Against Faustus the Manichaean 6.9–10.3

Latin text: Zycha, CSEL 25.1 (Latin text: Joseph Zycha, Contra Faustum Manichaeum (CSEL 25.1, 1891), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: NPNF 1/4: Reply to Faustus the Manichaean (Philip Schaff, ed., 1887).

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Chapter 6

6.9CSEL 25.1:299–302

Patres autem nostri, qui deo placuerunt. tenuerunt ordinem suum in ipsa oboedientia. ut quicquid deus temporibus congruis iubendo. distribuit. sic obseruarent. quemadmodum ille distribuit. itaque non solum carnes ad cibos datas, cum omnes natura mundae essent. quasdam tamen nonnulla significatione inmundas illo tempore non ederunt, quo eas non edi praeceptum erat. ut talibus significationibus futura rerum manifestatio praefiguraretur, sed et azymum panem et cetera huiusmodi, in quibus fuisse umbram futurorum dicit apostolus, tam rei essent illius temporis et illius populi homines, si obseruare contemnerent, quando illa sic fieri, ista quae nunc reuelata sunt. tunc sic praenuntiari oportebat, quam nos desipientes essemus, si nunc iam manifesto nouo testamento illas praenuntiatiuas obseruationes aliquid nobis prodesse putaremus. sicut sacrilegi et inpii, si eosdem libros, qui propter nos scripti sunt, ut ea. quae iam nobis reuelata et in manifestatione adnuntiata sunt, tanto ante illis figuris praenuntiata cognoscentes fideliter et firmiter teneremus, ideo putaremus abiciendos. quia ea. quae ibi scripta sunt, non iam obseruare corporaliter. sed intellegere et facere spiritaliter nos dominus iubet; scripta sunt enim propter nos, in quos finis saeculorum obuenit, sicut item dicit idem apostolus. omnia enim, quae ante scripta sunt, ut nos doceremur, scripta sunt. quapropter non manducare azymum per statutos septem dies tempore ueteris testamenti peccatum fuit, tempore autem noui testamenti non est peccatum. sed in spe futuri saeculi, quam habemus in Christo, qui et animam nostram induens iustitia et corpus nostrum induens inmortalitate totos nos innouat, credere aliquid ex ueteris corruptionis necessitate atque indigentia nos passuros uel acturos semper peccatum est, quamdiu uoluuntur isti septem dies, quibus peragitur tempus. sed hoc ueteris testamenti temporibus in figura occultatum a quibusdam sanctis intellegebatur. tempore autem noui testamenti in manifestatione reuelatum populis praedicatur. unde scriptura ipsa tunc erat praeceptum, nunc testimonium. scenopegia non celebrare aliquando peccatum fuit, nunc non est peccatum. tabernaculo autem dei, quod est ecclesia, non conpaginari semper peccatum est. sed tunc agebatur sub praecepto figuratio, nunc legitur in testimonio reuelatio. nam illud, quod tunc factum est, non diceretur tabernaculum testimonii, nisi alicui ueritati, quae suo tempore declaranda erat, quadam congruentia significationis adtestaretur. lineis uestibus miscere purpuram et linostima ueste indui aliquando peccatum fuit, nunc non est peccatum. sed inordinate uiuere et diuersi generis professiones uelle miscere, ut uel sanctimonialis habeat ornamenta nuptarum uel ea quae se non continens nupsit speciem uirginis gerat, omni modo peccatum est; et si quid inconuenienter ex diuerso genere in uita cuiusque contexitur. uerum illud tunc figurabatur in uestibus, quod nunc declaratur in moribus; illud enim erat tempus significandi, hoc manifestandi. ergo ipsa scriptura, quae tunc fuit exactrix operum significantium. nunc testis est rerum significatarum; et quae tunc obseruabatur ad praenuntiationem, nunc recitatur ad confirmationem. bouem et asinum ad operandum iungere tunc non licebat, nunc licet. declaratum est enim per apostolum, cum de boue triturante non infrenando scripturam recoleret dicentem: numquid de bubus cura est deo? quare ergo nunc legitur, quando id quod prohibuit iam licet? quia idem ipse ibi secutus apostolus ait: propter nos scriptura dicit. et utique inpium est, ut non legamus nos, quod scriptum est propter nos; magis enim propter nos, quibus manifestatur, quam propter illos, in quibus figurabatur. bouem quippe et asinum, si necesse sit, unusquisque sine detrimento operis iungit; sapientem uero et stultum, non ut unus praecipiat et alter obtemperet, sed pariter ex aequali potestate, ut adnuntient uerbum dei, non sine scandalo quisque comites facit. itaque eandem scripturam tenemus et tunc potestate praecipientem umbris tegendum, quod nunc aperiretur. et nunc auctoritate adtestantem luce apertum, quod tunc tegebatur. De caluo autem et reburro. quod eos inmundos lex dixerit, parum Faustus adtenderat aut in mendosum codicem inciderat. sed utinam ipse caluam frontem habere uoluisset atque in ea crucem Christi figere non erubuisset! profecto Christum clamantem: ego sum ueritas, nec cum falsis uulneribus occubuisse nec cum falsis cicatricibus resurrexisse credidisset. quin etiam dicit: ego fallere non didici; quod sentio loquor. non est ergo discipulus Christi sui, quem falsas cicatrices dubitantibus discipulis demonstrasse insanus opinatur et non solum de ceteris uanitatibus suis, sed etiam de ipsa Christi fallacia sibi tamquam non fallenti uult credi: utrum Christo melior, quo fallente ipse non fallit, an eo ipso non ueracis Christi, sed fallacis Manichaei discipulus, cum et in hoc fallit, in quo se non didicisse fallere gloriatur.

