Against Heresies 2.30.1–2.32.5

Latin text: Harvey 1857 (Latin text: Harvey (1857), transcribed from archive.org OCR of the printed volumes; section numbers checked against Stieren (1853)).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 1 (1885), Irenaeus, Against Heresies.

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Against 2, chapter 30

2.30.1Harvey 1:292

Et his sic se habentibus, super Demiurgum se ascendere dicunt insensati: et secundum hoc quod se meliores pronuntiant illo Deo qui coelos, et terram, et maria, et omnia que in eis sunt fecit et ornavit, et semet quidem spiritales esse volunt, inhonorate eum sint carnales propter tantam suam impietatem; qui autem fecit angelos suos spiritus, et induitur lumine quemadmodum pallium, et velut in manu tenet gyrum terre, ad quem inhabitantes eam velut locustae sunt deputati, et universae spiritalis substantiae Demiurgum et Dominum animalem esse dicentes: indubitate et vere suam ostendunt insaniam, et velut vere de tonitruo percussi super eos qui fabulis referuntur Gigantes, extollentes sententias adversus Deum, praesumtione vana et instabili gloria tumidi, quibus universe terrae elleborum non sufficit ad expurgationem, uti evomant tantam suam stultitiam.

This being so, these senseless people say that they ascend above the Demiurge. In so far as they declare themselves better than that God who made and adorned the heavens, the earth, the seas, and all that is in them, and wish to be spiritual themselves, dishonoring him, though they are carnal because of their great impiety; and in saying that he who makes his angels spirits, who is clothed with light as with a garment, who holds as it were in his hand the circle of the earth, before whom its inhabitants are counted as locusts, the Demiurge and Lord of all spiritual substance, is animal: they show undoubtedly and truly their own madness, and, as if truly struck by thunder, more than the Giants told of in the fables, they raise their opinions against God, swollen with vain presumption and unstable glory — people for whom all the hellebore on earth would not suffice to purge them, so that they might vomit up their great folly.

Exod 20:11 (allusion, medium confidence) · Ps 104:4 (103:4 LXX) (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 104:2 (103:2 LXX) (allusion, high confidence) · Isa 40:22 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Those who call the Creator of heaven and earth merely animal and themselves spiritual show their own madness.

  • Harvey's chapter title at the start of the section is removed. Allusions: Exod 20:11; Ps 104:4, 2 (103:4, 2 LXX); Isa 40:22. Hellebore was the ancient remedy for madness.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; editor's chapter title; OCR; footnote mark; footnote number; stray letters): Quoniam in nullo potest interior illorum. homo supergredi Demiurgum: et quoniam, non est verisimile, hos quidem spiritales esse, Demiurgum autem animalem. ]. Er his → Et his; univers:e spiritalis substanti:e → universae spiritalis substantiae; gloria cs tumidi → gloria tumidi; terrae 1 elleborum → terrae elleborum; stultitiam.? → stultitiam..

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Irenaeus, Haer. 2.30.1 (Harvey 1:292; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/irenaeus-adversus-haereses/2-30-1/#p-2-30-1).

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the ancient Latin translation as printed by Harvey (Cambridge, 1857), from the OCR of the printed edition with slips corrected as logged, in Massuet's section numbering; lines lost in the scan supplied from Stieren's edition (1848–53) where noted; each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation in ANF 1 (1885).

2.30.2Harvey 1:292

Meliorem enim ex operibus oportet ostendi. Unde igitur semetipsos ostendunt Demiurgo meliores, (uti et nos ad impietatem propter necessitatem sermonis devergamus, Dei et insanorum hominum comparationem facientes, et in argumentationem eorum descendentes, saepe per propria ipsorum dogmata arguentes eos: sed nobis quidem propitius sit Deus; non enim illis eum comparantes, sed arguentes, et evertentes illorum insaniam, dicimus haec), ad quos stupescunt multi insensatorum, quasi plus aliquid ipsa veritate ab eis possent discere? Et illud quod scriptum est, Quaerite, et invenietis, ad hoc dictum esse interpretantur, uti super Demiurgum semetipsos adinveniant, majores et meliores vocantes semetipsos quam Deum, et semetipsos spiritales, Demiurgum autem animalem: et propter hoc, superascendere eos super Deum: et se quidem intra Pleroma cedere, Deum autem in medietatis loco. Ab operibus itaque ostendant semetipsos Demiurgo meliores; non enim in eo quod dicitur, sed in eo quod est, melior ostendi debet.

For the better must be shown by works. From what, then, do they show themselves better than the Demiurge (that we too, from the necessity of the argument, may stoop to impiety by comparing God with madmen, and descending into their argumentation, often refuting them by their own doctrines — but may God be merciful to us, for we say these things not comparing them with him, but refuting and overturning their madness), they at whom many senseless people marvel, as though they could learn from them something more than the truth itself? And the saying that is written, “Seek, and you will find,” they interpret as said to this end, that they might find themselves above the Demiurge, calling themselves greater and better than God, themselves spiritual and the Demiurge animal; and for this reason they say that they ascend above God, and that they pass within the Pleroma while God remains in the place of the Middle. Let them show by works, then, that they are better than the Demiurge; for the better must be shown not by what is said but by what is.

Matt 7:7 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Let the heretics who claim to be better than the Creator prove it by their works, not by words.

  • The quotation is Matt 7:7. A margin reference at the end of the digital text is removed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; margin reference; stray letter; stray marks): &epe → saepe; dicimus h:ec) → dicimus haec); discere? $. Et illud → discere? Et illud; ad hoc v dictum → ad hoc dictum; Ps. cui. 2, 4. → .

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Irenaeus, Haer. 2.30.2 (Harvey 1:292; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/irenaeus-adversus-haereses/2-30-1/#p-2-30-2).

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the ancient Latin translation as printed by Harvey (Cambridge, 1857), from the OCR of the printed edition with slips corrected as logged, in Massuet's section numbering; lines lost in the scan supplied from Stieren's edition (1848–53) where noted; each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation in ANF 1 (1885).

2.30.3Harvey 1:292

Quod igitur opus monstrabunt per semetipsos a Salvatore, sive a Matre ipsorum factum, aut majus, aut splendidius, aut rationabilius his que facta sunt ab hoc, qui haec omnia disposuit? Quos coelos firmaverunt? quam terram solidaverunt? quas emiserunt stellas? vel quae luminaria elucidaverunt? quibus autem circulis infraenaverunt ea? vel quas pluvias, vel frigora, vel nives, secundum tempus, et secundum unamquamque regionem aptabilia, adduxerunt terrae? Quem autem calorem et siccitatem e contrario apposuerunt eis? aut que flumina abundare fecerunt? quos autem eduxerunt fontes? quibus autem floribus et arboribus adornaverunt eam quze est sub colo? vel quam multitudinem animalium formaverunt, partim quidem rationabilium, partim autem irrationabilium, universorum forma ornatorum? Et reliqua omnia quz per virtutem Dei sunt constituta, et sapientia ejus gubernantur, quis poterit per singula enumerare, vel investigare magnitudinem sapientie ejus, qui fecit, Dei? Quid autem illa que super coelum, et quae non praetereunt, quanta sunt, Angeli, Archangeli, Throni, Dominationes, Potestates innumerabiles? Adversus quod igitur unum opus ex his semetipsos e contrario constituunt? Quid tale ostendere habent per semetipsos, vel a semetipsis factum, quando et ipsi hujus factura et plasmatio sint? Sive enim Salvator, sive Mater ipsorum (ut propria ipsorum dicamus, per sua ipsorum propria mendaces eos arguentes) usa est hoc, ut dicunt, ad faciendam imaginem eorum qu:e intra Pleroma sunt, et contemplationis universae quam vidit circa Salvatorem; tanquam meliore hoc, et aptabiliore ad faciendam voluntatem suam per eum, usa est: tantorum enim imagines nequaquam per inferiorem, sed per meliorem deformavit.

