Against Marcion 4.11

Summary: The call of Levi, the question of fasting, Christ as bridegroom, and the sayings on new wine and patches all show Christ fulfilling the Creator's law and prophets, not separating from a foreign god.

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Latin text · CSEL 47:449–452

Publicanum adlectum a domino in argumentum deducit, quasi ab aduersario legis adlectum extraneum legis et Iudaismi profanum. excidit ei uel de Petro, legis homine et tamen non tantum adlecto sed etiam testimonium consecuto agnitionis praestitae a patre; nusquam legerat lumen et spem et expectationem nationum praedicari Christum. atquin probauit potius Iudaeos, dicendo medicum sanis non esse necessarium, sed male habentibus. si enim male ualentes uoluit intellegi ethnicos et publicanos,. quos adlegebat sanos Iudaeos confirmabat, quibus medicum necessarium negabat. hoc si ita est, male descendit ad legem destruendam quasi ad malam ualitudinem remediandam, in qua qui agebant bene ualebant, quibus medicus necessarius non erat. quale est autem, ut similitudinem medici proposuerit nec impleuerit? nam sicut sanis medicum nemo adhibet, ita nec in tantum extraneis, quantum est homo a deo Marcionis, suum habens et auctorem et protectorem et ab illo potius medicum Christum. hoc similitudo praeiudicat, ab eo magis praestari medicum, ad quem pertinent qui languent. Unde autem et Iohannes uenit in medium? subito Christus, subito Iohannes. sic sunt omnia apud Marcionem, quae suum et plenum habent ordinem apud creatorem. sed de Iohanne cetera alibi. ad praesentes enim quosque articulos respondendum est. nunc illud tuebor, ut demonstrem et Iohannem Christo et Christum Iohanni conuenire, utique qua prophetae creatoris Christum creatoris, atque ita erubescat haereticus, Iohannes ordinem frustra frustratus. si enim nihil omnino administrasset Iohannes, secundum Esaiam uociferator in solitudinem et praeparator uiarum dominicarum per denuntiationem et laudationem paenitentiae, si non etiam ipsum inter ceteros tinxisset, nemo discipulos Christi manducantes et bibentes ad formam discipulorum Iohannis adsidue ieiunantium et orantium prouocasset, quia, si qua diuersitas staret inter Christum et Iohannem et gregem utriusque, nulla esset comparationis exactio, uacaret prouocationis intentio. nemo enim miraretur et nemo torqueretur, si diuersae diuinitatis aemulae praedicationes de disciplinis quoque inter se non conuenirent, non conuenientes prius de auctoritatibus disciplinarum. adeo Iohannis erat Christus et Iohannes Christi, ambo creatoris et ambo de lege et prophetis praedicatores et magistri. si Christus - reiecisset Iohannis disciplinam, ut dei alterius, et discipulos defendisset, ut merito aliter incedentes, aliam scilicet et contrariam initiatos diuinitatem, — at nunc, humiliter reddens rationem, quod non possent ieiunare filii sponsi quamdiu cum eis esset sponsus, postea uero ieiunaturos promittens, cum ablatus ab eis sponsus esset, nec discipulos defendit, sed potius excusauit, quasi non sine ratione reprehensos, nec Iohannis reiecit disciplinam, sed magis concessit, [tempori Iohannis eam praestans] ut tempori suo eam destinans, reiecturus alioquin eam et defensurus aemulos eius, si non ipsius fuisset iam quae erat. teneo meum Christum etiam in nomine sponsi, de quo psalmus: ipse tamquam sponsus egrediens de thalamo suo: a summo caeli profectio eius et deuersio eius ad summum usque eius, qui etiam per Esaiam gaudens ad patrem: exultet, inquit, anima mea in domino; induit enim me indumentum salutaris et tunicam iocunditatis, uelut sponso circumposuit mihi mitram, uelut sponsae **. in se enim et ecclesiam deputat, de qua idem spiritus ad ipsum: et circumpones tibi omnes eos uelut ornamentum sponsae. hanc sponsam Christus sibi etiam per Salomonem ex uocatione gentium arcessit, si quidem legisti: ueni, sponsa, de Libano, eleganter Libani utique montis mentione iniecta, qui turis uocabulo est penes Graecos; de idolatria enim sibi sponsabat ecclesiam. nega nunc te dementissimum, Marcion. ecce legem tui quoque dei impugnas. nuptias non coniungit, coniunctas non admittit, neminem tingit nisi caelibem aut spadonem, morti aut repudio baptisma seruat. quid itaque Christum eius sponsum facis? illius hoc nomen est, qui masculum et feminam coniunxit, non qui separauit. Errasti in illa etiam domini pronuntiatione, qua uidetur noua et uetera. discernere. inflatus es utribus ueteribus et excerebratus es nouo uino, atque ita ueteri, id est priori euangelio, pannum haereticae nouitatis adsuisti. in quo aliter creator, uelim discere. cum per Hieremiam praecipit: nouato uobis nouamen nouum, nonne a ueteribus auertit? cum per Esaiam edicit: uetera transierunt. ecce noua, quae ego facio, nonne ad noua conuertit? olim hanc statuimus destinationem pristinorum a creatore potius repromissam a Christo exhiberi, sub unius [dei] et eiusdem dei auctoritate, cuius sint et uetera et noua. nam et uinum nouum is non committit in ueteres utres, qui nec ueteres utres habuerit, et nouum additamentum nemo inicit ueteri uestimento, nisi cui non defuerit et uetus uestimentum. ille non facit quid, si faciendum non est. qui (non) habeat, unde faciat, si faciendum esset. itaque si in hoc dirigebat similitudinem, ut ostenderet se euangelii nouitatem separare a legis uetustate, suam demonstrabat et illam, a qua separabat. alienorum separatio non fuisset notanda, quia nemo alienis sua adiungit, ut ab alienis separare possit. separatio per coniunctionem capit, de qua fit. ita quae separabat et in uno ostendebat fuisse, sicut et fuissent, si non separaret. et tamen, si concedimus separationem istam, per reformationem, per amplitudinem, per profectum. sicut fructus separatur a semine, cum sit fructus ex semine, sic et euangelium separatur a lege, dum prouehitur ex lege, aliud ab illa, sed non alienum. diuersum, sed non contrarium. nec forma sermonis in Christo noua. cum similitudines obicit, cum quaestiones refutat, de septuagesimo (septimo) uenit psalmo: aperiam, inquit, in parabolam os meum, id est similitudinem; eloquar problemata. id est edisseram quaestiones. si hominem alterius gentis probare uoluisset, utique de proprietate loquelae probaret.,

