Tractates on the Gospel of John 97.1–98.8
Latin text: Migne, PL 35 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 7 (1888).
Chapter 97
97.1PL 35:1877
Spiritus sanctus quem promisit Dominus se disci pulis suis esse missurum, qui eos doceret omnem ve ritatem, quam tunc quando cum eis loquebatur, por tare non poterant: de quo Spiritu sancto, sicut dicit Apostolus, nunc pignus accepimus, quo verbo intelligeremus ejus plenitudinem nobis in vita alia reservari: ipse ergo Spiritus sanctus et nunc docet fideles, quanta quisque potest capere spiritua lia; et eorum pectora desiderio majore succendit, si quisque in ea charitate proficiat, qua et diligat cognita, et cognoscenda desideret: ita ut ea quoque ipsa quæ nunc quomodocumque cognoscit, nondum se scire sciat, sicut scienda sunt in ea vita quam nec oculus vidit, nec auris audivit, nec in cor hominis ascendit. Quo sciendi modo, si nunc ea vellet interior magister dicere, id est, nostræ menti aperire atque monstrare; humana infirmitas portare non posset. Unde me vestra Dilectio meminit jam locutum, cum sancti Evangelii verba tractaremus, ubi Dominus ait, Adhuc multa habeo vobis dicere, sed non potestis portare modo. Non ut in his Domini verbis nescio quae secreta nimis abdita suspicemur, quae cum dici a docente possint, portari a discente non possint: sed ea ipsa quae in doctrina religionis in quorumlibet hominum notitia legimus et scribimus, audimus et dicimus, si vellet eo modo nobis Christus dicere, sicut ea dicit Angelis sanctis in seipso unigenito Patris Verbo, Patrique coæterno; quinam portare homines possent, etiam si jam essent spirituales, quales adhuc Apostoli non fuerunt, quando ista eis Dominus loquebatur, qualesque postea ve niente sancto Spiritu facti sunt? Nam utique quidquid de creatura sciri potest, minus est ipso Creatore, qui summus et verus et immutabilis est Deus. Et quis eum tacet? Ubi non a legentibus, disputantibus, quærentibus, respondentibus, laudantibus, cantan tibus, quoquomodo sermocinantibus, postremo ab ipsis etiam blasphemantibus nominatur? Et cum eum nemo taceat, quis est qui eum sicut intelligendus est capiat, cum de oribus et auribus hominum non rece dat? Quis est cujus acies ad eum mentis accedat? Quis est qui eum Trinitatem esse scisset, nisi ipse se innotescere voluisset? Et quis hominum jam istam sileat Trinitatem: et tamen quis hominum sicut Angelus sapiat Trinitatem? Ea ipsa ergo quæ de Dei æternitate, veritate, sanctitate, in promptu et palam sine cessatione dicuntur, ab aliis bene, ab aliis male intelliguntur: imo ab aliis intelliguntur, ab aliis non intelliguntur. Qui enim male intelligit, non intelligit. Ab eis ipsis autem a quibus bene intelligun tur, ab aliis minus, ab aliis amplius mentis vivaci tate cernuntur, et a nullo hominum sicut ab Angelis capiuntur. In ipsa ergo mente, hoc est in interiore homine, quodammodo crescitur, non solum ut ad cibum a lacte transeatur, verum etiam ut amplius atque amplius cibus ipse sumatur. Non autem cresci tur spatiosa mole, sed intelligentia luminosa; quia et ipse cibus intelligibilis lux est. Ut ergo crescatis, eum que capiatis, et quanto magis crescitis, tanto magis magisque capiatis; non ab eo doctore qui vestris auri bus sonat, hoc est, forinsecus operando plantat et rigat, sed ab eo qui dat incrementum, petere ac sperare debetis.
The Holy Spirit, whom the Lord promised to send to his disciples to teach them all truth, which they could not bear when he was speaking with them; the Holy Spirit of whom, as the Apostle says, we have now received the pledge, a word by which we might understand that his fullness is reserved for us in another life: this same Holy Spirit, then, teaches the faithful spiritual things even now, as much as each can take in; and he kindles their hearts with greater desire, if each makes progress in that love by which he both loves what is known and desires what is to be known; so that even the things he now knows in any way he knows he does not yet know as they are to be known in that life which "eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor has it entered into the heart of man." If the inner master wished to say these things now in that manner of knowing, that is, to open and show them to our mind, human weakness could not bear it. Your Love remembers that I have already spoken of this when we were treating the words of the holy Gospel where the Lord says, "I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now." Not that we should suspect in these words of the Lord some secrets too deeply hidden, which could be said by the teacher but could not be borne by the learner; but the very things of religious teaching which we read and write, hear and speak, within anyone's knowledge: if Christ wished to say these to us in the way he says them to the holy angels in himself, the only-begotten Word of the Father, coeternal with the Father, what men could bear them, even if they were already spiritual, as the apostles were not yet when the Lord spoke these words to them, and as they afterward became when the Holy Spirit came? For certainly whatever can be known about the creature is less than the Creator himself, who is the highest and true and unchangeable God. And who is silent about him? Where is he not named by those who read, dispute, seek, answer, praise, sing, or speak in any way, and finally even by those who blaspheme? And though no one is silent about him, who is there that grasps him as he is to be understood, though he never departs from the mouths and ears of men? Who is there whose mind's eye reaches him? Who would have known that he is a Trinity, unless he himself had wished to make himself known? And which of men now keeps silent about this Trinity? And yet which of men understands the Trinity as an angel does? So the very things that are said constantly, openly, and readily about God's eternity, truth, and holiness are understood by some well, by others badly; indeed, understood by some and not understood by others. For whoever understands badly does not understand. And by those by whom they are understood well, they are discerned by some less, by others more, with liveliness of mind; and by no human being are they grasped as by the angels. So in the mind itself, that is, in the inner man, there is a kind of growth, not only so that one passes from milk to solid food, but also so that one takes more and more of the food itself. But one does not grow in spatial bulk but in luminous understanding, because the food itself is intelligible light. So that you may grow, then, and take him in, and the more you grow, the more and more take him in, you ought to ask and hope, not from the teacher who sounds in your ears, that is, who plants and waters by working from outside, but from him who gives the increase.
John 16:13 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 1:22 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:9 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:12 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 3:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Heb 5:12 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 3:6 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 3:7 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The things the disciples could not bear are the common truths of faith as angels know them; the Spirit makes the mind grow in understanding of them, by God's gift.
