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Shepherd of Hermas, Similitude 9.12.2 (89.2)

Hermas · Shepherd of Hermas: Similitudes · ca. 100–150 · Rome · Read in context

Summary: The rock is old because the Son is older than all creation and was the Father's counselor in creating.

Greek text · Lake, LCL 25:248

ὁ μὲν υἱὸς τοῦ θεοῦ πάσης τῆς κτίσεως αὐτοῦ προγενέστερός ἐστιν, ὥστε σύμβουλον αὐτὸν γενέσθαι τῷ πατρὶ τῆς κτίσεως αὐτοῦ· διὰ τοῦτο καὶ παλαιὰ ἡ πέτρα. Ἡ δὲ πύλη διατί καινή, φημί, κύριε;

English · Claude translation

The Son of God is older than all his creation, so that he became the Father's counselor for his creation; this is why the rock is old.” “And why is the gate new, sir?” I said.

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Source
Lake, LCL 25:248 · Kirsopp Lake, ed. and trans., The Apostolic Fathers, vol. 2, LCL 25 (London: Heinemann; New York: Macmillan, 1913), 138–305 · Greek text: K. Lake, The Apostolic Fathers (LCL, 1912-1913), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in Lake, LCL 25. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-26 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Lake (LCL 25, 1913), and from the ancient Latin version where Lake prints it because the Greek is lost (from Sim. 9.30.3); made independently of existing English translations.
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Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 2 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)
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Christology

Notes

Translation notes

  • The pre-existence of the Son and his role in creation; compare Prov 8:22–31; John 1:1–3; Col 1:15–17.

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Herm. Sim. 9.12.2 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/herm-sim/9/12/2/).

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Herm. Sim. 9.12.2 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/herm-sim/9/12/2/).

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