Against Faustus the Manichaean 16.24–16.33
Latin text: Zycha, CSEL 25.1 (Latin text: Joseph Zycha, Contra Faustum Manichaeum (CSEL 25.1, 1891), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: NPNF 1/4: Reply to Faustus the Manichaean (Philip Schaff, ed., 1887).
Chapter 16
16.24CSEL 25.1:467–469
Nam de maledicto pendentis in ligno iam quantum satis uisum est. supra diximus. interficiendum autem esse prophetam siue principem populi. qui filios Israhel a deo suo uellet auertere aliquidue infringere mandatorum, non aduersus Christum praecepisse Moysen et ex his. quae iam multa egimus. satis clarum est et magis magisque consideranti dicta et facta domini Iesu Christi magis magisque clarebit, quia nec a suo deo uoluit quemquam eorum Christus auertere. deus quippe, quem illis Moyses diligendum colendumque praeceperat. ipse est certe deus Abraham et deus Isaac et deus Iacob, quem dominus Iesus Christus eadem conmendatione conmemorat eiusque auctoritate Sadducaeorum refellit errorem resurrectionem negantium, ubi ait: de resurrectione autem mortuorum non legistis, quid deus locutus sit de rubo ad Moysen: ego sum deus Abraham et deus Isaac et deus Iacob? non est deus mortuorum, sed uiuorum; omnes enim illi uiuunt. oportune itaque eadem uoce nunc conuincuntur Manichaei, qua tunc conuicti sunt Sadducaei; nam et ipsam resurrectionem alio quidem modo. sed tamen etiam isti negant. item cum fidem centurionis laudans diceret: amen dico uobis, non inueni tantam fidem in Israhel, adiecit et ait: dico autem uobis, quoniam multi ab oriente et occidente uenient et recumbent cum Abraham et Isaac et Iacob in regno caelorum; filii autem regni ibunt in tenebras exteriores. si ergo, quod negare Faustus non potest, non conmendauit Moyses populo Israhel deum, nisi deum Abraham et Isaac et Iacob eumque ipsum Christus ex his et aliis testimoniis sine dubitatione conmendat. non est conatus illum populum auertere a deo suo, sed ideo minatus est eos ituros in tenebras exteriores, quod auersos uideret a deo suo, in cuius regno gentes uocatas ex toto orbe terrarum recubituras dicit cum Abraham et Isaac et Iacob: non ob aliud, quam quod fidem tenuissent dei Abraham et Isaac et Iacob. unde et apostolus dicit: prouidens autem scriptura, quia ex fide iustificat gentes deus, praenuntiauit Abrahae dicens: in semine tuo benedicentur omnes gentes. ut illi scilicet in semine Abrahae benedicerentur, qui Abrahae fidem imitarentur. non igitur Christus Israhelitas a deo suo uolebat auertere, sed eos potius, quod ab illo auerterentur, arguebat. mandatorum autem aliquod eorum, quae per Moysen data sunt. infregisse dominum qui arbitratur, non mirum, si hoc putat, quod Iudaei; sed ideo errat, quia in hoc errauerunt et Iudaei. ubi autem Faustus conmemorat ipsum mandatum, quod dominum infregisse uult credi. ibi opus est. ut ostendamus, quomodo fallatur, sicut iam supra, ubi oportebat, ostendimus. nunc illud dico, quia, si aliquod illorum mandatorum dominus infregisset, non etiam de hoc ipso Iudaeos arguisset: quibus calumniantibus, quod discipuli eius inlotis manibus manducarent et ob hoc excederent non mandatum dei. sed traditiones seniorum, ait illis: utquid et uos egredimini mandatum dei, ut traditiones uestras statuatis? ipsumque dei mandatum conmemorat, quod per Moysen mandatum esse nouimus. secutus quippe ait: deus enim dixit: honora patrem et matrem et: qui maledixerit patri aut matri, morte morietur. uos autem dicitis: quicumque dixerit patri uel matri. munus, quod est ex me, tibi prosit, non honorauerit patrem suum; et inritum fecistis uerbum dei propter uestram traditionem. qua in re uidete, quam multa nos doceat et Iudaeos a deo suo se non auertere, et eius mandata non tantum se non infringere, uerum etiam illos, a quibus infringerentur, arguere, et non nisi deum per Moysen ista mandasse.
As for the curse on the one who hangs on a tree, we have already said above as much as seemed enough. But that Moses did not command against Christ when he said that a prophet or ruler of the people was to be killed who wished to turn the children of Israel away from their God or to break any of the commandments, is clear enough from the many things we have already treated, and will become clearer and clearer to one who considers more and more the words and deeds of the Lord Jesus Christ: for Christ did not wish to turn any of them away from their God. For the God whom Moses had commanded them to love and worship is certainly the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, whom the Lord Jesus Christ mentions with the same commendation, and by whose authority he refutes the error of the Sadducees, who denied the resurrection, where he says: “But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what God spoke to Moses from the bush: I am the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob? He is not the God of the dead but of the living; for all live to him.” Fittingly, then, the Manichaeans are now refuted by the same voice by which the Sadducees were refuted then; for they too deny the resurrection itself, in a different way indeed, but still deny it. Again, when, praising the centurion's faith, he said, “Amen I say to you, I have not found such faith in Israel,” he added and said: “And I tell you that many will come from east and west and recline with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven; but the sons of the kingdom will go into the outer darkness.” If then, as Faustus cannot deny, Moses commended to the people of Israel no God but the God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob, and Christ by these and other testimonies commends him without hesitation, he did not try to turn that people away from their God; rather he threatened that they would go into the outer darkness because he saw them turned away from their God, in whose kingdom he says the nations called from the whole world will recline with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob, for no other reason than that they had held the faith of the God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob. Hence the apostle too says: “The scripture, foreseeing that God justifies the Gentiles by faith, announced beforehand to Abraham, saying: In your seed all nations shall be blessed”; namely, that those should be blessed in the seed of Abraham who imitated the faith of Abraham. So Christ did not wish to turn the Israelites away from their God, but rather rebuked them because they were turned away from him. And whoever thinks that the Lord broke any of the commandments given through Moses, it is no wonder if he thinks what the Jews thought; but he errs for the very reason that the Jews too erred in this. Where Faustus mentions the commandment itself which he would have us believe the Lord broke, there we must show how he is deceived, as we have already shown above where it was needed. For now I say this: if the Lord had broken any of those commandments, he would not have rebuked the Jews on this very point. When they cavilled that his disciples ate with unwashed hands and so transgressed, not the commandment of God, but the traditions of the elders, he said to them: “Why do you too transgress the commandment of God in order to establish your traditions?” And he mentions the commandment of God itself, which we know was commanded through Moses. For he went on to say: “For God said, Honour father and mother, and, Whoever curses father or mother shall surely die. But you say: Whoever says to father or mother, May the gift that is from me benefit you, has not honoured his father; and you have made void the word of God for the sake of your tradition.” See in this how much he teaches us: both that he does not turn the Jews away from their God, and that he not only does not break his commandments but also rebukes those by whom they are broken, and that it was none other than God who commanded these things through Moses.
