On the Flesh of Christ 1–8

Latin text: Oehler 2 (Latin text: Franz Oehler (Oehler 2, 1854), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library (canonical-latinLit), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 3 (1885).

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Chapter 1

1Oehler 2:425–426

Qui fidem resurrectionis ante istos Sadducaeorum propinquos sine controversia moratam ita student inquietare, ut eam spem negent etiam ad carnem pertinere, merito Christi quoque carnem quaestionibus distrahunt, tamquam aut nullam omnino aut quoquo modo aliam praeter humanam, ne, si humanam constiterit fuisse, praeiudicatum sit adversus illos eam resurgere omni modo, quae in Christo resurrexerit. Igitur unde illi destruunt carnis vota, inde nobis erunt praestruenda. Examinemus corporalem substantiam domini; de spiritali enim certum est. Caro quaeritur. Veritas et qualitas eius retractatur: an fuerit, et unde, et cuiusmodi fuerit. Renuntiatio eius dabit legem nostrae resurrectioni. Marcion, ut carnem Christi negaret, negavit etiam nativitatem, aut ut nativitatem negaret, negavit et carnem, scilicet ne invicem sibi testimonium responderent nativitas et caro, quia nec nativitas sine carne nec caro sine nativitate; quasi non eadem licentia haeretica et ipse potuisset aut admissa carne nativitatem negare, ut Apelles discipulus et postea desertor ipsius, aut et carnem et nativitatem confessus aliter illas interpretari, ut condiscipulus et condesertor eius Valentinus. Sed et qui carnem Christi putativam introduxit, aeque potuit nativitatem quoque phantasma confingere, ut et conceptus et praegnatus et partus virginis et ipsius exinde infantis ordo τῷ δοκεῖν haberentur. Eosdem oculos eosdemque sensus fefellissent quos carnis opinio elusit.

Those who so eagerly disturb the faith in the resurrection (which, until these near relatives of the Sadducees came, rested without dispute) that they deny that this hope extends even to the flesh, consistently tear apart Christ's flesh too with questions, as though it either did not exist at all or was in some way other than human; lest, if it were established that it was human, this should stand as a prejudgement against them that the flesh which rose in Christ will certainly rise. So we must build our defences from the very point from which they demolish the hopes of the flesh. Let us examine the bodily substance of the Lord; for about the spiritual there is no doubt. It is the flesh that is in question. Its reality and its quality are under review: whether it existed, and from where, and of what kind it was. The verdict on it will lay down the law for our own resurrection. Marcion, in order to deny Christ's flesh, denied his birth too; or, in order to deny his birth, denied his flesh as well, so that birth and flesh might not bear witness to each other, since there is no birth without flesh and no flesh without birth. As though with the same heretical licence he could not have either admitted the flesh and denied the birth, like Apelles, his disciple and later his deserter, or confessed both flesh and birth and interpreted them otherwise, like his fellow disciple and fellow deserter Valentinus. But he who introduced a putative flesh of Christ could equally have made up a phantom birth too, so that the virgin's conception and pregnancy and delivery, and then the whole course of the infant's life, would be held to be mere appearance. The same eyes and the same senses would have been deceived which the belief in his flesh eluded.

Matt 22:23 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Those who deny the resurrection of the flesh also deny that Christ had real human flesh; Marcion denied both his flesh and his birth, and Tertullian sets out to examine them.

  • The Greek phrase τῷ δοκεῖν (“by seeming”) gives the view later called Docetism. The Sadducees denied the resurrection (Matt 22:23).

Topics: Christology, Heresy, Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Tertullian, Carn. Chr. 1 (Oehler 2:425–426; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-carne/1/#p-1).

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Chapter 2

2Oehler 2:426–428

Plane nativitas a Gabriele adnuntiatur. Quid illi cum angelo creatoris? Et in virginis uterum conceptus inducitur. Quid illi cum Esaia propheta creatoris? Odit moras, qui subito Christum de caelo deferebat. Aufer hinc, inquit, molestos semper Caesaris census et diversoria angusta. et sordidos pannos et dura praesepia. Viderit angelica multitudo dominum suum noctibus honorans. Servent potius pecora pastores; et magi ne fatigentur de longinquo; dono illis aurum suum. Melior sit et Herodes, ne Hieremias glorietur. Sed nec circumcidatur infans, ne doleat, nec ad templum deferatur, ne parentes suos oneret sumptu oblationis, nec in manus tradatur Simeoni, ne senex moriturus exinde contristetur. Taceat et anus illa, ne fascinet puerum. His, opinor, consiliis tot originalia instrumenta Christi delere, Marcion, ausus es, ne caro eius probaretur. Ex quo, oro te? Exhibe auctoritatem. Si propheta es, praenuntia aliquid: si apostolus, praedica publice: si apostolicus, cum apostolis senti: si tantum Christianus es, crede quod traditum est: si nihil istorum es, merito dixerim, morere. Nam et mortuus es, qui non es Christianus, non credendo quod creditum Christianos facit, et eo magis mortuus es quo magis non es Christianus, qui cum fuisses, excidisti, rescindendo quod retro credidisti, sicut et ipse confiteris in quadam epistula et tui non negant et nostri probant. Igitur rescindens quod credidisti iam non credens rescidisti, non tamen quia credere desisti, recto rescidisti, atquin rescindendo quod credidisti probas ante quam rescinderes aliter fuisse. Quod credidisti aliter, illud ita erat traditum. Porro quod traditum erat, id erat verum, ut ab eis traditum quorum fuit tradere. Ergo quod erat traditum rescindens quod erat verum rescidisti. Nullo iure fecisti. Sed plenius eiusmodi praescriptionibus adversus omnes haereses alibi iam usi sumus. Post quas nunc ex abundanti retractamus, desiderantes rationem qua non putaveris natum esse Christum.

The birth, plainly, is announced by Gabriel. What has he to do with the Creator's angel? And a conception in a virgin's womb is brought in. What has he to do with Isaiah, the Creator's prophet? He hates delays, the man who was bringing Christ down from heaven all of a sudden. “Away with them,” he says, “those ever-troublesome censuses of Caesar, the cramped inns, the dirty rags, the hard manger. Let the angelic host look to itself, honouring its Lord by night. Let the shepherds rather keep their flocks; and let the magi not tire themselves coming from afar: I give them back their gold. Let Herod too be kinder, so that Jeremiah may not boast. And let the infant not be circumcised, lest he feel pain, nor be carried to the temple, lest he burden his parents with the cost of the offering, nor be handed into Simeon's arms, lest the old man be saddened because he is then to die. Let that old woman too keep quiet, lest she cast the evil eye on the boy.” By such counsels, I suppose, you have dared, Marcion, to erase so many original records of Christ, so that his flesh might not be proved. On what authority, I beg you? Show your authority. If you are a prophet, foretell something; if an apostle, preach publicly; if apostolic, think with the apostles; if merely a Christian, believe what has been handed down; if you are none of these, I would rightly say: die. For you are dead already, since you are not a Christian, not believing what, when believed, makes Christians; and you are the more dead, the more you are not a Christian, since having been one you fell away, rescinding what you formerly believed, as you yourself confess in a certain letter, and your followers do not deny, and ours prove. So in rescinding what you believed, you rescinded it as one no longer believing; yet you did not rescind it rightly because you stopped believing; on the contrary, by rescinding what you believed you prove that before you rescinded it things stood otherwise. What you believed otherwise was what had been handed down. And what had been handed down was true, as handed down by those whose right it was to hand it down. So in rescinding what had been handed down you rescinded what was true. You did it without any right. But we have already used such prescriptions more fully against all heresies elsewhere. After them we now review the matter out of abundance, asking for the reason why you did not think Christ was born.

