Against Faustus the Manichaean 14.1–15.1
Latin text: Zycha, CSEL 25.1 (Latin text: Joseph Zycha, Contra Faustum Manichaeum (CSEL 25.1, 1891), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: NPNF 1/4: Reply to Faustus the Manichaean (Philip Schaff, ed., 1887).
Chapter 14
14.1CSEL 25.1:401–404
DECIMUS. FAUSTUS dixit: Quare Moysen non accipitis? amoris pietatisque causa, qua colimus Christum. quis enim inreligiosus adeo est, ut eum libenter aspiciat, qui suo maledixerit patri? quapropter et nos Moysen, quamquam humanorum nulli umquam diuinorumque pepercerit blasphemando, plus tamen hinc execramur, quod Christum filium dei, qui nostrae salutis gratia pependit in ligno. diro deuotionis conuicio lacessiuit; utrum uolens, an casu, uideris. neutro enim horum excusatus erit, ut commendatus debeat accipi. ait enim maledictum esse omnem, qui pendet in ligno. hunc ergo tu uis ut accipiam, huic ut credam, cum si diuinus fuit, constet eum scientem uolentemque maledixisse Christo; si uero nolens nesciensque maledixerit, constet eum non fuisse diuinum. tu ergo elige utrumuis aut Moysen prophetam non fuisse et inprudentia peccasse, ut dum aliis ex more suo maledicit. nesciens blasphemauerit et deum, aut fuisse quidem diuinum nec futura haec ignorauisse. sed inuidentem tamen nostrae saluti. quae futura erat ex ligno, in eius auctorem maledici oris sui uenena prompsisse. et quis ergo credat hunc uidisse aut cognouisse patrem, qui sic lacerauerit filium? hunc aduentum filii potuisse praedicere, qui ascensionis eius ignorauerit exitum? huc accedit, quod illud etiam considero, quam late hoc sit sparsum conuicium quamque multa conprehendat et uiolet, ut omnes etiam tangat iustos et martyres, quotquot similis passionis exitu defuncti sunt uita, ut Petrus et Andreas ac reliqui eiusdem sortis. quos nisi Moyses aut ut non propheta nescisset aut ut malignus odisset, si fuit propheta. non tam crudae deuotionis contumelia lacerasset. neque enim uulgo saltem eos maledictos dicit, id est apud homines tantum sed maledictos deo. quod si ita est, unde iam benedictionis relinquetur spes uel Christo uel apostolis uel ipsis nobis, si nominis eius causa crucifigi contingat? quam denique inprudens erat et uacans inspiratione diuina, ut cogitare nequiuerit diuersis ex causis homines in ligno suspendi: alios quidem ob iniquum facinus, quosdam uero iustitiae causa et propter deum. idcircoque confuse omnes et sine discretione ulla sub idem coniecit maledictum, cum esset dicendum, si ei prudentia inesset ulla, non dicam diuinatio, et si adeo crux offenderat eum, ut sola excepta abdicataque esset ex omni genere punitionum, maledictum esse sceleratum et inpium omnem, qui pependisset in ligno, ut esset discretio aliqua inter iustos et iniustos; quamquam ne sic quidem uera dixisset, cum latronem Christus de ligno secum introduxit in paradisum patris sui. ubi est ergo maledictus omnis, qui pendet in ligno? an Barabbas latro ille insignis, qui non solum in ligno suspensus minime est, sed etiam Iudaeorum rogatu emissus e carcere, magis fuit benedictus quam ille, qui cum Christo de cruce ascendit in caelum? quid denique? quod etiam eum maledictum uocat, qui solem adorauerit aut lunam. si ergo sub gentili positus rege solem cogar adorare et, cum restitero maledictum hoc metuens, iubear crucifigi, in aliud eius incurram maledictum, quod aduersus eum deprompsit, qui pendet in ligno. an ipsi quidem bonis omnibus maledicere consuetum est? nos uero tanti deuotiones eius existimare debemus, quanti sunt stomachantium uetularum. sic enim et dei omnes pueros ac uirgines pari deuotione prosequitur dicens maledictum esse omnem, qui non suscitauerit semen in Israhel. quod aeque conuicium principaliter quidem Iesum tangit, qui ortus et ipse, ut dicitis, ex Iudaeis. nullam tamen inter eos seruandae posteritatis causa sobolem suscitauit. deinde et discipulos eius, quorum nonnullos quidem ab uxoribus seiunxit. quos copulatos inuenerat, quosdam uero et coniungi uetuit, quos deprehendit intactos. qua de re Moyseos inpunitam hanc linguam maledictorum iaculis Christum lumen, sanctimoniam, diuina omnia petentem iure nos cognoueris execratos. an ne forte multum interesse putes inter suspensum et crucifixum — nam et hoc in praesidium uobis defensionis soletis adsumere — commentis hisce uestris Paulum audias praescribentem: Christus nos redemit de maledicto legis factus pro nobis maledictum, quia scriptum est: maledictus omnis, qui pendet in ligno.
Tenth. Faustus said: “Why do you not accept Moses?” Because of the love and devotion with which we worship Christ. For who is so irreligious as to look gladly on one who has cursed his father? So we too, although Moses never spared anything human or divine in his blasphemy, execrate him all the more for this: that he assailed Christ the Son of God, who for our salvation hung on the tree, with the dreadful abuse of a curse; whether willingly or by chance, you must decide. For by neither will he be so excused as to deserve to be accepted as commended. For he says that everyone who hangs on a tree is cursed. Do you want me, then, to accept this man, to believe this man, when, if he was inspired, it is plain that he cursed Christ knowingly and willingly, and if he cursed him unwillingly and unknowingly, it is plain that he was not inspired? Choose, then, which you will: either that Moses was not a prophet and sinned through lack of foresight, so that while cursing others, as was his habit, he unknowingly blasphemed God too; or that he was indeed inspired and not ignorant of these things to come, but, grudging our salvation, which was to come from the tree, poured out the venom of his cursing mouth on its author. And who then would believe that this man saw or knew the Father, who so tore the Son? That he could foretell the coming of the Son, who did not know the outcome of his ascension? To this is added what I also consider, how widely this abuse is spread and how much it takes in and violates, so that it touches all the righteous and the martyrs too, as many as have ended their lives by a similar death, such as Peter and Andrew and the rest of the same lot. Unless Moses had either not known them, as being no prophet, or hated them, as being malicious if he was a prophet, he would not have torn them with the insult of so cruel a curse. For he does not even say that they are cursed in the common opinion, that is, merely among men, but cursed by God. And if so, what hope of blessing will be left either to Christ or to the apostles or to us ourselves, should it befall us to be crucified for his name's sake? Finally, how lacking in foresight he was, and empty of divine inspiration, that he could not consider that men are hanged on a tree for different reasons: some for a wicked crime, but some for righteousness' sake and for God. And for that reason he threw all together, without any distinction, under the same curse, when he should have said, if he had had any foresight, not to say divination, and if the cross had so offended him that it alone of every kind of punishment was singled out and rejected: “Cursed is every criminal and impious man who has hung on a tree,” so that there might be some distinction between the righteous and the unrighteous. Although even so he would not have spoken the truth, since Christ brought a robber from the tree with him into the paradise of his Father. Where, then, is “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”? Or was Barabbas, that notable robber, who not only was not hanged on a tree but was even released from prison at the request of the Jews, more blessed than the one who ascended with Christ from the cross into heaven? What more? He also calls him cursed who worships the sun or the moon. If, then, placed under a Gentile king, I am compelled to worship the sun, and, when I resist for fear of this curse, am ordered to be crucified, I shall run into his other curse, which he brought out against the one who hangs on a tree. Or is he in the habit of cursing all good people? We, for our part, ought to value his curses as much as those of angry old women. For in the same way he pursues all God's boys and virgins with an equal curse, saying: “Cursed is everyone who has not raised up seed in Israel.” This abuse likewise touches Jesus first of all, who, though himself born, as you say, of the Jews, yet raised up no offspring among them to preserve a posterity; and then his disciples, some of whom he separated from their wives, finding them married, and some of whom he forbade to marry, finding them untouched. For this reason you will understand that we rightly execrate this unpunished tongue of Moses, aiming darts of curses at Christ, the light, holiness, everything divine. Or if perhaps you think there is a great difference between one hanged and one crucified (for you are accustomed to take this up too as a safeguard for your defence), hear Paul ruling out these inventions of yours: “Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us, because it is written: Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree.”