Deut 21:23 (allusion, high confidence) · Deut 13:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 3:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 22:31 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 22:32 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 20:38 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 8:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 8:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 8:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 3:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 22:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 15:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 20:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 21:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:6 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine answers that Christ did not turn Israel from its God, since he proclaimed the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, nor did he break Moses' commandments, but rebuked those who made them void.
- Augustine's statement that the “sons of the kingdom” were threatened because they had turned away from God is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (split word; stray mark; stray marks): ligno iam.' quantum → ligno iam quantum; m ortuorum → mortuorum; Abraham et. Isaac → Abraham et Isaac.
Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 16.24 (CSEL 25.1:467–469; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/16-24/#p-16-24). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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16.25CSEL 25.1:469–470
Quamobrem quoniam nos credimus omnia, quae scripsit Moyses, ad Christi conmendationem pertinere, quod isto opere quia demonstrare non possumus. polliciti sumus in his hoc ostendere, quae Faustus de illa scriptura refellenda uel uituperanda delegerit, recte a nobis debitum exigitur, ut hoc etiam, quod praecepit Moyses interficiendum esse prophetam siue principem, qui eos a deo suo uellet auertere aliquodue infringere mandatorum, ostendamus ad custodiendam fidem, quae in ecclesia Christi discitur, pertinere. uidebatur quippe ille spiritu prophetico et deo sibi loquente multos exsurrecturos haereticos diuersorum errorum magistros aduersum doctrinam Christi, qui non eum Christum praedicarent, qui uerus est Christus. ille enim uerus est, qui per prophetias, per eundem Moysen ceterosque sanctos eius gentis editas praenuntiatus est. quisquis itaque alium docere uellet, ipsum interficiendum Moyses praecipiebat. quid autem nunc aliud agit lingua catholica. nisi ut spiritali gladio utriusque testamenti acie bis acuto interficiantur omnes, qui nos a deo nostro uolunt auertere aliquodue infringere mandatorum? inter quos praecipue cadit ipse Manichaeus, cum eius error adserta legis et prophetarum ueritate perimitur, uolentis nos auertere a deo nostro, deo Abraham et Isaac et Iacob, quem Christus conmendat, et uolentis infringere mandata legis, in quorum etiam figuris Christum prophetatum esse cognoscimus.
Therefore, since we believe that everything Moses wrote concerns the commending of Christ, and since we cannot demonstrate this in this work, we promised to show it in those things which Faustus picked out from that scripture to refute or find fault with. So it is rightly demanded of us as a debt that we show that this too, Moses' command that a prophet or ruler should be killed who wished to turn them away from their God or to break any of the commandments, concerns the keeping of the faith which is learned in the church of Christ. For by the prophetic Spirit, with God speaking to him, he saw that many heretics would arise, teachers of various errors, against the teaching of Christ, who would not preach the Christ who is the true Christ. For the true one is he who was foretold through the prophecies given out through the same Moses and the other holy men of that nation. So whoever wished to teach another, Moses commanded him to be killed. And what else does the Catholic tongue do now, but that, by the spiritual sword sharpened on both edges with the two testaments, all are slain who wish to turn us away from our God or to break any of the commandments? Among them falls above all Mani himself, when his error is destroyed by the assertion of the truth of the law and the prophets; for he wishes to turn us away from our God, the God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob, whom Christ commends, and wishes to break the commandments of the law, in whose very figures we know Christ was prophesied.
Deut 13:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Eph 6:17 (allusion, high confidence) · Heb 4:12 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine reads the law's sentence of death on false prophets as a figure of the church slaying heresies, Mani's above all, with the two-edged sword of the two Testaments.
- The “killing” is explained spiritually, as refutation by the word of Scripture.
Topics: Heresy, Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 16.25 (CSEL 25.1:469–470; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/16-24/#p-16-25). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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16.26CSEL 25.1:470–472
Iam uero illam conplexionem utrum obtunsissimam. an fraudulentissimam dicam, nescio; erat enim Fausto ingenium. unde magis arbitror eum nebulam inicere uoluisse minus adtento lectori quam non uidisse quod dicam; ait enim: quodsi haec de Christo minime scripsit, aut alia dabitis aut nulla erunt. haec propositio uera est, sed consequens erat, ut ostenderet et haec de Christo minime scripta esse et alia dari non posse. nihil autem horum fecit. quia et haec nos ostendimus, quomodo de Christo accipi possint, et superius alia multa dedimus, quae nisi de Christo intellectum habere non possint. non est ergo, cur concludas, Fauste, nulla esse a Moyse scripta de Christo. adtende enim, quid dicas. quodsi haec, inquis, minime de Christo scripsit, aut alia dabitis aut nulla erunt. uerum dicis. proinde quia et haec de Christo uel propter Christum scripta docuimus et alia multa dedimus, argumentatio tua potius nulla erit. et haec quidem, quae conmemorasti, quamuis non obtinueris, saltem conatus es ostendere non esse scripta de Christo. quod autem subdidisti: aut alia dabitis, aut nulla erunt, prius demonstrare debuisti alia nos dare non posse, ut securus inferres nulla esse. nunc uero tamquam libellus tuus tam surdos auditores uel caecos lectores esset habiturus, ut nullus aduerteret, quid praetermiseris, concurristi dicere: si nulla fuerint, nec Christus potuit adseuerare, quod nusquam est; ita si Christus hoc minime adseuerarit, capitulum hoc falsum esse constiterit. o hominem se cogitantem dictorem et alium non cogitantem contradictorem! ubi est acumen tuum? an in mala causa non posses aliter? sed mala causa te uana loqui coegit; malam uero habere causam nemo te cogit. quid enim? si alia dabimus? certe utique non erunt nulla, quia erunt aliqua. et si erunt aliqua, potuit Christus adseuerare, quod est. ita si Christus hoc adseuerare potuit, capitulum illud euangelicum falsum esse non constat. redi ergo ad propositionem tuam, qua dixisti: aut alia dabitis, aut nulla erunt, et uide non te ostendisse nulla nos alia daturos. uide etiam nos quam multa alia iam supra dixerimus, et quid hinc conficiatur aduerte: scilicet non esse falsum, quod in euangelio Christum dixisse legimus: si crederetis Moysi, crederetis et mihi; de me enim ille scripsit. et euangelii quidem tam eminens est auctoritas et tam fundata ueritas, ut, etiamsi nos propter tarditatem intellegentiae nostrae nulla inueniremus a Moyse scripta de Christo, non solum esse aliqua, sed ad Christum omnia pertinere, quae scripsit, quia non ait: et de me scripsit, sed de me ille scripsit, credere deberemus. nunc autem, etsi de isto euangelii capitulo, quod absit, dubitandum esset, conpertis tam multis in scriptura Moysi de Christo testimoniis omnis illa dubitatio tolleretur; et quia de capitulo euangelii dubitandum non est, etiamsi illa conperta non essent. esse tamen credi oporteret.
