Tractates on the Gospel of John 35.1–35.9
Latin text: Migne, PL 35 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 7 (1888).
Chapter 35
35.1PL 35:1657
De verbis Domini nostri Jesu Christi, ubi ait, Ego sum lux mundi: qui me sequitur, non ambulabit in tenebris; sed habebit lumen vitæ, he sterno die qui adfuistis, diu disputatum esse memi nistis: et si adhuc velimus de illo lumine disputare, diu loqui possumus; nam non possumus explicare compendio. Itaque, fratres mei, sequamur Christum lumen mundi, ne ambulemus in tenebris. Tenebræ metuendæ sunt, morum, non oculorum: et si oculo rum, non exteriorum, sed interiorum, unde discerni tur non album et nigrum, sed justum et injustum.
Those of you who were present yesterday remember that there was a long discussion of the words of our Lord Jesus Christ where he says, “I am the light of the world; he who follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” And if we wanted to discuss that light further, we could speak long; for we cannot explain it briefly. So, my brothers, let us follow Christ, the light of the world, so that we may not walk in darkness. The darkness to be feared is that of morals, not of eyes; and if of eyes, not the outer but the inner, by which is discerned not white and black but just and unjust.
John 8:12 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Following Christ the light of the world means avoiding the darkness of morals, discerned by the inner eyes.
- John 8:12 is quoted.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (in. tenebris → in tenebris); OCR slip in the digital text (mem! nislis → memi nistis)): in. tenebris → in tenebris; mem! nislis → memi nistis.
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 35.1 (PL 35:1657; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/35-1/#p-35-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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35.2PL 35:1657
Cum hæc ergo dixisset Dominus noster Jesus Christus, responderunt Judæi: Tu de te testimonium dicis; testimonium tuum non est verum. Antequam ve niret Dominus noster Jesus Christus, multas ante se lucernas propheticas accendit et misit. De his etiam erat Joannes Baptista, cui tam magnum ipsum lumen, quod est Dominus Christus, perhibuit testimonium, quale nulli hominum: ait enim, In natis mulierum non surrexit major Joanne Baptista. Hic ta men, quo nemo erat major in natis mulierum, dicit de Domino Jesu Christo: Ego quidem baptizo vos in aqua; qui autem venit, fortior me est, cujus non sum dignus calceamentum solvere. Videte quemadmodum se lucerna diei submittat. Lucernam vero ipsum Joannem fuisse Dominus ipse testatur: Ille erat, inquit, lucerna ardens et lucens; et vos volui stis ad horam exsultare in lumine ejus. Quando autem dixerunt Judæi Domino, Dic nobis, in qua potestate ista facis? sciens Dominus quia Joannem Baptistam pro magno haberent, et quod ipse quem pro magno habebant, eis de Domino testimonium per hibuisset, respondit eis: Interrogabo et ego vos unum sermonem: dicite mihi, Baptismus Joannis unde est? de coelo, an ex hominibus? Turbati illi intra semet ipsos cogitabant, quia si dicerent, Ab hominibus, la pidari possent a turba, quæ Joannem prophetam esse credebat: si dicerent, De coelo, responderet eis, ille quem confitemini de coelo habuisse prophetiam, mihi testimonium perhibuit, et ab illo audistis in qua ego ista faciam potestate. Viderunt ergo, quodlibet ho rum respondissent, in laqueum se casuros; et dixe runt, Nescimus. Et Dominus eis: Nec ego dico vobis, in qua potestate ista facio. Non vo bis dico quod scio, quia non vultis fateri quod scitis. Justissime utique repulsi, confusi abscesserunt: et im pletum est quod in Psalmo per Prophetam dicit Deus Pater, Paravi lucernam Christo meo, id est, ipsum Joannem; inimicos ejus induam confusione.
When our Lord Jesus Christ had said these things, then, “the Jews answered, You bear witness of yourself; your witness is not true.” Before our Lord Jesus Christ came, he lit and sent ahead of himself many prophetic lamps. Of these was John the Baptist too, to whom the very great light itself, which is the Lord Christ, bore such witness as to no one else among men; for he said, “Among those born of women there has not arisen one greater than John the Baptist.” Yet this man, than whom no one was greater among those born of women, says of the Lord Jesus Christ, “I indeed baptize you in water; but he who comes is mightier than I, the strap of whose sandal I am not worthy to loose.” See how the lamp submits itself to the day. That John himself was a lamp the Lord himself testifies: “He was,” he says, “a burning and shining lamp; and you were willing for an hour to rejoice in his light.” But when the Jews said to the Lord, “Tell us, by what authority do you do these things?”, the Lord, knowing that they held John the Baptist to be great, and that he whom they held to be great had borne witness to them about the Lord, answered them: “I too will ask you one question: tell me, the baptism of John, where is it from? From heaven, or from men?” Troubled, they reasoned among themselves that if they said, “From men,” they could be stoned by the crowd, which believed John to be a prophet; if they said, “From heaven,” he would answer them: He whom you confess to have had prophecy from heaven bore witness to me, and from him you heard by what authority I do these things. So they saw that whichever of these they answered, they would fall into a snare; and they said, “We do not know.” And the Lord said to them, “Neither do I tell you by what authority I do these things.” I do not tell you what I know, because you will not confess what you know. Most justly rebuffed, they went away confounded; and what God the Father says through the prophet in the Psalm was fulfilled: “I have prepared a lamp for my Christ” (that is, John himself); “his enemies I will clothe with confusion.”
