Commonitorium against the heresy of Pelagius and Caelestius and the writings of Julian, with Subnotations on Augustine's Unfinished Work against Julian 12
Latin text: ACO I.5 (Latin text: E. Schwartz, ACO I.5 (1924-1926), from a scanned copy supplied by the editor; the text layer is an uncorrected OCR).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).
Chapter 12
12ACO I.5 1.5
Calumniatum me tibi ne uel quisquam uel tu ipse dicas contra haec te postmodum non sensisse definita, audi iterum quid uerbis tuis in libro tuo, de quo agimus, teneatur capitulo LXV: Intrauit igitur secundum apostolum per unum hominem peccatum <in hunc mundum> et per peccatum mors, quoniam illum et reum et damnationi mortis perpetuae destinatum mundus aspexit. Contra dicebas et negabas in hunc mundum per illum unum hominem intrasse peccatum, cum nunc confìtearis intrasse. In omnes autem, inquis, homines mors pertransiit, quia una forma iudicii praeuaricatores quosque reliquae conprehendit aetatis. quae tamen, ais, mors nec in sanctos nec <in> innocentes ullos saeuire permittitur, sed in eos tantum peruadet quos praeuaricationem uiderit aemulatos, quae praeuaricatio licet non sit facta naturalis, fuit tamen forma peccati atque ob hoc, licet non adgrauet nascentes, tamen accusat imitantes. mors autem iudicialis transit in eo in quo peccauerunt omnes, sed libera uoluntate. Ad haec: Si iudicialis est ista qua multatus Adam est, et ipsa est quae transiit et transit in posteros, non, ut ais, omnes omnino, sed ad solos imitatores, quae uel qualis erit illa alia quae animam a corpore separat? hic artatus, naturalis, inquies, quia Adam, siue peccaret siue non peccaret, moriturus fuisset. en stemma christianum, en ecclesiastica antiqua traditio. sed uides nempe quomodo te ipsum in dictis tuis contrarius tibi tamquam uipera lanies, cum uerborum crepitaculis magis quam ullis declamationibus Studium inane dependis. Vellem autem te pressius interrogare de morte cuiusque modi quid sentias, qui earum unam quamlibet saltem transire permittis. uelim ergo dicas mihi quid sit mors quae tuo iudicio transit: substantia est uel natura an res aliqua accidens? meminimus enim tempore quo praesens in urbe Roma cum participibus huius amentissimi erroris tui in nonnullis simplicioribus ecclesiam uentilabas, qualiter interrogabas: Quid est peccatum, inquiens, malumne aliquid an bonum? Malum utique, respondebatur tibi. ad haec addebas : Deusne huius mali auctor et opifex? Absit absit, exclamatur tibi, longe quam longe sit ista dementia; hoc nec inpiissimus profiteri ausus est Manichaeus qui mali auctorem deum non sentit nec profitetur, sed id proprium habere a sempiterno principium, propriam essentiam propriamque naturam scelestissime flagitat. ubi mox tunc ipse quaerendum esse dicebas utrum peccatum substantia esset an natura an res aliqua accidens. ubi cum paululum haereret Christiana simplicitas, taliter inferebas, peccatum nullo modo posse esse substantiam uel naturam, quia sic haberet, aiebas, deum [habet] opificem et auctorem; nulla est enim natura quam non condidit deus. sed quia supra constitit auctorem eum mali non esse, non est ergo substantia uel natura peccatum, quod malum esse apertissime claruit, et quod substantia non est, inquis, in substantiam seu naturam quod homo est, transire nullo iure, nulla ratione credendum est. atque concludebas: Male igitur et stulte traducianum ex Adam creditur esse peccatum. Vt ergo supra dicebam, patere me ut ego quoque hac uia te et isdem argumentorum interrogem lineis, ut nos doceas respondendo. mors saltem haec quae secundum animam est et est aeterna quamque Adam transgressor excepit et transmisit in posteros, ait, sed ad paucos admodum imitatores transire definis (nam de illa altera, quae a corpore animam separat, tibi nulla fit mentio), substantia est aliqua uel natura an res quaedam substantiae accidens? tu si adhuc aliquid in te luminis habes, respondebis et dices eam naturae <uel> substantiae accidisse nec posse dici substantiam quae pœnalis data est primo transgressori et deinceps generi humano, nemoque prudentium, inquies, pœnam dixerit esse substantiam uel naturam. ubi tu mox tuis cassibus concludendus es. tu in posteros saltem imitatores Adae transmittis, tamquam de substantia in substantiam uel naturam quod homo est, posse transire declaratum est. quid es, egregie perditorum magister et dialectice disputator? uidesne quo cecideris? sentisne nunc saltern quantum a ueritatis tramite deuiaueris? sed tibi interim, si ullus pudor est, nunc ista sufficiant. si autem deus uitae conmeatum dederit et ad retractandos hos optimos libros tuos et illam sapientissimam epistulam tuam relegendam tempus indulserit, proferamus interim et alia quando dominus uoluerit, tibi iterum respondebimus. tua, quae cum magna execratione uitemus.