Luke 1:26–31 (allusion, high confidence) · Isa 7:14 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 2:1–20 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 2:1–18 (allusion, high confidence) · Jer 31:15 (allusion, medium confidence) · Luke 2:21–38 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Marcion cut the whole nativity story out of the Gospel to deny Christ's flesh; having abandoned the faith handed down, he has no authority to do so.

  • Tertullian lists the infancy narrative: Luke 1:26–31 and Isa 7:14; Luke 2:1–20; Matt 2:1–18 (with Jer 31:15); Luke 2:21–38. Marcion's letter renouncing his former faith is lost. The prescriptions “against all heresies” refer to Tertullian's Prescription against Heretics.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (letter dropped)): si spostolicus → si apostolicus; de loginquo → de longinquo; id erat veru, ut → id erat verum, ut; resciodens → rescindens.

Extrabiblical texts: Tertullian, Praescr. (Prescription against Heretics; allusion)

Topics: Christology, Heresy, Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Tertullian, Carn. Chr. 2 (Oehler 2:426–428; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-carne/1/#p-2).

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Chapter 3

3Oehler 2:428–430

Necesse est, quatenus hoc putas arbitrio tuo licuisse, ut aut impossibilem aut inconvenientem deo existimaveris nativitatem. Sed deo nihil impossibile nisi quod non vult. An ergo voluerit nasci (quia si voluit, et potuit et natus est) consideremus. Ad compendium decurro. Si enim nasci se deus noluisset, quacunque de causa. nec hominem se videri praestitisset. Nam quis hominem videns eum negaret natum? Ita quod noluisset esse, nec videri omnino voluisset. Omnis rei displicentis etiam opinio reprobatur, quia nihil interest utrum sit quid an non sit, si cum non sit esse praesumitur. Plane interest ut falsum non patiatur quod vere non est. Sed satis erat illi, inquis, conscientia sua. Viderint homines si natum putabant, quia hominem videbant. Quanto ergo dignius quantoque constantius humanam sustinuisset existimationem vere natus, eandem existimationem etiam non natus subiturus cum iniuria conscientiae suae quam tu ad fiduciam reputas, ut non natus adversus conscientiam suam natum se existimari sustineret? Quid tanti fuit edoce, quod sciens Christus quid esset id se quod non erat exhiberet? Non potes dicere, Ne si natus fuisset et hominem induisset, deus esse desisset, amittens quod erat, dum fit quod non erat. Periculum enim status sui deo nullum est. Sed ideo, inquis, nego deum in hominem vere conversum, ita ut et nasceretur et carne corporaretur, quia qui sine fine est etiam inconvertibilis sit necesse est. Converti enim in aliud finis est pristini. Non competit ergo conversio cui non competit finis. Plane natura convertibilium ea lege est, ne permaneant in eo quod convertitur in eis, et ita non permanendo pereant, dum perdunt convertendo quod fuerunt. Sed nihil deo par est; natura eius ab omnium rerum condicione distat Si ergo quae a deo distant, a quibus deus distat, cum convertuntur amittunt quod fuerunt, ubi erit diversitas divinitatis a ceteris rebus, nisi ut contrarium obtineat, id est ut deus et in omnia converti possit et qualis est perseverare? Alioquin par erit eorum quae conversa amittunt quod fuerunt, quorum utique in omnibus par non est, sic nec in exitu conversionis. Angelos creatoris conversos in effigiem humanam aliquando legisti, et credidisti, et tantam corporis gestasse veritatem, ut et pedes eis laverit Abraham, et manibus ipsorum ereptus sit Sodomitis Loth, conluctatus quoque homini angelus toto corporis pondere dimitti desideraverit, adeo detinebatur. Quod enim angelis inferioribus dei licuit conversis in corpulentiam humanam, ut angeli nihilominus permanerent, hoc tu potentiori deo auferes, quasi non valuerit Christus vere hominem indutus deus perseverare? Aut numquid et angeli illi phantasmata carnis apparuerunt? Sed non audebis hoc dicere. Nam si sic apud te angeli creatoris sicut et Christus, eius dei erit Christus cuius angeli tales qualis et Christus. Si scripturas opinioni tuae resistentes non de industria alias reiecisses, alias corrupisses, confudisset te in hac specie evangelium Ioannis, praedicans spiritum columbae corpore lapsum desedisse super dominum. Qui spiritus cum hoc esset, tam vere erat et columba quam et spiritus, nec interfecerat substantiam propriam assumpta substantia extranea. Sed quaeris corpus columbae ubi sit resumpto spiritu in caelum, aeque et angelorum. Eadem ratione interceptum est qua et editum fuerat. Si vidisses cum de nihilo proferebatur, scisses et cum in nihilum subducebatur. Si non fuit initium visibile, nec finis. Tamen corporis soliditas erat, quoquo momento corpus videbatur. Non potest non fuisse quod scriptum est.

Since you think this was left to your own judgement, you must have regarded birth either as impossible for God or as unbecoming to him. But to God nothing is impossible except what he does not will. Let us consider, then, whether he willed to be born (for if he willed it, he both could be and was born). I take a short cut. If God had not willed to be born, for whatever reason, he would not have presented himself as seeming a man either. For who, seeing him a man, would deny that he was born? So what he would not have willed to be, he would not have willed to seem at all. Of everything displeasing, even the appearance is rejected, since it makes no difference whether a thing is or is not, if, when it is not, it is presumed to be. What does matter is that one should not suffer a false ascription of what is not truly so. “But his own consciousness was enough for him,” you say; “it was people's affair if they thought him born because they saw a man.” How much more worthily, then, and how much more consistently would he have borne human opinion if truly born, when, not being born, he was going to incur the same opinion to the injury of that consciousness which you count as his confidence, so that, not born, he would bear being thought born against his own consciousness! Explain what was so important that Christ, knowing what he was, should display himself as what he was not. You cannot say, “Lest, had he been born and put on man, he should have ceased to be God, losing what he was while becoming what he was not.” For God runs no risk to his state. “But,” you say, “I deny that God was truly changed into man, so as both to be born and to be embodied in flesh, because he who is without end must also be unchangeable. For to be changed into something else is the end of the former state. So change does not befit one to whom an end does not befit.” Plainly, the nature of changeable things is bound by this law, that they do not remain in what is changed in them, and so perish by not remaining, losing by change what they were. But nothing is equal to God; his nature stands apart from the condition of all things. If, then, the things that differ from God, and from which God differs, lose what they were when they are changed, where will the difference of divinity from other things lie, unless it holds the contrary, namely that God can both be changed into all things and continue as he is? Otherwise he will be on a par with the things that lose what they were when changed; but he is certainly not on a par with them in all things, and so not in the outcome of change either. You have read, and believed, that the Creator's angels were at times changed into human form and bore such reality of body that Abraham even washed their feet, and Lot was snatched from the Sodomites by their hands; and an angel, wrestling with a man with the whole weight of his body, asked to be let go, so firmly was he held. What was permitted to God's inferior angels, changed into human bodiliness, that they nevertheless remained angels, will you take away from the more powerful God, as though Christ, having truly put on man, could not continue to be God? Or did those angels too appear as phantoms of flesh? But you will not dare to say this. For if in your view the Creator's angels are as Christ is, Christ will belong to that God whose angels are such as Christ is. If you had not deliberately rejected some Scriptures that resist your opinion and corrupted others, the Gospel of John would have confounded you on this point, proclaiming that the Spirit came down in the body of a dove and settled on the Lord. Since the Spirit was this, it was as truly a dove as it was Spirit, and it had not destroyed its own substance by assuming a foreign one. But you ask where the dove's body is, now that the Spirit has been taken back into heaven, and likewise the angels' bodies. It was withdrawn in the same way as it had been produced. If you had seen it when it was brought forth from nothing, you would have known also when it was withdrawn into nothing. If its beginning was not visible, neither was its end. Yet there was solid body, at whatever moment the body was seen. What is written cannot not have been.