John 8:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 11:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 3:11 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:27 (quotation, medium confidence) · John 5:35 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 21:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 21:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 21:25 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 21:26 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 21:27 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 132:17 (131:17 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 132:18 (131:18 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ sent prophetic lamps before him, among them John the Baptist, whose witness he used to confound those who questioned his authority.
- John 8:13, Matt 11:11, Matt 3:11 (with John 1:27), John 5:35, Matt 21:23–27, and Ps 132:17–18 (131:17–18 LXX) are quoted.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (abscessenmt → abscesserunt); OCR slip in the digital text (cat Dominus → est Dominus); OCR slip in the digital text (cis de Domine → eis de Domino); OCR slip in the digital text (conflemini → confitemini); OCR slip in the digital text (eat → est); OCR slip in the digital text (eis - Interrogabo → eis: Interrogabo); OCR slip in the digital text (iti Psalmo → in Psalmo); OCR slip in the digital text (milii → mihi); OCR slip in the digital text (noM cat → non est); OCR slip in the digital text (po sent → possent); OCR slip in the digital text (sernet ipsos → semet ipsos); OCR slip in the digital text (ununi → unum); OCR slip in the digital text (vobis, ' in → vobis, in)): noM cat → non est; cat Dominus → est Dominus; me eat, → me est,; cis de Domine → eis de Domino; eis - Interrogabo → eis: Interrogabo; ununi → unum; sernet ipsos → semet ipsos; po sent → possent; conflemini → confitemini; milii → mihi; vobis, ' in → vobis, in; abscessenmt → abscesserunt; iti Psalmo → in Psalmo.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 35.2 (PL 35:1657; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/35-1/#p-35-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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35.3PL 35:1657–1659
Habebat ergo Dominus Jesus Christus testimo nium Prophetarum ante se præmissorum, præconum judicem præcedentium; habebat testimonium a Joan ne: sed ipse majus testimonium erat, quod sibi perhibebat. Illi autem infirmis oculis lucernas quærebant, quia diem ferre non poterant: nam Joannes idem ipse apostolus, cujus Evangelium in manibus habemus, in ipsius Evangelii sui capite ait de Joanne, Erat homo missus a Deo, cui nomen erat Joannes: hic venit in testimonium, ut testimonium perhiberet de lumine, ut omnes crederent per eum. Non erat ille lumen, sed ut testimonium perhiberet de lumine. Erat lumen verum, quod illuminat omnem hominem venientem in mundum. Si omnem, ergo et Joannem. Unde dicit et ipse Joannes, Nos omnes de plenitudine ejus acce pimus. Discernite ergo ista, ut pro ficiat mens vestra in fide Christi; ne semper infantes sitis ubera quærentes, et a cibo solido resilientes. Debetis apud matrem sanctam Ecclesiam Christi nu triri et ablactari, et ad escas solidiores accedere, mente, non ventre. Hoc ergo discernite, aliud esse lumen quod illuminat, aliud esse quod illuminatur. Nam et oculi nostri lumina dicuntur; et unusquisque ita jurat, tangens oculos suos, per lumina sua, Sic vi vant lumina mea: usitata juratio est. Quæ lumina si lumina sunt, desit lumen in cubiculo tuo clauso, pa teant et luceant tibi: non utique possunt. Quomodo ergo ista in facie quæ habemus, et lumina nuncupa mus, et quando sana sunt, et quando patent, indigent extrinsecus adjutorio luminis; quo ablato aut non il lato, sana sunt, aperta sunt, nec tamen vident: sic mens nostra, quæ est oculus animae, nisi veritatis lu mine radietur, et ab illo qui illuminat nec illumina tur, mirabiliter illustretur, nec ad sapientiam nec ad justitiam poterit pervenire. Ipsa est enim via nostra juste vivere. Quomodo autem non offendat in via, cui non lucet lumen? Ac per hoc in tali via videre opus est, in tali via videre magnum est. Nam Tobias in facie oculos clausos habebat, et filius patri manum dabat; pater filio viam præcipiendo monstrabat.
So the Lord Jesus Christ had the witness of the prophets sent before him, the heralds going before the judge; he had witness from John; but he himself was the greater witness, which he bore to himself. But they, with weak eyes, were seeking lamps, because they could not bear the day. For John the apostle himself, whose Gospel we have in hand, says of John at the beginning of his Gospel: “There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. He came for witness, to bear witness of the light, that all might believe through him. He was not the light, but came to bear witness of the light. That was the true light, which enlightens every man coming into the world.” If every man, then John too. Hence John himself also says, “We have all received of his fullness.” Distinguish these things, then, so that your mind may make progress in the faith of Christ, lest you always be infants seeking the breast and shrinking from solid food. You ought to be nourished and weaned with your holy mother, the Church of Christ, and come to more solid food, with the mind, not the belly. Distinguish this, then: the light that enlightens is one thing, what is enlightened another. For our eyes too are called lights; and each one swears thus, touching his eyes, by his lights: “As my lights may live”—it is a common oath. If these lights are lights, let light be lacking in your closed bedroom; let them be open and shine for you: they surely cannot. So, just as these in our face which we have and call lights, both when they are healthy and when they are open, need the help of light from outside, and when it is taken away or not brought in, they are healthy, they are open, and yet they do not see; so our mind, which is the eye of the soul, unless it is irradiated by the light of truth and wonderfully illumined by him who enlightens and is not enlightened, will be able to come neither to wisdom nor to justice. For to live justly is our very way. But how can one not stumble on the way, for whom the light does not shine? And so on such a way there is need to see; on such a way to see is a great thing. For Tobit had his eyes closed in his face, and the son gave his hand to the father; the father showed the son the way by instructing him.