- John 16:12 and 1 Cor 2:9 are quoted; John 16:13, 2 Cor 1:22, 1 Cor 3:2, Heb 5:12–14, and 1 Cor 3:6–7 are in view.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): Loquebatur → loquebatur; Spiritus sanctos et nunc → Spiritus sanctus et nunc; corum pectora → eorum pectora; quoe nunc → quæ nunc; inca vita quam nee → in ea vita quam nec; nostre menti → nostræ menti; rcligionis → religionis; hommum → hominum; nicnte → niente; summus ei verus → summus et verus; Et quit eam tacet → Et quis eum tacet; ctiam blasphemantibus nominator → etiam blasphemantibus nominatur; cum Trinitatem esse scisset, nisi ipse sit innotescere voluisset → eum Trinitatem esse scisset, nisi ipse se innotescere voluisset; quis bominum siccat Angeli sapiat → quis hominum sicut Angelus sapiat; do Dei æternitate. veritate → de Dei æternitate, veritate; Ab cis ipsis → Ab eis ipsis.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 97.1 (PL 35:1877; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/97-1/#p-97-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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97.2PL 35:1877
Proinde, sicut praeterito sermone commonui, cavete, maxime qui parvuli estis et adhuc alimentis lacteis indigetis, ne hominibus sub hac occasione deceptis ac deceptoribus, quia Dominus ait, Adhuc multa habeo vobis dicere, sed non potestis portare modo, au rem curiosam praebeatis ad incognita scienda, cum mentes invalidas habeatis ad vera et falsa dijudicanda: maxime propter obscœnissimas turpitudines, quas docuit satanas animas instabiles atque carnales, ad hoc Deo sinente, ut ejus ubique sint tremenda judi cia, et in comparatione impurae nequitiæ dulcescat purissima disciplina; atque ut illi det honorem, timo rem autem vel pudorem sibi, qui in illa mala vel illo regente non cecidit, vel illo inde levante surrexit. Cavete timendo et orando, ne irruatis in illud ænigma Salomonis, ubi mulier insipiens et audax, inops panis effecta, convocat praetereuntes dicens, Panes occultos libenter attingite, et aquæ furtivæ dulcedinem. Hæcenim mulier vanitas est impiorum, cum sint insipientissimi, aliquid se scire opinantium, sicut de ista muliere dictum est, inops panis effecta. Quae cum sit inops panis, promittit panes; id est, cum sit ignara veritatis, promittit scientiam veritatis. Oc cultos tamen panes promittit, quos dicit libenter at tingi, et aquæ furtivæ dulcedinem; ut ea scilicet li bentius et dulcius audiantur et agantur, quae palam in Ecclesia dici credique prohibentur. Ipsa quippe occul tatione condiunt quodammodo nefarii doctores sua ve nena curiosis; ut ideo se existiment aliquid discere magnum, quia meruit habere secretum, et suavius hauriant insipientiam, quam putant scientiam, cujus prohibitam quodammodo furantur audientiam.
So, as I warned in the previous sermon, beware, especially you who are little ones and still need the nourishment of milk, lest, because the Lord said, "I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now," you lend a curious ear, on this pretext, to men deceived and deceiving, so as to learn things unknown, when your minds are too weak to judge between true and false. Beware especially because of the most obscene foulnesses which Satan has taught to unstable and carnal souls, God permitting it to this end: that his judgments may everywhere be feared, and that by comparison with impure wickedness the purest discipline may grow sweet; and that he may give honor to God, and fear or shame to himself, who either did not fall into those evils because God ruled him, or rose from them because God lifted him up. Beware, fearing and praying, lest you rush into that riddle of Solomon, where the foolish and bold woman, who has become destitute of bread, calls to those passing by, saying, "Gladly touch hidden bread, and the sweetness of stolen water." For this woman is the vanity of the ungodly who, though most foolish, think they know something, as it was said of this woman, "who has become destitute of bread." Though she is destitute of bread, she promises bread; that is, though she is ignorant of the truth, she promises knowledge of the truth. Yet she promises hidden bread, which she says is gladly touched, and the sweetness of stolen water; so that, namely, things which are forbidden to be said and believed openly in the church may be heard and done the more gladly and sweetly. For by the very concealment the wicked teachers in a way season their poisons for the curious, so that these think they are learning something great because it deserved to be kept secret, and drink in folly, which they take for knowledge, the more sweetly because they steal, as it were, a forbidden hearing of it.
John 16:12 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 3:2 (allusion, medium confidence) · Prov 9:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Prov 9:17 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The foolish woman of Proverbs, offering hidden bread and stolen water, is the heretics' false promise of secret knowledge.
- Prov 9:13–17 is quoted in an Old Latin form following the LXX ("destitute of bread"); John 16:12 and 1 Cor 3:2 are in view.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): sicnt → sicut; de. ceptis → deceptis; non cccidit → non cecidit; impiorum v cum sint insipicntissimi → impiorum, cum sint insipientissimi; cumsit, ignara → cum sit ignara; ut ca scilicet Ii → ut ea scilicet li; audiantur ct agantur → audiantur et agantur.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 97.2 (PL 35:1877; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/97-1/#p-97-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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97.3PL 35:1877–1879
Hinc et nefarios ritus suos hominibus sacrilega curiositate deceptis vel decipiendis magicarum artium doctrina commendat. Hinc illæ illicitae divinationes inspectis pecudum visceribus occisorum, aut vocibus et volatibus avium, aut signis multiformibus dæmonum, insusurrantur auribus hominum periturorum per colloquia perditorum. Propter hæc illicita atque punienda secreta, mulier illa non solum insipiens, ve rum audax etiam nuncupatur. Sed hæc non solum a re ipsa, verum et a nomine nostrae religionis aliena sunt. Quid quod mulier hæc Insipiens et audax, sub christiano vocabulo tot scelestas hæreses condidit, tot nefandas fabulas finxit? Utinam talus quales in theatris sive cantantur, sive saltantur, sive mimica scurrilitate ridentur; et non quasdam tales, quales adversus Deum fingere potuisse sic illam doleamus insipientiam, ut miremur audaciam. Omnes autem insipientissimi hæretici, qui se christianos vocari vo lunt, audacias figmentorum suorum, quas maxime exhorret sensus humanus, occasione evangelicae sen tentiæ colorare conantur, ubi Dominus ait, Adhuc multa habeo vobis dicere, sed non potestis portare modo: quasi hæc ipsa sint quæ tunc discipuli portare non po terant, et ea docuerit Spiritus sanctus, quæ palam docere atque praedicare, quantalibet feratur audacia, spiritus erubescit immundus.
Hence too the teaching of the magic arts commends its wicked rites to men deceived, or to be deceived, by sacrilegious curiosity. Hence those unlawful divinations, by inspecting the entrails of slaughtered beasts, or by the voices and flights of birds, or by the manifold signs of demons, are whispered into the ears of men who are to perish, through the talk of those already lost. Because of these unlawful and punishable secrets, that woman is called not only foolish but also bold. But these things are foreign not only to the substance but even to the name of our religion. What of the fact that this foolish and bold woman, under the Christian name, has founded so many wicked heresies and invented so many abominable fables? Would that they were only such fables as are sung, or danced, or laughed at with mimic buffoonery in the theaters, and not some of such a kind that we lament the folly that could invent them against God in such a way as to marvel at its boldness. But all the most foolish heretics who wish to be called Christians try to color the audacities of their inventions, which human sense most abhors, with the pretext of the Gospel saying where the Lord says, "I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now"; as if these were the very things the disciples could not bear then, and as if the Holy Spirit had taught things which even the unclean spirit, however great his boldness, blushes to teach and proclaim openly.
John 16:12 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Magic, divination, and the fables of heretics come from the same foolish boldness; heretics wrongly claim their inventions are what the disciples could not bear.
