said, a sad manner: so that, if these are what have taken hold of his mind, they may give way as though accused by name; but if it is not these, and he is tired from listening, then when we speak of them as if it were they (since we do not know), saying something unexpected and out of the ordinary in the way I have described, his attention is refreshed from weariness. But let this be brief, especially since it is inserted out of order, lest the medicine itself increase the illness of weariness that we wish to relieve; and the rest should be hurried along, and a nearer end promised and delivered.

Luke 10:39 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: When a hearer seems unmoved or tired, the catechist should draw him out with questions, refresh him with something striking, and let him sit, as Mary sat at the Lord's feet, rather than make him stand.

  • The woman who sat listening to the Lord is Mary of Bethany (Luke 10:39). “Initiated into the first sacraments”: the rites given to those admitted as catechumens (the sign of the cross, salt, laying on of hands; see ch. 26). The “churches overseas” are probably in Italy, where Augustine had lived. The digital text has a few garbled words in this chapter (e.g. “viros' fralres”), translated by sense.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Cat. rud. 13 (PL 40:323–325; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-catechizandis-rudibus/9/#p-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 14

14PL 40:325–327

Si autem confregit ani­ mum tuum alterius actionis, cui tanquam magis ne­ cessariae jam suspensus eras, omissio, et propterea tristis insuaviter catechizas; cogitare debes, excepto quod scimus misericorditer nobis agendum esse quid­ quid cum hominibus agimus, et ex officio sinceris­ simae charitatis; hoc ergo excepto, incertum esse quid utilius agamus, et quid opportuniys aut inter­ mittamus, aut omnino omittamus. Quia enim merita hominum pro quibus agimus, qualia sint apud Deum non novimus, quid eis ad tempus expediat aut nulla aut tenuissima aut incertissima conjectura suspicamur potius, quam comprehendimus. Quapropter res qui­ dem agendas pro nostro captu ordinare debemus: quas eo modo quo statuimus, si peragere potuerimus, non ideo gaudeamus quia nobis, sed quia Deo sic eas agi placuit: si autem aliqua inciderit necessitas, qua noster ille ordo turbetur; flectamur facile, ne frangamur; ut quem Deus nostro (a) praeposuit, ipse sit no­ ster. Æquius est enim ut nos ejus, quam ut ille no­ stram voluntatem sequatur. Quia et ordo agendarum rerum, quem nostro arbitrio tenere volumus, ille uti­ que approbandus est, ubi jotiora præcedunt. Cur ergo nos dolemus homines a Domino Deo tanto po­ tiore præcedi, ut eo ipso quo nostrum amamus ordi­ nem, inordinati esse cupiamus? Nemo enim melius or­ dinat quid agat, nisi qui paratior est non agere quod divina potestate prohibetur, quam cupidior agere quod humana cogitatione meditatur. Quia multæ co­ gitationes sunt in corde viri, consilium autem Domim manet in æternum. Si vero ex aliquo scandalo perturbatus animus non valet edere serenum jucundumque sermonem, tantam esse charitatem oportet in cos pro quibus Christus mortuus est, volens eos pretio sanguinis sai ab errorum saecularium niorte redimere; at hoc ipsum quod nobis tristibus nuntiatur, præsto esse aliquem quidesiderct fieri christianus, ad consolationem illius resolutionemque tristitiae valere debeat, sicut solent lucrorum gaudia dolorem lenire damnorum. Non cnitn scandalum nos contristat alicujus, nisi quem perire aut pcr quem perire infirmam vel credimus vel videmus. Ille igitur qni initiandus advenit, dum speratur po se proficere, dolorem deficientis abster­ gat. Quia «t si timor ille suggeritur, lie fiat proselytus filius gehennæ, dum mulli tales versantur ante oculos, ex quibus oriuntur ca quibus urimur.caudata, non ad retardandos nos pertincre debet, sed magis ad excitandos et acuendos: quale­ nns quem imbuimus moneamus, ut caveat imitatio­ nem eorum qui non ipsa veritate, sed solo nomine christiani sunt; nec eorum turba commotus, aut sectari velit eos, aut Cbristum nolit sectari propter eos; et aut nolit esse in Ecclesia Dei uhi illi sunt, aut talis ibi velit esse quales illi sunt. Et nescio quo­ modo in hujusmodi monitis 1 ardentior sermo est, cui fomitem subministrat præsens dolor: ut non so­ lum pigriorcs non simus, sed co ipso dicamus accen­ sitis atque vehementius, quod securiores frigidius et lentius diceremus; gaudeamusque nobis occasionem dari, ubi motus animi nostri sinc fructificatione non transeat. Si autem de aliquo errato nostro vel peccato nos moestitudo comprehendit, non tantum memine­ rimus sacrificium Deu spiritum esse contribulatum, sed etiam illud, Quia sicut aqua ignem, sic eleemosyna exstinguit peccatum; et, Quia misericordiam, inquit, volo quam sacrificium 2. Sicut ergo si periclitaremUr incendio, ad aquam uti'tue curreremus, quo posset exstingui, et gratularemur si quis eam de proximo offerret; ita si de nostro feno aliqua peccati flamma surrexitJ, et propterea conturbamur, data occasione misericordis­ simi operis, tanquam de oblato fonte gaudeamus, ut inde illud quod exarserat opprimatur. Nisi forte tam Stulti sumus, ut alacrius arbitremur cum pane cur­ rendum, quo ventrem esurientis impleamus, quam cum verbo Dei, quo mentem istud edentis ' instrua­ mus. lluc accedit, quia si tantummodo prodesset hoc facere, non facere autem nibil obesset; infeliciter in periculo salutis, non jam proximi, sed nostræ, oblatum remedium sperneremus. Cum vero ex ore Domini tam minaciter sonet, Serve nequam et piger, dares pecuniam meam nummulariis; quæ tandem dementia est, quoniam peccatum nostrum nos angit, ideo rursus velle peccare, non dando pecuniam dominicam volenti et petenti? lIis atque hujusmodi cogitationibus et considerationibus depulsa caligine tædiorum, ad catechizandum aptatur intentio, ut suaviter imbibatur, quod impigre atque hilariter de charitatis ubertate prorumpit. Haec enim non tam ego tibi, quam omnibus nobis dicit 3 ipsa di. lectio, quae diffusa est in cordibus nostris per Spiritum sanctum qui datus est nobis.