John 1:6 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:7 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:8 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:9 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 5:12 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: John was a lamp enlightened by Christ, the true light; as bodily eyes need outside light, the mind needs the light of truth to walk the way of justice.
- John 1:6–9 and John 1:16 are quoted; Heb 5:12–14 (compare 1 Cor 3:2) is alluded to. The final sentence alludes to Tobit (Tob 2; 4–5), which is outside the 66 books. The digital text's stray reference “(Tob. II, it, iv)” is removed as apparatus. “Lights” (lumina) is a common Latin word for eyes.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text ((ide Christi → fide Christi); OCR slip in the digital text (ct ipse → et ipse); OCR slip in the digital text (ct quando → et quando); OCR slip in the digital text (habcbat → habebat); OCR slip in the digital text (iI lato → il lato); OCR slip in the digital text (majus I testimonium cr t, quod sibi per-. hibebat → majus testimonium erat, quod sibi perhibebat); OCR slip in the digital text (monstrabat(Tob. II, it, iv). → monstrabat.); OCR slip in the digital text (mundum. t Si → mundum. Si); OCR slip in the digital text (nit de Joanne, c Erathomo ixissus → ait de Joanne, Erat homo missus); OCR slip in the digital text (pa tcant et luceant libi → pa teant et luceant tibi); OCR slip in the digital text (premissorum → præmissorum); OCR slip in the digital text (qu:erebant → quærebant); OCR slip in the digital text (qui est oculus → quæ est oculus); OCR slip in the digital text (videre.magnum → videre magnum)): premissorum → præmissorum; habcbat → habebat; majus I testimonium cr t, quod sibi per-. hibebat → majus testimonium erat, quod sibi perhibebat; qu:erebant → quærebant; nit de Joanne, c Erathomo ixissus → ait de Joanne, Erat homo missus; mundum. t Si → mundum. Si; ct ipse → et ipse; (ide Christi → fide Christi; pa tcant et luceant libi → pa teant et luceant tibi; ct quando → et quando; iI lato → il lato; qui est oculus → quæ est oculus; videre.magnum → videre magnum; monstrabat(Tob. II, it, iv). → monstrabat..
Extrabiblical texts: Tob 2:10 (Tobit [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; allusion)
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 35.3 (PL 35:1657–1659; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/35-1/#p-35-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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35.4PL 35:1659
Responderunt ergo Judæi, Tu de te testimonium dicis; testimonium tuum non est verum. Videamus quid audiant: audiamus et nos, sed non sicut illi. Illi con temnentes, nos credentes: illi occidere Christum vo lentes, nos per Christum vivere cupientes. Interim ista distantia distinguat aures mentesque nostras, et audiamus quid Judaeis responderit Dominus. Respondit Jesus, et dixit eis: Etsi ego de me testimonium perhibeo, verum est testimonium meum; quia scio unde veni, et quo vado. Lumen et alia demonstrat et seipsum. Accen dis lucernam, verbi gratia, ut quæras tunicam, et præ stat tibi ardens lucerna ut invenias tunicam: numquid accendis lucernam ut videas ardentem lucernam? Lu cerna quippe ardens idonea est et alia quæ tenebris ope riebantur nudare, et seipsam tuis oculis demonstrare. Sic et Dominus Christus et inter fideles suos, et inimicos Judaeos, tanquam inter lucem et tenebras distingue bat; tanquam inter illos quos radio fidei perfundebat, et illos quorum clausos oculos circumfundebat. Nam etiam sol iste et videntis faciem illustrat, et cæci: ambo pariter stantes, et faciem ad solem habentes illustrantur in carne, sed non ambo illuminantur in acie; videt ille, ille non videt; ambobus sol praesens est, sed præsenti soli unus est absens. Sic et Sapien tia Dei, Verbum Dei, Dominus Jesus Christus ubi que præsens est; quia ubique est veritas, ubique est sapientia. Intelligit quis in oriente justitiam; intelli git alius in occidente justitiam: numquid alia est justitia quam ille intelligit, alia quam iste? Separati sunt corpore, et in uno habent acies mentium sua rum. Quam video justitiam hic constitutus, si justitia est, ipsam videt justus nescio quot mansionibus a me carne sejunctus, et in illius justitiæ luce conjunctus. Ergo testimonium sibi perhibet lux: aperit sanos ocu los, et sibi ipsa testis est, ut cognoscatur lux. Sed quid agimus de infidelibus? numquid illis non est præsens? Est præsens et illis: sed quibus eam vi deant, oculos non habent cordis. Audi de illis ex Evangelio ipso prolatam sententiam: Et lux lucet in tenebris, et tenebræ eam non comprehenderunt. Ergo ait Dominus, et verum ait, Etsi ego de me testimonium perhibeo, verum est testimonium meum; quia scio unde veni, et quo vado. Patrem volebat intel ligi; Patri gloriam dabat Filius. Æqualis glorificat eum a quo est missus: quantum debet homo glorificare eum a quo est creatus?
