Oration to the Greeks 32
Summary: Christian teaching is free and open to rich and poor, old women and youths alike; the Greeks, who admire old Nestor and warrior women, mock Christian elders and virgins.
Greek text · Otto 6:126–128
Παρʼ ἡμῖν δὲ τῆς μὲν κενοδοξίας ὁ ἵμερος οὐκ ἔστι, δογμάτων δὲ ποικιλίαις οὐ καταχρώμεθα. Λόγου γὰρ τοῦ δημοσίου καὶ ἐπιγείου κεχωρισμένοι, καὶ πειθόμενοι θεοῦ παραγγέλμασι καὶ νόμῳ πατρὸς ἀφθαρσίας ἑπόμενοι, πᾶν τὸ ἐν δόξῃ κείμενον ἀνθρωπίνῃ παραιτούμεθα. Φιλοσοφοῦσί τε οὐ μόνον οἱ πλουτοῦντες, ἀλλὰ καὶ οἱ πένητες προῖκα τῆς διδασκαλίας ἀπολαύουσι· τὰ γὰρ παρὰ θεοῦ τῆς ἐν κόσμῳ δωρεᾶς ὑπερπαίει τὴν ἀμοιβήν. Τοὺς δὲ ἀκροᾶσθαι βουλομένους πάντας οὕτως προσιέμεθα, κἂν πρεσβύτιδες ὦσι κἂν μειράκια, πᾶσά τε ἁπαξαπλῶς ἡλικία παρʼ ἡμῖν τυγχάνει τιμῆς· τὰ δὲ τῆς ἀσελγείας πόῤῥω κεχώρισται. Καὶ ἡμεῖς μὲν λέγοντες οὐ ψευδόμεθα. Τὰ δὲ τῆς ὑμετέρας περὶ τὴν ἀπιστίαν ἐπιμονῆς καλὸν μὲν εἰ λαμβάνοι περιγραφήν· εἰ δʼ οὐ, τὰ ἡμέτερα ἔστω θεοῦ γνώμῃ βεβαιούμενα. Γελᾶτε δὲ ὑμεῖς, ὡς καὶ κλαύσοντες. Πῶς γὰρ οὐκ ἄτοπον Νέστορα μὲν καθʼ ὑμᾶς, τῶν ἵππων τὰς παρηορίας βραδέως ἀποτέμνοντα διὰ τὸ ἄτονον καὶ νωθὲς τῆς ἡλικίας, θαυμάζεσθαι πειρώμενον ἐπʼ ἴσης τοῖς νέοις πολεμεῖν, τοὺς δὲ παρʼ ἡμῖν τῷ γήρᾳ παλαίοντας καὶ τὰ περὶ θεοῦ πραγματευομένους γελᾶσθαι; Τίς δὲ οὐκ ἂν γελάσειεν Ἀμαζόνας μὲν καὶ Σεμίραμιν καί τινας ἄλλας πολεμικὰς φασκόντων ὑμῶν γεγονέναι, τὰς δὲ παρʼ ἡμῖν παρθένους λοιδορούντων; Μειράκιον ἦν ὁ Ἀχιλλεύς, καὶ γενναῖος εἶναι πεπίστευται σφόδρα· καὶ ὁ Νεοπτόλεμος νεώτερος, ἀλλὰ ἱσχυρὸς ἦν· Φιλοκτήτης ἀσθενής, ἀλλʼ ἔχρῃζεν αὐτοῦ κατὰ Τροίας τὸ δαιμόνιον. Ὁ Θερσίτης ὁποῖος ἦν; Ἀλλʼ ἐστρατήγει· τὸ δʼ ἀμετροεπὲς εἰ μὴ προσῆν αὐτῷ διὰ τὴν ἀμαθίαν, οὐκ ἂν ὡς φοξὸς καὶ ψεδνὸς διεβάλλετο. Πάντες οἱ βουλόμενοι φιλοσοφεῖν παρʼ ἡμῖν ἄνθρωποι οὐ τὸ ὁρώμενον δοκιμάζομεν, οὐδὲ τοὺς προσιόντας ἡμῖν ἀπὸ σχήματος κρίνομεν· τὸ γὰρ τῆς γνώμης ἐῤῥωμένον παρὰ πᾶσιν εἶναι δύνασθαι λελογίσμεθα, κἂν ἀσθενεῖς ὦσι τοῖς σώμασι. Τὰ δὲ ὑμέτερα φθόνου μεστὰ καὶ βλακείας πολλῆς.
English · Claude translation
Among us there is no longing for vainglory, and we do not deal in a variety of opinions. For having separated ourselves from common and earthly reasoning, obeying the commands of God and following the law of the Father of incorruption, we reject everything that rests on human opinion. Not only the rich among us pursue philosophy; the poor too enjoy our teaching free of charge, for what comes from God surpasses any recompense in worldly gifts. So we admit all who wish to listen, even if they are old women or youths; in short, every age is honored among us, while all licentiousness is kept far away. And when we speak we do not lie. As for your persistence in unbelief, it would be well if it came to an end; but if not, let our teachings stand confirmed by the judgment of God. You laugh, but you will weep. For how is it not absurd that you admire Nestor, who was slow to cut the traces of his horses because of the weakness and sluggishness of his age, for trying to fight on equal terms with the young, while those among us who wrestle with old age and busy themselves with the things of God are laughed at? And who would not laugh when you say that there were Amazons, and Semiramis, and certain other warlike women, while you revile our virgins? Achilles was a youth, and he is believed to have been very noble; Neoptolemus was younger still, but strong; Philoctetes was sick, but the divine power needed him against Troy. What sort of man was Thersites? Yet he was a commander; and if his unbridled tongue had not come from his ignorance, he would not have been mocked as pointy-headed and bald. All of us who wish to pursue philosophy do not judge by appearances, nor do we judge those who come to us by their looks; for we reckon that strength of mind can be found in all, even if they are weak in body. But your ways are full of envy and great stupidity.
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Translation notes
- “You laugh, but you will weep” echoes Luke 6:25.
- Nestor cutting his horse's traces: Iliad 8.87–88. Thersites described as pointy-headed and bald: Iliad 2.219. Homer makes Thersites a common soldier; “he was a commander” is Tatian's word (ἐστρατήγει).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (wrong accent: εἷναι for εἶναι): γενναῖος εἷναι → γενναῖος εἶναι.
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Tatian, Or. Graec. 32 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tatian-oration/32/).
Plain text
Tatian, Or. Graec. 32 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tatian-oration/32/).
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