Against Celsus 5.65

Summary: Not all sects quote Paul, since the Ebionites and Encratites reject him; Celsus next claims that Christianity's best ideas were said better by the philosophers, which Origen will answer in Book 6.

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Greek text · Koetschau 2:68–69

Ἐπεὶ δέ φησιν ὅτι πάντων ἀκούσει τῶν ἐπὶ τοσοῦτον διεστηκότων λεγόντων τό· „ἐμοὶ κόσμος ἐσταύρωται, κἀγὼ κόσμῳ, “ καὶ τοῦτο ψεῦδος διελέγξομεν. εἰσὶ γάρ τινες αἱρέσεις τὰς Παύλου ἐπιστολὰς τοῦ ἀποστόλου μὴ προσιέμεναι, ὥσπερ Ἐβιωναῖοι ἀμφότεροι καὶ οἱ καλούμενοι Ἐγκρατηταί. οὐκ ἂν οὖν οἱ μὴ χρώμενοι τῷ ἀποστόλῳ ὡς μακαρίῳ τινὶ καὶ σοφῷ λέγοιεν τό· „ἐμοὶ κόσμος ἐσταύρωται, κἀγὼ κόσμῳ“· διὸ καὶ ἐν τούτῳ ὁ Κέλσος ψεύδεται. καὶ ἐπιδιατρίβει γε κατηγορῶν τῆς ἐν ταῖς αἱρέσεσι διαφορᾶς· οὐ πάνυ δέ μοι δοκεῖ διαρθροῦν ἃ λέγει οὐδʼ ἐπιμελῶς αὐτὰ τεθεωρηκέναι οὐδὲ κατανενοηκέναι, πῶς πλεῖον Ἰουδαίων ἐπίστασθαι λέγουσιν ἑαυτοὺς οἱ ἐν τοῖς λόγοις διαβεβηκότες Χριστιανοὶ, καὶ πότερον τοῖς μὲν βιβλίοις συγκατατιθέμενοι τὸν δὲ νοῦν ἀντεξηγούμενοι, ἢ οὐδὲ συγκατατιθέμενοι τοῖς ἐκείνων γράμμασιν· ἑκάτερα γὰρ εὕροιμεν ἂν ἐν ταῖς αἱρέσεσι. μετὰ ταῦτά φησι· φέρʼ οὖν, εἰ καὶ μηδεμίαν ἀρχὴν τοῦ δόγματος ἔχουσιν, αὐτὸν ἐξετάσωμεν τὸν λόγον· πρότερον δὲ ὅσα παρακηκοότες ὑπʼ ἀγνοίας διαφθείρουσιν, οὐκ ἐμμελῶς ἐν ἀρχαῖς εὐθὺς ἀπαυθαδιαζόμενοι περὶ ὧν οὐκ ἴσασι, λεκτέον· ἔστι δὲ τάδε. καὶ εὐθέως λέξεσί τισι, τοῖς πιστεύουσι τῷ Χριστιανῶν λόγῳ συνεχῶς ὀνομαζομέναις, ἀντιπαρατίθησιν ἀπὸ τῶν φιλοσόφων, βουλόμενος τὰ καλὰ τῶν νομιζομένων Κέλσῳ παρὰ Χριστιανοῖς λέγεσθαι καὶ βέλτιον καὶ τρανότερον εἰρῆσθαι παρὰ τοῖς φιλοσοφοῦσιν, ἵνα περισπάσῃ ἐπὶ φιλοσοφίαν τοὺς ἁλισκομένους ὑπὸ τῶν αὐτόθεν ἐμφαινόντων δογμάτων τὸ καλὸν καὶ τὸ εὐσεβές. καὶ τὸν πέμπτον δὴ τόμον αὐτόθι καταπαύσαντες ἀρξώμεθα τοῦ ἕκτου ἀπὸ τῶν ἑξῆς.

English · Claude translation

And since he says "you will hear all of them, though so divided, saying: 'The world has been crucified to me, and I to the world,'" we will refute this falsehood too. For there are some sects that do not accept the letters of the apostle Paul, such as both kinds of Ebionites and those called Encratites. Those who do not use the apostle as a blessed and wise man would not, then, say "The world has been crucified to me, and I to the world"; so Celsus lies in this too. And he dwells on accusing the differences among the sects; but he does not seem to me to distinguish at all clearly what he says, nor to have considered it carefully, nor to have understood how the Christians advanced in learning say they know more than the Jews, and whether they do so while accepting the books but interpreting their sense differently, or not even accepting their writings; for we would find both among the sects. After this he says: "Come then, even if they have no foundation for their doctrine, let us examine the doctrine itself. But first we must state what they have misheard and corrupt through ignorance, arrogantly overbearing, without good taste, right from the beginning about things they do not know; these are the following." And at once, against certain expressions constantly used by those who believe in the Christian doctrine, he sets passages from the philosophers, wishing to show that the good things that Celsus supposes are said among Christians have been said both better and more clearly among the philosophers, so as to draw toward philosophy those who are captivated by doctrines that plainly display what is noble and pious. And ending the fifth book here, let us begin the sixth from what follows.

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Koetschau 2:68–69 · Paul Koetschau, ed., Origenes Werke 1–2: Gegen Celsus, GCS 2–3 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1899) · Greek text: P. Koetschau, Origenes Werke 1–2 (GCS 2–3, 1899), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0
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As printed in Koetschau, GCS 2–3. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
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Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)
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  • The quotation is Gal 6:14. The Encratites rejected marriage and meat; here αἱρέσεις means "sects."

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Origen, Cels. 5.65 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5/65/).

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Origen, Cels. 5.65 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5/65/).

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