What work, then, will they point to as made through them by the Savior or by their Mother, greater, more splendid, or more reasonable than the things made by him who arranged all these? What heavens have they established? What earth have they made firm? What stars have they sent forth? What luminaries have they made to shine? In what orbits have they bridled them? Or what rains, frosts, or snows, suited to each season and each region, have they brought upon the earth? And what heat and drought have they set against them in turn? What rivers have they made to overflow? What springs have they brought forth? With what flowers and trees have they adorned the world under heaven? Or what multitude of living creatures have they formed, some rational and some irrational, all adorned with beauty? And who could enumerate one by one all the other things established by the power of God and governed by his wisdom, or search out the greatness of the wisdom of God who made them? And what of the things above heaven, which do not pass away, how great they are: angels, archangels, thrones, dominions, powers without number? Against which one of these works, then, do they set themselves up? What such thing can they show done through themselves or by themselves, when they themselves are his work and formation? For whether it was the Savior or their Mother (to use their own terms, refuting them as liars by their own terms) who used him, as they say, to make an image of the things within the Pleroma and of the whole vision she saw around the Savior, she used him as better and more suited to accomplishing her will through him; for she did not fashion the images of such great things through an inferior but through a better one.

Col 1:16 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 11:33 (echo, low confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The heretics can point to no work of their own to compare with the Creator's heavens, earth, and creatures.

  • Angels, archangels, thrones, dominions, powers: Col 1:16; Eph 1:21.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; margin debris; margin debris inside a word; stray mark; stray mark; OCR; stray marks): qui hee omnia disposuit Quos ecelos → qui haec omnia disposuit? Quos coelos; emiserunt 11.1.2. stellas → emiserunt stellas; vel quz luminaria → vel quae luminaria; circulis inGR. IE un. fraenaverunt → circulis infraenaverunt; secundum **** tempus → secundum tempus; terrae?* → terrae?; fontes? ˆ quibus → fontes? quibus; quidein → quidem; et * contemplationis universe: → et contemplationis universae; per meliorem " deformavit → per meliorem deformavit.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Irenaeus, Haer. 2.30.3 (Harvey 1:292; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/irenaeus-adversus-haereses/2-30-1/#p-2-30-3).

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the ancient Latin translation as printed by Harvey (Cambridge, 1857), from the OCR of the printed edition with slips corrected as logged, in Massuet's section numbering; lines lost in the scan supplied from Stieren's edition (1848–53) where noted; each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation in ANF 1 (1885).

2.30.4Harvey 1:292

Erant enim et ipsi tunc, sicut ipsi dicunt, exsistentes conceptio spiritalis secundum contemplationem eorum qui erga Pandoram sunt satellites dispositi. Et hi quidem vacui perseverabant, nihil per eos perficiente Matre; vel per Salvatorem inutilis conceptio, et ad nihilum apta, nihil enim per eos apparet factum. Qui autem emissus est secundum eos Deus, inferior ipsis exsistens secundum argumentationem eorum, animalem enim eum esse volunt, in omnia operator, et efficax, et aptabilis fuit, uti per eum omnium imagines fierent: et non tantum que videntur hee, sed et invisibilia, Angeli, Archangeli, Dominationes, Potestates, et Virtutes, per hunc omnia facta sunt, videlicet velut per meliorem, et qui possit voluntati deservire. Nihil autem per hos Matrem apparet fecisse, quemadmodum et ipsi confitentur; uti juste quis aestimet eos abortum fuisse male parientis Matris ipsorum, Non enim obstetrices eam obstetricaverunt, et propterea velut abortum projecti sunt, in nihilum utiles, ad nullum opus facti Matri. Et semet meliores vocant eo per quem tanta et talia facta sunt et disposita, quando et per suam argumentationem perquam inferiores multum inveniuntur.

For they themselves, as they say, were then in existence as a spiritual conception after the vision of those who are set as attendants around Pandora. And they remained idle, the Mother accomplishing nothing through them — or, through the Savior, a useless conception, fit for nothing; for nothing appears to have been made through them. But the God who according to them was emitted, though inferior to them by their argument (for they will have him to be animal), was the worker of all things, effective and fit, so that the images of all things came to be through him; and not only these visible things but also the invisible ones, angels, archangels, dominions, powers, and virtues: all were made through him, evidently as through a better one, able to serve her will. But the Mother appears to have made nothing through them, as they themselves confess; so that one may justly consider them the miscarriage of their Mother, who gave birth badly. For no midwives delivered her, and therefore they were cast out like a miscarriage, useless for anything, made for no work of their Mother. And they call themselves better than him through whom so many and such great things were made and arranged, when even by their own argument they are found far inferior.

Notes and citation

Summary: The spiritual seed the heretics claim to be made nothing; the Creator they despise made all things, so by their own logic he is the greater.

  • “Pandora” is the reading of the text; elsewhere in the system the vision is of the angels attending the Savior.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; margin debris; running head; stray marks): Salvatorem LIB; 4 inutilis → Salvatorem inutilis; apparet MASSIL factum → apparet factum; inferior — — —— ipsis → inferior ipsis; quis:estimet → quis aestimet.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Irenaeus, Haer. 2.30.4 (Harvey 1:292; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/irenaeus-adversus-haereses/2-30-1/#p-2-30-4).

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the ancient Latin translation as printed by Harvey (Cambridge, 1857), from the OCR of the printed edition with slips corrected as logged, in Massuet's section numbering; lines lost in the scan supplied from Stieren's edition (1848–53) where noted; each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation in ANF 1 (1885).

2.30.5Harvey 1:292

Ac velut duo ferramenta operaria, vel organa duo cum sint, ex quibus alterum quidem semper in manibus et in usu artifex habeat, et per illud faciat quanta velit, et ostendat artem et sapientiam suam; alterum autem vacuum atque otiosum perseveret, et sine operatione, per quod nihil omnino apparet faciens artifex, et in nullam actionem eo utens: deinde dicat quis inutile hoc et vacuum atque otiosum melius esse et pluris illo quo utitur in opere, per quod et glorificatur ipse artifex: hic igitur hebes esse juste arbitrabitur qui sit talis, et mentis suae non compos. Sic autem et hi, semet spiritales et meliores dicentes, et Demiurgum animalem, et propter hoc superascendere, et intra Pleroma penetrare ad viros suos, sunt enim foeminae quemadmodum ipsi confitentur, Deum autem inferiorem et propter hoc manere in medietate, et hujus nullam ostensionem afferentes: qui enim melior est, ex operibus ostenditur: omnia enim opera a Demiurgo facta sunt; per semetipsos autem nihil dignum ratione factum ostendere habentes, insani sunt summa et insanabili insania.

It is as if there were two working tools or two instruments, one of which the artist always has in his hands and in use, and through it makes whatever he wishes and displays his art and wisdom, while the other remains idle, unused, and without operation, the artist plainly making nothing at all through it and using it for no action; and then someone were to say that this useless, idle, unused one was better and of more worth than the one he uses in his work, through which the artist himself is glorified: such a person would justly be judged dull and not in his right mind. So too these people, who call themselves spiritual and better and the Demiurge animal, and say that for this reason they ascend and penetrate within the Pleroma to their husbands (for they are females, as they themselves confess), while God, being inferior, remains for this reason in the Middle — and who bring no proof of this, for he who is better is shown by works, and all the works were made by the Demiurge, while they can show nothing worthy of reason made through themselves — are mad with the utmost and incurable madness.

Notes and citation

Summary: Preferring an idle tool to the one the artist uses is folly; so is preferring the heretics to the Creator who made all things.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; footnote mark; stray mark): hic igitur? hebes → hic igitur hebes; mentis sux → mentis suae; insania. δ. → insania..

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Irenaeus, Haer. 2.30.5 (Harvey 1:292; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/irenaeus-adversus-haereses/2-30-1/#p-2-30-5).

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the ancient Latin translation as printed by Harvey (Cambridge, 1857), from the OCR of the printed edition with slips corrected as logged, in Massuet's section numbering; lines lost in the scan supplied from Stieren's edition (1848–53) where noted; each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation in ANF 1 (1885).

