Against Faustus the Manichaean 23.1–23.10

Latin text: Zycha, CSEL 25.1 (Latin text: Joseph Zycha, Contra Faustum Manichaeum (CSEL 25.1, 1891), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: NPNF 1/4: Reply to Faustus the Manichaean (Philip Schaff, ed., 1887).

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Chapter 23

23.1CSEL 25.1:707

FAUSTUS dixit: Disputanti mihi aliquando quidam ex numerosa plebe respondens ait: accipis Iesum de Maria natum? cui ego: quemnam, inquam, dicis Iesum? nam plures in Hebraismo fuerunt Iesus: unus quidem Naue filius, discipulus Moysi; alter uero filius Iosedech sacerdotis magni; item alius, qui dictus est filius Dauid; alius uero filius dei. quemnam ergo istorum de Maria natum quaeris ex me utrum accipiam? utique, inquit, filium dei. cui ego: et quo auctore quoue magistro docente istud accipiam? at ille, Matthaeo, inquit. cui rursum ego: quid enim Matthaeus scripsit? et ille: liber generationis Iesu Christi filii Dauid, filii Abraham, et cetera. tum ego: putaueram, inquam. quia esses dicturus liber generationum Iesu Christi filii dei, et me paraueram ad praescribendum; sed quia nunc fideliter capitulum memorasti, admonendus tantum es, ut id, quod recitasti, consideres. neque enim Matthaeus hic se dei filii generationem scribere fatetur instituisse, sed filii Dauid.

Faustus said: Once, when I was debating, someone from the large crowd answered me and said: “Do you accept Jesus born of Mary?” I said to him: “Which Jesus do you mean? For there were several named Jesus among the Hebrews: one the son of Nun, the disciple of Moses; another the son of Jozadak the high priest; again another, who was called the son of David; and another the Son of God. Which of these, then, are you asking me whether I accept as born of Mary?” “The Son of God, of course,” he said. I said to him: “And on whose authority, or on what teacher's instruction, should I accept that?” And he said: “Matthew's.” I said to him again: “What, then, did Matthew write?” And he said: “The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham,” and the rest. Then I said: “I had thought you were going to say, ‘The book of the generations of Jesus Christ the Son of God,’ and I had prepared myself to raise an objection; but since you have now faithfully quoted the passage, you need only be reminded to consider what you have recited. For Matthew does not here profess to have undertaken to write the generation of the Son of God, but of the son of David.”

Exod 33:11 (allusion, medium confidence) · Hag 1:1 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 1:1 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Faustus recounts a debate in which he pointed out that Matthew's genealogy calls Jesus the son of David, not the Son of God.

  • The digital text begins with “TERTIUS”, a fragment of the book heading (“twenty-third”), removed by correction. Joshua son of Nun (Exod 33:11); Jeshua son of Jozadak (Hag 1:1; Ezra 3:2, “Jesus” in Greek and Latin); Matt 1:1.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (leaked fragment of the book heading; stray point): TERTIUS. FAUSTUS → FAUSTUS; memorasti,. → memorasti,.

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 23.1 (CSEL 25.1:707; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/23-1/#p-23-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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23.2CSEL 25.1:707–709

Ut ergo huic interim dicenti credam, filius Dauid erit mihi de Maria natus; adhuc de dei filio in hoc omni generationis textu nulla fit mentio usque ad baptismum scilicet frustraque calumniam uos ingeritis scriptori, tamquam dei ille filium in utero mulieris incluserit. at uero hic clamitat, ut uidetur, et inscriptione ipsa sua se prorsus ab hoc sacrilegio uindicat Dauid filium perhibens ex illa stirpe oriundum se scripsisse, non filium dei. nam Iesum quidem eum. qui sit filius dei, si scriptoris huius mentem propositumque consideres, non tam ille de Maria uirgine uult nos accipere procreatum quam factum aliquando per baptismum apud fluenta Iordanis. illic enim dicit baptizatum a Iohanne eum, quem Dauid in exordio filium designauit, factum aliquando esse filium dei post annos dumtaxat secundum Lucae fidem ferme triginta, ubi et uox tunc audita est dicens ad eum: filius meus es tu; ego hodie genui te. uides ergo id, quod ante annos triginta, ut huic uidetur, de Maria natum est. non esse ipsum filium dei, sed id, quod de baptismo postea factum est ad Iordanem, id est hominem nouum tamquam in nobis eum credimus ad deum ex gentilitatis errore conuersi: quod ipsum tamen nescio utrum satis cum ea fide faciat, quam uos catholicam nominatis; sed interim sic Matthaeo uidetur, si sunt ipsius haec. neque enim usquam in parturitionibus Mariae dictum legitur illud: filius meus es tu, ego hodie genui te, aut: hic est filius meus dilectissimus, in quo bene conplacui, sed in expiatione eius apud Iordanem. quod si et tu credas ita, ut scriptum est, eris iam quidem Matthaeanus — sic enim mihi dicendum est — catholicus uero nequaquam. nam catholicam fidem nouimus; quae tanto longe abest ab hac professione Matthaei, quanto procul est et a uero, siquidem symbolum uestrum ita se habeat. ut credatis in Iesum Christum filium dei, qui sit natus ex uirgine Maria. uestrum ergo est de Maria accipere filium dei, Matthaei ab Iordane, nostrum ex deo. ac per hoc tam uobis Matthaeus, si haec eius pro certo sunt, contrarius est in professione ista sua quam nobis, nisi quod paulo prudentior uobis inuentus est, ut ortum ex femineo sexu Dauid filio ascriberet magis quam filio dei. quapropter de duobus uos unum fateri oportet: aut hunc non esse Matthaeum, qui haec uidetur adserere, aut uos non tenere apostolicam fidem.