Deut 21:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 23:43 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 27:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 27:21 (allusion, high confidence) · Deut 17:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Deut 25:5 (allusion, low confidence) · Gal 3:13 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Faustus rejects Moses for cursing everyone who hangs on a tree, which he says curses Christ and the martyrs, and for cursing those who raise no offspring.
- “Tenth” (decimus) is Faustus's own numbering. Faustus speaks as a Manichaean; his attack on Moses is translated as written.
- “Cursed is everyone who has not raised up seed in Israel” is not found in these words in the Pentateuch; it seems to be a summary of the levirate law of Deut 25:5–10.
- The curse on sun and moon worship is Deut 17:2–5 (cf. Deut 4:19). The Manichaeans themselves honoured the sun and moon, as Augustine notes in 14.11.
Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy, Martyrdom
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 14.1 (CSEL 25.1:401–404; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/14-1/#p-14-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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14.2CSEL 25.1:404
AUGUSTINUS respondit: Pius homo Faustus dolet Christum esse maledictum a Moyse et ob hoc odit Moysen, quia diligit Christum. interim, antequam aperiam, in quam magno sacramento et quam pie dictum sit: maledictus omnis, qui in ligno pependerit, istos pios homines interrogo, cur irascantur Moysi. quandoquidem maledictum eius ad Christum istorum non peruenerit. si enim Christus pependit in ligno, clauis utique adfixus est: unde etiam ipsas cicatrices post resurrectionem discipulo minus credulo demonstrauit. quod si ita est, utique uulnerabile atque mortale corpus habuit, quod isti nolunt fateri. si ergo et illa uulnera et illae cicatrices falsae erant, falsum est et quod pependit in ligno. non itaque potuit ad eum illa maledictio peruenire, non est, quod suscenseant ei, a cuius ore processit. itaque si ipsi irasci se fingunt ei, qui maledixerit falsae morti Christi, quod secundum ipsos dixerim: quomodo fugiendi sunt, qui non maledicunt Christum. sed quod est execrabilius. criminantur? si enim criminantur est accipiendus, qui maledictum ingerit mortalitati, quomodo est detestandus, qui fallaciam obicit ueritati? sed iam uideamus ex occasione calumniantium haereticorum. quomodo illud sacramentum fidelibus exponatur.
Augustine replied: Faustus, devout man, grieves that Christ is cursed by Moses, and hates Moses for this because he loves Christ. Meanwhile, before I disclose how great a sacrament lies in the words, and how devoutly it was said, “Cursed is everyone who has hung on a tree,” I ask these devout men why they are angry with Moses, since his curse did not reach their Christ. For if Christ hung on a tree, he was certainly fixed with nails; which is why after the resurrection he showed the very scars to a disciple slow to believe. And if so, he certainly had a body capable of wounds and mortal, which these men will not admit. If, then, those wounds and those scars were false, it is false too that he hung on a tree. So that curse could not reach him; there is no reason for them to be angry with the one from whose mouth it came. So if they pretend to be angry with one who has cursed a false death of Christ, speaking on their own premises, how much more are they to be shunned, who do not curse Christ but, what is more execrable, accuse him? For if one who brings a curse on mortality is to be rejected, how much more is one to be detested who charges the truth with deceit? But now let us see, taking the occasion from the slanders of the heretics, how that sacrament is to be explained to the faithful.
Deut 21:23 (quotation, high confidence) · John 20:27 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine replies that, since the Manichaeans deny Christ had a real body and real wounds, the curse on hanging could not touch their Christ, and that charging Christ with deceit is worse than any curse.
- The Manichaeans held that Christ's body, suffering and death were not real; Augustine argues from Thomas's doubt (John 20:27).
- The digital text reads “si enim criminantur est accipiendus” (“criminantur” apparently repeated from the line before); translated by sense as “if one … is not to be accepted.”
Topics: Christology, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 14.2 (CSEL 25.1:404; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/14-1/#p-14-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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14.3CSEL 25.1:404–405
Mors hominis ex poena peccati est: unde et ipsa peccatum dicitur, non quia peccat homo, dum moritur. sed quia ex peccato factum est. ut moriatur; sicut alio modo dicitur lingua proprie caro, quae intra dentes sub palato mouetur. et alio modo dicitur lingua. quod per linguam fit; secundum quem modum dicitur alia lingua graeca, alia latina. et manus alio modo dicitur ipsum proprie corporis membrum, quod mouemus ad operandum. et alio modo manus dicitur scriptura, quae fit per manum. dicimus enim: "prolata est manus eius" "lecta est aduersus eum manus eius" "habeo manum tuam" "recipe manum tuam." manus utique proprie membrum est hominis. non autem opinor illam scripturam membrum esse hominis; et tamen dicitur manus, eo quod manu facta sit. sic et peccatum non tantum ipsum opus malum, quod poena dignum est. sed etiam ipsa mors, quae peccato facta est, peccatum appellatum est. illud itaque peccatum, quo reus esset mortis, non commisit Christus; illud autem alterum, id est mortem, quae peccato inflicta est humanae naturae, suscepit pro nobis. hoc suspendit in ligno, hoc maledictum est per Moysen; ibi mors damnata est, ne regnaret, et maledicta est, ut periret. quapropter per Christi tale peccatum damnatum est et nostrum peccatum. ut nos liberaremur, ne regnante peccato nos damnati remaneremus.
Man's death comes from the punishment of sin; hence it is also itself called sin, not because a man sins when he dies, but because it came about from sin that he dies. In the same way “tongue” is said properly in one sense of the flesh that moves within the teeth under the palate, and in another sense of what is done by the tongue; in this sense one speaks of one tongue being Greek, another Latin. And “hand” is said in one sense properly of the very member of the body which we move to work, and in another sense of the writing that is done by the hand. For we say, “His hand has been produced,” “His hand has been read against him,” “I have your hand,” “Take back your hand.” Properly, of course, the hand is a member of a man; but I do not suppose that writing is a member of a man; and yet it is called a hand, because it is made by the hand. So too not only the evil act itself, which deserves punishment, is called sin, but also death itself, which came about through sin. That sin, then, by which he would be liable to death, Christ did not commit; but that other, that is death, which was inflicted on human nature through sin, he took on for us. This hung on the tree; this was cursed through Moses; there death was condemned, so that it might not reign, and cursed, so that it might perish. Therefore through such a sin of Christ our sin too was condemned, so that we might be set free and not remain condemned with sin reigning.
