Against Marcion 3.10

Summary: If Marcion's god despised flesh, he should also have scorned its likeness; by feigning flesh he honors it, and the Creator could appear without flesh when he chose.

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Latin text · CSEL 47:392–393

Igitur non admissus ad consortium exemplorum creatoris, ut alienorum et suas habentium causas, uelim edas et ipse consilium dei tui, quo Christum suum non in ueritate carnis exhibuit. si aspernatus est illam ut terrenam et, ut dicitis. stercoribus infersam, cur non et simulacrum eius proinde despexit? nullius enim dedignandae rei imago dignanda est: sequitur statum similitudo. sed quomodo inter homines conuersaretur, nisi per imaginem substantiae humanae? cur ergo non potius per ueritatem, ut uere conuersaretur, si necesse habebat conuersari? quanto dignius necessitas fidem quam stropham administrasset! satis miserum deum instituis, hoc ipso, quod Christum suum non potuit exhibere nisi in indignae rei effigie. et quidem alienae. aliquatenus enim indignis conueniet uti, si nostris, sicut alienis non congruet uti, licet dignis. cur enim non in aliqua alia digniore substantia uenit, et inprimis sua, ne et indigna et aliena uideretur eguisse? si creator meus per rubum quoque et ignem, idem postea per nubem et globum cum homine congressus est et elementorum corporibus in repraesentationibus sui usus est, satis haec exempla diuinae potestatis ostendunt deum non eguisse aut falsae aut etiam uerae carnis paraturae. ceterum si ad certum spectamus, nulla substantia digna est, quam deus induat. quodcumque induerit, ipse dignum facit, absque mendacio tamen. et ideo quale est, ut dedecus existimarit ueritatem potius quam mendacium carnis? atquin honorauit illam fingendo. quanta iam caro est, cuius phantasma necessarium fuit deo superiori!

English · Claude translation

So, since you are not admitted to share in the Creator's examples, as belonging to another and having reasons of their own, I should like you yourself to set out your god's plan in exhibiting his Christ not in the reality of flesh. If he despised it as earthly and, as you people say, stuffed with dung, why did he not likewise scorn its likeness? For no image of a thing that deserves disdain deserves honor: the likeness follows the status. “But how could he live among men except through an image of human substance?” Why not rather through its reality, then, so as truly to live among them, if he had to live among them? How much more worthily would necessity have been served by good faith than by a trick! You make your god wretched enough by this very fact, that he could not exhibit his Christ except in the likeness of an unworthy thing, and one belonging to another at that. To some extent it will be fitting to use unworthy things if they are our own, just as it will not be fitting to use things belonging to another, even if worthy. Why then did he not come in some other, worthier substance, and above all his own, so as not to seem to have needed a thing both unworthy and foreign? If my Creator met with man through a bush and fire as well, and afterwards through a cloud and a pillar, and made use of the bodies of the elements in representations of himself, these examples of divine power show well enough that God did not need to provide either false or even true flesh. But if we look at the truth of the matter, no substance is worthy for God to put on. Whatever he puts on, he himself makes worthy, yet without a lie. And so what sort of thing is it that he should have thought the reality of flesh a disgrace rather than its falsehood? Yet he honored it by feigning it. How great flesh must be, when a phantom of it was necessary to a superior god!

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Source
CSEL 47:392–393 · Emil Kroymann, ed., Quinti Septimi Florentis Tertulliani Opera, Pars 3, CSEL 47 (Vienna: Tempsky; Leipzig: Freytag, 1906), 290–650 · Latin text: Emil Kroymann (CSEL 47), digitized by Open Greek and Latin, University of Leipzig (csel-dev), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in CSEL 47. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Latin text of CSEL 47; made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 3 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)
Scripture
Topics
Christology, Heresy

Notes

Translation notes

  • The references are Exod 3:2 (the bush) and Exod 13:21 (the cloud and pillar).

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Tertullian, Marc. 3.10 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-marcionem/3/10/).

Plain text
Tertullian, Marc. 3.10 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-marcionem/3/10/).

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