Against Marcion 3.12
Summary: Christ fulfills the name Emmanuel in its meaning, “God with us,” which is what Christians, even Marcionites, confess him to be.
Textual problem in this passage: the printed text is uncertain or disputed here. See the notes.
Latin text · CSEL 47:395–396
Prouoca nunc, ut soles, ad hanc Esaiae comparationem Christi, contendens illam in nullo conuenire. primo enim, inquis, (Christus Esaiae Emmanuhel uocari habebit, dehinc uirtutem sumere Damasci et spolia Samariae aduersus regem Assyriorum. porro iste, qui uenit, neque sub eiusmodi nomine est editus neque ulla re bellica functus est. at ego te admonebo, uti cohaerentia quoque utriusque capituli recognoscas. subiuncta est enim et interpretatio Emmanuhelis: nobiscum deus, uti non solum sonum nominis spectes sed et sensum. sonus enim Hebraicus, quod est Emmanuhel, suae gentis est, sensus autem eius, quod est deus nobiscum, ex interpretatione communis est. quaere ergo an ista uox (nobiscum deus\\ quod est Emmanuhel, exinde quod Christus inluxit, agitetur in Christo. et puto. non negabis, utpote qui et ipse dicas (όdeun nobiscum\\ [dicitur] id est Emmanuhel. aut si tam uanus es, ut, quia penes te nobiscum deus dicitur, non Emmanuhel, idcirco nolis uenisse illum, cuius proprium sit uocari Emmanuhel, quasi non et hoc sit deus nobiscum, inuenies apud Hebraeos Christianos, immo et Marcionitas, Emmanuhelem nominare, cum uolunt dicere nobiscum deus; sicut et omnis gens, quoquo sono dixerit deus nobiscum, Emmanuhelem pronuntiabit, in sensu sonum expungens. quodsi Emmanuhel nobiscum deus est, deus autem nobiscum Christus est, qui etiam in nobis est, — quotquot enim in Christum tincti estis, Christum induistis — tam proprie est Christus in significatione nominis, quod est (nobiscum deus, quam in sono nominis, quod est Emmanuhel. atque ita constat uenisse iam illum, qui praedicabatur Emmanuhel. quia quod significat Emmanuhel uenit, id est nobiscum deus.
English · Claude translation
Challenge me now, as you usually do, over this comparison of Christ with Isaiah, contending that it fits in no respect. “For first,” you say, “Isaiah's Christ will have to be called Emmanuel, and then to take the power of Damascus and the spoils of Samaria against the king of the Assyrians. But this one who came was neither brought forth under a name of that kind nor engaged in any warfare.” But I will remind you to consider also what belongs with each of the two statements. For the interpretation of Emmanuel is added as well, “God with us,” so that you should look not only at the sound of the name but also at its sense. For the sound, Hebrew, that is “Emmanuel,” belongs to its own nation; but its sense, that is “God with us,” is common to all through translation. Ask, then, whether this phrase, “God with us,” which is “Emmanuel,” has been in use of Christ since Christ shone forth. And I think you will not deny it, since you yourself say “God with us,” that is, Emmanuel. Or if you are so foolish that, because with you he is called “God with us” and not “Emmanuel,” you therefore refuse to admit the coming of him whose proper title is to be called Emmanuel, as if this were not also “God with us,” you will find that among the Hebrews the Christians, and indeed the Marcionites, name Emmanuel when they mean to say “God with us”; just as every nation, in whatever sounds it says “God with us,” will be pronouncing Emmanuel, fulfilling the sound in the sense. But if Emmanuel is “God with us,” and “God with us” is Christ, who is even in us (“for as many of you as were dipped into Christ have put on Christ”), then Christ is as properly in the meaning of the name, “God with us,” as in the sound of the name, “Emmanuel.” And so it is established that he who was foretold as Emmanuel has already come, because what Emmanuel signifies has come, that is, “God with us.”
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Notes
Translation notes
- The passages under discussion are Isa 7:14 and Isa 8:4 (with Matt 1:23 for the interpretation); the quotation is Gal 3:27 (“dipped” renders tincti, baptized). The digital text is corrupt at “(όdeun nobiscum\ [dicitur]”, read as “God with us”; the backslashes are the digital text's marks for parentheses.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray letter): soles, t ad → soles, ad.
Cite this passage
Tertullian, Marc. 3.12 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-marcionem/3/12/).
Plain text
Tertullian, Marc. 3.12 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-marcionem/3/12/).
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