- John 16:12 is quoted. The heretics are not named; translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): viscenbus → visceribus; dæmunum → dæmonum; pcriturorum → periturorum; iHieila atquo → illicita atque; lum audax etiam nuucupatur → rum audax etiam nuncupatur; noa solam a re ipsa → non solum a re ipsa; ncfandas → nefandas; mircmur andaciam → miremur audaciam; iuut → lunt; nun po → non po; crubescit → erubescit.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 97.3 (PL 35:1877–1879; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/97-1/#p-97-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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97.4PL 35:1879
Hos Apostolus in Spiritu sancto praevidens ait: « Erit enim tempus quo sanam doctrinam non sustinebunt, sed secundum desideria sua magistros sibi coacervabunt prurientes auditu: et a veritate quidem auditum suum avertent, ad fabulas autem converten tur ». Illa enim secreti furtique com memoratio qua dicitur, Panes occultos libenter attingite, et aquæ furtivæ dulcedinem, pruritum facit audientibus in auribus spiritualiter fornicantibus, sicut pruritu quodam libidinis etiam in carne corrumpitur integritas castitatis. Audite itaque Apostolum talia præviden tem, et ea vitanda salubriter admonentem: Pro fanas, inquit, verborum novitates evita: multum enim proficiunt ad impietatem, et sermo eorum sicut cancer serpit. Et non ait, verborum novita tes; sed addidit, profanas. Sunt enim et doctrinæ religionis congruentes verborum novitates, sicut ipsum nomen Christianorum quando dici cœperit, scriptum est. In Antiochia enim primum post ascensionem Do mini appellati sunt discipuli Christiani, sicut legitur in Actibus Apostolorum: et xenodochia et monasteria postea sunt appellata novis nominibus, res tamen ipsae et ante nomina sua erant, et religionis veritate firmantur, qua etiam contra improbos defen duntur. Adversus impietatem quoque Arianorum hae reticorum novum nomen Patris Homousion condide runt: sed non rem novam tali nomine signaverunt; hoc enim vocatur Homousion, quod est, Ego et Pater unum sumus, unius videlicet ejusdemque substantiae. Nam si omnis novitas profana esset, nec a Domino diceretur, Mandatum novum do vobis; nec Testamentum appellaretur Novum, nec cantaretur in universa terra Canticum novum. Sed profanae sunt verborum novitates, ubi dicit mulier in sipiens et audax: Panes occultos libenter attingite, et aquæ furtivæ dulcedinem. Ab hac pollicitatione falsae scientiæ prohibet etiam illo loco Apostolus ubi dicit: « O Timothee, depositum custodi, devitans profanas vocum novitates, et contradictiones falsi nominis scien tiae, quam quidam promittentes, circa fidem excide runt >. Nihil enim sic amant isti quam scientiam promittere; et fidem rerum verarum quas cre dere parvuli praecipiuntur, velut imperitiam deridere.
The Apostle, foreseeing these men in the Holy Spirit, says: "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires they will heap up teachers for themselves, having itching ears; and they will turn away their hearing from the truth and turn aside to fables." For that mention of secrecy and theft, where it is said, "Gladly touch hidden bread, and the sweetness of stolen water," produces an itch in hearers whose ears commit spiritual fornication, just as in the flesh too the integrity of chastity is corrupted by a certain itch of lust. So hear the Apostle, foreseeing such things and wholesomely warning that they be avoided: "Avoid profane novelties of words; for they advance much toward ungodliness, and their talk spreads like a cancer." And he did not say only "novelties of words," but added "profane." For there are novelties of words suited to the teaching of religion, as it is written of when the very name of Christians began to be used. For it was in Antioch, after the Lord's ascension, that the disciples were first called Christians, as one reads in the Acts of the Apostles; and hospices for strangers and monasteries were afterward called by new names; yet the things themselves existed before their names, and they are confirmed by the truth of religion, by which they are also defended against the wicked. Against the ungodliness of the Arian heretics, too, they coined a new term, homoousion with the Father; but they did not mark a new thing by such a name; for what is called homoousion is this: "I and the Father are one," namely, of one and the same substance. For if every novelty were profane, the Lord would not have said, "A new commandment I give you," nor would the Testament be called New, nor would a new song be sung in all the earth. But those novelties of words are profane where the foolish and bold woman says, "Gladly touch hidden bread, and the sweetness of stolen water." From this promise of false knowledge the Apostle also forbids us in the place where he says: "O Timothy, guard the deposit, avoiding profane novelties of words and the contradictions of knowledge falsely so called, which some have professed and so have fallen away concerning the faith." For these people love nothing so much as to promise knowledge, and to deride as ignorance the faith in true things which little ones are commanded to believe.
2 Tim 4:3 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 4:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Prov 9:17 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 2:16 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 2:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 11:26 (allusion, high confidence) · John 10:30 (quotation, high confidence) · John 13:34 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 96:1 (95:1 LXX) (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Tim 6:20 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 6:21 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Only profane novelties of words are condemned; new terms such as "Christian" and homoousion express old truths, unlike the heretics' promise of secret knowledge.
- 2 Tim 4:3–4, Prov 9:17, 2 Tim 2:16–17, John 10:30, John 13:34, and 1 Tim 6:20–21 are quoted; Acts 11:26 and Ps 96:1 are in view. "Homoousion with the Father" renders Patris homousion, the term of the Council of Nicaea; the subject of "coined" is not named. Translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (broken word); OCR slip (joined words); OCR slip (quotation mark)): susti • nebunt → sustinebunt; desidcria → desideria; tur,. Ilia → tur ». Illa; furtiquc → furtique; quadicilur → qua dicitur; pruriiu quodam libidinis eliam → pruritu quodam libidinis etiam; scrpit → serpit; Sunt euim eldoctrinae re. ligionis eongruentes → Sunt enim et doctrinæ religionis congruentes; Christianerum → Christianorum; III Antiochia enim primum pest → In Antiochia enim primum post; nominasua → nomina sua; xerilate → veritate; voeatur Hemousion → vocatur Homousion; Mandutum → Mandatum; nec Cantaretur → nec cantaretur; ctiam illo loco → etiam illo loco; ( O Timothee → « O Timothee; eteontradictiones → et contradictiones; ct fidcm → et fidem; novam nomen Patris → novum nomen Patris.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 97.4 (PL 35:1879; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/97-1/#p-97-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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97.5PL 35:1879
Dicet aliquis: Nihilne spirituales viri habent in doctrina, quod carnalibus taceant, et spiritualibus eloquantur? Si respondero, Non habent, continuo mihi dicetur ex Epistola ad Corinthios apostoli Pauli: « Non potui vobis loqui quasi spiritualibus, sed quasi carnalibus. Quasi parvulis in Christo lac vobis potum dedi, non escam; nondum enim poteratis: sed nec ad huc quidem potestis; adhuc enim estis carnales; et illud, « Sapientiam loquimur inter per fectos; > et illud, c Spiritualibus spiritualia comparaa tes: animalis autem homo non percipit quæ sunt Spi ritus Dei; stultitia enim est illi ». Hoc totum quale sit, ne rursus propter haec verba Apostoli profanis vocum novitatibus secreta quaerantur, et ea quae debet castorum spiritus corpusque vitare, dicatur carnales sustinere non posse, sermone alio si Domi nus donaverit, disputandum est, ut jam istum ali quando claudamus.
Someone will say: Have spiritual men nothing in their teaching which they keep silent from the carnal and speak openly to the spiritual? If I answer, They have not, it will at once be said to me from the apostle Paul's Epistle to the Corinthians: "I could not speak to you as to spiritual people, but as to carnal. As to little ones in Christ I gave you milk to drink, not solid food; for you were not yet able; and even now you are not able, for you are still carnal"; and that saying, "We speak wisdom among the perfect"; and that, "Comparing spiritual things with spiritual; but the natural man does not perceive the things of the Spirit of God; for they are folly to him." What all this means must be discussed in another sermon, if the Lord grants, so that we may at last close this one; lest again, because of these words of the Apostle, secrets be sought in profane novelties of words, and it be said that the carnal cannot bear things which the spirit and body of the chaste ought to avoid.
