Tractates on the Gospel of John 108.1–109.5

Latin text: Migne, PL 35 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 7 (1888).

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Chapter 108

108.1PL 35:1915

Loquens adhuc Dominus ad Patrem, et orans pro discipulis suis, dicit: Ego dedi eis sermonem tuum, et mundus eos odio habuit. Nondum id experti fuerant passionibus suis, quæ illos postea sunt secutæ; sed more suo dicit ista, verbis præteriti temporis futura prænuntians. Deinde causam subjiciens cur eos ode­ rit mundus: Quia non sunt, inquit, de mundo, sicut et ego non sum de mundo. Hoc eis regeneratione col­ latum est: nam generatione de mundo erant, propter quod jam eis dixerat, Ego vos de mundo elegi. Donatum est ergo eis ut sicut ipse, nec ipsi essent de mundo, eos ipso liberante de mundo. Ipse autem de mundo nunquam fuit: quia etiam secun­ dum formam servi de Spiritu sancto ipse natus est, de quo illi renati. Nam si propterea illi jam non de mundo, quia renati sunt de Spiritu sancto; propterea ille nunquam de mundo, quia natus est de Spiritu sancto.

Still speaking to the Father and praying for his disciples, the Lord says: "I have given them your word, and the world has hated them." They had not yet experienced this in their sufferings, which came upon them afterward; but in his manner he says these things, foretelling future things in words of past time. Then, giving the reason why the world hated them: "Because they are not of the world," he says, "as I also am not of the world." This was conferred on them by regeneration; for by generation they were of the world; that is why he had already said to them, "I chose you out of the world." So it was granted them that, like him, they too should not be of the world, he himself freeing them from the world. But he himself was never of the world: because even according to the form of a servant he was born of the Holy Spirit, of whom they were reborn. For if they are no longer of the world because they were reborn of the Holy Spirit, he was never of the world because he was born of the Holy Spirit.

John 17:14 (quotation, high confidence) · John 15:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 1:35 (allusion, high confidence) · John 3:5 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The disciples are not of the world by rebirth from the Holy Spirit; Christ was never of the world, being born of the Spirit even in the form of a servant.

  • John 17:14 and 15:19 are quoted; Luke 1:35 and John 3:5 are in view.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): ad Patrem), → ad Patrem,; pro-discipulis → pro discipulis; mundus eoa odio → mundus eos odio; fucrant → fuerant; cur cos ode → cur eos ode; Hoc cis regeneratione → Hoc eis regeneratione; cos ipso libcrante → eos ipso liberante; Ipse. autem → Ipse autem; forinam servi → formam servi; ronati sunt → renati sunt; Spiriiu sancto → Spiritu sancto.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 108.1 (PL 35:1915; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/108-1/#p-108-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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108.2PL 35:1915

Non rogo, inquit, ut tollas eos de mundo, sed ut serves eos ex malo. Adhuc enim necessarium habe­ bant, quamvis jam non essent de mundo, esse tamen in mundo. Repetit eamdem sententiam: De mundo, inquit, non sunt, sicut et ego non sum de mundo. San­ ctifica eos in veritate. Sic enim servantur ex malo, quod superius oravit ut fieret. Quæri autem potest quomodo de mundo jam non erant, si sanctificati in veritate nondum erant; aut si jam erant, cur poscat ut sint. An quia et sanctificati in eadem proficiunt sanctitate, fiuntque sanctiores; neque hoc sine adju­ torio gratiæ Dei, sed illo eorum sanctificante prove­ ctum, qui sanctificavit incoeptum? Unde et Apostolus dicit: Qui in vobis opus bonum cœpit, perficiet usque in diem Christi Jesu. Sanctificantur ita­ que in veritate hæredes Testamenti Novi, cujus veri­ tatis umbræ fuerant sanctificationes Veteris Testa­ menti: et cum sanctificantur in veritate, utique san­ ctificantur in Christo, qui veraciter dixit, Ego sum via, et veritas, et vita. Item quando ait, Veritas liberabit vos, paulo post exponens quid dixe­ rit, Si vos, inquit, Filius liberaverit, tunc vere liberi eritis; ut ostenderet hoc se prius dixisse veritatem, quod postmodum Filium. Quid ergo aliud et hoc loco dixit, Sanctifica eos in veritate, nisi, sanctifica eos in me?