Luke 1:37 (allusion, medium confidence) · Gen 18:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 19:10 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 19:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 32:24–26 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:32 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Birth was neither impossible nor dangerous for God: he can become man and remain God, as angels took real bodies and the Spirit a real dove's body without ceasing to be what they were.

  • The allusions are Luke 1:37; Gen 18:4; Gen 19:10, 16; Gen 32:24–26; and John 1:32.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (b read as h)): Aliequin → Alioquin; qussi non → quasi non; visihile → visibile.

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Tertullian, Carn. Chr. 3 (Oehler 2:428–430; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-carne/1/#p-3).

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Chapter 4

4Oehler 2:430–433

Igitur si neque ut impossibilem neque ut periculosam deo repudias corporationem, superest ut quasi indignam reicias et accuses. Ab ipsa quidem exorsus nativitate, perora, age, iam spurcitias genitalium in utero elementorum, humoris et sanguinis foeda coagula, carnis ex eodem coeno alendae per novem menses. Describe uterum de die insolescentem, gravem, anxium, nec somno tutum, incertum libidinibus fastidii et gulae. Invehere iam et in ipsum mulieris enitentis pudorem, vel pro periculo honorandum, vel pro natura religiosum. Horres utique et infantem cum suis impedimentis profusum, utique et ablutum dedignaris, quod pannis dirigitur, quod unctionibus formatur, quod blanditiis deridetur. Hanc venerationem naturae, Marcion, despuis, et quomodo natus es? odisti nascentem hominem, et quomodo diligis aliquem? Te quidem plane non amasti, cum ab ecclesia et fide Christi recessisti. Sed videris, si tibi displices, aut si aliter es natus. Certe Christus dilexit hominem illum in immunditiis in utero coagulatum, illum per pudenda prolatum, illum per ludibria nutritum. Propter eum descendit, propter eum praedicavit, propter eum omni se humilitate deiecit usque ad mortem, et mortem crucis; amavit utique quem magno redemit. Si Christus creatoris est, suum merito amavit; si ab alio deo est, magis adamavit, quando alienum redemit. Amavit ergo cum homine etiam nativitatem, etiam carnem eius. Nihil amari potest sine eo per quod est id quod est. Aut aufer nativitatem, et exhibe hominem, aut adime carnem, et praesta quem deus redemit, si haec sunt homo, quem deus redemit. Tu haec erubescenda illi facis, quem redemit, et indigna, quae nisi dilexisset non redemisset? Nativitatem reformat a morte regeneratione caelesti, carnem ab omni vexatione restituit, leprosam emaculat, caecam reluminat, paralyticam redintegrat, daemoniacam expiat, mortuam resuscitat, et nos illam erubescemus? Si revera de lupa aut sue aut vacca prodire voluisset et ferae aut pecoris corpore indutus regnum caelorum praedicaret, tua, opinor, illi censura praescriberet, Turpe hoc deo, et indignum hoc dei filio, et stultum. Propterea quia ita credat; si plane stultum si de nostro sensu iudicemus deum. Sed circumspice, Marcion, si tamen non delesti: Stulta mundi elegit deus, ut confundat sapientia. Quaenam haec stulta sunt? Conversio hominum ad culturam veri dei, reiectio erroris, disciplina iustitiae, pudicitiae, misericordiae, patientiae, innocentiae omnis? Haec quidem stulta non sunt. Quaere ergo de quibus dixerit; et si praesumpseris invenisse, num erit tam stultum quam credere in deum natum, et quidem ex virgine, et quidem carneum, qui per illas naturae contumelias volutatus sit? Dicat haec aliquis stulta non esse, et alia sint quae deus in aemulationem elegerit sapientiae saecularis. Et tamen apud illam facilius creditur Iuppiter taurus factus aut cygnus quam vere homo Christus penes Marcionem.

If, then, you reject embodiment neither as impossible nor as dangerous for God, it remains that you reject and accuse it as unworthy. Beginning from birth itself, come, declaim now against the filth of the generative elements in the womb, the foul clots of fluid and blood, the flesh to be nourished from that same mire for nine months. Describe the womb growing more swollen day by day, heavy, troubled, not safe even in sleep, unsettled by cravings of loathing and appetite. Inveigh now against the very modesty of a woman in labour, which ought rather to be honoured for its danger and held sacred for its nature. You shudder, no doubt, at the infant poured out with its encumbrances; no doubt you disdain it even when washed, because it is straightened with swaddling bands, shaped with ointments, made fun of with coaxing. This reverend work of nature, Marcion, you spit upon; and how were you born? You hate a human being at its birth; how then do you love anyone? Yourself, plainly, you did not love, when you withdrew from the church and the faith of Christ. But that is your affair, whether you displease yourself or were born some other way. Christ, certainly, loved that man, curdled in the womb amid uncleanness, brought forth through the private parts, nourished amid things to laugh at. For him he came down, for him he preached, for him he humbled himself in all lowliness, even to death, and the death of the cross. He loved, surely, the one he redeemed at great price. If Christ is the Creator's, he rightly loved his own; if he is from another god, he loved the more, since he redeemed one not his own. So along with man he loved his birth too, and his flesh too. Nothing can be loved apart from that through which it is what it is. Either take away birth and show me man, or remove the flesh and present the one whom God redeemed, if these are what make up the man whom God redeemed. Do you make these things shameful and unworthy for the one he redeemed, when he would not have redeemed them unless he had loved them? He remakes birth out of death by heavenly regeneration; he restores flesh from every affliction: he cleanses it when leprous, gives it light again when blind, makes it whole when paralysed, purges it when possessed by demons, raises it when dead; and are we to be ashamed of it? If he had indeed chosen to come forth from a she-wolf or a sow or a cow, and to preach the kingdom of heaven clothed in the body of a wild beast or of cattle, your censure, I suppose, would have laid down for him: “This is shameful for God, and unworthy of the Son of God, and foolish,” just because one would have to believe it so. Foolish indeed, if we judge God by our own sense. But look around, Marcion, if you have not deleted it: “God has chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise.” What are these foolish things? The conversion of men to the worship of the true God, the rejection of error, the discipline of righteousness, chastity, mercy, patience, and all innocence? These are not foolish at all. Seek, then, what he meant; and if you think you have found it, will anything be as foolish as to believe in a God who was born, and born of a virgin, and of flesh, who rolled through those indignities of nature? Let someone say that these things are not foolish, and that there are other things which God chose to rival the wisdom of the world. And yet in that wisdom it is more easily believed that Jupiter became a bull or a swan than, in Marcion's school, that Christ truly became man.

