On Two Souls 1–13
Latin text: Zycha, CSEL 25 (Latin text: Joseph Zycha, De duabus animabus (CSEL 25.1, 1891), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 4 (1887), "On Two Souls, Against the Manichæans.".
Chapter 1
1CSEL 25:51–52
Opitulante dei misericordia disruptis et derelictis Manichaeorum laqueis tandem catholicae gremio restitutum libet considerare nunc saltem ac deplorare illam miseriam meam. multa enim erant, quae facere debui, ne tam facile ac diebus paucis religionis uerissimae semina mihi a pueritia salubriter insita errore uel fraude falsorum fallaciumue hominum effossa ex animo pellerentur. nam primo animarum illa duo genera, quibus ita singulas naturas propriasque tribuerunt, ut alterum de ipsa dei esse substantia, alterius uero deum ne conditorem quidem uelint accipi. si mecum sobrie diligenterque considerassem mente in deum subplici et pia, fortasse mihi satagenti adparuisset nullam esse qualemlibet uitam, quae non eo ipso, quo uita est et in quantum omnino uita est, ad summum uitae fontem principiumque pertineat: quod nihil aliud quam summum et solum et uerum deum possumus confiteri. quapropter illas animas, quae a Manichaeis uocantur malae, aut carere uita et animas non esse neque quicquam uelle seu nolle. adpetere uel fugere, aut si uiuerent, ut et animae esse possent et aliquid tale agere, quale illi opinarentur nullo modo eas nisi uita uiuere; ac si Christum dixisse constaret, ut constat: ego sum uita. nihil esse causae, cur non omnes animas, cum animae nisi uiuendo esse non possint. per Christum, id est per uitam creatas et conditas fateremur.
Now that, by the help of God's mercy, the snares of the Manichaeans have been broken and left behind, and I have at last been restored to the bosom of the catholic Church, I wish at least now to consider and lament that misery of mine. For there were many things I ought to have done so that the seeds of the truest religion, implanted in me healthfully from boyhood, should not have been so easily, and in a few days, dug up and driven out of my mind by the error or fraud of false and deceitful men. For first, as to those two kinds of souls, to which they assigned such separate and proper natures that one is of the very substance of God, while God is not even willing to be accepted as the creator of the other: if I had considered this with myself soberly and carefully, with a mind humble and devout toward God, perhaps it would have become clear to me, as I strove, that there is no life of any kind which, by the very fact that it is life and insofar as it is life at all, does not belong to the highest fount and principle of life; and this we can confess to be nothing other than the highest, only, and true God. Therefore those souls which the Manichaeans call evil either lack life, and are not souls, and neither will nor refuse anything, neither seek nor flee anything; or, if they live, so that they can both be souls and do anything such as those people imagine, they live by nothing but life. And if it were established that Christ said, as it is established that he said, “I am the life,” there would be no reason why we should not confess that all souls, since they cannot be souls except by living, were created and founded through Christ, that is, through the life.
John 14:6 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Restored to the catholic Church, Augustine laments that he did not see that every soul, being alive, must come from God, the source of life, and through Christ, who is the life.
- Augustine wrote this soon after his ordination (ca. 391–392) against the Manichaean teaching of two kinds of souls, one of God's substance and one evil and not made by God. John 14:6 (cf. 11:25).
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Duab. an. 1 (CSEL 25:51–52; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-duabus-animabus/1/#p-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 2
2CSEL 25:52–53
Quod si tempore illo quaestionem de ipsa uita et de participatione uitae mea cogitatio ferre ac sustinere non posset — quae profecto magna est et multum serenae disputationis inter doctissimos indigens — illud dispicere fortasse ualuissem, quod omni homini sese sine studio partium bene consideranti manifestissime adparet omne, quod scire et nosse dicimur aut sensu corporis aut intellegentia nos habere conprehensum. sensus autem corporis etiam uulgo quinque numerari: uisum, auditum, odoratum. gustatum atque tactum: quibus omnibus intellegentiam longe alteque praestare et excellere, quis mihi non uel ingratus inpiusque concederet? quo constituto atque firmato illud consequi, ut cuncta, quae tactu et uisu uel quolibet alio modo corporaliter sentirentur. tanto essent inferiora his, quae intellegendo adsequeremur. quanto ipsos sensus intellegentiae cedere uideremus. quamobrem cum omnis uita et ob hoc omnis anima nullo corporis sensu, sed solo intellectu percipi queat, sol autem iste atque luna omnisque lux. quae mortalibus his oculis cernitur, ab ipsis quoque Manichaeis uero et bono deo tribuenda esse dicatur: summam esse dementiam id praedicare pertinere ad deum, quod per corpus intuemur, quod uero non solum animo. sed ipsa sublimitate animi, mente scilicet atque intellegentia caperemus, id est uitam, qualiscumque illa diceretur. tamen uitam eodem deo auctore priuandam et uiduandam putare. num enim quid sit uiuere quamque secretum ab omni corporis sensu quamque omnino incorporeum, si me ipsum inuocato deo interrogarem, respondere non possim? aut non illi quoque fateantur non solum uiuere illas, quas detestantur animas, sed etiam inmortaliter uiuere? quodque a Christo dictum est: dimitte mortuos sepelire mortuos suos, non de omnino non uiuentibus, sed de peccantibus dictum, quae inmortalis animae sola mors est scribente Paulo: mortua est uidua, quae in deliciis uiuit; simul enim et mortuam esse dixit et uiuere. quare non ego quanto decoloratius uiuat peccatrix anima, sed illud ipsum tantum, quod uiuit adtenderem. quod si percipere nisi intellegendo non possem, credo, ueniret in mentem tanto esse quamlibet animam luci, quam per hos sentimus oculos, praeferendam, quanto intellegentiam ipsis oculis praeferremus. Lucem autem illam illi quoque a patre Christi esse confirmant: egone tandem, quod ab eo esset quaecumque anima, dubitarem? ego uero non modo de anima, sed de quouis etiam corpore, quin ab ipso esset, nihil omnino ne tum quidem homo scilicet illius inperitiae atque illius aetatis ambigerem, si forma quid esset quidue formatum, quid species et quid indutum specie, deinde quid horum cui causa esset, pie cauteque cogitarem.
