Fragments on Job 59–79
Greek text: PG 17 (Greek text: Migne, PG 17 (1862), from library-scan OCR).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).
Chapter 59
59PG 17:60a–60d
ται, ζητῶν καταπιεῖν τινα. Ἶιλθεν οὖν καὶ περὶ τὸν Ἰὼ6, βουλόμενος τὰ αὺτά ποιῆσαι. ’Υστερον λαῦὼν ἐξουσίαν, ταῦτα πεποίηκε. Καὶ ὅτι πάντα περιπεφραγμένα ἦν, καὶ ταῦτα νοήσας ἐκ τοῦ κεκωλύσθαιο βουλόμενος ποιεῖν τὰ περὶ τοῦ Ίὼὸ, εἷπε Σὺ περιέφραεας τὰ ἔσω αὐτοῦ καί τὰ ἔξω αὑτοῦ. Πάντα οὖν ἐφʼ ὅσον οὐ δίδοται τῷ διασόλῳ, σὺ πελ teφραξαςο Etet- ἐτίτριὲτρυςιέιιοῦῐτοςν ἀυιιος ἀπτέιοςυφ) τῷ Ὶώὅο Τῶν υἱῶν σου καὶ τῶν θυγατέρων σου ἐσθιόντων καί πινόντων, παρὰ τῷ ἀδελφῷ αὐτῶν τῷ πρεσβυτέρῳ, Στ, ιθί. Ὲξαίρνςής πνεῦμα μέγα ἐπῆλθεν ἐρήμου. καὶ ἥψατο τῶν τεσσάρων Ma?” τῆς οἰκίας, καί ἔπεσεν ἡ οίκία ἐπὶ-τὰ παιδία σου, καί ἐτελεύτησαν. Ἐσώθην δὲ ἐγὼ μόνος, καί ἦλθον τοῦ ἀπαγγεῖλαί σοι. Τὰς μὲν οὖν καμήλους πεποίηκε γενέσθαι ὑπὸ τοὺς ἱππεῖς, τοὺς δνους δέ καὶ τά ζεύγη τῶν βοῶν ὑπὸ τοὺς αίχμαλωτιζοντας· τά πρόδατα δέ ἐμίσει. Διά τοῦτο πῦρ ἐπʼ αὺτά κατήγαγεν. ’Λλλά καὶ τοῖς υίοῖς ἐπεβούλευσε, καιρὸν ἐζήτει τοῦ αὐτοὺς ἀπολέσαι. Εί εὑρήκει ἀναγινώσκοντας, οὐκ ἀν ἥψατο τῆς οἰκίας, οὐδέ τόπον εἶχε τοῦ αὐτοὺς ἀποκτεῖναι. El εὑρήκει προσευχομένους, οὐδὲν ἠδύνατο ποιῆσαι κατʼ αὐτῶν. Ἀλλʼ ὅτε εὗρεν εὐκαιρίαν, ἴσχυσε. Ποῖος οὖν ὁ καιρός; Μέθη ἦν, συμπόσιον ἦν. Τὸ, τῶν γωνιῶν τῆς οἰκίας ἅψασθαι τὸ πνεῦμα, ἐπίστησον, ὅτι ἐν ταῖς τῶν γωνιῶν πλατείαις oi ὑποκριταὶ ἐστῶτες προσεύχονται· πᾶς δὲ ό μὴ ἐπιβεβηκὼς εὐθείας ὁδοῦ, ταῖς γωνίαις κέχρηται. Πλατεῖα δὲ γωνία ἠ πολλὴ καὶ ἀνειμένη κακία. ΚΕΦ. B'. Στίχ. βʼ. Καὶ εἶπεν Δό ῌύριος τῷ διαβόλῳ· Πόθεν σὺ ἐρχῃ; Ἐὠρα ό Θεὸς, ὅπως αἰσχυνθεὶς διεπονεῖτο ό Σατανᾶς. Ὅταν δὲ ἐπερωτῶν ἴδῃ ἀγνωμονοῦντα, τότε ἐλέγχει κακουργοῦντα, ὡς ἡλεγξε τὸν Κάῖν.
tai, zētōn katapiein tina. Iilthen oun kai peri ton Iō6, boulomenos ta auta poiēsai. ’Ysteron lauōn exousian, tauta pepoiēke. Kai hoti panta peripephragmena ēn, kai tauta noēsas ek tou kekōlysthaio boulomenos poiein ta peri tou Iōo, heipe Sy periephraeas ta esō autou kai ta exō hautou. Panta oun ephʼ hoson ou didotai tǭ diasolǭ, sy pel tephraxaso Etet- etitrietrysieiiouitosn auiios apteiosyph) tǭ Iōoo Tōn huiōn sou kai tōn thygaterōn sou esthiontōn kai pinontōn, para tǭ adelphǭ autōn tǭ presbyterǭ, St, ithi. Exairnsēs pneuma mega epēlthen erēmou. kai hēpsato tōn tessarōn Ma?” tēs oikias, kai epesen hē oikia epi-ta paidia sou, kai eteleutēsan. Esōthēn de egō monos, kai ēlthon tou apangeilai soi. Tas men oun kamēlous pepoiēke genesthai hypo tous hippeis, tous dnous de kai ta zeugē tōn boōn hypo tous aichmalōtizontas; ta prodata de emisei. Dia touto pyr epʼ auta katēgagen. ’Llla kai tois uiois epebouleuse, kairon ezētei tou autous apolesai. Ei heurēkei anaginōskontas, ouk an hēpsato tēs oikias, oude topon eiche tou autous apokteinai. El heurēkei proseuchomenous, ouden ēdynato poiēsai katʼ autōn. Allʼ hote heuren eukairian, ischyse. Poios oun ho kairos? Methē ēn, symposion ēn. To, tōn gōniōn tēs oikias hapsasthai to pneuma, epistēson, hoti en tais tōn gōniōn plateiais oi hypokritai estōtes proseuchontai; pas de o mē epibebēkōs eutheias hodou, tais gōniais kechrētai. Plateia de gōnia ē pollē kai aneimenē kakia. KEPh. B'. Stich. bʼ. Kai eipen Do Ę̄urios tǭ diabolǭ; Pothen sy erchę̄? Eōra o Theos, hopōs aischyntheis dieponeito o Satanas. Hotan de eperōtōn idę̄ agnōmonounta, tote elenchei kakourgounta, hōs hēlenxe ton Kain.
[Job 1:10] … seeking someone to devour. So he came round Job as well, wishing to do the same things to him. Later, when he had received authority, he did them. And he understood that everything was fenced around from being prevented when he wished to do what he did concerning Job; so he said: "You have fenced around the things within him and the things outside him." Everything, then, so far as it is not given to the devil, you have fenced around. … to Job: [Job 1:18–19] "While your sons and your daughters were eating and drinking at the house of their elder brother, suddenly a great wind came from the desert and struck the four corners of the house, and the house fell on your children, and they died; and I alone escaped, and came to tell you." The camels, then, he caused to fall to the horsemen, and the asses and the yokes of oxen to the raiders who took captives; but the sheep he hated, and that is why he brought fire down on them. But he also plotted against the sons and sought an occasion to destroy them. If he had found them reading, he would not have touched the house, nor would he have had any opening to kill them. If he had found them praying, he could have done nothing against them. But when he found a fitting moment, he prevailed. What, then, was the moment? There was drunkenness; there was a drinking party. As for the wind touching the corners of the house, notice that "the hypocrites stand and pray at the corners of the broad streets"; and everyone who has not set foot on the straight way keeps to corners. And a broad corner is wickedness that is great and unrestrained. [Job 2:2] Chapter 2, verse 2: "And the Lord said to the devil: Where do you come from?" God saw how the Satan, put to shame, was in distress. And when, on questioning him, he sees him obstinate, then he convicts him as an evildoer, as he convicted Cain.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
1 Pet 5:8 (allusion, high confidence) · Job 1:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 1:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 1:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 1:14 (allusion, medium confidence) · Job 1:16 (allusion, medium confidence) · Job 1:17 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 6:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 2:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 4:9 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The devil could touch only what God's hedge left open, and he struck Job's children at a drinking party, not at reading or prayer.
- The text begins in mid-sentence ("… seeking someone to devour", 1 Pet 5:8); the beginning is lost in the scan. A stretch of garbled OCR between the quotation of Job 1:10 and Job 1:18 is marked "…".
- "The hypocrites … corners of the broad streets": Matt 6:5. "As he convicted Cain": Gen 4:9–12.
- The scan text marks verses as "Stich." with Greek numerals and chapters as "Kephalaion"; the verse numbers of the catena follow the Septuagint of Job, which here agrees with the English Bible.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR garble of Ποῖος οὖν ὁ καιρός; OCR garble of θυγατέρων (Job 1:18); footnote marker leaked into the text): (ll) → ; apportραίν → θυγατέρων; Uolo; οὖν ό καιρόςς → Ποῖος οὖν ὁ καιρός;.
Cite (SBL): Origen, Frag. Job 59 (PG 17:60a–60d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-fragmenta-iob/59/#p-59). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek of Migne PG 17 (library-scan text); no public-domain English exists, so it was re-read against the Greek.
Chapter 61
61PG 17:61a–61d
τὸν είς αὐτὴν τυπωθὲντα ταῦτα φθέγγεσθαιθ οὐδὲ γάι ἦν τὴν γυναῖκα τοῦ Ἰὼβ τοιαύτην εῖναι· πλὴν εῐ τις λέγοι, συμφορᾷ περιτραπεῖσαν, τοιαύτην αὐτὴν γενέσθαι. Kal μετʼ ἀλέγω Εἰκὸς οὐ ταύτην πρώτην γεγενῆσθαι τὴν συμβουλὴν, ἀλλά πολλάκις πολλὰ τού των ἀκοῦσαι χαλεπώτερα παρά τῆς γυναικός. Ὅρα διαβολικὴν ἀπάτην. Ἐνενόησε τὴν Εὕαν. Τοῦτο, φησὶ, τὸν πρῶτον κατήνεγκεν ἀνθ ρωπονο τοῦτο καὶ τούτου περιγενέσθαι δυνήσεται. Ἀλλʼ, ὧ ἄθλιε καὶ ἀνόητεῐ ἐκεῖνον ἥττονα γαστρὸς εὑροῦσα, ἰὸν ἔσπειρε τὸν ἑαυτῆς. Τοῦτον δὲ ὁρᾷς φιλοσοφοῦντα, καὶ αὐτῆς περιγενόμενον τῆς φύσεως. Οὐκ ὲπέκαμψεν αὑτὸν χρημάτων ἀπώλεια, οὑδὲ παίδων θάνατος,ἀωρος, οὐδὲ βάσανος σώματος ἀπαραμύθητος, οὐδὲ χρόνου μῆκος τοσοῦτον. Καὶ τὸν ὑπὸ πραγμάτων οὐχ ἁλόντα, τοῦ· τον ὑπὸ λόγων προσδοκᾷς χειρώσασθαι; Τί τὸν ἀθλητὴν ὲκλύεις; Τί καταστέλλεις τὰς χεῖρας; δέον εἰπεῖν κατά τὸν ’Δπόστολοψ Ἔτι μικρὸν, ἔτι μικρόν. Στ. θʼ. Ἀλλʼ εἶπόν τι feign εις Κύριον, καὶ τε τα. Μετὰ τὸ τὴν τραγῳδίαν ἀκριβῶς διηγήσασθαι, τότε τὴν ἀναίσχυντον ἐπιφέρει συμβουλήν. Καὶ οὐδὲ αὑτῷ φανερῶς εἷπε, Βλασφήμησον. Ol γὰρ πονηρὰ συμβουλεύοντες οὐ τολμῶσιν ἀνακεκαλυμμένην εἰσάγειν τὴν συμβουλήν. Τί λέγεις, ὧ γύναι; Δέον ὲξιλεώσασθαι, δέον καταλλάξαι, παροξῦναι μᾶλλον παραινεῖς; El γὰρ 6 Θεὸς ταῦτα ἐποίησε, παρακαλέσαι αὐτὸν, οὐ βλασφημῆσαι δεῖ. Πόθεν δὲ δῆλον, ὅτι καὶ δρώμενον τελευτήσω; Πλὴν ὅρα ὅπως εἶχε περὶ τῆς βλασφημίας ή γυνή. Ὠσπερ παραχρῆμα αὐτὴν θάνατον ὲπάγειν ἱκανὴν ήγεῖτο. Στ. ιʼ. ἘΖ τὰ, ἀγαθά ἐδεξάμεθα ἐκ χειρὸς Κυρίου, τὰ κακὰ οὐχ ὑποίσομειλξ Ὀ γὰρ μακάριος οὗτος, πανταχόθεν βαλλόμενος, ἀσφαλέστερον ἵστατο, καὶ μυρία βέλη δεχόμενος, οὐκ ἐνεδίδου. Ἀλλʼ ὲκένωσε μὲν τοῦ διαβόλου τὴν βελοθήκην, αὐτὸς δὲ οὐ κατέπεσεν, οὐδὲ ὐπεσκελίσθη. Ἀλλʼ ὥσπερ ἄριστος κυβερνήτης, οὔτε μαινομένης τῆς θαλάσσης, καὶ τῶν κυμάτων διεγειρομένων κατεποντίζετο, οῦτε γαλήνης οὔσης ῥᾳθυμότερος ἐγίνετο. Ἀλλʼ ὲν ἑκατέρᾳ τῇ τῶν καιρῶν διαφορᾷ ῐσην τὴν ἑαυτοῦ τέχνην διετήρησε. Καὶ οῦτε πλοῦτος ἑαυτὸν ἐφύσησεν, οὔτε πενία ἐταπείνωσεν, οὔτε, κατὰ ῥοῦν τῶν πραγμάτων φερομένων, ὕπτιος ἦν καὶ ἀναπεπτωκὼς, οὗτε, ὅλης σχεδὸν τῆς οἰκείας ἀνατραπείσης, καὶ πανολεθρίας γενομένης, διεταράχθη, καί τήν ἀνδρίαν ήλεγξε τὴν ἑαυτοῦ. Ἀκουέτωσαν πλούσιοι, ἀκουέτωσαν πένητες· ἑκατέροις γὰρ τὸ διήγημα χρήσιμον, καὶ πᾶσιν ἀνθρώποις ή ἱστορία λυσιτελής καὶ τοῖς ἑν εὐημερίᾳ, καὶ τοῖς ἐν συμφοραῖς. Ἐκάτερα γὰρ τὰ ὅπλα μεταχειρίσας 6 τῆς εὐσεβείας ἀγωνιστὴς, 6 τῆς οίκουμένης στεφανίτης, ὲν ἑκατέροις τὸ τρόπαιον ἔστησε· καὶ πρὸς πᾶν εἶδος πολέμου τοῦ δαίμονος
ton eis autēn typōthenta tauta phthengesthaith oude gai ēn tēn gynaika tou Iōb toiautēn einai; plēn ei tis legoi, symphorą peritrapeisan, toiautēn autēn genesthai. Kal metʼ alegō Eikos ou tautēn prōtēn gegenēsthai tēn symboulēn, alla pollakis polla tou tōn akousai chalepōtera para tēs gynaikos. Hora diabolikēn apatēn. Enenoēse tēn Heuan. Touto, phēsi, ton prōton katēnenken anth rōpono touto kai toutou perigenesthai dynēsetai. Allʼ, hō athlie kai anoētei ekeinon hēttona gastros heurousa, ion espeire ton heautēs. Touton de horąs philosophounta, kai autēs perigenomenon tēs physeōs. Ouk epekampsen hauton chrēmatōn apōleia, houde paidōn thanatos,aōros, oude basanos sōmatos aparamythētos, oude chronou mēkos tosouton. Kai ton hypo pragmatōn ouch halonta, tou; ton hypo logōn prosdokąs cheirōsasthai? Ti ton athlētēn eklyeis? Ti katastelleis tas cheiras? deon eipein kata ton ’Dpostolops Eti mikron, eti mikron. St. thʼ. Allʼ eipon ti feign eis Kyrion, kai te ta. Meta to tēn tragǭdian akribōs diēgēsasthai, tote tēn anaischynton epipherei symboulēn. Kai oude hautǭ phanerōs heipe, Blasphēmēson. Ol gar ponēra symbouleuontes ou tolmōsin anakekalymmenēn eisagein tēn symboulēn. Ti legeis, hō gynai? Deon exileōsasthai, deon katallaxai, paroxynai mallon paraineis? El gar 6 Theos tauta epoiēse, parakalesai auton, ou blasphēmēsai dei. Pothen de dēlon, hoti kai drōmenon teleutēsō? Plēn hora hopōs eiche peri tēs blasphēmias ē gynē. Ōsper parachrēma autēn thanaton epagein hikanēn ēgeito. St. iʼ. EZ ta, agatha edexametha ek cheiros Kyriou, ta kaka ouch hypoisomeilx O gar makarios houtos, pantachothen ballomenos, asphalesteron histato, kai myria belē dechomenos, ouk enedidou. Allʼ ekenōse men tou diabolou tēn belothēkēn, autos de ou katepesen, oude ypeskelisthē. Allʼ hōsper aristos kybernētēs, oute mainomenēs tēs thalassēs, kai tōn kymatōn diegeiromenōn katepontizeto, oute galēnēs ousēs rhąthymoteros egineto. Allʼ en hekaterą tę̄ tōn kairōn diaphorą isēn tēn heautou technēn dietērēse. Kai oute ploutos heauton ephysēsen, oute penia etapeinōsen, oute, kata rhoun tōn pragmatōn pheromenōn, hyptios ēn kai anapeptōkōs, houte, holēs schedon tēs oikeias anatrapeisēs, kai panolethrias genomenēs, dietarachthē, kai tēn andrian ēlenxe tēn heautou. Akouetōsan plousioi, akouetōsan penētes; hekaterois gar to diēgēma chrēsimon, kai pasin anthrōpois ē historia lysitelēs kai tois hen euēmerią, kai tois en symphorais. Ekatera gar ta hopla metacheirisas 6 tēs eusebeias agōnistēs, 6 tēs oikoumenēs stephanitēs, en hekaterois to tropaion estēse; kai pros pan eidos polemou tou daimonos