Now as for that argument, I do not know whether to call it most obtuse or most fraudulent; for Faustus had wit, so I rather think he wished to throw a mist over a less attentive reader than that he did not see what I shall say. For he says: “And if he wrote these things not at all about Christ, either you will give others or there will be none.” This proposition is true; but it was incumbent on him to show both that these things were not written about Christ and that others cannot be given. He did neither of these, for we have shown how these things can be taken of Christ, and above we gave many others which can have no meaning except of Christ. So there is no reason, Faustus, for you to conclude that nothing was written by Moses about Christ. For attend to what you say: “And if he wrote these things not at all about Christ,” you say, “either you will give others or there will be none.” You speak truly. So, since we have taught that these things were written about Christ or because of Christ, and have given many others, it is rather your argument that will be nothing. And these things which you mentioned you at least tried to show were not written about Christ, though you did not succeed; but as for what you added, “either you will give others or there will be none,” you ought first to have demonstrated that we cannot give others, so as to infer safely that there are none. But as it is, as if your little book were going to have hearers so deaf or readers so blind that no one would notice what you passed over, you rushed to say: “If there are none, neither could Christ assert what exists nowhere; so, if Christ did not assert it, that passage will be established as false.” O man who thinks of himself as speaker and does not think of another as contradictor! Where is your sharpness? Or could you not do otherwise in a bad cause? But the bad cause compelled you to talk emptily; yet no one compels you to have a bad cause. For what if we give others? Then certainly there will not be none, since there will be some. And if there are some, Christ could assert what is. So, if Christ could assert this, it is not established that that passage of the gospel is false. Go back, then, to your proposition, in which you said, “either you will give others or there will be none,” and see that you have not shown that we will give no others. See also how many others we have already mentioned above, and notice what follows from this: namely, that it is not false that we read in the gospel that Christ said, “If you believed Moses, you would believe me too; for he wrote about me.” And the authority of the gospel is so eminent and its truth so well founded that, even if through the slowness of our understanding we found nothing written by Moses about Christ, we ought to believe not only that there are some things, but that everything he wrote concerns Christ, because he did not say, “and he wrote about me,” but “he wrote about me.” But as it is, even if this passage of the gospel were to be doubted (far be it!), all that doubt would be removed once so many testimonies about Christ have been found in the writing of Moses; and since the passage of the gospel is not to be doubted, even if those testimonies had not been found, it would still be necessary to believe that they exist.
John 5:46 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine exposes the gap in Faustus's argument: he never showed that no other passages of Moses concern Christ, and many have been given, so the Gospel saying stands.
Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 16.26 (CSEL 25.1:470–472; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/16-24/#p-16-26). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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16.27CSEL 25.1:472–473
Nam illud quod adiungis "dissimilem fuisse traditionem Christi atque Moyseos et ideo non fuisse uerisimile, ut si crederent Moysi, crederent et Christo, immo illud potius esse consequens, ut si alteri Iudaei crederent, alteri necessario repugnarent" non utique diceres, si considerationis oculum paululum adtolleres orbemque terrarum sine contentionis caecitate conspiceres in hominibus doctis atque indoctis, Graecis et barbaris, sapientibus et insipientibus, quibus se debitorem dicebat apostolus et Moysi et Christo simul credentem. si ergo non erat uerisimile, ut Iudaei Moysi et Christo pariter crederent. multo minus uerisimile est, ut orbis terrarum Moysi et Christo pariter credat. cum uero uideamus omnes gentes utrique credere et illius prophetiam cum euangelio huius conuenientem fide robustissima et celeberrima retinere, non ad aliquid inpossibile gens una uocabatur, cum ei diceretur: si crederetis Moysi, crederetis et mihi, potiusque est miranda et uehementius arguenda duritia Iudaeorum, qui hoc non fecerunt, quod totum mundum fecisse conspicimus.
For as to what you add, “that the tradition of Christ and of Moses was unlike, and therefore it was not likely that if they believed Moses they would believe Christ; rather it followed that if the Jews believed one, they would necessarily resist the other,” you would certainly not say this if you raised the eye of consideration a little and looked at the whole world, without the blindness of contention, in learned and unlearned men, Greeks and barbarians, wise and foolish, to whom the apostle said he was a debtor, believing Moses and Christ together. If, then, it was not likely that the Jews would believe Moses and Christ alike, it is much less likely that the whole world would believe Moses and Christ alike. But since we see all nations believing both, and holding his prophecy in agreement with this one's gospel with a most firm and widespread faith, one nation was not called to anything impossible when it was told, “If you believed Moses, you would believe me too”; rather the hardness of the Jews is to be marvelled at and rebuked more strongly, who did not do what we see the whole world has done.
Rom 1:14 (allusion, high confidence) · John 5:46 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine answers that the whole world now believes Moses and Christ together, so belief in both was not impossible for the Jews.