Rom 8:3 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 6:12 (allusion, low confidence)
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Summary: Augustine explains that death, the punishment of sin, is itself called sin, and that Christ took on not our sin but our death, which was cursed and condemned on the cross.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 14.3 (CSEL 25.1:404–405; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/14-1/#p-14-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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14.4CSEL 25.1:405–406
Quid ergo miratur Faustus maledictum esse peccatum, maledictam esse mortem, maledictam esse mortalitatem carnis sine peccato Christi, ex peccato tamen hominis etiam in Christo factam? ex Adam quippe corpus adsumpsit, quia ex Adam uirgo Maria, quae peperit Christum. dixerat autem deus in paradiso: qua die tetigeritis, morte moriemini. hoc est maledictum, quod pependit in ligno. ille neget Christum maledictum, qui negat et mortuum; qui autem confitetur et mortuum et negare non potest mortem de peccato esse et ob hoc etiam ipsam peccatum uocari, audiat apostolum dicentem: quoniam uetus homo noster simul cum illo crucifixus est, et intellegat, quem male dictum Moyses dixerit ideoque securus apostolus ait de Christo: factus est pro nobis male dictum, sicut non timuit dicere: pro omnibus mortuus est. hoc est enim mortuus est, quod maledictus quoniam mors ipsa ex maledicto est et maledictum est omne peccatum, siue ipsum, quod fit, ut sequatur subplicium, siue ipsum subplicium, quod alio modo uocatur peccatum, quia fit ex peccato. suscepit autem Christus sine reatu subplicium nostrum, ut inde solueret reatum nostrum et finiret etiam subplicium nostrum.
Why then does Faustus marvel that sin is cursed, that death is cursed, that the mortality of the flesh is cursed, which was in Christ without sin, yet came about from man's sin even in Christ? For he took his body from Adam, since the virgin Mary, who bore Christ, was from Adam. And God had said in paradise: “On the day you touch it, you shall die by death.” This is the curse that hung on the tree. Let him deny that Christ was cursed who denies also that he died; but let him who confesses that he died, and cannot deny that death comes from sin and for this reason is itself also called sin, hear the apostle saying: “For our old man was crucified together with him,” and let him understand whom Moses called cursed. And so the apostle says without fear of Christ, “He was made a curse for us,” just as he was not afraid to say, “He died for all.” For “he died” is the same as “he was cursed,” since death itself comes from the curse, and every sin is cursed, whether the sin itself that is done so that punishment follows, or the punishment itself, which in another sense is called sin because it comes from sin. Christ, however, took on our punishment without guilt, so that by it he might dissolve our guilt and also end our punishment.
Gen 2:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 3:3 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 6:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 3:13 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 5:15 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine argues that Christ, taking real flesh from Adam through Mary, took on the curse of death without guilt, to end both our guilt and our punishment.
- Gen 2:17 / 3:3 is quoted loosely, with “touch” from Gen 3:3.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 14.4 (CSEL 25.1:405–406; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/14-1/#p-14-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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14.5CSEL 25.1:406–407
E; ingenio meo ista dixerim, si non apostolus totiens hoc inculcat, ut et dormientes excitet et calumniantes offocet. misit, inquit, deus filium suum in similitudinem carnis peccati, ut de peccato damnaret peccatum in carne. non erat ergo illa caro peccati, quia non de traduce mortalitatis in Mariam per masculum uenerat; sed tamen quia de peccato est mors, illa autem caro quamuis ex uirgine, tamen mortalis fuit, eo ipso, quo mortalis erat, similitudinem habebat carnis peccati. hoc appellat etiam peccatum consequenter dicens: ut de peccato damnaret peccatum in carne. item alio loco: eum, inquit, qui non nouerat peccatum, peccatum pro nobis fecit, ut nos simus iustitia dei in ipso. cur ergo timeret Moyses dicere maledictum. quod Paulus non timuit dicere peccatum? plane hoc propheta et praeuidere debuit et praedicere, paratus ab haereticis cum apostolo reprehendi. quisquis enim reprehenderit prophetam dixisse maledictum. cogitur reprehendere apostolum dixisse peccatum; nam utique maledictum comes peccati est.
I might be saying this from my own ingenuity, were it not that the apostle presses it home so often, both to wake the sleeping and to choke the slanderers. “God sent his Son,” he says, “in the likeness of sinful flesh, so that from sin he might condemn sin in the flesh.” That flesh, then, was not sinful flesh, because it had not come into Mary through a male by inheritance of mortality; but yet, because death is from sin, and that flesh, though from a virgin, was mortal, by the very fact that it was mortal it had the likeness of sinful flesh. This he even calls sin, saying in what follows: “so that from sin he might condemn sin in the flesh.” Again, in another place he says: “Him who knew no sin he made sin for us, so that we might be the righteousness of God in him.” Why then should Moses be afraid to say “curse” of what Paul was not afraid to call “sin”? Plainly the prophet must both have foreseen and foretold this, prepared to be blamed by heretics along with the apostle. For whoever blames the prophet for saying “curse” is compelled to blame the apostle for saying “sin”; for certainly a curse is the companion of sin.
Rom 8:3 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 5:21 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine cites Paul, who calls Christ's mortal flesh the likeness of sinful flesh and says Christ was made sin, so Moses may rightly call him cursed.
- The first words of the digital text (“E; ingenio”) are damaged; translated by sense as “from my own ingenuity.”
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 14.5 (CSEL 25.1:406–407; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/14-1/#p-14-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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14.6CSEL 25.1:407–408
Nec ideo maior inuidia est, quod addiderit: deo, ut diceret: maledictus deo omnis, qui pependerit in ligno. nisi enim deus odisset peccatum et mortem nostram, non ad eam suscipiendam atque delendam filium suum mitteret. quid ergo mirum, si maledictum est deo, quod odit deus? tanto enim libentius nobis donat inmortalitatem, quae futura est Christo ueniente, quanto misericordius odit mortem nostram, quae in ligno pependit Christo moriente. quod autem additum est: omnis, ut diceretur: maledictus omnis qui in ligno pependerit, non sane Moyses minus praeuidit etiam iustos in cruce futuros, sed bene praeuidit haereticos ueram mortem domini negaturos et ideo uolentes ab hoc maledicto Christum seiungere, ut a mortis etiam ueritate seiungerent. si enim uera illa mors non erat. nullum maledictum Christo crucifixo pependit in ligno, quia nec uere crucifixus est. sed contra longe futuros haereticos quam de longe clamat Moyses " sine causa tergiuersamini," quibus displicet ueritas mortis Christi. maledictus omnis, qui pendet in ligno; non ille aut ille, sed omnis omnino! etiamne et filius dei? etiam prorsus. nam hoc est, quod non uultis: inde satagitis, inde seducitis. displicet enim uobis maledictus pro nobis, quia displicet mortuus pro nobis: tunc enim extra maledictum illius Adam, si extra illius mortem. cum uero ex homine et pro homine mortem suscepit, ex illo et pro illo etiam maledictum, quod morti comitatur, suscipere non dedignatus est etiam ille, prorsus etiam ille filius dei semper uiuus in sua iustitia, mortuus autem propter delicta nostra in carne suscepta ex poena nostra. sic et semper benedictus in sua iustitia, maledictus autem propter delicta nostra in morte suscepta ex poena nostra. ac per hoc additum est: omnis, ne Christus ad ueram mortem non pertinere diceretur, si a maledicto, quod morti coniunctum est, insipienti honorificentia separaretur.