Phil 2:8 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 6:20 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 1:27 (quotation, high confidence) · John 3:5 (echo, low confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Marcion scorns human birth as disgusting, but Christ loved and redeemed man, birth and flesh included; the “foolishness” God chose is precisely a God born of a virgin in the flesh.

  • The allusions are Phil 2:8; 1 Cor 6:20; and 1 Cor 1:27 (quoted, Old Latin).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (b read as h)): lihidinibus → libidinibus; ai ab alio → si ab alio.

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Tertullian, Carn. Chr. 4 (Oehler 2:430–433; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-carne/1/#p-4).

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Chapter 5

5Oehler 2:433–435

Sunt plane et alia tam stulta, quae pertinent ad contumelias et passiones dei. Aut prudentiam dicant deum crucifixum. Aufer hoc quoque, Marcion, immo hoc potius. Quid enim indignius deo, quid magis erubescendum, nasci an mori? carnem gestare an crucem? circumcidi an suffigi? educari an sepeliri? in praesepe deponi an in monumento recondi? Sapientior eris si nec ista credideris. Sed non eris sapiens, nisi stultus in saeculo fueris, dei stulta credendo. An ideo passiones a Christo non recidisti, quia ut phantasma vacabat a sensu carum? Diximus retro aeque illum et nativitatis et infantiae imaginariae vacua ludibria subire potuisse. Sed iam hic responde, interfector veritatis, nonne vere crucifixus est deus? nonne vere mortuus est, ut vere crucifixus? nonne vere resuscitatus, ut vere scilicet mortuus? Falso se statuit inter nos scire Paulus tantum Iesum crucifixum, falso sepultum ingessit, falso resuscitatum inculcavit. Falsa est igitur et fides nostra, et phantasma erit totum quod speramus a Christo. Scelestissime hominum, qui interemptores excusas dei. Nihil enim ab eis passus est Christus, si nihil vere est passus. Parce unicae spei totius orbis, qui destruis necessarium dedecus fidei. Quodcunque deo indignum est, mihi expedit. Salvus sum si non confundar de domino meo. Qui mei, inquit, confusus fuerit, confundar et ego eius. Alias non invenio materias confusionis quae me per contemptum ruboris probent bene impudentem et feliciter stultum. Crucifixus est dei filius; non pudet, quia pudendum est. Et mortuus est dei filius; prorsus credibile est, quia ineptum est. Et sepultus resurrexit; certum est, quia impossibile est. Nam quomodo vera in illo erunt, si ipse non fuit verus, si non vere habuit in se quod figeretur, quod moreretur, quod sepeliretur et resuscitaretur? carnem scilicet hanc sanguine suffusam, ossibus structam, nervis intextam, venis implexam, quae nasci et mori novit, humanam sine dubio, ut natam de homine. Ideoque mortalis haec erit in Christo, quia Christus homo et filius hominis. Aut cur homo Christus et hominis filius, si nihil hominis et nihil ex homine? nisi si aut aliud est homo quam caro, aut aliunde caro hominis quam ex homine, aut aliud est Maria quam homo, aut homo deus Marcionis. Aliter non diceretur homo Christus sine carne, nec hominis filius sine aliquo parente homine, sicut nec deus sine spiritu dei, nec dei filius sine deo patre. Ita utriusque substantiae census hominem et deum exhibuit, hinc natum, inde non natum,hinc carneum, inde spiritalem, hinc infirmum, inde praefortem, hinc morientem, inde viventem. Quae proprietas conditionum, divinae et humanae, aequa utique naturae cuiusque veritate dispuncta est, eadem fide et spiritus et carnis. Virtutes spiritus dei deum, passiones carnem hominis probaverunt. Si virtutes non sine spiritu, perinde et passiones non sine carne. Si caro cum passionibus ficta, et spiritus ergo cum virtutibus falsus. Quid dimidias mendacio Christum? Totus veritas fuit. Maluit, crede, nasci quam ex aliqua parte mentiri, et quidem in semetipsum, ut carnem gestaret sine ossibus duram, sine musculis solidam, sine sanguine cruentam, sine tunica vestitam, sine fame esurientem, sine dentibus edentem, sine lingua loquentem, ut phantasma auribus fuerit sermo eius per imaginem vocis. Fuit itaque phantasma etiam post resurrectionem, cum manus et pedes suos discipulis inspiciendos offert, Aspicite, dicens quod ego sum quia spiritus ossa non habet, sicut me habentem videtis; sine dubio manus et pedes et ossa, quae spiritus non habet, sed caro. Quomodo hanc vocem interpretaris, Marcion, qui a deo optimo et simplici et bono tantum infers Iesum? Ecce fallit et decipit et circumvenit omnium oculos, omnium sensus, omnium accessus et contactus. Ergo iam Christum non de caelo deferre debueras, sed de aliquo circulatorio coetu, nec deum praeter hominem, sed magum hominem, nec salutis pontificem, sed spectaculi artificem, nec mortuorum resuscitatorem, sed vivorum avocatorem Nisi quod et si magus fuit natus est.

There are plainly other things just as foolish, which concern the indignities and sufferings of God. Or let them call a crucified God prudence. Take this away too, Marcion; indeed, this above all. For what is more unworthy of God, what more shameful: to be born or to die? to bear flesh or a cross? to be circumcised or crucified? to be brought up or buried? to be laid in a manger or put away in a tomb? You will be wiser if you do not believe these either. But you will not be wise unless you have become a fool in the world by believing the foolish things of God. Or did you leave the sufferings in Christ because, as a phantom, he was free from feeling them? We said above that he could equally have undergone the empty mockeries of an imaginary birth and infancy. But answer here and now, murderer of the truth: was God not truly crucified? did he not truly die, as he was truly crucified? was he not truly raised, as he had truly died? Falsely, then, did Paul resolve to know among us only Jesus crucified; falsely did he impress on us that he was buried; falsely did he drive home that he was raised. False, then, is our faith too, and everything we hope for from Christ will be a phantom. Most wicked of men, who excuse the murderers of God! For Christ suffered nothing from them, if he suffered nothing truly. Spare the one hope of the whole world; why do you destroy the necessary shame of the faith? Whatever is unworthy of God is to my advantage. I am saved if I am not ashamed of my Lord. “Whoever is ashamed of me,” he says, “of him will I too be ashamed.” I find no other grounds for shame which, through contempt of blushing, might prove me nobly shameless and happily foolish. The Son of God was crucified: I am not ashamed, because it is shameful. And the Son of God died: it is wholly credible, because it is absurd. And, buried, he rose again: it is certain, because it is impossible. For how will these things be true in him, if he himself was not true, if he did not truly have in himself what could be fixed to the cross, what could die, what could be buried and raised: this flesh, namely, suffused with blood, built on bones, woven with sinews, interlaced with veins, which knew how to be born and to die, human without doubt, as born of a human being? And therefore it will be mortal in Christ, because Christ is man and Son of Man. Or why is Christ man and Son of Man, if he has nothing of man and nothing from man? Unless either man is something other than flesh, or man's flesh comes from somewhere other than man, or Mary is something other than a human being, or Marcion's god is a man. Otherwise Christ would not be called man without flesh, nor Son of Man without some human parent, just as he would not be called God without the Spirit of God, nor Son of God without God as Father. So the reckoning of both substances displayed him as man and God: on one side born, on the other not born; on one side of flesh, on the other spiritual; on one side weak, on the other exceedingly strong; on one side dying, on the other living. This distinctness of the two conditions, divine and human, is marked out with equal reality of each nature, with the same good faith of both Spirit and flesh. The mighty works of the Spirit proved him God; the sufferings proved the flesh of man. If the mighty works were not without the Spirit, likewise the sufferings were not without the flesh. If the flesh with its sufferings was feigned, then the Spirit with its mighty works was false too. Why do you halve Christ with a lie? He was wholly truth. He preferred, believe me, to be born rather than to lie in any part, and that against himself: to bear flesh hard without bones, solid without muscles, bloody without blood, clothed without a tunic, hungry without hunger, eating without teeth, speaking without a tongue, so that his speech would have been a phantom to the ears, an image of a voice. He was a phantom, then, even after the resurrection, when he offers his hands and feet to the disciples to examine, saying, “See that it is I, for a spirit does not have bones, as you see that I have”: hands and feet and bones, without doubt, which a spirit does not have, but flesh does. How do you interpret this saying, Marcion, you who derive Jesus from a god who is only supremely good, simple, and kind? See, he misleads and deceives and cheats the eyes of all, the senses of all, the approach and touch of all. So you ought not to have brought Christ down from heaven, but from some troupe of conjurors; not God as well as man, but a man who is a magician; not the high priest of salvation, but a stager of shows; not the raiser of the dead, but the beguiler of the living. Except that, even if he was a magician, he was born.