But if at that time my thought could not bear and sustain the question of life itself and of participation in life (which is certainly a great question, needing much calm discussion among the most learned), perhaps I could have made out what is most plainly evident to every person who considers it well without partisan zeal: that everything we are said to know and understand we hold as grasped either by the sense of the body or by the intelligence. The senses of the body, even in common speech, are counted as five: sight, hearing, smell, taste, and touch; and who, unless ungrateful and impious, would not grant me that intelligence far and deeply surpasses and excels all of them? Once this is settled and established, it follows that all things perceived bodily, by touch and sight or in any other way, are as much inferior to the things we attain by understanding as we see the senses themselves yield to the intelligence. Therefore, since all life, and for that reason every soul, can be perceived by no bodily sense but by the intellect alone, while this sun and moon and every light seen by these mortal eyes are said even by the Manichaeans themselves to be attributed to the true and good God, it is the height of madness to proclaim that what we behold through the body belongs to God, but to think that what we grasp not merely with the mind but with the very summit of the mind, that is, with the reason and intelligence, namely life, of whatever kind it is said to be, must be deprived and bereft of that same God as its author. For if I invoked God and questioned myself, could I not answer what it is to live, and how removed it is from every bodily sense, and how wholly incorporeal? Or would not they too admit that those souls they detest not only live but live immortally? And what Christ said, “Let the dead bury their dead,” was said not of those who do not live at all but of those who sin, which is the only death of the immortal soul, as Paul writes: “The widow who lives in pleasures is dead”; for he said at once that she is dead and that she lives. So I should have attended not to how much more discolored the life of a sinful soul is, but only to the fact that it lives. And if I could not perceive this except by understanding, it would, I believe, have come into my mind that any soul whatever is to be preferred to the light we perceive through these eyes as much as we prefer the intelligence to the eyes themselves. But they too affirm that that light is from the Father of Christ: should I, then, have doubted that any soul whatever was from him? Indeed, even then, a man, of course, of that inexperience and that age, I would not have hesitated at all, not only about the soul but about any body whatever, that it was from him, if I had thought devoutly and carefully what form is and what is formed, what beauty is and what is clothed with beauty, and then which of these is the cause of which.
Matt 8:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 9:60 (quotation, medium confidence) · 1 Tim 5:6 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Since life and soul are known by the intellect, which surpasses the bodily senses, souls must rank above the visible light that the Manichaeans ascribe to God, and so must also be from God.
- Matt 8:22 (Luke 9:60); 1 Tim 5:6. The distinction between species (“beauty”, “form”) and forma follows Augustine's usage; translated by sense.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Stray colon inside a phrase (digitization slip).): eodem deo: auctore → eodem deo auctore.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Duab. an. 2 (CSEL 25:52–53; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-duabus-animabus/1/#p-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 3
3CSEL 25:53–55
Sed de corpore interim taceo; de anima conqueror, de spontaneo et uiuido motu, de actu, de uita, de inmortalitate, denique conqueror, quod aliquam rem ista omnia sine dei bonitate habere posse miserrimus credidi, quod quanta essent, neglegenter adtendi: hoc mihi gemendum ac deflendum puto. uoluerem mecum haec, loquerer mecum, deferrem ad illos; quae uis esset intellegendi, quam nihil esset in homine. quod huic excellentiae possemus conferre, proponerem. ubi mihi hoc homines, si modo essent homines, concessissent, quaererem, utrum his oculis uidere id est intellegere; ubi negauissent, colligerem primo longe esse sensui oculorum istorum intellegentiam mentis anteponendam; deinde subiungerem, id quod re meliore perciperemus, necessario melius iudicandum. quis hoc non daret? ergo pergerem quaerere animam illam, quam malam dicerent, oculisne sentiretur istis. an mente intellegeretur. mente faterentur. quibus omnibus inter nos conuenientibus atque firmatis. quid conficeretur ostenderem, animam illam scilicet. quam execrarentur. luce ista, quam uenerarentur, esse meliorem, quandoquidem illa intellectu mentis. haec sensu corporis innotescit. hic uero haererent fortasse ducemque rationem sequi recusarent: tanta est uis ueternosarum opinionum et diu defensae atque creditae falsitatis. sed ego instarem magis haerentibus. non aspere. non pueriliter, non peruicaciter; repeterem quae concessa sunt, et quam essent concedenda, monstrarem. hortarer ut in commune consulerent; uiderent certe. quid nobis negandum esset: utrum intellectum istis carneis luminibus praeferendum, an excellentius esse, quod animi excellentia quam quod debili sensu corporis cognoscitur, falsum putarent; an illas animas, quas alienigenas crederent. tantum intellegendo. id est ipsa animi excellentia sciri posse nollent fateri: an solem ac lunam non nisi istis oculis notos fieri uellent abnuere. quod si nihil horum nisi absurdissime atque inpudentissime negari posse animum aduerterent, suaderem non eos oportere dubitare istam lucem, quam colendam praedicarent, esse anima illa uiliorem, quam fugiendam monerent.
But of the body I say nothing for the moment; of the soul I complain: of its spontaneous and living motion, of its activity, of its life, of its immortality. Finally, I complain that, most wretched as I was, I believed that anything could have all these things without the goodness of God, and that I paid careless attention to how great they are: this, I think, I must bewail and weep over. I should have turned these things over with myself, spoken with myself, and brought them before those men: I would have set forth what the power of understanding is, and how nothing in man can be compared with this excellence. When men had granted me this, if only they were men, I would have asked whether to see with these eyes is the same as to understand; when they had denied it, I would have concluded first that the understanding of the mind is to be placed far ahead of the sense of these eyes; then I would have added that what we perceive by the better faculty must necessarily be judged better. Who would not grant this? So I would have gone on to ask whether that soul which they call evil is perceived by these eyes or understood by the mind. They would admit, by the mind. When all these things had been agreed and established between us, I would have shown what follows: that that soul which they execrate is better than this light which they venerate, since the one is known by the understanding of the mind, the other by the sense of the body. Here, perhaps, they would have stuck and refused to follow reason as their guide, so great is the force of long-entrenched opinions and of a falsehood long defended and believed. But I would have pressed them the more as they stuck, not harshly, not childishly, not obstinately; I would have repeated what had been conceded, and shown how it had to be conceded. I would have urged them to take counsel in common, and to see clearly what we would have to deny: whether they thought it false that understanding is to be preferred to these fleshly lights, or that what is known by the excellence of the mind is more excellent than what is known by the weak sense of the body; or whether they would refuse to admit that those souls which they believed to be alien could be known only by understanding, that is, by the very excellence of the mind; or whether they would want to deny that the sun and moon become known only by these eyes. And if they noticed that none of these could be denied except most absurdly and shamelessly, I would have urged them that they ought not to doubt that this light, which they proclaimed should be worshiped, is lower than that soul which they warned should be shunned.
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Summary: Augustine sets out the argument he should have pressed on the Manichaeans: souls are known by the mind, the sun and moon by the eyes, so even the “evil” soul is better than the light they worship.
- The Manichaeans venerated the sun and moon as vessels of the divine light.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Duab. an. 3 (CSEL 25:53–55; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-duabus-animabus/1/#p-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 4
4CSEL 25:55
Atque hic si forte turbati a me quaererent, num etiam muscae animam huic luci praestare censerem, responderem: etiam. nec me terreret musca quod parua est, sed quod uiua firmaret. quaeritur enim, quid illa membra tam exigua uegetet, quid huc atque illuc pro naturali adpetitu tantillum corpusculum ducat, quid currentis pedes in numerum moueat, aut quid uolantis pennulas moderetur ac uibret. quod qualecumque est, bene considerantibus in tam paruo tam magnum eminet, ut cuiuis fulgori praestringenti oculos praeferatur. Certe quod nemo dubitat, quicquid id est, intellegibile est, quod omni sensibili et ob hoc huic etiam luci diuinis legibus antecellit. quid enim cogitatione percipimus, quaeso, si hoc non percipimus aliud esse mente intellegere, aliud sentire per corpus et prius illud ab hoc posteriore incomparabili sublimitate distare ideoque non posse intellegibilia sensibilibus non praeferri, cum ipse intellectus tantum sensibus praeferatur?