… the one who had taken shape in her utters these things; for it was not possible for Job's wife to be such a woman, unless one should say that she became such when overturned by calamity. And a little after, he says: It is likely that this was not the first time this counsel was given, but that he had often heard many things harder than these from his wife. See the devil's deceit. He had Eve in mind. "This," he says, "brought down the first man; this will be able to overcome this man too." But, wretched and senseless one, you found that man weaker than his belly, and sowed your poison; this man you see living as a philosopher and overcoming nature itself. The loss of his goods did not bend him, nor the untimely death of his children, nor torment of body without consolation, nor so great a length of time. And do you expect to subdue by words the man whom events did not capture? Why do you unnerve the athlete? Why do you hold down his hands? You ought to have said, with the apostle: "Yet a little while, yet a little while." [Job 2:9] Verse 9: "But say some word against the Lord, and die." After telling the tragedy in detail, she then brings in her shameless counsel. And she did not say to him openly, "Blaspheme"; for those who give wicked counsel do not dare to bring in their counsel uncovered. What are you saying, woman? When you ought to appease him, ought to be reconciled, do you urge him instead to provoke him? For if God did these things, one must entreat him, not blaspheme him. And how is it clear that even if I do this I shall die? Yet see what the woman thought about blasphemy: she supposed it able to bring death at once. [Job 2:10] Verse 10: "If we have received good things from the hand of the Lord, shall we not bear the evil?" For this blessed man, struck from every side, stood the more securely, and receiving countless arrows he did not give way. He emptied the devil's quiver, but he himself did not fall nor was he tripped. Like an excellent pilot, he was not sunk when the sea raged and the waves rose, nor did he grow careless when it was calm; in either change of circumstances he kept his skill the same. Wealth did not puff him up, nor did poverty humble him; when affairs ran with the current he did not lie back at ease, and when almost his whole household was overturned and utter ruin came he was not thrown into confusion, nor did he disgrace his own courage. Let the rich hear, let the poor hear: the account is useful to both, and the story is profitable to all people, to those in prosperity and to those in misfortune. For the champion of piety, the crowned victor of the whole world, handled both kinds of weapons and set up his trophy in both; and against every kind of the demon's warfare
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Gen 3:6 (allusion, medium confidence) · Heb 10:37 (allusion, low confidence) · Job 2:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 2:10 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Job's wife spoke the devil's counsel, but Job, like a good pilot, stayed steady in prosperity and disaster alike.
- The section begins in mid-sentence; the beginning is lost in the scan.
- "Yet a little while": compare Heb 10:37 (quoting Isa 26:20 LXX); the identification is uncertain.
- "And how is it clear that even if I do this I shall die?" translates a garbled clause (δρώμενον) by sense.
- The comparison of Job with a pilot and the sentence "he emptied the devil's quiver" closely resemble the language of John Chrysostom; the catena's ascription of this passage to Origen is doubtful.
Cite (SBL): Origen, Frag. Job 61 (PG 17:61a–61d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-fragmenta-iob/59/#p-61). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek of Migne PG 17 (library-scan text); no public-domain English exists, so it was re-read against the Greek.
Chapter 63
63PG 17:64a–64d
ο πᾶσιν ἀνεκηρύττετο. Καὶ καθάπερ στρατιώτης γενς , καὶ είδὼς νυκτομαχεῖν, τειχομαχεῖν, πεζομα- , ναυμαχεῖν, καὶ τοξεύειν, καὶ δόρυ σείειν, καὶ κη, πημαιεη, ιιι... νιυςιυιιν, και οορυ σειειν, καὶ σφενδόναις καὶ ἀκοντίοις, καὶ παντὶ τρόπῳ μάχης «- πριγίνεσθαι τῆς ἐναντίων καὶ πανταγού τεῖν· οὕτω δὴ καὶ ὀ γενναῖος ἐκεῖνος ἅπαντα πειρασμὸν μετὰ πολλῆς ἦνεγκε τῆς ἀνδρίας, τὸν ἀπὸ ξιξοἰκετῶν. UO γὰρ ἦν ἀνθρωπίνη συμφορὰ, ἥ μὴ είς τὸ σῶμα ιξεκενώοη ικεινου. Ἀλλ( δμίως diuidi-nm; ὑπερηνέχθη τῶν δικτύων, καὶ ύῂλότερος γέγονε τῶν τοῦ διαβόλου καλάμων. Καὶ τὸδὴ ὁαύμαστότερον, ὅτι καὶ πάντα αὐτῷ, καὶ πάντα μεδ ύπέῷολῆςίκαί πάντα ὑφʼ ἓν. Μὴ γὰρ τοῦτο fons, ὅτι τοσαῦτα-’ἔπαθεν· ἀλλὰ πρόσθες, ὅτι οὐδὲ κατὰ μικρὸν, οὐδὲ εκ διαστήματος. ἀλλʼ ὐφὶν καὶ ὁμοῦ. Ού μικραδὲ αὕτη πειρασμῶν προσθήκη. Τῶν μὲν γὰρ ἄλλων ἕκαστος ἀνθρώπων πρῶτον μὲν οὐδεὶς ἂν εὑρεθείη πάντα ὑποἰ μείνας ὁμοῦ, ἀλλʼ εί καὶ πενίᾳ παλαίει, ὑγείας ἀπολαύει· ει δι καὶ πενίᾳ καὶ νόσῳ περιεπάρη. τιλλᾶ γυναικὸς πολλάκις ἀπήλαυσε παραμυθοομένηςτὰ δεινὰ, καὶ ἀντὶ λιμένος αὐτῷ γινομένης. Et.“ γυναικὸς ἀπήλαυσε τοιαύτης, ἀλλʼ οὐχ οὕτω σύμδόυλευθείσης ὀλέθρια, ἀλλʼ οὐχὶ καὶ τοὺς παῖδας ἁθρόον ἀπώλεσεν επανταςο εί δι καὶ ἀθρόον, ἀλλʼ οὐ τοιούτῳ τρόπῳ τελευτῆςο εί δὲκαὶ τοιούτῳ [τρόπῳ] τελευτῆς, ἀλλὰ φίλους ἔσχε παρακαλοῦντας· εί δὲ ob: ἔσχε ρακαλοῦντας, ἀλλʼ ούχὶ καὶ οὕτως ἐπεμβαίνοντας· εί δὲ καὶ ἐπεμβαίνοντας, ἁλλʼ οὐχὶ καὶ οἰκέτας ὀνειδίο ζοντας· εί δὲ καὶ ὀνειδίζοντας, ἀλλʼ ούχὶ καὶ είς τὸ πρόσωπον αὐτοῦ ἐμπτύοντας· εί δὲ καὶ είς τὸ πρόσωπον ὲμπτύοντας, ἀλλʼ οὐχὶ καὶ νόσῳ τοιαύτῃ περιεπάρει, ἀλλὰ δωματίου καὶ exii-.11; ἀπήλαύσε, ’καὶ οὐκ ἐπὶ τῆς κοπρίας ὲκάθητοʼ εἰ δὲ καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς εσχε τοὺς χεῖρα ὀρέγοντας, ἀλλʼ οὐχὶ καὶ Στίχ. ιαʼ. ῃαρεχέτοντρῇέικαᾳὶος ἐξ τῆς ἰξίας. χώρας προς Δ(ξιᾷζὸινο, ςελιφλὰζ δ Θαιιὶιὶνῶν 3363':- ._i§o¢, Bagoas (ξ Σαυέέων τύραίίνος, έωφάρ Μιναίων βασιλεύς. Φιλικὴ μὲν ἡ παρουσία σου,φιλικὴ δὲ ἠ παραίνεσις. Ἐλιφάζ· Θεός με διέσπειρε-ν. ἢ, Θεοῦ μου φαυλισμός. Θαιμὰν, ἔκλειψις αὐτῶν. Συφὰρ, σκοπὸς, ἢ φαυλισμός. Bonis, παλαίωσις, καὶ ἐπίδοξος. Σαυχαίων,ἁόολεσχία αὐτῶν. (ειδζετίξ ‘9‘" ζλὲῖιξτὲσιξζτεςέέέῑε, τρεῖς seu!“ αὑτοῦ τὰ κακὰ βάντα, τὰ {malacia-ra 'ui'zrqb, παγεἥνὲνντο ἕκαστος ἐκ τῆς ιδίας χώράς nixi- αυτ. Ἐάν τις ζητῇ, διὰ τί μετὰ τοσοῦτον χρόνον ol φίλοι παραγεγόνασιν, ὲννοείτω πρῶτον μὲν, ὅτι διαφόρους ᾤκουν χώρας, καὶ μετὰ πλεῖστον χρόνον πολλοὶ μὲν ἥκουσαν τσως, τὸ δὲ παράδοξον τῆς cup— φορᾶς καὶ ἄπιστον ἐδόκει, εί καὶ ἐπὶ κοπρίας ὀ Ἰὼσ
o pasin anekērytteto. Kai kathaper stratiōtēs gens , kai eidōs nyktomachein, teichomachein, pezoma- , naumachein, kai toxeuein, kai dory seiein, kai kē, pēmaieē, iii... niysiuiin, kai oory seiein, kai sphendonais kai akontiois, kai panti tropǭ machēs «- priginesthai tēs enantiōn kai pantagou tein; houtō dē kai o gennaios ekeinos hapanta peirasmon meta pollēs ēnenke tēs andrias, ton apo xixoiketōn. UO gar ēn anthrōpinē symphora, hē mē eis to sōma ixekenōoē ikeinou. All( dmiōs diuidi-nm? hyperēnechthē tōn diktyōn, kai yę̄loteros gegone tōn tou diabolou kalamōn. Kai todē hoaumastoteron, hoti kai panta autǭ, kai panta med ypeǭolēsikai panta hyphʼ hen. Mē gar touto fons, hoti tosauta-’epathen; alla prosthes, hoti oude kata mikron, oude ek diastēmatos. allʼ yphin kai homou. Ou mikrade hautē peirasmōn prosthēkē. Tōn men gar allōn hekastos anthrōpōn prōton men oudeis an heuretheiē panta hypoi meinas homou, allʼ ei kai penią palaiei, hygeias apolauei; ei di kai penią kai nosǭ perieparē. tilla gynaikos pollakis apēlause paramythoomenēsta deina, kai anti limenos autǭ ginomenēs. Et.“ gynaikos apēlause toiautēs, allʼ ouch houtō symdouleutheisēs olethria, allʼ ouchi kai tous paidas hathroon apōlesen epantaso ei di kai athroon, allʼ ou toioutǭ tropǭ teleutēso ei dekai toioutǭ [tropǭ] teleutēs, alla philous esche parakalountas; ei de ob: esche rakalountas, allʼ ouchi kai houtōs epembainontas; ei de kai epembainontas, hallʼ ouchi kai oiketas oneidio zontas; ei de kai oneidizontas, allʼ ouchi kai eis to prosōpon autou emptyontas; ei de kai eis to prosōpon emptyontas, allʼ ouchi kai nosǭ toiautę̄ perieparei, alla dōmatiou kai exii-.11? apēlause, ’kai ouk epi tēs koprias ekathētoʼ ei de kai epi tēs esche tous cheira oregontas, allʼ ouchi kai Stich. iaʼ. ę̄arechetontrę̄eikaąios ex tēs ixias. chōras pros D(xiązoino, seliphlaz d Thaiiiiinōn 3363':- ._i§o¢, Bagoas (x Saueeōn tyraiinos, eōphar Minaiōn basileus. Philikē men hē parousia sou,philikē de ē parainesis. Eliphaz; Theos me diespeire-n. ē, Theou mou phaulismos. Thaiman, ekleipsis autōn. Syphar, skopos, ē phaulismos. Bonis, palaiōsis, kai epidoxos. Sauchaiōn,haooleschia autōn. (eidzetix ‘9‘" zleiixtesixzteseeeie, treis seu!“ hautou ta kaka banta, ta {malacia-ra 'ui'zrqb, pageēnennto hekastos ek tēs idias chōras nixi- aut. Ean tis zētę̄, dia ti meta tosouton chronon ol philoi paragegonasin, ennoeitō prōton men, hoti diaphorous ǭkoun chōras, kai meta pleiston chronon polloi men hēkousan tsōs, to de paradoxon tēs cup— phoras kai apiston edokei, ei kai epi koprias o Iōs
… he was proclaimed victor before all. And just as a soldier … who knows how to fight by night, to fight at walls, to fight on foot and at sea, to shoot the bow and brandish the spear, and with slings and javelins and in every manner of fighting to overcome the enemy and to … everywhere, so that noble man bore every trial with great courage, including the one that came from his servants. For there was no human calamity that was not emptied out on his body. But nevertheless … he flew above the nets and rose higher than the devil's limed reeds. And what is more wonderful still is that everything came on him, and everything in excess, and everything at once. Do not say only that he suffered so many things; add that it was not little by little, nor at intervals, but at one time and together. This is no small addition to the trials. For among other people, first, no one would be found who endured everything together. If someone wrestles with poverty, he enjoys health; and if he is pierced with poverty and sickness together, he has often enjoyed a wife who consoled him in his troubles and became a harbor for him. And if he did enjoy such a wife, at least she did not give such ruinous counsel; and if she did, at least he did not lose all his children at once; and if at once, at least not by such a death; and if by such a death, at least he had friends to comfort him; and if he did not have friends to comfort him, at least they did not trample on him in this way; and if they trampled on him, at least his servants did not reproach him; and if they reproached him, at least they did not spit in his face; and if they spat in his face, at least he was not pierced with such a disease, but enjoyed a room and …, and did not sit on the dung heap; and if he did sit on the dung heap, he had those who stretched out a hand to him, but not also … [Job 2:11] Verse 11: "And they came to him, each from his own country: Eliphaz the king of the Temanites, Baldad the ruler of the Sauchaeans, Sophar the king of the Minaeans." Friendly was their coming, and friendly their exhortation. Eliphaz: "God has scattered me," or "contempt of my God." Teman: "their failing." Sophar: "watchman," or "contempt." Baldad: "aging," and "glorious." Sauchaeans: "their idle talk." [Job 2:11] "… [And the three friends] of his [heard] of all the evils that had come upon him, and they came each from his own country …" If anyone asks why the friends arrived after so long a time, let him consider, first, that they lived in different countries; and that many perhaps heard of it only after a very long time, while the strangeness of the calamity seemed incredible, that Job too was sitting on the dung heap
Job 2:11 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Job's trials came all at once and without the usual consolations, and his three friends came only after a long delay.