Nor is the offence greater because he added “by God,” so as to say: “Cursed by God is everyone who has hung on a tree.” For if God did not hate sin and our death, he would not send his Son to take it on and destroy it. What wonder, then, if what God hates is cursed by God? For he gives us immortality, which is to come when Christ comes, all the more gladly as he more mercifully hates our death, which hung on the tree when Christ died. And as for the addition of “everyone,” so that it was said, “Cursed is everyone who has hung on a tree,” Moses certainly did not fail to foresee that righteous men too would be on the cross; rather he foresaw well that heretics would deny the Lord's true death, and therefore would wish to separate Christ from this curse so as to separate him also from the truth of death. For if that death was not true, no curse hung on the tree with Christ crucified, since he was not truly crucified either. But against heretics far in the future, see how from far off Moses cries out to you who are displeased by the truth of Christ's death: “You are evading in vain. Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”; not this one or that, but absolutely everyone! Even the Son of God? Yes, absolutely. For this is what you do not want; this is why you busy yourselves, this is why you lead astray. For he displeases you as cursed for us, because he displeases you as dead for us; for he would be outside the curse of that Adam, if he were outside his death. But since he took on death from man and for man, he did not disdain to take on from him and for him the curse too that accompanies death; even he, yes, even he the Son of God, ever living in his own righteousness, but dead for our offences in the flesh taken on from our punishment. So also he is ever blessed in his own righteousness, but cursed for our offences in the death taken on from our punishment. And for this reason “everyone” was added, so that it should not be said that Christ had no part in true death, if he were separated by foolish reverence from the curse that is joined to death.
Deut 21:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 4:25 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine says Moses wrote “everyone” to forestall heretics who would deny Christ's true death by exempting him from the curse.
- The words “by God” come from the Latin and Greek of Deut 21:23.
- The clause “sed contra longe futuros haereticos quam de longe clamat Moyses” is awkward in the digital text; translated by sense.
Topics: Christology, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 14.6 (CSEL 25.1:407–408; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/14-1/#p-14-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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14.7CSEL 25.1:408–409
Qui autem ex ueritate euangelica fidelis est, intellegit tam non esse contumeliam Christi ex ore Moysi, cum eum dixit maledictum, non ex diuinitate maiestatis suae, sed ex condicione poenae nostrae, ex qua in ligno suspensus est, quam non est laus Christi ex ore Manichaeorum, cum eum negant carnem habuisse mortalem, in qua ueram mortem pateretur, quia ex illo prophetico maledicto laus intellegitur humilitatis, ex isto haeretico quasi honore crimen obicitur falsitatis. si ergo negas maledictum, nega mortuum; si negas mortuum, non iam contra Moysen, sed contra apostolos dimicas. si autem confiteris mortuum, confitere suscepisse poenam peccati nostri sine peccato nostro. iam uero ubi audis poenam peccati, aut ex benedictione crede uenientem aut ex maledictione. si ex benedictione uenit poena peccati, opta esse semper in poena peccati; si autem optas inde liberari, crede per diuinae sententiae iustitiam ex maledictione uenisse. confitere ergo maledictum suscepisse pro nobis, quem confiteris mortuum esse pro nobis, nec aliud significare uoluisse Moysen, cum diceret: maledictus omnis, qui in ligno pependerit, nisi "mortalis omnis et moriens omnis, qui in ligno pependerit." poterat enim dicere "maledictus omnis qui mortalis, " aut "maledictus omnis moriens;" sed hoc est quod adserit propheta, quia sciebat Christi mortem in cruce pensuram et futuros haereticos, qui dicerent: "pependit quidem in ligno, sed specie quadam. non ut uere moreretur." clamando ergo maledictus nihil aliud clamauit, nisi quia uere mortuus, sciens mortem hominis peccatoris, quam sine peccato ipse suscepit, de illo maledicto uenientem. quo dictum est: si tetigeritis. morte moriemini. ad hoc pertinet et serpens ille in ligno suspensus, quo significaretur non falsam mortem Christum finxisse. sed illam ueram in ligno passionis suae suspendisse. in quam serpens ille hominem male suadendo deiecit. quam ueram mortem nolunt isti conspicere et ideo non sanantur a ueneno serpentis, sicut in heremo quicumque illam adtenderent sanabantur. *
But whoever believes from the truth of the gospel understands that it is no more an insult to Christ from the mouth of Moses, when he called him cursed, not from the divinity of his majesty but from the condition of our punishment, in which he was hanged on the tree, than it is praise of Christ from the mouth of the Manichaeans, when they deny that he had mortal flesh in which to suffer a true death. For in that prophetic curse one understands praise of humility, while in this heretical so-called honour he is charged with the crime of falsehood. If, then, you deny that he was cursed, deny that he died; if you deny that he died, you are fighting no longer against Moses but against the apostles. But if you confess that he died, confess that he took on the punishment of our sin without our sin. Now when you hear “the punishment of sin,” believe that it comes either from blessing or from curse. If the punishment of sin comes from blessing, wish to be always in the punishment of sin; but if you wish to be freed from it, believe that it came from the curse, by the justice of the divine sentence. Confess, then, that he took on the curse for us whom you confess to have died for us; and that Moses meant nothing else when he said, “Cursed is everyone who has hung on a tree,” but “Mortal is everyone and dying is everyone who has hung on a tree.” For he could have said, “Cursed is everyone who is mortal,” or “Cursed is everyone dying”; but this is what the prophet asserts, because he knew that Christ's death would hang on the cross, and that there would be heretics who would say: “He hung on the tree indeed, but in a kind of appearance, not so as truly to die.” By crying out “cursed,” then, he cried out nothing else than that he truly died, knowing that the death of sinful man, which he himself took on without sin, comes from that curse in which it was said: “If you touch it, you shall die by death.” To this also belongs that serpent hanged on a tree, by which it was signified that Christ did not feign a false death, but hung on the tree of his passion that true death into which the serpent cast man by evil persuasion. This true death these men will not look at, and therefore they are not healed of the serpent's venom, as in the desert all who looked at that serpent were healed.
Deut 21:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 3:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Num 21:9 (allusion, high confidence) · John 3:14 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine argues that Moses' word “cursed” affirms Christ's true death, which the bronze serpent also prefigured, and that the Manichaeans, refusing to look at it, are not healed.
Topics: Christology, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 14.7 (CSEL 25.1:408–409; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/14-1/#p-14-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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14.8CSEL 25.1:409
Itaque fatemur ab inperitis dici aliud esse adfigi ligno. aliud in ligno pendere. sic enim quidam putant soluendam esse istam quaestionem, ut Iudam dicant a Moyse maledictum, qui laqueo se suspendit. quasi primum nouerint, utrum ex ligno, an ex lapide se ille suspenderit. sed uerum est, quod et Faustus commemorauit apostolum non sinere aliud intellegere quam de Christo esse praedictum. sed talis inperitia nonnullorum catholicorum uenatio Manichaeorum est; tales enim solent insectari, tales suis fallaciis inretire. tales in eos cecideramus. tales haeseramus, tales non uiribus nostris, sed dei misericordia eruti sumus.