And here, if perhaps they were disturbed and asked me whether I thought that even the soul of a fly surpasses this light, I would have answered: yes, even that. Nor would the fly frighten me because it is small; rather, because it is alive, it would confirm my case. For one asks what gives life to those tiny members, what leads that tiny little body here and there according to its natural appetite, what moves the feet of the running fly in rhythm, or what governs and makes vibrate the little wings of the flying one. Whatever it is, to those who consider well it stands out so greatly in so small a thing that it is to be preferred to any brightness that dazzles the eyes. Certainly, as no one doubts, whatever it is, it is intelligible, and by divine laws it surpasses everything sensible, and therefore also this light. For what, I ask, do we grasp by thought, if we do not grasp that to understand with the mind is one thing and to perceive through the body another, and that the former is separated from the latter by an incomparable elevation, and therefore that intelligible things cannot fail to be preferred to sensible things, since understanding itself is so far preferred to the senses?
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Summary: Even a fly's soul surpasses the sun's light, because the life that moves it is intelligible, and intelligible things rank above all sensible ones.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Duab. an. 4 (CSEL 25:55; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-duabus-animabus/1/#p-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 5
5CSEL 25:55–56
Hinc illud etiam fortasse cognoscerem, quod consequens esse manifestum est, cum iniustitia et intemperantia ceteraque animi uitia non sentiantur, sed intellegantur: quomodo fiat, ut etiam ista, quae detestamur et damnanda censemus, tamen quoniam intellegibilia sunt, anteire hanc lucem queant, cum in suo genere ista laudanda sit. suggeritur enim animo bene se deo subicienti primo non omne, quod laudamus. omni. quod uituperamus. esse anteponendum. neque enim quia laudo purgatissimum plumbum. ob hoc illud uituperando auro pluris aestimo. in suo enim genere quidque considerandum est. inprobo iurisconsultum multas leges ignorantem, sed eum tamen probatissimo sutori sic praefero, ut ne comparandum quidem putem. at istum laudo, quod suae artis peritissimus sit; illum autem. quod suam professionem minus inpleat, iure reprehendo. ex quo reperire deberem lucem istam, quod in genere proprio perfecta esset. iure laudari; tamen quia sensibilium rerum numero includitur, quod genus intellegibilium generi cedat necesse est, infra iniustas et intemperantes animas, quoniam sunt intellegibiles, esse deputandam, quamuis istas non iniuria damnatione dignissimas iudicemus. quaerimus namque in his quod concilietur deo, non quod isti fulgori praeferatur. quapropter quisquis hoc lumen ex deo esse contenderet, non repugnarem, sed magis animas dicerem, uitiosas etiam, non in quantum uitiosae. sed in quantum animae sunt, deum sibi esse creatorem fateri oportere.
From this perhaps I might also have recognized what plainly follows: since injustice and intemperance and the other vices of the mind are not sensed but understood, how does it come about that even these, which we detest and judge worthy of condemnation, can nevertheless, because they are intelligible, rank above this light, although this light is praiseworthy in its own kind? For it is suggested to a mind that rightly submits itself to God, first, that not everything we praise is to be placed above everything we blame. For I do not, because I praise the purest lead, value it more than gold that I blame; each thing must be considered in its own kind. I disapprove of a lawyer who does not know many laws, and yet I so prefer him to a most approved shoemaker that I do not think him even comparable. Yet I praise the shoemaker because he is very skilled in his craft, and I rightly blame the lawyer because he fulfills his profession less well. From this I should have found that this light, because it is perfect in its own kind, is rightly praised; yet because it is included among sensible things, a kind that must yield to the kind of intelligible things, it is to be ranked below unjust and intemperate souls, since they are intelligible, although we judge them, not without reason, most worthy of condemnation. For in them we are looking for what may be reconciled to God, not what may be preferred to that brightness. Therefore, if anyone maintained that this light is from God, I would not oppose him; but I would say rather that souls, even vicious ones, not insofar as they are vicious but insofar as they are souls, must confess God as their creator.
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Summary: Things must be judged within their kinds: the sun's light is praiseworthy as sensible, yet even vicious souls, as intelligible, rank above it, and as souls they have God as creator.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Duab. an. 5 (CSEL 25:55–56; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-duabus-animabus/1/#p-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 6
6CSEL 25:56–59
Hoc loco si quisquam illorum cautus et uigilans iam etiam studiosior quam pertinacior me admoneret non de uitiosis animis. sed de ipsis uitiis esse quaerendum — quae quoniam sensu corporis non cognoscerentur. et tamen cognoscerentur, non nisi intellegibilia posse accipi; quae si sensibilibus omnibus antecellunt, cur lucem deo auctori esse tribuendam inter nos conueniret, uitiorum uero auctorem deum nemo nisi sacrilegus diceret — responderem homini, si aut statim et repente. ut bonis dei cultoribus solet. diuinitus infulsisset huius solutio quaestionis, aut fuisset antea praeparata: quorum si neutrum meruissem atque potuissem, coepta differrem; quodque esset propositum, difficile esse ad dinoscendum atque arduum confiterer. recurrerem in me, prosternerer deo, alte ingemerem quaerens, ne me in medio spatio, quo certis rationibus promouissem, haerere pateretur; ne ancipiti quaestione cogerer aut intellegibilia sensibilibus submittere ac subdere. aut ipsum uitiorum dicere auctorem: cum esset utrumuis horum falsitatis inpietatisque plenissimum. nullo modo possem existimare. quod me sic adfectum ille desereret. admoneret ergo suis illis ineffabilibus modis, ut considerarem etiam atque etiam. utrum animi uitia. de quibus aestuarem, inter intellegibilia numeranda essent. quod ut reperirem propter inbecillitatem interioris oculi mei, quae mihi peccatis meis iure accidisset, aliquem mihi ad inuisibilia contuenda in ipsis uisibilibus machinarer gradum: quorum esset nobis nullo modo certior cognitio, sed consuetudo fidentior. itaque statim quaererem, quid ad sensum proprie pertineret oculorum. inuenirem colores, quorum principatum lux ista obtineret. haec enim sunt. quae nullus alius sensus adtingit: nam motus corporum et magnitudines et interualla et figuras. quamuis et oculis. non tamen proprie. sed tactu etiam posse sentiri. unde colligerem tanto ceteris corporeis et sensibilibus praestare lucem, quanto aliis sensibus aspectus esset inlustrior. eiecta igitur ex omnibus, quae corpore sentiuntur, ista luce. qua niterer et in qua gradum illum inquisitionis meae necessario conlocarem, pergerem adtendere, quid ageretur hoc modo. mecumque ista sermocinarer: si sol iste tanta claritate conspicuus et diei luce sufficiens usque ad lunae similitudinem in conspectu nostro paulatim deficeret, num aliud quicquam oculis sentiremus quam lucem utcumque fulgentem, lucem tamen quaerentes. quod fuerat, non uidendo et haurientes uidendo quod aderat? non ergo illum defectum uideremus, sed lucem. quae defectui remaneret. cum autem non uideremus, non sentiremus: quicquid enim sentimus aspectu. non potest non uideri. quare si defectus ille neque uisu neque alio sensu sentiretur, non posset inter sensibilia numerari. nihil enim sensibile est. quod sentiri non potest. referamus nunc considerationem ad uirtutem, cuius intellegibili luce splendere animum conuenientissime dicimus. porro ab hac luce uirtutis defectus quidam non perimens animam. sed obscurans uitium uocatur. potest igitur recte uitium quoque animi nequaquam inter intellegibilia numerari. ut lucis ille defectus recte de sensibilium numero eximitur: illud tamen quod remanet animae, id est hoc ipsum. quod uiuit atque anima est, tam est intellegibile quam sensibile illud, quod in hoc uisibili lumine post defectum quantumcumque fulgeret: et ideo animam in quantum anima esset et uitae participaret, sine qua nullo pacto esse anima potest. rectissime omnibus sensibilibus anteferri. quamobrem maximi erroris esse ullam animam dicere non esse ex deo. ex quo esse solem lunamque glorieris.