- Augustine's rebuke of the “hardness of the Jews” is translated as written.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 16.27 (CSEL 25.1:472–473; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/16-24/#p-16-27). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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16.28CSEL 25.1:473–474
Nam quicquid dicis de sabbato et de circumcisione. carnis et de differentia ciborum aliam fuisse traditionem Moysi, aliud per Christum didicisse christianos. iam supra ostendimus, quia. sicut dicit apostolus, haec omnia figurae nostrae fuerunt. non ergo diuersa doctrina est, sed diuersum tempus. aliud enim erat, quo haec oportebat per figuratas prophetias praenuntiari, et aliud est, quo haec iam oportet per manifestam ueritatem redditamque adinpleri. sed quid mirum, si Iudaei carnaliter intellegentes sabbatum Christo, qui iam hoc spiritaliter insinuabat. repugnauerarit? tu apostolo responde, si potes, qui uacationem ipsius diei umbram futuri esse testatur. sed si illi restiterunt Christo non intellegentes uerum sabbatum, uos ei nolite resistere et intellegite ueram innocentiam. nam eo ipso loco. ubi praecipue destructor sabbati putatur Iesus, cum discipuli eius per segetem transeuntes et esurientes uellerent spicas et ederent, innocentes eos dixit respondens Iudaeis: si sciretis, quid sit: misericordiam uolo quam sacrificium. numquam condemnassetis innocentes; magis enim esurientium misereri debuerunt, quia hoc illi coacti fame fecerunt. a uobis autem quisquis uulserit spicas, non ex traditione Christi, qui hanc innocentiam uocat, sed ex traditione Manichaei homicida deputatur. an forte misericordiam eisdem spicis exhibuerunt apostoli, ut inde membra dei manducando purgarent. sicut uestra fabula est? uos ergo crudeles, qui hoc non facitis. sed uidelicet nouit Faustus destruere sabbatum, quia scit uirtutem dei semper atque infatigabiliter operari. illi hoc dicant, qui intellegunt deum sine temporali uoluntate uniuersa tempora facientem. hoc ad uos multum est. qui dei uestri requiem rebellatione gentis tenebrarum perhibetis excussam et hostium repentino inpetu perturbatam. an ex aeterno praeuidens hoc futurum numquam habuit requiem, quia numquam securus fuit. qui se cogitabat tam graue bellum cum tanta membrorum suorum labe damnoque gesturum?
For whatever you say about the Sabbath, about circumcision of the flesh, and about the distinction of foods, that the tradition of Moses was one thing and what Christians learned through Christ another, we have already shown above that, as the apostle says, all these things were figures of us. So it is not a different teaching, but a different time. For it was one time when these things had to be foretold through figurative prophecies, and it is another when they must now be fulfilled through the truth made plain and rendered. But what wonder if the Jews, understanding the Sabbath in a fleshly way, resisted Christ, who was now conveying it spiritually? Answer the apostle, if you can, who testifies that the rest of that day is a shadow of what was to come. But if they resisted Christ through not understanding the true Sabbath, do not you resist him, and understand true innocence. For in that very place where Jesus is chiefly thought to be a destroyer of the Sabbath, when his disciples, passing through the grainfield and hungry, plucked ears and ate them, he called them innocent, answering the Jews: “If you knew what this means, I desire mercy and not sacrifice, you would never have condemned the innocent.” For they ought rather to have pitied the hungry, since these did this compelled by hunger. But among you, whoever plucks ears is reckoned a murderer, not by the tradition of Christ, who calls this innocence, but by the tradition of Mani. Or did the apostles perhaps show mercy to those ears, so as to purify the members of God by eating them, as your fable has it? Then you are cruel, who do not do this. But Faustus, it seems, knows how to destroy the Sabbath, because he knows that the power of God works always and tirelessly. Let those say this who understand that God makes all times without a temporal will. That is too much for you, who say that the rest of your god was shaken off by the rebellion of the race of darkness and disturbed by the sudden attack of enemies. Or did he, foreseeing from eternity that this would happen, never have rest, because he was never secure, thinking that he would wage so heavy a war with such ruin and loss to his members?
1 Cor 10:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Col 2:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Col 2:17 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 12:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 12:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Hos 6:6 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:17 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine answers that the Sabbath, circumcision and food laws were figures for their time, and that Christ called his hungry disciples innocent, while Manichaean teaching counts plucking grain as murder and gives their god no rest.
- The Manichaean elect were forbidden to pluck or harvest plants, since this was held to injure the divine light in them; hearers did it for them.
Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 16.28 (CSEL 25.1:473–474; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/16-24/#p-16-28). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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16.29CSEL 25.1:474–477
Ceterum illud sabbatum, quod inperite atque inpie deridetis, nisi et ipsum inter prophetias. quae de Christo scriptae sunt, haberet intellectum, non ei Christus sic adtestaretur. qui cum propria uoluntate, sicut ipse in eius laude posuisti, pateretur ideoque tempora passionis et resurrectionis suae haberet in potestate, id egit, ut caro eius in sepultura sabbato requiesceret ab omnibus operibus suis, ut tertio die resurgens, quem dominicum dicimus, qui post sabbatum numeratur octauus, etiam circumcisionem octaui diei ad se prophetandum pertinere declararet. quid enim significat circumcisio carnis? quid? nisi expoliationem mortalitatis. quam de carnali generatione portamus. propter hoc dicit apostolus: exuens se carnem principatus et potestates exemplauit fiducialiter, triumphans eos in semet ipso. quod enim dicit exuisse se carnem, eo loco carnem mortalitatem carnis intellegimus. secundum quam proprie corpus hoc caro nominatur. quae mortalitas proprie caro est appellata. quia in illa resurrectionis inmortalitate non erit. propterea scriptum est: caro et sanguis regnum dei non possidebunt. de quibus uerbis soletis calumniari fidei nostrae, qua credimus huius corporis futuram resurrectionem, quae in ipso deo iam praecessit, dissimulantes ea, quae sequuntur; in quibus aperte apostolus quid dicat exponit. uolens enim ostendere, quid eo loco dixerit carnem, continuo subiecit: neque corruptio incorruptionem possidebit. hoc enim corpus, quod propter mortalitatem proprie caro nominatur, mutari dicit in resurrectione, ut iam non sit corruptibile atque mortale. quod ne putetur nostra suspicione dici, ipsa eius quae sequuntur uerba consulite. ecce, inquit, mysterium dico: omnes quidem resurgemus, non tamen omnes inmutabimur, in atomo, in ictu oculi, in nouissima tuba; canet enim tuba, et mortui resurgent incorrupti, et nos inmutabimur; oportet enim corruptibile hoc induere incorruptionem et mortale hoc induere inmortalitatem. ut ergo induatur inmortalitate, exuitur mortalitate. hoc est circumcisionis mysterium, quae octauo die fieri iussa est, et octauo die, id est dominica post sabbatum, iam in ueritate a domino inpleta. unde dicitur: exuens se carnem principatus et potestates exemplauit. per hanc enim mortalitatem nobis inuidae diabolicae potestates dominabantur; quas exemplasse dictus est, quia in se ipso capite nostro praebuit exemplum, quod in toto eius corpore, id est ecclesia ex diaboli potestate liberanda, in ultima resurrectione conplebitur. haec est fides nostra. et quoniam, sicut testimonium propheticum Paulus conmemorat, iustus ex fide uiuit, haec est iustificatio nostra. mortuum quippe Christum