So, to believe him for the moment in what he says, the son of David will be, for me, born of Mary; so far, in this whole text of the genealogy, no mention is made of the Son of God—until the baptism, that is; and in vain do you slander the writer, as though he had shut up the Son of God in a woman's womb. On the contrary, he cries out, it seems, and by his very title clears himself completely of this sacrilege, declaring that it was the son of David, sprung from that stock, that he wrote of, not the Son of God. For as for Jesus who is the Son of God, if you consider this writer's mind and purpose, he wants us to accept him not so much as begotten of the Virgin Mary as made at a certain time through baptism at the streams of the Jordan. For there he says that the one whom at the beginning he designated as David's son, baptized by John, was at a certain time made the Son of God, after about thirty years, according to Luke's account, when also a voice was then heard saying to him: “You are my Son; today I have begotten you.” You see, then, that what, as it seems to him, was born of Mary thirty years before is not itself the Son of God, but that what was made afterwards by baptism at the Jordan—that is, the new man, as we believe him to be in us when we have turned to God from the error of the Gentiles. Whether this agrees well enough with the faith which you call Catholic, I do not know; but meanwhile this is Matthew's view, if these words are his. For nowhere in Mary's childbearing do we read it said, “You are my Son; today I have begotten you,” or, “This is my most beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased,” but at his purification at the Jordan. If you too believe it as it is written, you will now be a Matthaean—for so I must put it—but by no means a Catholic. For we know the Catholic faith, which is as far removed from this profession of Matthew's as it is from the truth, if indeed your creed runs thus: that you believe in Jesus Christ the Son of God, who was born of the Virgin Mary. It is yours, then, to accept the Son of God from Mary; Matthew's, from the Jordan; ours, from God. And so Matthew, if these words are certainly his, is as much opposed to you in this profession of his as to us—except that he was found a little more prudent than you, in ascribing birth from the female sex to the son of David rather than to the Son of God. Therefore you must confess one of two things: either that this is not Matthew who seems to assert these things, or that you do not hold the apostolic faith.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Luke 3:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 3:23 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 2:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 3:17 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Faustus argues that Matthew presents Jesus as son of David by birth and Son of God only from his baptism, contradicting the Catholic creed, so either the gospel is not Matthew's or Catholics do not hold the apostolic faith.

  • Faustus's Manichaean argument, translated as written. Luke 3:22–23 in the reading “You are my Son; today I have begotten you” (Ps 2:7), found in some manuscripts of Luke 3:22 (e.g. Codex Bezae and the Old Latin); Matt 3:17. The creed quoted is the Old Roman/African form (“born of the Virgin Mary”).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR letter error): ad lordanem → ad Iordanem.

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 23.2 (CSEL 25.1:707–709; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/23-1/#p-23-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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23.3CSEL 25.1:709

Nos uero quamuis de hac sententia nemo prorsus deiciat ex deo accipiendi filium dei, tamen ut multum inprudentiae concedamus, ut adigamur et falsis credere, ex Iordane nobis erit factus Iesus dei filius quam natus ex utero mulieris. quamquam nec ipse quidem ille, quem Maria peperit, si ullus erat, recte Dauid filius appelletur, nisi eum constet ex patre Ioseph seminatum. quod quia negatis, illud etiam fateamini necesse est ne ipsum quidem esse Dauid filium, quoniam quidem generatio ab Abraham usque ad Dauid et a Dauid Ioseph adusque deducitur — per omnes scilicet Hebraeorum patres —. ex quo quia Iesus conceptus non est, ut legitur, nec filius erit Dauid longeque demens est, qui quem sine coitu Ioseph de Maria natum dicturus erat, hunc in principio posuerit esse filium Dauid. cum ergo ne ipse quidem, qui sit ex Maria genitus, Dauid recte filius appellaretur, quia non sit natus ex Ioseph, quanto magis filius dei!