1 Cor 1:18–25 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 3:18 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:2 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:3–4 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:14 (allusion, high confidence) · Mark 8:38 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 9:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:39 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: A crucified, dead, and risen God is the “foolishness” of the faith: it is credible because absurd, certain because impossible; and it is only true if Christ had real flesh, as he showed after the resurrection.

  • This chapter contains Tertullian's famous paradoxes (“credibile est, quia ineptum est … certum est, quia impossibile est”), often misquoted as “I believe because it is absurd”. The allusions and quotations are 1 Cor 1:18–25; 1 Cor 3:18; 1 Cor 2:2; 1 Cor 15:3–4, 14; Mark 8:38 (Luke 9:26); Luke 24:39.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): Mercion → Marcion; eircumcidi → circumcidi; menimento → monumento; noune vere → nonne vere; nonae vere → nonne vere; resurresit → resurrexit; venia implexam → venis implexam; hine natum → hinc natum; hine infirmum → hinc infirmum; artiflcem → artificem; avocatorom → avocatorem.

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Tertullian, Carn. Chr. 5 (Oehler 2:433–435; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-carne/1/#p-5).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Oehler 2; made independently of existing English translations.

Chapter 6

6Oehler 2:435–438

Sed quidam discentes Pontici illius, supra magistrum sapere compulsi, concedunt Christo carnis veritatem, sine praeiudicio tamen renuendae nativitatis. Habuerit, inquiunt, carnem dum omnino non natam. Pervenimus igitur de calcaria, quod dici solet, in carbonariam, a Marcione ad Apellen, qui, posteaquam a disciplina Marcionis in mulierem carne lapsus, dehinc in virginem Philumenen spiritu eversus est, solidum Christi corpus, sed sine nativitate suscepit ab eo praedicare. Et angelo quidem illi Philumenes eadem voce apostolus respondebit qua ipsum illum iam tunc praecinebat, dicens, Etiamsi angelus de caelis aliter evangelizaverit vobis quam nos evangelizavimus, anathema sit. His vero, quae insuper argumentantur, nos resistemus. Confitentur vere corpus habuisse Christum. Unde materia, si non ex ea qualitate in qua videbatur? Unde corpus, si non caro corpus? Unde caro, si non nata? Quia nasci haberet ea futura quae nascitur, De sideribus, inquiunt, et de substantiis superioris mundi mutuatus est carnem. Et utique proponunt non esse mirandum corpus sine nativitate, cum et apud nos angelis licuerit nulla uteri opera in carnem processisse. Agnoscimus quidem ita relatum, sed tamen quale est ut alterius regulae fides ab ea fide quam impugnat instrumentum argumentationibus suis mutuetur? Quid illi cum Moyse qui deum Moysi reiecit? Si alius deus est, aliter sint res eius. Sed utantur haeretici omnes scripturis eius cuius utuntur etiam mundo. Erit illis hoc quoque testimonium iudicii, quod de exemplis ipsius blasphemias suas instruunt. Facile est veritati etiam nihil tale adversus eos praescribenti obtinere. Igitur qui carnem Christi ad exemplum proponunt angelorum, non natam dicentes, licet carnem, comparent velim et causas tam Christi quam et angelorum ob quas in carnem processerint. Nullus unquam angelus ideo descendit, ut crucifigeretur, ut mortem experiretur, ut a morte resuscitaretur. Si nunquam eiusmodi fuit causa angelorum corporanderum, habes causam cur non nascendo acceperint carnem. Non venerant mori, ideo nec nasci. At vero Christus mori missus nasci quoque necessario habuit, ut mori posset; non enim mori solet nisi quod nascitur. Mutuum debitum est nativitati cum mortalitate. Forma moriendi causa nascendi est. Si propter id quod moritur mortuus est Christus, id autem moritur quod et nascitur, consequens erat, immo praecedens, ut aeque nasceretur propter id quod nascitur, quia propter id ipsum mori habebat quod, quia nascitur, moritur. Non competebat non nasci pro quo mori competebat. Atquin tunc quoque inter angelos illos ipse dominus apparuit Abrahae sine nativitate, cum carne scilicet, pro eadem causae diversitate. Sed vos hoc non recipitis, non cum Christum recipientes qui iam tunc et adloqui et liberare et iudicare humanum genus ediscebat in carnis habitu non natae adhuc, quia nondum moriturae, nisi prius et nativitas eius et mortalitas annuntiarentur. Igitur probent angelos illos carnem de sideribus concepisse. Si non probant, quia nec scriptum est, nec Christi caro inde erit, cui angelorum accommodant exemplum. Constat angelos carnem non propriam portasse, utpote natura substantiae spiritalis, etsi corporis alicuius, sui tamen generis, in carnem autem humanam transfigurabiles ad tempus videri et congredi cum hominibus posse. Igitur cum relatum non sit unde sumpserint carnem, relinquitur intellectui nostro non dubitare hoc esse proprium angelicae potestatis, ex nulla materia corpus sibi sumere. Quanto magis, inquis, ex aliqua? Certum est. Sed nihil de hoc constat, quia scriptura non exhibet. Ceterum qui valent facere semetipsos quod natura non sunt, cur non valeant ex nulla substantia facere? Si fiunt quod non sunt, cur non ex eo fiant quod non est? Quod autem non est cum fit, ex nihilo est. Propterea nec requiritur nec ostenditur quid postea factum sit corporibus illorum. Quod de nihilo fuit, nihil factum est. Possunt nihil ipsum convertere in carnem qui semetipsos potuerunt convertere in carnem. Plus est naturam demutare quam facere materiam. Sed et si de materia necesse fuit angelos sumpsisse carnem, credibilius utique est de terrena materia quam de ullo genere caelestium substantiarum, cum adeo terrenae qualitatis extiterit ut terrenis pabulis pasta sit. Fuerit, sit nunc quoque siderea eodem modo terrenis pabulis pasta quando terrena non esset, quo terrena caelestibus pasta est quando caelestis non esset (legimus enim manna esui populo fuisse: Panem, inquit, angelorum edit homo), non tamen infringitur semel separata conditio dominicae carnis ex causa alterius dispositionis. Homo vere futurus usque ad mortem eam carnem oportebat indueret cuius est mors. Eam porro carnem, cuius est mors, nativitas antecedit.