"I do not ask," he says, "that you take them out of the world, but that you keep them from evil." For they still needed, though no longer of the world, to be in the world. He repeats the same thought: "They are not of the world," he says, "as I also am not of the world. Sanctify them in the truth." For in this way they are kept from evil, as he prayed above. But it can be asked how they were no longer of the world if they had not yet been sanctified in the truth; or, if they already had been, why he asks that they may be. Is it because those who have been sanctified also make progress in the same holiness and become holier; and this not without the help of God's grace, but with him sanctifying their progress who sanctified their beginning? Hence the Apostle too says: "He who began a good work in you will bring it to completion until the day of Christ Jesus." So the heirs of the New Testament are sanctified in the truth, of which truth the sanctifications of the Old Testament were shadows; and when they are sanctified in the truth, they are certainly sanctified in Christ, who said truly, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life." Likewise when he says, "The truth will set you free," explaining a little later what he meant, he says, "If the Son sets you free, then you will be truly free," to show that what he had first called the truth he afterward called the Son. What else, then, did he say in this place too, "Sanctify them in the truth," but "sanctify them in me"?

John 17:15 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:16 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 1:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 10:1 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 14:6 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:32 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:36 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: "Sanctify them in the truth" asks for growth in holiness by grace; the truth is Christ himself, of whom the old sanctifications were shadows.

  • John 17:15–17, Phil 1:6, John 14:6, 8:32, and 8:36 are quoted; Heb 10:1 is echoed. Migne's inline reference is removed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's inline Scripture reference (leaked); OCR slip; stray mark): de,Mundo, acd ut serues → de mundo, sed ut serves; baut → bant; 'sanctitate → sanctitate; adjn → adju; torio grati e Dei → torio gratiæ Dei; Apostolus, dicit: → Apostolus dicit:; crerit → cœpit; (Philipp. I, G) → ; iu veritate bæredes → in veritate hæredes; fucrant sanctificationes → fuerant sanctificationes; cnm sanctificantur → cum sanctificantur; etificantur in Christo → ctificantur in Christo; qnid dixe → quid dixe; liberavent, tunc vere iiberi → liberaverit, tunc vere liberi; tlixisse → dixisse; hoe loco → hoc loco; Sanctipca eos in veriiate → Sanctifica eos in veritate; in me?. → in me?.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 108.2 (PL 35:1915; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/108-1/#p-108-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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108.3PL 35:1915

Denique sequitur, et hoc apertius insinuare non desinit: Sermo, inquit, tuus veritas est. Quid aliud dixit, quam, Ego veritas sum? Græcum quippe Evan­ gelium λόγος habet, quod etiam ibi legitur, ubi dictum est, In principio erat Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat Verbum. Et utique Verbum ipsum novi­ mus unigenitum Dei Filium, quod caro factum est et habitavit in nobis. Unde et hic poni potuit, et in quibusdam codicibus positum est, Ver­ bum tuum veritas est; sicut in quibusdam codicibus etiam ibi scriptum est, In principio erat sermo. In graeco autem sine ulla varietate, et ibi et hic λόγος est. Sanctificat itaque Pater in veritate, id est, in Verbo suo, in Unigenito suo, suos hæredes ejusque cohæredes.

Finally there follows, and he does not cease to suggest this more openly: "Your word," he says, "is truth." What else did he say but, "I am the truth"? For the Greek Gospel has logos, which is also read in the place where it is said, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." And certainly we know that Word itself to be the only-begotten Son of God, who "became flesh and dwelt among us." Hence here too verbum could have been put, and in some manuscripts it has been put: "Your Word (verbum) is truth"; just as in some manuscripts there too it is written, "In the beginning was the Word (sermo)." But in the Greek, without any variation, both there and here it is logos. So the Father sanctifies his own, heirs of himself and co-heirs with him, in the truth, that is, in his Word, in his Only-begotten.

John 17:17 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:6 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:17 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: "Your word is truth" means Christ, the Word (logos); the Father sanctifies his own in his only-begotten Son.

  • John 17:17, 1:1, and 1:14 are quoted; Rom 8:17 is in view. Augustine notes that Latin manuscripts render logos by sermo or verbum.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): hoe apertius → hoc apertius; Verbum,et Verbum erat apudDeum et Deus → Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus; mos unigenitum → mus unigenitum; fastum est → factum est; Uade et hic → Unde et hic; Vet → Ver; cHam ibi scriptum Cit In principio → etiam ibi scriptum est, In principio; et hie λόγος → et hic λόγος; Uuigenito suo, suos. haeredes → Unigenito suo, suos hæredes.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 108.3 (PL 35:1915; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/108-1/#p-108-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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108.4PL 35:1915

Sed nunc adhuc de Apostolis loquitur; nam secutus adjungit, Sicut me misisti in mundum, et ego misi eos in mundum. Quos misit, nisi Apostolos suos? Nam et ipsum nomen Apostolorum, quoniam græ­ cum est, nihil nisi missos significat in latino. Misit ergo Deus Filium suum non in carne peccati, sed in similitudine carnis peccati; et misit Filius ejus eos quos natos in carne peccati sanctifi­ cavit a labe peccati.

But he is still speaking now of the apostles; for he goes on to add, "As you sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world." Whom did he send but his apostles? For the very name "apostles," since it is Greek, means in Latin nothing but "those who are sent." So God sent his Son, not in sinful flesh but in the likeness of sinful flesh; and his Son sent those whom, born in sinful flesh, he sanctified from the stain of sin.

