Miscellanies 3.9.66

Summary: The ascetics omit the rest of the Salome dialogue: when she said she did well not to bear children, the Lord answered, “Eat every plant, but not the bitter one,” leaving marriage or celibacy to free choice.

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Greek text · Stählin 2:226

τί δὲ οὐχὶ καὶ τὰ ἑξῆς τῶν πρὸς Σαλώμην εἰρημένων ἐπιφέρουσιν οἱ πάντα μᾶλλον ἢ τῷ κατὰ τὴν ἀλήθειαν εὐαγγελικῷ στοιχήσαντες κανόνι; φαμένης γὰρ αὐτῆς καλῶς οὖν ἐποίησα μὴ τεκοῦσα, ὡς οὐ δεόντως τῆς γενέσεως παραλαμβανομένης, ἀμείβεται λέγων ὁ κύριος· πᾶσαν φάγε βοτάνην, τὴν δὲ πικρίαν ἔχουσαν μὴ φάγῃς. σημαίνει γὰρ καὶ διὰ τούτων ἐφʼ ἡμῖν εἶναι καὶ οὐκ ἐξ ἀνάγκης κατὰ κώλυσιν ἐντολῆς ἤτοι τὴν ἐγκράτειαν ἢ καὶ τὸν γάμον, καὶ ὅτι ὁ γάμος συνεργάζεταί τι τῇ κτίσει προσδιασαφῶν.

English · Claude translation

And why do those who follow anything rather than the true gospel rule not also cite what follows in the words to Salome? For when she said, “Then I did well in not bearing children,” as though birth were not properly accepted, the Lord answers, saying: “Eat every plant, but do not eat the one that has bitterness.” For by these words too he signifies that either self-control or marriage rests with us, and not by necessity through a prohibiting commandment, and he makes clear besides that marriage cooperates in some way with creation.

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Source
Stählin 2:226 · Otto Stählin, ed., Clemens Alexandrinus, vol. 2, Stromata Buch I–VI, GCS 15 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1906); vol. 3, Stromata Buch VII und VIII, GCS 17 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1909) · Greek text: Otto Stählin, Clemens Alexandrinus 2–3 (GCS 15, 17, 1906–1909), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library, CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in Stählin, GCS 15, 17. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Stählin (1906–1909); made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 2 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made) · Book 3 is left partly untranslated (in Latin) there.
Extrabiblical texts
  • Gos. Eg. (Gospel of the Egyptians) · quotation, high confidence
Topics
Marriage, Heresy

Notes

Translation notes

  • The quotation is the Gospel of the Egyptians.

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Clement of Alexandria, Strom. 3.9.66 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/clement-stromata/3/9/66/).

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Clement of Alexandria, Strom. 3.9.66 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/clement-stromata/3/9/66/).

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