- The beginning of the section and several stretches of garbled OCR are marked "…"; a line about Job's servants ("the one that came from his servants") is translated by sense.
- The meanings given for the names (Eliphaz, Teman, Sophar, Baldad, Sauchaeans) come from the onomastic lists of Hebrew names used by Greek interpreters. The names of Baldad are garbled in the scan and read from the sense.
- The quotation of Job 2:11 is given twice in the catena; the second quotation is badly garbled and only its legible words are translated.
Cite (SBL): Origen, Frag. Job 63 (PG 17:64a–64d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-fragmenta-iob/59/#p-63). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 65
65PG 17:65a–65c
καὶ ἀνεπικούρητος κάθηται. Καὶ περιέμενον διὰ πλειόνων πιστώσασθαι τὴν ἀκοὴν, ἢ καὶ ἐκπέμψαι. καὶ ίδεῖν, εί καὶ ἀληθῆ τὰ λεγόμενα. Ἐν τούτοις οὖν ὁ χρόνος ἐτρίβετο. Πρὸς δὴ τούτοις, ὅτε τὸ ἀληθὲς ἔγνωσαν, βασιλεῖς ὄντες καὶ ἐκδημεῖν μέλλοντες, ἀνάγκην εἶχον πρότερον εὗ διαθεῖναι τά κατὰ τὸν οἷκον, καὶ ἐπιστῆσαι τοῖς ἀρχομένοις τοὺς ἀνθʼ ἑαυτῶν. Ταῦτα πάντα αὐτοὺς ἀπησχόλει, καὶ ἐνεβράδυνον. Καὶ εί μὴ σφόδρα γε ἀγαπητοί τινες ἦσαν καὶ δίκαιοι, ούκ ἂν, τὰς οἰκείας καταλιπόντες χώρας καὶ βασιλείας, ἀφικνοῦντο πρὸς τὴν ἐπίσκεψιν, ἀλλὰ διʼ ἐτέρων τήν χρείαν ἐπλήρουν. Ἐστι δὲ ἐννοεῖν, ὡς καὶ οἰκονομία τις ἦν θεία τῆς ἀφίξεως ἡ ἀναβολή. Ἐπειδὴ γὰρ ὁμοῦ τῇ τῶν φίλων διαλέξει καὶ τὸ πᾶν τοῦ ἀγῶνος ἐλύθη, τοῦ Θεοῦ χρηματίσαντος, καὶ τὸν δίκαιον ἀνακτησαμένου καὶ στεφανώσαντος, οἰκονομία τις γέγονε θεία, ἐμβραδῦναι τοὺς φίλους, ἵνα παραταθῇ τὰ τοῦ νοσήματος, καὶ μειζόνως ἀθλήσας ὁ δίκαιος, δικαιότερον ἀναρρηθῇ παρά τοῦ θεοῦ. Σμτλίχ. ιαʼ. _Kat παρεγένοντο πρὸς αὐτὸν ὁμοθυτοῦ παρακαλέσαι mea ἐπισκέψασθαι αυτον. Ὀ Σύμμαχος οὕτως ἐξέδωκε-ο ΣυνετάξΜο γὰρ ὁμοῦ ἐλθόντες συμπαθῆσιιι αὐτῷ, καὶ παραμυθήσασθαι αὐτόν. Ὅρα καὶ ἐντεῦθεν, ὡς καὶ ἕτερος παρῆλθε χρόνος, ἕως ὅτε, πρὸς ἀλλήλους διαπεμψάμενοι, τὴν ἐπὶ τὸ αὐτὸ σύνοδόν τε καὶ ἄφιξιν ἐποιήσαντο. Στίχ. ιβʼ. Kal καταπασᾴμενοι γῆν ἐπὶ τὰς Στίχ. ιγʼ. Παρεκάρισαν αὐτῷ ἑπτὰ ἡμέρας, καὶ Οὐκ εἷπε δέ ἡ Γραφὴ, ὅτι παρεκάθηντο ἐπτά ἡμέρας πρωῖθεν ἕως ἑσπέρας, οὐδὲ ἑπτὰ νύκτας ἀφʼ ἐσπέρας μέχρι πρωῒ. Δῆλον οὖν, ὅτι, τὸ πλεῖον τῆς ἡμέρας παρακαθεζόμενοι, ὑπεχώρουν τὰς ἀναγκαίας ἐκπληρώσοντες χρείας · καὶ πάλιν ἐπανήκοντες, μέχρι πολλοῦ τῆς νυκτὸς παρεκαθέζοντο, καὶ αὖθις ἀπιόντες, πάλιν ὥρθριζον πρὸς αὐτόν. '0 δὴ τῶν γνησιωτάτων καὶ συμπαθεστάτων φίλων ἴδιον. Τῇ δὲ κοινῇ συνηθείᾳ χρωμένη ή Γραφὴ, οὕτως ἀπολύτως εἶπε· Παρεκάοισαν αὐτῷ ἑπτὰ ἡμέρας καὶ ἑπτὰ νύκτας. Ἐπεὶ καὶ ὅτε λέγει τὸν Ἰακὼβ δεκατέσσαρα ἐτη δουλεῦσαι, καὶ συγκαίεσθαι τῷ καύσονι τῆς ἡμέρας καὶ τῷ παγετῷ τῆς νυκτὸς, ’ἆρα ὑπὸ στέί γην υύκ εἰσῄει ποτέ; ἆρα οὐδεμιᾶς ἀναπαύσεως ἔτυχεν ὅλῳ τῷ χρόνῳ; Ταῦτα μὲν οῦν καὶ λεπτολογεῖν φλύαρον. Ὠς γὰρ ἔφην, ἡ Γραφὴ κοινῇ συνηθείᾳ χρῆται. Ἐπειδὴ δέ τινες, κωμῳδοῦντες τὴν Γραφὴν, καὶ ἐντεῦθεν αὐτὴν ὡς ψευδῆ διασύρουσιν ’ίις γὰρ ἂν, φασιν, ἄσιτοι διετέλουν καὶ ἀῦπνοι ἐπὶ τοσαύταις ήμέραις; ἠναγκάσθημεν αὐτῶν συναπαχθιῖψαι τῇ ἀκαίρῳ στενοχωρίᾳ. Ἀλλʼ ἐν τούτοις μὲν τὸ δεύτερον ἧνυσται κεφάλαιονο τοῦ τρίτου δὲ προθεωρίαν ποιούμενοι, φαμὲν,
kai anepikourētos kathētai. Kai periemenon dia pleionōn pistōsasthai tēn akoēn, ē kai ekpempsai. kai idein, ei kai alēthē ta legomena. En toutois oun ho chronos etribeto. Pros dē toutois, hote to alēthes egnōsan, basileis ontes kai ekdēmein mellontes, anankēn eichon proteron heu diatheinai ta kata ton hoikon, kai epistēsai tois archomenois tous anthʼ heautōn. Tauta panta autous apēscholei, kai enebradynon. Kai ei mē sphodra ge agapētoi tines ēsan kai dikaioi, ouk an, tas oikeias katalipontes chōras kai basileias, aphiknounto pros tēn episkepsin, alla diʼ eterōn tēn chreian eplēroun. Esti de ennoein, hōs kai oikonomia tis ēn theia tēs aphixeōs hē anabolē. Epeidē gar homou tę̄ tōn philōn dialexei kai to pan tou agōnos elythē, tou Theou chrēmatisantos, kai ton dikaion anaktēsamenou kai stephanōsantos, oikonomia tis gegone theia, embradynai tous philous, hina paratathę̄ ta tou nosēmatos, kai meizonōs athlēsas ho dikaios, dikaioteron anarrēthę̄ para tou theou. Smtlich. iaʼ. _Kat paregenonto pros auton homothytou parakalesai mea episkepsasthai auton. O Symmachos houtōs exedōke-o SynetaxMo gar homou elthontes sympathēsiii autǭ, kai paramythēsasthai auton. Hora kai enteuthen, hōs kai heteros parēlthe chronos, heōs hote, pros allēlous diapempsamenoi, tēn epi to auto synodon te kai aphixin epoiēsanto. Stich. ibʼ. Kal katapasąmenoi gēn epi tas Stich. igʼ. Parekarisan autǭ hepta hēmeras, kai Ouk heipe de hē Graphē, hoti parekathēnto epta hēmeras prōithen heōs hesperas, oude hepta nyktas aphʼ esperas mechri prōï. Dēlon oun, hoti, to pleion tēs hēmeras parakathezomenoi, hypechōroun tas anankaias ekplērōsontes chreias ; kai palin epanēkontes, mechri pollou tēs nyktos parekathezonto, kai authis apiontes, palin hōrthrizon pros auton. '0 dē tōn gnēsiōtatōn kai sympathestatōn philōn idion. Tę̄ de koinę̄ synētheią chrōmenē ē Graphē, houtōs apolytōs eipe; Parekaoisan autǭ hepta hēmeras kai hepta nyktas. Epei kai hote legei ton Iakōb dekatessara etē douleusai, kai synkaiesthai tǭ kausoni tēs hēmeras kai tǭ pagetǭ tēs nyktos, ’ara hypo stei gēn yyk eisę̄ei pote? ara oudemias anapauseōs etychen holǭ tǭ chronǭ? Tauta men oun kai leptologein phlyaron. Ōs gar ephēn, hē Graphē koinę̄ synētheią chrētai. Epeidē de tines, kōmǭdountes tēn Graphēn, kai enteuthen autēn hōs pseudē diasyrousin ’iis gar an, phasin, asitoi dieteloun kai aupnoi epi tosautais ēmerais? ēnankasthēmen autōn synapachthiipsai tę̄ akairǭ stenochōrią. Allʼ en toutois men to deuteron hēnystai kephalaiono tou tritou de protheōrian poioumenoi, phamen,
… and without help. And they waited to confirm the report through more witnesses, or even to send someone to see whether what was said was true. In these things, then, the time passed. Besides, when they knew the truth, being kings and about to travel abroad, they had first to settle the affairs of their household and set others over their subjects in their place. All these things kept them busy, and they were delayed. And unless they had been very loving and righteous men, they would not have left their own countries and kingdoms to come and visit, but would have met the need through others. One may also consider that the delay of their arrival was a divine dispensation. For since the whole contest ended together with the friends' discussion, when God gave his answer and restored and crowned the righteous man, it was a divine dispensation that the friends were slow to come, so that the course of the disease might be prolonged and the righteous man, having contended the more, might be proclaimed by God the more justly. [Job 2:11] Verse 11: "And they came to him together, to comfort and to visit him." Symmachus rendered it thus: "For they arranged to come together, to sympathize with him and to console him." See from this too that further time passed, until, sending messages to one another, they made their meeting and their arrival together. [Job 2:12] Verse 12: "And sprinkling earth on their [heads] …" [Job 2:13] Verse 13: "They sat beside him seven days and …" The Scripture did not say that they sat beside him seven days from early morning until evening, nor seven nights from evening until morning. It is clear, then, that after sitting beside him for the greater part of the day they withdrew to see to their necessary needs, and coming back they sat beside him far into the night, and going away again they came back to him at dawn. This is the mark of the truest and most sympathetic friends. But the Scripture, using ordinary speech, said simply: "They sat beside him seven days and seven nights." For when it says that Jacob served fourteen years and was burned by the heat of the day and the frost of the night, did he then never go under a roof? Did he get no rest in all that time? To split hairs over these things is idle talk; for, as I said, the Scripture uses ordinary speech. But since some, mocking the Scripture, tear at it as false on this point too ("For how," they say, "could they go without food and without sleep for so many days?"), we were compelled to be drawn along with them into this untimely narrowness. With this the second chapter is finished; and making a preliminary survey of the third, we say
Job 2:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 2:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 2:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 31:40 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 31:41 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The friends' delay had practical causes and a providential purpose, and their seven days with Job are ordinary speech, not a claim that they never ate or slept.
- Symmachus: the Greek translation of the Old Testament made by Symmachus in the second century.
- Jacob's service: Gen 31:38–41.
- The quotations of Job 2:12 and 2:13 are cut short in the scan.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (footnote marker leaked into the text): με) → .
