Against Celsus 4.45
Summary: Celsus calls Lot and his daughters worse than Thyestes; Origen, noting that Scripture neither praises nor blames them, observes that the Stoics defend such an act in a hypothetical end of the world, which Lot's daughters believed had come.
Greek text · Koetschau 1:317–319
Δέον δʼ αὐτὸν τὸ φιλάληθες τῶν ἀναγραψάντων τὰς θείας γραφὰς ἀποδεξάμενον. μὴ κρυψάντων καὶ τὰ ἀπεμφαίνοντα, προσαχθῆναι καὶ περὶ τῶν λοιπῶν καὶ παραδοξοτέρων ὡς οὐ πεπλασμένων, ὁ δὲ τοὐναντίον πεποίηκε καὶ τὰ περὶ τὸν Λὼτ καὶ τὰς θυγατέρας, οὔτε κατὰ τὸ ῥητὸν ἐξετάσας οὔτε κατὰ τὴν ἀναγωγὴν ἐρευνήσας. τῶν Θυεστείων εἶπε κακῶν ἀνομώτερα. τὰ μὲν οὖν τῆς κατὰ τὸν τόπον τροπολογίας οὐκ ἀναγκαῖον νῦν λέγειν, τίνα τε τὰ Σόδομα. καὶ τίς ὁ πρὸς τὸν ἐκεῖθεν διασῳζόμενον τῶν ἀγγέλων λόγος, φασκόντων· „μὴ περιβλέψῃ εἰς τὰ ὀπίσω μηδὲ στῇς ἐν πάσῃ τῇ περιχώρῳ· εἰς τὸ ὄρος σῴζου, μή ποτε συμπαραληφθῇς, “ καὶ τίς ὁ Λὼτ, τίς τε ἡ γυνὴ αὐτοῦ, γενομένη „στήλη ἁλὸς“ διὰ τὸ ἐστράφθαι εἰς τοὐπίσω, καὶ τίνες αἱ θυγατέρες αὐτοῦ, καταμεθύσκουσαι τὸν πατέρα, ἵνα γένωνται ἐξ αὐτοῦ μητέρες· φέρε δὲ τὰ τῆς κατὰ τὴν ἱστορίαν ἀπεμφάσεως διʼ ὀλίγων παραμυθησώμεθα, τὴν τῶν ἀγαθῶν καὶ κακῶν καὶ ἀδιαφόρων ἐζήτησαν καὶ Ἕλληνες φύσιν· καὶ οἱ ἐπιτυγχάνοντές γε αὐτῶν τὰ μὲν ἀγαθὰ καὶ κακὰ τίθενται ἐν προαιρέσει μόνῃ, πάντα δὲ ἀδιάφορα τῷ ἰδίῳ λόγῳ φασὶν εἶναι τὰ χωρὶς προαιρέσεως ἐξεταζόμενα· τὴν δὲ προαίρεσιν τούτοις χρωμένην δεόντως μὲν ἐπαινετὴν εἶναι, οὐ δεόντως δὲ ψεκτήν, εἶπον οὖν ἐν τῷ περὶ ἀδιαφόρων τόπῳ ὅτι τῷ ἰδίῳ λόγῳ θυγατράσι μίγνυσθαι ἀδιάφορόν ἐστιν, εἰ καὶ μὴ χρὴ ἐν ταῖς καθεστώσαις πολιτείαις τὸ τοιοῦτον ποιεῖν, καὶ ὑποθέσεως χάριν πρὸς παράστασιν τοῦ ἀδιάφορον εἶναι τὸ τοιοῦτον παρειλήφασι τὸν σοφὸν μετὰ τῆς θυγατρὸς μόνης καταλελειμμένον, παντὸς τοῦ τῶν ἀνθρώπων γένους διεφθαρμένου, καὶ ζητοῦσιν εἰ καθηκόντως ὁ πατὴρ συνελεύσεται τῇ θυγατρὶ ὑπὲρ τοῦ μὴ ἀπολέσθαι κατʼ αὐτὴν τὴν ὑπόθεσιν τὸ πᾶν τῶν ἀνθρώπων γένος. ἆρʼ οὖν παρὰ μὲν Ἕλλησιν ὑγιῶς ταῦτα λέγεται, καὶ οὐκ εὐκαταφρόνητος αὐτοῖς αἵρεσις ἡ τῶν Στωϊκῶν συναγορεύει· ἐπὰν δὲ κόρια, περὶ ἐκπυρώσεως τοῦ κόσμου μεμαθηκότα οὐ τετρανωκότα δὲ, ἰδόντα πῦρ διειληφὸς τὴν πόλιν αὐτῶν καὶ τὴν χώραν, ὑπολαμβάνοντα ζώπυρον τοῦ γένους τῶν ἀνθρώπων καταλελεῖφθαι ἐν τῷ πατρὶ καὶ αὐταῖς, βουληθῇ διὰ τὴν τοιανδὶ ὑπόληψιν συστήσασθαι τὸν κόσμον, ἐλάττονα ἔσται τοῦ κατὰ τὴν τῶν Στωϊκῶν ὑπόθεσιν σοφοῦ, καθηκόντως ἐν τῇ φθορᾷ τῶν πάντων ἀνθρώπων μιγνυμένου ταῖς θυγατράσιν; οὐκ ἀγνοῶ δʼ ὅτι προσκόψαντές τινες τῷ βουλήματι τῶν τοῦ Λὼτ θυγατέρων καὶ ἀνόσιον τὸ ἔργον εἶναι ὑπειλήφασι καὶ ὡς ἐξ ἀνοσίων μίξεων εἰρήκασι γεγονέναι ἔθνη ἐπάρατα, τὸ Μωαβιτῶν καὶ τὸ Ἀμμανιτῶν, καὶ ἀληθῶς γε οὐχ εὑρίσκεται ἡ θεία γραφὴ σαφῶς παραδεξαμένη ὡς καλῶς γεγενημένον τὸ τοιοῦτον ἢ αἰτιασαμένη καὶ μεμψαμένη· πλὴν ὅπως ποτὲ ἔχει τὸ γενόμενον, ἀνάγεται μὲν ἐπὶ τροπολογίαν ἔχει δέ τινα καὶ καθʼ αὑτὸ ἀπολογίαν.
English · Claude translation