But if your mind has been broken by having to leave another task, on which you were already intent as more necessary, and you are catechizing unpleasantly because you are sad, you ought to reflect that, apart from the fact that we know that whatever we do with people is to be done mercifully and out of the duty of the most sincere love, apart from this, then, it is uncertain what we are doing more usefully, and what we are more fittingly either interrupting or leaving undone altogether. For since we do not know what the merits of the people for whom we act are before God, what is good for them at the time we rather suspect, by no conjecture or a very slight or very uncertain one, than grasp. Therefore we ought to arrange the things to be done according to our understanding; and if we are able to carry them out in the way we determined, let us rejoice, not because it pleased us, but because it pleased God that they should be done so; but if some necessity arises by which that order of ours is disturbed, let us bend easily, so as not to break, so that the order which God has preferred to ours may itself be ours. For it is fairer that we should follow his will than that he should follow ours. Because that order of doing things which we wish to keep by our own choice is surely to be approved only where the better things come first. Why then do we grieve that men are preceded by the Lord God, who is so much better, so that by the very fact of loving our own order we desire to be disordered? For no one orders what he does better than one who is readier not to do what is forbidden by the divine power than eager to do what he plans by human thinking. For there are many thoughts in a man's heart, but the counsel of the Lord abides for ever. But if the mind, disturbed by some scandal, cannot produce a calm and pleasant discourse, there ought to be such love toward those for whom Christ died, wishing to redeem them by the price of his blood from the death of worldly errors, that this very news, brought to us in our sadness, that someone is here who wishes to become a Christian, ought to serve to console and dispel that sadness, as the joys of gains usually soften the pain of losses. For the scandal of someone does not sadden us unless we believe or see either that he is perishing or that a weak person is perishing through him. Let the one, then, who comes to be initiated, while he is hoped to make progress, wipe away the grief over the one who is falling away. For even if the fear is suggested that he may become a proselyte, a son of hell, since many such people are before our eyes, from whom arise those scandals with which we are burned, this ought not to serve to hold us back, but rather to rouse and sharpen us: so that we warn the one we are instructing to beware of imitating those who are Christians not in truth itself but in name only; and not, moved by their crowd, either to wish to follow them or to refuse to follow Christ because of them; and either to refuse to be in the Church of God where they are, or to wish to be there such as they are. And somehow in warnings of this kind the discourse is more ardent, when present grief supplies the kindling: so that we are not only not more sluggish, but by that very fact say more fervently and vehemently what, if we were more at ease, we would say more coldly and slowly; and let us rejoice that an occasion is given us where the movement of our mind does not pass away without bearing fruit. But if sorrow seizes us over some error or sin of our own, let us remember not only that a sacrifice to God is a troubled spirit, but also this: As water quenches fire, so almsgiving quenches sin; and, I desire mercy, he says, rather than sacrifice. Just as, then, if we were in danger from fire, we would of course run to water by which it could be put out, and would be grateful if someone offered it from nearby; so if some flame of sin has sprung up from our own hay, and we are troubled because of it, when the occasion of a most merciful work is given, let us rejoice as at a spring offered to us, so that what had flared up may be smothered by it. Unless perhaps we are so foolish as to think that we should run more eagerly with bread to fill the belly of a hungry man than with the word of God to instruct the mind of one who eats it. Add to this that, if it were only profitable to do this, and not doing it did no harm, it would still be a wretched thing for us to spurn the remedy offered when the salvation, not now of our neighbour but our own, is in danger. But since there sounds so threateningly from the mouth of the Lord, Wicked and slothful servant, you should have given my money to the bankers, what madness is it, because our sin distresses us, to wish to sin again by not giving the Lord's money to one who wishes it and asks for it? When the fog of weariness has been driven off by these and similar thoughts and considerations, the attention is fitted for catechizing, so that what bursts forth eagerly and cheerfully from the abundance of love may be drunk in with pleasure. For it is not so much I who say these things to you as love itself says them to all of us, love which has been poured out in our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.