At this point, if one of them, cautious and watchful and by now more eager for truth than for stubbornness, warned me that the question was not about vicious souls but about the vices themselves (which, since they are not known by bodily sense and yet are known, can only be taken as intelligible; and if they surpass all sensible things, why should we agree that light is to be attributed to God as its author, when no one but a sacrilegious person would call God the author of vices?), I would have answered the man if the solution of this question had either shone on me at once and suddenly from God, as usually happens to good worshipers of God, or had been prepared beforehand. If I had deserved and achieved neither, I would have postponed what I had begun and confessed that what was proposed was difficult and hard to discern. I would have run back into myself, prostrated myself before God, groaned deeply, asking that he not let me stick halfway along the course by which I had advanced by sure reasons, lest I be forced by a double-edged question either to subordinate and subject intelligible things to sensible ones or to call him the author of vices, since either of these is full of falsehood and impiety. In no way could I have thought that he would desert me in such a state. He would therefore have warned me, in those ineffable ways of his, to consider again and again whether the vices of the mind, about which I was troubled, were to be counted among intelligible things. And to find this out, because of the weakness of my inner eye, which had rightly befallen me through my sins, I would have contrived for myself some step, in the visible things themselves, toward beholding invisible things, visible things of which we have by no means a more certain knowledge, but a more confident familiarity. So I would at once have asked what properly belongs to the sense of the eyes. I would have found colors, among which this light holds first place. For these are what no other sense reaches; for the motions of bodies, their sizes, distances, and shapes, though they can be sensed by the eyes, are not properly theirs, but can also be sensed by touch. Hence I would have concluded that light surpasses other bodily and sensible things as much as sight is more illustrious than the other senses. So, having picked out from all things that are sensed by the body this light, on which I would rely and on which I would necessarily place that step of my inquiry, I would have gone on to observe what happens in this way, and would have talked it over with myself thus: If this sun, conspicuous with such brightness and sufficient for the light of day, gradually failed in our sight until it resembled the moon, would we perceive with our eyes anything other than light shining in some measure, looking for the light that had been by not seeing it, and taking in by seeing the light that was present? So we would not see that failing, but the light that remained to the failing. But what we did not see we would not sense; for whatever we sense by sight cannot fail to be seen. Therefore, if that failing were sensed neither by sight nor by any other sense, it could not be counted among sensible things; for nothing is sensible that cannot be sensed. Let us now turn our consideration to virtue, by whose intelligible light we most fittingly say the mind shines. Further, a certain failing from this light of virtue, which does not destroy the soul but darkens it, is called vice. So the vice of the mind too can rightly be counted in no way among intelligible things, just as that failing of light is rightly excluded from the number of sensible things. But what remains to the soul, that is, the very fact that it lives and is a soul, is as intelligible as that which, in this visible light, would be sensible, however much it still shone after the failing. And therefore the soul, insofar as it is a soul and participates in life, without which it can in no way be a soul, is most rightly placed ahead of all sensible things. Therefore it is a very great error to say that any soul is not from God, when you boast that the sun and moon are from him.
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Summary: Vices are not intelligible things but failings, as a waning of light is not itself seen; what remains in a vicious soul, its life, is intelligible and ranks above all sensible things.
- The last sentence shifts to the second person (glorieris), addressing a Manichaean directly.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Duab. an. 6 (CSEL 25:56–59; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-duabus-animabus/1/#p-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 7
7CSEL 25:59–60
Quod si iam placeret omnia sensibilia nominare, non modo ea, quae sentiremus, sed etiam ea, quae non sentiendo, tamen per corpus iudicaremus, sicut per oculos tenebras et per aures silentium — et illas enim non uidendo et hoc non audiendo cognoscimus — rursusque intellegibilia, non ea tantum, quae inlustrata mente conspicimus, sicuti est ipsa sapientia, sed etiam illa, quae ipsius inlustrationis priuatione auersamur, ut est insipientia, quam tenebras animi congrue dixerimus: nullam de uerbo facerem controuersiam, sed totam quaestionem facili diuisione dissoluerem statimque adprobarem bene adtendentibus substantias intellegibiles sensibilibus substantiis diuina et incorrupta ueritatis lege praeponi, non earum substantiarum defectus, quamuis hos intellegibiles, illes sensibiles appellare uellemus. quapropter qui et haec lumina uisibilia et illas intellegibiles animas substantias esse faterentur, omni modo eos cogi sublimiores partes animis tribuere atque concedere, defectus uero utriusque generis non posse alteros alteris anteponi; priuant enim tantum et non esse indicant, quod usquequaque eandem uim habent, sicut ipsae negationes. nam cum dicimus: non est aurum, et: non est uirtus, quamuis inter aurum et uirtutes plurimum, nihil tamen inter negationes, quas eis adiunximus, distat. uerum enimuero peius est non esse uirtutem quam non esse aurum, nemo sanus hinc ambigit, quod non propter ipsas negationes, sed propter res, quibus adiunguntur, accidere quis non intellegat? auro enim uirtus quanto praestat, tanto est uirtute quam auro carere miserius. quamobrem cum res intellegibiles sensibilibus rebus antecellunt, defectum in intellegibilibus quam in sensibilibus merito aegrius toleramus, non eos defectus, sed ea, quae deficiunt, carius uel uilius aestimantes. ex quo iam illud adparet defectum uitae, quae intellegibilis est, multo miserabiliorem esse quam huius sensibilis lucis, quod scilicet multo est carior intellecta uita quam lux ista conspecta.