John 17:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:3 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: As the Father sent the Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, the Son sends the apostles, "those sent", whom he cleansed from sin.

  • John 17:18 is quoted; Rom 8:3 is in view.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): misi eoa in mundum → misi eos in mundum; curo est → cum est.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 108.4 (PL 35:1915; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/108-1/#p-108-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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108.5PL 35:1915–1917

Sed quoniam per hoc quod mediator Dei et homi­ num homo Christus Jesus factus est caput Ecclesiæ, illi membra sunt ejus; ideo ait quod sequitur, Et pro eis ego sanctifico meipsum. Quid est enim, Et pro eis ego san­ ctifico meipsum, nisi, eos in meipso sanctifico, cum et ipsi sint ego? Quoniam de quibus hoc ait, ut dixit membra sunt ejus, et unus est Christus caput et cor­ pus: docente Apostolo atque dicente de semine Abra­ hæ, Si autem vos Christi, ergo semen Abrahæ estis; cum dixisset superius, Non dicit, Et seminibus tanquam in multis; sed tanquam in uno, Et semini tuo, quod est Christus. Si ergo semen Abrahæ, hoc est Christus, quid aliud dictum est quibus dictum est, Ergo semen Abrahæ estis, nisi, ergo Christus estis? Inde est quod alio loco idem ipse apostolus ait: Nunc gaudeo in passionibus pro vobis, et adimpleo ea quæ desunt pressurarum Christi, in carne mea. Non dixit, pressurarum mearum, sed, Christi; quia membrum erat Christi; et in persecutionibus suis, quales Christum in suo toto corpore pati oportebat, etiam ipse pressuras ejus pro sua portione adimple­ bat. Quod ut etiam hoc loco certum sit, attende se­ quentia. Cum enim dixisset, Et pro eis ego sanctifico meipsum, ut intelligeremus hoc eum dixisse, quod eos sanctificaret in se, mox addidit, Ut sint et ipsi san­ ctificati in veritate. Quod quid est aliud quam, in me, secundum id quod veritas est Verbum illud in prin­ cipio Deus? In quo et ipse filius hominis sanctificatus est ab initio creationis suæ, quando Verbum factum est caro; quia una persona facta est Verbum et homo. Tunc ergo sanctificavit se in se, hoc est, hominem se in Verbo se; quia unus Christus Verbum et homo, sanctificans hominem in Verbo. Propter sua vero membra, Et pro eis, inquit, ego, id est, quod prosit etiam ipsis, quia et ipsi sunt ego; sicut mihi profuit in me, quia homo sum sine ipsis: Et ego sanctifico meipsum, hoc est, ipsos in me tanquam meipsum san­ ctifico ego, quoniam in me etiam ipsi sunt ego. Ut sint et ipsi sanctificati in veritate. Quid est et ipsi, nisi, quemadmodum ego; in veritate, quod ipse sum ego? Deinde jam non solum de Apostolis, sed etiam de suis cæteris membris incipit dicere: quod donante ipso, alio sermone tractandum est.

But since, through the fact that the mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, was made head of the church, they are his members, he therefore says what follows: "And for them I sanctify myself." For what is "And for them I sanctify myself," but: I sanctify them in myself, since they too are I? For those of whom he says this are, as I said, his members, and the head and the body are one Christ, as the Apostle teaches when he says of the seed of Abraham, "But if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed," having said above, "It does not say, And to seeds, as of many, but as of one, And to your seed, which is Christ." If, then, the seed of Abraham is Christ, what else was said to those to whom it was said, "Then you are Abraham's seed," but "Then you are Christ"? Hence it is that the same apostle says in another place: "Now I rejoice in my sufferings for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is lacking of the afflictions of Christ." He did not say "of my afflictions" but "of Christ's," because he was a member of Christ; and in his persecutions, such as Christ had to suffer in his whole body, he too was filling up, for his part, Christ's afflictions. That this may be certain in this place too, attend to what follows. For when he had said, "And for them I sanctify myself," so that we might understand that he said this meaning that he sanctifies them in himself, he at once added, "that they too may be sanctified in the truth." What is this but "in me," according to the fact that the truth is that Word who in the beginning is God? In that Word the son of man himself too was sanctified from the beginning of his creation, when the Word became flesh, because the Word and man became one person. Then, therefore, he sanctified himself in himself, that is, himself the man in himself the Word; because the Word and man are one Christ, sanctifying the man in the Word. But on account of his members he says, "And for them I": that is, so that it may benefit them too, because they too are I; just as it benefited me in myself, because I am man apart from them; "I sanctify myself," that is, I sanctify them in myself as myself, since in me they too are I. "That they too may be sanctified in the truth." What is "they too" but "as I am"; "in the truth," which I myself am? Then he begins to speak not only of the apostles but also of his other members; which, by his gift, must be treated in another sermon.