So “the Jews answered, You bear witness of yourself; your witness is not true.” Let us see what they hear; let us too hear, but not as they did: they despising, we believing; they wanting to kill Christ, we desiring to live through Christ. Meanwhile let this difference distinguish our ears and minds, and let us hear what the Lord answered the Jews. “Jesus answered and said to them, Even if I bear witness of myself, my witness is true; for I know where I came from and where I am going.” Light shows both other things and itself. You light a lamp, for example, to look for a tunic, and the burning lamp enables you to find the tunic: do you light the lamp to see the burning lamp? A burning lamp is fit both to lay bare other things that were covered by darkness and to show itself to your eyes. So too the Lord Christ distinguished between his faithful and the hostile Jews as between light and darkness: as between those whom he flooded with the ray of faith and those whose closed eyes he flowed around. For this sun too lights up the face both of one who sees and of a blind man: both, standing alike and having their faces toward the sun, are lit up in the flesh, but not both are enlightened in their sight; the one sees, the other does not see; the sun is present to both, but one is absent to the present sun. So too the Wisdom of God, the Word of God, the Lord Jesus Christ, is present everywhere, because truth is everywhere, wisdom is everywhere. One man in the east understands justice; another in the west understands justice: is the justice that one understands different from the justice the other understands? They are separated in body, and they have the gaze of their minds on one thing. The justice that I, placed here, see, if it is justice, a just man sees, separated from me in the flesh by I know not how many stages, and joined in the light of that justice. So the light bears witness to itself: it opens healthy eyes, and is itself its own witness, so that it may be known as light. But what do we do about unbelievers? Is it not present to them? It is present to them too; but they do not have eyes of the heart with which to see it. Hear the sentence pronounced about them from the Gospel itself: “And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.” So the Lord says, and says truly, “Even if I bear witness of myself, my witness is true; for I know where I came from and where I am going.” He wished the Father to be understood; the Son was giving glory to the Father. The equal glorifies him by whom he was sent: how much ought man to glorify him by whom he was created?
John 8:13 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:14 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:5 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Light shows both itself and other things, so Christ's witness to himself is true; he is present everywhere, though unbelievers lack the eyes of the heart to see him.
- John 8:13–14 and John 1:5 are quoted.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (Sic ei Dominus → Sic et Dominus); OCR slip in the digital text (Ulli con → Illi con); OCR slip in the digital text (acics → acies); OCR slip in the digital text (comprehenderunt Ergo → comprehenderunt. Ergo); OCR slip in the digital text (cst → est); OCR slip in the digital text (ct → et); OCR slip in the digital text (dt te → de te); OCR slip in the digital text (eat verum → est verum); OCR slip in the digital text (estet alia → est et alia); OCR slip in the digital text (lucerita ut invenins → lucerna ut invenias); OCR slip in the digital text (prae £tat → præ stat); OCR slip in the digital text (tcnebras → tenebras); OCR slip in the digital text (tesiimonium → testimonium); OCR slip in the digital text (uude → unde)): dt te → de te; eat verum → est verum; Ulli con → Illi con; nostras, ct audiamus → nostras, et audiamus; uude → unde; veni, ct quo → veni, et quo; prae £tat → præ stat; lucerita ut invenins → lucerna ut invenias; estet alia → est et alia; Sic ei Dominus → Sic et Dominus; tcnebras → tenebras; praesens cst, → praesens est,; acics → acies; tesiimonium → testimonium; comprehenderunt Ergo → comprehenderunt. Ergo.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 35.4 (PL 35:1659; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/35-1/#p-35-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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35.5PL 35:1659
Scio unde veni, et quo vado. Iste qui in præsen tia vobis loquitur, habet quod non deseruit, sed tamen venit: non enim veniendo inde discessit, aut redeundo nos dereliquit. Quid miramini? Deus est. Non potest hoc fieri ab homine; non potest hoc fieri ab ipso sole. Quando pergit ad occidentem, deserit orientem, et donec oriturus redeat ad orientem, non est in oriente: Dominus autem noster Jesus Christus et venit, et ibi est; et redit, et hic est. Audi ipsum Evangelistam alio loco dicentem, et si potes, cape; si non potes, crede: Deum, inquit, nemo vidit unquam, nisi uni genitus Filius, qui est in sinu Patris, ipse enarravit. Non dixit, Fuit in sinu Patris, quasi ve niendo deseruerit sinum Patris. Hic loquebatur, et ibi se esse dicebat: qui et hinc discessurus, quid dixit? Ecce ego vobiscum sum usque ad consummatio nem sæculi.
“I know where I came from and where I am going.” He who speaks to you in your presence has what he did not leave, and yet he came: for in coming he did not depart from there, nor in returning did he forsake us. Why do you marvel? He is God. This cannot be done by a man; it cannot be done by the sun itself. When it goes to the west, it leaves the east, and until it returns to rise in the east, it is not in the east. But our Lord Jesus Christ both came and is there, and returns and is here. Hear the evangelist himself saying in another place, and if you can, grasp it; if you cannot, believe: “No one,” he says, “has ever seen God, except the only-begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father; he has declared him.” He did not say, “was in the bosom of the Father,” as though by coming he had left the Father's bosom. He was speaking here and saying that he was there; and when about to depart from here, what did he say? “See, I am with you until the end of the world.”
John 8:14 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 28:20 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ came without leaving the Father and returned without leaving us, as he is God, unlike the sun.