et pagani credunt; resurrexisse autem Christum propria fides est christianorum. si enim confitearis, ait apostolus, in ore tuo, quia dominus est Iesus, et credideris in corde tuo, quia deus illum suscitauit a mortuis, saluus eris. quia ergo ex ista resurrectionis fide iustificamur, ideo et illud de Christo apostolicum est, quia mortuus est propter delicta nostra et resurrexit propter iustificationem nostram. et quia ista resurrectio, quae credita nos iustificat, illa octaui diei circumcisione figurata est, propterea de ipso Abraham, cui primum tradita est, dicit apostolus: et signum accepit circumcisionis signaculum iustitiae fidei. ergo et istam circumcisionem inter alias figuras propheticas de Christo scripsit Moyses. de quo ipse dicit: de me enim ille scripsit. quod autem dicit dominus: uae uobis, scribae et pharisaei hypocritae, qui circuitis mare et aridam facere unum proselytum; et cum feceritis eum, facitis eum filium gehennae duplo quam uos estis, non quia circumciditur, dixit. sed quod eorum mores imitatur, a quibus imitandis cohibet suos dicens: in cathedra Moysi sedent scribae et pharisaei: quae dicunt, facite, quae autem faciunt. facere nolite; dicunt enim, et non faciunt. in quibus dominicis uerbis utrumque debetis aduertere, et quantus honor delatus sit doctrinae Moysi, in cuius cathedra etiam mali sedentes bona docere cogebantur, et unde fieret proselytus filius gehennae, non scilicet a pharisaeis uerba legis audiendo, sed eorum facta sectando. hoc ergo dici posset tunc proselyto circumciso, quod Paulus dicit: circumcisio quidem prodest, si legem custodias. quia uero ille in non custodienda lege pharisaeos imitabatur, fiebat filius gehennae; propterea, quantum arbitror, duplo quam illi, quia hoc neglegebat inplere, quod propria uoluntate susceperat, non ex Iudaeis natus, sed sponte Iudaeus factus.
Moreover, that Sabbath which you ignorantly and impiously deride would not have been so attested by Christ, unless it too had its meaning among the prophecies written about Christ. For since he suffered of his own will, as you yourself put it in his praise, and therefore had the times of his passion and resurrection in his power, he brought it about that his flesh rested in the tomb on the Sabbath from all its works, so that, rising on the third day, which we call the Lord's day, and which is counted as the eighth after the Sabbath, he might declare that circumcision on the eighth day also belonged to prophesying him. For what does circumcision of the flesh signify? What, but the stripping off of the mortality which we bear from fleshly generation? For this reason the apostle says: “Stripping himself of the flesh, he made an example of principalities and powers boldly, triumphing over them in himself.” For when he says that he stripped himself of the flesh, we understand by flesh in that place the mortality of the flesh, according to which this body is properly named flesh. This mortality was properly called flesh because it will not be in that immortality of the resurrection. This is why it is written: “Flesh and blood shall not possess the kingdom of God.” With these words you are accustomed to slander our faith, by which we believe in the future resurrection of this body, which has already gone before in God himself; and you pass over what follows, in which the apostle plainly explains what he means. For, wishing to show what he called flesh in that place, he immediately added: “nor shall corruption possess incorruption.” For he says that this body, which because of mortality is properly called flesh, is changed in the resurrection, so that it is no longer corruptible and mortal. And lest this be thought said on our own conjecture, consult his very words that follow. “See,” he says, “I tell you a mystery: we shall all rise, but we shall not all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will rise incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal put on immortality.” So, to be clothed with immortality, it is stripped of mortality. This is the mystery of circumcision, which was commanded to be done on the eighth day, and on the eighth day, that is, the Lord's day after the Sabbath, was fulfilled now in truth by the Lord. Hence it is said: “Stripping himself of the flesh, he made an example of principalities and powers.” For through this mortality the devilish powers, envious of us, had dominion over us; and he is said to have made an example of them because in himself, our head, he gave an example of what will be accomplished in his whole body, that is, the church to be freed from the power of the devil, at the last resurrection. This is our faith. And since, as Paul recalls the prophetic testimony, the just man lives by faith, this is our justification. For even pagans believe that Christ died; but that Christ rose is the faith proper to Christians. “For if you confess with your mouth,” says the apostle, “that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Because, then, we are justified by this faith in the resurrection, this too is said apostolically of Christ: that he died for our offences and rose for our justification. And because this resurrection, which, when believed, justifies us, was prefigured by that circumcision on the eighth day, the apostle says of Abraham himself, to whom it was first given: “And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of faith.” So among other prophetic figures Moses also wrote this circumcision about Christ, of whom Christ himself says: “For he wrote about me.” As for the Lord's saying, “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for you travel sea and land to make one proselyte; and when you have made him, you make him a son of gehenna twice as much as yourselves,” he did not say this because the proselyte is circumcised, but because he imitates their morals, from imitating which he restrains his own, saying: “The scribes and Pharisees sit on the chair of Moses: do what they say, but do not do what they do; for they say, and do not do.” In these words of the Lord you ought to notice both things: how great honour was paid to the teaching of Moses, in whose chair even bad men sitting were compelled to teach good things; and how the proselyte became a son of gehenna, namely, not by hearing the words of the law from the Pharisees but by following their deeds. So what Paul says could have been said then to the circumcised proselyte: “Circumcision indeed is of value, if you keep the law.” But because he imitated the Pharisees in not keeping the law, he became a son of gehenna; and for this reason, I think, twice as much as they, because he neglected to fulfil what he had taken on of his own will, not born of Jews but having become a Jew by choice.
Col 2:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Col 2:11 (allusion, medium confidence) · Gen 17:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Lev 12:3 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 15:50 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:51 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:52 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:53 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Hab 2:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 10:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 4:25 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 4:11 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:46 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 23:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 23:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 23:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 2:25 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine reads Christ's Sabbath rest in the tomb and his rising on the eighth day as fulfilling the Sabbath and circumcision, which signifies the stripping off of mortality, and explains the woe on the proselyte as about imitating the Pharisees.
- Col 2:15 is quoted in the Old Latin (“exuens se carnem”), which Augustine reads of Christ putting off mortal flesh.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray mark): quia'ergo → quia ergo; pharisaei' hypocritae → pharisaei hypocritae.