1 Tim 2:5 (allusion, high confidence) · John 17:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 3:29 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 3:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Col 1:24 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:14 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Christ sanctifies himself for his members because head and body are one Christ; the man was sanctified in the Word at the incarnation, and his members are sanctified in him.

  • John 17:19, Gal 3:29, Gal 3:16, and Col 1:24 are quoted; 1 Tim 2:5, John 1:1, and 1:14 are in view. The teaching of the whole Christ, head and body, is translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): facetus est caput → factus est caput; sequitur, Et pro eia ego → sequitur, Et pro eis ego; Et pro eia ego san­ → Et pro eis ego san­; dixisset, Et pro eia → dixisset, Et pro eis; semini tuo, quod eat Christus → semini tuo, quod est Christus; adimpleo ea quas desunt → adimpleo ea quæ desunt; eliam ipse pressuras → etiam ipse pressuras; Quod ut eliam hoc loco → Quod ut etiam hoc loco; clificati → ctificati; Quod quid, est aliud → Quod quid est aliud; In quo ct ipse → In quo et ipse; hominem se I in Verbo se → hominem se in Verbo se; et homo, - sanctificans hominem. in Verbo → et homo, sanctificans hominem in Verbo; ego, id cst, quod → ego, id est, quod; mibi profuit → mihi profuit; sau → san; cæeteris membris incipit dicerc → cæteris membris incipit dicere.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 108.5 (PL 35:1915–1917; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/108-1/#p-108-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 109

109.1PL 35:1917

Dominus Jesus jam propinquante passione, cum orasset pro discipulis suis, quos et Apostolos no­ minavit, cum quibus coenaverat ultimam coenam, de qua traditor ejus per buccellam manifestatus exierat, et cum quibus post ejus egressum antequam pro eis oraret, multa jam fuerat locutus; adjunxit et cæteros qui in eum fuerant credituri, et ait ad Patrem, Non pro his autem rogo tantum, id est pro discipulis qui cum illo tunc erant: sed et pro eis, inquit, qui credituri sunt per verbum eorum in me. Ubi omnes suos intelligi voluit, non solum qui tunc erant in carne, sed etiam qui futuri erant. Quotquot enim postea crediderunt in eum, per verbum Apostolorum sine dubio credide­ runt, et donec veniat, credituri sunt: ipsis enim di­ xerat, Et vos testimonium perhibebitis, quia ab initio mecum estis; et per hos Evangelium ministratum est, et antequam scriberetur, et utique quisquis in Christum credit, Evangelio credit. Non ita­ que hi tantum intelligendi sunt, quos ait in se credi­ turos per verbum eorum, qui ipsos, cum in carne vi­ verent, Apostolos audierunt; sed et post obitum eorum, et nos longe post nati, per verbum eorum credidimus in Christum. Quoniam ipsi qui cum illo tunc fuerunt, quod ab illo audierunt, cæteris prædicave­ runt: atque ita verbum eorum, ut etiam nos crede­ remus, ad nos usque pervenit, ubicumque est ejus Ecclesia; et perventurum est ad posteros, quicumque, ubicumque postea in eum credituri sunt.

The Lord Jesus, as his passion now drew near, after praying for his disciples, whom he also named apostles, with whom he had eaten the last supper, from which his betrayer, revealed by the morsel, had gone out, and with whom he had already spoken much after the betrayer's departure before he prayed for them, added the others too who would believe in him, and said to the Father, "Yet I do not ask for these only," that is, for the disciples who were then with him, "but also for those," he says, "who will believe in me through their word." Here he wished all his own to be understood, not only those who were then in the flesh but also those who were to come. For all who afterward believed in him beyond doubt believed through the word of the apostles, and will believe until he comes; for he had said to them, "And you will bear witness, because you have been with me from the beginning"; and through them the gospel was ministered, even before it was written; and certainly whoever believes in Christ believes the gospel. So those whom he says will believe in him through their word are to be understood not only as those who heard the apostles themselves while they lived in the flesh; but after their death we too, born long afterward, have believed in Christ through their word. For those who were with him then preached to others what they had heard from him; and so their word has reached even us, so that we too might believe, wherever his church is; and it will reach those who come after, whoever and wherever they are who will believe in him in the future.

John 13:30 (allusion, high confidence) · John 17:20 (quotation, high confidence) · John 15:27 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Christ prayed for all who would ever believe through the apostles' word, including believers of later ages.

  • John 17:20 and 15:27 are quoted; John 13:26–30 is in view.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): jam ua propinquante → jam propinquante; Aposiolps → Apostolos; aulequam → antequam; loculus; adjuuxiL → locutus; adjunxit; tunc crant → tunc erant; credituri suut → credituri sunt; curn.in carne → cum in carne; ctiam nos → etiam nos; perveuit → pervenit.