But if one now chose to call sensible not only the things we sense but also those which, by not sensing them, we nevertheless judge through the body, as darkness through the eyes and silence through the ears (for we know the one by not seeing and the other by not hearing), and again to call intelligible not only the things we behold with an enlightened mind, such as wisdom itself, but also those which we turn away from through the privation of that enlightenment, such as folly, which we may fittingly call the darkness of the mind: I would make no dispute about the word, but would resolve the whole question by an easy division, and would at once prove to those who pay attention that, by the divine and incorrupt law of truth, intelligible substances are placed above sensible substances, not the failings of those substances, even if we chose to call the one intelligible and the other sensible. Therefore those who admitted that both these visible lights and those intelligible souls are substances would be compelled in every way to grant and concede the higher place to souls; but the failings of the two kinds cannot be placed one above the other, for they only deprive and indicate not-being, and so everywhere have the same force, just as negations themselves do. For when we say “it is not gold” and “it is not virtue,” although there is a very great difference between gold and the virtues, there is no difference between the negations we have attached to them. But that it is worse for virtue not to be than for gold not to be, no one of sound mind doubts; and who does not understand that this comes about not because of the negations themselves but because of the things to which they are attached? For the more virtue surpasses gold, the more wretched it is to lack virtue than to lack gold. Therefore, since intelligible things surpass sensible things, we rightly bear a failing in intelligible things with more distress than in sensible things, valuing not those failings, but the things that fail, as more precious or more worthless. From this it is already clear that the failing of life, which is intelligible, is much more lamentable than that of this sensible light, because understood life is much more precious than this seen light.
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Summary: Whatever words are used, intelligible substances rank above sensible ones, while failings as mere negations are equal in themselves; losing an intelligible good is worse because the good is greater.
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- Digital text corrected (Stray dash inside a phrase (digitization slip).): non earum - substantiarum → non earum substantiarum.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Duab. an. 7 (CSEL 25:59–60; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-duabus-animabus/1/#p-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 8
8CSEL 25:60–61
Quae cum ita sint, audebitne quisquam, cum solem ac lunam et quicquid in sideribus, quicquid denique in hoc igni nostro atque terreno luce uisibili effulget, deo tribuat, animas quaslibet, quae profecto nisi uiuendo animae non sunt, cum tanto hoc lumen uita praecedat. ex deo esse nolle concedere? et cum ille uerum dicat. qui dicit: in quantum nitet. ex deo est, egone tandem. deus magne. mentiar, si dicam: in quantum uiuit. ex deo est? non usque adeo. quaeso, caecitas mentis subpliciaque augeantur animorum. ut haec homines non intellegant. sed quoquo modo illorum error aut pertinacia sese haberet, his ego fretus armatusque rationibus credo, cum ad eos rem ita consideratam perspectamque detulissem et cum his placide contulissem. uererer. ne mihi quisquam eorum alicuius momenti esse uideretur, si aut intellectum aut ea, quae intellectu, non per defectum perciperentur, sensui conaretur praeferre aut saltem conparare corporeo uel his rebus, quae ad eundem sensum cognoscendum similiter pertinerent. quo constituto quando ille mihi uel quisquam negare auderet animas, quantum uellet malas, tamen, quoniam animae essent, intellegibilium rerum numero contineri neque illas per defectum intellegi? siquidem animae non alio essent, nisi quo uiuerent licet enim per defectum intellegerentur uitiosae, quia uirtutis egestate uitiosae, non tamen per defectum animae, quia ui. uendo animae. nec fieri potest, ut uitae praesentia sit causa deficiendi, cum tanto quidque deficiat, quanto deseritur uita.
Since this is so, will anyone dare, while attributing to God the sun and moon and whatever shines with visible light in the stars, and finally in this fire of ours on earth, to refuse to grant that any souls whatever are from God, souls which are certainly not souls except by living, since life so far surpasses this light? And when he speaks the truth who says, “Insofar as it shines, it is from God,” shall I, great God, be lying if I say, “Insofar as it lives, it is from God”? Let not, I beg, the blindness of the mind and the punishments of souls be increased so far that men do not understand these things. But however their error or stubbornness might stand, I believe that, relying on and armed with these reasons, when I had brought the matter so considered and examined before them and had calmly discussed it with them, I would have been afraid that any of them might seem to me of any weight if he tried to rank either the understanding or the things perceived by understanding (not through failing) below bodily sense, or even to compare them with it or with the things that likewise belong to that sense to be known. And when this was established, when would he or anyone dare to deny to me that souls, however evil he wished them to be, are nevertheless, because they are souls, contained among intelligible things, and are not understood through failing? For souls are souls by nothing other than that by which they live. For although they might be understood as vicious through failing, since they are vicious by lack of virtue, yet they are not souls through failing, since they are souls by living. Nor can it be that the presence of life is a cause of failing, since each thing fails as much as life deserts it.
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Summary: If the Manichaeans grant that whatever shines is from God, they must grant that whatever lives is from God, for souls are souls by living, and life is never a cause of failing.
- The printed text has praeferre (“to prefer”), which the argument seems to require in the opposite sense (to rank below); translated by sense, and uncertain. “I would have been afraid that any of them might seem to me of any weight” means that none of them could then have seemed a serious opponent.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Duab. an. 8 (CSEL 25:60–61; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-duabus-animabus/1/#p-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 9
9CSEL 25:61–63
Omni modo igitur cum pateret non posse ullas animas ab eo auctore separari, a quo lux ista non separaretur, iam quicquid adferrent, non acciperem admoneremque potius, ut eos mecum sequi mallent, qui omne, quicquid esset, quoniam esset, in quantumcumque esset, ex uno deo esse praedicarent. Recitarent aduersum me uoces illas euangelicas: uos propterea non auditis, quia non estis ex deo; uos ex patre diabolo estis. ego quoque contra recitarem: omnia per ipsum facta sunt et sine ipso factum est nihil, et illud apostoli: unus deus, ex quo omnia, et unus dominus Iesus Christus, per quem omnia, et iterum eiusdem apostoli: ex quo omnia, per quem omnia, in quo omnia, ipsi gloria, hortarerque homines — si tamen homines inuenirem —, nihil nos iam quasi conperisse praesumeremus, sed quaereremus potius magistros, qui sententiarum istarum, quae nobis inter se pugnare uiderentur, pacem concordiamque monstrarent. non in una atque eadem auctoritate scripturarum cum alibi sonaret: omnia ex deo, et alibi: uos non estis ex deo, quoniam libros temere condemnare nefas esset, quis non uideret peritum doctorem, cui quaestionis huius solutio nota esset, inueniendum fuisse? qui profecto si esset bonus intellector et. ut diuinitus dicitur, homo spiritalis. quoniam necessario faueret ueris rationibus, quas de intellegibili sensibilique natura, quantum potui, tractaui atque disserui. immo eas ipse multo melius et ad docendum aptius aperiret. nihil ab eo aliud de hac quaestione audiremus, nisi quemadmodum fieri posset, ut et nullum animarum genus non esset ex deo, et recte tamen peccatoribus et infidelibus diceretur: non estis ex deo. nam et nos fortasse inplorato in auxilium deo facile uidere possemus aliud esse uiuere, aliud peccare. et quamquam uita in peccatis in conparatione iustae uitae mors appellata sit. utrumque tamen in homine uno posse inueniri, ut simul sit uiuus atque peccator. sed quod uiuus, ex deo, quod peccator. non ex deo. in qua diuisione utimur ea parte de duabus, quae nostrae sententiae conpetit, ut, cum dei conditoris omnipotentiam insinuare uolumus, etiam peccatoribus dicamus. quod ex deo sint — dicimus enim his, qui aliqua specie continentur, dicimus animantibus, dicimus rationalibus, dicimus postremo, quod ad rem maxime adtingit, uiuentibus, quae omnia per se ipsa diuina sunt munera-, cum autem malos arguere propositum est. recte dicimus: non estis ex deo. dicimus enim se a ueritate auertentibus, infidelibus, facinorosis. flagitiosis, et quod nomine uno totum continet, peccatoribus: quae rursus omnia ex deo non esse quis dubitet? itaque Christus peccatoribus id ipsum, quod peccatores erant et sibi non credebant, coarguens, quid mirum si ait: non estis ex deo. ex alia parte illa salua manente sententia quod omnia per ipsum facta sunt, et: omnia ex deo. nam si Christo non credere, Christi aduentum repudiare. Christum non recipere certum indicium esset animarum, quae non sunt dei. et ideo dictum esset: uos propterea non auditis. quia non estis ex deo, quomodo uera esset uox illa apostoli in ipso euangelii memorabili principio, qua dictum est: in sua propria uenit et sui eum non receperunt? unde sui. si non receperunt? aut unde ideo non sui. quia non receperunt? nisi quia homines peccatores, eo quod sunt homines. ad deum. eo uero, quod peccatores, ad diabolum pertinent. hic ergo partem naturae tenuit qui ait: sui eum non receperunt. ille uoluntatis qui ait: non estis ex deo. euangelista enim dei opera commendabat. Christus hominum peccata cohercebat.