English · Claude translation

He brings forward as an argument the tax collector chosen by the Lord, as though chosen by an adversary of the law, a stranger to the law and a profane outsider to Judaism. He forgot Peter, a man of the law, who was not only chosen but also received testimony for the recognition given him by the Father; he had nowhere read that Christ was foretold as the light and hope and expectation of the nations. On the contrary, Christ rather approved the Jews in saying that the physician is not needed by the healthy but by the sick. For if he wished the heathen and tax collectors whom he was choosing to be understood as the sick, he was confirming that the Jews were healthy, to whom he said a physician was not needed. If this is so, he did wrong to come down to destroy the law, as if to cure a bad illness, since those who lived under it were in good health and had no need of a physician. And what sort of thing is it that he put forward the comparison of a physician and did not carry it out? For as no one brings a physician to the healthy, so no one brings one to those who are so much strangers as man is to Marcion's god, man having his own author and protector, and from him rather Christ as physician. The comparison settles this in advance: that a physician is rather provided by the one to whom the sick belong. But where did John come from, too, into the midst? A sudden Christ, a sudden John! So are all things with Marcion which have their own full order with the Creator. But the rest about John elsewhere; for each point must be answered as it comes up. Now I shall maintain this: to show that John agrees with Christ and Christ with John, as the Creator's prophet agrees with the Creator's Christ, and so let the heretic blush, having frustrated John's course in vain. For if John had done nothing at all as, according to Isaiah, the one crying out in the wilderness and preparer of the Lord's ways by proclaiming and commending repentance; if he had not also dipped Christ himself among the rest, no one would have challenged Christ's disciples, who ate and drank, by the standard of John's disciples, who were constantly fasting and praying; because, if there had been any difference between Christ and John and the flock of each, there would be no demand for comparison, and the aim of the challenge would be empty. For no one would wonder, and no one would be troubled, if the rival preachings of different divinities did not agree with each other about disciplines either, when they did not first agree about the authorities behind those disciplines. So Christ was John's, and John Christ's, both belonging to the Creator, and both preachers and teachers from the law and the prophets. If Christ had rejected John's discipline as belonging to another god, and had defended his disciples as rightly walking otherwise, as initiated, that is, into another and contrary divinity, well and good; but as it is, humbly giving the reason that the sons of the bridegroom could not fast while the bridegroom was with them, and promising that they would fast afterwards, when the bridegroom had been taken away from them, he neither defended his disciples, but rather excused them, as not having been rebuked without reason, nor rejected John's discipline, but rather conceded it, appointing it to his own time; whereas he would otherwise have rejected it and defended its rivals, if what was already in existence had not been his own. I hold my Christ in the name of bridegroom too, of whom the psalm says: “He is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber; his going forth is from the height of heaven, and his return to its very height”; who also rejoices to the Father through Isaiah: “Let my soul exult in the Lord, for he has clothed me with the garment of salvation and the tunic of joy; like a bridegroom he has put a miter on me, like a bride …” For he reckons the church too as in himself, of whom the same Spirit says to him: “And you will put them all around you like a bride's ornament.” This bride Christ also summons to himself through Solomon from the calling of the nations, since you have read: “Come, bride, from Lebanon”; with an elegant mention of Mount Lebanon, of course, whose name among the Greeks means frankincense, for he was betrothing the church to himself out of idolatry. Deny now, Marcion, that you are utterly mad. See, you are attacking the law of your own god too. He does not join marriages, does not admit those already joined, dips no one but a celibate or a eunuch, and reserves