Topics: Prayer

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 109.1 (PL 35:1917; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/108-1/#p-109-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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109.2PL 35:1917

Potest itaque videri Jesus in hac oratione non orasse pro quibusdam suis, nisi diligenter scrutemur in eadem oratione verba ejus. Si enim pro eis prius oravit, sicut jam ostendimus, qui cum illo tunc erant, postea vero etiam pro eis qui per verbum eorum in illum fuerant credituri; potest dici non orasse pro illis qui neque tunc erant cum illo quando ista dicebat, neque per verbum eorum postea, sed in eum sive per ipsos, sive quomodolibet, tamen ante crediderant. Numquid enim cum illo tunc erat Nathanael? Num­ quid Joseph ille ab Arimathia, qui corpus ejus a Pi­ lato petiit, quem jam discipulum ejus fuisse iste ipse Joannes evangelista testatur? Numquid Maria mater ejus, et aliæ feminæ, quas ejus discipulas in Evangelio jam tunc fuisse didicimus? Numquid cum illo tunc erant de quibus sæpe dicit idem Joannes evangelista, Multi crediderunt in eum? Nam unde erat mul­ titudo illa eorum qui cum ramis partim præcedebant, partim sequebantur insidentem jumento, dicentes, Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini; et cum eis pueri, de quibus ipse ait fuisse prædictum, Ex ore infantium et lactentium perfecisti laudem? Unde quingenti fratres, quibus simul post resurrectionem non apparuisset, nisi in eum ante credidissent? Unde illi cen­ tum et novem, qui cum istis undecim centum et vi­ ginti erant, quando simul congregati post ejus ascen­ sum exspectaverunt, et acceperunt promissum Spiri­ tum sanctum? Unde erant isti omnes, nisi ex illis de quibus dictum est, Multi credi­ derunt in eum? Non ergo pro eis tunc oravit Salvator, quoniam pro eis oravit qui cum illo tunc erant, et pro aliis qui per verbum eorum in eum non jam credide­ rant, sed fuerant credituri. Isti autem nec cum illo tunc erant, et in eum jam ante crediderant. Omitto dicere de Simeone sene, qui in infantulum credidit; de Anna prophetissa; de Zacharia et Elisabeth, qui eum prophetaverunt antequam de Vir­ gine nasceretur; de filio eorum Joanne præcursore ejus, amico sponsi, qui eum et in sancto Spiritu agnovit, et absentem prædicavit, et aliis agnoscendum cum praesens esset ostendit: hos omitto, quoniam respon­ deri potest orandum pro talibus mortuis non fuisse, qui cum magnis suis meritis hinc abierant, et recepti quiescebant; hoc enim et de antiquis justis similiter respondetur. Quis enim eorum a damnatione totius massæ perditionis, quæ per unum hominem facta est salvus esse potuisset, nisi in unum Mediatorem Dei et hominum in carne venturum revelante Spiritu ere­ didisset? Sed numquid ei pro Apostolis orandum fuit, et pro tam multis qui in hac vita adhuc erant, nec cum illo tunc erant, et jam ante crediderant, orandum non fuit? Quis hoc dixerit?

So Jesus might seem in this prayer not to have prayed for some of his own, unless we carefully examine his words in this same prayer. For if he prayed first, as we have already shown, for those who were then with him, and afterward also for those who would believe in him through their word, it could be said that he did not pray for those who were neither with him then, when he was saying these things, nor came to believe in him afterward through their word, but had believed in him before, whether through them or in any other way. For was Nathanael with him then? Was that Joseph of Arimathea, who asked Pilate for his body, whom this same evangelist John testifies to have already been his disciple? Was Mary his mother, and the other women, whom we have learned from the Gospel to have already been his disciples at that time? Were those with him then of whom the same evangelist John often says, "Many believed in him"? For where did that multitude come from who with branches partly went before him and partly followed him as he sat on the beast, saying, "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord"; and with them the children, of whom he himself said it had been foretold, "Out of the mouth of infants and nursing babes you have perfected praise"? Where did the five hundred brothers come from, to whom he would not have appeared together after the resurrection unless they had believed in him before? Where did those hundred and nine come from who, with these eleven, were a hundred and twenty when they were gathered together after his ascension and awaited and received the promised Holy Spirit? Where did all these come from, if not from those of whom it was said, "Many believed in him"? So the Savior did not pray for them then, since he prayed for those who were then with him, and for others who had not yet believed in him through their word but were going to believe. But these were not with him then, and had already believed in him before. I pass over the old man Simeon, who believed in him as an infant; Anna the prophetess; Zechariah and Elizabeth, who prophesied of him before he was born of the Virgin; their son John, his forerunner, the friend of the bridegroom, who both recognized him in the Holy Spirit, and preached him when he was absent, and showed him to others to be recognized when he was present. I pass over these, since it can be answered that there was no need to pray for such dead, who had departed hence with their great merits and, having been received, were at rest; for this is answered likewise of the righteous of old. For which of them could have been saved from the condemnation of the whole mass of perdition, which came about through one man, unless, by the Spirit's revelation, he had believed in the one mediator between God and men who was to come in the flesh? But was there need for him to pray for the apostles, and no need to pray for so many who were still in this life, were not with him then, and had already believed before? Who would say this?