Our fathers who pleased God kept their order in that very obedience, so as to observe whatever God, by commanding, assigned to suitable times, just as he assigned it. So it was not only that, at the time when it was commanded that certain meats not be eaten, they did not eat them, meats which, though all meats given for food were clean by nature, were unclean by some signification, so that the future manifestation of realities might be prefigured by such significations; but also as to unleavened bread and other such things, in which the apostle says there was a shadow of things to come, the people of that time and that nation would have been as guilty if they had scorned to observe them, when those things had to be done in that way and the things now revealed had to be foretold in that way, as we would be foolish if now, when the New Testament is manifest, we thought that those foretelling observances were of any profit to us; just as we would be sacrilegious and impious if we thought that those same books should be rejected, which were written for our sake, so that, recognizing that what has now been revealed to us and announced in manifestation was foretold so long before by those figures, we might hold it faithfully and firmly; rejected because the Lord commands us no longer to observe bodily what is written there, but to understand and do it spiritually. For they were written for our sake, upon whom the end of the ages has come, as the same apostle also says: “For whatever was written before was written for our instruction.” Therefore, not eating unleavened bread for the appointed seven days was a sin in the time of the Old Testament, but in the time of the New Testament it is not a sin. But in the hope of the world to come, which we have in Christ, who renews us wholly, clothing our soul with righteousness and our body with immortality, to believe that we shall suffer or do anything from the necessity and want of the old corruption is always a sin, as long as these seven days roll on, by which time runs its course. In the times of the Old Testament this, hidden in figure, was understood by certain saints; in the time of the New Testament it is revealed in manifestation and preached to the peoples. Hence the same Scripture was then a precept, and is now a testimony. Not to celebrate the feast of tabernacles was once a sin; now it is not a sin. But not to be built into the tabernacle of God, which is the church, is always a sin. Then, however, the figure was enacted under precept; now the revelation is read as testimony. For what was made then would not be called the tabernacle of testimony unless, by a certain fitness of signification, it testified to some truth that was to be declared in its own time. To mix purple with linen garments and to be clothed in a garment of linen and wool was once a sin; now it is not a sin. But to live in a disorderly way and to want to mix professions of different kinds, so that a consecrated virgin wears the ornaments of married women, or a woman who married because she was not continent bears the appearance of a virgin, is a sin in every way; and so is anything unfittingly woven together from different kinds into anyone’s life. But what was then figured in garments is now declared in conduct; for that was the time of signifying, this of manifesting. So the same Scripture which then exacted works that signified is now a witness to the things signified; and what was then observed for foretelling is now recited for confirming. To yoke an ox and an ass together for work was not then permitted; now it is permitted. For this was made clear through the apostle when, recalling the Scripture that says the threshing ox is not to be muzzled, he said: “Is it for oxen that God cares?” Why then is it read now, when what it forbade is permitted? Because the same apostle goes on there to say: “For our sake Scripture says it.” And surely it is impious for us not to read what was written for our sake; for it was written for our sake, to whom it is made manifest, rather than for theirs, in whom it was figured. For anyone yokes an ox and an ass, if necessary, without harm to the work; but no one makes a wise man and a fool companions, not so that one may command and the other obey, but equally and with equal authority, to proclaim the word of God, without causing scandal. So we hold the same Scripture, which then by its power commanded that what would now be opened should be covered with shadows, and now by its authority testifies to what is opened in the light, which was then covered. As for the bald man and the shaggy-haired man, whom he says the law called unclean, Faustus had paid too little attention, or had come upon a faulty manuscript. But would that he had been willing to have a bare forehead and had not been ashamed to fix the cross of Christ on it! He would surely have believed that Christ, who cries, “I am the truth,” neither died with false wounds nor rose with false scars. Indeed he even says, “I have not learned to deceive; what I think, I say.” So he is not a disciple of his own Christ, who, he madly supposes, showed false scars to his doubting disciples; and he wants to be believed, as one who does not deceive, not only about his other vanities but even about the very deceit of Christ: either he is better than Christ, since Christ deceives and he does not; or by that very fact he is the disciple not of the truthful Christ but of the deceitful Mani, since he deceives even in that in which he boasts that he has not learned to deceive.

Col 2:17 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 10:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 15:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 12:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Lev 23:34 (allusion, medium confidence) · Deut 22:10–11 (allusion, high confidence) · Deut 25:4 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 9:9–10 (quotation, high confidence) · Lev 13:40–41 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 14:6 (quotation, high confidence) · John 20:27 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Augustine explains each ceremonial law Faustus mocked as a figure once binding and now fulfilled in a spiritual meaning, and charges Faustus with a docetic Christ who deceived.

  • Allusions and quotations: Col 2:17; 1 Cor 10:11; Rom 15:4; Exod 12:15; Lev 23:34; Deut 22:10–11; Deut 25:4 with 1 Cor 9:9–10; John 14:6; Luke 24:39–40 and John 20:27 (the scars). On baldness, cf. Lev 13:40–41, where a bald man is declared clean. The “bare forehead” alludes to the sign of the cross traced on the forehead, and to not being ashamed.

Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 6.9 (CSEL 25.1:299–302; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/6-9/#p-6-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 7

7.1CSEL 25.1:302–303

FAUSTUS dixit: Quare non credis in genealogiam Iesu? multae quidem sunt causae, sed palmaris illa, quia nec ipse ore suo usquam se fatetur patrem habere aut genus in terra, sed e contra, quia non sit de hoc mundo, quia a patre deo processerit, quia descenderit de caelo, quia non sibi sint mater et fratres, nisi qui fecerint uoluntatem patris sui, qui in caelis est. et ad haec illi ipsi. qui has ei genealogias ascribunt, non eum ante natiuitatem cognouisse uidentur, sed neque statim, ut natus est, quo crederentur ea scripsisse, quae erga eum oculis suis uiderint gesta, sed iuueni iam et maturo coniuncti sunt ei, id est annorum ferme triginta, siquidem et aetas ascribi diuinis potest sine blasphemia. quare cum in omni testimonio ueritatis hoc semper quaeri soleat, utrumne quis audierit, an uiderit, isti uero nec audisse se fateantur ab ipso generationis hunc ordinem aut quia omnino sit natus, nec uidisse oculis, quia longo post tempore, id est post baptismum cognouerint eum: mihi et omni recte iudicanti tam stultum uidetur hoc credere, quam si quis caecum et surdum testem in iudicium uocet.