And so we admit that the unlearned say that being fixed to a tree is one thing and hanging on a tree another. For some think that this question should be solved by saying that Moses cursed Judas, who hanged himself with a noose; as if they first knew whether he hanged himself from a tree or from a stone. But it is true, as Faustus also mentioned, that the apostle does not allow it to be understood as foretold of anyone but Christ. But such lack of learning in some Catholics is the Manichaeans' hunting ground; for such people they usually pursue, such they entangle in their deceits. As such we had fallen among them, as such we had stuck fast, as such we were rescued, not by our own strength but by the mercy of God.
Matt 27:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Gal 3:13 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine rejects the unlearned Catholic solution that Moses' curse refers to Judas, since Paul applies it to Christ, and notes that such weak answers had once made him a prey of the Manichaeans.
- Augustine recalls his own years as a Manichaean hearer.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: l for I): ut ludam dicant → ut Iudam dicant.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 14.8 (CSEL 25.1:409; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/14-1/#p-14-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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14.9CSEL 25.1:409–410
Quae autem diuina Moyses lacessiuit, sicut Faustus criminatur dicens, quod humanorum nulli umquam diuinorumque pepercerit? dixit enim et abiit: nihil sategit probare,. nihil curauit ostendere. nos autem scimus Moysen omnia uere diuina pie laudasse et pro sui temporis congruentia suaeque dispensationis gratia iuste humana rexisse. exigant isti, ut hoc doceam, cum et ipsi docere conati fuerint, quod Faustus obicit, caute quidem, ut erat acutus, sed hoc incautus, quia suo acumine se perimebat. felix enim cor acutum ad ueritatem, infelix contra ueritatem. non dixit "hominum nulli umquam deorumque pepercerit." sed "humanorum," inquit, "et diuinorum." si enim diceret eum deo non pepercisse, facile conuinceretur falsae criminationis, cum Moyses inueniretur ubique honorare ac praedicare deum uerum, qui fecit caelum et terram. si autem diceret nulli deorum pepercisse, proderet se christianis illos deos colere, a quibus adorandis Moyses prohibet, atque ita sub alas catholicae matris pullis fugientibus non congregaret, quae non peperit. ut ergo insidias tenderet paruulis, dixit diuinorum nulli pepercisse Moysen, quo possent neque christiani aperto deorum cultu fugere inpietatem istorum nimis abhorrentem a religione christiana et pagani eis fauere aduersus nos, qui Moysen scirent contra idola et contra deos gentium, quae sunt daemonia, multa uera et digna dixisse.
But what divine things did Moses assail, as Faustus charges when he says that he never spared anything human or divine? For he said it and went off: he took no trouble to prove it, he did not care to show it. But we know that Moses devoutly praised all things truly divine and justly governed human things as suited his time and his stewardship. Let them demand that I teach this, when they too have tried to teach what Faustus alleges; he did it cautiously, sharp as he was, but incautiously in this, that he was killing himself with his own sharpness. For a heart sharp for the truth is happy, sharp against the truth unhappy. He did not say, “He never spared any man or any god,” but “anything human,” he says, “or divine.” For if he had said that he did not spare God, he would easily have been convicted of a false charge, since Moses is found everywhere honouring and proclaiming the true God who made heaven and earth. And if he had said that he spared none of the gods, he would have betrayed to Christians that he worships those gods from whose worship Moses forbids; and so he would not gather what he did not hatch, the chicks fleeing under the wings of their Catholic mother. So to lay snares for little ones he said that Moses spared nothing divine, so that Christians would not flee from these men's impiety by an open worship of gods, too abhorrent from the Christian religion, and so that pagans, who knew that Moses had said many true and fitting things against idols and against the gods of the Gentiles, which are demons, would favour them against us.
Jer 17:11 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 23:37 (allusion, medium confidence) · Ps 96:5 (95:5 LXX) (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 10:20 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Augustine notes that Faustus said Moses spared nothing “divine” rather than God or the gods, to avoid an open charge that would expose him to Christians while winning pagan sympathy.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 14.9 (CSEL 25.1:409–410; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/14-1/#p-14-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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14.10CSEL 25.1:410–411
Quod si istis displicet, aperte se fateantur idolorum uel daemoniorum esse cultores: quod quidem ignoranter essent eo ipso solo, quod essent haeretici. de talibus enim dixit apostolus: quia in nouissimis temporibus recedent quidam a fide, intendentes spiritibus seductoribus, doctrinis daemoniorum in hypocrisi mendaciloquorum. qui enim nisi daemones. quibus est amica fallacia, istis persuaderent, quod Christus fallaciter passus, fallaciter mortuus sit, fallaciter cicatrices ostenderit, id est non uere passus nec uere mortuus sit nec illae uerae fuerint ex ueris uulneribus cicatrices? quae sunt euidentiores doctrinae mendaciloquorum daemoniorum quam istae,, quibus persuadetur filium dei, id est ipsam ueritatem esse mendacem? sed isti in doctrina sua habent et apertam non quidem daemoniorum, sed tamen creaturae culturam, quam damnat apostolus dicens: et coluerunt et seruierunt creaturae potius quam creatori.
And if this displeases them, let them openly confess that they are worshippers of idols or demons; which indeed they would be unknowingly, by the very fact alone that they were heretics. For of such the apostle said: “In the last times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, to doctrines of demons, in the hypocrisy of liars.” For who but demons, to whom deceit is dear, would persuade these men that Christ suffered deceitfully, died deceitfully, showed his scars deceitfully, that is, did not truly suffer nor truly die, nor were those true scars from true wounds? What doctrines of lying demons are more evident than these, by which men are persuaded that the Son of God, that is, truth itself, is a liar? But these men have in their doctrine an open worship, not indeed of demons, but still of the creature, which the apostle condemns, saying: “And they worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator.”
1 Tim 4:1 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 4:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:25 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine calls the Manichaean teaching that Christ's suffering was unreal a doctrine of demons, and charges them with worshipping the creature.
Topics: Heresy, Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 14.10 (CSEL 25.1:410–411; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/14-1/#p-14-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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14.11CSEL 25.1:411–412
Proinde isti in phantasmatis fabularum suarum idola et daemonia nescientes colunt; in sole autem et luna nouerunt se seruire creaturae. et quod putant se etiam creatori seruire, multum falluntur; phantasmati enim suo seruiunt, creatori autem nullo modo seruiunt, quando ea negant deum creasse, quae aperte apostolus ad dei creaturam pertinere demonstrat dicens, cum de cibis et carnibus ageret: omnis enim creatura dei bona est, et nihil abiciendum, quod cum gratiarum actione percipitur. uidete, quid sit sana doctrina, quam non ferentes uos ad fabulas conuertistis. quomodo apostolus et creaturam dei laudat et ei tamen cultum religionis exhiberi uetat, sic et Moyses, qui uobis uidetur nulli diuinorum pepercisse — non ob aliud suspicor, nisi quia solem et lunam uetuit adorari, ad quorum circuitum uos per omnes angulos uertitis, ut eos adoretis — solem et lunam uera laude laudauit, cum eos factos a deo et in caelesti ordine ad peragenda sua opera conlocatos, sicut est, ita narrauit: solem in potestatem diei, lunam in potestatem noctis. falsis autem uestris laudibus sol et luna non gaudent. diabolus nouit falsa laude gaudere, praeuaricatrix creatura. potestates uero caelorum, quae peccato non lapsae sunt, artificem suum in se laudari uolunt: quarum illa uera laus est. qua creatori illarum non fit iniuria. fit autem, cum dicitur, quod partes eius sunt aut membra eius aut aliquid substantiae ipsius. ille enim perfectus et nullius indigens et nusquam defluens neque discissus neque per loca distentus apud se totus incommutabilis sibique sufficiens. se ipso beatus propter abundantiam bonitatis per uerbum suum dixit et facta sunt; mandauit, et creata sunt. proinde si terrestria corpora, de quibus loquebatur apostolus. cum cibum nullum inmundum diceret, bona sunt, quia omnis creatura dei bona est: quanto magis caelestia, in quibus excellunt sol et luna. cum ipse apostolus dicat: corpora caelestia et corpora terrestria; sed alia est caelestium gloria, alia terrestrium.