John 17:20 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:49 (allusion, high confidence) · John 19:38 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 8:2 (allusion, high confidence) · John 2:23 (quotation, medium confidence) · Matt 21:8 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 21:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 21:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 8:2 (8:3 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 1:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 2:25 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 2:36 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 1:67 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 1:41 (allusion, high confidence) · John 3:29 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:29 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 5:12 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Tim 2:5 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine raises the difficulty that many who had already believed, such as Nathanael, Joseph of Arimathea, Mary, and the crowds, seem left out of Christ's prayer.

  • John 17:20 is in view; Ps 8:2 (Matt 21:16) and Matt 21:9 are quoted; Nathanael (John 1:45–49), Joseph of Arimathea (John 19:38), the women disciples (Luke 8:2–3), the five hundred (1 Cor 15:6), the hundred and twenty (Acts 1:15), Simeon and Anna (Luke 2:25–38), Zechariah and Elizabeth (Luke 1), and John the Baptist as friend of the bridegroom (John 3:29) are recalled. The teaching on the mass of perdition and the faith of the righteous of old is translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): non prasse → non orasse; scrptemur → scrutemur; Si cnim pro eis → Si enim pro eis; per verbum corum → per verbum eorum; dice. bat → dicebat; tamen anie crediderant → tamen ante crediderant; tunc crat Nathanael → tunc erat Nathanael; discipulum. ejus → discipulum ejus; Mulli crediderunt → Multi crediderunt; unde crat mul → unde erat mul; titudp → titudo; et cum cis pueri → et cum eis pueri; taudem → laudem; nisa in eum → nisi in eum; tum ei povem, qui eum istis → tum et novem, qui cum istis; eongregati → congregati; Uude erant → Unde erant; pro ei oravit → pro eis oravit; dicore do Simeone → dicere de Simeone; prophetisaa → prophetissa; line nasceretur → gine nasceretur; Joanpe → Joanne; amjco → amico; alis agnoscendum cum → aliis agnoscendum cum; bos omkto → hos omitto; Quis euim eorum a damnatioqe → Quis enim eorum a damnatione; massae perditionis, quas per unum → massæ perditionis, quæ per unum; Dei pt hominum → Dei et hominum; orandum nep fuit → orandum non fuit.

Topics: Prayer

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 109.2 (PL 35:1917; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/108-1/#p-109-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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109.3PL 35:1917

Intelligendum est igitur, quod nondum in eum sic crediderant, quomodo in se credi volebat: quan­ doquidem et ipse Petrus, cui confitenti et dicenti, Tu es Christus Filius Dei vivi, tam magnum testimonium perhibuerat, magis eum mori nolebat, quam mortuum resurrecturum esse credebat; unde mox ab eo appel­ latus est satanas. Fideliores itaque reperiuntur, qui defuncti jam fuerant, et resur­ recturum Christum revelante Spiritu non utique du­ bitabant, quam illi qui cum credidissent ipsum redem­ pturum Israel, visa ejus morte spem totam quam de illo habuerant perdiderunt. Nihil itaque melius credi­ mus, quam post ejus resurrectionem impertito Spiritu sancto, et doctis ac confirmatis Apostolis, eisque in Ecclesia primitus doctoribus constitutis, per eorum verbum sic alios credidisse quemadmodum in Chri­ stum credi oportebat, id est, ut fidem resurrectionis ejus tenerent. Ac per hoc et illos omnes qui jam in eum credidisse videbantur, ad eorum numerum per­ tinuisse pro quibus oravit, dicens, Non pro his autem rogo tantum, sed et pro eis qui credituri sunt per ver­ bum eorum in me.

It must be understood, then, that they had not yet believed in him in the way in which he wished to be believed in: since even Peter himself, to whom, when he confessed and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God," he had borne such great testimony, rather did not want him to die than believed that, having died, he would rise again; hence he was soon called Satan by him. So those are found to have been more faithful who had already died and who, by the Spirit's revelation, certainly did not doubt that Christ would rise, than those who, having believed that he would redeem Israel, lost all the hope they had had in him when they saw his death. So we believe nothing more fittingly than that, after his resurrection, when the Holy Spirit had been imparted and the apostles had been taught and strengthened and established as the first teachers in the church, others believed through their word in the way one ought to believe in Christ, that is, so as to hold the faith of his resurrection. And therefore all those too who already seemed to have believed in him belonged to the number of those for whom he prayed, saying, "Yet I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word."