But for our part, although no one at all can dislodge us from this conviction that we must receive the Son of God from God, yet, to make a great concession to imprudence, so that we are driven to believe even falsehoods, Jesus will be for us the Son of God made at the Jordan rather than born of a woman's womb. And yet not even the one whom Mary bore, if there was any such, would rightly be called the son of David unless it were established that he was begotten by his father Joseph. Since you deny this, you must also confess that he is not even the son of David, since the genealogy is traced from Abraham to David and from David down to Joseph—through all the fathers of the Hebrews, that is. Since Jesus was not conceived from him, as we read, he will not be the son of David either; and he is quite mad who, when he was going to say that he was born of Mary without intercourse with Joseph, put him at the beginning as the son of David. Since, then, not even the one born of Mary would rightly be called the son of David, because he was not born of Joseph, how much less the Son of God!

Matt 1:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 1:18 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Faustus argues that if Jesus was not begotten by Joseph, he cannot be called the son of David through Matthew's genealogy of Joseph.

  • Matt 1:1–16, 18–25.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray dash): qui sit - ex → qui sit ex.

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 23.3 (CSEL 25.1:709; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/23-1/#p-23-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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23.4CSEL 25.1:709–710

Proinde nec uirginis ipsius origo ex hac tribu fuisse monstratur, unde constat esse Dauid — dico autem ludam, de quo Iudaei reges — sed ex tribu Leui, unde sacerdotes: quod ipsum palam est, quia eadem patrem habuerit sacerdotem quendam nomine Ioachim, cuius tamen in hac generatione nulla usquam habita mentio est. quomodo ergo ad hanc Dauiticae cognationis prosapiem Maria pertinere dicetur, in qua eam nec patrem habere uideas nec maritum? ac per hoc nec ille Dauid filius erit, quisquis ex eadem nascitur, nisi eius hanc genetricem sic admoueas Ioseph, ut eius aut filia probetur aut coniux.

Moreover, it is not shown that the virgin's own descent was from this tribe, from which David is known to be—I mean Judah, from which the kings of the Jews came—but from the tribe of Levi, from which came the priests. This itself is plain, because she had as father a certain priest named Joachim, of whom nevertheless no mention at all is made in this genealogy. How then will Mary be said to belong to this line of Davidic kinship, in which you see that she has neither father nor husband? And so neither will anyone born of her be the son of David, unless you connect his mother with Joseph in such a way that she is proved to be either his daughter or his wife.

Luke 1:36 (allusion, low confidence)

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Summary: Faustus claims Mary was of the priestly tribe of Levi, daughter of the priest Joachim, so her son could not be David's descendant.

  • The name Joachim for Mary's father comes from the Protevangelium of James 1; that work does not call him a priest, and the Levitical descent is Faustus's claim (cf. Luke 1:5, 36, Elizabeth a relative of Mary and of priestly family).

Extrabiblical texts: Prot. Jas. 1.1 (Protevangelium of James; allusion)

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 23.4 (CSEL 25.1:709–710; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/23-1/#p-23-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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23.5CSEL 25.1:710–711

AUGUSTINUS respondit: Fides catholica eademque apostolica est dominum nostrum et saluatorem Iesum Christum et filium dei esse secundum diuinitatem et filium Dauid secundum carnem: quod ita probamus ex euangelicis et apostolicis litteris, ut nemo possit contradicere probationibus nostris, nisi qui ipsis litteris contradicit, non sicut sibi Faustus iste proposuit nescio quem pauca uerba dixisse et contra eiusdem Fausti uersipelles astutias nulla postea testimonia protulisse. quod ego cum fecero, nihil ei quod respondeat remanebit nisi illud, quo uim manifestissimae ueritatis in scripturis sanctis expresse inludere atque euitare conatur, ut falsa illa et diuinis codicibus inmissa respondeat. quam dementiam furiosamque praesumptionem et audaciam iam superius in hoc opere, quantum sufficere uisum est, refutaui; nec eadem repetere oportet, ut modum sermonis etiam cogitemus. quid igitur opus est dispersa per scripturas omnes quaerere atque colligere testimonia, quibus contra istum probemus in libris maximae diuinaeque auctoritatis eundem dici filium dei unigenitum semper deum apud deum, qui dicitur etiam filius Dauid propter acceptam formam serui ex uirgine Maria coniuge Ioseph? nunc interim, quia de Matthaeo uoluit disputare nec a me. totus Matthaei liber huic sermoni inseri potest, legat qui uoluerit et uideat, quemadmodum Matthaeus eum, quem parentes eius enumeraturus dicit filium Dauid, narrando usque ad passionem resurrectionemque perducat nec alium quam ipsum dicat a uirgine Maria de spiritu sancto conceptum et natum. cui rei adhibet et testimonium de propheta: ecce uirgo accipiet in utero et pariet filium et uocabunt nomen eius Emmanuhel, quod est interpretatum "nobiscum deus.". eundemque baptizatum a Iohanne audisse de caelo: hic est filius meus dilectus, in quo mihi conplacui, de quo dictum erat iam ex partu uirginis "nobiscum deus." nisi forte uisum sit Fausto minus esse, quod dictus est deus quam quod dictus est filius dei. ex hoc enim conicere conatus est Matthaeo non esse uisum, quod filius dei factus sit nisi ex baptismo, quia ibi facta est uox de caelo: hic est filius meus, cum idem euangelista etiam superius adhibuerit diuinum ex propheta testimonium, ubi ipse partus uirginis appellatus est "nobis cum deus."