1 Cor 3:1 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 3:2 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:13 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:14 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine raises the question whether spiritual teachers keep anything from the carnal, citing 1 Corinthians, and defers it.
- 1 Cor 3:1–2, 2:6, and 2:13–14 are quoted.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): Dieet aliquis: Nihilne spirkuales → Dicet aliquis: Nihilne spirituales; qu*od → quod; cloquantur → eloquantur; cootinuo → continuo; lac vobis polum dedi → lac vobis potum dedi; et illud., c Sapientiam → et illud, « Sapientiam; aulem homo → autem homo; vilare → vitare; est,. ut → est, ut; quondo → quando.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 97.5 (PL 35:1879; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/97-1/#p-97-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 98
98.1PL 35:1879
Ex verbis Domini nostri, ubi dicit, Adhuc multa habeo vobis dicere, sed non potestis portare modo, exortam difficilem quaestionem me recolo distulisse, ut inde otiosius tractaretur, quia illum modus com petens compellebat finire sermonem. Nunc ergo quo niam tempus est promissa reddendi, pertractetur ut Dominus ipse donaverit, qui cordi nostro ut propone retur ingessit. Hæc est autem quaestio: utrum spiri tuales homines habeant aliquid in doctrina, quod car nalibus taceant, et spiritualibus dicant. Quia si dixe rimus, Non habent; respondebitur nobis, Quid est ergo quod dicebat Apostolus scribens ad Corinthios: « Non potui vobis loqui quasi spiritualibus, sed quasi carnalibus. Quasi parvulis in Christo lac vobis potum dedi, non escam; nondum enim poteratis: sed nec adhuc quidem potestis; adhuc enim estis carnales »? Si autem dixerimus, Habent; ti mendum et cavendum est, ne sub hac occasione in oc cultis nefaria doceantur, et spiritualium nomine, velut ea quae carnales capere non possunt, non solum excusatione dealbanda, verum etiam praedicatione laudanda videantur.
I recall that I put off the difficult question arising from the words of our Lord where he says, "I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now," so that it might be treated more at leisure, because the proper limit compelled me to end that sermon. Now therefore, since it is time to pay what was promised, let it be treated as the Lord himself grants, who brought it into our heart to be set before you. And this is the question: whether spiritual men have anything in their teaching which they keep silent from the carnal and tell to the spiritual. For if we say, "They have not," we shall be answered: What then did the Apostle mean when he wrote to the Corinthians, "I could not speak to you as to spiritual people, but as to carnal. As to little ones in Christ I gave you milk to drink, not solid food; for you were not yet able; and even now you are not able, for you are still carnal"? But if we say, "They have," we must fear and beware lest under this pretext wicked things be taught in secret, and, under the name of spiritual things, as though they were things the carnal cannot take in, they seem not only to be whitewashed by excuse but even to deserve praise in preaching.
John 16:12 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 3:1 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 3:2 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine takes up the question whether spiritual teachers have doctrines they keep from the carnal.
- John 16:12 and 1 Cor 3:1–2 are quoted.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (joined words)): oliosius → otiosius; donavcril → donaverit; Hacc est → Hæc est; taceant, ct spiritualibus → taceant, et spiritualibus; i Non potui vybis → « Non potui vobis; parvulisin → parvulis in; neo adhuc → nec adhuc; adhuc cnim estis carnales >? → adhuc enim estis carnales »?; eavendum → cavendum; culis nefaria → cultis nefaria.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 98.1 (PL 35:1879; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/97-1/#p-98-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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98.2PL 35:1879–1881
Primum ergo scire debet Charitas vestra, quod ipse Christus crucifixus, quo velut lacte parvulos aluisse se dicit Apostolus; ipsa vero caro ejus, in qua facta est vera mors ejus et vulnera vera confixi, sae guisque percussi, non eo modo a carnalibus quo ab spiritualibus cogitatur, et illis est lac, istis cibus; quia et si non audiunt amplius, intelligunt amplius. Non enim æqualiter mente percipitur, etiam quod in fide pa riter ab utrisque recipitur. Ita fit ut prædicatus ab Apo stolis Christus crucifixus, et Judæis esset scandalum, et Gentibus stultitia, et ipsis vocatis Judæis et Græcis Dei Virtus et Dei Sapientia: sed carnalibus parvulis id tantum credendo tenentibus, spiritualibus autem capacioribus id etiam intelligendo cernentibus; illis ergo tanquam lacteus potus, istis tanquam solidus cibus: non quia hoc illi aliter in populis, isti aliter in cubiculis cognoverunt; sed quod eodem modo utri que cum palam diceretur audiebant, pro suo modo quique capiebant. Cum enim Christus propterea sit crucifixus, ut in remissionem peccatorum sanguinem funderet, qua ejus Unigeniti passione divina gratia commendatur, ut nemo in homine glorietur; quomodo intelligebant Christum crucifixum qui adhuc dicebant, Ego sum Pauli? Numquid quomodo ipse Paulus qui dicebat, Mihi autem absit gloriari, nisi in cruce Domini nostri Jesu Christi? De ipso itaque Christo crucifixo, et ipse cibum pro sua capacitate sumebat, et illos lacte pro eorum infirmi tate nutriebat. Denique illa quæ scripsit ad Corinthios, aliter utique ab ipsis parvulis, aliter a capacioribus posse intelligi sciens, ait: Si quis est inter vos propheta aut spiritualis, agnoscat quæ scribo vobis, quia Domini est mandatum: si quis autem ignorat, ignorabitur. Solidam profecto voluit esse scien tiam spiritualium, ubi non sola fides accommodare tur, sed certa cognitio teneretur; ac per hoc illi ea ipsa credebant, quæ spirituales insuper agnoscebant. Ignorabitur autem, ait, qui ignorat; quia nondum ei revelatum est, ut quod credit sciat. Quod cum fit in hominis mente, ipse dicitur cognosci a Deo; quia Deus illum cognoscentem facit, sicut alibi ait: Nunc autem cognoscentes Deum, imo cogniti a Deo. Neque enim tunc cognoverat eos Deus, præcognitos et electos ante mundi constitutionem; sed tunc eos seipsum cognoscere fecerat.
First, then, your Charity should know that Christ crucified himself, with whom the Apostle says he fed the little ones as with milk, his very flesh, in which his true death took place, and the true wounds of the one pierced, and the blood of the one struck, is not thought of in the same way by the carnal as by the spiritual; and to the former it is milk, to the latter food; for even if they do not hear more, they understand more. For what is received equally in faith by both is not equally grasped by the mind. So it comes about that Christ crucified, preached by the apostles, was "to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Gentiles folly, but to those who are called, Jews and Greeks, the power of God and the wisdom of God"; but the carnal little ones held this only by believing, while the more capable spiritual ones also beheld it by understanding; to the former, then, it was like a drink of milk, to the latter like solid food: not because the former learned it one way among the congregations and the latter another way in private rooms, but because, while both heard it in the same way when it was spoken openly, each grasped it in his own measure. For since Christ was crucified precisely to shed his blood for the remission of sins, and by this passion of his Only-begotten the grace of God is commended, so that no one may glory in man, how did they understand Christ crucified who were still saying, "I am of Paul"? As Paul himself did, who said, "But far be it from me to glory except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ"? So, concerning that same Christ crucified, he both took food himself according to his capacity and nourished them with milk according to their weakness. Finally, knowing that what he wrote to the Corinthians could be understood one way by the little ones themselves and another way by the more capable, he says: "If anyone among you is a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that what I write to you is the Lord's commandment; but if anyone does not know, he will not be known." He wanted the knowledge of the spiritual to be solid, where not faith alone would be given but sure knowledge would be held; and therefore the others believed those very things which the spiritual also recognized. "But he will not be known," he says, who does not know; because it has not yet been revealed to him so that he knows what he believes. When this happens in a person's mind, he himself is said to be known by God, because God makes him a knower, as he says elsewhere: "But now, knowing God, or rather being known by God." For it was not then that God came to know those whom he had foreknown and chosen before the foundation of the world; but then he made them know him.