2.30.6Harvey 1:292

Si autem contenderint dicere, quoniam quaecunque sunt quidem materialia, ut puta colum, et universus qui infra continetur mundus, a Demiurgo facta sunt; quotquot autem spiritaliora his, illa que sunt super ccelum, ut puta Principia, Potestates, Angeli, Archangeli, Dominationes, Virtutes, per spiritalem enixionem, quod semetipsos esse dicunt, facta sunt: primo quidem ex dominicis Scripturis ostendimus, omnia quae praedicta sunt, visibilia et invisibilia, ab uno Deo facta. Non enim sunt magis idonei hi quam Scripture: nec relinquentes nos eloquia Domini, et Moysem, et reliquos prophetas, qui veritatem praeconaverunt, his credere oportet, sanum quidem nihil dicentibus, instabilia autem delirantibus. Deinde etiam si per ipsos ea quz sunt super coelos, facta sunt; dicant nobis, quz sit invisibilium natura, enarrent numerum Angelorum, et ordinem Archangelorum, demonstrent Thronorum sacramenta, et doceant diversitates Dominationum, Principatuum, et Potestatum atque Virtutum. Sed non habent dicere: non ergo per eos facta sunt. Si autem a Demiurgo facta sunt hee, sicut et facta sunt, et sunt spiritalia et sancta; non est ergo animalis hic qui spiritalia perfecit, et soluta est illorum magna blasphemia.

But if they insist on saying that whatever things are material, such as the heaven and the whole world contained beneath it, were made by the Demiurge, but whatever things are more spiritual than these, the things above heaven, such as principalities, powers, angels, archangels, dominions, and virtues, were made through the spiritual offspring, which they say they themselves are: first, we have shown from the Lord's Scriptures that all the things mentioned, visible and invisible, were made by one God. For these people are not more trustworthy than the Scriptures; nor ought we to abandon the oracles of the Lord, of Moses, and of the other prophets who proclaimed the truth, and believe these men, who say nothing sound but rave unstable things. Then, even if the things above the heavens were made through them, let them tell us what the nature of the invisible things is, recount the number of the angels and the order of the archangels, show the mysteries of the thrones, and teach the differences between dominions, principalities, powers, and virtues. But they cannot say; therefore these things were not made through them. But if these were made by the Demiurge, as indeed they were, and they are spiritual and holy, then he who made spiritual things is not animal, and their great blasphemy is undone.

Col 1:16 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Scripture teaches that one God made things visible and invisible; the heretics cannot even describe the heavenly powers they claim to have made.

  • Visible and invisible, thrones, dominions, principalities, powers: Col 1:16.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; margin debris; running head inside a word): infra 65 continetur → infra continetur; per spiL1B. IL xlvi. es. ritalem enixionem → per spiritalem enixionem; facta sunt: GR OR ἢ liv. primo → facta sunt: primo; omnia quie praedicta → omnia quae praedicta.

Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Irenaeus, Haer. 2.30.6 (Harvey 1:292; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/irenaeus-adversus-haereses/2-30-1/#p-2-30-6).

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the ancient Latin translation as printed by Harvey (Cambridge, 1857), from the OCR of the printed edition with slips corrected as logged, in Massuet's section numbering; lines lost in the scan supplied from Stieren's edition (1848–53) where noted; each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation in ANF 1 (1885).

2.30.7Harvey 1:292

Quoniam enim sunt in colis spiritales conditiones, universae clamant Scripturae, et Paulus autem testimonium perhibet, quoniam sunt spiritalia, usque ad tertium coelum raptum se esse significans, et rursum, delatum esse in paradisum et audisse verba inenarrabilia, quae non licet homini loqui. Et quid illi prodest, aut in paradisum introitus, aut usque in tertium collum assumtio, cum sint omnia illa sub potestate Demiurgi, si eorum quae super Demiurgum dicuntur mysteriorum speculator et auditor inciperet fieri, quemadmodum audent quidam dicere? Si enim uti eam que quze sunt Demiurgi remansisset, ne ipsa quidem universa perspeculatus, (restabat enim ei adhuc secundum illorum sermonem quartum coelum, uti appropinquaret Demiurgo, et subjectam septenationem videret), sed reciperetur fortasse vel usque ad medietatem, id est ad Matrem, uti ab ea disceret que sunt intra Pleroma. Poterat enim qui est intus homo ejus, qui et loquebatur in eo, invisibilis exsistens, quemadmodum dicunt, non tantum usque ad tertium ccelum, sed et usque ad Matrem illorum pervenire. Si enim se, hoc est ipsorum hominem, statim supergredi dicunt Demiurgum, et abire ad Matrem, multo magis utique Apostoli homini hoc evenisset: nec enim prohibuisset illum Demiurgus, jam et ipse subjectus Salvatori, ut dicunt. Si autem et prohibuisset, nihil profecisset; non enim possibile est eum Patris providentia fortiorem esse, et hee cum interior homo invisibilis etiam a Demiurgo esse dicatur. Quoniam autem ille velut magnum aliquid et praeclarum, eam quz fuit usque ad tertium ccelum assumtionem enarravit, non utique isti super septimum ccelum ascendunt: non enim sunt meliores Apostolo. Si seipsos dicant differentiores, ex operibus arguentur: nihil enim ab illis tale jactitatum est. Et propter hoc adjecit: Sive in corpore, sive extra corpus, Deus scit: uti neque corpus non particeps putaretur esse visionis ejus, quippe quasi et ipsum participaturum eorum quze vidisset, et audisset: nec rursus propter pondus corporis dicat quis eum amplius non esse assumtum, sed ideo usque illuc permittatur etiam sine corpore sacramenta perspicere spiritalia, quae sunt Dei operationes, qui fecit coelos et terram, et plasmavit hominem, et posuit in paradiso, speculatores fieri eos, qui similiter ut Apostolus valde sunt perfecti in dilectione Dei.

For that there are spiritual creations in the heavens, all the Scriptures proclaim; and Paul too bears witness that there are spiritual things, indicating that he was caught up to the third heaven, and again that he was carried into paradise and heard unspeakable words which it is not permitted for a man to speak. But what did it profit him, either his entrance into paradise or his being taken up to the third heaven, since all those things are under the power of the Demiurge, if he was beginning to become a beholder and hearer of the mysteries said to be above the Demiurge, as some dare to say? For if he was learning what is above the Demiurge, he would not have stayed in the regions of the Demiurge, and that without even surveying them wholly (for, by their account, the fourth heaven still remained for him, if he was to approach the Demiurge and see the sevenfold order beneath him); but he would perhaps have been received even as far as the Middle, that is, to the Mother, to learn from her the things within the Pleroma. For his inner man, which also spoke in him, being invisible, as they say, could have reached not only the third heaven but even their Mother. For if they say that they themselves, that is, their own man, at once pass beyond the Demiurge and go off to the Mother, much more would this have happened to the man of the Apostle; for the Demiurge would not have prevented him, since, as they say, he is himself already subject to the Savior. And if he had tried to prevent him, it would have been to no purpose; for he cannot be stronger than the providence of the Father, and that when the inner man is said to be invisible even to the Demiurge. But since the Apostle recounted his being taken up as far as the third heaven as something great and splendid, these people certainly do not ascend above the seventh heaven; for they are not better than the Apostle. If they say they are superior, they will be refuted by their works; for they have boasted of nothing of the kind. And for this reason he added, “Whether in the body or out of the body, God knows”: so that the body might not be thought to share in that vision, as if it too were to share in what he had seen and heard; nor again might anyone say that he was not taken up higher because of the weight of the body. Rather, so far it is permitted, even without the body, to behold spiritual mysteries, which are the works of God, who made the heavens and the earth, formed man, and placed him in paradise, so that those may become beholders of them who, like the Apostle, are very perfect in the love of God.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

2 Cor 12:2–4 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 2:8 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Paul's rapture only to the third heaven shows that the heretics, who claim to rise above the seventh, are boasting falsely.