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Origen, Frag. Job 65 (PG 17:65a–65c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-fragmenta-iob/59/#p-65). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 67
67PG 17:68a–68d
ὡς ἀλγεῖ μὲν ό δίκαιος, καὶ οὐκ ἂν τις ἀρνήσαιτο· οὐ γὰρ τῶν ἀναισθήτων ἡ ἀρετὴ, ἀλλὰ. τῶν ιν τοῖς πάθεσι φιλοσοφούντων. Ού δύναται δὲ, κατὰ μὶν τὸ φαινόμενον, ὑπὸ τῆς ιν σαρκὶ πληγῆς δριμυτάτως κεντούμενος· κατὰ δὲ τὸ νοούμενον, οἷα δίκαιος καὶ φιλόθεος ἀνὴρ δρῶν τινας σκανδαλιζομένσυς ἐπὶ τοῖς αὐτῶν παθήμασιν, ὡς τῆς τοῦ Θεοῦ δόξης ἐπʼ αὐτῷ διασυρομένης, εί ό δίκαιος ταῦτα ὑπομένει. Kal. γὰρ ὅτε λέγει· Ἵνα τί ἔθου με κατʼ ἐντευκτήν 00v; οὐκ αὐτὸς κατὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ ἐτύγχανε, μὴ γένοιτοῖ τίνι γὰρ εἶχεν ὶντυγχάνεινς Ἀλλὰ τοῦτό ἐστιν ὃ φησινʼ ’Ὶνα τί διʼ tul, Δέσποτα, τδ ὄνομά σου placo-qustum Θορυβεῖται δὲ οὐδὲν ἦττον καὶ mm;, μηπιικ πλείως ὲγκατάλειψιν ὑπέστη παρὰ Θεοῦ. Οὐδὲ γὰρ οὕτω τιμωρεῖται ψυχὴ φιλόθεος, ὥς τὸ ὑποπτεύειν καταλελεῖφθαι παρὰ Θεοῦ· καὶ μυριάκις αἱρεῖται τδν θάνατον, ἢ μετὰ ἀλγηδόνων καὶ τοιαύτης ὑποψίας τοῖς ζῶσιν ἐγκαταλέγεσθαι. Ἐπὶ μὲν οῦν τῇ τῶν κτημάτων ἀπωλείᾳ καὶ τῇ τῶν παίδων ἁθρόα τελευτῇ οἵας ἀφῆκε χαριστηρίους φωνὰς ἠκούσαμεν, καὶ ὅπως τὴν γυναῖκα ὲξεπαίδευσεν ἀπρεπές τι περὶ τοῦ Δεσπότου λογισαμένην, καὶ ποῖα μετὰ πεῖραν καὶ ὲξουδένωσιν καὶτὸ δριμὺ πάθος ἐφθέγξατο, καὶ ὡς οὐδὲν αὑτὸν τῶν ἁνθρωπίνων συμπτωμάτων διεθορύβησεν· ὡς δὲ oi φίλοι παρεγένοντο ᾶνδρες δίκαιοι καὶ συμπαθεῖς, εὗκαιρον ᾠήθη, θεωρῶν αὐτῶν τὴν ὑπομονὴν καὶ τὴν ἀγάπην ἐπʼ αὐτῶν, εἰπεῖν καὶ δημοσιεῦσαι τὰς κατὰ ψυχὴν ἀλγηδόνας, καὶ φθέγγεται μὲν καθʼ ἱστορίαν ἀκίνδυνον. Ἐν γὰρ ἦν τοῦ διαβόλου τὸ σπούδασμα, τδ παρασκευάσαι τὸν δίκαιον βλασφημῆσαι Θεόν. '0 δὲ οὖδαμῶς φαίνεται τοῦτο διαπραξάμενος, ἀλλὰ καὶ μᾶλλον εὐφημήσας. καὶ χαριστηρίους ἁναπέμψας φωνάς. Καταρίται δὲ τὴν ἡμέραν τῆς γεννήσεως, καὶτὸν θάνατον ὲπιποθεῖ, διὰ τὰς ἀνωτέρω λεχθείσας αἰτίας. Πρὸς δὲ διάνοιαν μυστήρια λαλεῖ· καὶ περὶ τῶν ἤδη προγεγονότων φιλοσοφεῖ, καὶ πληροφορεῖ τὺ μέλλον. Τοιαῦται γὰρ ἀεὶ τῶν ἁγίων προφητῶν αἱ ῥήσεις. Ἐπὶ δὲ αὐτῶν τῶν λέξεων γενόμενοι, σαφηνὶσωμεν τὴν διάνοιαν, αὐτοῦ Μηγοῦντος πρὸς τὴν ἑρμηνείαν, τοῦ καὶ τὸν ἃγιον ’1ὼὸ πρὸς τοὺς ἀγῶνας ἐνισχύσαντος. Στίχ. αʼ. Μετὰ τοῦτο ἤνοιξεν Ἰὼβ τὸ στόμα αὑτοῦ. Ὅτι δίκαιος ἀνοίγει τὸ στόμα, οὐχ ἁπλῶς οὑτωσὶ προσήκει προσέχειν τοῖς λεγομένοις, ἀλλὰ τὰ ὲκ τῶν λόγων ἀναζητεῖν ὠφέλειαν. Μεστὰ γὰρ ἀεὶ ὠφελείας τά τοιαῦτα ῥήματα τῶν ἁγίωνο καὶ ἀνοίγων τὸ στόμα δίκαιος, κεκρυμμένους δημοσιεύει θησαυρούς. Διὸ καὶ τὸ σκεῦος τῆς ἐκλογῆς ό Παῦλος ἐπιστέλλων φησίο Τὸ στόμα μου ἀνέῳγε πρὸς ὑμᾶς. Κορίνθιοι. Καὶ περὶ τοῦ Κυρίου γέγραπται ὅτι Ἁνοίξας τὸ στόμα αὐτοῦ ἐδίδασκε. Καὶ ἁπλῶς ἐκεῖνος μαρτυρεῖται στόμα ἀνοίγειν, ό σιωπῆς μέτρα πρότερον διδαχθείς. Οὐκοῦν καὶ ’1ὼὸ ἀνοίγει τὸ στόμα
hōs algei men o dikaios, kai ouk an tis arnēsaito; ou gar tōn anaisthētōn hē aretē, alla. tōn in tois pathesi philosophountōn. Ou dynatai de, kata min to phainomenon, hypo tēs in sarki plēgēs drimytatōs kentoumenos; kata de to nooumenon, hoia dikaios kai philotheos anēr drōn tinas skandalizomensys epi tois autōn pathēmasin, hōs tēs tou Theou doxēs epʼ autǭ diasyromenēs, ei o dikaios tauta hypomenei. Kal. gar hote legei; Hina ti ethou me katʼ enteuktēn 00v? ouk autos kata tou Theou etynchane, mē genoitoi tini gar eichen intynchaneins Alla touto estin ho phēsinʼ ’Ina ti diʼ tul, Despota, td onoma sou placo-qustum Thorybeitai de ouden ētton kai mm?, mēpiik pleiōs enkataleipsin hypestē para Theou. Oude gar houtō timōreitai psychē philotheos, hōs to hypopteuein kataleleiphthai para Theou; kai myriakis haireitai tdn thanaton, ē meta algēdonōn kai toiautēs hypopsias tois zōsin enkatalegesthai. Epi men oun tę̄ tōn ktēmatōn apōleią kai tę̄ tōn paidōn hathroa teleutę̄ hoias aphēke charistērious phōnas ēkousamen, kai hopōs tēn gynaika exepaideusen aprepes ti peri tou Despotou logisamenēn, kai poia meta peiran kai exoudenōsin kaito drimy pathos ephthenxato, kai hōs ouden hauton tōn hanthrōpinōn symptōmatōn diethorybēsen; hōs de oi philoi paregenonto andres dikaioi kai sympatheis, heukairon ǭēthē, theōrōn autōn tēn hypomonēn kai tēn agapēn epʼ autōn, eipein kai dēmosieusai tas kata psychēn algēdonas, kai phthengetai men kathʼ historian akindynon. En gar ēn tou diabolou to spoudasma, td paraskeuasai ton dikaion blasphēmēsai Theon. '0 de oudamōs phainetai touto diapraxamenos, alla kai mallon euphēmēsas. kai charistērious hanapempsas phōnas. Kataritai de tēn hēmeran tēs gennēseōs, kaiton thanaton epipothei, dia tas anōterō lechtheisas aitias. Pros de dianoian mystēria lalei; kai peri tōn ēdē progegonotōn philosophei, kai plērophorei ty mellon. Toiautai gar aei tōn hagiōn prophētōn hai rhēseis. Epi de autōn tōn lexeōn genomenoi, saphēnisōmen tēn dianoian, autou Mēgountos pros tēn hermēneian, tou kai ton hagion ’1ōo pros tous agōnas enischysantos. Stich. aʼ. Meta touto ēnoixen Iōb to stoma hautou. Hoti dikaios anoigei to stoma, ouch haplōs houtōsi prosēkei prosechein tois legomenois, alla ta ek tōn logōn anazētein ōpheleian. Mesta gar aei ōpheleias ta toiauta rhēmata tōn hagiōno kai anoigōn to stoma dikaios, kekrymmenous dēmosieuei thēsaurous. Dio kai to skeuos tēs eklogēs o Paulos epistellōn phēsio To stoma mou aneǭge pros hymas. Korinthioi. Kai peri tou Kyriou gegraptai hoti Hanoixas to stoma autou edidaske. Kai haplōs ekeinos martyreitai stoma anoigein, o siōpēs metra proteron didachtheis. Oukoun kai ’1ōo anoigei to stoma
that the righteous man is in pain, no one could deny; for virtue belongs not to those who feel nothing but to those who live wisely in their sufferings. He is in anguish: outwardly, being stung most sharply by the blow in his flesh; inwardly, as a righteous and God-loving man, seeing some scandalized at his sufferings, as though God's glory were disparaged in him if the righteous man endures these things. For when he says, "Why have you set me as your accuser?", he was not himself acting against God (far from it! for with whom did he have to plead?), but this is what he says: "Why, Master, is your name slandered because of me?" And he is troubled no less by the fear that perhaps he had been abandoned by God. For nothing punishes a God-loving soul so much as suspecting that it has been abandoned by God; it would choose death ten thousand times rather than be counted among the living with pains and such a suspicion. At the loss of his possessions and the sudden death of his children we have heard what thankful words he uttered, and how he instructed his wife when she thought something unseemly about the Master, and what he said after the trial, the contempt and the sharp suffering, and how nothing of human misfortunes troubled him. But when his friends came, righteous and sympathetic men, he thought it the right moment, seeing their patience and their love toward him, to speak and make public the pains of his soul; and according to the literal sense he speaks without danger. For the devil's one aim was to bring the righteous man to blaspheme God; but he is in no way seen to have achieved this; rather Job spoke well of God and sent up thankful words. He curses the day of his birth and longs for death for the reasons stated above. But according to the deeper meaning he speaks mysteries: he reflects on things that have already happened and gives full assurance about what is to come. For such always are the sayings of the holy prophets. Coming now to the words themselves, let us make the meaning clear, with him guiding us to the interpretation who also strengthened holy Job for his contests. [Job 3:1] Verse 1: "After this Job opened his mouth." That a righteous man opens his mouth: one should not attend to what is said casually, but seek out the benefit from the words. For such words of the saints are always full of benefit, and when a righteous man opens his mouth he brings hidden treasures into the open. Therefore the vessel of election, Paul, says in his letter: "Our mouth is opened to you, Corinthians." And of the Lord it is written that "opening his mouth he taught." In short, the one who is attested to open his mouth is the one who was first taught the measures of silence. So Job too opens his mouth
Job 7:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 1:21 (allusion, medium confidence) · Job 2:10 (allusion, medium confidence) · Job 3:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 9:15 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 6:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 5:2 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Job suffered both in body and in his fear that God's name was slandered through him, yet he never blasphemed, and when he opened his mouth he spoke mysteries.
- "He is in anguish" reads Ὀδυνᾶται, which the scan gives as Οὐ δύναται ("he cannot"); "by the fear that perhaps he had been abandoned" translates a garbled clause by sense.
- "Why have you set me as your accuser?": Job 7:20 (Septuagint). "Our mouth is opened to you, Corinthians": 2 Cor 6:11. "Opening his mouth he taught": Matt 5:2. "Vessel of election": Acts 9:15.
- Migne's footnotes, leaked into the end of the section, have been removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's footnotes leaked into the text; footnote marker leaked into the text): 32) Τῷ. 35) Forte αὑτόδ. (δι) Forte τήν. → ; τὰ (δι) ὲκ → τὰ ὲκ.
Cite (SBL): Origen, Frag. Job 67 (PG 17:68a–68d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-fragmenta-iob/59/#p-67). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek of Migne PG 17 (library-scan text); no public-domain English exists, so it was re-read against the Greek.