Prov 19:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 23:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 51:17 (50:19 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Hos 6:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 9:13 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 3:12 (echo, low confidence) · Matt 25:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 5:5 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Sadness at an interrupted task, at others' scandals, or at one's own sins is to be overcome: God's order is better than ours, a new convert consoles grief over those who fall, and catechizing is itself a work of mercy that quenches sin.

  • “Many thoughts in a man's heart …”: Prov 19:21. “A proselyte, a son of hell”: Matt 23:15. “A sacrifice to God is a troubled spirit”: Ps 51:17 (50:19 LXX/Vulg.). “As water quenches fire, so almsgiving quenches sin”: Sir 3:30 (3:33 Vulg.). “I desire mercy rather than sacrifice”: Hos 6:6; Matt 9:13. “Our own hay”: cf. 1 Cor 3:12. “Wicked and slothful servant …”: Matt 25:26–27. “Love has been poured out in our hearts …”: Rom 5:5.

Extrabiblical texts: Sir 3:30 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Cat. rud. 14 (PL 40:325–327; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-catechizandis-rudibus/9/#p-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 15

15PL 40:327

Sed nunc etiam illud quod priusquam promitterem non debebam, jam fortasse debitum fla­ gitas, ut aliquod sermonis exemplum, tanquam si ego aliquem catechizem, non me pigeat explicare, et in­ tuendum tibi proponere Quod priusquam faciam, volo cogites aliam esse intentionem dictantis, cum lector futurus cogitatur; et aliam loquentis, cuti præsens auditor attenditur: et in eo ipso aliam in secreto mo­ nentis, dum nullus alius qui de nobis judicet pra sto est; aliam palam docentis aliquid, cum dissimiliter opinantium circumstat auditus: et in huc genere aliam, cum ducetur unus, cæteri autem tanq alii ju­ dicantes aut attestantes quæ sibi nota sunt audiunt; aliam cum omnes communiter quid ad eos profera­ mus exspectant: et rursus in hoc ipso aliam, cum quasi privatim consedetur, ut sermocinatio consera­ tur; aliam, cum populus tacens unum de loco supe­ riore dicturum suspensus intuetur: multumque in­ terest, et cum ila dicimus, utrum pauci adsint an multi; docti an indocti, an ex utroque gcnere mixti; urbani an rustici, an hi et illi simul; an populus ex omni hominum gcnere temperatus sit. Fieri enim non potest, nisi aliter atque aliter afik iant locuturum at­ que dicturum, et ut sermo qui profertur, affectionis animi a quo profertur, qucmdam quasi vultum Hera.., et pro eadem diversitate diversc afficiat auditores, cum et ipsi se ipsos diverse afficiant invicem prae­ sentia sua. Sed quia de rudibus imbuendis nunc agi­ mus, de me ipso tibi testis sum, aliter atque aliter me moveri, cum ante ine catechizandum video erudi­ lum, inertem, civem, peregrinum, divitem, pauperem, privatum, honoratum, in potestate aliqua consti­ tutum, illius aut illius gentis hominem, illius aut illius ætatis aut sexus, ex illa aut illa serta, ex illo aut illo vulgari errore venientem: ac pro diversitate mutus mei sermo ipse et procedit, et progreatur, et linitur. Et quia cum eadem omnibus debeatur cha­ ritas, non eadem est omnibus adhibenda medicina: ipsa item charitas alios parturit, cum aliis infirmatur; alios curat aedilicarc, alios contremiscit offendere; ad alios se inciinat, ad alios se erigit; aliis blanda, aliis severa, nulli inimica, omnibus mater. Et qui non expertus est eadem charitate quod dico, cum videt nos, quia facultas aliqua nobis donata delectat laudabiliter innotescere in ore multitudinis, inde nos beatos putat: Deus autem, in cujtis conspecturn in­ trat gemitus compeditorum, vi­ deat humilitatem nostram et laborem nostrum, et di­ mittat omnia peCcata nostra. Quam­ obrem si quid tibi in nobis placuit, ut aliquam observationem sermonis tui a nobis audire quæretes, melius videndo et audiendo nos cum hæc agimus, quam legendo cum hæc dictamus. edisceres.

