Octavius 40.1

Summary: Caecilius declares that both have won: Octavius over him, and he over his error.

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Latin text · CSEL 2:55

Dum istaec igitur apud me tacitus euoluo, Caecilius erupit: Ego Octauio meo plurimum quantum, sed et mihi gratulor nec expecto sententiam. uicimus et ita: uel improbe usurpo uictoriam. nam ut ille mei uictor est, ita ego triumphator erroris.

English · Claude translation

While, then, I was silently turning these things over in my mind, Caecilius burst out: "I congratulate my Octavius exceedingly, but myself too, and I do not wait for the verdict. We have both conquered, and so I claim the victory, shameless though that may be: for as he is my conqueror, so I triumph over error.

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Source
CSEL 2:55 · Karl Halm, ed., M. Minucii Felicis Octavius; Iulii Firmici Materni Liber de errore profanarum religionum, CSEL 2 (Vienna: Gerold, 1867), 1–56 · Latin text: K. Halm (CSEL 2, 1867), digitized by Open Greek and Latin, University of Leipzig (csel-dev), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in CSEL 2. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Latin text of CSEL 2; made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made) · Divided there by chapter only.

Notes

Translation notes

  • The text of "uicimus et ita: uel improbe usurpo uictoriam" is uncertain (some editors read "non improbe", "not unjustly"); the translation follows the printed text.

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Minucius Felix, Oct. 40.1 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/minucius-octavius/40/1/).

Plain text
Minucius Felix, Oct. 40.1 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/minucius-octavius/40/1/).

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