Faustus said: Why do you not believe in the genealogy of Jesus? There are many reasons, but the chief one is that he himself nowhere confesses with his own mouth that he has a father or a lineage on earth, but on the contrary that he is not of this world, that he came forth from God the Father, that he came down from heaven, that he has no mother and brothers except those who do the will of his Father who is in heaven. And besides, those very men who ascribe these genealogies to him do not seem to have known him before his birth, nor even immediately after he was born, so that they might be believed to have written what they saw done concerning him with their own eyes; but they joined him when he was already a young man and mature, that is, about thirty years old—if indeed age can be ascribed to divine beings without blasphemy. Therefore, since in all testimony to the truth it is always customary to ask whether one heard or saw, and these men neither claim to have heard from him this order of the generation, or even that he was born at all, nor to have seen it with their eyes, since they came to know him long afterward, that is, after his baptism, it seems to me, and to everyone who judges rightly, as foolish to believe this as if someone were to call a blind and deaf witness into court.

John 8:23 (allusion, high confidence) · John 16:28 (allusion, high confidence) · John 6:38 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 12:48–50 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 3:23 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Faustus rejects the genealogy because Jesus never speaks of an earthly father and the evangelists were not eyewitnesses of his birth.

  • Allusions: John 8:23; John 16:28; John 6:38; Matt 12:48–50; Luke 3:23.

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 7.1 (CSEL 25.1:302–303; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/6-9/#p-7-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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7.2CSEL 25.1:303–305

AUGUSTINUS respondit: Quam dicit palmarem causam, cur non accipiat genealogian Iesu Christi. ibi apertissime uictus ostenditur legentibus, quae supra diximus de filio hominis, quod tam crebro se Christus esse testatur, et de filio dei, quomodo idem ipse sit et filius hominis, quomodo secundum diuinitatem non habeat genus in terra, secundum carnem autem sit ex semine Dauid, secundum quod apostolica doctrina testatur. unde oportet eum credi et intellegi et a patre exisse et de caelo uenisse et hic tamen uerbum carnem factum inter homines habitasse. quodsi propterea putant eum non habuisse in terra matrem uel genus, quia dixit: quae mihi mater uel qui fratres? superest, ut etiam discipulos eius, quibus hoc exemplum in se ipso praebuit, ut terreni generis necessitudinem propter regnum caelorum contemnerent, adfirment non habuisse patres, quia dixit eis: ne uobis dicatis patrem in terra; unus est enim pater uester deus. quod ergo istos de patribus docuit, hoc ipse de matre et fratribus prior fecit, sicut et alia multa, in quibus se nobis, ut eum imitaremur, praebere et, ut sequeremur, praeire dignatus est. quapropter iste, qui in eo, quod putat palmare, sic uincitur, quam iaceat et inuoluatur in ceteris animaduertendum est. quippe qui propterea dicit non credendum apostolis, qui eius non solum diuinam, sed etiam humanam natiuitatem adnuntiauerunt, quia postea iuueni adhaeserunt et nec uiderunt eum natum nec se hoc ab illo audisse dixerunt. cur ergo credunt Iohanni dicenti: in principio erat uerbum et uerbum erat apud deum et deus erat uerbum; hoc erat in principio apud deum; omnia per ipsum facta sunt et sine ipso factum est nihil et cetera, quae illis quamuis non intellegentibus tamen placent? dicant. ubi hoc Iohannes uiderit aut ubi se hoc ab ipso domino audisse dixerit. quicquid enim dixerint, unde hoc Iohannes scire potuerit, inde credimus etiam omnes adnuntiatores natiuitatis Christi id, quod adnuntiauerunt, scire potuisse. deinde quaero, unde credant dixisse dominum: quae mihi mater aut qui fratres? si quia hoc euangelista narrauit, cur ei non credunt et illud: quia mater eius et fratres quaerebant eum? si autem hoc mentitus est, quod nolunt credere, quomodo ei credunt Christum dixisse. quod nolunt intellegere? deinde si Christum natum. quia iam iuueni adhaeserat. non potuit nosse Matthaeus, unde potuit Christum non natum post tot annos natus nosse Manichaeus? dicturi sunt: spiritus sanctus hoc sciebat, qui erat in Manichaeo. ille sane si spiritus sanctus esset, uera dixisset. sed cur non potius de Christo discipulis eius, qui etiam corporaliter ei adhaeserunt, credimus, qui non solum per spiritum sanctum ab ipso inpertitum scire potuerunt, si quid lateret in rebus humanis, sed tam recenti et praesenti memoria etiam solo humano sensu genus Christi secundum carnem et totam originem conlegerunt? et tamen caeci et surdi testes dicuntur apostoli. utinam tu non tantum caecus et surdus fuisses, ne tam uana et sacrilega disceres, sed etiam mutus, ne talia diceres!