In every way, then, since it was clear that no souls can be separated from that author from whom this light is not separated, I would no longer accept whatever they brought forward, but would rather urge them to choose to follow with me those who proclaim that everything that is, because it is, to whatever degree it is, is from the one God. They might recite against me those words of the Gospel: “You do not hear for this reason, because you are not from God; you are from your father the devil.” I in turn would recite: “All things were made through him, and without him nothing was made,” and the apostle's words: “One God, from whom are all things, and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things,” and again the same apostle's: “From whom are all things, through whom are all things, in whom are all things; to him be glory.” And I would urge the men, if only I found men, that we should no longer presume that we had found anything out, but should rather seek teachers who could show us the peace and harmony of these statements, which seemed to us to conflict with one another. Since, within one and the same authority of the Scriptures, it sounded in one place, “All things are from God,” and in another, “You are not from God,” and since it would be impious to condemn the books rashly, who would not see that a skilled teacher, to whom the solution of this question was known, had to be found? And if he were a good interpreter and, as Scripture says, a spiritual man, then, since he would necessarily favor the true reasons which I have treated and discussed, as far as I could, concerning intelligible and sensible nature, or rather would himself lay them open much better and more fitly for teaching, we would hear nothing else from him on this question than how it could be that no kind of souls is not from God, and yet it is rightly said to sinners and unbelievers, “You are not from God.” For we too, perhaps, having implored God's help, could easily see that to live is one thing and to sin another; and that although life in sins has been called death in comparison with a righteous life, yet both can be found in one man, so that he is at once alive and a sinner; but insofar as he is alive, he is from God; insofar as he is a sinner, he is not from God. In this division we use whichever of the two parts suits our purpose: when we want to make known the omnipotence of God the creator, we say even to sinners that they are from God; for we say it to those who are held together by some form, to animate beings, to rational beings, and finally, what touches the matter most, to living beings, all of which in themselves are divine gifts. But when our purpose is to rebuke the wicked, we rightly say, “You are not from God.” For we say it to those who turn away from the truth, to unbelievers, to criminals, to the shameful, and, in one word that contains the whole, to sinners; and who doubts that all these, again, are not from God? So when Christ rebuked sinners for the very fact that they were sinners and did not believe in him, what wonder if he said, “You are not from God,” while on the other side that statement remains intact, that “all things were made through him,” and “all things are from God”? For if not believing Christ, rejecting Christ's coming, not receiving Christ were a sure sign of souls that are not God's, and for that reason it had been said, “You do not hear for this reason, because you are not from God,” how would that saying of the apostle be true, at the memorable beginning of the Gospel itself, where it is said: “He came to his own, and his own did not receive him”? How were they his own, if they did not receive him? Or how were they for that reason not his own, because they did not receive him? Only because sinful men, insofar as they are men, belong to God, but insofar as they are sinners, to the devil. So he who said, “His own did not receive him,” kept to the part of nature; he who said, “You are not from God,” kept to the part of the will. For the evangelist was commending the works of God; Christ was restraining the sins of men.
John 8:47 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:44 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 8:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 11:36 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:15 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 1:11 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Scripture's “all things are from God” and “you are not from God” agree once one sees that a sinner is from God insofar as he lives and not from God insofar as he sins.
- John 8:47, 44; John 1:3; 1 Cor 8:6; Rom 11:36; 1 Cor 2:15 (“spiritual man”); John 1:11. Augustine calls John the Evangelist “the apostle”.
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- Digital text corrected (OCR slip: “ipsi” read as “insi”.): in quo omnia, insi gloria → in quo omnia, ipsi gloria.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Duab. an. 9 (CSEL 25:61–63; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-duabus-animabus/1/#p-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 10
10CSEL 25:63–65
Hic fortasse quis dicat: unde ipsa peccata et omnino unde malum? si ab homine, unde homo? si ab angelo. unde angelus? quos ex deo esse cum dicitur. quamuis recte uereque dicantur, uidentur tamen inperitis et minus ualentibus acriter res abditas intueri quasi per quandam catenam ad deum mala et peccata conecti. hac in quaestione illi regnare se putant, quasi uero interrogare sit scire. utinam id esset: nemo me scientior reperiretur. sed nescio quomodo saepe in altercando magnae quaestionis propositor personam magni doctoris ostentat plerumque ipse ipso. quem tenet, in eo, de quo terret, indoctior. itaque isti multitudini se praeferendos arbitrantur, quia priores interrogant. quod cum multitudine ignorant. sed si eo tempore, quo cum eis me, non sicut iam diu ago, egisse nunc paenitet, mihi has rationes depromenti hoc obiecissent, dicerem: quaeso. interim mecum cognoscite, quod facillimum est, si nihil potest fulgere sine deo, multo minus posse aliquid uiuere sine deo, ne in tantis monstris opinionum remaneamus, ut nescio quas animas uitam non ex deo habere praedicemus. sic enim fortasse continget, ut id quod mecum ignoratis, id est unde sit malum, uel simul uel quolibet ordine aliquando discamus. quid? si enim cognitio summi mali sine summi boni cognitione contingere homini non potest? non enim nossemus tenebras, si in tenebris semper essemus; sed lucis notitia contrarium suum non siuit incognitum. summum autem bonum id est, quo superius esse nihil potest; deus autem bonum et deo superius nihil est: deus igitur summum bonum. cognoscamus ergo deum atque ita nos illud, quod praepropere quaerimus, non latebit. mediocrisne tandem negotii uel meriti cognitionem dei esse arbitramini? quod enim nobis aliud praemium quam uita aeterna promittitur, quae dei cognitio est? ait enim magister deus: haec est autem uita aeterna, ut cognoscant te solum et uerum deum et quem misisti Iesum Christum. etenim anima quamuis sit inmortalis, tamen quia mors eius rite dicitur a dei cognitione auersio, cum se conuertit ad deum. meritum est aeternae uitae consequendae, ut sit aeterna uita, sicut dictum est, ipsa cognitio. conuerti autem ad deum nemo, nisi ab hoc mundo se auerterit, potest. hoc ego mihi arduum et difficillimum sentio; uobis si facile est, ille ipse deus uiderit. ego uellem credere, nisi me moueret, quod cum iste mundus, a quo nos auertere iubemur, uisibilis sit dixeritque apostolus: ea quae uidentur, temporalia sunt; quae autem non uidentur, aeterna sunt, uos plus istorum oculorum quam mentis iudicio tribuitis, apud quos nullam esse fulgentem pennam, quae non ex deo fulgeat, et esse uiuentem animam, quae non ex deo uiuat, praedicatur et creditur. haec et similia uel illis etiam dicerem uel mecum ipse reputarem. possem namque deum omnibus, ut dicitur, uisceribus deprecans et scripturis, quantum licebat, intentus etiam tunc fortasse talia uel dicere uel, quod saluti sat erat, cogitare.