  • Harvey's chapter title at the start of the section is removed, and a fragment of his footnote inside the text. The clause “For if … he would not have stayed in the regions of the Demiurge” is garbled in the digital text and translated by sense. The Latin of the purpose clause about the body has a double negative; it is translated by sense. Words lost in the scan of Harvey's edition are supplied from Stieren's edition. References: 2 Cor 12:2–4; Gen 2:8.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR; margin reference; editor's chapter title; OCR; editor's footnote; footnote mark; footnote number; OCR; margin debris; stray mark): De assumtione Apostoli «usque ad tertium colum; et cur dixit, swe in corpore, sive extra corpus: necnon, ostensio quod non sit animalis Demiurgus. QvoniamM enim → Quoniam enim; universse clamant Scriptura → universae clamant Scripturae; tertium collum raptum se esse sco xii. s, significans Set rursum → tertium coelum raptum se esse significans, et rursum; quze non licet → quae non licet; eorum qus super → eorum quae super; quidem.universa → quidem universa; subjectam * quartum colum, i.e. reckoning balance entire hebdomad. septenationem → subjectam septenationem; usque ad iv. medietatem → usque ad medietatem; Demiurguin → Demiurgum; utique? Apostoli → utique Apostoli; ut dieunt → ut dicunt; Ets» propter → Et propter; Sice in corpore → Sive in corpore; 5Deus scit: Suti neque → Deus scit: uti neque.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Irenaeus, Haer. 2.30.7 (Harvey 1:292; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/irenaeus-adversus-haereses/2-30-1/#p-2-30-7).

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2.30.8Harvey 1:292

Et spiritalia itaque hic fecit, quorum usque ad tertium coelum speculator factus est Apostolus: et inenarrabiles sermones, quos non licet homini loqui, quoniam sint spiritales, et ipse hic praestat dignis, quemadmodum vult, hujus enim est paradisus: et vere est spiritus Dei, sed non animalis Demiurgus, alioquin nunquam spiritalia perfecisset. Si autem animalis hic, per quem facta sunt spiritalia, referant nobis. Sed neque [per] enixionem Matris suae, quod semetipsos esse dicunt, factum esse quid ostendere habent. Hi enim non tantum aliquid de spiritalibus, sed ne quidem muscam, aut culicem, aut tale aliquid ex his quie sunt contemtibilia animalia pusilla perficere possunt, praeter eam rationem, quz ab initio a Deo per seminum demissionem in his quie sunt ejusdem generis, naturaliter facta sunt, atque fiunt animalia. Sed ne quidem a sola Matre factum aliquid; dicunt emissum hunc Demiurgum, et Dominum universae operationis. Et eum quidem, qui sit universe operationis Demiurgus et Dominus, animalem esse dicunt, se autem spiritales, qui nullius operationis fabricatores sunt aut domini, non solum eorum quae sunt extra eos, sed ne quidem corporum suorum. Multa denique saepe secundum corpus patiuntur nolentes, vocantes se spiritales et meliores Demiurgo.

This one, therefore, also made the spiritual things, of which the Apostle became a beholder as far as the third heaven, and the unspeakable words which it is not permitted for a man to speak, since they are spiritual; and he himself grants them to the worthy as he wills, for paradise is his; and he is truly the Spirit of God, and not an animal Demiurge; otherwise he would never have made spiritual things. But if he is animal, let them tell us by whom the spiritual things were made. Nor can they show that anything was made through the offspring of their Mother, which they say they themselves are. For they cannot make not only anything spiritual, but not even a fly or a gnat or any such small and contemptible creature, except by the way in which, from the beginning, living creatures have been and are produced naturally by God through the sowing of seed in those of the same kind. Nor was anything made by the Mother alone; they say that this Demiurge was emitted by her and is Lord of all the work. And him who is Demiurge and Lord of all the work they call animal, but themselves spiritual — they who are makers or lords of no work, not only of things outside them but not even of their own bodies. Indeed, they often suffer many things in the body against their will, though they call themselves spiritual and better than the Demiurge.

2 Cor 12:4 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The Creator made the spiritual things Paul saw; the heretics, who cannot make even a gnat, are no spiritual makers.

  • The words in brackets are supplied by Harvey.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; stray mark; stray mark; OCR): usyue ad tertium ecelum → usque ad tertium coelum; pristat → praestat; perfecissct → perfecisset; neque ! [per] enixionem Matris suse → neque [per] enixionem Matris suae; cjusdem → ejusdem; Dominum univers:e operationis → Dominum universae operationis; eum «quidem → eum quidem; eorum qu:e sunt extra → eorum quae sunt extra; den:que &epe → denique saepe.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Irenaeus, Haer. 2.30.8 (Harvey 1:292; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/irenaeus-adversus-haereses/2-30-1/#p-2-30-8).

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2.30.9Harvey 1:292

Juste igitur a nobis arguentur porro et longe divertisse a veritate. Sive enim per hunc, quae facta sunt, fecit Salvator; non inferior ipsis, sed melior esse ostenditur, quando et horum ipsorum invenitur factor: nam et ipsi sunt ex his quae facta sunt. Quomodo itaque consequens est, hos quidem spiritales esse, hunc autem ipsum per quem et facti sunt, animalem? Sive, (quod et solum est verum, quod et per plurima ostendimus, velut liquidissimis ostensionibus), ipse a semetipso fecit libere et ex sua potestate, et disposuit, et perfecit omnia, et est substantia omnium voluntas ejus; solus hic Deus invenitur, qui omnia fecit, solus omnipotens, et solus Pater condens et faciens omnia, et visibilia, et invisibilia, et sensibilia, et insensata, et coelestia, et terrena, Verbo virtutis suae; et omnia aptavit et disposuit sapientia sua, et omnia capiens, solus autem a nemine capi potest: ipse fabricator, ipse conditor, ipse inventor, ipse factor, ipse Dominus omnium: et neque preter ipsum, neque super ipsum, neque Mater, quam illi admentiuntur; nec Deus alter, quem Marcion affinxit; nec Pleroma xxx Aeonum, quod vanum ostensum est; neque Bythus, nec Proarche; neque coeli; nec lumen virginale, nec Aeon innominabilis, nec in totum quidquam eorum, quz ab his, et ab omnibus haereticis delirantur. Sed solus unus Deus fabricator, hic qui est super omnem principalitatem, et potestatem, et dominationem, et virtutem: hic Pater, hic Deus, hic conditor, hic factor, hic fabricator, qui fecit ea per semetipsum, hoc est per Verbum et per Sapientiam suam, ccelum et terram, et maria, et omnia que in eis sunt: hic justus, hic bonus: hic est qui formavit hominem, qui plantavit paradisum, qui fabricavit mundum, qui diluvium induxit, qui Noé salvavit: hic Deus Abraham, et Deus Isaac, et Deus Jacob, Deus vivorum, quem et lex annuntiat, quem Prophetae praeconant, quem Christus revelat, quem Apostoli tradunt, quem Ecclesia credit. Hic Pater Domini nostri Jesu Christi, per Verbum suum, qui est Filius ejus, per eum revelatur et manifestatur omnibus, quibus revelatur: cognoscunt enim eum hi, quibus revelaverit Filius. Semper autem coéxsistens Filius Patri, olim et ab initio semper revelat Patrem, et Angelis, et Archangelis, et Potestatibus, et Virtutibus, et omnibus, quibus vult revelare Deus.

Justly, then, are they refuted by us as having strayed far away from the truth. For if the Savior made through this one the things that were made, he is shown to be not inferior to them but better, since he is found to be the maker of these very people; for they too are among the things that were made. How, then, does it follow that they are spiritual, while he through whom they were made is animal? Or if (which alone is true, as we have shown by very many and very clear proofs) he of himself, freely and by his own power, made, arranged, and completed all things, and his will is the substance of all things, then he alone is found to be God, who made all things, alone almighty, and alone Father, founding and making all things, visible and invisible, perceptible and imperceptible, heavenly and earthly, by the Word of his power; and he fitted and arranged all things by his wisdom, and contains all things, but he alone can be contained by no one. He is the fashioner, he the founder, he the discoverer, he the maker, he the Lord of all; and there is none besides him or above him: neither the Mother whom they falsely ascribe to him, nor another God, whom Marcion invented, nor a Pleroma of thirty Aeons, which has been shown to be empty, nor Bythus, nor Proarche, nor their heavens, nor the virginal light, nor the unnameable Aeon, nor anything at all of the things raved about by these and by all the heretics. But there is one only God, the fashioner, he who is above every principality, power, dominion, and virtue: he is Father, he is God, he founder, he maker, he fashioner, who made these things by himself, that is, by his Word and his Wisdom, the heaven and the earth and the seas and all that is in them. He is just, he is good; he it is who formed man, planted paradise, fashioned the world, brought the flood, and saved Noah; he is the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, the God of the living, whom the law announces, the prophets proclaim, Christ reveals, the apostles hand down, and the church believes. He is the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ: through his Word, who is his Son, through him he is revealed and made manifest to all to whom he is revealed; for those know him to whom the Son has revealed him. And the Son, always coexisting with the Father, of old and from the beginning always reveals the Father to angels, archangels, powers, virtues, and all to whom God wills to reveal him.