Topics: Christology, Eschatology, Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 16.29 (CSEL 25.1:474–477; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/16-24/#p-16-29). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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16.30CSEL 25.1:477
Quid autem dicere uoluisti, sine respectu iniuriose, quod Moyses helluonis in modum disceptator sedet iubetque alia quidem abligurriri pro mundis, alia uero pro inmundis ne contingi quidem? cum ad helluonem hoc magis pertineat, ut nulla discernat, aut, si discernit, suauiora eligat. an hoc ideo dicis, ut inperitis continentia tua uelut ab ineunte aetate miranda uideatur quasi nescientis uel iam obliti, quanto iucundius sapiat porcina quam ueruecina? sed quia et ista Moyses figuris propheticis de Christo scripsit in animalium carnibus significans homines uel incorporandos Christi corpori, quod est ecclesia, uel respuendos, uos quoque inter inmunda figurauit, qui propterea fidei catholicae non conuenitis, quia nec ruminatis uerbum sapientiae et duo testamenta, uetus et nouum, non concorditer distinguentes tamquam geminam ungulam non habetis. quis autem ferat te quoque Adimanti uestri fallaciam non puduisse sectari?
But what did you mean when you said, without regard and insultingly, that Moses sits as judge like a glutton, and orders some things to be licked up as clean and others as unclean not even to be touched? When it belongs rather to a glutton to distinguish nothing, or, if he does distinguish, to choose the tastier. Or do you say this so that your continence may seem admirable to the unlearned, as if from early youth, as though you did not know, or had already forgotten, how much more pleasantly pork tastes than mutton? But since Moses wrote these things too about Christ in prophetic figures, signifying by the flesh of animals men either to be incorporated into Christ's body, which is the church, or to be rejected, he has figured you too among the unclean, who do not agree with the Catholic faith for this reason, that you neither chew over the word of wisdom, nor have, as it were, the split hoof, since you do not distinguish the two testaments, the Old and the New, in harmony. And who could bear that you too were not ashamed to follow the deceit of your Adimantus?
Lev 11:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Deut 14:6 (allusion, medium confidence) · Col 1:18 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Augustine answers Faustus's mockery of the food laws: they figure those who are to be received into Christ's body or rejected, and the Manichaeans, who neither ruminate on wisdom nor rightly divide the two Testaments, are among the unclean.
- Adimantus was a Manichaean writer whose objections Augustine had answered in his earlier work Against Adimantus; Faustus follows him here.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR: dropped letter): abligurrii;i → abligurriri; proptera fidei → propterea fidei.
Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 16.30 (CSEL 25.1:477; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/16-24/#p-16-30). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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16.31CSEL 25.1:477–481
Dicis enim et tu "Christum sic docuisse ciborum indifferentiam, ut a suis quidem discipulis omnes carnes penitus remoueret, saecularibus uero uulgo concederet omnia, quae possent edi, atque adseueraret, quod eos nihil in os intrans pollueret, quia quae de ore inprudenter procedunt, ea sola sunt, quae polluant hominem." haec uerba tua sunt tanto inpudentiore, quanto apertiore mendacio deprompta et expressa. primo quia secundum Christi sententiam si ea sola polluunt hominem, quae mala ex ore procedunt, cur et discipulos Christi non ea sola polluerunt, ut eos tamquam ab inmundis carnibus esset necesse prohiberi? an saeculares homines non polluuntur his, quae in os intrant, sed his, quae ex ore exeunt? ergo munitiores sunt aduersus inmunditiam quam sancti, si sanctos et ea, quae intrant. et ea, quae exeunt, possunt inquinare. uellem autem mihi isti dicerent: quid manducabat et bibebat Christus, qui in conparatione Iohannis non manducantis neque bibentis se dixit manducantem et bibentem? cum enim argueret peruersitatem hominum utrobique calumnias inquirentium, uenit. inquit, Iohannes non manducans neque bibens, et dicunt: daemonium habet; uenit filius hominis manducans et bibens, et dicunt: ecce homo uorax et uinaria. amicus publicanorum et peccatorum. et Iohannis quidem escam ac potum nouimus; non enim dictum est, quod omnino non biberet, sed quod uinum et siceram non biberet: bibebat ergo aquam. cibus autem eius non omnino nullus erat, sed locustae et mel siluestre. unde ergo dictus est "non manducans neque bibens," nisi quia illo uictu. quo Iudaei utebantur. ille non utebatur? hoc ergo dominus nisi uteretur, non in eius conparatione "manducans bibensque" diceretur. an forte ideo, quia pane et oleribus dominus uescebatur, quibus Iohannes non uescebatur? mirum si non manducans dicitur, qui locustas et mel comedit, et manducans dicitur. qui pane atque olere contentus est. sed de cibis suspicamini, quicquid uultis: certe bibens et uinaria non diceretur, nisi uinum biberet. cur ergo et hoc uos inmundum putatis? neque enim haec propter continentiam disciplinamque domandi corporis tangere prohibetis, sed quod inmunda sint; nam ea sordes et fel gentis tenebrarum esse perhibetis contra apostolum dicentem: omnia munda mundis. ecce qui audent dicere Christum indifferentiae ciborum magistrum, discipulos tamen suos ab his prohibuisse, quae inmunda ipsi putant. ostendite, ubi ista a discipulis suis remouerit, fallaces, inprobi; uerumtamen dei uindicis prouidentia ita caecati, ut etiam commoneatis nos, unde conuincamini. non uim patior ab animo meo. nisi totum ipsum euangelii capitulum, quod iste aduersum Moysen obponere uoluit, inspiciendum inseruero, ut ibi uideamus, quam falsum sit, quod prior Adimantus et modo Faustus dixit dominum Iesum a discipulis suis carnes uescendas remouisse easque uulgo saecularibus concessisse. nempe cum respondisset calumniantibus, quod non lotis manibus manducarent, ita sequitur euangelium: et conuocatis turbis ait illis: audite et intellegite. non quod intrat in os, communicat hominem, sed quod procedit de ore communicat hominem. tunc accedentes discipuli dixerunt ad eum: scis, quod pharisaei audito hoc uerbo scandalizati sunt? hic certe a discipulis conpellatus debuit eos. sicut isti uolunt, proprie docere ab omnibus carnibus abstinendum, ut illud, quod supra dixit: non quod intrat in os, communicat hominem. sed quod procedit de ore. turbis dixisse uideretur. sequatur ergo euangelista et dicat. quid iam non turbis, sed discipulis responderit dominus. at ille respondens ait: omnis plantatio, quam non plantauit pater meus caelestis. eradicabitur. sinite illos, caeci sunt duces caecorum. caecus autem si caecum ducat. ambo cadent in foueam. hoc utique ideo, quia traditiones suas uolentes statuere mandata dei non intellegebant. sed nondum quaesierant discipuli a magistro. quomodo ipsi, quod turbis dixerat, accipere deberent. ecce et hoc fit; nam contexit euangelista et dicit: respondens autem Petrus ait illi: narra nobis parabolam istam. hinc intellegimus Petrum putasse non proprie. nec aperte dominum locutum fuisse, cum diceret: non quod intrat in os, communicat hominem, sed quod procedit de ore, sed. ut solet, obscuritate parabolae aliquid significare uoluisse. uideamus ergo. utrum iam secretius discipulis interrogantibus hoc dicat. quod Manichaei uolunt, inmundas esse omnes carnes nec eos aliquid earum debere contingere. quid? quod exprobrat. quod apertam suam locutionem nondum intellexerint et proprie dictum parabolam putent. sic enim sequitur: at ille dixit: adhuc et uos insipientes estis et non intellegitis, quia omne, quod in os intrat, in uentrem uadit et in latrinam emittitur; quae autem procedunt ex ore, de corde exeunt, illa communicant hominem? nam de corde exeunt cogitationes malae, homicidia, adulteria, fornicationes, furta. falsa testimonia, blasphemiae; haec sunt. quae communicant hominem; non lotis autem manibus manducare non communicat hominem.