Augustine replied: As to what he calls the chief reason why he does not accept the genealogy of Jesus Christ, there he is shown to be most plainly defeated, to those who read what we said above about the Son of Man, as Christ so often testifies that he is, and about the Son of God, how he himself is also the Son of Man; how according to his divinity he has no lineage on earth, but according to the flesh is of the seed of David, as apostolic teaching testifies. Hence he must be believed and understood both to have come forth from the Father and to have come from heaven, and yet here, the Word made flesh, to have dwelt among human beings. But if they think that he had no mother or lineage on earth because he said, “Who is my mother, or who are my brothers?”, it remains for them to assert that his disciples too had no fathers, the disciples to whom he gave in himself this example, that they should despise the ties of earthly kinship for the sake of the kingdom of heaven, because he said to them, “Call no one your father on earth; for you have one Father, God.” So what he taught them about fathers he himself first did with regard to his mother and brothers, as with many other things in which he deigned to offer himself to us for imitation and to go before us so that we might follow. Therefore, since this man is so defeated in what he thinks his chief point, we must notice how he lies prostrate and entangled in the rest. For he says that the apostles should not be believed, who proclaimed not only his divine but also his human birth, because they joined him later as a young man, and neither saw him born nor said they had heard it from him. Why then do they believe John when he says, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God; he was in the beginning with God; all things were made through him, and without him nothing was made,” and the rest, which please them, though they do not understand it? Let them say where John saw this, or where he said he heard it from the Lord himself. For whatever they say about how John could know this, from that same source we believe that all who proclaimed Christ’s birth could know what they proclaimed. Next, I ask on what ground they believe the Lord said, “Who is my mother, or who are my brothers?” If it is because the evangelist narrated it, why do they not believe him also when he says that his mother and brothers were looking for him? But if he lied in what they will not believe, how do they believe him that Christ said what they will not understand? Next, if Matthew could not know that Christ was born, because he joined him when he was already a young man, how could Mani, born so many years later, know that Christ was not born? They will say: “The Holy Spirit, who was in Mani, knew this.” If he were indeed the Holy Spirit, he would have spoken the truth. But why should we not rather believe about Christ his disciples, who also clung to him bodily, who could know whatever was hidden in human affairs not only through the Holy Spirit imparted by him, but also, with memory so recent and present, could gather even by mere human sense the lineage of Christ according to the flesh and his whole origin? And yet the apostles are called blind and deaf witnesses. Would that you had been not only blind and deaf, so as not to learn such vain and sacrilegious things, but also mute, so as not to say them!

Rom 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · John 16:28 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 3:13 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 1:14 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 12:48 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 23:9 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1–3 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 12:46–47 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine answers that Christ is Son of God and of David, that renouncing kin was an example to disciples, and that the apostles were better witnesses than Mani, born centuries later.

  • Allusions and quotations: Rom 1:3; John 16:28; John 3:13; John 1:14; Matt 12:48; Matt 23:9; John 1:1–3; Matt 12:46–47. Mani claimed that the Paraclete spoke through him.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): in principio erat. uerbum → in principio erat uerbum.

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 7.2 (CSEL 25.1:303–305; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/6-9/#p-7-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 8

8.1CSEL 25.1:305–306

FAUSTUS dixit: Quare non accipis testamentum uetus? quia iam praeuentus sum nouo; ueteri autem et nouo non conuenit, ut scriptura testatur. nam pannum, inquit, nouum nemo adsuit uestimento ueteri, alioquin maior scissura fiet. quia ergo maiorem sicuti uos scissuram facere caueo, christianam nouitatem Hebraicae uetustati non misceo. quis enim non etiam sordidum iudicet nouis uestibus indutis non donare inferioribus ueteres? quapropter ego, etiam si natus essem Iudaeus, ut fuerunt apostoli, dignum tamen erat me nouo accepto testamento uetus repudiare, ut fecerunt ipsi. nunc uero et naturae beneficio consecutus, ut sub seruitutis iugo non nascerer, et Christo mihi protinus occurrente cum pleno munere libertatis, quam miser et stultus et insuper ingratus ero, si me ultro addixero seruituti? quippe Paulus inde Galatas arguit, quod in circumcisionem relabentes ad infirma repedarent et egena elementa, quibus denuo seruire uellent. quomodo ergo id ego admittam, in quo alium uideam reprehendi? turpe est redire in seruitutem, sed turpius ire.

Faustus said: Why do you not accept the Old Testament? Because I have already been taken up by the New; and the old and the new do not go together, as Scripture testifies. For “No one,” it says, “sews a new patch on an old garment; otherwise a greater tear will be made.” So, because I take care not to make a greater tear, as you do, I do not mix Christian newness with Hebrew oldness. For who would not judge it even mean, having put on new clothes, not to give the old ones to inferiors? Therefore, even if I had been born a Jew, as the apostles were, it would still have been right for me, having received the New Testament, to repudiate the Old, as they did. But as it is, since by the kindness of nature I was not born under the yoke of slavery, and Christ met me at once with the full gift of freedom, how wretched and foolish, and ungrateful besides, I shall be if I hand myself over to slavery of my own accord! Indeed Paul reproves the Galatians because, sliding back into circumcision, they were returning to the weak and beggarly elements, which they wished to serve again. How then shall I admit what I see another rebuked for? It is shameful to return to slavery, but more shameful to go into it.

Matt 9:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 4:9 (allusion, high confidence) · Gal 5:1 (echo, medium confidence)

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Summary: Faustus argues from the new patch on an old garment and from Galatians that Christians should not take up the Old Testament.

  • Matt 9:16; Gal 4:9; cf. Gal 5:1.

Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 8.1 (CSEL 25.1:305–306; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/6-9/#p-8-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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8.2CSEL 25.1:306–307

AUGUSTINUS respondit: Iam quidem satis superius ostendimus, quare et quomodo teneamus auctoritatem ueteris testamenti non ad Iudaicae seruitutis imitationem, sed ad christianae libertatis testificationem. neque enim mea, sed apostoli uox est: quia omnia haec in figura contingebant illis; scripta autem sunt propter nos, in quos finis saeculorum obuenit. quapropter non in seruitute facimus, quae iussa sunt ad nos praenuntiandos, sed in libertate legimus, quae scripta sunt ad nos confirmandos. quis itaque iam non intellegat, unde Galatas reuocat apostolus, non religiose scripturam circumcisionis legentes, sed iam superstitiose circumcidi uolentes? unde non pannum nouum uestimento ueteri adsuimus, sed erudimur in regno caelorum ad similitudinem illius patris familias, quem commemorat dominus proferentem de thesauro suo noua et uetera. ille autem adsuit pannum nouum uestimento ueteri, qui continentiam uult habere spiritalem et nondum deposuit spem carnalem. nam legite diligenter et uidete de ieiunio dominum interrogatum respondisse: nemo adsuit pannum nouum uestimento ueteri. adhuc enim discipuli dominum carnaliter diligebant, quandoquidem etiam, ne occisum amitterent, formidabant. unde Petrum reuocantem se a passione satanan appellat. quod non saperet, quae dei sunt. sed quae hominum. proinde adtendite in illa phantasia uestra de regno dei, unde istam lucem solis carni conspicuam tamquam ad exemplum uobis propositam diligitis et adoratis, quam carnalem spem geratis, et inuenietis ieiunia uestra quomodo prudentiae carnis tamquam uestimento ueteri adsuantur. uerumtamen cum pannus nouus uestimento ueteri non conueniat, unde potuerunt principibus tenebrarum membra dei uestri non adiuncta atque consuta, sed, quod est uehementius, commixta et concreta cohaerere? an utrumque uetus est, quia utrumque falsum, et utrumque de prudentia carnis est? nisi forte inde uultis probare unum fuisse nouum. alterum uetus, quia maior scissura facta est, ut miserabilis pannus de regno lucis abscinderetur et globo tenebrarum aeterna poena configeretur. et tamen argute sibi uidetur uelut acu linguae diuinarum scripturarum firmamenta conpungere talium fabularum sordidus sartor aut mendicus indutor.

Augustine replied: We have already shown sufficiently above why and how we hold the authority of the Old Testament, not to imitate Jewish servitude but to testify to Christian freedom. For it is not my voice but the apostle’s: “All these things happened to them in figure; but they were written for our sake, upon whom the end of the ages has come.” Therefore we do not do in servitude what was commanded in order to foretell us, but we read in freedom what was written in order to confirm us. Who then does not now understand from what the apostle calls the Galatians back: not from reading devoutly the Scripture about circumcision, but from wanting, in superstition, to be circumcised? So we do not sew a new patch on an old garment, but are instructed in the kingdom of heaven after the likeness of that householder whom the Lord mentions, who brings out of his treasure new things and old. He sews a new patch on an old garment who wants to have spiritual continence but has not yet laid aside carnal hope. For read carefully and see that the Lord, when he was asked about fasting, answered, “No one sews a new patch on an old garment.” For the disciples still loved the Lord carnally, since they even feared losing him if he were killed. Hence, when Peter tried to call him back from his passion, he calls him Satan, because he did not savor the things of God but the things of men. So pay attention to how carnal a hope you bear in that fantasy of yours about the kingdom of God, the reason you love and worship this light of the sun, visible to the flesh, as if it were set before you as a model; and you will find how your fasts are sewn onto the wisdom of the flesh as onto an old garment. Yet since a new patch does not suit an old garment, how could the members of your God cleave to the princes of darkness, not joined and sewn on, but, what is more violent, mixed and compacted with them? Or are both old, because both are false and both come from the wisdom of the flesh? Unless perhaps you want to prove from this that one was new and the other old, because a greater tear was made, so that a wretched patch was cut off from the kingdom of light and fixed to the globe of darkness in eternal punishment. And yet this filthy tailor of such fables, or beggarly patcher, thinks himself clever in pricking, as it were with the needle of his tongue, the firm foundations of the divine Scriptures.

1 Cor 10:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 5:2–4 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 13:52 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 9:14–16 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 16:21–23 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 8:6–7 (echo, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine answers that catholics read the Old Testament in freedom as testimony, and turns the parable of the new patch against Manichaean fasting and myth.

  • Quotations and allusions: 1 Cor 10:11; Gal 5:2–4; Matt 13:52; Matt 9:14–16; Matt 16:21–23. “Wisdom of the flesh” (prudentia carnis) echoes Rom 8:6–7.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray mark in the digital text): proferentem ' de → proferentem de.

Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 8.2 (CSEL 25.1:306–307; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/6-9/#p-8-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 9

9.1CSEL 25.1:307–308

FAUSTUS dixit: Quare non accipis uetus testamentum? si apostolis licuit sub eodem natis ab eo discedere, mihi quare non liceat in quo natus non sum, non usurpare? omnes quippe gentiles nascimur. non Iudaei, non denique christiani. sed alios ad se ex eadem gentilitate testamentum uetus adducit facitque Iudaeos, alios nouum et initiat christianos, tamquam si duae arbores, dulcis et amara, radicibus suis unius terrae in se uim transferant mutandam qualitatibus suis. apostolis ergo in dulcem transeuntibus ex amaro, quam demens ero ego, si in amarum conuertar ex dulci?

Faustus said: Why do you not accept the Old Testament? If the apostles, who were born under it, were allowed to depart from it, why should I not be allowed not to lay claim to that under which I was not born? For we are all born Gentiles, not Jews, and certainly not Christians. But out of that same Gentile state the Old Testament draws some to itself and makes them Jews, and the New draws others and initiates them as Christians; as if two trees, a sweet one and a bitter one, by their roots drew into themselves the strength of the one soil, to be changed into their own qualities. So, since the apostles pass from the bitter to the sweet, how mad shall I be if I turn from the sweet to the bitter!