Augustine replied: The Catholic faith, which is also the apostolic faith, is that our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is both the Son of God according to his divinity and the son of David according to the flesh. This we prove from the gospel and apostolic writings in such a way that no one can contradict our proofs except one who contradicts those writings themselves—not as this Faustus imagined for himself that someone or other said a few words and afterwards brought forward no testimonies against the shifty cunning of the same Faustus. When I have done this, nothing will remain for him to answer except that by which he tries expressly to mock and evade the force of the most manifest truth in the holy Scriptures, answering that those things are false and were inserted into the divine books. That madness and furious presumption and audacity I have already refuted earlier in this work, as far as seemed sufficient; nor ought I to repeat the same things, so that I may also consider the measure of my discourse. What need is there, then, to seek and gather testimonies scattered through all the Scriptures, by which to prove against him that in books of the greatest and divine authority the same one is called the only-begotten Son of God, ever God with God, who is also called the son of David because of the form of a servant taken from the Virgin Mary, the wife of Joseph? For now, since he chose to argue about Matthew, and since the whole book of Matthew cannot be inserted by me into this discussion, let whoever wishes read and see how Matthew, by narrating, carries the one whom, when about to enumerate his parents, he calls the son of David, through to the passion and resurrection, and says that no other than he was conceived and born of the Virgin Mary by the Holy Spirit. To this he adds also testimony from the prophet: “Behold, a virgin shall conceive in the womb and bear a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel,” which is interpreted, “God with us”; and that the same one, baptized by John, heard from heaven, “This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased”—of whom it had already been said, from the virgin's childbirth, “God with us.” Unless perhaps it seemed to Faustus less to be called God than to be called the Son of God. For from this he tried to conjecture that Matthew did not think he was made the Son of God except from his baptism, because there a voice came from heaven, “This is my Son,” when the same evangelist had earlier also brought in the divine testimony from the prophet, where the virgin's offspring itself was called “God with us.”

Rom 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 2:7 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:18 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 1:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 1:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 7:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 3:17 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine replies that the apostolic faith confesses Christ as Son of God by divinity and son of David by the flesh, and points out that Matthew calls the virgin-born child “God with us” before the baptism.

  • Rom 1:3–4; Phil 2:7; John 1:1, 18; Matt 1:18–23; Isa 7:14; Matt 3:17.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR letter error): quod ego cam fecero → quod ego cum fecero.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 23.5 (CSEL 25.1:710–711; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/23-1/#p-23-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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23.6CSEL 25.1:711–712

Hunc sane miserum delire garrulum debemus intueri atque obseruare non praetermittentem, ubi potuerit, lectori uaniloquiorum suorum etiam de scripturarum testimoniis nebulas offundere falsitatis. sicut de Abraham dixit, quod deo non crediderat de Sara sibi filium promittenti, quando cum ancilla concubuit, cum scriptura testetur nondum illi partum Sarae fuisse promissum; uel quod uxorem suam sororem mentitus sit, cum genus Sarae nusquam in illis litteris legerit, quibus de hac re fides habenda est; et de filio eius Isaac, quod etiam ipse Rebeccam falso dixerit sororem suam, cum genus eius ibi aperte scriptum sit; et de Iacob, quod cotidie certamen esset inter quattuor eius uxores, quaenam illum de agro uenientem prior ad concubitum raperet: quod illic omnino nusquam legisse conuincitur. ecce qualis homo mendaces diuinorum librorum scriptores se odisse gloriatur, qui etiam de euangelio tantae auctoritatis culmine omnibus noto mentiri sic audet. ut non Matthaeum. ne apostolici nominis pondere conprimatur, sed nescio quem alium sub Matthaei nomine uelit putari scripsisse de Christo, quod non uult credere et quod calumniosa uersutia refutare conatur.