So these men unknowingly worship idols and demons in the phantoms of their fables; but in the sun and moon they know that they serve the creature. And in thinking that they also serve the Creator, they are much deceived; for they serve their own phantom, and in no way serve the Creator, since they deny that God created what the apostle plainly shows to belong to God's creation, when he says, speaking of foods and meats: “For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be rejected that is received with thanksgiving.” See what sound doctrine is, which you could not bear and so turned to fables. Just as the apostle both praises God's creation and yet forbids that religious worship be shown to it, so too Moses, who seems to you to have spared nothing divine (for no other reason, I suspect, than that he forbade the worship of the sun and moon, toward whose course you turn into every corner to worship them), praised the sun and moon with true praise, when he told, as it is, that they were made by God and set in the heavenly order to perform their works: the sun to rule the day, the moon to rule the night. But the sun and moon do not rejoice in your false praises. The devil, the transgressing creature, knows how to rejoice in false praise. But the powers of heaven which did not fall through sin want their Maker to be praised in them; and that is their true praise, by which no wrong is done to their Creator. But wrong is done when it is said that they are his parts, or his members, or something of his substance. For he, perfect and in need of nothing, never flowing away, neither divided nor stretched out through places, whole in himself, unchangeable and sufficient for himself, blessed in himself, because of the abundance of his goodness spoke through his Word and they were made; he commanded, and they were created. So if earthly bodies, of which the apostle was speaking when he said that no food is unclean, are good because every creature of God is good, how much more the heavenly ones, in which the sun and moon excel, since the same apostle says: “Heavenly bodies and earthly bodies; but the glory of the heavenly is one, and that of the earthly another.”
1 Tim 4:4 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 4:3 (allusion, medium confidence) · 2 Tim 4:4 (allusion, medium confidence) · Gen 1:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 148:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 33:9 (32:9 LXX) (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 14:14 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 15:40 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine says the Manichaeans worship the sun and moon and imaginary beings, while Moses rightly praised the sun and moon as God's creatures without making them parts of God.
- The Manichaeans turned in prayer toward the sun by day and the moon by night and held them to contain divine light.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 14.11 (CSEL 25.1:411–412; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/14-1/#p-14-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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14.12CSEL 25.1:412–414
Non ergo conuiciatur Moyses soli et lunae, cum eos uetat adorari. sed eos laudat tamquam creaturam caelestem, deum autem laudat tamquam creatorem caelestium et terrestrium nec uult offendi deum, cum illi pro illo adorantur, qui propter illum et ex illo laudantur. At quam sibi Faustus argute reprehendere uisus est. quod etiam maledictum uocat Moyses, qui solem adorauerit ac lunam. si ergo, inquit, sub gentili positus rege solem cogar adorare et, cum restitero maledictum hoc metuens, iubear crucifigi, in aliud eius incurram maledictum, quod aduersus eum deprompsit. qui pendet in ligno. uos quidem nullus rex gentilis cogit adorare solem. quod nec ipse sol cogeret, si in terra regnaret, quia nec nunc a uobis hoc uult fieri; sed sicut creator ipse inpios blasphematores suos usque ad iudicium sustinet, sic et ipsa caelestia tolerant uanos adoratores suos usque ad iudicium creatoris sui. tamen mementote christianum regem non posse cogere, ut sol adoretur. de gentili enim rege exemplum Faustus proposuit sciens profecto ad gentiles pertinere, quod facitis, cum solem adoratis. non est hoc ergo christianum; sed ubique iam. perdix nomen Christi ponit, ut congreget, quae non peperit. uidete tamen. quam facile respondeat ueritas et sana doctrina quam facile disrumpat hunc uestrae quaestionis tamquam ineuitabilem et bicipitem laqueum. ecce faciamus aliquem armatum regia potestate comminari homini christiano, ut si solem adorare noluerit, suspendatur in ligno. si declinauero, inquis, maledictum, quod lex prompsit in solis adoratorem, incidam in illud, quod eadem lex prompsit in eum, qui pependerit in ligno. ita uero turbaberis; sed tu. immo nec tu, qui et nullo cogente adoras solem. at uero christianus aedificatus supra fundamentum apostolorum et prophetarum adtendit singulas causas et singula maledicta, uidet unum pertinere ad corpus mortale, quod ligno suspenditur, alterum ad animum, quo sol adoratur. etsi enim corpus inclinatur in adorando, animus tamen aut colit, quod adorat, aut fingit; utrumque autem perniciosum est. quapropter quoniam maledictum in utroque mors meruit, sicut mors corporis in ligno pendere, ita mors animi est solem adorare. eligendum est igitur maledictum in corporis morte, quo maledicto et ipsum corpus in resurrectione liberabitur;. deuitandum autem maledictum in animae morte, ne cum suo corpore in aeterno igne damnetur. hanc enim quaestionem nobis dominus soluit dicens: nolite timere eos, qui corpus occidunt, animam autem non possunt occidere; sed eum timete, qui habet potestatem et animam et corpus occidere in gehennam ignis, tamquam diceret: nolite timere maledictum corporalis mortis, quod temporaliter soluitur, sed timete maledictum spiritalis mortis, per quod anima in aeternum cum suo corpore cruciatur. ecce non est anicularis maledictio, sed prophetica praedictio: maledictus omnis, qui pendet in ligno. sic enim auferet Christus de maledicto maledictum, quomodo de morte mortem, de peccato peccatum. sic ergo non blasphemauit Moyses dicendo: maledictus omnis qui pendet in ligno, quomodo non blasphemauerunt apostoli docendo: mortuus est et: uetus homo noster confixus est cruci cum illo et: de peccato damnauit peccatum et: eum, qui non nouerat peccatum, peccatum pro nobis fecit et multa huiusmodi. uos autem cum horretis maledictum Christum, fatemini uos horrere mortem Christi. ubi adparet uestra non anicularis maledictio, sed diabolica simulatio, qui mortem corporis Christi animae uestrae morte non creditis. quam tamen mortem Christi non ueram, sed simulatam suadetis. quasi non audeatis per nomen christianum homines fallere, nisi ipsum Christum magistrum fallaciae faciatis.