For you too say “that Christ taught the indifference of foods in such a way that he removed all meats entirely from his own disciples, but generally allowed to worldly people everything that could be eaten, and asserted that nothing entering the mouth polluted them, because what comes out of the mouth thoughtlessly is all that pollutes a man.” These words of yours are all the more shameless as the lie with which they are produced and expressed is more open. First, because, according to Christ's sentence, if only the evil things that come out of the mouth pollute a man, why did not only these pollute Christ's disciples too, so that it was necessary to forbid them meats as unclean? Or are worldly men not polluted by what enters the mouth, but by what comes out of it? Then they are better protected against uncleanness than the saints, if both what enters and what comes out can defile the saints. I should like these men to tell me: what did Christ eat and drink, who, in comparison with John, who neither ate nor drank, said that he himself ate and drank? For when he rebuked the perversity of men seeking pretexts for slander on both sides, he said: “John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He has a demon; the Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, Look, a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.” And we know John's food and drink; for it was not said that he did not drink at all, but that he did not drink wine and strong drink: so he drank water. Nor was his food nothing at all, but locusts and wild honey. Why then was he said to be “neither eating nor drinking,” unless because he did not use the diet which the Jews used? So unless the Lord had used it, he would not have been called “eating and drinking” in comparison with him. Or perhaps because the Lord ate bread and vegetables, which John did not eat? It would be strange if he who ate locusts and honey were called not eating, and he who was content with bread and vegetables were called eating. But suspect what you like about the foods; certainly he would not have been called a drinker and a drunkard if he did not drink wine. Why then do you think this too unclean? For you do not forbid touching these things for the sake of continence and the discipline of taming the body, but because they are unclean; for you say they are the filth and gall of the race of darkness, against the apostle, who says: “All things are clean to the clean.” See, these men dare to say that Christ, the teacher of the indifference of foods, nevertheless forbade his disciples those things which they themselves think unclean. Show where he removed these things from his disciples, deceitful, wicked men; yet so blinded by the providence of God the avenger that you even remind us of the means by which you are refuted. My mind will not let me rest unless I insert the whole passage of the gospel which this man wished to set against Moses, for examination, so that we may see there how false it is, as first Adimantus and now Faustus said, that the Lord Jesus removed meats from his disciples as food and allowed them generally to worldly people. For when he had answered those who cavilled that they ate with unwashed hands, the gospel goes on thus: “And calling the crowds, he said to them: Hear and understand. Not what enters the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the mouth defiles a man. Then the disciples came and said to him: Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?” Here certainly, when addressed by the disciples, he ought, as these men would have it, to have taught them specially to abstain from all meats, so that what he said above, “Not what enters the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the mouth,” might seem to have been said to the crowds. Let the evangelist go on, then, and say what the Lord answered, now not to the crowds but to the disciples. “But he answered and said: Every plant which my heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up. Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into the pit.” This, of course, because, wishing to establish their own traditions, they did not understand the commandments of God. But the disciples had not yet asked the master how they themselves should take what he had said to the crowds. See, this too happens; for the evangelist continues and says: “And Peter answered and said to him: Explain this parable to us.” From this we understand that Peter thought the Lord had not spoken literally and openly when he said, “Not what enters the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the mouth,” but had wished, as he usually did, to signify something by the obscurity of a parable. Let us see, then, whether now, privately, to the disciples who asked, he says what the Manichaeans would have, that all meats are unclean and they ought not to touch any of them. What then? He rebukes them because they had not yet understood his open speech and thought what was said literally to be a parable. For it goes on thus: “But he said: Are you also still without understanding, and do you not understand that whatever enters the mouth goes into the belly and is cast out into the drain? But what comes out of the mouth comes from the heart, and that defiles a man. For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies; these are what defile a man; but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man.”
Matt 15:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 11:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 11:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 1:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 3:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Titus 1:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 15:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:20 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine refutes the claim that Christ forbade meat to his disciples, citing Christ's eating and drinking and quoting Matthew 15 in full, where he explains privately to the disciples that food does not defile.
- In Matt 15:19 the Latin lists adulteria (“adulteries”) and fornicationes (“fornications,” sexual immorality) as distinct sins.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray mark): e.radicabitur → eradicabitur; interrogantibus.hoc → interrogantibus hoc.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 16.31 (CSEL 25.1:477–481; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/16-24/#p-16-31). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Zycha (CSEL 25.1, 1891); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation of R. Stothert in NPNF¹ 4 (1887).