We ought to look closely at this wretched, raving chatterer and observe that he does not omit, wherever he can, to pour the fog of falsehood over the reader of his empty talk even about the testimonies of the Scriptures. So he said of Abraham that he had not believed God, who promised him a son by Sarah, when he lay with the maidservant, whereas Scripture testifies that Sarah's childbearing had not yet been promised him; or that he lied in calling his wife his sister, when he had nowhere read Sarah's descent in those writings which are to be trusted in this matter; and of his son Isaac, that he too falsely called Rebecca his sister, when her descent is openly written there; and of Jacob, that there was a daily contest among his four wives as to which would first seize him for intercourse as he came from the field—which he is proved to have read nowhere at all there. See what kind of man boasts that he hates the lying writers of the divine books, who dares to lie even about the gospel, at the height of so great an authority known to all, so that he would have it thought that not Matthew—lest he be crushed by the weight of the apostle's name—but someone or other under Matthew's name wrote about Christ what he does not wish to believe and what he tries to refute with slanderous cunning.

Gen 16:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 20:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 24:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 30:16 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine recalls Faustus's misrepresentations of Scripture about the patriarchs and accuses him of now lying about Matthew's gospel.

  • Cf. 22.5, 22.32–35, 22.46, 22.49.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray comma): sororem, mentitus → sororem mentitus.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 23.6 (CSEL 25.1:711–712; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/23-1/#p-23-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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23.7CSEL 25.1:712–713

Sic ergo de caelo dictum est super aqua Iordanis: hic est filius meus dilectus, in quo mihi conplacui, quemadmodum dictum est et in monte. neque enim quia et ibi de caelo uox ipsa sonuit, filius dei ante non fuit, quandoquidem ex utero uirginis ille accepit formam serui. qui cum in forma dei esset, non rapinam arbitratus est esse aequalis deo. denique ipse apostolus Paulus alio loco apertissime dicit: cum autem uenit plenitudo temporis, misit deus filium suum, factum ex muliere, factum sub lege. mulierem scilicet more locutionis hebraicae feminam appellans. ipse est ergo filius dei, qui et dominus Dauid secundum diuinitatem, et idem ipse filius Dauid ex semine Dauid secundum carnem. quod si nobis credere non prodesset. non hoc tam adtente idem apostolus Timotheo commendaret dicens: memor esto Christum Iesum resurrexisse a mortuis ex semine Dauid secundum euangelium meum. contra quod euangelium quisquis aliud adnuntiauerit, ut anathema sit, magna cura fideles admonuit.

So, then, it was said from heaven over the water of the Jordan, “This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased,” just as it was said also on the mountain. For not because the voice itself sounded from heaven there also was he not the Son of God before, since from the virgin's womb he received the form of a servant who, being in the form of God, did not think it robbery to be equal with God. Indeed the apostle Paul himself says most plainly in another place: “But when the fullness of time came, God sent his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,” calling her a woman in the manner of Hebrew speech, meaning a female. He, then, is the Son of God, who is also David's Lord according to his divinity, and the same is David's son, of the seed of David according to the flesh. And if it did not profit us to believe this, the same apostle would not commend it so attentively to Timothy, saying: “Remember that Christ Jesus rose from the dead, of the seed of David, according to my gospel.” Against which gospel, if anyone proclaims another, let him be anathema, as he warned the faithful with great care.

Matt 3:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 17:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:7 (allusion, high confidence) · Gal 4:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 22:45 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 110:1 (109:1 LXX) (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Tim 2:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 1:8 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine argues that the voice at the Jordan, like that at the transfiguration, did not make Jesus Son of God, since Paul says God sent his Son made of a woman, both David's Lord and David's son.

  • Matt 3:17; Matt 17:5; Phil 2:6–7; Gal 4:4; Matt 22:42–45 (Ps 110:1); Rom 1:3; 2 Tim 2:8; Gal 1:8–9.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 23.7 (CSEL 25.1:712–713; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/23-1/#p-23-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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23.8CSEL 25.1:713–714