- John 8:14, John 1:18, and Matt 28:20 are quoted.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (ncmo → nemo); OCR slip in the digital text (qni cst iu sinu Patris, ipse enarrant → qui est in sinu Patris, ipse enarravit)): ncmo → nemo; qni cst iu sinu Patris, ipse enarrant → qui est in sinu Patris, ipse enarravit.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 35.5 (PL 35:1659; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/35-1/#p-35-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.
35.6PL 35:1659
Ergo verum est testimonium luminis, sive se ostendat, sive alia; quia sine lumine non potes videre lumen, et sine lumine non potes videre quodlibet aliud quod non est lumen. Si idoneum est lumen ad demon stranda ea quae non sunt lumina, numquid in se de ficit? numquid se non aperit, sine quo alia patere non possunt? Locutus est Propheta verum; sed unde haberet, nisi de fonte veritatis hauriret? Locutus est Joannes verum; sed unde locutus est, ipsum inter roga: Nos omnes, inquit, de plenitudine ejus accepimus. Ergo idoneus est Dominus noster Jesus Christus qui sibi perhibeat testimonium. Sed plane, fratres mei, in nocte hujus sæculi audiamus et prophetiam intente: modo enim ad fragilitatem nostram nocturnasque cordis nostri intimas tenebras humilis voluit venire Dominus noster. Homo venit contemnendus et hono randus, venit negandus et confitendus; contemnendus et negandus a Judaeis, honorandus et confitendus a nobis: judicandus et judicaturus; judicandus injuste, judicaturus juste. Talis ergo venit, ut oporteret ei lucer nam testimonium perhibere. Nam quid opus erat ut Joannes tanquam lucerna perhiberet testimonium dicit si dies ipse ab infirmitate nostra posset videri? Sed non poteramus: infirmus factus est infirmis, per in firmitatem sanavit infirmitatem; per mortalem car nem, carnis abstulit mortem; de corpore suo colly rium fecit luminibus nostris. Quia ergo Dominus venit, et in nocte saeculi adhuc sumus, oportet ut et prophetias audiamus.
So the witness of the light is true, whether it shows itself or other things; for without light you cannot see light, and without light you cannot see anything else that is not light. If light is fit to show the things that are not lights, does it fail in itself? Does it not lay itself open, without which other things cannot be open? The prophet spoke the truth; but where would he have it from, unless he drew it from the fountain of truth? John spoke the truth; but ask him from where he spoke: “We have all,” he says, “received of his fullness.” So our Lord Jesus Christ is fit to bear witness to himself. But clearly, my brothers, in the night of this world let us listen attentively to prophecy too; for our Lord willed to come humbly to our frailty and to the inmost nocturnal darkness of our heart. He came as man, to be despised and honored, to be denied and confessed: despised and denied by the Jews, honored and confessed by us; to be judged and to judge: to be judged unjustly, to judge justly. He came as such, then, that a lamp had to bear witness to him. For what need was there for John, as a lamp, to bear witness to the day, if the day itself could be seen by our weakness? But we could not: he became weak for the weak; through weakness he healed weakness; through mortal flesh he took away the death of the flesh; from his body he made an eye-salve for our eyes. Since, then, the Lord has come, and we are still in the night of the world, we must also listen to the prophecies.
John 1:16 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:35 (echo, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 9:22 (echo, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ is fit to witness to himself, but because he came humbly to our weakness and we are still in the world's night, the lamps of prophecy are needed too.
- John 1:16 is quoted; John 5:35 and 1 Cor 9:22 are echoed. In the digital text dicit after testimonium appears to be a slip for diei (“to the day”); translated by sense.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (Noa omnes → Nos omnes); OCR slip in the digital text (Scd nen → Sed non); OCR slip in the digital text (habcret → haberet); OCR slip in the digital text (infirmitatcm → infirmitatem); OCR slip in the digital text (intenlC → intente); OCR slip in the digital text (lumcn → lumen); OCR slip in the digital text (nou possunt → non possunt); OCR slip in the digital text (pro. phetias → prophetias)): lumcn → lumen; nou possunt → non possunt; habcret → haberet; Noa omnes → Nos omnes; intenlC → intente; Scd nen → Sed non; infirmitatcm → infirmitatem; pro. phetias → prophetias.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 35.6 (PL 35:1659; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/35-1/#p-35-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.