1 Cor 3:2 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 1:23 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 1:24 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 1:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 6:14 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 14:37 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 14:38 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 4:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 1:4 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Christ crucified is the same teaching for all, milk to the carnal who believe it and solid food to the spiritual who understand it.
- 1 Cor 1:23–24, 1 Cor 1:12, Gal 6:14, 1 Cor 14:37–38, and Gal 4:9 are quoted; 1 Cor 3:2 and Eph 1:4 are in view. Migne's inline reference is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's inline Scripture reference (leaked); OCR slip): Cbristus → Christus; ApoSlolus → Apostolus; in que facta → in qua facta; noa eo modo → non eo modo; ritcr ab ulrisqne → riter ab utrisque; Iia fit → Ita fit; ct Grntibus stultitia, et ipsis vocatis Judxis → et Gentibus stultitia, et ipsis vocatis Judæis; Sapientia(I Cor. I, 23, 24;: → Sapientia:; eodum modo → eodem modo; tite nutriebat → tate nutriebat; Siquis eat intervos propheta aut spirtiualis → Si quis est inter vos propheta aut spiritualis; qnia Domini eat mandatum → quia Domini est mandatum; tiain spiritualium → tiam spiritualium; Jgnorabitur autcm → Ignorabitur autem; ci revelatum → ei revelatum; Nunc cutem → Nunc autem; præcognitos ct electos → præcognitos et electos; eos scipsum → eos seipsum.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 98.2 (PL 35:1879–1881; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/97-1/#p-98-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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98.3PL 35:1881
Hoc igitur primitus cognito, quod ea ipsa quæ simul audiunt spirituales atque carnales, pro suo qui que modulo capiunt; illi ut parvuli, isti ut majores, illi ut lactis alimentum, isti ut cibi solidamentum: nulla videtur esse necessitas, ut aliqua secreta do ctrinæ taceantur, et abscondantur fidelibus parvulis, seorsum dicenda majoribus, hoc est intelligentioribus; et hoc ideo faciendum putetur, quia dixit Apostolus, Non potui vobis loqui quasi spiritualibus, sed quasi carnalibus. Hoc ipsum enim quod non judicavit se scire in eis nisi Jesum Christum, et hunc crucifixum, ipsis non potuit loqui quasi spirituali bus, sed quasi carnalibus; quia id sicut spirituales capere non valebant. Quicumque autem spirituales inter eos erant, idem quod illi tanquam carnales au diebant, spirituali ipsi intellectu capiebant: ut sic in telligatur quod ait, Non potui vobis loqui quasi spiri tualibus, sed quasi carnalibus, ac si diceret, Non po tuistis quasi spirituales, sed quasi carnales capere quod loquebar. Animalis enim homo, id est, qui secun dum hominem sapit, animalis dictus ab anima, carnalia a carne, quia ex anima et carne constat totus homo, non percipit quæ sunt Spiritus Dei, id est, quid gratiae credentibus crux conferat Christi; et pu tat hoc illa cruce actum esse tantummodo, ut nobis usque ad mortem pro veritate certantibus imitandum præberetur exemplum. Nam si scirent hujusmodi ho mines, qui nolunt esse nisi homines, quemadmodum Christus crucifixus factus sit nobis sapientia a Deo, et justitia, et sanctificatio, et redemptio, ut quemadmodum scriptum est, Qui gloriatur in Domino glorietur; procul dubio non gloriarentur in homine, nec carnaliter dicerent, Ego quidem sum Pauli; ego autem Apollo; ego vero Cephæ: sed spiritualiter, Ego sum Christi.
This being first understood, that the very things which the spiritual and the carnal hear together each grasps according to his own measure, the former as little ones, the latter as grown men, the former as the nourishment of milk, the latter as the solidity of food, there seems to be no need for any secrets of doctrine to be kept silent and hidden from believing little ones, to be told separately to the grown, that is, the more intelligent; nor should this be thought necessary because the Apostle said, "I could not speak to you as to spiritual people, but as to carnal." For the very thing he judged that he knew among them, nothing but Jesus Christ and him crucified, he could not speak to them as to spiritual people but as to carnal, because they could not grasp it as spiritual people do. But whoever among them were spiritual grasped with spiritual understanding the same thing which the others heard as carnal; so that what he says, "I could not speak to you as to spiritual people, but as to carnal," is to be understood as if he said, "You could not grasp what I was saying as spiritual people, but only as carnal." For "the natural man," that is, one who thinks in a human way, called natural (animalis) from the soul (anima), as carnal from the flesh, because the whole man consists of soul and flesh, "does not perceive the things of the Spirit of God," that is, what grace the cross of Christ confers on believers; and he thinks that the only thing done by that cross was that an example might be set before us to imitate as we contend for the truth even unto death. For if men of this kind, who wish to be nothing but men, knew how Christ crucified "became for us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification and redemption, so that, as it is written, he who glories may glory in the Lord," beyond doubt they would not glory in man, nor say carnally, "I am of Paul, I of Apollos, I of Cephas," but spiritually, "I am of Christ."
1 Cor 3:1 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:2 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:14 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 1:30 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 1:31 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 1:12 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: There is no need for secret doctrines: the carnal and the spiritual hear the same Christ crucified, and grasp it in different measure.