Chapter 69
69PG 17:69a–69d
μετὰ τοῦτο· τουτέστι μετὰ τδ μέγα τρόπαιον, μετʼ ἐκεῖνα τὰ πάθη, οὐκ ἀβασανίστως φθέγγεται περιαλγῶν τῷ σώματι, τῆς γλώσσης φθανούσης τὸ τῆς φρονή σεως ἔνθεσμον, ἀλλὰ σωφρονῶν καὶ ταῖς φωναῖς ὑποδείκνυται. Δηλοῖ δέ καὶ τὴν γαλήνην τῆς ψυχῆς καὶτῶν ῥημάτων τδ ἐμπρεπὲς ἠ τοῦ ἀνοῖξαι τὸ στόμα αὐτοῦ μαρτυρία. Στίχ. αʼ. Ἕως τίνος ἐγκοπον ποιήσετε ψυχήν Ὥσπερ σώματα βαρέα ἐπιτιθέμενα ζώων σῶμα· σιν, κάμνειν ποιεῖν τά βαστάζοντα· οὕτως είσί τινες λόγοι βαρεῖς, οὒς ἀκούσας τις κάμνει. Ὠς ὑπὸ βάρους πιεζόμενος, τῆς δυνάμεως τῶν λόγων τῶν οὐ κακῶς, καὶ χαλεπῶς, ἢ ἐπὶ λοιδορίας εἰρημένων ὑπὸ τῶν ἄλλων δύο μετὰ Βαλδὰὸ ἐληλυθότων, οἱονεὶ φορτίου αἴσθησις βαρέος, 6 Ἰὼβ φησι καμὼν τῇ ψυχῇ ἐφʼ οἷς εἰρήκασιν· Ἕως τινος ἔγκοπον ποιήσετε ψυχήν μου ;- Καὶ μετʼ ὀλίγον · ὐρᾷς ὡς προγέγραπται 6 Σαυχαίων τύραννος. Τυραννικοὶ αὑτοῦ εἰσιν οί λόγοι, οὓς ἀκούσας 6 Ἰὼβ, λέγει·”Εω τίνος ἕγκοπον ποιήσετε τὴν ψυχήν μου; Οὐχ οὕτως καθικνεῖται ψυχῆς ἀνθρώπου ἄλλο τι, ὡς λόγος σκληρός. Πολλάκις ὑπομείνας τὰς βασάνους σώματι προσφερομένας, λόγους οὐχ ὑπέμεινεν. Ὁ μέντοιγε τέλειος ἀθλητὴς, εί καὶ κάμνων, ἀλλʼ ὑπομένει τοὺς χαλεποὺς λόγους. Ὕβριν γὰρ ὑπομένειν μεγάλου ἀνδρός ἐστιν. Διόπερ ἐν τοῖς ἀνδραγαθήμασιν ἑαυτοῦ 6 Ἀπόστολος λέγει ο Δοιδορούμενοι εὐλογοῦμεν, διωκόμενοι ἀνεχόμεθα, δυσφημούμενοι παρακαλοῦμεν. ’Ὠσπερ καθάρματα τοῦ κόσμου ἐγενήθημεν, πάντων περίψημα ἕως ἄρτι. Καὶ μετʼ ὀλίγον φησὶν εἶτα, διὰ τὸ, Ἕως τίνος ἕγκοστον ποιήο σετε ψυχήν μου; Ὁρᾷς; Ἰὼβ ἐστιν, οὗ καὶτὸ βιβλίον οὐδὲν ἄλλο ἐξαιρέτως περιέχει ἢ τὴν ἀνδρίαν αὐτοῦ καὶ τὴν ὑπομονήν. Ἀλλʼ ὅμως αἰσθάνεται τῶν καμάτων, ὧν κεκμήκει άπὸ τοῦ λόγου τοῦ σκληροῦ τῶν ἐληλυθότων αὐτὸν ἐπισκοπῆσαι. Στίχ. γʼ. Γνῶτειιὲόῖἓζῶἕτι ό Κύριος ἐποίησέ Ἀ βλέπετε περὶ ἐμὲ, μὴ νομίσητε ἄλλοθεν ἐληλυθέναι μοι ἢ ἀπὸ τοῦ Θεοῦ. Φοβήθητε τοίνυν. Ὅ γὰρ ἐμοὶ ταῦτα ἐπάγων δύναται καὶ ὑμῖν ἐπαγαγεῖν. Στίχ. γʼ. Καταλαλεῖτέ μου · οὐκ αἰσχυνόμενοι με,
meta touto; toutesti meta td mega tropaion, metʼ ekeina ta pathē, ouk abasanistōs phthengetai perialgōn tǭ sōmati, tēs glōssēs phthanousēs to tēs phronē seōs enthesmon, alla sōphronōn kai tais phōnais hypodeiknytai. Dēloi de kai tēn galēnēn tēs psychēs kaitōn rhēmatōn td emprepes ē tou anoixai to stoma autou martyria. Stich. aʼ. Heōs tinos enkopon poiēsete psychēn Hōsper sōmata barea epitithemena zōōn sōma; sin, kamnein poiein ta bastazonta; houtōs eisi tines logoi bareis, ous akousas tis kamnei. Ōs hypo barous piezomenos, tēs dynameōs tōn logōn tōn ou kakōs, kai chalepōs, ē epi loidorias eirēmenōn hypo tōn allōn dyo meta Baldao elēlythotōn, hoionei phortiou aisthēsis bareos, 6 Iōb phēsi kamōn tę̄ psychę̄ ephʼ hois eirēkasin; Heōs tinos enkopon poiēsete psychēn mou ?- Kai metʼ oligon ; yrąs hōs progegraptai 6 Sauchaiōn tyrannos. Tyrannikoi hautou eisin oi logoi, hous akousas 6 Iōb, legei;”Eō tinos henkopon poiēsete tēn psychēn mou? Ouch houtōs kathikneitai psychēs anthrōpou allo ti, hōs logos sklēros. Pollakis hypomeinas tas basanous sōmati prospheromenas, logous ouch hypemeinen. Ho mentoige teleios athlētēs, ei kai kamnōn, allʼ hypomenei tous chalepous logous. Hybrin gar hypomenein megalou andros estin. Dioper en tois andragathēmasin heautou 6 Apostolos legei o Doidoroumenoi eulogoumen, diōkomenoi anechometha, dysphēmoumenoi parakaloumen. ’Ōsper katharmata tou kosmou egenēthēmen, pantōn peripsēma heōs arti. Kai metʼ oligon phēsin eita, dia to, Heōs tinos henkoston poiēo sete psychēn mou? Horąs? Iōb estin, hou kaito biblion ouden allo exairetōs periechei ē tēn andrian autou kai tēn hypomonēn. Allʼ homōs aisthanetai tōn kamatōn, hōn kekmēkei apo tou logou tou sklērou tōn elēlythotōn auton episkopēsai. Stich. gʼ. Gnōteiieoiezōeti o Kyrios epoiēse A blepete peri eme, mē nomisēte allothen elēlythenai moi ē apo tou Theou. Phobēthēte toinyn. Ho gar emoi tauta epagōn dynatai kai hymin epagagein. Stich. gʼ. Katalaleite mou ; ouk aischynomenoi me,
after this: that is, after the great trophy, after those sufferings. He does not speak without torment, being in great pain in his body, so that his tongue might outrun the lawful order of his mind; yet he shows by his words that he is self-controlled. The testimony that he "opened his mouth" shows both the calm of his soul and the fittingness of his words. [Job 19:2] Verse 2: "How long will you make my soul weary?" Just as heavy loads placed on animals' bodies make those that carry them weary, so there are heavy words, on hearing which one grows weary, as if pressed down by a weight. Feeling the force of the words spoken (not kindly but harshly, or in reproach) by the other two who had come with Baldad as if it were a heavy burden, Job, wearied in his soul by what they had said, says: "How long will you make my soul weary?" And a little later: You see how the ruler of the Sauchaeans was described beforehand. His words are tyrannical; and hearing them Job says: "How long will you make my soul weary?" Nothing reaches a person's soul so much as a hard word. Often one who has endured tortures applied to his body has not endured words. Yet the perfect athlete, even if he grows weary, endures harsh words; for to endure insult is the mark of a great man. That is why, among his own brave deeds, the apostle says: "Being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we endure; being slandered, we entreat. We have become like the refuse of the world, the offscouring of all things, until now." And a little later he says next, on "How long will you make my soul weary?": Do you see? It is Job, whose book contains nothing else so particularly as his courage and his patience; and yet he feels the weariness that the hard word of those who had come to visit him caused him. [Job 19:6] Verse 6: "Know, then, that it is the Lord who has done it." What you see in me, do not think it has come on me from anywhere but from God. Fear, then; for he who brings these things on me can bring them on you as well. [Job 19:3] Verse 3: "You speak against me, not ashamed of me,"
Job 3:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 19:2 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 4:12 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 4:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 19:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 19:3 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Job, after the trophy of his patience, still felt the weight of his friends' hard words, as Paul endured reviling.
- After the comment on Job 3:1 the fragments pass directly to Job 19, the reply to Baldad; the scan shows possible lost lines here.
- The catena numbers the quotation "Know, then, that it is the Lord who has done it" as verse 3; it is Job 19:6 (Septuagint).
- "Being reviled, we bless …": 1 Cor 4:12–13.
Cite (SBL): Origen, Frag. Job 69 (PG 17:69a–69d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-fragmenta-iob/59/#p-69). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 71
71PG 17:72a–72d
λαμβάνεται, ὃτι διὰ τά ἁμαρτήματα ταῦτα πάσχωο ἆρʼ οὖν ἐχρῆν ὑμᾶς οὕτω μοι όνειδίζειν; Πυρʼ ἐμοὶ δὲ αὐλίζεται πλάνος. Εἰ καὶ καθʼ ὑπόθεσιν τοιαῦτα ιπεποιήκειν, οἷα οὐκ εδει· ει καὶ τοιοῦτος ήμην, ἆρʼ οὐκ ἐχρῆν ὑμᾶς βλέποντας μάστιγας, τοὺς ίχῶρας, τοὺς σκώληκας, τὴν ἀπώλειαν τῶν ὑπαρχόντων, αίδεσθῆναις Ἀλλά προσεπιβαίνετέ μοι μὴ ἐλεοῦντες με, μηδὲ συμπαθοῦντές μου τῇ περιστάσει. falx. εʼ. Ἔα δὲ, ὅτι ἐπʼ ἐμοί Malm, ἐνάλλεσθε δέ μοι ὀνείδει. Οὔ μετρίως μοι ὀνειδίζετε, ἀλλʼ ἐναλλόμενοι· ὡσπερεὶ ἐπιβαίνοντες καὶ καταπατοῦντες με ὀνειδίζετε. Στίχ. ςʼ. Ὸχύρωμα δὲ αὐτοῦ ἐπʼ ἐμὲ ὕψωσεν. Οίονεὶ ὑπὸ τεῖχος τῆς περιστάσεὼς ειμι ὀχύρωμα, οὐ δύναμαι φεύγειν, ῑως οῦ κρινεῖ ό Θεὸς καθελεῖν αὑτό. Στίχ. ζʼ. Ἰδοὺ γελῶ ὀνείδει, καί οὐ λαλήσω. Τοῦτό ἐστι τό· Νίκα ἐν τῷ ἀταθῷ τὸ κακόν. τοῦ αὑτοῦ. Ἰδοὺ ἐπὶ τῷ ὀνείδει ὑμῶν τελᾷν, οὐ λαλεῖν νομίζομαι. sax. ςʼ. fear ἀναβῇ είς οὐρᾳνὸνε αὑτοῦ τὰ δῶέὶα· ἠ δὲ θυσία αὑτοῦ νεφῶν ἅψηται. Τοῦ ἀσεβοῦς ὲάν ἀναβῇ τά δῶρα είς τὸν οὐρανὸν, ἐὰν πάνυ ὑψωθῇ, ἐὰν ὴ θυσία αὑτοῦ νεφῶν ἅψηται. ’οτʼ ἂν εὔξηται ό αἱρετικὸς, ὅτʼ ἂν ὴ θυσία αὑτοῦ ἀναβῇ τῇ ὑψηγορίᾳ, ὅτʼ ἂν δοκῇ κατεστηρίχθαιʼ τότε είς τέλος ἀπολεῖται. Ἠ γὰρ εὐχὴ αὑτοῦ λοτέξεται αὐτῷ εις ἁμαρτίαν, καί ἐστιν αὐτὴ ἡ εὐχὴ β insitos"; ἁμαρτία. Στίχ. ζʼ. Ὅταν γὰρ. δοκῇ ἤδηλέστηρίχθαι, τότε εις τέλος ἀπολεῖται. Ὅμοιον, οι δὲ ἐχθροί τοῦ Kvplov ἅμα τῷ δοξασθῆναι καί ὑψωθῆναι, ἐκλείποντες ὡσεὶ καπνὸς ἐξέλιπον. Στίχ. ζʼ. οι δὲ ἰδόντες αὐτὸν ἐροῦσιθ Ποῦ ἔστινὶ Τίνες οἱ ἰδόντες αὐτόνης Oi ὲκκλησιαστικοὶ, οἱ ἰδόντες ἐκείνων τά σφάλματα, ὲροῦμεψ Ποῦ iactv; Στίχ. ηʼ. Ὠσπερ ἐνιξειννὸο]ρ ἐκπετασθὲν οὑ μὴ svos η. ευρευῃ, Ol τοιοῦτοι ἐνυπνιαζόμενοι, καὶ άναπλάσσοντες φαντάσματα, οὐ τῇ ἀληθείᾳ τὴν διάνοιαν ἐπερείδουσιν σφαλλόμενοι, καὶ γίνονται ὥσπερ ἐνύπνιον ἐκπετασθὲν, ὃ οὐ μὴ εὑρεθῇ. Στίχ. ιʼ. Τοὺς υιοὺς αὑτοῦ ὀλέσαισαν ἣττονες. Τοὺς υἱοὺς καὶ μαθητὰς τοῦ ταῦτα διδάξαντος. Στίχ. ιʼ. Δὶ δὲ χὲἒρες αὑτοῦ πυρσεύσαισαν υναο. υνας, Δί χεῖρες αὐτοῦ, φησὶν, τουτέστιν ai πράξεις, ἐξάψουσιν αὐτῷ κόλασιν. Al δὲ χεῖρες αὑτοῦ. Τοῦ ἀσεβοῦς τούτου καὶ ἑσφάλμένου, οὗ ἡ προσευχὴ λογίζεται εἰς ἀμαρτίαν, οὗ ἠ θυσία ἐὰν ἀναβῇ είς οὐρανὸν, καί νεφῶν
lambanetai, hoti dia ta hamartēmata tauta paschōo arʼ oun echrēn hymas houtō moi oneidizein? Pyrʼ emoi de aulizetai planos. Ei kai kathʼ hypothesin toiauta ipepoiēkein, hoia ouk edei; ei kai toioutos ēmēn, arʼ ouk echrēn hymas blepontas mastigas, tous ichōras, tous skōlēkas, tēn apōleian tōn hyparchontōn, aidesthēnais Alla prosepibainete moi mē eleountes me, mēde sympathountes mou tę̄ peristasei. falx. eʼ. Ea de, hoti epʼ emoi Malm, enallesthe de moi oneidei. Ou metriōs moi oneidizete, allʼ enallomenoi; hōsperei epibainontes kai katapatountes me oneidizete. Stich. sʼ. Ochyrōma de autou epʼ eme hypsōsen. Oionei hypo teichos tēs peristaseōs eimi ochyrōma, ou dynamai pheugein, iōs ou krinei o Theos kathelein hauto. Stich. zʼ. Idou gelō oneidei, kai ou lalēsō. Touto esti to; Nika en tǭ atathǭ to kakon. tou hautou. Idou epi tǭ oneidei hymōn teląn, ou lalein nomizomai. sax. sʼ. fear anabę̄ eis ourąnone hautou ta dōeia; ē de thysia hautou nephōn hapsētai. Tou asebous ean anabę̄ ta dōra eis ton ouranon, ean pany hypsōthę̄, ean ē thysia hautou nephōn hapsētai. ’otʼ an euxētai o hairetikos, hotʼ an ē thysia hautou anabę̄ tę̄ hypsēgorią, hotʼ an dokę̄ katestērichthaiʼ tote eis telos apoleitai. Ē gar euchē hautou lotexetai autǭ eis hamartian, kai estin autē hē euchē b insitos"? hamartia. Stich. zʼ. Hotan gar. dokę̄ ēdēlestērichthai, tote eis telos apoleitai. Homoion, oi de echthroi tou Kvplov hama tǭ doxasthēnai kai hypsōthēnai, ekleipontes hōsei kapnos exelipon. Stich. zʼ. oi de idontes auton erousith Pou estini Tines hoi idontes autonēs Oi ekklēsiastikoi, hoi idontes ekeinōn ta sphalmata, eroumeps Pou iactv? Stich. ēʼ. Ōsper enixeinnoo]r ekpetasthen hou mē svos ē. eureuę̄, Ol toioutoi enypniazomenoi, kai anaplassontes phantasmata, ou tę̄ alētheią tēn dianoian epereidousin sphallomenoi, kai ginontai hōsper enypnion ekpetasthen, ho ou mē heurethę̄. Stich. iʼ. Tous uious hautou olesaisan hēttones. Tous huious kai mathētas tou tauta didaxantos. Stich. iʼ. Di de cheeres hautou pyrseusaisan ynao. ynas, Di cheires autou, phēsin, toutestin ai praxeis, exapsousin autǭ kolasin. Al de cheires hautou. Tou asebous toutou kai hesphalmenou, hou hē proseuchē logizetai eis amartian, hou ē thysia ean anabę̄ eis ouranon, kai nephōn
… is supposed: that I suffer these things because of my sins. Ought you, then, to reproach me like this? [Job 19:4] "And with me lodges error." Even if, for the sake of argument, I had done such things as I ought not, even if I were such a man, ought you not, seeing the scourges, the discharges, the worms, the loss of my goods, to have shown me respect? But you trample on me further, neither pitying me nor sympathizing with my plight. [Job 19:5] Verse 5: "Ah, but because you magnify yourselves against me and leap upon me with reproach." You reproach me not moderately but leaping on me; you reproach me as if trampling and treading me down. [Job 19:6] Verse 6: "And he has raised his stronghold against me." I am, as it were, under a wall: the stronghold of my plight. I cannot flee until God decides to pull it down. [Job 19:7] Verse 7: "Behold, I laugh at reproach, and I will not speak." This is: "Overcome evil with good." … Behold, at your reproach I am thought to laugh, not to speak. [Job 20:6] Verse 6: "If his gifts go up to heaven, and his sacrifice touches the clouds." If the gifts of the ungodly go up to heaven, if he is greatly exalted, if his sacrifice touches the clouds: when the heretic prays, when his sacrifice goes up through lofty talk, when he seems to have been established, then he will perish utterly. For his prayer will be counted to him as sin, and the prayer itself is sin. [Job 20:7] Verse 7: "For when he seems already to have been established, then he will perish utterly." Similar is: "But the enemies of the Lord, as soon as they were glorified and exalted, vanished like smoke." Verse 7: "And those who saw him will say: Where is he?" Who are those who saw him? The members of the church, who saw their errors, will say: "Where is he?" [Job 20:8] Verse 8: "Like a dream that has flown away, he will not be found." Such men, dreaming and fashioning phantoms, do not fix their mind on the truth; led astray, they become like a dream that has flown away, which will not be found. [Job 20:10] Verse 10: "May inferiors destroy his sons." The sons and disciples of the one who taught these things. Verse 10: "And may his hands kindle pains." "His hands," he says, that is, his deeds, will kindle punishment for him. "And his hands": of this ungodly and erring one, whose prayer is counted as sin, whose sacrifice, if it goes up to heaven and touches the clouds
Job 19:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 19:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 19:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 19:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 12:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 20:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 109:7 (108:7 LXX) (allusion, high confidence) · Job 20:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 37:20 (36:20 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Job 20:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 20:10 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Job rebukes his friends for trampling on him, and the ungodly man of Job 20 is read as the heretic whose very prayer is sin.