But now perhaps you demand as already owed what I did not owe before I promised it: that I should not be reluctant to set out some model discourse, as if I were catechizing someone, and to put it before you to look at. Before I do this, I want you to reflect that the intention of one who dictates, when a future reader is in mind, is one thing, and that of one who speaks, when a present hearer is in view, is another; and within that, the intention of one who admonishes in private, when no one else is present to judge us, is one thing, and that of one who teaches something publicly, when the ears of people of differing opinions surround him, is another; and within this kind, it is one thing when one person is being taught and the rest listen as though judging or confirming things known to them, and another when all alike are waiting for what we will bring before them; and again within this, it is one thing when people sit together as if in private, so that conversation may be exchanged, and another when the people, silent and intent, gaze at one man about to speak from a raised place; and it makes a great difference, even when we speak in this way, whether few or many are present; learned or unlearned, or a mixture of both; city people or country people, or both together; or a congregation made up of every kind of person. For it cannot be but that they affect the one who is to speak and discourse in one way and another, and that the discourse which is uttered bears, as it were, a kind of expression of the feeling of the mind from which it is uttered, and by that same variety affects the hearers variously, since they too affect one another variously by their presence. But since we are now dealing with instructing the uninstructed, I can testify to you about myself that I am moved in one way and another when I see before me to be catechized a learned man, a dull man, a citizen, a foreigner, a rich man, a poor man, a private person, a man of rank, one set in some position of power, a man of this or that nation, of this or that age or sex, coming from this or that sect, from this or that popular error: and according to the variety of my feeling, the discourse itself both begins, goes on, and ends. And since the same love is owed to all, but the same medicine is not to be applied to all, that same love is in labour with some, is weak with others; takes care to build up some, trembles to offend others; bends down to some, lifts itself up to others; gentle to some, severe to others, an enemy to none, a mother to all. And one who has not experienced, with the same love, what I am saying, when he sees us, because some gift granted to us delights in becoming known with praise on the lips of the multitude, thinks us happy for that reason; but may God, into whose sight comes the groaning of the prisoners, see our humility and our toil, and forgive all our sins. Therefore, if anything in us has pleased you so much that you sought to hear from us some guidance for your discourse, you would learn it better by seeing and hearing us when we are doing these things than by reading when we are dictating them.

Gal 4:19 (echo, medium confidence) · 2 Cor 11:29 (echo, medium confidence) · Ps 79:11 (78:11 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 25:18 (24:18 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Before giving a model discourse, Augustine notes that speech varies with the audience, and that love adapts itself to each hearer, so his written example cannot fully show what is done in live speech.

  • “Love is in labour with some, weak with others”: cf. Gal 4:19; 2 Cor 11:29. “The groaning of the prisoners”: Ps 79:11 (78:11 LXX/Vulg.); “see our humility and our toil, and forgive all our sins”: Ps 25:18 (24:18 LXX/Vulg.).

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Cat. rud. 15 (PL 40:327; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-catechizandis-rudibus/9/#p-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text of the Open Greek and Latin project); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation of S. D. F. Salmond in NPNF¹ 3 (1887).