- 1 Cor 3:1, 1 Cor 2:14, 1 Cor 1:30–31, and 1 Cor 1:12 are quoted; 1 Cor 2:2 is in view.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): simui → simul; nulta videtur → nulla videtur; ctrinaE → ctrinæ; judicavit sc scire → judicavit se scire; spiriluali → spirituali; eapere → capere; antem spirituales → autem spirituales; earnales → carnales; tuatibus → tualibus; qnod loquebar → quod loquebar; hommem, sapit → hominem sapit; totns homo → totus homo; praberctur → præberetur; huJusmodi → hujusmodi; nt quemadmodum → ut quemadmodum.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 98.3 (PL 35:1881; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/97-1/#p-98-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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98.4PL 35:1881
Verum illud adhuc quæstionem facit, quod in Epistola ad Hebræos legitur: « Cum jam deberetis tempore ipso esse doctores, iterum doctrina indige tis, quae sint elementa sermonum Dei; et facti estis opus habentes lacte, non solido cibo. Omnis enim qui lactatur, inexpertus est verbum justitiæ; infans est enim. Perfectorum est autem solidus cibus, eorum qui per habitum exercitatos habent sensus, ad separandum bonum a malo». Hic enim videmus tanquam definitum esse quem perfectorum dicit soli dum cibum; et hoc esse illud quod ad Corinthios scriptum est, Sapientiam loquimur inter perfectos. Quos autem perfectos voluerit hoc loco intelligi, subjecit atque ait, Qui per habitum exercitatos habent sensus, ad separandum bonum a malo. Hoc ergo qui invalida et inexercitata mente non possunt, pro fecto nisi fidei quodam lacte teneantur, ut et invisi bilia quae non vident, et intelligibilia quæ nondum in telligunt, credant, facile ad vanas et sacrilegas fabulas promissione scientiæ ducuntur: ut et bonum et ma lum nonnisi corporalibus imaginibus cogitent, et ipsum Deum nonnisi aliquod esse corpus existiment, et ma lum nisi substantiam putare non possint; cum sit potius ab immutabili substantia mutabilium substan tiarum quidam defectus, quas fecit ex nihilo ipsa im mutabilis et summa substantia, qui est Deus. Quod profecto quisquis non solum credit, verum etiam exercitatis interioribus animi sensibus intelligit, per cipit, novit; non est jam metuendum ne seducatur ab eis qui malum putando esse substantiam quam non fecit Deus, mutabilem substantiam faciunt ipsum Deum, sicut Manichæi, vel si quae aliæ pestes ita de sipiunt.
But what still raises a question is what is read in the Epistle to the Hebrews: "For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need again to be taught what are the elements of the words of God; and you have become such as need milk, not solid food. For everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is an infant. But solid food belongs to the perfect, to those who by practice have their senses trained to distinguish good from evil." For here we see, as it were defined, what he calls the solid food of the perfect; and that this is what was written to the Corinthians, "We speak wisdom among the perfect." And whom he wished to be understood as the perfect in this place he added, saying, "those who by practice have their senses trained to distinguish good from evil." Those, then, who cannot do this, because their minds are weak and untrained, unless they are held by a kind of milk of faith, so as to believe both the invisible things which they do not see and the intelligible things which they do not yet understand, are easily led by the promise of knowledge to vain and sacrilegious fables: so that they think of both good and evil only in bodily images, and suppose God himself to be only some kind of body, and cannot think of evil except as a substance; whereas it is rather a kind of falling away from the immutable substance on the part of mutable substances, which that immutable and highest substance, which is God, made out of nothing. Whoever not only believes this but also understands, perceives, and knows it with the trained inward senses of the mind need no longer fear being seduced by those who, by thinking that evil is a substance which God did not make, make God himself a mutable substance, as the Manichees do, or whatever other plagues are so foolish.
Heb 5:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 5:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 5:14 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:6 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Solid food is the trained understanding that distinguishes good from evil; without the milk of faith the weak fall into fables like the Manichees', who make evil a substance.
- Heb 5:12–14 and 1 Cor 2:6 are quoted. Augustine's account of evil as a defect, not a substance, and his naming of the Manichees, are translated as written. Migne's inline reference is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's inline Scripture reference (leaked); OCR slip; stray mark): facil, quod → facit, quod; Herum doctrina → iterum doctrina; infans est cnim → infans est enim; malo»(£for. v, 12-14). → malo».; deflnilum → definitum; qnod ad Corinthios seriptum est, Sopientiam → quod ad Corinthios scriptum est, Sapientiam; intciligi → intelligi; tencantur → teneantur; non videit → non vident; ut ct bonum → ut et bonum; corporalihus → corporalibus; possinl → possint; Mutabilis. et → mutabilis et; animi, sensibus → animi sensibus; non cst jain → non est jam.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 98.4 (PL 35:1881; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/97-1/#p-98-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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98.5PL 35:1881–1883
Sed menti adhuc parvulis, quos dicit Apostolus carnales lacte nutriendos, omnis de hac re sermo, quo agitur ut non solum credatur, verum etiam intel ligatur sciaturque quod dicitur, percipere talia non valentibus onerosus est, faciliusque eos premit quam pascit. Ex quo fit ut spirituales ista carnalibus non omnimodo taceant, propter catholicam fidem, quæ omnibus prædicanda est; nec tamen sic disserant, ut volentes ea perducere ad intelligentiam non capacem, facilius fastidiri faciant in veritate sermonem, quam in sermone percipi veritatem. Propterea dicit, scribens ad Colossenses: Et si corpore absens sum, spiritu vobiscum sum, gaudens et videns ordinationem ve stram, et id quod deest fidei vestræ in Christo. Et ad Thessalonicenses: Nocte ac die, inquit, abundantius orantes, ut videamus faciem vestram, et suppleamus quæ desunt fidei vestræ. Intelligendi sunt utique ita primum catechizati, ut lacte alerentur, non solido cibo: cujus lactis ad He bræos commemoratur ubertas eis quos volebat cibi solidate jam pascere. Propter quod ait: « Ideoque remittentes initii Christi verbum, in consummatio nem respiciamus; non iterum jacientes fundamentum poenitentiae ab operibus mortuis, et fidei in Deum, lavacri doctrinae, et impositionis manuum, resurre ctionis etiam mortuorum, et judicii æterni». Hæc est lactis ubertas, sine quo non vivunt qui jam quidem ratione utuntur ut possint credere, sed bonum a malo, non credendo tantum, verum etiam intelligendo (quod pertinet ad solidum cibum) separare non possunt. Quod autem in lactis comme moratione posuit et doctrinam, ipsa est quae per sym bolum traditur et orationem dominicam.
But for minds still little, whom the Apostle calls carnal and says are to be nourished with milk, every discourse on this matter that aims at having what is said not only believed but also understood and known is burdensome to those unable to perceive such things, and more easily crushes them than feeds them. Hence it comes about that the spiritual do not keep these things entirely silent from the carnal, because of the catholic faith, which must be preached to all; and yet they do not discuss them in such a way that, wishing to bring them to an understanding not able to take them in, they make the discourse loathed in the truth more easily than they make the truth perceived in the discourse. That is why he says, writing to the Colossians: "For though I am absent in body, I am with you in spirit, rejoicing and seeing your order, and what is lacking to your faith in Christ." And to the Thessalonians: "Night and day," he says, "praying more abundantly that we may see your face and supply what is lacking to your faith." These are certainly to be understood as having been first catechized so as to be fed with milk, not solid food; and the abundance of this milk is recalled to the Hebrews, whom he now wished to feed with the solidity of food. Hence he says: "Therefore, leaving the word of the beginning of Christ, let us look to completion; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, of the teaching of washing, and of the laying on of hands, of the resurrection also of the dead, and of eternal judgment." This is the abundance of milk, without which those cannot live who already use reason so as to be able to believe, but cannot distinguish good from evil not only by believing but also by understanding (which belongs to solid food). And the "teaching" which he included among the things he named as milk is what is handed on through the Creed and the Lord's Prayer.
Col 2:5 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Thess 3:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 6:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 6:2 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The spiritual do not hide the faith from the carnal but do not overload them; the milk of the faith is the basic teaching handed on in the Creed and the Lord's Prayer.