But certain disciples of that man from Pontus, driven to be wiser than their master, grant Christ the reality of flesh, but without prejudice to their denial of his birth. “Let him have had flesh,” they say, “provided it was not born at all.” So we have come, as the saying goes, out of the lime-kiln into the charcoal-furnace, from Marcion to Apelles. After falling from Marcion's discipline into a woman in the flesh, Apelles was then overturned in spirit into the virgin Philumene, and undertook on her word to preach a solid body of Christ, but one without birth. To that angel of Philumene the apostle will answer in the same words in which he foretold him even then: “Even if an angel from heaven should preach a gospel to you other than we have preached to you, let him be anathema.” But to what they argue besides, we ourselves shall offer resistance. They confess that Christ truly had a body. From what material, if not from the quality in which he was seen? From where a body, if the body was not flesh? From where flesh, if not born? For what is to be born must have been born. “He borrowed his flesh,” they say, “from the stars and from the substances of the upper world.” And they certainly put it forward that a body without birth is nothing to wonder at, since in our own Scriptures too the angels were permitted to come forth into flesh with no work of the womb. We acknowledge that this is so recorded; but how is it that the faith of another rule borrows arguments for itself from the document of the faith it attacks? What has he to do with Moses who rejected the God of Moses? If there is another god, let his affairs be different. But let all heretics use the Scriptures of him whose world they also use. This too will be a witness against them at the judgement, that they build up their blasphemies from his own examples. It is easy for the truth to prevail even without laying down any such prescription against them. Those, then, who put forward Christ's flesh on the model of the angels, calling it not born, though flesh, should compare, I would ask, the reasons of both Christ and the angels for coming forth into flesh. No angel ever came down in order to be crucified, to experience death, to be raised from death. If there was never such a reason for the angels to take bodies, you have the reason why they did not receive flesh by being born. They had not come to die, and so not to be born either. But Christ, sent to die, necessarily had also to be born, so that he could die; for nothing usually dies except what is born. Birth and mortality owe each other a mutual debt. The prospect of dying is the reason for being born. If Christ died on account of that which dies, and that dies which is also born, it followed, or rather it came first, that he should likewise be born on account of what is born, because he had to die on account of that very thing which dies because it is born. It was not fitting that he should not be born for the sake of that for which it was fitting that he should die. Yet at that time too, among those angels, the Lord himself appeared to Abraham without birth, with flesh, of course, because of the same difference in reason. But you do not accept this, since you do not accept the Christ who even then was learning to address, to set free, and to judge the human race in the appearance of flesh not yet born, because not yet about to die, until first both his birth and his mortality had been announced. Let them prove, then, that those angels conceived flesh from the stars. If they do not prove it, since it is not written, neither will Christ's flesh come from there, to which they apply the example of the angels. It is agreed that the angels bore flesh not their own, since they are by nature of a spiritual substance, even if of some kind of body, yet of its own kind; but that they can be transfigured into human flesh for a time, to be seen and to have dealings with men. Since, then, it is not recorded from where they took flesh, it remains for our understanding not to doubt that this is a property of angelic power, to take a body for itself from no material. “How much more from some material,” you say. Certainly. But nothing is established about this, because Scripture does not show it. Besides, those who are able to make themselves what they are not by nature, why should they not be able to do so from no substance? If they become what they are not, why should they not become so from what is not? And what is not, when it comes to be, is from nothing. That is why it is neither asked nor shown what became of their bodies afterwards. What was from nothing became nothing. Those who could change themselves into flesh can change nothing itself into flesh. It is more to change a nature than to make material. But even if the angels had to take flesh from some material, it is certainly more credible that it was from earthly material than from any kind of heavenly substance, since it was of such an earthly quality that it was fed on earthly food. Suppose, too, that it was starry flesh, fed on earthly food when it was not earthly, in the same way that earthly flesh was fed on heavenly food when it was not heavenly (for we read that manna was food for the people: “Man ate the bread of angels,” it says); still, the condition of the Lord's flesh, set apart once for all by the reason of a different dispensation, is not overturned. Since he was truly to become man, even to death, he had to put on that flesh to which death belongs. And the flesh to which death belongs is preceded by birth.

Gal 1:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 18:1–8 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 16:15 (allusion, medium confidence) · Ps 78:25 (77:25 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Apelles granted Christ real flesh taken from the stars, but not birth; yet angels took flesh without birth because they did not come to die, whereas Christ came to die and so had to be born.

  • Pontus was Marcion's homeland. Philumene was a visionary whose revelations Apelles followed. The quotations are Gal 1:8 and Ps 78:25 (77:25 Vulg.); the allusions are Gen 18:1–8 and Exod 16. “From the lime-kiln into the charcoal-furnace” is a proverb like “out of the frying pan into the fire”.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (b read as h); OCR slip (e read as c); OCR slip (n read as u)): compuisi → compulsi; pracindicio → praeiudicio; renueudae → renuendae; inquint → inquiunt; omuino → omnino; lapaus → lapsus; ipsum ilium → ipsum illum; praecinebet → praecinebat; adversus cos → adversus eos; licat carnem → licet carnem; moriondi → moriendi; competehat → competebat; ediscehat → ediscebat; earnis → carnis.

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Tertullian, Carn. Chr. 6 (Oehler 2:435–438; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-carne/1/#p-6).