He ought to have accepted the love of truth of those who wrote the divine Scriptures, who did not hide even what is unseemly, and to have been drawn to accept the other and more marvelous things as not fictitious. But he did the opposite, and the story of Lot and his daughters, without examining it literally or investigating it according to the higher sense, he called “more lawless than the evils of Thyestes.” It is not necessary now to state the figurative meaning of the passage: what Sodom is, and what is meant by the angels' words to the one who escaped from there, “Do not look behind you, nor stop anywhere in the surrounding country; escape to the mountain, lest you be taken along with them”; who Lot is, and who his wife, who became “a pillar of salt” because she turned back; and who his daughters are, who made their father drunk in order to become mothers by him. But let us briefly soften the unseemliness of the story. The Greeks too inquired into the nature of good, evil, and indifferent things; and those of them who succeed place good and evil in the will alone, and say that all things considered apart from the will are by their own nature indifferent, but that the will, when it uses these things as it should, is praiseworthy, and when it does not, blameworthy. So in the treatment of indifferent things they said that to have intercourse with one's daughters is by its own nature indifferent, even if one must not do such a thing in established states; and, for the sake of a hypothesis, to show that such a thing is indifferent, they have taken the case of the wise man left alone with his daughter, the whole human race having been destroyed, and they ask whether the father will fittingly unite with his daughter so that, on this hypothesis, the whole human race may not perish. Is this, then, soundly said among the Greeks, and does the not contemptible school of the Stoics argue for it; but when young girls, who had learned about the conflagration of the world but not clearly, seeing fire overwhelming their city and land, and supposing that the living spark of the human race was left in their father and themselves, wished on such a supposition to preserve the world, are they to be judged worse than the wise man of the Stoics' hypothesis, who fittingly unites with his daughters when all men have been destroyed? I am not unaware that some, offended by the intention of Lot's daughters, have supposed the act to be unholy, and have said that from unholy unions came accursed nations, the Moabites and the Ammonites. And in truth the divine Scripture is not found clearly approving such a thing as well done, nor charging or blaming it. But however the event stands, it is taken up into figurative interpretation, and it also has in itself a certain defense.
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Translation notes
- The quotations are Gen 19:17 and 19:26; the story is Gen 19:30–38. The Stoic hypothesis is attributed to Chrysippus. Thyestes unknowingly ate his own children and fathered a child by his daughter. Origen offers this as a partial defense of the daughters' motive, not as approval; “school” renders αἵρεσις in its neutral sense.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (missing accents in the digital text): τροπολογιαν ἐχει δέ → τροπολογίαν ἔχει δέ.
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Origen, Cels. 4.45 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/4/45/).
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Origen, Cels. 4.45 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/4/45/).
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