Notes and citation

Summary: Faustus argues that, born a Gentile, he should not take up the Old Testament, which the Jewish apostles themselves left.

  • Faustus’s image of the bitter tree for the Old Testament is his own polemic.

Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 9.1 (CSEL 25.1:307–308; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/6-9/#p-9-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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9.2CSEL 25.1:308–310

AUGUSTINUS respondit: Cur ergo apostolus, quem dicis relicto iudaismo ex amaritudine transisse in dulcedinem, magis inde fractos ramos dicit, qui ex ipso populo in Christo credere noluerunt, et in ipsa oleae radice, id est origine sanctorum Hebraeorum. tamquam oleastrum gentes insertas ut fierent participes pinguedinis oleae? nam cum de Iudaeorum lapsu admoneret gentes, ne superbirent. ita locutus est: uobis enim, inquit, dico, gentes, quamdiu quidem ego sum gentium apostolus. ministerium meum glorificabo. si quo modo ad aemulationem prouocare potero carnem meam. ut saluos faciam aliquos ex illis. si reiectio illorum reconciliatio est mundi, quae erit adsumptio nisi uita ex mortuis? si autem delibatio sancta est, et consparsio: et si radix sancta est, et rami. quodsi aliqui ex ramis fracti sunt, tu autem cum esses oleaster, insertus es in illis et socius radicis factus es et pinguedinis oleae, noli gloriari aduersus ramos. quodsi gloriaris, non tu radicem portas, sed radix te. dicis ergo: fracti sunt rami, ut ego inserar. bene. incredulitate fracti sunt. tu autem fide stas, noli altum sapere, sed time; nam si deus naturalibus ramis non pepercit. neque tibi parcet. uides ergo bonitatem et seueritatem dei: in eos quidem, qui ceciderunt, seueritatem, in te autem bonitatem, si permanseris in bonitate; alioquin et tu excideris. et illi si non permanserint in incredulitate, inserentur; potens est enim deus iterum inserere illos. nam si tu ex naturali excisus oleastro et contra naturam insertus es in bonam oliuam, quanto magis illi, qui secundum naturam sunt, inserentur suae oliuae? nolo enim uos ignorare. fratres, sacramentum hoc. ut non sitis uobis sapientes, quia caecitas ex parte Israhel facta est, donec plenitudo gentium intraret. et sic omnis Israhel saluus fieret. uidetis ergo uos, qui in ista inseri radice non uultis, non quidem fractis ramis esse similes, sicut est carnalis et inpius populus Iudaeorum, sed in oleastri amaritudine remansisse. nam quid nisi oleastrum gentium sapit adorare solem et lunam? nisi forte propterea uos iam non putatis esse in oleastro gentium. quia spinas noui generis addidistis et falsum Christum, quem cum sole et luna coleretis, non manu fabrili, sed peruerso corde finxistis? inserimini ergo in radicem oleae, quo se redditum gaudet apostolus, qui inter fractos ramos per incredulitatem fuit. inde se quippe liberatum dicit, cum se a iudaismo ad Christum transisse laetatur, quia Christus semper in illa radice atque in illa arbore praedicatus est: in quem uenientem qui non crediderunt, fracti sunt inde; et qui crediderunt, inserti sunt ibi. quibus ne superbiant, dicitur: noli altum sapere, sed time; nam si deus naturalibus ramis non pepercit, neque tibi parcet. sed ne de ipsis fractis desperetur, paulo post dicit: et ipsi si non permanserint in infidelitate, inserentur; potens est enim deus iterum inserere illos. nam si tu ex naturali excisus oleastro et contra naturam insertus es in bonam oliuam. quanto magis illi, qui secundum naturam sunt, inserentur suae oliuae? ecce unde etiam ipse gloriatur a fractura liberatus et radicis pinguedini redditus. qui ergo in uobis sunt, quos inde fregit inpietas, redeant et rursus inserantur; qui autem numquam ibi fuerunt, ueniant a naturali sterilitate praecisi participes fecunditatis futuri.

Augustine replied: Why then does the apostle, who you say left Judaism and passed from bitterness to sweetness, say rather that those of that people who would not believe in Christ were branches broken off from there, and that the Gentiles were grafted, like a wild olive, into the very root of the olive, that is, into the origin of the holy Hebrews, so that they might become sharers in the richness of the olive? For when he was warning the Gentiles about the fall of the Jews, so that they would not be proud, he spoke thus: “For I say to you Gentiles,” he says, “inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I will glorify my ministry, if somehow I may provoke my flesh to emulation and save some of them. For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? If the firstfruits are holy, so is the lump; and if the root is holy, so are the branches. But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, though you were a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became a sharer in the root and richness of the olive, do not boast against the branches. If you do boast, it is not you who bear the root, but the root you. You will say, then, Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in. Well: they were broken off through unbelief, but you stand by faith. Do not be high-minded, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. See, then, the kindness and severity of God: severity toward those who fell, but kindness toward you, if you remain in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off. And they too, if they do not remain in unbelief, will be grafted in; for God is able to graft them in again. For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive and grafted, contrary to nature, into a good olive, how much more will those who are natural branches be grafted into their own olive? For I do not want you to be ignorant, brothers, of this mystery, so that you may not be wise in your own eyes: that blindness has come upon Israel in part, until the fullness of the Gentiles should come in, and so all Israel should be saved.” You see, then, that you who will not be grafted into this root are not indeed like the broken branches, as the carnal and impious people of the Jews is, but have remained in the bitterness of the wild olive. For what savors of the wild olive of the Gentiles more than worshipping the sun and moon? Unless perhaps you think you are no longer in the wild olive of the Gentiles because you have added thorns of a new kind, and a false Christ, whom, along with the sun and moon, you worship, fashioned not by a craftsman’s hand but by a perverse heart? Be grafted, then, into the root of the olive, to which the apostle rejoices that he was restored, who had been among the branches broken off through unbelief. For he says that he was freed from that state when he rejoices that he passed from Judaism to Christ, because Christ was always preached in that root and in that tree; and when he came, those who did not believe in him were broken off from it, and those who believed were grafted in there. To these, lest they be proud, it is said: “Do not be high-minded, but fear; for if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you.” But lest the broken branches themselves despair, he says a little later: “And they too, if they do not remain in unbelief, will be grafted in; for God is able to graft them in again. For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive and grafted, contrary to nature, into a good olive, how much more will those who are natural branches be grafted into their own olive?” See, this is why he himself glories, freed from the breaking off and restored to the richness of the root. So let those among you whom impiety has broken off from there return and be grafted in again; and let those who were never there come, cut away from their natural barrenness, to become sharers in its fruitfulness.