Heb 1:3 (quotation, medium confidence) · Eph 1:21 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 20:11 (allusion, medium confidence) · Gen 2:7 (allusion, medium confidence) · Gen 2:8 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 22:32 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 3:6 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 11:27 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: There is one God, Creator and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, revealed through his Son, and no Pleroma or second God.

  • The Word and Wisdom (the Son and the Spirit, in Irenaeus's usage) and the eternal coexistence of the Son are translated as written. At the end the digital text carries Harvey's marginal suggestion “l. revelari” (“to be revealed”), removed here. References: Heb 1:3; Eph 1:21; Exod 20:11; Gen 2:7–8; Gen 6–9; Matt 22:32 (Exod 3:6); Matt 11:27.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; editor's marginal reading; split word; split word; stray number; stray mark; stray marks): Sive enim per hunc, qua facta → Sive enim per hunc, quae facta; ex his qu:e facta → ex his quae facta; invenitur, *. qui omnia → invenitur, qui omnia; Verbo virtutis sum; → Verbo virtutis suae;; xxx /Eonum → xxx Aeonum; Acon innominabilis → Aeon innominabilis; quid6. quam → quidquam; per * Verbum → per Verbum; A postoli → Apostoli; revelare [ f.. revelari] Deus → revelare Deus.

Topics: Trinity, Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Irenaeus, Haer. 2.30.9 (Harvey 1:292; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/irenaeus-adversus-haereses/2-30-1/#p-2-30-9).

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Against 2, chapter 31

2.31.1Harvey 1:292

Destructis itaque his qui a Valentino sunt, omnis haereticorum eversa est multitudo. Quze enim et quantum adversus Pleroma ipsorum et ad ea que extra sunt diximus, ostendentes quoniam concludetur et circumscribetur Pater universorum ab eo quod extra eum est, (si tamen extra eum aliquid sit); et quoniam necesse est multos quidem Patres, multa autem Pleromata, et multas mundorum fabricationes, ab aliis quidem caeptas ad alteras autem deficientes, esse secundum omnem partem; et universos perseverantes in suis propriis, non curiose agere de aliis, in quibus neque participatio, neque communio aliqua est eis; et nullum alium omnium esse Deum, sed solam esse omnipotentis appellationem: et adversus eos qui sunt a Marcione, et Simone, et Menandro, vel quicunque alii sunt, qui similiter dividunt eam quae secundum nos est conditionem a Patre, similiter erit ad eos aptatum. Quanta autem rursus diximus adversus eos, qui dicunt omnia quidem comprehendere Patrem universorum; eam autem que sit secundum nos conditionem non ab eo esse factam, sed a Virtute quadam altera; vel ab Angelis ignorantibus Propatorem, in immensa magnitudine universitatis circumscriptum centri vice, velut maculam in pallio; ostendentes quoniam non est verisimile alium quemdam eam que secundum nos est conditionem fecisse quam Patrem universorum; et adversus eos qui sunt a Saturnino, et a Basilide, et Carpocrate, et reliquos Gnosticorum, qui eadem similiter dicunt, idem dicetur. Quse autem de prolationibus dicta sunt, et Aeonibus, et deminoratione, et quemadmodum instabilis Mater ipsorum, similiter evertit Basilidem, et omnes qui falso cognominantur agnitores, aliis nominibus eadem similiter dicentes; magis autem quam hi qui ea quae sunt extra veritatem transferentes ad characterem suae doctrinae. Et quiecunque sunt que de numeris diximus, adversus omnes, qui in hujusmodi speciem deducunt quie sunt veritatis, et dicentur. Et quaecunque dicta sunt de Demiurgo, ostendentia quod hic solus est Deus et Pater universorum; et quaecunque adhuc dicentur in sequentibus libris, adversus omnes dico haereticos; eos quidem qui sunt mitiores eorum et humaniores avertes et confundes, ut non blasphement suum conditorem, et factorem, et nutritorem, et Dominum, neque de labe et ignorantia genesin ejus affingere: feroces autem, et horribiles, et irrationabiles effugabis a te longe, ne amplius sustineas verbositates eorum.

So, with the followers of Valentinus destroyed, the whole multitude of heretics is overthrown. For all that we have said against their Pleroma and concerning the things outside it — showing that the Father of all would be enclosed and circumscribed by what is outside him (if indeed there is anything outside him); that there would then necessarily be many Fathers, many Pleromas, and many fabrications of worlds on every side, beginning from some and ending at others; that all of them, remaining in their own domains, would not concern themselves with the others, in whom they have no share or fellowship at all; and that none would be God of all, the title “Almighty” being a mere name — all this will likewise fit against the followers of Marcion, Simon, and Menander, or whoever else in the same way divides from the Father the creation to which we belong. And all that we said, again, against those who say that the Father of all contains all things, but that the creation to which we belong was made not by him but by some other Power, or by angels ignorant of the Propator, circumscribed like a center in the immense greatness of the universe, like a stain on a cloak — when we showed that it is not probable that anyone other than the Father of all made the creation to which we belong — the same will be said against the followers of Saturninus, Basilides, Carpocrates, and the rest of the Gnostics, who say the same things in a similar way. What has been said about the emissions, the Aeons, the diminution, and the instability of their Mother likewise overthrows Basilides and all who are falsely called Gnostics, who say the same things under other names, but even more than these transfer things foreign to the truth to the pattern of their own doctrine. And whatever we said about numbers will also be said against all who bend the things of the truth to such a form. And whatever has been said about the Demiurge, showing that he alone is God and Father of all, and whatever will yet be said in the following books, I say against all heretics. The milder and more humane among them you will turn back and put to shame, so that they no longer blaspheme their Founder, Maker, Nourisher, and Lord, nor invent his origin from defect and ignorance; but the fierce, frightful, and irrational you will drive far from you, so as no longer to endure their wordiness.

1 Tim 6:20 (echo, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The arguments against Valentinus overthrow all the other heresies too, from Marcion and Simon to Basilides and the Gnostics.

  • Harvey's chapter title at the start of the section is removed. “Falsely called” echoes 1 Tim 6:20.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; editor's chapter title; footnote mark; footnote number; OCR): Quomodo ea que adversus Valentinum dicuntur, omnem evertunt heresin. Destructis → Destructis; cireumscribetur → circumscribetur; fabricationes, ! ab aliis → fabricationes, ab aliis; eam quce secundum nos → eam quae secundum nos; cireumscriptum → circumscriptum; /Eonibus → Aeonibus; hi 5qui ea qus sunt → hi qui ea quae sunt; ad. characterem suze → ad characterem suae; qui:ecunque adhuc → quaecunque adhuc; omnes dico h:ereticos → omnes dico haereticos; humaniores Javertes → humaniores avertes.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Irenaeus, Haer. 2.31.1 (Harvey 1:292; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/irenaeus-adversus-haereses/2-30-1/#p-2-31-1).