35.7PL 35:1659–1661
Nam de prophetia convincimus contradicentes Pa ganos. Quis est Christus, dicit Paganus? Cui responde mus: Quem prænuntiaverunt Prophetæ. Et ille: Qui Prophetæ? Recitamus Isaiam, Danielem, Jeremiam, alios sanctos Prophetas; dicimus quam longe ante illum venerint, quanto tempore adventum ejus præcesserit. Hoc ergo respondemus: Prævenerunt eum Prophetæ, prædixerunt eum esse venturum. Respondet aliquis eo rum: Qui Prophetæ? Nos recitamus, qui nobis quotidie recitantur. Et ille: Qui sunt hi Prophetae? Nos respon demus: Qui et prædixerunt ea quæ fieri videmus. Et ille: Vos, inquit, vobis ista finxistis, vidistis ea fieri, et quasi ventura prædicta essent, in libris quibus voluistis conscripsistis. Hic contra inimicos Paganos occurrit nobis aliorum testimonium inimicorum. Proferimus codices a Judaeis, et respondemus: Nempe et vos et illi, fidei nostrae estis inimici. Ideo sparsi sunt per gentes, ut alios ex aliis convincamus inimicis. Codex Isaiæ proferatur a Judæis, videamus si non ibi lego, Sicut ovis ad immolandum ductus est, et sicut agnus coram tondente fuit sine voce, sic non aperuit os suum. In humilitate judicium ejus sublatum est; livore ejus sanati sumus: omnes ut oves erravimus, et ipse traditus est pro peccatis nostris. Ecce lucerna una. Alia proferatur, Psalmus aperia tur, etiam inde prædicta passio Christi recitetur. Fo derunt manus meas et pedes meos, dinumeraverunt omnia ossa mea: ipsi vero consideraverunt et con spexerunt me, diviserunt sibi vestimenta mea, et super vestimentum meum miserunt sortem. Apud te laus mea; in Ecclesia magna confitebor tibi. Comme morabuntur et convertentur ad Dominum universi fines terrae: et adorabunt in conspectu ejus universae patriæ gentium; quia Domini est regnum, et ipse do minabitur gentium. Erubescat unus inimicus, quia codicem mihi ministrat alius ini micus. Sed ecce de codicibus prolatis ab uno inimico alterum vici: et ipse qui mihi codicem protulit, non relinquatur; ab illo proferatur, unde et ipse vincatur. Lego alium prophetam, et invenio Dominum loquen tem ad Judæos: Non est mihi voluntas in vobis, dicit Dominus, nec accipiam sacrificium de manibus vestris: quoniam ab ortu solis usque ad occasum, sacrificium mundum offertur nomini meo. Non venis, Judæe, ad sacrificium mundum; convinco te immundum.
For by prophecy we refute the pagans who contradict us. “Who is Christ?” says the pagan. We answer him: the one whom the prophets foretold. And he: “What prophets?” We recite Isaiah, Daniel, Jeremiah, and the other holy prophets; we say how long before him they came, by how long a time they preceded his coming. This, then, is our answer: the prophets went before him; they foretold that he would come. One of them answers, “What prophets?” We recite those who are recited to us daily. And he: “Who are these prophets?” We answer: those who also foretold the things we see happening. And he: “You,” he says, “have made these things up for yourselves; you saw them happen, and you wrote them down in whatever books you wished, as though they had been foretold as things to come.” Here, against our pagan enemies, the witness of other enemies comes to our aid. We bring out the books from the Jews and answer: Surely both you and they are enemies of our faith. That is why they have been scattered among the nations: so that we may refute some enemies by others. Let the book of Isaiah be brought out from the Jews; let us see whether I do not read there, “As a sheep he was led to the slaughter, and as a lamb before its shearer was voiceless, so he did not open his mouth. In humility his judgment was taken away; by his bruise we have been healed. All we like sheep have gone astray, and he was delivered up for our sins.” See one lamp. Let another be brought out; let the Psalm be opened; let the passion of Christ foretold there too be recited: “They pierced my hands and my feet; they numbered all my bones; but they looked and stared at me; they divided my garments among them, and upon my vesture they cast lots. My praise is with you; in the great church I will confess to you. All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the Lord, and all the families of the nations will worship in his sight; for the kingdom is the Lord's, and he will rule over the nations.” Let the one enemy blush, because another enemy supplies me with the book. But see, by books brought out by one enemy I have defeated the other; and let not the one who brought me the book be left alone: let something be brought out by him by which he too may be defeated. I read another prophet, and I find the Lord speaking to the Jews: “I have no pleasure in you, says the Lord, nor will I accept sacrifice from your hands; for from the rising of the sun to its setting a pure sacrifice is offered to my name.” You do not come, O Jew, to the pure sacrifice; I convict you of being impure.
Isa 53:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 53:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 53:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 53:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:16 (21:17 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:17 (21:18 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:18 (21:19 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:25 (21:26 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:27 (21:28 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:28 (21:29 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Mal 1:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Mal 1:11 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christians answer pagans from the prophets, using the Jews' own books, which foretold the passion and the pure sacrifice offered among the nations.
- Isa 53:7–8, 5–6 (cited freely), Ps 22:16–18, 22:25, 22:27–28 (21:17–19, 26, 28–29 LXX), and Mal 1:10–11 are quoted. The digital text's stray angle brackets around the quotations are removed. Augustine's argument that the Jews were scattered as witnesses and his closing address to “the Jew” are translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (Codex; → Codex); OCR slip in the digital text (Donrinul, nee → Dominus, nec); OCR slip in the digital text (III humilitate → In humilitate); OCR slip in the digital text (Profcrimus → Proferimus); OCR slip in the digital text (RespondeL → Respondet); OCR slip in the digital text (aliossanctos → alios sanctos); OCR slip in the digital text (cjus → ejus); OCR slip in the digital text (contradicentesPa ganos → contradicentes Pa ganos); OCR slip in the digital text (crravimus, et ipso → erravimus, et ipse); OCR slip in the digital text (cst → est); OCR slip in the digital text (ct → et); OCR slip in the digital text (cx aliis → ex aliis); OCR slip in the digital text (dicimusquam → dicimus quam); OCR slip in the digital text (gehtium >. → gentium.); OCR slip in the digital text (iIic → Hic); OCR slip in the digital text (lego, < Sicut → lego, Sicut); OCR slip in the digital text (libi → tibi); OCR slip in the digital text (loquen tcm → loquen tem); OCR slip in the digital text (mandum → mundum); OCR slip in the digital text (menm → meum); OCR slip in the digital text (patrine → patriæ); OCR slip in the digital text (recitetur. < Fo derunt → recitetur. Fo derunt)): contradicentesPa ganos → contradicentes Pa ganos; Quis cst Christus, → Quis est Christus,; aliossanctos → alios sanctos; dicimusquam → dicimus quam; RespondeL → Respondet; iIic → Hic; Profcrimus → Proferimus; Judaeis, ct respondemus: → Judaeis, et respondemus:; cx aliis → ex aliis; Codex; → Codex; lego, < Sicut → lego, Sicut; III humilitate → In humilitate; cjus → ejus; crravimus, et ipso → erravimus, et ipse; recitetur. < Fo derunt → recitetur. Fo derunt; menm → meum; libi → tibi; patrine → patriæ; gehtium >. → gentium.; loquen tcm → loquen tem; Donrinul, nee → Dominus, nec; mandum → mundum.