So Moses does not abuse the sun and moon when he forbids them to be worshipped; rather he praises them as heavenly creatures, but praises God as the Creator of heavenly and earthly things, and does not want God to be offended when those are worshipped in place of him who are praised because of him and as coming from him. But how cleverly Faustus thought he was finding fault, because Moses also calls cursed whoever worships the sun and moon! “If, then,” he says, “placed under a Gentile king, I am compelled to worship the sun, and, when I resist for fear of this curse, am ordered to be crucified, I shall run into his other curse, which he brought out against the one who hangs on a tree.” No Gentile king compels you to worship the sun. Nor would the sun itself compel it, if it reigned on earth, since even now it does not want this done by you; but just as the Creator himself bears with his impious blasphemers until the judgment, so the heavenly bodies too tolerate their foolish worshippers until the judgment of their Creator. Yet remember that a Christian king cannot compel the sun to be worshipped. For Faustus gave the example of a Gentile king, knowing surely that what you do when you worship the sun belongs to the Gentiles. This, then, is not Christian; but everywhere now the partridge puts forward the name of Christ, so as to gather what it did not hatch. Yet see how easily the truth answers, and how easily sound doctrine breaks this snare of your question, which seems inescapable and two-headed. See, let us suppose that someone armed with royal power threatens a Christian man that, if he will not worship the sun, he shall be hanged on a tree. “If I avoid,” you say, “the curse which the law brought out against the worshipper of the sun, I shall fall into the one which the same law brought out against him who has hung on a tree.” So indeed you would be troubled; but you, no, not even you, since you worship the sun with no one compelling you. But the Christian, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, attends to each cause and each curse, and sees that one belongs to the mortal body, which is hanged on a tree, the other to the mind, by which the sun is worshipped. For even if the body bows in worshipping, the mind either reveres what it worships or pretends to; and both are ruinous. Therefore, since death earned the curse in both, as hanging on a tree is the death of the body, so worshipping the sun is the death of the mind. The curse in the death of the body is therefore to be chosen, from which curse the body itself will be freed in the resurrection; but the curse in the death of the soul is to be avoided, so that it may not be condemned with its body in eternal fire. For the Lord solved this question for us when he said: “Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; but fear him who has power to kill both soul and body in the gehenna of fire”; as if he said: Do not fear the curse of bodily death, which is undone in time, but fear the curse of spiritual death, through which the soul is tormented for ever with its body. See, it is not an old woman's cursing but a prophetic prediction: “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree.” For thus Christ will take away curse by curse, as death by death, sin by sin. So Moses did not blaspheme by saying, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree,” any more than the apostles blasphemed by teaching: “He died,” and: “Our old man was crucified with him,” and: “From sin he condemned sin,” and: “Him who knew no sin he made sin for us,” and many things of this kind. But you, when you shudder at Christ cursed, admit that you shudder at Christ's death. In this appears not an old woman's cursing on your part but a devilish pretence, since by the death of your soul you do not believe the death of Christ's body; yet you urge that this death of Christ was not true but feigned, as if you did not dare to deceive men through the Christian name unless you made Christ himself a teacher of deceit.
Deut 17:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Jer 17:11 (allusion, high confidence) · Eph 2:20 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 10:28 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 12:5 (allusion, medium confidence) · Deut 21:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 6:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:3 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 5:21 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 5:15 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine answers Faustus's dilemma: a Christian forced to worship the sun should accept the curse of bodily death, from which the resurrection frees, rather than the soul's death by idolatry.
- Matt 10:28 is quoted in a form close to Luke 12:5 (“gehenna of fire”).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: split word): quaestion m → quaestionem; cruci c um illo → cruci cum illo.
Topics: Martyrdom, Heresy, Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 14.12 (CSEL 25.1:412–414; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/14-1/#p-14-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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14.13CSEL 25.1:414–415
Quod autem inuidus continentiae uel uirginitati Fausto uisus est, quia dixit: maledictus omnis, qui non suscitauerit semen in Israhel, legant Esaiam clamantem: haec dicit dominus spadonibus omnibus: qui obseruauerint praecepta mea et elegerint, quae ego uolo. et custodierint testamentum meum, dabo illis in domo mea et in muro meo locum nominatum, meliorem filiorum et filiarum; nomen aeternum dabo illis et non deerit illis. aut si contrarium putant Esaiam Moysi, hic eis placeat, si ille displicet, non est parum aduersus istos. nobis enim sufficit scire unum deum locutum et per Moysen et per Esaiam. et maledictum esse omnem, qui non suscitauerit semen in Israhel, siue tunc, cum populo secundum carnem propagando etiam carnalis prolis operatio in coniugali castitate ad officium ciuicum pertinebat, siue nunc, ne quisquam spiritaliter natus putet sibi debere sufficere. nec instet dominicis lucris, quibus quisque pro modulo suo praedicando Christum debet generare christianos. ita illa diuina sententia tempora utriusque testamenti mira breuitate complectitur: maledictus omnis, qui non suscitauerit semen in Israhel.
As for Moses seeming to Faustus to be hostile to continence and virginity because he said, “Cursed is everyone who has not raised up seed in Israel,” let them read Isaiah crying: “Thus says the Lord to all the eunuchs: Those who keep my commandments and choose what I will, and hold fast my covenant, I will give them in my house and within my wall a named place, better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name, and it shall not fail them.” Or if they think Isaiah contrary to Moses, let him please them here, if the other displeases; that is no small thing against these men. For us it is enough to know that the one God spoke both through Moses and through Isaiah; and that everyone is cursed who has not raised up seed in Israel, whether then, when, for the propagation of a people according to the flesh, the work even of fleshly offspring in conjugal chastity belonged to a citizen's duty, or now, so that no one born spiritually should think that it ought to suffice for himself, and should not press on with the Lord's gains, by which each, according to his small measure, ought to beget Christians by preaching Christ. So that divine sentence takes in the times of both testaments with marvellous brevity: “Cursed is everyone who has not raised up seed in Israel.”
Deut 25:5 (allusion, low confidence) · Isa 56:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 56:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 25:27 (allusion, low confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine answers that Isaiah praises faithful eunuchs, and reads the curse on not raising seed as fleshly offspring under the Old Testament and spiritual offspring through preaching now.
- On the source of “Cursed is everyone who has not raised up seed in Israel,” see the note at 14.1.