- "I laugh" reads γελῶ (Job 19:7 LXX), which the scan gives as τελῶ. A garbled phrase after "Overcome evil with good" (Rom 12:21) is marked "…".
- "His prayer will be counted to him as sin": Ps 109:7 (108:7 LXX). "The enemies of the Lord … vanished like smoke": Ps 37:20 (36:20 LXX).
- The ungodly man of Job 20 is applied to the heretic and his disciples; translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR τ for γ (Job 19:7 LXX γελῶ); footnote marker leaked into the text): ὀνείδει (Η) → ὀνείδει; Ἰδοὺ τελῶ → Ἰδοὺ γελῶ; (ιε) → .
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Origen, Frag. Job 71 (PG 17:72a–72d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-fragmenta-iob/59/#p-71). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek of Migne PG 17 (library-scan text); no public-domain English exists, so it was re-read against the Greek.
Chapter 73
73PG 17:73a–73d
ἅψηται, τότε είς τέλος ἀπόλλυται ο τούτου α -..τ-,ρ ιβλημ- 7 κ ο ι ι - --χεῖρες ὀδύνας πυρσεόσουσιο τουτέστι, καὶ ὲν ὀδύναις ἐσχάταις διάξουσι. Λέγει δὲ περὶ τῶν υίῶν τοῦ πα- Ἔχει γὰρ μαθήματα, ἃ. οὐκ ἐστι γλυκέα, ἀλλά χολὴ ἀσπίδος, οἱονεὶ πονηρὰ, ὴ περὶ τοῦ οἴνου τῆς διδασκαλίας αὐτῶν. Ἐκ γὰρ ἀμπέλου Σοδόμοη· ἡ ἄμπελος αὐτῶν, καὶ τὰ ἑξῆς. Καὶ μετʼ ὀλίγα· Χολὴ δὲ ἀσπίδος ὲν γαστρὶ τοῦ ὲτεροδόξου, καὶ ἀσεβοῦντος ὲν τοῖς δόγμασι. τοῖς ἐναντίοις τῇ ἀληθείᾳ.-, Στίχ. ιεʼ. Πλοῦτοςὸήάδίκως συναγόμενος ἐξε- με σεται. Τίς γὰρ ἄλλος ἀδίκως πλοῦτος συνάγεται ἢ ἐκεῖ· νος ό ὲν τοῖς λόγοις αὺτῷνς Ἀδίκως γὰρ συνάγεται. Ἀλλʼ ό ἀγαθὸς οὐκ ὲάσει αὐτοὺς πεπτωκότας, πλοῦτον ἀδίκως συναγόμενον ἔχειν ἀεὶ αὐτὸν ὲν ἑαυτοῖς· ποιήσει γὰρ ἐξεμέσαι. Στίχ. ιεʼ. Ἐξ οἰκίας αὐτοῦ ἐξελκύσει αὐτὸν ἅγγελος. Ἀγγελος γὰρ κατʼ ἐνέργειαν καὶ εὐεργεσίαν τοῦ Θεοῦ ὲξελκύσει αὐτὸν ἀπʼ αὐτῆς τῆς κακῶς οίκοδομηθείσης, ἣτις ἐστὶν ἐκκλησία πονηρευομένων. Αὕτη γάρ ὴ οἰκία αὑτοῦ. Ἀλλʼ ἄγγελος ἐξελκύσει αὐτὸν ἐξ οἰκίας αὐτοῦ. Στίχ. ιζʼ. Μὴ ἴδοι ἄμελξιν νομάδων. Ἐτερόδοξος οὐ βλέπει ἄμελξιν νομάδων. Νομάδες δὲ εἰσί τινες ψυχαὶ νεμόμεναι ὑπὸ τῷ καλῷ Ποιμὲνι, τῷ εἰπόντιδ Ἐγώ ειμι ἡ θύρα. Διʼ ἐμοῦ ἐάν τις εἰσέλθῃ, σωθήσεται. Καὶ εἰσελεύσεται, καὶ ἐξελεύσεται, καὶ νομὴν εὑρήσει. Στῐχ. ιηʼ. ’Ὥσπερ στρίςσνος ἀμάσητος, ἀκατὰ- Ol λόγοι καὶ τά δόγματα στριφνά καὶ πυκνὰ, οὺδὲν ἔχει γλυκὺ ἐκεῖνα, τὰ κατὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ γινόμενα. Στρίφνος βοτάνη. τίς ἐστιν ἐκτραχυνομένη τῇ γλώσσῃ τοῦ μασσωμὲνου. ’Ὠσπερ οὖν, φησι, τὴν βοτάνην ἐκείνην, κᾶν ἄγαν τις φιλονεικήσειε διαλεάνας τοῖς όδοῦσιί καταπιεῖν οὐ δύναται· οὕτω καὶ ὁ τῶν ἀλλοτρίων ἀπολαύειν ἐθέλων οὐδὲν τῶν πόνων ἀποίσεται τὸ κέρδος.
hapsētai, tote eis telos apollytai o toutou a -..t-,r iblēm- 7 k o i i - --cheires odynas pyrseosousio toutesti, kai en odynais eschatais diaxousi. Legei de peri tōn uiōn tou pa- Echei gar mathēmata, ha. ouk esti glykea, alla cholē aspidos, hoionei ponēra, ē peri tou oinou tēs didaskalias autōn. Ek gar ampelou Sodomoē; hē ampelos autōn, kai ta hexēs. Kai metʼ oliga; Cholē de aspidos en gastri tou eterodoxou, kai asebountos en tois dogmasi. tois enantiois tę̄ alētheią.-, Stich. ieʼ. Ploutosoēadikōs synagomenos exe- me setai. Tis gar allos adikōs ploutos synagetai ē ekei; nos o en tois logois autǭns Adikōs gar synagetai. Allʼ o agathos ouk easei autous peptōkotas, plouton adikōs synagomenon echein aei auton en heautois; poiēsei gar exemesai. Stich. ieʼ. Ex oikias autou exelkysei auton hangelos. Angelos gar katʼ energeian kai euergesian tou Theou exelkysei auton apʼ autēs tēs kakōs oikodomētheisēs, hētis estin ekklēsia ponēreuomenōn. Hautē gar ē oikia hautou. Allʼ angelos exelkysei auton ex oikias autou. Stich. izʼ. Mē idoi amelxin nomadōn. Eterodoxos ou blepei amelxin nomadōn. Nomades de eisi tines psychai nemomenai hypo tǭ kalǭ Poimeni, tǭ eipontid Egō eimi hē thyra. Diʼ emou ean tis eiselthę̄, sōthēsetai. Kai eiseleusetai, kai exeleusetai, kai nomēn heurēsei. Stich. iēʼ. ’Hōsper strissnos amasētos, akata- Ol logoi kai ta dogmata striphna kai pykna, ouden echei glyky ekeina, ta kata tou Theou ginomena. Striphnos botanē. tis estin ektrachynomenē tę̄ glōssę̄ tou massōmenou. ’Ōsper oun, phēsi, tēn botanēn ekeinēn, kan agan tis philoneikēseie dialeanas tois odousii katapiein ou dynatai; houtō kai ho tōn allotriōn apolauein ethelōn ouden tōn ponōn apoisetai to kerdos.
… touches, then he perishes utterly. … his hands will kindle pains; that is, they will pass their lives in the utmost pains. He speaks of the sons of the … For he holds teachings that are not sweet but the gall of an asp, that is, wicked; or else it concerns the wine of their teaching, for "their vine is of the vine of Sodom," and so on. And a little after: The gall of an asp is in the belly of the one who holds other doctrines and is impious in teachings contrary to the truth. [Job 20:15] Verse 15: "Wealth unjustly gathered will be vomited up." For what other wealth is gathered unjustly than that which lies in their words? It is gathered unjustly. But the Good One will not allow them, fallen as they are, to keep wealth unjustly gathered within themselves for ever; he will make them vomit it up. Verse 15: "An angel will drag him out of his house." For an angel, by God's working and kindness, will drag him out of that badly built house, which is the church of evildoers; for this is his house. But an angel will drag him out of his house. [Job 20:17] Verse 17: "May he not see the milking of the herds." The one who holds other doctrines does not see the milking of the herds. The herds are certain souls pastured under the good Shepherd, who said: "I am the door; if anyone enters through me, he will be saved, and will go in and go out and find pasture." [Job 20:18] Verse 18: "Like a tough herb, unchewable, unswallowable." Their words and doctrines, tough and dense, have nothing sweet in them, those spoken against God. The strychnos is a herb that roughens the tongue of the one who chews it. Just as no one can swallow that herb, he says, however hard he strives to grind it with his teeth, so the one who wishes to enjoy what belongs to others will carry away no profit from his labours.
Job 20:10 (allusion, high confidence) · Job 20:14 (allusion, high confidence) · Deut 32:32 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 20:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 26:5 (25:5 LXX) (allusion, medium confidence) · Job 20:17 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:9 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:11 (allusion, medium confidence) · Job 20:18 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The ungodly man of Job 20 is the teacher of false doctrine, whose gathered wealth he must vomit up and who never sees the true flock fed.
- The opening lines are garbled in the scan and marked "…".
- "The gall of an asp": Job 20:14. "Their vine is of the vine of Sodom": Deut 32:32. "I am the door …": John 10:9.
- The "church of evildoers" (Ps 26:5, 25:5 LXX) and the "one who holds other doctrines" refer to heretics; translated as written.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Origen, Frag. Job 73 (PG 17:73a–73d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-fragmenta-iob/59/#p-73). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 75
75PG 17:76a
Στίχ. κ6’. Νίψαι ἐπʼ αὐτόν ὀδύνας. Ἀντὶ νιφετοῦ ὀδύναι ἔρχονται ἐπὶ τὸν τοιοῦτον. · Στίχ. κδʼ. Kal οὺ μὴ σωθῇ ἐκ χειρὸς σιδήρου. Σίδηρον οὐ λέγει τοῦτον τὸν αίσυητὸν, ἀλλὰ τμητικὼτατον λόγον. , Στίχ. κεʼ. Διςξέλθοι δὲ διὰ σώματος αὐτοῦ βέλος. Τὰ βέλη ταῦτα τὰ πεπυρωμένα τιτρώσκει αὐτόν. Στίχ. κεʼ. Κατέδεται αὐτόν πῦρ ἄκαυστον. Μυστήριόν τι μανθάνομεν περὶ τῆς κολάσεως τῆς ἀποκειμένης, ἵνα φυλασσώμεθα αὐτὴν παθεῖν. Πῦρ ,εἶπεν ἄκαυστον κατέδεσθαι τὸν ἀσεὸῆο τοῦτο τὺ πῦρ τὸ παρʼ ἡμῖν ὑλικὸν οὐκ ἔστιν ἄκαυστον πῦρ· βλεπὸ- ’μενον ’γὰρ αὑτό. Ἐκεῖνο δὲ ἀόρατόν ἐστι τὸ πῦρ, τὸ ἐπὶ τοὺς ἁμαρτωλοὺς ἐρχόμενον, ὂ ἔνδον αὐτοὺς καίει. Νοητόν ἐστι καὶ κολάζον. Ἐὰν Θέλῃς εἰκόνα παρα·λαβεῖν ἐκείνου τοῦ πυρὸς, νόει μοι τὸν είς ὑπερβολὴν πυρέσσοντα, καὶ ὑπὸ πυρὸς φλεγόμενον. Οΰχ εὑρήσεις ὄψει τὸ πῦρ ἐν αὐτῷ, ὑπόκειται δὲ, καὶ ἐκκαίει αὐτοῦ τὰ σπλάγχνα. Οὕτως ἀπὸ τῶν ἁμαρτημάτων πυρέττων τις ὲκκαίεται. Στίχ. κεʼ. Κακὼσαι δὲ αὑτοῦ ἐπήλυτος τὸν οἷκον. '0 πολεμήσας τὸν λαὸν ἐκεῖνον ἐπήλυτος ἦν, καὶ οὐ προσήλυτος ο ὃς ἐκάκωσεν αὑτοῦ τὸν οἷκον, καταλύων τὸ νομιζόμενον ἁγίασμα, καὶ τὴν πόλιν ἣν ἕλεγον εἶναι ἁγίαν. Στίχ. κζʼ. Ἆνακαλύψαι δὲ αὐτοῦ ό οὐρανὸς τὰς ἀνομίας. Ἀντὶ τοῦ, Καὶ ἐκ Θεοῦ καὶ ἐξ οὐρανοῦ ὑποστήσεται τὰ δεινά. Ταῦτα δὲ ἔφη, ἐπειδὴ ό Ἰὼβ, φήσας ὕπὸ Θεοῦ πεπλῆχθαι, ἐμνημόνευε καὶ ὼς ὑπὸ ἀνθρώπων ἠδικημένος. Κατασκευάζει οὖν, ὅτι πάντα διʼ ἁμαρτίας αὐτὸν ἐπηνέχθη. Στίχ. κζʼ. Γῆ δὲ ἐπανασταίη αὐτῷ. Αὐτὴ ἡ γῆ ἐπανίσταται ἐκείνῳ τῷ λαῷ. Στίχ. κθ. Kal,κτῆμα ὑπαρχόντων αὐτῷ παρὰ τοῦ ἐπισκόπου. Μανθάνει τίς ἐπίσκοπος ἐνθάδε ζώνομάσθης ὅτι Θεὸς ἐπίσκοπος εἴρηται, καὶ οἱ ἐπίσκοποι ἐκείνου τὴν εἰκόνα πανίεῖ τῷ τρόπῳ φιλοτιμοῦνται, οἱ καλοὶ καὶ ἁγαθοὶ, φορεῖν. Kal. ὥσπερ ό μιμησάμνος εἰκόνα βασιλικὴν τιμᾶται ἐπὶ τὸ καλῶς μιμήσασθαι, τιμᾶται δέ καὶ ἐπὶ τῷ αὐτὴν κεκοσμηκέναι ο οὕτως μακάριος ἐπίσκοπος, ό νοήσας τὸν ἀληθινὸν ἐπίσκοπον, καὶ ζηλῶν αὑτὸν, καὶ γινόμενος ὡς ἐν ἀνθρώποις θεός· ἢ ἔχων ἐπίσκοπον τόν ποιοῦντα αὑτὸν άληθῶς ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ ἐπίσκοπον· ᾧὴ δόξα καὶ τὸ κράτος είς τοὺς αἰῶνας τιῖιν αἰώνων. Ἀμήν. ΚΕΦ. KA'. Στίχ. εʼ. Εὶσβλέψαντες εὶς ἐμὲ θαῦμα σχέτε. _ Φατέ σοφοὶ εἶναι, καὶ εἰδέναι διὰ τί ταῦτα πάσχω, ὡς τοῦ Θεοῦ μὴ κοιμωμένου ἐπὶ τοῖς ἁμαρτήμασι τῶν ἀνθρώπων. Καὶ ἐτολμήσατέ με λέγειν ἁμαρτωλὸν εἶναι, καὶ δικαίως εἰς ταῦτα ἐφθακέναι. Στίχ. ςʼ. Πεπαλαίωνται δὲ καὶ ὲν πλούτῳ. Οὐκ εἰσὶ νεόπλουτοι, ἀλλὰ πολλὰ ἐτη πεποιὴο