Topics: Scripture and canon, Eucharist
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 35.7 (PL 35:1659–1661; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/35-1/#p-35-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.
35.8PL 35:1661
Ecce et lucernae perhibent testimonium diei propter infirmitatem nostram, quia diei claritatem tolerare et videre non possumus. Nam et nos ipsi Christiani in comparatione quidem infidelium lux jam sumus; unde dicit Apostolus, Fuistis enim aliquando tenebræ; nunc autem lux in Domino, sicut filii lucis ambulate: et alibi dixit, Nox præcessit, dies autem appropinquavit: abjiciamus ergo opera tene brarum, et induamus nos arma lucis; sicut in die honeste ambulemus. Tamen quia in com paratione illius lucis ad quam venturi sumus, adhuc nox est etiam dies in quo sumus, audi Petrum aposto lum: delatam dicit Domino Christo vocem de magni fica potestate, Tu es Filius meus dilectus, in quo bene sensi. Hanc vocem, inquit, nos de cœlo audivimus dela tam, cum essemus cum illo in monte sancto. Sed quia nos non ibi fuimus, et istam vocem de coelo tunc non audivimus; ait ad nos ipse Petrus, Et habemus cer tiorem propheticum sermonem. Non audistis vocem de cœlo delatam, sed certiorem habetis propheticum ser monem. Prævidens enim Dominus Jesus Christus impios quosdam futuros, qui miraculis ejus calumniarentur, magicis artibus ea tribuendo, Prophetas ante præmisit. Numquid enim, si magus erat et magicis artibus fecit ut coleretur et mortuus, magus erat antequam natus? Prophetas audi, o homo mortue, et vermescendo calumniose, Prophetas audi: lego, audi qui ante Dominum venerunt. Habemus, inquit apo stolus Petrus, certiorem propheticum sermonem, cui bene facitis attendentes, sicut lucerna in obscuro loco, donec dies lucescat, et lucifer oriatur in cordibus vestris.
See, the lamps too bear witness to the day because of our weakness, because we cannot endure and see the brightness of the day. For we Christians ourselves, in comparison with unbelievers, are already light; hence the apostle says, “For you were once darkness, but now light in the Lord; walk as sons of light”; and elsewhere he said, “The night is far gone, but the day has drawn near; let us therefore cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light; let us walk honestly as in the day.” Yet because, in comparison with that light to which we shall come, even the day in which we are is still night, hear the apostle Peter. He says that a voice was borne to the Lord Christ from the magnificent glory: “You are my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. This voice,” he says, “we heard borne from heaven, when we were with him on the holy mountain.” But because we were not there and did not then hear that voice from heaven, Peter himself says to us, “And we have the more sure prophetic word.” You did not hear the voice borne from heaven, but you have the more sure prophetic word. For the Lord Jesus Christ, foreseeing that there would be certain ungodly men who would slander his miracles by attributing them to magic arts, sent the prophets ahead. For if he was a magician and by magic arts brought it about that he was worshiped even when dead, was he a magician before he was born? Hear the prophets, O dead man, breeding worms by your slander, hear the prophets: I read, hear those who came before the Lord. “We have,” says the apostle Peter, “the more sure prophetic word, to which you do well to attend, as to a lamp in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.”
Eph 5:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 13:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 13:13 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Pet 1:17 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Pet 1:18 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Pet 1:19 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Even Christians' day is night compared with the light to come, so we need the sure word of prophecy, which also refutes those who call Christ a magician.
- Eph 5:8, Rom 13:12–13, and 2 Pet 1:17–19 are quoted. The digital text's garbled “- crmescendo” is corrected to vermescendo (“breeding worms”), as the sense requires.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (Tamcn → Tamen); OCR slip in the digital text (aquit apo tolus → inquit apo stolus); OCR slip in the digital text (ccelo → cœlo); OCR slip in the digital text (eppropinquavit → appropinquavit); OCR slip in the digital text (et - crmescendo → et vermescendo); OCR slip in the digital text (illius!ocis → illius lucis); OCR slip in the digital text (magni lira → magni fica); OCR slip in the digital text (nit ad nos → ait ad nos); OCR slip in the digital text (nou ibi → non ibi)): eppropinquavit → appropinquavit; Tamcn → Tamen; illius!ocis → illius lucis; magni lira → magni fica; ccelo → cœlo; nou ibi → non ibi; nit ad nos → ait ad nos; et - crmescendo → et vermescendo; aquit apo tolus → inquit apo stolus.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 35.8 (PL 35:1661; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/35-1/#p-35-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.