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2.31.2Harvey 1:292

Super haec arguentur qui sunt a Simone, et Carpocrate, et si qui alii virtutes operari dicuntur: non in virtute Dei, neque in veritate, neque in beneficiis hominibus facientes ea que faciunt; sed in perniciem et errorem, per magicas elusiones et universa fraude, plus ledentes quam utilitatem praestantes his, qui credunt eis, in eo quod seducant. Nec enim caecis possunt donare visum, neque surdis auditum, neque omnes daemones effugare, praeter eos qui ab ipsis immittuntur, si tamen et hoc faciunt; neque debiles, aut claudos, aut paralyticos curare, vel alia quadam parte corporis vexatos, quemadmodum saepe evenit fieri secundum corporalem infirmitatem; vel earum quz a foris accidunt infirmitatum bonas valetudines restaurare; tantum autem absunt ab eo ut mortuum excitent, quemadmodum Dominus excitavit, et Apostoli per orationem, et in fraternitate saepissime propter aliquid necessarium, ea que est in quoquo loco Ecclesia universa postulante per jejunium et supplicationem multam, reversus est spiritus mortui, et donatus est homo orationibus sanctorum, ut ne quidem credant hoc in totum posse fieri: esse autem resurrectionem a mortuis, agnitionem ejus quie ab eis dicitur, veritatis.

Moreover, the followers of Simon and Carpocrates are refuted by this, and any others who are said to work miracles: they do what they do not by the power of God, nor in truth, nor as benefits to people, but for ruin and error, through magical illusions and every kind of fraud, harming more than helping those who believe them, in that they lead them astray. For they cannot give sight to the blind or hearing to the deaf, nor drive out all demons — except those sent in by themselves, if they do even this — nor cure the weak, the lame, the paralyzed, or those afflicted in some other part of the body, as often happens through bodily infirmity, nor restore good health from infirmities that come from outside. And so far are they from raising the dead — as the Lord raised them, and the apostles by prayer, and as in the brotherhood very often, because of some necessity, when the whole church of the place asked with fasting and much supplication, the spirit of the dead man returned and the man was granted to the prayers of the saints — that they do not even believe this can happen at all, and hold that the resurrection from the dead is the knowledge of what they call the truth.

Notes and citation

Summary: The heretics' wonders are magical deceptions; they cannot heal or raise the dead, as the Lord, the apostles, and the church have done.

  • A long fragment of Harvey's footnotes at the end of the digital text, and stray figures before “raise”, are removed. The raising of the dead in the church through fasting and prayer is reported as Irenaeus states it.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; editor's footnotes; stray marks): priestantes → praestantes; cxcis → caecis; d:emones → daemones; mortuum ^ 4 4, 4 A 9 ^ 4 φ, excitent → mortuum excitent; veritatis. tion accepted, —....effugalis a te longe. ea εἰ confundes, has too marked a de Resurrect. (cap. 19). Resurrectionem m the protasis, eos quidem.... 3 Explicatius TEBTULLIANUS Libr. → veritatis..

Topics: Heresy, Prayer

Cite (SBL): Irenaeus, Haer. 2.31.2 (Harvey 1:292; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/irenaeus-adversus-haereses/2-30-1/#p-2-31-2).

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2.31.3Harvey 1:292

Quando igitur apud eos quidem error, et seductio, et magica phantasia in speculatu hominum impie fiat; in ecclesia autem miseratio, et misericordia, et firmitas, et veritas ad opitulationem hominum, non solum sine mercede et gratis perficiatur, sed et nobis ipsis que sunt nostra erogantibus pro salute hominum, et ea, quibus hi qui curantur indigent, sepissime non habentes, a nobis accipiunt: vere et per hanc speciem arguuntur a divina substantia, et benignitate Dei, et virtute spiritali in totum extranei; fraude autem universa, et adinspiratione apostatica, et operatione daemoniaca, et phantasmate idololatriae per omnia repleti, praecursores vero sunt draconis ejus, qui per hujusmodi phantasiam abscedere faciet in cauda tertiam partem stellarum, et dejiciet eas in terram: quos similiter atque illum devitare oportet, et quanto majore phantasmate operari dicuntur, tanto magis observare eos, quasi majorem nequitie spiritum perceperint. Quam prophetiam si observaverit quis, et eorum diurnam conversationis operationem, inveniet unam et eandem esse eis cum daemoniis conversationem.

Since, then, among them there is error and seduction, and magical illusion is impiously practised before the eyes of men, but in the Church compassion, mercy, steadfastness, and truth for the help of people are practised not only without fee and freely, but we ourselves even spend our own means for people's salvation, and those who are cured, very often lacking what they need, receive it from us: truly by this mark too they are proved to be wholly strangers to the divine nature, to the kindness of God, and to spiritual power, but filled in every way with every kind of fraud, apostate inspiration, demonic working, and the phantasms of idolatry. They are the forerunners of that dragon who by such a phantasm will make a third part of the stars fall away with his tail and will cast them to the earth. We must shun them as we shun him; and the greater the phantasms by which they are said to work, the more closely we must watch them, as having received a greater spirit of wickedness. If anyone observes this prophecy and the daily practice of their way of life, he will find that their way of life is one and the same as that of the demons.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Rev 12:4 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Unlike the church's free and compassionate healing, the heretics' deceptions mark them as forerunners of the dragon.

  • A running head at the start of the digital text is removed. Words lost in the scan of Harvey's edition are supplied from Stieren's edition. The dragon: Rev 12:4. “And” before “the daily practice” is supplied by Harvey.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; editor's marginal addition adopted; footnote mark; joined words; margin reference; running head and page number): INSPIRATIO DEMONIACA. 371 Quando → Quando; soluin → solum; per hane speciem → per hanc speciem; spiritaliin totum → spiritali in totum; et ! adinspiratione → et adinspiratione; dxmoniaca → daemoniaca; idololatrix → idololatriae; Sabscedere → abscedere; dejiciet Rev. xi. 4. eas → dejiciet eas; dieuntur → dicuntur; inagis → magis; [adj. et] eorum → et eorum.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Irenaeus, Haer. 2.31.3 (Harvey 1:292; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/irenaeus-adversus-haereses/2-30-1/#p-2-31-3).

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Against 2, chapter 32

2.32.1Harvey 1:292

Et haec autem quae est erga operationes impia ipsorum sententia, quse dicit oportere eos in omnibus operibus etiam quibuslibet malis fieri, ex Domini doctrina dissolvetur: apud quem et non solum qui mechatur, expellitur, sed et qui maechari vult: et non solum qui occidit, reus erit occisionis ad damnationem, sed et qui irascitur sine causa fratri suo: qui et non solum non odire homines, sed et inimicos diligere jussit: et non solum non pejerare, sed nec jurare precepit; et non solum [non] male loqui de proximis, sed ne quidem racha et fatuum dicere aliquem; si quo minus, reos esse hujusmodi in ignem gehennae: et non tantum non percutere, sed et ipsos percussos etiam alteram praestare maxillam: et non solum non abnegare quz sunt aliena, sed etiam si sua auferantur, illis non expostulare: et non solum non laedere proximos, neque facere quid eis malum, sed et eos qui male tractantur magnanimes esse, et benignitatem exercere erga eos, et orare pro eis, uti poenitentiam agentes salvari possint; in nullo imitantes nos reliquorum contumeliam, et libidinem, et superbiam. Quando igitur ille, quem isti magistrum gloriantur, et eum multo meliorem et fortiorem reliquis animam habuisse dicunt, cum magna diligentia quedam quidem jussit fieri quasi bona et egregia, quibusdam autem abstinere non solum operibus, sed etiam his cogitationibus quze ad opera ducunt, quasi malis et nocivis et nequam: quemadmodum magistrum dicentes talem fortiorem et meliorem reliquis, deinde quae sunt contraria ejus doctrine manifeste precipientes, non confundantur? Et si quidem nihil esset mali aut rursus boni, opinione autem sola humana, quaedam quidem injusta quedam autem justa putarentur, non utique dixisset dogmatizans, [id est docens:] Justi autem fulgebunt sicut sol in regno Patris eorum: injustos autem et qui non faciunt opera justitiae, mittet in ignem aeternum, ubi vermis ipsorum non morietur, et ignis non exstinguetur.