Quid ergo iam moueat sancti euangelii sectatorem, quod sine concubitu Ioseph Christus natus ex uirgine filius tamen Dauid appellatur, cum generationum seriem non usque ad Mariam. sed usque ad Ioseph Matthaeus euangelista perducat? primo quia mariti eius fuerat propter uirilem sexum potius honoranda persona; neque enim quia concubitu non permixtus ideo non maritus, cum ipse Matthaeus narret ab angelo Mariam coniugem ipsius appellatam, qui narrat, quod non ipsius concubitu, sed de spiritu sancto conceperat. quodsi non Matthaeus apostolus ista uera, sed aliquis alius sub eius nomine, sicut Manichaei putant. ea falsa conscriberet, itane sibi etiam ipse in rebus apertissimis et tam de proximo contextis contraria loqueretur, ut quem diceret Dauid filium de Maria uirgine sine cuiusquam uiri concubitu natum, eiusdem parentes gradatim enumerans usque ad eum sine aliqua ratione perduceret, quem non commixtum Mariae ipse dixisset? si enim alius enumeraret progeneratores Christi a Dauid usque ad Ioseph dicens eum filium Dauid, et alius eum sine ullius uiri concubitu ex uirgine Maria natum diceret nec eum filium Dauid appellaret, nec sic continuo putare deberemus eos sibi haec contraria locutos fuisse, ut uel ambo uel unus eorum falsitatis conuinceretur. cogitare enim deberemus fieri potuisse, ut ambo uera dicerent, ut et Ioseph maritus Mariae diceretur habens eam coniugem continenter non concubitu, sed adfectu. non commixtione corporum, sed copulatione, quod est carius, animorum, et ideo non debuisse uirum uirginis matris Christi separari a serie parentum Christi, et ipsam Mariam aliquam de stirpe Dauid uenam sanguinis ducere, ut caro Christi etiam ex uirgine procreata sine Dauid semine esse non posset. cum uero unus idemque narrator utrumque dicat, utrumque commendet, et uirum Mariae Ioseph et Christi uirginem matrem et Christum ex semine Dauid et Ioseph in serie progeneratorum Christi ex Dauid: quid restat, ut credat, qui mauult diuino euangelio quam haereticorum fabulis credere, nisi et Mariam non fuisse extraneam a cognatione Dauid et eam Ioseph coniugem non frustra appellatam propter ordinem sexus et animorum confoederationem, quamuis ei non fuerit carne commixtus, et Ioseph potius propter dignitatem uirilem ab ordine generationum illarum non fuisse separandum. ne hoc ipso uideretur ab illa femina separatus, cui eum coniungebat mentis adfectus, et ne homines fideles Christi id, quod sibi coniuges carne miscentur, tam magnum in coniugio deputarent, ut sine hoc coniuges esse non crederent, sed potius dicerent fidelia coniugia multo familiarius se adhaerere membris Christi, quanto potuissent imitari parentes Christi?

What, then, should now trouble a follower of the holy gospel in the fact that Christ, born of a virgin without intercourse with Joseph, is nevertheless called the son of David, though the evangelist Matthew carries the series of generations not to Mary but to Joseph? First, because the person of her husband was rather to be honoured because of the male sex; for he was not therefore not her husband because he did not join with her in intercourse, since Matthew himself relates that Mary was called his wife by the angel—the same Matthew who relates that she had conceived not by his intercourse but by the Holy Spirit. And if not the apostle Matthew wrote these things as true, but someone else under his name wrote them as false, as the Manichaeans think, would he so contradict himself even in the plainest matters, set down so close together, that, of one whom he called the son of David, born of the Virgin Mary without intercourse with any man, he should enumerate the parents step by step and without any reason bring them down to the one whom he himself had said was not united with Mary? For if one writer enumerated the forebears of Christ from David to Joseph, calling him the son of David, and another said he was born of the Virgin Mary without intercourse with any man and did not call him the son of David, not even so ought we at once to think that they had said things contrary to each other, so that either both or one of them was convicted of falsehood. For we ought to think that it could be that both spoke the truth: that Joseph was called the husband of Mary, having her as his wife continently, not in intercourse but in affection, not by the mingling of bodies but by the union of souls, which is dearer; and that therefore the husband of the virgin mother of Christ ought not to have been separated from the series of Christ's ancestors; and that Mary herself drew some vein of blood from the stock of David, so that the flesh of Christ, even though procreated from a virgin, could not be without the seed of David. But since one and the same narrator says both and commends both—both Joseph as Mary's husband and the virgin mother of Christ, and Christ of the seed of David and Joseph in the series of Christ's forebears from David—what remains for one who prefers to believe the divine gospel rather than the fables of heretics to believe, except both that Mary was not a stranger to the kinship of David, and that she was not called Joseph's wife in vain, because of the order of the sexes and the covenant of souls, though he was not united with her in the flesh; and that Joseph, rather, because of his male dignity, was not to be separated from the order of those generations, lest by this very fact he should seem separated from that woman to whom the affection of his mind joined him; and lest the faithful of Christ should reckon the fleshly union of spouses so great a thing in marriage as to believe that without it they are not spouses, but should rather say that faithful marriages cleave the more intimately to the members of Christ the more they could imitate the parents of Christ?

Matt 1:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 1:20 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 1:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 1:25 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Augustine explains that Matthew traces Christ's genealogy to Joseph because Joseph was truly Mary's husband by the union of souls though not of bodies, and that Mary too must have been of David's line.

  • Matt 1:16, 18–20, 24–25. Augustine's view of the marriage of Mary and Joseph as a true marriage without intercourse, and his application to Christian marriage, are translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray apostrophe; stray point): carne. commixtus → carne commixtus; 'imitari → imitari.