- Col 2:5 (in an Old Latin form), 1 Thess 3:10, and Heb 6:1–2 are quoted. The reference to the Creed and the Lord's Prayer as the teaching given to catechumens is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (quotation mark); stray mark): Sed meate adhuc parvulis → Sed menti adhuc parvulis; iios premit → eos premit; ista. carnalibus → ista carnalibus; fidem r qua omnibus prædicanda Cbt → fidem, quæ omnibus prædicanda est; intelligentiarn uon cap. cem → intelligentiam non capacem; vcritatcm. Propterea did., → veritatem. Propterea dicit,; abscus sum, spivitu → absens sum, spiritu; nem vc → nem ve; decst → deest; El ad Thessalonicenses → Et ad Thessalonicenses; ( bundantius → abundantius; vidcamus → videamus; prilnum → primum; hr.ros → bræos; volcbaL → volebat; c Ideoque → « Ideoque; mortuis. et fidei → mortuis, et fidei; ct judicii → et judicii; siue quo → sine quo.
Topics: Prayer
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 98.5 (PL 35:1881–1883; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/97-1/#p-98-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.
98.6PL 35:1883
Sed huic lacti absit ut sit contrarius cibus rerum spiritualium firma intelligentia capiendus, qui Colos sensibus et Thessalonicensibus defuit, et supplendus fuit. Quando enim suppletur quod defuit, non impro batur quod fuit. Nam et in ipsis quae sumimus ali mentis, usque adeo non est lacti contrarius solidus cibus, ut ipse lactescat, quo possit esse aptus infan tibus, ad quos per matris vel nutricis pervenit car nem: sicut fecit etiam mater ipsa sapientia, quæ cum sit in excelsis Angelorum solidus cibus, dignata est quodammodo lactescere parvulis, cum Verbum caro factum est, et habitavit in nobis. Sed ipse homo Christus, qui vera carne, vera cruce, vera morte, vera resurrectione sincerum lac dicitur parvulorum, cum bene ab spiritualibus capitur, invenitur Dominus Angelorum. Proinde nec sic parvuli sunt la ctandi, ut semper non intelligant Deum Christum; nec sic ablactandi, ut deserant hominem Christum. Quod alio modo idipsum ita dici potest: nec sic la ctandi sunt, ut creatorem nunquam intelligant Chri stum; nec sic ablactandi, ut mediatorem unquam de serant Christum. In hoc quippe non convenit huic rei similitudo materni lactis et solidi cibi, sed potius fun damenti: quia et puer quando ablactatur, ut ab ali mentis infantiae jam recedat, inter solidos cibos non repetit ubera quae sugebat; Christus autem crucifixus, et lac sugentibus, et cibus est proficientibus. Funda menti vero ideo est aptior similitudo, quia ut perfi ciatur quod struitur, additur ædificium, non subtra hitur fundamentum.
But far be it that the food of spiritual things, which is to be taken in by firm understanding, which was lacking to the Colossians and Thessalonians and had to be supplied, should be contrary to this milk. For when what was lacking is supplied, what was there is not rejected. For even in the food we take, solid food is so far from being contrary to milk that it itself turns into milk, so as to be suited to infants, reaching them through the flesh of mother or nurse; as Wisdom herself, our mother, has also done: though she is the solid food of angels on high, she deigned in a way to turn into milk for little ones, when the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. But the man Christ himself, who in true flesh, true cross, true death, and true resurrection is called the pure milk of little ones, when rightly grasped by the spiritual, is found to be the Lord of angels. So little ones are not to be suckled in such a way that they never understand Christ as God, nor weaned in such a way that they abandon Christ the man. The same thing can be put another way: they are not to be suckled in such a way that they never understand Christ as Creator, nor weaned in such a way that they ever abandon Christ as Mediator. In this respect the likeness of mother's milk and solid food does not fit the matter so well as that of a foundation: for when a child is weaned, so as to leave behind the nourishment of infancy, he does not go back, among his solid foods, to the breasts he used to suck; but Christ crucified is both milk to those who suck and food to those who advance. The likeness of a foundation is more apt for this reason, that to complete what is being built, the building is added to, the foundation is not taken away.
John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Pet 2:2 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 3:11 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Solid food does not contradict the milk of faith; the incarnate Wisdom became milk for little ones, and Christ crucified remains the foundation to which understanding is added.
- John 1:14 is quoted; 1 Pet 2:2 and 1 Cor 3:10–11 are in view. The description of Wisdom as mother is Augustine's; the Christological statements are translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): supplendus, fuit → supplendus fuit; Quando cnim → Quando enim; non cat lacti → non est lacti; . vulorum, cum → vulorum, cum; Deam Christum → Deum Christum; hominetn → hominem; sant, nt creatorem → sunt, ut creatorem; sorant → serant; sugcbal → sugebat.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 98.6 (PL 35:1883; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/97-1/#p-98-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.
98.7PL 35:1883
Quæ cum ita sint, o quicumque estis, qui sine dubio multi estis parvuli in Christo, proficite ad soli dum cibum mentis, non ventris. Proficite ad separan dum bonum a malo, et magis magisque inhaerete Me diatori, per quem liberamini a malo; quod non est a vobis loco separandum, sed in vobis potius est sanan dum. Quisquis autem vobis dixerit, Nolite credere vc rum hominem Christum, aut non a vero Deo corpus cujuslibet hominis vel cujuslibet animantis creatum, aut non a vero Deo Vetus Testamentum datum, et si quid hujusmodi; hæc enim vobis prius ideo non dice bantur, quando lacte nutriebamini, quoniam ad vera capienda cor nondum habebatis idoneum: non vobis iste cibum præparat, sed venenum. Propter quod bca tus Apostolus eos alloquens qui sui jam videbantur esse perfecti, cum se imperfectum ipse dixisset, Quot quot ergo, inquit, perfecti, hoc sapiamus: et si quid uli ter sapitis, hoc quoque vobis Deus revelabit. Et ne forte incurrerent in seductores, qui eos vellent a fide aver tere promittendo scientiam veritatis, et hoc putarent esse quod dixit Apostolus, id quoque vobis Deus revela bit; continuo subjunxit, Verumtamen in quod perveni mus, in eo ambulemus. Si quid ergo intellexeris quod non sit contra regulam catho licæ fidei, ad quam, velut viam quæ te ducat ad pa triam, pervenisti; et sic intellexeris, ut inde dubitare omnino non debeas: adde aedificium, noli tamen re linquere fundamentum. Sic debent majores docere aliquid parvulos, ut omnium Dominum Christum, et seipsis longe majores Prophetas et Apostolos non di cant aliquid fuisse mentitos. Non autem solum vanilo quos et mentis seductores fabulosa et falsa garrientes, et in eis vanitatibus velut altam scientiam promitten tes contra regulam fidei, quam catholicam suscepi stis, cavere debetis: verum etiam ipsos qui de ipsa divinae immutabilitate naturæ, vel incorporea creatu ra, sive Creatore veraciter disputant, et quod dicunt, omnino documentis atque rationibus certissimis pro bant, et tamen ab uno Dei et hominum Mediatore co nantur avertere, tanquam pestem insidiosiorem cæte ris fugite. Tales enim sunt de quibus dicit Apostolus, Quia cognoscentes Deum, non sicut Deum glorificave runt. Quid enim prodest habere intelli gentiam veram de immutabili bono, ei qui non tenet per quem liberetur a malo? Prorsus admonitio beatis simi Apostoli de vestris cordibus non recedat: Si quis vobis evangelizaverit præter quod accepistis, anathema sit. Non ait, plus quam accepistis; sed, præ ter quod accepistis. Nam si illud diceret, sibi ipse prae judicaret, qui cupiebat venire ad Thessalonicenses, ut suppleret quæ illorum fidei defuerunt. Sed qui sup plet, quod minus erat addit, non quod inerat tollit: qui autem prætergreditur fidei regulam, non accedit in via, sed recedit de via.