Stich. k6’. Nipsai epʼ auton odynas. Anti niphetou odynai erchontai epi ton toiouton. ; Stich. kdʼ. Kal ou mē sōthę̄ ek cheiros sidērou. Sidēron ou legei touton ton aisyēton, alla tmētikōtaton logon. , Stich. keʼ. Disxelthoi de dia sōmatos autou belos. Ta belē tauta ta pepyrōmena titrōskei auton. Stich. keʼ. Katedetai auton pyr akauston. Mystērion ti manthanomen peri tēs kolaseōs tēs apokeimenēs, hina phylassōmetha autēn pathein. Pyr ,eipen akauston katedesthai ton aseoēo touto ty pyr to parʼ hēmin hylikon ouk estin akauston pyr; blepo- ’menon ’gar hauto. Ekeino de aoraton esti to pyr, to epi tous hamartōlous erchomenon, o endon autous kaiei. Noēton esti kai kolazon. Ean Thelę̄s eikona para;labein ekeinou tou pyros, noei moi ton eis hyperbolēn pyressonta, kai hypo pyros phlegomenon. Oÿch heurēseis opsei to pyr en autǭ, hypokeitai de, kai ekkaiei autou ta splanchna. Houtōs apo tōn hamartēmatōn pyrettōn tis ekkaietai. Stich. keʼ. Kakōsai de hautou epēlytos ton hoikon. '0 polemēsas ton laon ekeinon epēlytos ēn, kai ou prosēlytos o hos ekakōsen hautou ton hoikon, katalyōn to nomizomenon hagiasma, kai tēn polin hēn helegon einai hagian. Stich. kzʼ. Anakalypsai de autou o ouranos tas anomias. Anti tou, Kai ek Theou kai ex ouranou hypostēsetai ta deina. Tauta de ephē, epeidē o Iōb, phēsas hypo Theou peplēchthai, emnēmoneue kai ōs hypo anthrōpōn ēdikēmenos. Kataskeuazei oun, hoti panta diʼ hamartias auton epēnechthē. Stich. kzʼ. Gē de epanastaiē autǭ. Autē hē gē epanistatai ekeinǭ tǭ laǭ. Stich. kth. Kal,ktēma hyparchontōn autǭ para tou episkopou. Manthanei tis episkopos enthade zōnomasthēs hoti Theos episkopos eirētai, kai hoi episkopoi ekeinou tēn eikona paniei tǭ tropǭ philotimountai, hoi kaloi kai hagathoi, phorein. Kal. hōsper o mimēsamnos eikona basilikēn timatai epi to kalōs mimēsasthai, timatai de kai epi tǭ autēn kekosmēkenai o houtōs makarios episkopos, o noēsas ton alēthinon episkopon, kai zēlōn hauton, kai ginomenos hōs en anthrōpois theos; ē echōn episkopon ton poiounta hauton alēthōs en Christǭ Iēsou episkopon; hǭē doxa kai to kratos eis tous aiōnas tiiin aiōnōn. Amēn. KEPh. KA'. Stich. eʼ. Eisblepsantes eis eme thauma schete. _ Phate sophoi einai, kai eidenai dia ti tauta paschō, hōs tou Theou mē koimōmenou epi tois hamartēmasi tōn anthrōpōn. Kai etolmēsate me legein hamartōlon einai, kai dikaiōs eis tauta ephthakenai. Stich. sʼ. Pepalaiōntai de kai en ploutǭ. Ouk eisi neoploutoi, alla polla etē pepoiēo
[Job 20:22] Verse 22: "May he snow pains upon him." Instead of snow, pains come upon such a man. [Job 20:24] Verse 24: "And may he not be saved from the hand of iron." By iron he does not mean this iron that we perceive by the senses, but a most cutting word. [Job 20:25] Verse 25: "And may an arrow pass through his body." These fiery arrows wound him. [Job 20:26] Verse 26: "A fire that is not kindled will devour him." We learn a mystery about the punishment that is laid up, so that we may guard against suffering it. He said that a fire not kindled devours the ungodly. This material fire among us is not an unkindled fire, for it is seen. But that fire which comes upon sinners is invisible and burns them within. It is a fire perceived by the mind, and it punishes. If you wish to take an image of that fire, think of someone with an extreme fever, burning as with fire. You will not find the fire in him by sight; yet it lies beneath and burns up his inner parts. So one who is feverish from his sins is burned up. Verse 26: "And may a stranger ruin his house." The one who made war on that people was a stranger, not a proselyte; he ruined their house, destroying what was considered the sanctuary and the city they called holy. [Job 20:27] Verse 27: "And may the heaven reveal his iniquities." That is: he will suffer terrible things both from God and from heaven. He said this because Job, after saying that he had been struck by God, also mentioned that he had been wronged by men. He argues, then, that everything came on him because of sin. Verse 27: "And may the earth rise up against him." The earth itself rises up against that people. [Job 20:29] Verse 29: "And the possession of his goods from the Overseer." Learn who is named Overseer here: God is called Overseer (episkopos), and the bishops, the good and noble ones, strive in every way to bear his image. And just as one who has copied a royal image is honoured for copying it well, and honoured too for having adorned it, so blessed is the bishop who has understood the true Overseer, and is zealous for him, and becomes like a god among men; or who has as his overseer the One who makes him truly a bishop in Christ Jesus, to whom be glory and might for ever and ever. Amen. [Job 21:5] Chapter 21, verse 5: "Look at me and be astonished." You claim to be wise and to know why I suffer these things, as if God were not asleep with regard to people's sins; and you dared to say that I am a sinner and have justly come to this. [Job 21:7] Verse 7: "And they have grown old in wealth." They are not newly rich, but have been
Job 20:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 20:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 20:25 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 6:16 (allusion, low confidence) · Job 20:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 20:27 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 20:29 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 21:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 21:7 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The unkindled fire of Job 20 is an invisible inward punishment like fever, and the Overseer of Job 20:29 is God, whose image good bishops strive to bear.
- The stranger who ruined "that people's" house is read as the conqueror of Jerusalem who destroyed its temple; the passage applies the ungodly man of Job 20 to the Jewish people. Translated as written.
- Job 20:29 in the Septuagint ends "from the Overseer" (ἐπισκόπου); the comment plays on the word, which also means "bishop". "Learn" follows Migne's suggested reading Μάνθανε (the scan has Μανθάνει); his footnote, leaked into the text, has been removed.
- The catena numbers Job 21:7 as verse 6.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's footnote leaked into the text): 62) Forte Μανδάνε ις. → .
Topics: Eschatology, Church office
Cite (SBL): Origen, Frag. Job 75 (PG 17:76a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-fragmenta-iob/59/#p-75). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek of Migne PG 17 (library-scan text); no public-domain English exists, so it was re-read against the Greek.
Chapter 77
77PG 17:77a–77d
κασι πλουτοῦντες, καί ἀεὶ τὸν πλοῦτον αὔξοντες Στίχ. ηʼ. Ὁ σπόρος αὐτῶν ’κατὰ ψυχήν. ’Τοῦ μὲν δικαίου ὁ σπόροςʼκατὰ πνεῦμά ἑστι· Σπείρει γάρ εἰς τὸ πνεῦμα, καί ἐκ τοῦ πνεύματος θερίζει ζωὴν αἰώνιον-ο τῶν δὲ τοιούτων, ἐπεὶ ψυχικὸς ἅνθρωπος οὐ δέχεται τὰ τοῦ πνεύματος · μωρία γὰρ αὐτῷ ἐστιν · ὁ σπόροςού κατὰ πνεῦμα, ἀλλὰ ’κατὰ ψυχὴν, τὺ ὑποδεέστερον. Στίχ. ηʼ. Τὰ δὲ τέκνα αὐτῶν ἑν ὀφθαλμοῖς. Πάντα ὅσα ποιοῦσιν, πρὸς τὸ θεαθῆναι ὑπὸ τῶν ἀνθρώπων ποιοῦσι. Τέκνα γὰρ τὰ ἔργα ἑκάστου. Οὐκ ἔστι τέκνα τῶν ἑτεροδόξων ὲν καρδίᾳ, ἑν λογισμοῖς ἀγαθοῖς, ἀλλʼ ἑν ὀφθαλμοῖς, πρὸς τὸ θεαθῆναι ὑπὸ τῶν ἀνθρώπων. Στίχ. θʼ. οι οἶκοι αὐτῶν εʼὺθηνοῦσιν. Ὅτʼ ἂν εἰσέλθῃς εἰς συναγωγὴν αἰρετικῶν, καὶ ἴδῃς ἐκεῖ πλῆθος συναγομένων, βλέπε, ὅτι ol οἶκοι αὐτῶν εὐθηνοῦσιν. “ Στίχ. θʼ. Φόβος δὲ οὐδαμοῦ. Ἀφοβοί εἰσιν. Οὐ φοβοῦνται τὸν Θεὸν, καταφρονοῦσι τῆς Θεότητος · τοιαῦτα λέγοντες περὶ Θεοῦ, οῦ φοβοῦνται, ὅτι περὶ Θεοῦ λαλοῦσιν. ’Στίχ. θʼ. Μάστιξ δὲ παρὰαΚυρίου οὐκ ἐστιν ἐπʼ T06 αὐτοῦ. Ἐὰν ἴδῃς ἄνθρωπον τοιαῦτα κατὰ Θεοῦ λαλοῦντα, ὑγιαίνοντα τῷ σώματι, βλέποντα,τὰ · αἰσθητήρια σώζοντα, καὶ δοκοῦντα ἑνίοτε καὶ ἑν τοῖς κοσμικοῖς εὐτυχεῖν· ὅρα, ὅτι πεπλήρωται ἐπʼ αὑτοῦ ἀσεβοῦς ὄντος τό· Μάστιξ δὲ παρὰ Κυρίου οὐκ ἔστιν ἐπʼ αὐτοῖς. Στίχ. ιʼ. Ἡ,βοῦς αὐτῶν οὐκ ὠμοτόκησε. Τοῦ αὑτοῦ. ὐ βοῦς ζῶόν ἑστι γεωργικὸν, καὶ συμπνέων εἰς γεωργίαν. Καὶ αὐτοί γεωργοῦσι. Γεωργοῦσι δὲ Σόδομα καὶ Γόμορρα, γεωργοῦσιν Αἴγυπτον. Ἡβοῦς αὐτῶν οὐκ ὠμοτόκησεν· ἀλλὰ καὶ αὐτὴ ἀπεκύησε, καὶ ἐγέννησε τέκνον, ἵνα γεωργῆται αὐτῶν ἡ πονηρὰ γῆ. Στίχ. ιʼ. Διεσώθη δὲ αὐτῶν ἐν γαστρί ἔχουσα, καὶ Ὅσα συλλαμβάνουσι, ταῦτα καὶ κύουσιν, οὐκ ἀπὸ τοῦ φόβου Θεοῦ συλλαμβάνοντες, ἀλλʼ ἀπὸ τῆς κακίας. Ἰδοὺ ὠδίνησεν ἀδικίαν, συνέλαβε πόνον, καὶ ἔτεκεν ἀνομίαν. Στίχ. ιαʼ. Μένουσι δὲ ὥσπερ πρόβατα αἰώνια. Ποῖος νοῦς ἑστι τοῦ · μενοῦσιν-ὠς πρόβατα αἰώνια; Περὶ ὦν φησιν ὁ Χριστόςι Τὰ ἐμὰ πρόβατα τῆς ἐμῆς φωνῆς ἀκούουσι, καὶ ἐγὼ ζωὴν αἰώνιον δίδωμι αὐτοῖς, καὶ τά ἑξῆς · ταῦτά ἑστι τὰ αἰώνια πρόβατα. Ἐπεὶ οῦν μῖμοί εἰσιν οἱ ἑτερόδοξοι, καὶ . ἐθέλουσι μιμεῖσθαι τὴν ποίμνην τοῦ Χριστοῦ, ἐπισκόπους ἑαυτοῖς χειροτονοῦντες, πρεσβυτέρους, διακόνους, διδασκάλους, λαὸν, κατηχουμένους, μιμοῦμενοι τὰ αἰώνια πρόβατα, πληροῦσι τό Μένουσι δὲ ὡς πρόβατα αἰώνια. Οὐκ εἰσὶ δὲ πρόβατα αἰώνια, ἀλλὰ μένουσιν ὡς πρόβατα αἰώνια.
kasi ploutountes, kai aei ton plouton auxontes Stich. ēʼ. Ho sporos autōn ’kata psychēn. ’Tou men dikaiou ho sporosʼkata pneuma hesti; Speirei gar eis to pneuma, kai ek tou pneumatos therizei zōēn aiōnion-o tōn de toioutōn, epei psychikos hanthrōpos ou dechetai ta tou pneumatos ; mōria gar autǭ estin ; ho sporosou kata pneuma, alla ’kata psychēn, ty hypodeesteron. Stich. ēʼ. Ta de tekna autōn hen ophthalmois. Panta hosa poiousin, pros to theathēnai hypo tōn anthrōpōn poiousi. Tekna gar ta erga hekastou. Ouk esti tekna tōn heterodoxōn en kardią, hen logismois agathois, allʼ hen ophthalmois, pros to theathēnai hypo tōn anthrōpōn. Stich. thʼ. oi oikoi autōn eʼythēnousin. Hotʼ an eiselthę̄s eis synagōgēn airetikōn, kai idę̄s ekei plēthos synagomenōn, blepe, hoti ol oikoi autōn euthēnousin. “ Stich. thʼ. Phobos de oudamou. Aphoboi eisin. Ou phobountai ton Theon, kataphronousi tēs Theotētos ; toiauta legontes peri Theou, ou phobountai, hoti peri Theou lalousin. ’Stich. thʼ. Mastix de paraaKyriou ouk estin epʼ T06 autou. Ean idę̄s anthrōpon toiauta kata Theou lalounta, hygiainonta tǭ sōmati, bleponta,ta ; aisthētēria sōzonta, kai dokounta heniote kai hen tois kosmikois eutychein; hora, hoti peplērōtai epʼ hautou asebous ontos to; Mastix de para Kyriou ouk estin epʼ autois. Stich. iʼ. Hē,bous autōn ouk ōmotokēse. Tou hautou. y bous zōon hesti geōrgikon, kai sympneōn eis geōrgian. Kai autoi geōrgousi. Geōrgousi de Sodoma kai Gomorra, geōrgousin Aigypton. Hēbous autōn ouk ōmotokēsen; alla kai autē apekyēse, kai egennēse teknon, hina geōrgētai autōn hē ponēra gē. Stich. iʼ. Diesōthē de autōn en gastri echousa, kai Hosa syllambanousi, tauta kai kyousin, ouk apo tou phobou Theou syllambanontes, allʼ apo tēs kakias. Idou ōdinēsen adikian, synelabe ponon, kai eteken anomian. Stich. iaʼ. Menousi de hōsper probata aiōnia. Poios nous hesti tou ; menousin-ōs probata aiōnia? Peri ōn phēsin ho Christosi Ta ema probata tēs emēs phōnēs akouousi, kai egō zōēn aiōnion didōmi autois, kai ta hexēs ; tauta hesti ta aiōnia probata. Epei oun mimoi eisin hoi heterodoxoi, kai . ethelousi mimeisthai tēn poimnēn tou Christou, episkopous heautois cheirotonountes, presbyterous, diakonous, didaskalous, laon, katēchoumenous, mimoumenoi ta aiōnia probata, plērousi to Menousi de hōs probata aiōnia. Ouk eisi de probata aiōnia, alla menousin hōs probata aiōnia.