Here perhaps someone may say: “Where do sins themselves come from, and where does evil come from at all? If from man, where does man come from? If from an angel, where does the angel come from?” When these are said to be from God, although this is said rightly and truly, it still seems to the unskilled and to those less able to look keenly into hidden things that evils and sins are linked to God as though by a kind of chain. In this question these people think they reign, as though to ask were to know. Would that it were! No one would be found more knowing than I. But somehow, in disputing, the one who puts a great question often displays the role of a great teacher, while he himself is usually more ignorant than the one he has cornered, on the very matter with which he intimidates him. So these people think they should be preferred to the multitude because they ask first what they, with the multitude, do not know. But if, at the time when I dealt with them (as I now regret having done, not as I have long been doing), they had put this objection to me when I brought out these reasons, I would have said: “Please, meanwhile, recognize with me what is very easy: if nothing can shine without God, much less can anything live without God; so that we may not remain in such monstrous opinions as to proclaim that certain souls have life not from God. For so perhaps it will come about that what you do not know along with me, that is, where evil comes from, we may learn some day, either together or in whatever order. For what if the knowledge of the highest evil cannot come to a man without knowledge of the highest good? For we would not know darkness if we were always in darkness; but the knowledge of light did not leave its contrary unknown. Now the highest good is that than which nothing can be higher; but God is good, and nothing is higher than God: God, therefore, is the highest good. Let us know God, then, and so what we are seeking too hastily will not be hidden from us. Or do you think the knowledge of God is a matter of little importance or merit? For what other reward is promised us than eternal life, which is the knowledge of God? For God our teacher says: ‘And this is eternal life, that they may know you, the only and true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.’ For although the soul is immortal, yet because its death is rightly called turning away from the knowledge of God, when it turns to God, that is the merit of attaining eternal life, so that eternal life is, as has been said, knowledge itself. But no one can turn to God unless he turns away from this world. This I feel to be hard and very difficult for me; if it is easy for you, God himself will see. I would like to believe it, if I were not troubled by this: that, although this world, from which we are commanded to turn away, is visible, and the apostle has said, ‘The things that are seen are temporal, but the things that are not seen are eternal,’ you give more weight to the judgment of these eyes than to that of the mind, you among whom it is proclaimed and believed that no feather shines that does not shine from God, and yet that there is a living soul that does not live from God.” These and similar things I would either have said to them as well or thought over with myself. For I could, praying to God with all my heart, as they say, and intent on the Scriptures as far as was permitted, perhaps even then have said such things, or, what was enough for salvation, have thought them.
John 17:3 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 4:18 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: To the question “where does evil come from?” Augustine would have answered that one must first know God, the highest good, and that the Manichaeans wrongly trust the eyes over the mind.
- John 17:3; 2 Cor 4:18. “No feather shines that does not shine from God”: the Manichaeans held that the light in bright things is a portion of the divine substance.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Duab. an. 10 (CSEL 25:63–65; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-duabus-animabus/1/#p-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 11
11CSEL 25:65–66
Sed me duo quaedam maxime, quae incautam illam aetatem facile capiunt, per admirabiles adtriuere circuitus: quorum est unum familiaritas nescio quomodo repens quadam imagine bonitatis tamquam sinuosum aliquod uinculum multipliciter collo inuolutum, alterum, quod quaedam noxia uictoria paene mihi semper in disputationibus proueniebat disserenti cum inperitis, sed tamen fidem suam certatim, ut quisque posset, defendere molientibus christianis. quo successu creberrimo gliscebat adulescentis animositas et inpetus suos in peruicaciae magnum malum inprudenter urgebat. quod altercandi genus quia post eorum auditionem adgressus eram, quicquid in eo uel qualicumque ingenio uel aliis lectionibus poteram, solis illis libentissime tribuebam. ita ex illorum sermonibus ardor in certamina, ex certaminum prouentu amor in illos cotidie nouabatur. ex quo accidebat, ut quicquid dicerent, miris quibusdam modis, non quia sciebam, sed quia optabam uerum esse, pro uero adprobarem. ita factum est, ut quamuis pedetemtim atque caute, tamen diu sequerer homines nitidam stipulam uiuenti animae praeferentes.
But two things above all, which easily capture that incautious age, wore me down by wonderful roundabout ways. One of them was a familiarity, somehow creeping on with a certain image of goodness, like a winding cord wrapped many times around the neck; the other, that a kind of harmful victory almost always came to me in disputes, when I argued with unskilled Christians who nevertheless strove eagerly, each as best he could, to defend their faith. By this very frequent success the young man's hot temper grew, and imprudently drove its impulses toward the great evil of obstinacy. And because I had taken up this kind of disputing after I began to hear them, whatever I could do in it, either by whatever ability I had or from other reading, I most gladly credited to them alone. So from their talks came ardor for contests, and from the success of the contests love for them was renewed daily. Hence it happened that whatever they said I approved as true, in some strange ways, not because I knew it but because I wished it to be true. So it came about that, although step by step and cautiously, I followed for a long time men who preferred a shining straw to a living soul.
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Summary: Augustine explains that friendship with the Manichaeans and easy victories in debates with untrained Christians kept him long among men who preferred a shining straw to a living soul.