This impious opinion of theirs about conduct, which says that they must come to be in all works, even evil ones of any kind, is refuted by the teaching of the Lord. With him not only is the one who commits adultery cast out, but also the one who wishes to commit adultery; and not only will the one who kills be liable for the killing to condemnation, but also the one who is angry with his brother without cause. He commanded not only not to hate people but even to love enemies; and directed not only not to swear falsely but not even to swear; and not only not to speak evil of one's neighbors but not even to call anyone “Raca” and “fool,” otherwise such people are liable to the fire of Gehenna; and not only not to strike, but even when struck to offer the other cheek as well; and not only not to deny others what is theirs, but even if one's own things are taken away, not to demand them back; and not only not to harm one's neighbors or do them any evil, but even when ill-treated to be patient, to show kindness toward them, and to pray for them, so that by repenting they may be saved; so that we imitate in nothing the insolence, lust, and pride of others. Since, then, he whom these people boast of as their master, and of whom they say that he had a soul much better and stronger than the rest, commanded with great care that some things be done as good and excellent, and that one abstain from others, not only from the deeds but even from the thoughts that lead to the deeds, as evil, harmful, and wicked: how are they not put to shame, when they call such a master stronger and better than the rest, and then plainly prescribe things contrary to his teaching? And if there were nothing evil, or again good, but some things were thought unjust and others just by human opinion alone, he would certainly not have said in his teaching (dogmatizans, that is, teaching): “But the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father,” and that he will send the unrighteous, and those who do not do the works of righteousness, into eternal fire, where their worm will not die and the fire will not be quenched.

Matt 5:27–28 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 5:21–22 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 5:44 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 5:33–34 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 5:39–40 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 6:30 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 13:43 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 25:41 (allusion, high confidence) · Mark 9:48 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 66:24 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The Lord's commands, which forbid even evil thoughts, refute the heretics' claim that they must experience every kind of deed.

  • References: Matt 5:21–22, 27–28, 33–34, 39–40, 44; Luke 6:30; Matt 13:43; Matt 25:41; Mark 9:48 (Isa 66:24). The bracketed “not” before “speak evil” is supplied by Harvey; the gloss “that is, teaching” is in the text. The Carpocratian teaching (2.32 refers back to 1.25) is translated as reported.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; margin debris; margin reference; margin reference; OCR): h»c autem qux est → haec autem quae est; apud quem Matt v.21 et non solum → apud quem et non solum; maechari vult: et vi. non solum → maechari vult: et non solum; qu sunt contraria → quae sunt contraria; fulgelunt → fulgebunt; Patris Mat xxv 41. Corum → Patris eorum; ceternum → aeternum; tpsorum → ipsorum.

Topics: Ethics, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Irenaeus, Haer. 2.32.1 (Harvey 1:292; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/irenaeus-adversus-haereses/2-30-1/#p-2-32-1).

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the ancient Latin translation as printed by Harvey (Cambridge, 1857), from the OCR of the printed edition with slips corrected as logged, in Massuet's section numbering; lines lost in the scan supplied from Stieren's edition (1848–53) where noted; each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation in ANF 1 (1885).

2.32.2Harvey 1:292

Adhuc etiam dicentes, oportere eos in omni opere et in omni conversatione fieri, ut, si fieri possit, in una vite adventatione omnia perficientes ad perfectum transgrediantur; eorum quidem quze sunt ad virtutem pertinentia, et laboriosa et gloriosa et artificialia, quae etiam ab omnibus bona approbantur, nequaquam inveniuntur conati facere. Si enim oportet per omne opus, et per universam ire operationem; primo quidem oportebat omnes ediscere artes, quaecunque illae sive in sermonum rationibus, sive in operibus consumantur, sive per continentiam edocentur, et per laborem, et meditationem, et perseverantiam percipiuntur; ut puta omnem speciem Musicae, et Computationis, et Geometrie, et Astronomie, et universa quz in sermonum rationibus occupantur: adhuc etiam Medicinam universam, et herbarum scientiam, et eas quae ad salutem humanam sunt elaborate; et picturam, et statuarum fabricationem, et aerariam artem, et marmorariam, et similes his: ab his autem omnem speciem rusticationis, et veterinariae, et pastoralis, et opificum artes, quie dicuntur pertransire universas artes, et eas quae erga mare vacant, et corpori student, et venatorias, et militares, et regales, et quotquot sunt, quarum nec decimam, nec millesimam partem in tota vita sua elaborantes ediscere possunt. Et horum quidem nihil conantur addiscere, qui in omni dicunt semetipsos oportere fieri opere, ad voluptates autem et libidinem, et turpia facta devergentes, a semetipsis judicati cum sint secundum doctrinam suam; quoniam enim desunt eis quz praedicta sunt omnia, ad correptionem ignis adibunt. Qui quidem Epicuri philosophiam, et Cynicorum indifferentiam aemulantes, Jesum magistrum gloriantur, qui non solum a malis operibus avertit suos discipulos, sed etiam a sermonibus et cogitationibus, quemadmodum ostendimus.

Again, they say that they must come to be in every work and every way of life, so that, if possible, accomplishing everything in one sojourn of life, they may pass over to perfection; yet they are nowhere found attempting to do the things that belong to virtue, which are laborious, glorious, and skilled, and which all approve as good. For if one must go through every work and every activity, they ought first of all to learn all the arts, whatever they are, whether carried out in reasoning or in works, whether taught through self-restraint or acquired by labor, practice, and perseverance: for example, every kind of music, arithmetic, geometry, astronomy, and all that are occupied with reasoning; further, all of medicine, the knowledge of herbs, and the skills developed for human health; painting, sculpture, bronze-work, marble-work, and the like; and besides these every kind of farming, veterinary skill, herding, and the crafts of artisans, which are said to run through all the arts; those concerned with the sea, those devoted to bodily training, hunting, the military and royal arts, and as many others as there are — of which they could not learn a tenth or a thousandth part even if they labored their whole life. Yet they try to learn none of these, they who say they must come to be in every work; but turning aside to pleasures, lust, and shameful deeds, they are judged by themselves according to their own doctrine; for since they lack all the things mentioned, they will go to the chastisement of fire. Imitating the philosophy of Epicurus and the indifference of the Cynics, they boast of Jesus as their master, who turned his disciples away not only from evil works but even from words and thoughts, as we have shown.

Notes and citation

Summary: If they had to experience every work, they should learn every art; instead they pursue only pleasure and stand self-condemned.

  • Harvey's chapter title and a running head with page number inside the text are removed. The digital text reads a figure before semetipsis, taken as the preposition a (“by themselves”).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR; editor's chapter title; OCR; footnote mark; margin debris; running head inside a word; running head; page number; margin debris): Eversio Hereticorum omnium in us, quibus non communicant cum Valentino. Apnvc etiam → Adhuc etiam; oportebat A CIIRISTO ALIENANTUR. 373 omnes 186 ediscere → oportebat omnes ediscere; rationiLrB. 11. xiix. bus → rationibus; operibus? consumantur → operibus consumantur; edocentur, GR. 11. ivit. et per → edocentur, et per; percipiuntur; xxii. ut puta → percipiuntur; ut puta; Musicx → Musicae; qux ad salutem → quae ad salutem; veterinarim → veterinariae; eas qu:e erga mare vacant, et Scorpori → eas quae erga mare vacant, et corpori; devergentes, 78 semetipsis → devergentes, a semetipsis; indifferentiam:emulantes → indifferentiam aemulantes.

Topics: Ethics, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Irenaeus, Haer. 2.32.2 (Harvey 1:292; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/irenaeus-adversus-haereses/2-30-1/#p-2-32-2).

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the ancient Latin translation as printed by Harvey (Cambridge, 1857), from the OCR of the printed edition with slips corrected as logged, in Massuet's section numbering; lines lost in the scan supplied from Stieren's edition (1848–53) where noted; each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation in ANF 1 (1885).