35.9PL 35:1661
Quando ergo Dominus noster Jesus Christus venerit, et, sicut dicit etiam apostolus Paulus, illumi naverit occulta tenebrarum, et manifestaverit cogita tiones cordis, ut laus sit unicuique a Deo; tunc præsente tali die lucernæ non erunt necessariæ: non legetur nobis Propheta, non aperietur codex Apo stoli, non requiremus testimonium Joannis, non ipso indigebimus Evangelio. Ergo omnes Scripturæ tol lentur de medio, quæ nobis in hujus sæculi nocte tanquam lucernae accendebantur, ne in tenebris re maneremus: istis omnibus sublatis, ne quasi nobis luceant indigentibus, et ipsis hominibus Dei, per quos haec ministrata sunt, nobiscum lumen illud verum clarumque videntibus, remotis ergo his adjumentis quid videbimus? unde pascetur mens nostra? unde obtutus ille lætabitur? unde erit illud gaudium quod nec oculus vidit, nec auris audivit, nec in cor hominis ascendit? quid videbimus? Obsecro vos, ama te mecum, currite credendo mecum: patriam supernam desideremus, supernae patriæ suspiremus, peregrinos nos esse hic sentiamus. Quid tunc videbimus? Dicat nunc Evangelium: In principio erat Verbum, et Ver bum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat Verbum. Unde tibi ros inspersus est, ad fontem venies: unde radius per obliqua et per anfractuosa tibi ad cor tene brosum missus est, nudam ipsam lucem videbis, cui videndae ferendaeque mundaris. Dilectissimi, quod et hesterno commemoravi, Joannes ipse dicit, filii Dei sumus, et nondum apparuit quid erimus: scimus quia cum apparuerit, similes ei erimus, quoniam videbimus eum sicuti est. Sentio vestros affectus attolli mecum in superna: sed corpus quod corrum pitur, aggravat animam; et deprimit terrena inhabi tatio sensum multa cogitantem. Deposi turus sum et ego codicem istum, discessuri estis et vos quisque ad sua. Bene nobis fuit in luce communi, bene gavisi sumus, bene exsultavimus: sed cum ab invicem recedimus, ab illo non recedamus.
When, then, our Lord Jesus Christ comes, and, as the apostle Paul also says, “brings to light the hidden things of darkness and makes manifest the thoughts of the heart, so that each may have praise from God,” then, with such a day present, lamps will not be needed: the prophet will not be read to us, the book of the apostle will not be opened, we shall not require the witness of John, we shall not need the Gospel itself. So all the Scriptures will be taken out of the way, which were lit for us like lamps in the night of this world, so that we might not remain in darkness. When all these have been taken away, so that they no longer shine for us as if we needed them, and the men of God themselves, through whom these were ministered, see with us that true and clear light, when these helps have been removed, then, what shall we see? From what will our mind be fed? From what will that gaze rejoice? From where will that joy come which “eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor has it ascended into the heart of man”? What shall we see? I beg you, love with me, run with me by believing; let us desire the homeland above, let us sigh for the homeland above, let us feel that we are sojourners here. What shall we see then? Let the Gospel say now: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” You will come to the fountain from which dew was sprinkled on you; you will see the light itself bare, from which a ray was sent to you by slanting and winding ways into your dark heart, the light for seeing and bearing which you are being cleansed. “Beloved,” as I mentioned yesterday too, John himself says, “we are sons of God, and it has not yet appeared what we shall be; we know that when he appears, we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is.” I feel your affections being lifted up with me to things above; but “the body which is corrupted weighs down the soul, and the earthly dwelling presses down the mind that thinks many things.” I too am about to put down this book, and you are all about to leave, each to his own affairs. It has been good for us in the common light; we have rejoiced well, we have exulted well; but when we part from one another, let us not depart from him.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
1 Cor 4:5 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:9 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 John 3:2 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: When Christ comes, Scripture's lamps will no longer be needed; we shall see the Word himself, the light from which every ray now reaches us.
- 1 Cor 4:5, 1 Cor 2:9, John 1:1, and 1 John 3:2 are quoted. The sentence “the body which is corrupted weighs down the soul” is Wis 9:15, outside the 66 books.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (Deposi torus → Deposi turus); OCR slip in the digital text (Obsecrovos → Obsecro vos); OCR slip in the digital text (aperictur → aperietur); OCR slip in the digital text (dcsideremns → desideremus); OCR slip in the digital text (ilium! naverit → illumi naverit); OCR slip in the digital text (mecum:: → mecum:); OCR slip in the digital text (nee auris → nec auris); OCR slip in the digital text (omnibos → omnibus); OCR slip in the digital text (qnos → quos); OCR slip in the digital text (ros iuspersus cst → ros inspersus est); OCR slip in the digital text (videbimus! uude → videbimus? unde)): ilium! naverit → illumi naverit; aperictur → aperietur; omnibos → omnibus; qnos → quos; videbimus! uude → videbimus? unde; nee auris → nec auris; Obsecrovos → Obsecro vos; mecum:: → mecum:; dcsideremns → desideremus; ros iuspersus cst → ros inspersus est; Deposi torus → Deposi turus.
Extrabiblical texts: Wis 9:15 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Topics: Eschatology, Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 35.9 (PL 35:1661; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/35-1/#p-35-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.