Since these things are so, O all of you who are little ones in Christ (and beyond doubt you are many), advance to the solid food of the mind, not of the belly. Advance to distinguishing good from evil, and cling more and more to the Mediator, through whom you are freed from evil, which is not to be separated from you by place but rather healed in you. But whoever says to you, "Do not believe that Christ was a true man, or that the body of any man or of any living creature was created by the true God, or that the Old Testament was given by the true God," or anything of the kind, adding, "These things were not told you before, when you were nourished with milk, because you did not yet have a heart fit to grasp the truth," is preparing not food for you but poison. Therefore the blessed Apostle, addressing those who already seemed to themselves to be perfect, after he had said that he himself was imperfect, says, "As many, then, as are perfect, let us think this; and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal this too to you." And lest perhaps they fall in with seducers who would want to turn them from the faith by promising knowledge of the truth, and think that this was what the Apostle meant by "God will reveal this too to you," he at once added, "Nevertheless, to what we have attained, in that let us walk." If then you have understood something that is not against the rule of the catholic faith, to which you have come as to the way that leads you to the homeland, and have understood it in such a way that you ought not to doubt it at all, add to the building, but do not abandon the foundation. The greater should teach the little ones in such a way as not to say that Christ, the Lord of all, or the prophets and apostles, far greater than themselves, lied in anything. And you must beware not only of vain talkers and seducers of minds, who chatter fabulous and false things and in these vanities promise a lofty knowledge against the rule of faith which you have received as catholic; but you must also flee as a more insidious plague than the rest those who reason truly about the immutability of the divine nature, or about incorporeal creation or the Creator, and prove what they say by most certain proofs and reasons, and yet try to turn people away from the one Mediator between God and men. For such are those of whom the Apostle says, "Because, knowing God, they did not glorify him as God." For what does it profit to have true understanding of the immutable good to one who does not hold fast to him through whom he is freed from evil? By all means let the admonition of the most blessed Apostle not depart from your hearts: "If anyone preaches to you a gospel besides what you have received, let him be anathema." He does not say, "more than you have received," but "besides what you have received." For if he said the former, he would prejudge himself, who wished to come to the Thessalonians to supply what was lacking to their faith. But he who supplies adds what was less, does not take away what was there; whereas he who goes beyond the rule of faith does not advance on the way but withdraws from the way.
1 Tim 2:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 3:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 3:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 1:9 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Thess 3:10 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Believers must grow in understanding without abandoning the rule of faith, rejecting both those who deny Christ's humanity, the creation, or the Old Testament and those who know God truly yet turn from the one Mediator.
- Phil 3:15–16, Rom 1:21, and Gal 1:9 are quoted; 1 Tim 2:5 and 1 Thess 3:10 are in view. The teachings rejected are those of the Manichees and, apparently, of Platonist philosophers, neither named here; translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): quicumqne → quicumque; a mala; quod non cst a vobis loco separandum, scd in vobis potius cst → a malo; quod non est a vobis loco separandum, sed in vobis potius est; rum bominem → rum hominem; auimantis → animantis; et ti quid → et si quid; habcbatis → habebatis; tus Apostolus cos alloquens → tus Apostolus eos alloquens; qui cos vellent a fide avcr → qui eos vellent a fide aver; quæ tc ducat → quæ te ducat; noli tamen rc → noli tamen re; parvuios → parvulos; ei seipsis longe mnjores → et seipsis longe majores; vcrum etiam → verum etiam; quod dicum → quod dicunt; nautur → nantur; babere intelli → habere intelli; a rnalo → a malo; Siquis vobis → Si quis vobis.
Topics: Heresy, Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 98.7 (PL 35:1883; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/97-1/#p-98-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.
98.8PL 35:1883–1885
Quod itaque ait Dominus, Adhuc multa habeo vo bis dicere, sed non potestis portare modo; adjicienda illis fuerant quæ nesciebant, non quae didicerant ever tenda. Et ille quidem, sicut in pristino sermone jam exposui, potuit hoc ita dicere, quia illa ipsa quæ do cuerat, si vellet eis sic aperire, ut in illo concipiuntur ab Angelis; hoc infirmitas humana in qua adhuc erant, ferre non posset. Spiritualis autem homo quili bet potest alterum hominem docere quod novit, si pro ficiendo capaciorem faciat Spiritus sanctus, in quo et ipse doctor aliquid amplius addiscere potuit, ut sint ambo docibiles Deo. Quanquam et inter ipsos spirituales sunt utique aliis alii capaciores atque meliores; ita ut quidam illorum ad ea pervenerit quæ non licet homini loqui. Qua occasione vani quidam Apocalypsim Pauli, quam sana non recipit Ecclesia, nescio quibus fabulis plenam, stultissima praesum ptione finxerunt; dicentes hanc esse unde dixerat ra ptum se fuisse in tertium coelum, et illic audisse inef fabilia verba quæ non licet homini loqui. Utcumque illorum tolerabilis esset audacia, si se audisse dixisset quæ adhuc non licet homini loqui: cum vero dixerit, quæ non licet homini loqui; isti qui sunt qui haec audeant impudenter et infeliciter loqui? Sed jam istum sermonem hoc fine concludam; per quem vos esse cupio sapientes quidem in bono, inte gros autem a malo.
So when the Lord says, "I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now," what was to be added for them was what they did not know, not the overturning of what they had learned. And he indeed, as I explained in the previous sermon, could say this, because if he had wished to open to them the very things he had taught in the way they are conceived in him by the angels, the human weakness in which they still were could not bear it. But any spiritual man can teach another what he knows, if the Holy Spirit makes him more capable by his advancing, in whom the teacher himself too could learn something more, so that both may be taught by God. Although even among spiritual men themselves some are certainly more capable and better than others, so that one of them came to things which it is not lawful for a man to speak. On this pretext certain vain people, with most foolish presumption, have forged an Apocalypse of Paul, full of who knows what fables, which the sound church does not receive, saying that this is what he meant when he said that he had been caught up to the third heaven and there heard ineffable words which it is not lawful for a man to speak. Their audacity might in some way be tolerable if he had said he heard things which it is not yet lawful for a man to speak; but since he said "which it is not lawful for a man to speak," who are these who dare to speak these things so impudently and so unhappily? But now I will close this sermon with this end, by which I wish you to be wise in what is good and innocent of evil.
John 16:12 (quotation, high confidence) · John 6:45 (allusion, medium confidence) · 2 Cor 12:2 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 12:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 16:19 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: What remained to be taught was to be added to, not to overturn, what the disciples had learned; the forged Apocalypse of Paul presumes to reveal what Paul said may not be spoken.
- John 16:12, 2 Cor 12:2–4, and Rom 16:19 are quoted; John 6:45 is in view. Augustine rejects the apocryphal Apocalypse of Paul.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): bia dicere → bis dicere; illisfuerantqudc → illis fuerant quæ; evcr → ever; quoe do → quæ do; in quo ct ipse → in quo et ipse; qum non licet → quæ non licet; qux adhuc → quæ adhuc; grus autem → gros autem.
Extrabiblical texts: Apoc. Paul (Apocalypse of Paul; echo)
Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 98.8 (PL 35:1883–1885; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/97-1/#p-98-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.