So that neither anyone nor you yourself may say that I have slandered you, as though you did not afterwards hold these definitions, hear again what is contained in your own words in your book which we are discussing, chapter 65: 'Sin, then, according to the apostle, entered through one man into this world, and through sin death, since the world saw him both guilty and destined for the condemnation of perpetual death.' Before, you denied that sin entered this world through that one man, whereas now you confess that it entered. 'But death,' you say, 'passed through to all men, because one form of judgment includes all transgressors of every later age. Yet this death,' you say, 'is not permitted to rage against the saints or any innocent, but pervades only those whom it sees to have emulated the transgression; which transgression, though it was not made natural, was yet the pattern of sin, and therefore, though it does not weigh on those who are born, it accuses those who imitate. Judicial death passes in that in which all sinned, but by free will.' To this: If that by which Adam was punished is judicial death, and it is the one which passed and passes to the descendants, not to all without exception, as you say, but only to imitators, what, or of what kind, will that other death be which separates the soul from the body? Here, hard pressed, you will say: natural, since Adam would have died whether he sinned or not. Behold the Christian pedigree! Behold the ancient tradition of the church! But surely you see how in your words, contrary to yourself, you tear yourself like a viper, since you spend an empty zeal on the rattles of words rather than on any real argument. I should like, however, to question you more closely about what you think of death of either kind, you who allow at least one of them to pass on. Tell me, then: what is the death which in your judgment passes on? Is it a substance or nature, or some accidental thing? For we remember that at the time when you were present in the city of Rome, sifting the church among some simpler folk together with the sharers of this most insane error of yours, you used to ask: 'What is sin,' you would say, 'something evil or good?' 'Evil, of course,' they answered you. To this you added: 'Is God the author and maker of this evil?' 'Far be it, far be it,' they cried to you; 'far, far be this madness; not even the most impious Manichee dared to profess this, who neither thinks nor professes that God is the author of evil, but most wickedly insists that evil has from eternity its own principle, its own essence, and its own nature.' Then you used at once to say that it must be asked whether sin was a substance or a nature or some accidental thing. When Christian simplicity hesitated a little, you inferred thus: that sin can in no way be a substance or nature, since in that case it would have God as its maker and author, for there is no nature which God did not create; but since it was established above that he is not the author of evil, sin, which was most plainly shown to be evil, is not a substance or nature; and what is not a substance, you said, must by no right and no reason be believed to pass into the substance or nature which a man is. And you concluded: 'Wrongly and foolishly, then, is sin believed to be passed on from Adam.' As I said above, then, allow me too to question you in this way and along the same lines of argument, so that you may teach us by answering. This death at least, which is according to the soul and is eternal, and which Adam the transgressor received and, you say, transmitted to his descendants, though you define it as passing only to a very few imitators (for of that other death, which separates the soul from the body, you make no mention): is it some substance or nature, or something accidental to substance? If you still have any light in you, you will answer that it happened to nature or substance and cannot be called a substance, since it was given as a penalty to the first transgressor and thereafter to the human race; and no prudent person, you will say, would call a penalty a substance or nature. Here at once you are caught in your own nets. You transmit it to the descendants, at least to the imitators of Adam, as though it had been shown that it can pass from substance into the substance or nature which a man is. What are you, excellent master of the lost and dialectical disputer? Do you see where you have fallen? Do you perceive now at least how far you have strayed from the path of truth? But for the present, if there is any shame in you, let these things suffice. If God grants a lease of life and allows time for re-examining these excellent books of yours and re-reading that most wise letter of yours, we shall meanwhile bring forward other things of yours too, which we avoid with great execration; and when the Lord wills, we shall answer you again.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Rom 5:12 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Marius turns Julian's own argument that sin, not being a substance, cannot be transmitted against his claim that death, also not a substance, passes to Adam's imitators.
- Rom 5:12. Julian's words are from To Florus (Augustine, Unfinished Work 2.63, 66). The editor deletes 'has' (habet) after 'God'; 'into this world' is the editor's addition, translated. The last sentence is disordered in the digital text and is translated in its probable order.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip and leaked marginal reference; OCR slips; leaked marginal reference; leaked marginal reference inside word; line number; line number and OCR slip; line number inside word): agiraus → agimus; mun- Aug^op. imp. dum) → mundum>; damnation! mortis perpetuae R'om. 5) I 2 destinatum → damnationi mortis perpetuae destinatum; quae tarnen, ais → quae tamen, ais; sseuire → saeuire; praeuari-10 cationem → praeuaricationem; prasuaricatio → praeuaricatio; fuit tarnen forma → fuit tamen forma; imitantes. 2, 67 mors → imitantes. mors; uoluntate. Aug^op.imp. Ad haec → uoluntate. Ad haec; dependis. i g Vellern → dependis. Vellem; sentías, qui → sentias, qui; transiré permittis → transire permittis; Quid25 est → Quid est; ubi 30 mox → ubi mox; quasrendum → quaerendum; transiré nullo iure → transire nullo iure; mors saltem hasc → mors saltem haec; transiré definis → transire definis; dices earn naturae → dices eam naturae; saltern imitatores Adas → saltem imitatores Adae; transiré declaratum → transire declaratum; perdiio torum → perditorum; disputatori uidesne quo ceciderisf → disputator? uidesne quo cecideris?; alia 15 quando → alia quando.
Topics: Heresy, Pelagianism, Original sin and concupiscence
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Translation: Translated by Claude from Schwartz, Acta Conciliorum Oecumenicorum (text layer of the printed volumes, OCR slips corrected by logged corrections). No public-domain or FOTC English exists; re-read against the original.