Topics: Marriage, Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 14.13 (CSEL 25.1:414–415; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/14-1/#p-14-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 15
15.1CSEL 25.1:415–418
DECIMUS. FAUSTUS dixit: Quare non accipitis testamentum uetus? quia et omne uas plenum superfusa non recipit, sed effundit et stomachus saturus reicit ingesta. proinde et Iudaei ex praeoccupatione Moyseos testamento uetere satiati respuerunt nouum, et nos ex Christi praeuentione nouo referti respuimus uetus. uos ideo utrumque accipitis, quia in neutro estis pleni, sed semi alterumque ex altero in uobis non tam repletur quam corrumpitur, quia et sema uasa numquam de dissimili inplentur materia, sed de eadem ac sibi simili, ut uini uino et mellis melle et aceti aceto: quibus dissimilia et non sui. generis superfundas, ut melli fel et aquam uino et aceto garos, non repletio uocabitur haec, sed adulterium. hoc ergo causa est, unde nos parum accipimus testamentum uetus. et quia ecclesia nostra, sponsa Christi, pauperior quidem ei nupta. sed diuiti, contenta sit bonis mariti sui, humilium amatorum dedignatur opes, sordent ei testamenti ueteris et eius auctoris munera famaeque suae custos diligentissima nisi sponsi sui non accipit litteras. uestra sane ecclesia usurpet testamentum uetus. quae ut lasciua uirgo inmemor pudoris alieni uiri et muneribus gaudet et litteris. amator denique ille uester et pudoris corruptor Hebraeorum deus diptychio lapideo suo aurum uobis promittit et argentum, uentris saturitatem et terram Chananaeorum. hi uos delectauerunt tam sordidi quaestus, ut libeat peccare post Christum, ut sitis ingrati tam inmensis dotibus eius. haec uos inliciunt, ut in Hebraeorum depereatis deo post nuptias Christi. discite ergo iam nunc etiam falli uos et decipi falsis promissionibus eius. pauper est, egenus est, ne ea quidem praestare potest, quae promittit: nam si suae propriae coniugi, dico autem synagogae, nihil horum praestat, quae pollicetur. et quidem morem gerenti sibi per omnia et seruienti summissius quam ancilla, uobis praestare quid poterit alienis ab se et mandatorum suorum detrectantibus iugum superba ceruice? sed uos quidem pergite agere, ut coepistis, rudem pannum ueteri uestimento committite, nouum uinum ueternosis utribus credite, duobus maritis nulli placituri seruite, christianam denique fidem Hippocentaurum facite, nec equum perfectum nec hominem: nobis soli Christo seruire permittite, eius tantum inmortali dote contentis et imitantibus apostolum, qui dicit: sufficientia nostra ex deo est, qui nos idoneos probauit ministros noui testamenti. Hebraeorum dei et nostra admodum diuersa condicio est, quia nec ipse, quae promittit, inplere potest et nos ea fastidimus accipere. superbos nos aduersus blanditias eius Christi liberalitas fecit. ac ne incongrue me haec conparasse existimes, Paulus in nos hanc coniugalis disciplinae similitudinem prior contulit dicens: quae sub uiro est mulier uiuente, uiro alligata est lege uiri; si autem mortuus fuerit uir eius, soluta est a lege uiri. ergo uiuente uiro uocabitur, inquit, adultera, si iuncta fuerit alteri uiro; quodsi mortuus fuerit uir eius, non erit adultera alii coniuncta, per haec ostendens spiritu moechari eos, qui non ante repudiantes et in mortuis quodam modo ponentes legis auctorem tum demum se copulauerint Christo. quod dictum ad eos praecipue spectat, qui crediderint ex Iudaeis, uidelicet ut ipsi sint primae superstitionis obliti. nobis uero in hoc quid opus est uel praecepto, quibus ex gentilitate conuersis ad Christum Hebraeorum deus non mortuus debet uideri, sed nec natus? sane Iudaeo, si credat, Adoneus debet uideri defunctus, gentili uero idolum, et unicuique quod est ueneratus ante cognitum Christum. nam si post idolatriae diuortia Hebraeorum quis deum et Christum pariter colat, nihil ille quidem detriti pudoris a femina discrepauit, quae post unius mariti obitum duobus nupserit.
Tenth. Faustus said: “Why do you not accept the Old Testament?” Because every full vessel does not take in what is poured on top but pours it out, and a full stomach throws back what is forced into it. So the Jews too, filled with the Old Testament because Moses had got there first, spat out the New; and we, filled with the New because Christ had come first, spit out the Old. You accept both because you are full in neither, but half full; and in you the one is not so much filled up by the other as spoiled, because half-filled vessels are never filled with a different substance, but with the same and like itself: wine with wine, honey with honey, vinegar with vinegar. If you pour on top things unlike them and not of their kind, such as gall on honey, water on wine, fish sauce on vinegar, this will not be called filling up, but adulteration. This, then, is the reason why we do not much accept the Old Testament. And because our church, the bride of Christ, poorer indeed but married to a rich husband, is content with her husband's goods, she scorns the wealth of lowly lovers; the gifts of the Old Testament and its author are mean in her eyes, and, a most careful guardian of her good name, she accepts no letters but her bridegroom's. Let your church, by all means, lay claim to the Old Testament; like a wanton girl forgetful of modesty, she delights in another man's gifts and letters. That lover of yours, in fact, the corrupter of your modesty, the God of the Hebrews, promises you in his stone tablets gold and silver, a full belly, and the land of the Canaanites. Such sordid gains have delighted you so much that you are pleased to sin after Christ, and to be ungrateful for his immense dowry. These things entice you, so that you are dying of love for the God of the Hebrews after your marriage to Christ. Learn now, then, that you too are deceived and cheated by his false promises. He is poor, he is needy; he cannot even provide what he promises. For if he provides none of the things he pledges to his own wife (I mean the synagogue), though she humours him in everything and serves him more submissively than a maidservant, what will he be able to provide for you, who are strangers to him and refuse the yoke of his commandments with a proud neck? But go on as you have begun: sew raw cloth onto an old garment, entrust new wine to worn-out wineskins, serve two husbands and please neither, and in a word make the Christian faith a hippocentaur, neither a complete horse nor a man. Allow us to serve Christ alone, content with his immortal dowry alone and imitating the apostle, who says: “Our sufficiency is from God, who has proved us fit ministers of the New Testament.” The God of the Hebrews and we are in quite different positions, since he cannot fulfil what he promises and we disdain to accept it. The liberality of Christ has made us proud against his blandishments. And lest you think I have made this comparison unfittingly, Paul first applied this likeness of marriage discipline to us, saying: “The woman who is under a husband is bound by the law of the husband while he lives; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law of the husband. So while her husband lives,” he says, “she will be called an adulteress if she is joined to another man; but if her husband dies, she will not be an adulteress if joined to another.” By this he shows that those commit adultery in spirit who join themselves to Christ without first divorcing the author of the law and in some way counting him among the dead. This saying looks chiefly to those who believed from among the Jews, namely that they should forget their former superstition. But what need have we even of this precept, we who, converted to Christ from paganism, must regard the God of the Hebrews not as dead but as never even born? Certainly, to a Jew who believes, Adonai must seem dead; to a Gentile, his idol; and to each, whatever he worshipped before he knew Christ. For if, after divorcing idolatry, someone worships the God of the Hebrews and Christ alike, he differs in no way in worn-out modesty from a woman who after the death of one husband has married two.
Exod 31:18 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 9:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 9:17 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 6:24 (allusion, medium confidence) · 2 Cor 3:5 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 3:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 7:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 7:3 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Faustus says the Manichaeans reject the Old Testament because the church, Christ's bride, needs nothing from the God of the Hebrews, whom he portrays as a poor and deceitful lover.
- “Tenth” is Faustus's own numbering. Faustus's description of the God of the Hebrews as a seducer, and of the synagogue as his wife, is his Manichaean polemic, translated as written; Augustine answers in 15.2–11.
- “Adoneus” is Faustus's form of the Hebrew Adonai, “Lord” (Augustine explains it in 15.9).
- The words “sed semi … et sema uasa” are damaged in the digital text; translated by sense as “half full … half-filled vessels.”
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: n for u; line-break hyphen and stray mark): respuimus netus → respuimus uetus; nonum uinum → nouum uinum; di- * uersa → diuersa.
Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy, Marriage
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 15.1 (CSEL 25.1:415–418; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/14-1/#p-15-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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