Rom 11:13–25 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 11:26 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine answers with Paul’s olive tree: the Gentiles are grafted into the holy root of Israel, in which Christ was always preached, and the Manichaeans remain in the wild olive of paganism.

  • Quotation: Rom 11:13–25, repeated in part. Augustine’s description of the unbelieving “carnal and impious people of the Jews” is his own polemical language; he also cites Paul’s hope that they will be grafted in again.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (misprint in the digital text): pinquedinis → pinguedinis.

Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 9.2 (CSEL 25.1:308–310; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/6-9/#p-9-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 10

10.1CSEL 25.1:310

FAUSTUS dixit: Cur non accipis testamentum uetus? quia et ab ipso hoc et ex nouo didicimus aliena non concupiscere. quid autem, inquis, alienum habet. testamentum uetus? immo quid habet non alienum? diuitias promittit et uentris saturitatem et filios et nepotes uitamque longam et cum his Chananitidis regnum, sed omnia haec circumcisis et obseruantibus sabbata et immolantibus sibi et abstinentibus a porcina et huiusmodi ceteris: quae quia ego neglego et christianus omnis, ut inepta scilicet et ad salutem animi minime pertinentia, idcirco nec quae promittit. ad me iam expectare cognosco, memorque quia sit mandatum: non concupisces aliena, Iudaeis bona sua habere libens uolensque permisi solo scilicet euangelio et regni caelorum splendida hereditate contentus. nam ut Iudaeo, si sibi euangelium usurparet. iure increpitans dicerem: "inprobe, quid tibi cum eo est, cuius praecepta non seruas?" sic uereor, ne mihi eadem Iudaeus increpitet tenenti testamentum uetus, cuius mandata contemnam.

Faustus said: Why do you not accept the Old Testament? Because both from it and from the New we have learned not to covet what belongs to others. “But what,” you say, “does the Old Testament contain that belongs to others?” Rather, what does it contain that does not? It promises riches and a full belly and sons and grandsons and long life, and, along with these, the kingdom of Canaan; but all these to those who are circumcised, who keep sabbaths, who sacrifice to him, and who abstain from pork and other such things. Since I, and every Christian, neglect these things, as silly, of course, and not at all pertaining to the salvation of the soul, I recognize that what it promises is therefore no longer to be expected by me; and, mindful that the commandment is, “You shall not covet what belongs to others,” I have gladly and willingly allowed the Jews to keep their own goods, content, of course, with the gospel alone and the splendid inheritance of the kingdom of heaven. For just as, if a Jew claimed the gospel for himself, I would rightly rebuke him, saying, “Shameless man, what have you to do with that whose precepts you do not keep?”, so I fear that a Jew may rebuke me in the same way for holding the Old Testament, whose commandments I despise.

Exod 20:17 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Faustus says the Old Testament’s earthly promises belong to the Jews who keep its law, and that the commandment against coveting forbids him to claim them.

  • Exod 20:17.

Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 10.1 (CSEL 25.1:310; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/6-9/#p-10-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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10.2CSEL 25.1:310–311

AUGUSTINUS respondit: Eadem saepe uana repetere istum non pudet, sed eadem saepe quamuis uera respondere me piget. quisquis itaque etiam aduersus ista responsionem quaerit, quae superius a nobis dicta sunt, legat. Iudaeo autem dicenti mihi: "cur tenes uetus testamentum, cuius praecepta non seruas?" respondeo seruari a christianis etiam ex ipsis libris praecepta uitae agendae; praecepta uero. uitae significandae tunc recte obseruata, cum praenuntiabantur ista, quae nunc reuelata sunt. quapropter etiam ipsa sic non obseruo ad religionem, ut teneam tamen ad testificationem, sicut et promissa carnalia, quae ibi continentur, unde proprie uetus dicitur testamentum. quamuis mihi aeterna speranda reuelata sint, et illa tamen adtestantia lego. quae in figura contingebant illis; scripta autem sunt propter nos, in quos finis saeculorum obuenit. itaque si audistis, quid respondeamus Iudaeis, audite et quod obiciam Manichaeis.

Augustine replied: He is not ashamed to repeat the same vain things often, but I am weary of often giving the same answers, true though they are. So whoever seeks an answer to these points too, let him read what we have said above. But to a Jew who says to me, “Why do you hold the Old Testament, whose precepts you do not keep?”, I answer that Christians do keep, even from those very books, the precepts for the conduct of life; while the precepts for signifying life were rightly observed then, when the things now revealed were being foretold. Therefore I do not observe even these as a matter of religion, yet in such a way that I hold them as testimony; just as with the carnal promises it contains, from which it is properly called the Old Testament: though eternal things to be hoped for have been revealed to me, I nevertheless read those too as bearing witness. These things happened to them in figure; but they were written for our sake, upon whom the end of the ages has come. So, if you have heard what we answer the Jews, hear also what I object to the Manichaeans.