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Chapter 7

7Oehler 2:438–442

Sed quotiens de nativitate contenditur, omnes, qui respuunt eam ut praeiudicantem de carnis in Christo veritate, ipsum deum volunt negare esse natum, quia dixerit: Quae mihi mater, et qui mihi fratres? Audiat igitur et Apelles quid iam responsum sit a nobis Marcioni eo libello quo evangelium ipsius provocavimus, considerandam scilicet materiam pronuntiationis istius. Primo quidem nunquam quisquam annuntiasset illi matrem et fratres eius foris stantes qui non certus esset et habere illum matrem et fratres et ipsos esse quos tunc nuntiabat, vel retro cognitos vel tunc ibidem compertos; licet propterea abstulerint haereses ista de evangelio, quod et creditum patrem eius Ioseph fabrum et matrem Mariam et fratres et sorores eius optime notos sibi esse dicebant qui mirabantur doctrinam eius. Sed temptandi gratia nuntiaverant ei matrem et fratres, quos non habebat. Hoc quidem scriptura non dicit, alias non tacens cum quid temptationis gratia factum est erga cum. Ecce, inquit, surrexit legis doctor temptans eum. Et alibi, Et accesserunt ad eum pharisaei temptantes eum. Quod nemo prohibebat hic quoque significari temptandi gratia factum. Non recipio quod extra scripturam de tuo infers. Dehinc materia temptationis debet subesse. Quid temptandum putaverint in illo? utique natusne esset an non? Si enim hoc negavit responsio eius, hoc captavit nuntiatio temptatoris. Sed nulla temptatio, tendens ad agnitionem eius de quo dubitando temptat, ita subito procedit, ut non ante praecedat quaestio quae dubitationem inferens cogat temptationem. Porro si nusquam de nativitate Christi volutatum est, quid tu argumentaris voluisse illos per temptationem sciscitari quod nunquam produxerunt in quaestionem? Eo adicimus etiam, si temptandus esset de nativitate, non utique hoc modo temptaretur, earum personarum annuntiatione quae poterant etiam nato Christo non fuisse. Omnes nascimur, et tamen non omnes aut fratres habemus aut matrem. Adhuc potest et patrem magis habere quam matrem, et avunculos magis quam fratres. Adeo non competit temptatio nativitatis, quam licebat et sine matris et sine fratrum nominatione constare. Facilius plane est ut certi illum ut matrem et fratres habere divinitatem potius temptaverint eius quam nativitatem, an intus agens sciret quid foris esset, mendacio petitus praesentiae annuntiatas eorum, qui in praesentia non erant. Nisi quod sic vacuisset temptationis ingenium. Poterat enim evenire, ut quos illi nuntiabunt foris stare, ille eos sciret absentes esse, vel valetudinis vel negotii vel peregrinationis notae iam necessitate. Nemo temptat eo modo quo sciat posse se ruborem temptationis referre. Nulla igitur materia temptationis competente liberatur simplicitas nuntiationis, quod vere mater et fratres eius super venissent. Sed quae ratio responsi matrem et fratres ad praesens negantis discat etiam Apelles. Fratres domini non crediderant in illum, sicut evangelio ante Marcionem edito continetur. Mater aeque non demonstratur adhaesisse illi, cum Marthae et Mariae aliae in commercio eius frequententur. Hoc denique in loco apparet incredulitas eorum: cum Iesus doceret viam vitae, cum dei regnum praedicaret, cum languoribus et vitiis medendis operaretur, extraneis defixis in illum tam proximi aberant. Denique superveniunt et foris subsistunt, nec introsunt, non computantes scilicet quid intus ageretur, nec sustinent saltem, quasi necessarius aliquid afferrent eo quod ille cum maxime agebat, sed amplius interpellant et a tanto opere revocatum volunt. Oro te, Apelle, vel tu, Marcion, si forte tabula ludens vel de histrionibus aut aurigis contendens tali nuntio avocareris, nonne dixisses: Quae mihi mater, aut qui fratres? Deum praedicans et probans Christus, legem et prophetas adimplens, tanti retro aevi caliginem dispargens, indigne usus est hoc dicto ad percutiendam incredulitatem foris stantium vel ad excutiendam importunitatem ab opere revocantium? Ceterum ad negandam nativitatem alius fuisset ei locus et tempus et ordo sermonis, non eius qui posset pronuntiari etiam ab eo cui et mater esset et fratres. Cum indignatio parentes negat, non negat, sed obiurgat. Denique potiores fecit alios, et meritum praelationis ostendens, audientiam scilicet verbi, demonstrat qua condicione negaverit matrem et fratres. Qua enim alios sibi adoptavit qui ei adhaerebant, ea abnegavit illos qui ab eo adsistebant. Solet etiam adimplere Christus quod alios docet. Quale ergo erat si docens non tanti facere matrem aut patrem aut fratres quanti dei verbum ipse dei verbum annuntiata matre et fraternitate desereret? Negavit itaque parentes quomodo docuit negandos pro dei opere. Sed et alias figura est synagogae in matre abiuncta et Iudaeorum in fratribus incredulis. Foris erat in illis Israël, discipuli autem novi intus audientes et credentes cohaerentes Christo ecclesiam deliniabant, quam potiorem matrem et digniorem fraternitatem recusato carnali genere nuncupavit. Eodem sensu denique et illi exclamationi respondit, non matris uterum et ubera negans, sed feliciores designans qui verbum dei audiunt.

But whenever there is a dispute about the birth, all who reject it as prejudging the reality of the flesh in Christ want to deny that God himself was born, because he said: “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” Let Apelles too, then, hear what we have already answered to Marcion in the little book in which we challenged his gospel: namely, that the occasion of this saying must be considered. First, no one would ever have told him that his mother and brothers were standing outside unless he were sure both that he had a mother and brothers and that these were the ones he was then announcing, whether known before or discovered then and there; although the heresies removed from the gospel the fact that those who marvelled at his teaching said that his supposed father Joseph the carpenter, and his mother Mary, and his brothers and sisters were very well known to them. “But they had announced to him a mother and brothers whom he did not have, in order to test him.” Scripture does not say this, though elsewhere it is not silent when something was done to him in order to test him. “Behold,” it says, “a teacher of the law stood up, testing him.” And elsewhere: “And the Pharisees came to him, testing him.” “Nothing prevented its being signified here too that it was done to test him.” I do not accept what you bring in of your own from outside Scripture. Next, there must be some matter for the test. What did they think needed testing in him? Whether he was born or not, of course? For if his answer denied this, the tester's announcement was angling for it. But no test aimed at learning something doubted comes on so suddenly that a question does not first go before it, raising the doubt and prompting the test. Further, if the birth of Christ had never been discussed, why do you argue that they wanted to find out by a test what they had never raised as a question? We add this also: if he were to be tested about his birth, he would certainly not have been tested in this way, by announcing persons who might not have existed even if Christ had been born. We are all born, and yet we do not all have brothers or a mother. One may even have a father rather than a mother, and uncles rather than brothers. So a test of his birth does not fit, since birth could stand even without naming mother or brothers. It is plainly easier to suppose that, being sure that he had a mother and brothers, they were testing his divinity rather than his birth: whether, being inside, he knew what was outside, when tried with a false announcement of the presence of people who were not present. Except that in that case the cleverness of the test would have come to nothing. For it could have happened that those whom they announced to be standing outside he knew to be absent, through the known necessity of illness, or business, or travel. No one tests in a way by which he knows he may bring back only the embarrassment of the test. So, since there is no fitting matter for a test, the plain sense of the announcement is vindicated: his mother and brothers had really arrived. But let Apelles also learn the reason for an answer that denied his mother and brothers for the moment. The Lord's brothers had not believed in him, as is contained in the gospel published before Marcion. His mother likewise is not shown to have kept close to him, while Martha and the other Marys are often in his company. In this very place their unbelief appears: while Jesus was teaching the way of life, while he was preaching the kingdom of God, while he was at work healing illnesses and infirmities, strangers were fixed on him, while those so close to him were absent. At last they arrive and stay outside, and do not go in, evidently taking no account of what was going on inside; nor do they even wait, as if they were bringing something more necessary than what he was then chiefly doing, but they go further, interrupt, and want him called away from so great a work. I ask you, Apelles, or you, Marcion: if you were playing at the gaming board, or arguing about actors or charioteers, and were called away by such a message, would you not have said, “Who is my mother, or who are my brothers?” Christ, preaching and proving God, fulfilling the law and the prophets, dispersing the darkness of so long an age past: did he use this saying unworthily, to strike at the unbelief of those standing outside, or to shake off the importunity of those calling him away from his work? Besides, for denying his birth there would have been another place and time and kind of speech, not one which could be spoken even by someone who had a mother and brothers. When indignation denies one's family, it does not deny them but rebukes them. In short, he preferred others, and by showing the ground of their preference, namely hearing the word, he shows on what condition he denied his mother and brothers. For in the same way in which he adopted as his own the others who clung to him, he disowned those who stood apart from him. Christ also usually fulfils what he teaches others. What would it have been, then, if, while teaching that mother or father or brothers should not be valued as highly as the word of God, he himself had abandoned the word of God when his mother and brothers were announced? So he denied his family in the way he taught that family is to be denied for the sake of God's work. Besides, there is also a figure here: of the synagogue in the estranged mother, and of the Jews in the unbelieving brothers. In them Israel was outside, while the new disciples, inside, hearing and believing and cleaving to Christ, sketched out the church, which he called a preferable mother and a worthier brotherhood, setting aside his kin in the flesh. In the same sense, finally, he answered that exclamation too, not denying his mother's womb and breasts, but declaring more blessed those who hear the word of God.

