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Miscellanies 1.21.104

Clement of Alexandria · Miscellanies · ca. 198–203 · Alexandria · Read in context

Summary: The various dates given for the fall of Troy are set out; Theseus and Heracles lived a generation earlier.

Greek text · Stählin 2:67

κατὰ δὲ τὸ ὀκτωκαιδέκατον ἔτος τῆς Ἀγαμέμνονος βασιλείας Ἴλιον ἑάλω, Δημοφῶντος τοῦ Θησέως βασιλεύοντος Ἀθήνησι τῷ πρώτῳ ἔτει, θαργηλιῶνος μηνὸς δευτέρᾳ ἐπὶ δέκα, ὥς φησι Διονύσιος ὁ Ἀργεῖος, Ἀγίας δὲ καὶ Δερκύλος ἐν τῇ τρίτῃ μηνὸς πανήμου ὀγδόῃ φθίνοντος, Ἑλλάνικος γὰρ δωδεκάτῃ θαργηλιῶνος μηνός. καί τινες τῶν τὰ Ἀττικὰ συγγραψαμένων ὀγδόῃ φθίνοντος, βασιλεύοντος τὸ τελευταῖον ἔτος Μενεσθέως, πληθυούσης σελήνης· νὺξ μὲν ἔην, φησὶν ὁ τὴν μικρὰν Ἰλιάδα πεποιηκώς, μεσάτα, λαμπρὰ δὲ ἐπέτελλε σελάνα· ἕτεροι δὲ σκιροφοριῶνος τῇ αὐτῇ ἡμέρᾳ. Θησεὺς δὲ ὁ Ἡρακλέους ζηλωτὴς ὢν πρεσβύτερός ἐστι τῶν Τρωϊκῶν μιᾷ γενεᾷ. τοῦ γοῦν Τληπολέμου, ὃς ἦν υἱὸς Ἡρακλέους, Ὅμηρος μέμνηται ἐπὶ Ἴλιον στρατεύσαντος.

English · Claude translation

Ilium was taken in the eighteenth year of Agamemnon's reign, in the first year of Demophon son of Theseus as king at Athens, on the twelfth of the month Thargelion, as Dionysius of Argos says; Agias and Dercylus in their third book say on the eighth day before the end of the month Panemus; Hellanicus says the twelfth of Thargelion. And some of those who wrote Attic histories say the eighth day before the end, in the last year of Menestheus' reign, at full moon: “It was midnight,” says the author of the Little Iliad, “and the bright moon was rising”; others say the same day of Scirophorion. Theseus, an emulator of Heracles, is one generation older than the Trojan War. At any rate Homer mentions Tlepolemus, a son of Heracles, as having fought against Ilium.

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Source
Stählin 2:67 · Otto Stählin, ed., Clemens Alexandrinus, vol. 2, Stromata Buch I–VI, GCS 15 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1906); vol. 3, Stromata Buch VII und VIII, GCS 17 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1909) · Greek text: Otto Stählin, Clemens Alexandrinus 2–3 (GCS 15, 17, 1906–1909), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library, CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in Stählin, GCS 15, 17. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Stählin (1906–1909); made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 2 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made) · Book 3 is left partly untranslated (in Latin) there.
Topics
Scripture and canon

Notes

Translation notes

  • The quotation is the Little Iliad, fragment 12 (Allen). Tlepolemus is in Iliad 2.653.

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Clement of Alexandria, Strom. 1.21.104 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/clement-stromata/1/21/104/).

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Clement of Alexandria, Strom. 1.21.104 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/clement-stromata/1/21/104/).

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