1 Cor 10:11 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine answers that Christians keep the Old Testament’s moral precepts and hold its figurative precepts and earthly promises as testimony.

  • 1 Cor 10:11.

Topics: Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 10.2 (CSEL 25.1:310–311; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/6-9/#p-10-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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10.3CSEL 25.1:311–313

Certe Faustus dixit turbari nos posse, si nobis Iudaei dixerint: quare tenetis uetus testamentum, cuius praecepta non obseruatis? quibus nos eiusdem scripturae uenerata atque seruata auctoritate respondemus. uos quid respondetis, cum uobis dicitur: quare tenetis euangelicos libros, quorum uos ad decipiendos inperitos confingitis sectatores, et quae ibi scripta sunt, non solum non creditis, sed etiam quantis potestis uiribus obpugnatis? certe uidetis uos potius de nouo testamento quam nos de uetere obiectis respondere non posse. omnia enim quae in uetere scripta sunt, nos et uera esse dicimus et diuinitus mandata et congruis temporibus distributa. uos autem, cum uobis obiecta fuerint, quae in libris noui testamenti scripta sunt nec accipiuntur a uobis, deficientes in respondendo et manifesta ueritate faucibus pressis anhelitu saucio dicitis esse falsata. quid aliud possent exspirare praefocata ora fallacium? uel potius quid aliud possent putere confossa cadauera mortuorum? et tamen confessus est Faustus non concupiscere aliena non solum se ex nouo testamento, sed etiam ex uetere didicisse: quod certe a suo deo non posset discere. ille quippe. si non concupiuit aliena. quare super terram tenebrarum, ubi numquam fuerunt, noua saecula construxit? an dicturus est: prior ipsa gens tenebrarum regnum meum concupiuit. quod ab illa erat alienum? ergo imitatus est gentem tenebrarum, ut et ipse concupisceret aliena? an angustum antea fuerat regnum lucis? optandum igitur erat bellum, ut adquireretur de uictoria latitudo regnandi. quod si bonum est, et ante potuit concupisci, sed expectabatur, ut gens hostilis in bellum prior erumperet. quo quasi iustius expugnaretur. si autem non est bonum, quare inimico uicto super alienam terram crescere uoluit regnum suum, cum prius contentus suis finibus plena felicitate uixisset? sed utinam uere isti haec ipsa praecepta uitae agendae, quorum est unum. ne concupiscamus alienum, uellent ex illis litteris discere, profecto mansuescerent et mites intellegerent etiam illa praecepta uitae significandae, quibus eorum oblatrat offensio, et illi tunc tempori obseruanda congruisse et huic nunc tempori intellegenda congruere. nos autem quomodo uetus testamentum tamquam alienum concupiscimus. cum ea legamus, quae in figura contingebant illis; scripta sunt autem propter nos. in quos finis saeculorum obuenit? puto, quod non concupiscit alienum. qui hoc legit. quod scriptum est propter ipsum.

Faustus certainly said that we could be troubled if the Jews said to us, “Why do you hold the Old Testament, whose precepts you do not observe?” We answer them while venerating and preserving the authority of that Scripture. What do you answer when it is said to you: “Why do you hold the gospel books, whose followers you pretend to be in order to deceive the unskilled, while what is written there you not only do not believe but even attack with all the strength you can?” Surely you see that it is rather you who cannot answer objections about the New Testament, than we about the Old. For everything written in the Old we say is true, divinely commanded, and assigned to suitable times. But you, when things written in the books of the New Testament which you do not accept are brought against you, failing to answer, with your throats squeezed by manifest truth, say with wounded breath that they have been falsified. What else could the choked mouths of deceivers breathe out? Or rather, what else but stench could the pierced corpses of the dead give off? And yet Faustus confessed that he had learned not to covet what belongs to others not only from the New Testament but also from the Old; which he certainly could not have learned from his own God. For if he did not covet what belonged to others, why did he build new worlds upon the land of darkness, where they had never been? Or will he say: “First the nation of darkness itself coveted my kingdom, which did not belong to it”? Then did he imitate the nation of darkness, so that he too coveted what belonged to others? Or was the kingdom of light cramped before? Then war was to be wished for, so that breadth of rule might be acquired by victory. If that is good, it could have been coveted before as well; but he was waiting for the hostile nation to break out into war first, so that it might be attacked, as it were, more justly. But if it is not good, why, once the enemy was conquered, did he want his kingdom to grow over another’s land, when before, content with his own borders, he had lived in full happiness? But would that these men truly wished to learn from those writings these very precepts for the conduct of life, one of which is that we should not covet what belongs to others! They would surely grow gentle and, being meek, would understand also those precepts for signifying life, at which their offense barks: that they suited that time for observing and suit this time for understanding. And how do we covet the Old Testament as belonging to others, when we read the things which happened to them in figure, but were written for our sake, upon whom the end of the ages has come? I think that one who reads what was written for his own sake does not covet what belongs to others.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Exod 20:17 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 10:11 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine turns the question back: the Manichaeans cannot answer for the New Testament, which they claim is falsified, and their own God coveted the land of darkness.

  • The Manichaeans held that the New Testament had been corrupted by interpolations. Quotations: Exod 20:17; 1 Cor 10:11.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (misprint in the digital text): Iudae dixerint → Iudaei dixerint.

Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 10.3 (CSEL 25.1:311–313; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/6-9/#p-10-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Zycha (CSEL 25.1, 1891); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation of R. Stothert in NPNF¹ 4 (1887).