Topics: Christology, Marriage

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 23.8 (CSEL 25.1:713–714; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/23-1/#p-23-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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23.9CSEL 25.1:714–716

Nos ergo credimus etiam Mariam fuisse in cognatione Dauid, quia scripturis eis credimus, quae utrumque dicunt, et Christum ex semine Dauid secundum carnem et eius matrem Mariam non cum uiro concumbendo, sed uirginem. quisquis itaque dicit Mariam ad consanguinitatem Dauid non pertinuisse, manifestum est, quod istarum scripturarum tam excellenti auctoritati obluctetur. ipse ergo conuincat non eam pertinuisse ad semen Dauid et hoc ostendat non ex quibuscumque litteris, sed ecclesiasticis, canonicis, catholicis. aliae quippe apud nos non habent ad has res ullum pondus auctoritatis; ipsae sunt enim, quas recipit et tenet ecclesia toto orbe diffusa, quae per illas est etiam prophetata et quemadmodum promissa, sic reddita. ac per hoc illud, quod de generatione Mariae Faustus posuit, quod patrem habuerit ex tribu Leui sacerdotem quendam nomine Ioachim, canonicum non est, non me constringit. sed etiamsi hoc crederem, ipsum potius Ioachim dicerem aliquo modo ad Dauid sanguinem pertinuisse et aliquo modo ex tribu Iuda in tribu Leui fuisse adoptatum, uel ipsum uel eius aliquem progeneratorem, uel certe in tribu Leui ita natum, ut de stirpe Dauid consanguinitatem aliquam duceret: sicut fieri potuisse idem Faustus fatetur, ut Maria de tribu Leui esset, quam tamen constat traditam uiro, qui fuerit de stirpe Dauid, id est de tribu Iuda, et dicit ita potuisse accipi Christum filium Dauid, si Maria filia Ioseph fuisset. proinde si filia Ioseph nupsisset in tribu Leui, non absurde diceretur etiam filius Dauid, quisquis de illa et in tribu Leui natus fuisset. ita si mater illius Ioachim, quem patrem Mariae Faustus commemorat, de tribu Iuda et genere Dauid nupsit in tribu Leui, non inmerito et Ioachim et Maria et filius Mariae etiam sic ex Dauid semine ueraciter perhibentur. hoc ergo potius uel tale aliquid crederem, si illius apocryphae scripturae, ubi Ioachim pater Mariae legitur, auctoritate detinerer, quam mentiri euangelium, in quo scriptum est et Iesum Christum filium dei saluatorem nostrum ex semine Dauid secundum carnem et per uirginem Mariam procreatum. sufficit ergo nobis, quod scripturae, quae hoc dicunt et quibus credimus, ab inimicis suis de nulla possunt falsitate conuinci.

We believe, then, that Mary too was of the kinship of David, because we believe those Scriptures which say both: that Christ was of the seed of David according to the flesh, and that his mother Mary was a virgin, not lying with a man. Whoever, therefore, says that Mary did not belong to the blood-relationship of David plainly struggles against the so excellent authority of these Scriptures. Let him, then, prove that she did not belong to the seed of David, and show this not from any writings whatever, but from ecclesiastical, canonical, Catholic ones. For others have among us no weight of authority in these matters; for these are the ones which the church spread through the whole world receives and holds, which church was also prophesied through them and, as it was promised, so was rendered. And so what Faustus set down about Mary's descent—that she had as father a certain priest of the tribe of Levi named Joachim—is not canonical and does not bind me. But even if I believed it, I would rather say that this Joachim himself belonged in some way to the blood of David, and was in some way adopted from the tribe of Judah into the tribe of Levi, either he himself or one of his forebears, or certainly was born in the tribe of Levi in such a way as to derive some blood-relationship from the stock of David. Just as the same Faustus admits it could have been that Mary was of the tribe of Levi, who nevertheless is known to have been given to a husband who was of the stock of David, that is, of the tribe of Judah, and he says that Christ could have been accepted as the son of David in this way if Mary had been the daughter of Joseph. Accordingly, if a daughter of Joseph had married in the tribe of Levi, whoever was born of her, even in the tribe of Levi, would not absurdly be called the son of David as well. So, if the mother of that Joachim whom Faustus names as Mary's father, being of the tribe of Judah and the family of David, married in the tribe of Levi, then not undeservedly both Joachim and Mary and Mary's son are truly declared, even in this way, to be of the seed of David. This, then, or something like it, I would rather believe, if I were held by the authority of that apocryphal writing in which Joachim is read as Mary's father, than that the gospel lies, in which it is written that Jesus Christ the Son of God, our Saviour, was both of the seed of David according to the flesh and procreated through the Virgin Mary. It is enough for us, then, that the Scriptures which say this, and which we believe, can be convicted of no falsehood by their enemies.

Rom 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Tim 2:8 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 1:23 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Augustine holds that Mary was of David's line because canonical Scripture says Christ was of David's seed through a virgin, and that the apocryphal story of her father Joachim, even if true, could be reconciled with this.

  • Rom 1:3; 2 Tim 2:8; Matt 1:18–23. The “apocryphal writing” naming Joachim is the Protevangelium of James (1.1); Augustine notes that it is not canonical. Augustine's statement on the canonical Scriptures received by the church is translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR letter error): et legum Christum → et Iesum Christum.