rich for many years and always increasing their wealth. [Job 21:8] Verse 8: "Their seed is according to the soul." The seed of the righteous is according to the Spirit, for he "sows to the Spirit, and from the Spirit reaps eternal life"; but the seed of such men, since "the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit, for they are folly to him," is not according to the Spirit but according to the soul, the inferior part. Verse 8: "And their children are before their eyes." Everything they do, they do to be seen by men; for each person's works are his children. The children of those who hold other doctrines are not in the heart, in good thoughts, but in the eyes, to be seen by men. [Job 21:9] Verse 9: "Their houses prosper." When you enter a synagogue of heretics and see the crowd gathered there, see that "their houses prosper." Verse 9: "And there is no fear anywhere." They are fearless. They do not fear God; they despise the Godhead. Saying such things about God, they are not afraid that it is about God they are speaking. Verse 9: "And there is no scourge from the Lord upon them." If you see a man saying such things against God, healthy in body, with his sight and senses intact, and sometimes seeming to prosper even in worldly affairs, see that in him, ungodly as he is, this is fulfilled: "And there is no scourge from the Lord upon them." [Job 21:10] Verse 10: "Their cow has not miscarried." (Of the same.) The ox is a farming animal and works the land along with the farmer. And they too farm; but they farm Sodom and Gomorrah, they farm Egypt. "Their cow has not miscarried": it too gave birth and bore offspring, so that their wicked land may be farmed. Verse 10: "And their pregnant one was kept safe, and …" What they conceive they also carry in the womb, conceiving not from the fear of God but from wickedness. "Behold, he travailed with injustice, conceived toil, and brought forth lawlessness." [Job 21:11] Verse 11: "And they remain like everlasting sheep." What is the sense of "they remain like everlasting sheep"? Those of whom Christ says, "My sheep hear my voice, and I give them eternal life," and so on: these are the everlasting sheep. Since, then, those who hold other doctrines are imitators and wish to imitate the flock of Christ, appointing for themselves bishops, presbyters, deacons, teachers, laity and catechumens, imitating the everlasting sheep, they fulfil the words "And they remain like everlasting sheep." They are not everlasting sheep, but they remain like everlasting sheep.
Job 21:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 21:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 6:8 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 6:1 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 23:5 (allusion, medium confidence) · Job 21:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 21:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 7:14 (7:15 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Job 21:11 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:27 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:28 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The prosperity of the wicked in Job 21 is read as the flourishing of heretical congregations, which only imitate the flock of Christ.
- "Sows to the Spirit …": Gal 6:8. "The natural man …": 1 Cor 2:14. "To be seen by men": Matt 6:1; 23:5. "Behold, he travailed …": Ps 7:14 (7:15 LXX). "My sheep hear my voice …": John 10:27–28.
- "(Of the same.)" renders the catena's attribution marker, which assigns the following comment to the same author as the preceding one.
- The comments on heretics and their congregations are translated as written.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Origen, Frag. Job 77 (PG 17:77a–77d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-fragmenta-iob/59/#p-77). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 79
79PG 17:80a–80d
Στίχ. ιαʼ. Τὰ δὲ παιδία αὐτῶν προσπαίζουσι. Στίχ. ιβʼ. Ἀνωασὸντες ψαλτήριον καὶ κιθάραν. Ol ἡμέτεροι ἀναλαμβάνουσι ψαλτήριον καὶ κιθάραν, ὑμνοῦντες τὸν Θεὸν, καὶ δοξολογούντες αὐτόν. Ἐκείνων δὲ τὰ παιδία, οἰ ἀνόητοι ὲν αὐτοῖς, προσπαίζουσιν, ἁναιαμόἁνοντες ψωιτιὶρισν καί κιθάραν. ’θʼθʼ ἂν ἀναλάβωσι τοὺς λόγους τῆς “alata; Διαθήκης, προσπαίζουσι, καὶ γελῶσι τά λόγια τοῦ νόμου καὶ τῶν προφητῶν. Ἀναλαμεάνοντες τά ἔναρμόνια, ψαλτήριον τὺ τοῦ νόμου, κιθάραν τὴν προφητικὴν, προσπαίζουσιν αὐτοῖς. Στίχ. ιδʼ. Kal εὐφραίνονται φωνῇ ψαλμοῦ. Καὶ αὐτοὶ λέγωσιν ψαλμοὺς ούαλεντίνου, καὶ λέρ γουσιν ᾠδὰς Βασιλείδου, καὶ τοιαῦτά τινα φθέγγονται, εὐφραινόμενοι φωνῇ ψαλμοῦ. Στίχ. Ἐν δὲ (irriget-130m ᾅδου ἐκοιμήθησαν. Ἐν δὲ ἀναπαύσει οὐκ ούρανοῦ, ἀλλʼ ᾅδου ἐκοιμήθησαν. Ἡμεῖς δὲ εὐχόμεθα οὐκ ὲν ἀναπαύσει ᾅδου κοιμηθῆναι, ἀλλʼ ὲν ἀναπαύσει Θεοῦ έν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς τοῖς ἁγίοις μετά Χριστοῦ βασιλεύοντος ἡμῶν· ᾧ ἡ δόξα καὶ τὸ κράτος εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων. Ἀμήν. ’ ΚΕΟ. KB'. Στίχ. βʼ. Πότερον οὐχί Κύριός ἐστιν ὁ διεδ- ’ σκων σύνεσιν καὶ ἐπιστήμην; Τά οἰκονομούμενα ὑπὸ τοῦ ἀγίου Πνεύματος ἀναο γραφῆς ἀξιωθῆναι χρὴ. Διά τοῦτο ἀναγράφεται ῠπὶρ τοῦ τὸν ἐντυγχάνοντα ὠφελεῖσθαι ὲκ τῶν avath σκομένων. Εἰ μὴ οὗν χρήσιμοι ἦσαν οἰ λόγοι τῶν τριιῖιν, τῶν παραγενομένων πρὸς τὸν Ἰὼβ, ὡς τὸν ἐντυγχάνοντα λαόείν τι ἀπὸ τῶν εἰρημένων ὑπʼ αὐτῶν πρὸς τὸν Ἱὼὅ· οὐκ ἂν ἡ πρόνοια εἰς τὴν βίβλον τοῦ Ἰὼό ἐποίησεν ἀναγραφῆναι καὶ τοὺς λόγους τῶν τριῶν. Ἔστιν οὖν ὠφεληθῆναι μὲν ἀπὸ τῶν λόγων αὐτοῦ, ἐνορῶντα τοῖς δόγμασιν · όρᾷν δὲ τὸ ἐγκλητον τῶν λόγων περὶ ιν μόνον, ὅτε αἰτιιῖινται τὸν Ἰὼβ, οἰόμενοι αὐτὸν πάσχειν διά τά ἡμαρτημένα αὐτῷʼ οὐχ ὁρῶντες, ὅτι καὶ ἀλλα πολλά alata ἐστι τοῦ συμβαίνειν ἀνθρώποις. Τοιαῦτά έστι νενομισμένα εἶναι καλά ἢ χαλεπὰ, ἢ ὅπως ποτὲ βούλεταί τις αὐτὰ ὀνομάζειν. Kal μετʼ Mirer Πότερον οὐχί d Κύριός ἐστιν ό διδάσκων σύνεσιν καί emoriatur; Τὸ δόγμα ὑγιές ἐστιʼ ὅτι ἀληθινὸς διδάσκαλος ἀρετῆς οὐ δύναται εἶναι ἄνθρωπος. Ὀ διδάσκων γὰρ ἄνθρωπον γνῶσιν, καὶ ὲν τοῖς Ψαλμοῖς ἀναγέγραπται, ὅτι οὐκ ἀλλος εστὶν ἢ Θεός. Καὶ, Δίὸσξόν με, φησὶν,τὰ δικαιώματά σου, ό Προφήτης, εἰδὼς διδάσκαλον εἶναι ἀληθῆ καὶ τέλειον τὸν Θεόν. Διδά· σκει δὲ ό Θεὸς ἐλλάμπων τῇ ψυχῇ τοῦ μανθάνοντος ὑπʼ αὐτοῦ, καὶ τὴν διάνοιαν φωτίζων τῷ φωτὶν τῷ ἀληθινῷ λόγῳ αὐτοῦ. Οὐκοῦν καὶ ἀνδρες δίκαιοι ἡμᾶς διδάσκουσι διδασκαλικὴν εἰληφότες χάριν. Στίχ. δʼ. Kal συνεισελεύσεται σοι εἰς κρίσιν. Λόγον ποιούμενος ό Θεὸς τοῦ προνοουμένου ὑπʼ αὺτοῦ, ἐλέγχει αὐτόν. Kal συνεισελεύσεται σοι εις κρίσιν. Πολλάκις εἴπομεν, εἴποτε ἐνέπεσε τὸ δόγμα
Stich. iaʼ. Ta de paidia autōn prospaizousi. Stich. ibʼ. Anōasontes psaltērion kai kitharan. Ol hēmeteroi analambanousi psaltērion kai kitharan, hymnountes ton Theon, kai doxologountes auton. Ekeinōn de ta paidia, oi anoētoi en autois, prospaizousin, hanaiamoanontes psōitiirisn kai kitharan. ’thʼthʼ an analabōsi tous logous tēs “alata? Diathēkēs, prospaizousi, kai gelōsi ta logia tou nomou kai tōn prophētōn. Analameanontes ta enarmonia, psaltērion ty tou nomou, kitharan tēn prophētikēn, prospaizousin autois. Stich. idʼ. Kal euphrainontai phōnę̄ psalmou. Kai autoi legōsin psalmous oualentinou, kai ler gousin ǭdas Basileidou, kai toiauta tina phthengontai, euphrainomenoi phōnę̄ psalmou. Stich. En de (irriget-130m hądou ekoimēthēsan. En de anapausei ouk ouranou, allʼ hądou ekoimēthēsan. Hēmeis de euchometha ouk en anapausei hądou koimēthēnai, allʼ en anapausei Theou en tois ouranois tois hagiois meta Christou basileuontos hēmōn; hǭ hē doxa kai to kratos eis tous aiōnas tōn aiōnōn. Amēn. ’ KEO. KB'. Stich. bʼ. Poteron ouchi Kyrios estin ho died- ’ skōn synesin kai epistēmēn? Ta oikonomoumena hypo tou agiou Pneumatos anao graphēs axiōthēnai chrē. Dia touto anagraphetai ypir tou ton entynchanonta ōpheleisthai ek tōn avath skomenōn. Ei mē houn chrēsimoi ēsan oi logoi tōn triiiin, tōn paragenomenōn pros ton Iōb, hōs ton entynchanonta laoein ti apo tōn eirēmenōn hypʼ autōn pros ton Hiōo; ouk an hē pronoia eis tēn biblon tou Iōo epoiēsen anagraphēnai kai tous logous tōn triōn. Estin oun ōphelēthēnai men apo tōn logōn autou, enorōnta tois dogmasin ; orąn de to enklēton tōn logōn peri in monon, hote aitiiiintai ton Iōb, oiomenoi auton paschein dia ta hēmartēmena autǭʼ ouch horōntes, hoti kai alla polla alata esti tou symbainein anthrōpois. Toiauta esti nenomismena einai kala ē chalepa, ē hopōs pote bouletai tis auta onomazein. Kal metʼ Mirer Poteron ouchi d Kyrios estin o didaskōn synesin kai emoriatur? To dogma hygies estiʼ hoti alēthinos didaskalos aretēs ou dynatai einai anthrōpos. O didaskōn gar anthrōpon gnōsin, kai en tois Psalmois anagegraptai, hoti ouk allos estin ē Theos. Kai, Diosxon me, phēsin,ta dikaiōmata sou, o Prophētēs, eidōs didaskalon einai alēthē kai teleion ton Theon. Dida; skei de o Theos ellampōn tę̄ psychę̄ tou manthanontos hypʼ autou, kai tēn dianoian phōtizōn tǭ phōtin tǭ alēthinǭ logǭ autou. Oukoun kai andres dikaioi hēmas didaskousi didaskalikēn eilēphotes charin. Stich. dʼ. Kal syneiseleusetai soi eis krisin. Logon poioumenos o Theos tou pronooumenou hypʼ autou, elenchei auton. Kal syneiseleusetai soi eis krisin. Pollakis eipomen, eipote enepese to dogma
[Job 21:11] Verse 11: "And their children play." [Job 21:12] Verse 12: "Taking up harp and lyre." Our people take up harp and lyre, hymning God and glorifying him. But their children, the senseless among them, play as they take up harp and lyre. Whenever they take up the words of the Old Covenant, they make sport and laugh at the oracles of the law and the prophets. Taking up the harmonious instruments, the harp of the law and the prophetic lyre, they make sport of them. Verse 12: "And they rejoice at the sound of a psalm." They too recite psalms of Valentinus and sing odes of Basilides, and utter other such things, rejoicing at the sound of a psalm. [Job 21:13] Verse 13: "And in the rest of Hades they fell asleep." They fell asleep in a rest not of heaven but of Hades. But we pray to fall asleep, not in the rest of Hades, but in the rest of God in the holy heavens with Christ our King, to whom be glory and might for ever and ever. Amen. [Job 22:2] Chapter 22, verse 2: "Is it not the Lord who teaches understanding and knowledge?" What the Holy Spirit arranges must be thought worthy of being written down; it is written down so that the reader may benefit from what is read. If, then, the words of the three who came to Job had not been useful, so that the reader could take something from what they said to Job, providence would not have caused the words of the three to be written in the book of Job as well. One may, then, benefit from their words by looking into their teachings; but one should see that their words are blameworthy on one point only, when they accuse Job, thinking that he suffers for his sins, and not seeing that there are many other causes of what happens to people, of things that are considered good or hard, or whatever one wishes to call them. And a little after: "Is it not the Lord who teaches understanding and knowledge?" The teaching is sound: a man cannot be the true teacher of virtue. For it is written in the Psalms that the one "who teaches man knowledge" is no other than God. And "Teach me your statutes," says the prophet, knowing that God is the true and perfect teacher. God teaches by shining on the soul of the one who learns from him and enlightening his mind with the light, his true Word. So righteous men too teach us, having received the grace of teaching. [Job 22:4] Verse 4: "And he will enter into judgment with you." God, taking account of the one he cares for, reproves him. "And he will enter into judgment with you." We have often said, whenever this teaching came up
Job 21:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 21:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 21:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 22:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 94:10 (93:10 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 119:12 (118:12 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Job 22:4 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Heretics mock the law and the prophets and sing their own teachers' psalms, while the speeches of Job's friends were recorded because they are useful except where they accuse Job.
- "Of the Old Covenant" reads παλαιᾶς, garbled in the scan; later "causes" reads αἴτια (also garbled).
- Valentinus and Basilides: second-century Gnostic teachers whose psalms and odes are mentioned elsewhere in early Christian writers. Translated as written.
- "Who teaches man knowledge": Ps 94:10 (93:10 LXX). "Teach me your statutes": Ps 119:12 (118:12 LXX) and elsewhere in that psalm.
Topics: Heresy, Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Origen, Frag. Job 79 (PG 17:80a–80d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-fragmenta-iob/59/#p-79). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek of Migne PG 17 (library-scan text); no public-domain English exists, so it was re-read against the Greek.