baptism for death or divorce. Why then do you make his Christ a bridegroom? This is the name of the one who joined male and female, not of one who separated them. You have also erred in that saying of the Lord in which he seems to distinguish new things and old. You are puffed up with old wineskins and have lost your brain to new wine, and so have sewn onto the old, that is the earlier, gospel the patch of heretical novelty. In what, I should like to learn, does the Creator differ? When he commands through Jeremiah, “Break up new fallow ground for yourselves,” does he not turn them away from the old? When he declares through Isaiah, “The old things have passed away; behold the new things which I make,” does he not turn them to the new? We have long since established that this appointment of former things, promised rather by the Creator, is displayed by Christ, under the authority of one and the same God, to whom both the old and the new belong. For no one commits new wine to old wineskins who has no old wineskins, and no one puts a new patch on an old garment unless he also has an old garment. He does not do something, if it is not to be done, who has the means to do it, if it were to be done. So if he was aiming the comparison at this, to show that he was separating the newness of the gospel from the oldness of the law, he was showing that the one from which he was separating it was also his own. The separation of things belonging to others would not have been worth noting, since no one joins his own things to another's in order to be able to separate them from another's. Separation presupposes the joining from which it is made. So the things he was separating he was also showing to have been in one, as they would have remained if he had not separated them. And yet, if we grant this separation, it is by reformation, by enlargement, by progress; as the fruit is separated from the seed, though the fruit comes from the seed, so the gospel is separated from the law while it advances out of the law: other than it, but not foreign to it; different, but not contrary. Nor is Christ's manner of speech new. When he puts forward comparisons, when he refutes questions, it comes from the seventy-seventh psalm: “I will open my mouth,” he says, “in a parable,” that is, a comparison; “I will utter problems,” that is, I will set out questions. If he had wished to show himself a man of another nation, he would certainly have shown it by the peculiarity of his speech.

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Source
CSEL 47:449–452 · Emil Kroymann, ed., Quinti Septimi Florentis Tertulliani Opera, Pars 3, CSEL 47 (Vienna: Tempsky; Leipzig: Freytag, 1906), 290–650 · Latin text: Emil Kroymann (CSEL 47), digitized by Open Greek and Latin, University of Leipzig (csel-dev), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in CSEL 47. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; the problem in this passage is discussed in the notes.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Latin text of CSEL 47; made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 3 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)
Scripture
Extrabiblical texts
  • Tertullian, Marc. 1.29 (Against Marcion) · allusion, medium confidence
Topics
Christology, Heresy, Marriage, Baptism, Fasting

Notes

Translation notes

  • The gospel passages are Luke 5:27–39 (Levi; the physician; fasting and the bridegroom; patch and wineskins) and Matt 16:17 (Peter's recognition from the Father). The prophecies are Isa 42:6 and Gen 49:10 LXX (light and expectation of the nations); Isa 40:3; Ps 19:5–6 (18:6–7 Vulg.); Isa 61:10; Isa 49:18; Song 4:8 (Lebanon, from Hebrew for white, here linked to Greek libanos, frankincense); Jer 4:3; Isa 43:18–19 with 2 Cor 5:17; Ps 78:2 (77:2 Vulg.; “the seventy-seventh psalm”); Gen 1:27 and Matt 19:4–6 (male and female joined). On Marcion's rule of baptizing only the unmarried, compare Marc. 1.29. The digital text has a gap (**) after “like a bride.”

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (l for I); split word): et ludaismi → et Iudaismi; inter ae → inter se; humi liter → humiliter; per l eformationein → per reformationem.

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Tertullian, Marc. 4.11 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-marcionem/4/11/).

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Tertullian, Marc. 4.11 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-marcionem/4/11/).

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