Matt 16:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 16:22 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 16:23 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 24:21 (allusion, high confidence) · John 17:20 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Those who seemed already to believe did not yet hold faith in the resurrection; they too came to true faith through the apostles' word and were included in Christ's prayer.

  • Matt 16:16, Luke 24:21, and John 17:20 are quoted; Matt 16:22–23 is in view.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): confilenti → confitenti; resurrecturun esse oredebat; unde mox ab co → resurrecturum esse credebat; unde mox ab eo; satans → satanas; DOn utique da → non utique du; rodem → redem; pturum israel → pturum Israel; jUlo → illo; ituque → itaque; ejqs → ejus; doctis at, confirmatis → doctis ac confirmatis; quelnadmodum → quemadmodum; oporiebat → oportebat; Ac per hoe → Ac per hoc; credituri tunt → credituri sunt.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 109.3 (PL 35:1917; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/108-1/#p-109-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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109.4PL 35:1917–1919

Sed restat nobis ad istam quæstionem adhuc sol­ vendam beatus Apostolus, et latro ille crudelis in scelere, fidelis in cruce. Paulus quippe apostolus non ab hominibus, neque per hominem, sed per Jesum Christum se dicit factum Apostolum: et de ipso suo evangelio loquens ait, Neque enim ab homine ego ac­ cepi illud, neque didici; sed per revelationem Jesu Christi. Quomodo igitur erat in eis de quibus dictum est, credituri sunt per verbum eorum in me? Latro vero ille tunc credidit, quando in ipsis doctoribus fides quæ fuerat qualiscumque defecit. Nec ipse itaque per eorum verbum credidit in Chri­ stum Jesum: et tamen sic credidit, ut quem videbat crucifixum, confiteretur non solum resurrecturum, verum etiam regnaturum, dicendo, Memento mei, cum veneris in regnum tuum.

But there still remain for us, in solving this question, the blessed Apostle and that thief, cruel in crime, faithful on the cross. For the apostle Paul says he was made an apostle not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ; and speaking of his gospel he says, "For I did not receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but through a revelation of Jesus Christ." How then was he among those of whom it was said, "who will believe in me through their word"? And that thief believed at the very time when such faith as there had been in the teachers themselves failed. So neither did he believe in Christ Jesus through their word; and yet he believed in such a way as to confess that the one he saw crucified would not only rise again but also reign, saying, "Remember me when you come into your kingdom."

Gal 1:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Gal 1:12 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 23:42 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Paul, taught by revelation, and the penitent thief, who believed when the apostles' faith failed, seem not to have believed through the apostles' word.

  • Gal 1:12, John 17:20, and Luke 23:42 are quoted; Gal 1:1 is paraphrased.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; missing stop): rendam → vendam; fidelis in cruce Paulus → fidelis in cruce. Paulus; neque par hominem, sod per → neque per hominem, sed per; se dicat → se dicit; revelotionem → revelationem; in cis de quibus → in eis de quibus; verbum comm in me → verbum eorum in me; tides quoe fuerat → fides quæ fuerat; crucilixum → crucifixum.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 109.4 (PL 35:1917–1919; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/108-1/#p-109-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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109.5PL 35:1919

Proinde relinquitur, ut si Dominus Jesus hac oratione pro suis omnibus quicumque in hac vita, quae tentatio est super terram, vel tunc erant, vel futuri erant, orasse credendus est, sic intelliga­ mus quod dictum est, per verbum eorum, ut ipsum verbum fidei quod prædicaverunt in mundo, hic signi­ ficatum esse credamus; dictum autem esse verbum eorum, quoniam ab ipsis est primitus ac præcipue prædicatum. Jam enim ab ipsis prædicabatur in terra, quando per revelationem Jesu Christi ipsum verbum eorum Paulus accepit. Unde et contulit cum eis Evangelium, ne forte in vacuum cucurrisset aut cur­ reret; et dexteras ei dederunt: quia et in illo, quam­ vis non per eos illi datum; tamen verbum suum, quod jam prædicabant, et in quo fundati fuerant, invene­ rant. De quo verbo resurrectionis Christi idem dicit apostolus, « Sive ego, sive illi, sic prædicamus, et sic credidistis »; et iterum, « Hoc est, » inquit, « verbum fidei quod prae­ dicamus, quia si confessus fueris in ore tuo quia Do­ minus est Jesus, et credideris in corde tuo quia Deus illum suscitavit a mortuis, salvus eris ». Et in Actibus Apostolorum legitur quod in Christo Deus definierit fidem omnibus, suscitans eum a mortuis. Hoc verbum fidei, quia principa­ liter ac primitus per Apostolos, qui ei cohæserant, praedicatum est, ideo verbum eorum dictum est. Ne­ que enim propterea non est verbum Dei, quia dictum est verbum eorum; cum dicat idem apostolus Thes­ salonicenses excepisse a se, non ut verbum hominum, sed, sicut est, vere verbum Dei. Ideo ergo Dei, quia Deus id donavit; eorum vero verbum dictum est, quia hoc prædicandum illis Deus primitus ac præcipue commendavit. Ac per hoc etiam ille la­ tro in sua fide verbum eorum habebat: quod eorum propterea dictum erat, quoniam prædicandum ad eo­ rum officium primitus ac præcipue pertinebat. Deni­ que cum murmur factum esset de ministerio mensa­ rum a viduis Græcorum, antequam Paulus credidis­ set in Christum; responderunt Apostoli, qui Domino ante cohaeserant: Non est bonum nos relinquere ver­ bum Dei, et ministrare mensis. Tunc or­ dinandos diaconos providerunt, ne ipsi a praedicandi verbi avocarentur officio. Unde merito dictum est verbum eorum, quod est verbum fidei, per quod omnes in Christum, undecumque id audierint, credi­ derunt, vel audituri et credituri sunt. Ergo illa ora­ tione pro omnibus quos redemit, sive tunc in carne viventes, sive postea futuros, Redemptor noster oravit, cum rogans pro Apostolis qui cum illo tunc erant, ad­ junxit etiam illos qui per eorum verbum in eum fue­ rant credituri. Quid autem adjunctis illis deinde dicat, alia est disputatione tractandum.