2.32.3Harvey 1:292

Dicentes autem, se ex eadem circumlatione cum Jesu habere animas, et similes ei esse, aliquando autem et meliores, ad opera producti quae ille ad utilitatem hominum et firmitatem fecit, et nihil tale nec simile, neque secundum aliquid in comparationem quod venire possit, perficere inveniuntur. Sed et si aliquid faciunt, per magicam, quemadmodum diximus, operati, fraudulenter seducere nituntur insensatos: fructum quidem et utilitatem nullam prestantes, in quos virtutes perficere se dicunt; adducentes autem pueros investes, et oculos deludentes, et phantasmata ostendentes statim cessantia, et ne quidem stillicidio temporis perseverantia, non Jesu Domino nostro, sed Simoni mago similes ostenduntur. Et ex hoc autem quod Dominus Surrexit a mortuis in tertia die, firmum esse, et discipulis se manifestavit, et videntibus eis receptus est in colum, quod ipsi morientes, et non resurgentes, neque manifestati quibusdam, arguuntur in nullo similes habentes Jesu animas.

And though they say that they have souls from the same circuit as Jesus and are like him, and sometimes even better, brought forth for the works which he did for the benefit and strengthening of people, they are found to accomplish nothing of the kind, nothing similar, nothing that could in any respect come into comparison. And if they do anything, working by magic, as we said, they try to deceive the senseless fraudulently, bringing no fruit or benefit to those on whom they say they work miracles; but bringing in beardless boys, deluding the eyes, and showing phantasms that cease at once and do not last even a drop of time, they are shown to be like not Jesus our Lord but Simon the magician. And because it is certain that the Lord rose from the dead on the third day, showed himself to the disciples, and was received into heaven as they watched, they, who die and do not rise again nor show themselves to anyone, are proved to have souls in no way like that of Jesus.

1 Cor 15:4 (allusion, medium confidence) · Acts 1:9 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 8:9 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The heretics who claim souls like Jesus' do nothing like his works and do not rise from the dead; they resemble Simon the magician.

  • Fragments of Harvey's footnote and margin references are removed. References: 1 Cor 15:4; Acts 1:9; Acts 8:9–24 (Simon).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (editor's footnote; running head; footnote number; margin debris; margin debris inside a word; margin reference; stray mark): producti quz ille ad utilitatem hominum et firmitatem ing, ship-building, navigation, &c. HevLIB. II. xix. fecit, ! et nihil → producti quae ille ad utilitatem hominum et firmitatem fecit, et nihil; compara. GR 11 ri. tionem → comparationem; aliquid xxx. $ faciunt → aliquid faciunt; Simoni“ mago → Simoni mago; morientes, 5et non → morientes, et non; Euseb. H. E. → .

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Irenaeus, Haer. 2.32.3 (Harvey 1:292; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/irenaeus-adversus-haereses/2-30-1/#p-2-32-3).

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the ancient Latin translation as printed by Harvey (Cambridge, 1857), from the OCR of the printed edition with slips corrected as logged, in Massuet's section numbering; lines lost in the scan supplied from Stieren's edition (1848–53) where noted; each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation in ANF 1 (1885).

2.32.4Harvey 1:292

Si autem et Dominum per phantasmata hujusmodi fecisse dicunt, ad prophetica reducentes eos, ex ipsis demonstrabimus, omnia sic de eo et praedicta esse, et facta firmissime, et ipsum solum esse Filium Dei. Quapropter et in illius nomine, qui vere illius sunt discipuli ab ipso accipientes gratiam, perficiunt ad beneficia reliquorum hominum, quemadmodum unusquisque accepit donum ab eo. Alii enim daemones excludunt firmissime et vere, ut etiam sepissime credant ipsi qui emundati sunt a nequissimis spiritibus, et sint in Ecclesia: alii autem et praescientiam habent futurorum, et visiones, et dictiones propheticas. Alii autem laborantes aliqua infirmitate, per manus impositionem curant, et sanos restituunt. Jam etiam, quemadmodum diximus, et mortui resurrexerunt, et perseveraverunt nobiscum annis multis. Et quid autem? Non est numerum dicere gratiarum, quas per universum mundum Ecclesia a Deo accipiens, in nomine Christi Jesu, crucifixi sub Pontio Pilato, per singulos dies in opitulationem gentium perficit, neque seducens aliquem, nec pecuniam ei auferens. Quemadmodum enim gratis accepit a Deo, gratis et ministrat.

But if they say that the Lord too did such things by phantasms, we shall bring them back to the prophetic writings and show from them that all things concerning him were both foretold in this way and done most surely, and that he alone is the Son of God. Therefore also in his name those who are truly his disciples, receiving grace from him, perform works for the benefit of other people, as each has received the gift from him. For some drive out demons surely and truly, so that very often those who have been cleansed from the wicked spirits themselves believe and are in the church; others have foreknowledge of things to come, visions, and prophetic utterances; others heal those who suffer from some sickness by the laying on of hands and restore them to health. Even, as we have said, dead people have been raised and have remained with us for many years. And what more? It is not possible to tell the number of the gifts which the church throughout the whole world receives from God in the name of Christ Jesus, crucified under Pontius Pilate, and exercises every day for the help of the nations, neither deceiving anyone nor taking money from him. For as she has received freely from God, so freely she also ministers.

1 Cor 12:9–10 (echo, medium confidence) · Mark 16:18 (echo, low confidence) · Matt 10:8 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Christ's true disciples work real miracles in his name, and the church freely exercises countless gifts throughout the world.

  • Irenaeus's report of exorcisms, prophecy, healings, and raisings of the dead in the church of his day is translated as written. References: 1 Cor 12:9–10; Mark 16:18; Matt 10:8.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR): ilius sunt discipuli → illius sunt discipuli; ali autem → alii autem; Et quid autem' Non → Et quid autem? Non; erucifixi → crucifixi.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Irenaeus, Haer. 2.32.4 (Harvey 1:292; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/irenaeus-adversus-haereses/2-30-1/#p-2-32-4).

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the ancient Latin translation as printed by Harvey (Cambridge, 1857), from the OCR of the printed edition with slips corrected as logged, in Massuet's section numbering; lines lost in the scan supplied from Stieren's edition (1848–53) where noted; each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation in ANF 1 (1885).

2.32.5Harvey 1:292

Nec invocationibus angelicis facit aliquid, nec incantationibus, nec reliqua prava curiositate; sed munde et pure et manifeste orationes dirigentes [dirigens] ad Dominum, qui omnia fecit, et nomen Domini nostri Jesu Christi invocans, virtutes secundum utilitates hominum, sed non ad seductionem perfecit. Si itaque et nunc nomen Domini nostri Jesu Christi beneficia prestat, et curat firmissime et vere omnes ubique credentes in eum, sed non Simonis, neque Menandri, neque Carpocratis, nec alterius cujuscunque, manifestum est, quoniam homo factus, conversatus est cum suo plasmate, vere omnia fecit ex virtute Dei, secundum placitum Patris universorum, quomodo prophetae praedixerunt. Quie autem erant hae, in his quz sunt ex propheticis ostensionibus narrabuntur.

Nor does she do anything by invocations of angels, nor by incantations, nor by any other wicked curiosity; but, directing her prayers cleanly, purely, and openly to the Lord who made all things, and calling on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, she has performed miracles for people's benefit and not for their deception. If, then, the name of our Lord Jesus Christ even now confers benefits, and heals most surely and truly all everywhere who believe in him — and not the name of Simon, or Menander, or Carpocrates, or of anyone else — it is plain that he, having become man, lived with his own handiwork and truly did all things by the power of God, according to the good pleasure of the Father of all, as the prophets foretold. What these things were will be told in the account of the proofs from the prophetic writings.

Notes and citation

Summary: The church heals by prayer in Jesus' name, not by incantations, which shows that Christ truly worked by the power of God.

  • The text reads dirigentes, with Harvey's correction [dirigens] in brackets; the sense (the church directing her prayers) is the same.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR): et nune nomen → et nunc nomen.

Topics: Prayer, Christology

Cite (SBL): Irenaeus, Haer. 2.32.5 (Harvey 1:292; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/irenaeus-adversus-haereses/2-30-1/#p-2-32-5).

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the ancient Latin translation as printed by Harvey (Cambridge, 1857), from the OCR of the printed edition with slips corrected as logged, in Massuet's section numbering; lines lost in the scan supplied from Stieren's edition (1848–53) where noted; each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation in ANF 1 (1885).