Matt 12:46–50 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 8:19–21 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 13:55–56 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 10:25 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 19:3 (quotation, high confidence) · John 7:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 10:37 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 11:27–28 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Christ's saying “Who is my mother?” does not deny his birth: his mother and brothers really came, and he rebuked their unbelief and preferred those who hear God's word.

  • The “little book” is Against Marcion, book 4 (4.19). The quotations and allusions are Matt 12:46–50 (Luke 8:19–21); Matt 13:55–56; Luke 10:25; Matt 19:3; John 7:5; Matt 10:37; Luke 11:27–28. Tertullian's inference that Mary did not keep close to Jesus during his ministry is his own reading, drawn from this scene.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (e read as c); OCR slips): eo libello que evangelium → eo libello quo evangelium; pronuntialionis → pronuntiationis; fratras → fratres; matris lot sine → matris et sine; divinitatem potius temptaverint cius → divinitatem potius temptaverint eius; an intas agens → an intus agens; ille cos sciret abrentes → ille eos sciret absentes; incredulitas corum → incredulitas eorum; necessarius aliquid afferrent co quod → necessarius aliquid afferrent eo quod; contendeus → contendens; indigue → indigne; Indaeorum → Iudaeorum.

Extrabiblical texts: Tertullian, Marc. 4.19 (Against Marcion; allusion)

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Tertullian, Carn. Chr. 7 (Oehler 2:438–442; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-carne/1/#p-7).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Oehler 2; made independently of existing English translations.

Chapter 8

8Oehler 2:442–443

Solis istis capitulis, quibus maxime instructi sibi videntur Marcion et Apelles, secundum veritatem integri et incorrupti evangelii interpretatis satis esse debuerat ad probationem carnis humanae in Christo per defensionem nativitatis. Sed quoniam et isti Apelleiaci carnis ignominiam praetendunt maxime, quam volunt ab igneo illo praeside mali sollicitatis animabus adstructam et idcirco indignam Christo, et idcirco de sideribus illi substantiam competisse, debeo eos de sua paratura repercutere. Angelum quendam inclitum nominant qui mundum hunc instituerit et instituto eo paenitentiam admiserit. Et hoc suo loco tractavimus. Nam est nobis et ad illos libellus, an qui spiritum et voluntatem et virtutem Christi habuerit ad ea opera, dignum aliquid paenitentia fecerit, cum angelum etiam de figura erraticae ovis interpretantur. Teste igitur paenitentia institutoris sui peccatum erit mundus, siquidem omnis paenitentia confessio est delicti, quia locum non habet nisi in delicto. Si mundus delictum est, qua corpus et membra delictum erit perinde et caelum et caelestia et quicquid inde conceptum prolatumque est. Et mala arbor malos fructus edat necesse est. Caro igitur Christi de caelestibus structa de peccati constat elementis, peccatrix de peccatorio censu, et pars iam erit eius substantiae, id est nostrae, quam ut peccatricem Christo dedignantur inducere. Ita si nihil de ignominia interest, aut aliquam purioris notae materiam excogitent Christo quibus displicet nostra, aut eandem agnoscant qua etiam caelestis melior esse non potuit. Legimus plane, Primus homo de terrae limo, secundus homo de caelo. Non tamen ad materiae differentiam spectat, sed tantum terrenae retro substantiae carnis primi hominis, id est Adae, caelestem de spiritu substantiam opponit secundi hominis, id est Christi. Et adeo ad spiritum, non ad carnem caelestem hominem refert, ut quos ei comparat constet in hac carne terrena caelestes fieri, spiritu scilicet. Quodsi secundum carnem quoque caelestis Christus, non compararentur illi non secundum carnem caelestes. Si ergo qui fiunt caelestes, qualis et Christus, terrenam carnis substantiam gestant, hinc quoque confirmatur ipsum etiam Christum in carne terrena fuisse caelestem, sicut ii sunt qui ei adaequantur.

These chapters alone, with which Marcion and Apelles think themselves chiefly armed, once interpreted according to the truth of the whole and uncorrupted gospel, ought to have been enough to prove the human flesh in Christ by defending his birth. But since these followers of Apelles put forward above all the ignominy of the flesh, which they claim was built for enticed souls by that fiery ruler of evil, and is therefore unworthy of Christ, so that a substance from the stars befitted him, I must strike them back with their own equipment. They name a certain renowned angel who founded this world and, having founded it, repented. This too we have treated in its place; for we have a little book against them as well, on whether one who had the spirit and will and power of Christ for those works could have done anything worthy of repentance, since they even interpret the angel by the figure of the stray sheep. So, by the witness of its founder's repentance, the world will be a sin, since every repentance is a confession of a fault, because it has no place except where there is a fault. If the world is a fault, then, as its body and members, heaven too and the heavenly things, and whatever has been conceived and brought forth from there, will likewise be a fault. And a bad tree must bear bad fruit. So Christ's flesh, built from heavenly things, consists of the elements of sin, sinful from a sinful source, and will already be part of that substance, namely ours, which they disdain to bring into Christ as sinful. So if there is no difference as to ignominy, let those who dislike our flesh either devise for Christ some material of a purer stamp, or acknowledge this same flesh, than which even heavenly material could not be better. We read, plainly: “The first man was from the clay of the earth, the second man from heaven.” Yet this does not look to a difference of material; it only sets over against the earthly substance of the flesh of the first man, that is, Adam, the heavenly substance from the Spirit of the second man, that is, Christ. And it refers the heavenly man to the Spirit, not to the flesh, so much so that those whom it compares to him are agreed to become heavenly in this earthly flesh, by the Spirit, of course. But if Christ were heavenly also according to the flesh, those who are not heavenly according to the flesh would not be compared with him. If, then, those who become heavenly, as Christ also is, bear an earthly substance of flesh, it is confirmed from this too that Christ himself also was heavenly in earthly flesh, as are those who are made like him.

Luke 15:4–7 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 7:17–18 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:47 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:48–49 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The followers of Apelles call earthly flesh shameful, but by their own myth the heavens too are tainted; Paul's “man from heaven” refers to Christ's Spirit, not to a heavenly flesh.

  • Apelles taught that the world was made by a “renowned angel” who later repented, and that souls were enticed into flesh by a “fiery” angel. Tertullian's book against the followers of Apelles is lost. The allusions and quotations are Luke 15:4–7; Matt 7:17–18; 1 Cor 15:47–49.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): ignomisiam → ignominiam; locum non hehet → locum non habet.

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Tertullian, Carn. Chr. 8 (Oehler 2:442–443; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-carne/1/#p-8).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Oehler 2; made independently of existing English translations.