- “A shining straw”: the Manichaeans held that the light in bright physical things was part of the divine substance. “Hear them” (eorum auditionem) may also allude to Augustine’s rank among the Manichaeans as a “hearer” (auditor), below the elect.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Duab. an. 11 (CSEL 25:65–66; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-duabus-animabus/1/#p-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 12
12CSEL 25:66–68
Uerum esto: non poteram illo tempore sensibilia haec ab intellegibilibus, carnalia scilicet ab spiritalibus diiudicare atque discernere. non erat aetatis. non disciplinae, non cuiusdam etiam consuetudinis. non ullorum denique meritorum non enim parui gaudii felicitatisque res est —: itane tandem ne illud quidem arripere poteram, quod in omnium hominum iudicio summi dei legibus natura ipsa constituit? Quiuis enim homines, quos modo a communi sensu generis humani nulla disrupisset amentia, quae uellent ad iudicandum studia detulissent, quamlibet inperitiam, quantamcumque etiam tarditatem, uelim experiri, quid mihi responderent roganti, utrum eis peccasse uideretur, de cuius dormientis manu scripsisset alius aliquid flagitiosum. omnes quis dubitet ita fuisse negaturos illud esse peccatum, ita reclamaturos, ut etiam succenserent fortasse, quod tali eos rogatione dignos putarim? a quibus ego, quoque modo poteram. reconciliatis et in consilium restitutis peterem, ut me aliud tam manifestum, tam in omnium cognitione positum interrogantem non moleste ferrent. tunc quaererem: si non dormientis, sed scientis manu, qui membris tamen ceteris uinctus atque constrictus esset, quisquam ualentior aliquid similiter fecisset mali, utrum quia id nosset. quamuis omnino noluisset, ullo peccati nomine teneretur. et hic mihi omnes mirantes, quod talia sciscitarer, sine cunctatione responderent nihil etiam istum omnino peccasse. quid ita? quia de quo nesciente uel resistere non ualente quisquam quippiam mali fecerit, iuste damnari nullo modo potest. atque id ipsum cur ita esset, si in illis hominibus naturam ipsam percontarer humanam, facile peruenirem ad id, quod cuperem, isto modo quaerens: quid? si dormiens ille iam sciret, quid alius de manu eius facturus esset, et de industria se plus potus etiam, ne expergisceretur, somno dederet, ut aliquem iurando falleret, num ei quicquam somnus ad innocentiam suffragaretur? quid aliud illi quam nocentem hominem pronuntiarent? quid? si et ille uolens uinctus est, ut aliquem similiter praetenta defensione deciperet, quid ei tandem, ut peccato careat. illa uincula profuerunt? quamquam his obstrictus reuera resistere non ualeret, sicut ille dormiens, quid tunc fieret. omnino nesciret. numquidnam igitur dubitandum est, quin peccasse ambo iudicarentur? quibus concessis colligerem nusquam scilicet nisi in uoluntate esse peccatum, cum mihi auxiliaretur etiam illud, quod iustitia peccantes tenet sola mala uoluntate. quamuis quod uoluerint inplere nequiuerint.
But suppose it so: at that time I could not judge between and distinguish these sensible things from intelligible ones, that is, carnal from spiritual. It was not a matter of my age, nor of my training, nor even of a certain habit, nor finally of any merits (for it is a thing of no small joy and happiness). But could I not at least lay hold of what nature itself has established in the judgment of all men by the laws of the highest God? For I would like to test what any men would answer me, provided no madness had cut them off from the common sense of the human race, whatever pursuits they brought to judging, whatever inexperience, however great their slowness, if I asked them whether a man seemed to them to have sinned from whose hand, while he slept, someone else had written something shameful. Who would doubt that all would deny that this was a sin, and protest so loudly that they might even be angry that I thought them deserving of such a question? Having reconciled them as best I could and brought them back to the discussion, I would ask them not to take it ill if I asked them something else as plain and as clear to everyone's knowledge. Then I would ask: if someone stronger had done some similar evil not with the hand of a sleeping man but with that of a man who knew it, but who was bound and tied in his other limbs, would he, because he knew of it, although he was wholly unwilling, be held guilty under any name of sin? And here all, wondering that I asked such things, would answer without hesitation that he too had not sinned at all. Why so? Because a man through whom, when he is unaware or unable to resist, someone else has done some evil, can in no way be justly condemned. And if I inquired of human nature itself in those men why this is so, I would easily reach what I wanted, asking in this way: What if that sleeper already knew what the other would do with his hand, and on purpose, having even drunk more so as not to wake, gave himself to sleep, in order to deceive someone by an oath: would sleep contribute anything to his innocence? What would they declare him but a guilty man? What if the other too was bound willingly, so as likewise to deceive someone by the pretext of that defense: of what use, then, were those bonds to him in keeping him free of sin? Although, tied by them, he really could not resist, just as that sleeper could not at all know what was being done then. Is there any doubt, then, that both would be judged to have sinned? When these points were conceded, I would conclude that sin is nowhere but in the will, since I would also be helped by the fact that justice holds sinners guilty by the evil will alone, even if they could not carry out what they willed.
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Summary: By common human judgment no one sins through an act done without knowledge or power to resist, unless he willed it beforehand; so sin lies nowhere but in the will.
- The parenthesis “for it is a thing of no small joy and happiness” refers to the ability to distinguish intelligible from sensible things.
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Duab. an. 12 (CSEL 25:66–68; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-duabus-animabus/1/#p-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 13
13CSEL 25:68
Quisquamne me ista tractantem possit dicere in rebus obscuris abditisque uersari. ubi propter intellegentium paucitatem uel fraudis uel ostentationis suspicio nasci solet? secedat paulisper illa intellegibilium sensibiliumque distinctio, nulla mihi fiat inuidia, quod tardas animas subtilium disputationum stimulis persequor. liceat mihi me scire uiuere, liceat mihi scire me uelle uiuere: in quae si consentit genus humanum, tam nobis cognita est uoluntas nostra quam uita. neque cum istam scientiam profitemur, metuendum est, ne nos quisquam falli posse conuincat: hoc ipsum enim falli nemo potest, si aut non uiuat aut nihil uelit. non me arbitror quicquam obscurum adtulisse et uereor, ne cuiquam magis, quod haec nimium manifesta sint, uidear esse culpandus; sed quorsum tendant, consideremus.
Could anyone say that in treating these things I am dealing with obscure and hidden matters, where, because few understand, suspicion of fraud or of display usually arises? Let that distinction of intelligible and sensible things step aside for a little; let no one resent me for pursuing slow souls with the goads of subtle arguments. Let me be allowed to know that I live; let me be allowed to know that I will to live. If the human race agrees on these things, our will is as known to us as our life. Nor, when we profess this knowledge, need we fear that anyone may convict us of being able to be deceived; for no one can be deceived in this very matter unless he either does not live or wills nothing. I do not think I have brought forward anything obscure, and I fear rather that I may seem blameworthy to someone because these things are too obvious; but let us consider where they lead.
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Summary: Augustine turns to what everyone knows without subtle argument: that he lives and that he wills, knowledge in which no one can be deceived.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Duab. an. 13 (CSEL 25:68; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-duabus-animabus/1/#p-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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