It remains, then, if the Lord Jesus is to be believed to have prayed in this prayer for all his own who either then were or were to be in this life, which is a trial upon earth, that we understand the words "through their word" in such a way as to believe that the very word of faith which they preached in the world is signified here; and that it was called their word because it was first and chiefly preached by them. For it was already being preached by them on earth when Paul received that same word of theirs through the revelation of Jesus Christ. Hence he also compared the gospel with them, lest perhaps he should run or had run in vain; and they gave him their right hands, because in him too, though it had not been given him through them, they found their own word, which they were already preaching and on which they had been founded. Of this word of Christ's resurrection the same apostle says, "Whether it was I or they, so we preach, and so you believed"; and again, "This is," he says, "the word of faith which we preach, that if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." And in the Acts of the Apostles one reads that in Christ God has set forth faith for all by raising him from the dead. This word of faith, because it was preached chiefly and first by the apostles, who had cleaved to him, is therefore called their word. Nor is it not the word of God because it is called their word; since the same apostle says that the Thessalonians received it from him, not as the word of men, but as it truly is, the word of God. It is God's, then, because God gave it; but it is called their word because God entrusted it first and chiefly to them to be preached. And so that thief too had their word in his faith: it was called theirs for this reason, that preaching it belonged first and chiefly to their office. Finally, when a murmur arose from the widows of the Greeks about the ministry of tables, before Paul had believed in Christ, the apostles, who had cleaved to the Lord before, answered, "It is not good that we should leave the word of God and serve tables." Then they provided for deacons to be ordained, so that they themselves would not be called away from the office of preaching the word. So it is rightly called their word, the word of faith, through which all, from wherever they heard it, have believed in Christ, or will hear and believe. In that prayer, then, our Redeemer prayed for all whom he redeemed, whether then living in the flesh or to come afterward, when, praying for the apostles who were then with him, he added also those who would believe in him through their word. But what he then says after adding them must be treated in another discourse.

Job 7:1 (allusion, medium confidence) · Gal 2:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Gal 2:9 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 10:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 10:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 17:31 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Thess 2:13 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 6:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 6:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 6:6 (allusion, high confidence) · John 17:20 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: "Their word" is the word of faith in Christ's resurrection, first entrusted to the apostles to preach; all believers, Paul and the thief included, believe through it.

  • 1 Cor 15:11, Rom 10:8–9, 1 Thess 2:13, Acts 6:2, and John 17:20 are quoted; Job 7:1, Gal 2:2, 9, Acts 17:31, and Acts 6:1–6 are in view.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (quotation marks)): pro auis omnibus → pro suis omnibus; vei futuri crant → vel futuri erant; intciliga → intelliga; £vangelium → Evangelium; et iu quo → et in quo; < Sive ego, sive illi, sic prædicamus, et sic credidistis > → « Sive ego, sive illi, sic prædicamus, et sic credidistis »; < Hoc est, I inquit, < verbum → « Hoc est, » inquit, « verbum; salvus eris >. £t in → salvus eris ». Et in; deQnicrit → definierit; a mor. tuis → a mortuis; noM ut verbum → non ut verbum; sicut eat, vere → sicut est, vere; illela → ille la; bonum noa relinquere → bonum nos relinquere; dcrunt → derunt; Rcdemptor nosterornvit → Redemptor noster oravit; tunc crant. ad → tunc erant, ad; junxit eliam illos qui per corum verbum in cum → junxit etiam illos qui per eorum verbum in eum.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 109.5 (PL 35:1919; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/108-1/#p-109-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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