Extrabiblical texts: Prot. Jas. 1.1 (Protevangelium of James; allusion)

Topics: Christology, Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 23.9 (CSEL 25.1:714–716; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/23-1/#p-23-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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23.10CSEL 25.1:716–717

Non mihi ergo uicissim dicat: etsi ego non ostendo Mariam non fuisse de cognatione Dauid, tu quod inde fuerit ostende. hoc enim ostendo clarissimo plane atque fortissimo documento, quod scriptura confirmatissimae auctoritatis et Christum dicit ex semine Dauid et eius matrem sine ullius concubitu uirginem Mariam. quam uero sibi Faustus cuiusdam quasi turpitudinis uisus est uerecundissimus detestator, cum diceret: frustra uos calumniam ingeritis scriptori, tamquam dei ille filium in utero mulieris incluserit! non plane catholica fides, quae Christum dei filium natum secundum carnem credit ex uirgine, ullo modo eundem dei filium sic in utero mulieris includit, quasi extra non sit, quasi caeli et terrae administrationem deseruerit, quasi a patre recesserit. sed uos, Manichaei, corde illo, quo nihil potestis nisi corporalia phantasmata cogitare, ista omnino non capitis, quomodo dei uerbum, dei uirtus atque sapientia et in se manens et apud patrem et uniuersam creaturam regens pertendat a fine usque ad finem fortiter et disponat omnia suauiter. in cuius dispositionis admirabili et ineffabili facilitate sibi etiam matrem in terra disposuit et propter seruos suos de corruptionis seruitute liberandos in ea formam serui, hoc est mortale corpus accepit, acceptum monstrauit monstratumque et morte prostratum resurrectione sursum erexit et tamquam templum solutum iterum aedificauit. uos tamen, qui haec credere quasi sacrilega formidatis, non membra dei uestri in utero uirginis. sed in uteris omnium feminarum carnalium ab elephantis usque ad muscas includitis. an ideo uobis uidetur uilior uerus Christus, quia sic uerbum dicimus carnem factum in utero uirginali, ut nulla sui commutatione in natura propria inuiolabiliter permanens templum sibi hominem coaptarit, et ideo uobis carus est deus uester, quia tot uinculis carnium conligatus et inquinatus in illa parte, qua etiam in globo figendus est, sine causa subpetias deprecatur aut etiam penitus obpressus deprecari non sinitur?

Let him not, then, say to me in turn: “Even if I do not show that Mary was not of the kinship of David, show me that she was of it.” For I show this by a proof quite clear and very strong: that Scripture of the most confirmed authority says both that Christ is of the seed of David and that his mother is the Virgin Mary, without intercourse with anyone. And how very modest a detester of some sort of foulness Faustus seemed to himself when he said: “In vain do you slander the writer, as though he had shut up the Son of God in a woman's womb!” The Catholic faith, which believes that Christ the Son of God was born according to the flesh of a virgin, plainly does not in any way so shut up the same Son of God in a woman's womb as though he were not outside it, as though he had abandoned the government of heaven and earth, as though he had withdrawn from the Father. But you, Manichaeans, with that heart with which you can think of nothing but bodily phantasms, do not grasp these things at all: how the Word of God, the power and wisdom of God, both abiding in himself and with the Father and ruling the whole creation, reaches from end to end mightily and orders all things sweetly. In the wonderful and inexpressible ease of this ordering he also arranged for himself a mother on earth, and, to free his servants from the slavery of corruption, received in her the form of a servant, that is, a mortal body; having received it he showed it, having shown it and laid it low in death he raised it up by resurrection, and rebuilt it like a temple destroyed. You, however, who dread believing these things as though they were sacrilegious, shut up the members of your god not in the womb of a virgin but in the wombs of all fleshly females, from elephants to flies. Or does the true Christ seem to you the more contemptible because we say that the Word was made flesh in a virgin's womb in such a way that, abiding inviolably in his own nature without any change of himself, he fitted to himself a man as his temple; and is your god dear to you because, bound by so many chains of flesh and defiled in that part with which he is even to be fixed in the globe, he begs for help to no purpose, or, being utterly overwhelmed, is not even allowed to beg?

1 Cor 1:24 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 8:21 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 2:7 (allusion, high confidence) · John 2:19 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:14 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine answers that the incarnation does not confine the Son of God in Mary's womb, since the Word rules all things while taking a human body, whereas the Manichaeans confine their god in every womb from elephants to flies.

  • 1 Cor 1:24; Wis 8:1; Rom 8:21; Phil 2:7; John 2:19–21; John 1:14. The Manichaean globe, see 22.22.

Extrabiblical texts: Wis 8:1 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 23.10 (CSEL 25.1:716–717; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/23-1/#p-23-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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