16.32CSEL 25.1:481–482
Certe iam manifestata fallacia conuicta discedit; certe iam clarum est non aliud de hac re turbas, aliud secreto discipulos dominum docuisse; certe sine dubitatione perspicitur Manichaeos potius esse mendaces atque fallaces, non Moysen, non Christum. non testamenti utriusque doctrinam ibi figuratam. hic reuelatam. ibi prophetatam, hic praesentatam. quomodo ergo nihil eorum catholicos seruare putant, quae Moyses scripsit, cum omnia prorsus obseruent, non iam in figuris, sed in eis rebus, quas illae figurae significando praenuntiarunt? neque enim, si aliud tempus esset scribendi, aliud legendi, recte diceremus scripturam illam non obseruare lectorem, quia et ipse characteres illos non faceret. cum illae fuissent figurae sonorum, ille autem iam sonos ipsos expromeret, illarum tamen figurarum non formatione occupatus, sed inspectione commonitus. ideo autem Iudaei Christo non credebant, quia nec illa, quae Moyses non figurate, sed aperte praeceperat, obseruabant. unde illis dicit: decimatis mentam et cyminum et relinquitis grauiora legis. misericordiam et iudicium liquantes culicem, camelum autem gluttientes: haec oportebat facere, illa autem non omittere. unde est et illud. quod traditionibus docebant, quomodo infirmaretur praeceptum dei, quo deferri honorem parentibus iusserat; propter quam superbiam et iniquitatem excaecari meruerunt, ut cetera non intellegerent, quia ea, quae intellegebant, inpie contemnebant.
Surely now the deceit, exposed, goes off refuted; surely it is now clear that the Lord did not teach the crowds one thing on this matter and the disciples another in private; surely it is seen without doubt that it is rather the Manichaeans who are liars and deceivers, not Moses, not Christ, not the teaching of the two testaments, figured there and revealed here, prophesied there and presented here. How then do they think that Catholics keep none of the things Moses wrote, when they observe absolutely all of them, no longer in figures but in the realities which those figures foretold by signifying them? For if the time of writing were one and the time of reading another, we would not rightly say that the reader does not observe that writing because he himself does not form those characters; since those were figures of sounds, while he now gives out the sounds themselves, not busied in forming those figures, but prompted by looking at them. And the Jews did not believe Christ for this reason, that they did not observe even those things which Moses had commanded, not figuratively but openly. Hence he says to them: “You tithe mint and cummin and leave the weightier things of the law, mercy and judgment, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel; these you ought to have done, without omitting those.” Hence too their teaching by their traditions how the commandment of God which had ordered honour to be paid to parents might be weakened; because of which pride and iniquity they deserved to be blinded, so as not to understand the rest, because they impiously despised what they understood.
Matt 23:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 23:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:6 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine concludes that Catholics observe all that Moses wrote in the realities the figures foretold, as a reader voices what was written, while the Jews neglected even the plain commands.
- Augustine's statement that the Jews were blinded for their pride is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: n for u): fallacia connicta → fallacia conuicta.
Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 16.32 (CSEL 25.1:481–482; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/16-24/#p-16-32). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Zycha (CSEL 25.1, 1891); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation of R. Stothert in NPNF¹ 4 (1887).
16.33CSEL 25.1:482–483
Uidesne, quam tibi non dicam: si christianus es. crede dicenti Christo, quia de se scripsit Moyses; quod si non credis. christianus non es. ipse quippe uideris. quid de te sentias, qui te ut gentilem uel Iudaeum doceri de Christo expetis; ego tamen neque hoc defugi et omnes tibi aditus erroris, quantum potui, clausi. nec illud siui patere praecipitium, qua uos caeci mittitis dicentes falsa esse in euangelio, sicubi uestra haeresis exitum non inuenerit, ut uobis nihil remaneat, quo redire possitis. unde Christo credatis, ubi uobis haec uox pestilentiae non possit obponi. quin etiam sic te doceri cupis ut christianum Thomam, quem Christus de se dubitantem non est aspernatus. sed quo animi eius uulneribus mederetur, corporis sui cicatrices ostendit. haec uerba tua sunt. bene, quod sic te doceri exigis. quam enim uerebar, ne hoc quoque in euangelio falsum esse contenderes! crede ergo cicatricibus Christi, quia si cicatrices illae uerae erant, uera etiam illa uulnera fuerant, nec uera uulnera nisi uera caro habere potuisset: hoc uerum totum uestrum euertit errorem. porro si Christus falsas cicatrices dubitanti discipulo demonstrauit, et ipsum fallacem dicis ita docentem et te falli cupis ita discentem. sed quia falli nemo est qui uelit, fallere autem multi uolunt, magis te uelle intellego quasi exemplo Christi fallaciter docere quam exemplo Thomae fallaciter discere. proinde si credis. quod falsis cicatricibus Christus fefellerit dubitantem, te quis uelit credere docentem, ac non potius cauere fallentem? at si ille discipulus ueras cicatrices tetigit Christi, ueram confiteri cogeris et carnem Christi. ita Manichaeus non permanebis, si sic credis ut Thomas; infidelis autem remanebis, si nec sic credis ut Thomas.
You see how I do not say to you: “If you are a Christian, believe Christ when he says that Moses wrote about him; and if you do not believe, you are not a Christian.” You yourself must see what you think of yourself, who ask to be taught about Christ as a Gentile or a Jew; yet I have not shirked this either, and I have closed to you, as far as I could, every approach of error. Nor have I let that precipice lie open over which you blind men throw yourselves, saying that there are falsehoods in the gospel wherever your heresy finds no way out, so that nothing remains for you to return to, from which you might believe Christ, where this pestilent saying cannot be set against you. Indeed, you even wish to be taught as the Christian Thomas was, whom Christ did not spurn when he doubted about him, but, to heal the wounds of his mind, showed the scars of his body. These are your words. It is good that you demand to be taught in this way. For how I feared that you would contend that this too in the gospel is false! Believe, then, the scars of Christ; for if those scars were true, those wounds too had been true; and true wounds could only be had by true flesh. This truth overturns your whole error. Further, if Christ showed false scars to a doubting disciple, you call him deceitful in teaching so, and you wish to be deceived in learning so. But since there is no one who wants to be deceived, while many want to deceive, I understand that you would rather teach deceitfully, as if by the example of Christ, than learn deceitfully by the example of Thomas. So if you believe that Christ deceived the doubter with false scars, who would want to believe you when you teach, and not rather beware of you as a deceiver? But if that disciple touched the true scars of Christ, you are compelled to confess the true flesh of Christ too. So you will not remain a Manichaean, if you believe as Thomas did; but you will remain an unbeliever, if you do not believe even as Thomas did.
John 5:46 (allusion, high confidence) · John 20:27 (allusion, high confidence) · John 20:28 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine turns Faustus's appeal to Thomas against him: the scars Thomas touched prove Christ's true flesh, which the Manichaeans deny.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: dropped letter): falsas cicatrice dubitanti → falsas cicatrices dubitanti.
Topics: Christology, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 16.33 (CSEL 25.1:482–483; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/16-24/#p-16-33). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Zycha (CSEL 25.1, 1891); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation of R. Stothert in NPNF¹ 4 (1887).