Miscellanies 2.20.121
Summary: Greek philosophers too opposed pleasure: Antisthenes preferred madness, Crates praised the soul free of gold and love and prescribed hunger or the noose for lust, and the comic poets mocked Zeno's frugality.
Greek text · Stählin 2:178–179
καὶ Ἀντισθένης δὲ μανῆναι μᾶλλον ἢ ἡσθῆναι αἱρεῖται, ὅ τε Θηβαῖος Κράτης τῶν δὲ (φησὶ) κράτει ψυχῆς ἤθει ἀγαλλομένη· οὔθʼ ὑπὸ χρυσείων δουλουμένη οὔθʼ ὑπʼ ἐρώτων τηξιπόθων, οὐδʼ εἴ τι συνέμπορόν ἐστι φίλυβρι. καὶ τὸ ὅλον ἐπιλέγει· ἡδονῇ ἀνδραποδώδει ἀδούλωτοι καὶ ἄκναπτοι ἀθάνατον βασιλείαν ἐλευθερίαν τʼ ἀγαπῶσιν. οὗτος ἐν ἄλλοις εὐθυρημόνως γράφει τῆς εἰς τὰ ἀφροδίσια ἀκατασχέτου ὁρμῆς κατάπλασμα εἶναι λιμόν, εἰ δὲ μή, βρόχον. Ζήνωνι δὲ τῷ Στωϊκῷ τὴν διδασκαλίαν μαρτυροῦσι καίτοι διασύροντες οἱ κωμικοὶ ὧδέ πως· φιλοσοφίαν καινὴν γὰρ οὗτος φιλοσοφεῖ· πεινῆν διδάσκει καὶ μαθητὰς λαμβάνει· εἷς ἄρτος, ὄψον ἰσχάς, ἐπιπιεῖν ὕδωρ.
English · Claude translation
And Antisthenes chooses to go mad rather than to feel pleasure; and Crates of Thebes says, “Master these things, a soul rejoicing in character, neither enslaved by gold nor by loves that melt with longing, nor by anything that goes with insolence.” And he concludes the whole: “Unenslaved and unbent by slavish pleasure, they love an immortal kingdom and freedom.” He writes elsewhere, plainly, that the plaster for an uncontrollable urge toward sexual pleasures is hunger, and if not, the noose. And the comic poets bear witness to the teaching of Zeno the Stoic, though mocking him, in this way: “For this man philosophizes a new philosophy: he teaches hunger and gets disciples; one loaf, a dried fig for relish, water to drink after.”
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- The quotations are Antisthenes (fragment), Crates (fragments of his elegies), and Philemon (fragment 85 Kock) on Zeno.
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- Digital text corrected (wrong breathing on οὐδʼ): ούδʼ εἴ τι συνέμπορόν → οὐδʼ εἴ τι συνέμπορόν.
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Clement of Alexandria, Strom. 2.20.121 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/clement-stromata/2/20/121/).
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Clement of Alexandria, Strom. 2.20.121 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/clement-stromata/2/20/121/).
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