To Autolycus 2.5

Summary: Homer makes the water of Ocean the origin of the gods; Hesiod asks the Muses, who were born after the world, how the world began.

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Greek text · Otto 8:56–60

Ὥστε ἀσύμφωνός ἐστιν ἡ γνώμη κατὰ τοὺς φιλοσόφους καὶ συγγραφεῖς. Τούτων γὰρ ταῦτα ἀποφηναμένων, εὑρίσκεται ὁ ποιητὴς Ὅμηρος ἑτέρᾳ ὑποθέσει εἰσάγων γένεσιν οὐ μόνον κόσμου ἀλλὰ καὶ θεῶν. Φησὶν γάρ που· Ὠκεανόν τε, θεῶν γένεσιν, καὶ μητέρα Τηθύν, Ἐξ οὗ δὴ πάντες ποταμοὶ καὶ πᾶσα θάλασσα. Ἃ δὴ λέγων οὐκ ἔτι θεὸν συνιστᾷ. Τίς γὰρ οὐκ ἐπίσταται τὸν Ὠκεανὸν ὕδωρ εἶναι; Εἰ δὲ ὕδωρ, οὐκ ἄρα θεός. Ὁ δὲ θεός, εἰ τῶν ὅλων ποιητής ἐστιν, καθὼς καὶ ἔστιν, ἄρα καὶ τοῦ ὕδατος καὶ τῶν θαλασσῶν κτίστης ἐστίν. Ἡσίοδος δὲ καὶ αὐτὸς οὐ μόνον θεῶν γένεσιν ἐξεῖπεν, ἀλλὰ καὶ αὐτοῦ τοῦ κόσμου. Καὶ τὸν μὲν κόσμον γενητὸν εἰπὼν ἠτόνησεν εἰπεῖν ὑφʼ οὗ γέγονεν. Ἔτι μὴν καὶ θεοὺς ἔφησεν Κρόνον καὶ τὸν ἐξ αὐτοῦ Δία, Ποσειδῶνά τε καὶ Πλούτωνα, καὶ τούτους μεταγενεστέρους εὑρίσκομεν τοῦ κόσμου. Ἔτι δὲ καὶ τὸν Κρόνον πολεμεῖσθαι ὑπὸ τοῦ Διὸς τοῦ ἰδίου παιδὸς ἱστορεῖ. Οὕτως γάρ φησιν· Κάρτεϊ νικήσας πατέρα Κρόνον· εὖ δὲ ἕκαστα Ἀθανάτοις διέταξεν ὁμῶς καὶ ἐπέφραδε τιμάς. Εἶτα ἐπιφέρει λέγων τὰς τοῦ Διὸς θυγατέρας, ἃς καὶ Μούσας προσαγορεύει, ὧν ἱκέτης εὑρίσκεται βουλόμενος μαθεῖν παρʼ αὐτῶν τίνι τρόπῳ τὰ πάντα γεγένηται. Λέγει γάρ· Χαίρετε, τέκνα Διός, δότε δʼ ἱμερόεσσαν ἀοιδήν. Κλείετε δʼ ἀθανάτων μακάρων γένος αἰὲν ἐόντων, Οἳ γῆς ἐξεγένοντο καὶ οὐρανοῦ ἀστερόεντος, Νυκτός τε δνοφερῆς, οὓς ἁλμυρὸς ἔτρεφε πόντος. Εἴπατε δʼ ὡς τὰ πρῶτα θεοὶ καὶ γαῖα γένοντο, Καὶ ποταμοὶ καὶ πόντος ἀπείριτος, οἴδματι θύων, Ἄστρα τε λαμπετόωντα καὶ οὐρανὸς εὐρὺς ὕπερθεν, Ὥς τʼ ἄφενος δάσσαντο καὶ ὡς τιμὰς διέλοντο, Ἠδὲ καὶ ὡς τὰ πρῶτα πολύπτυχον ἔσχον Ὄλυμπον. Ταῦτά μοι ἔσπετε Μοῦσαι Ὀλύμπια δώματʼ ἔχουσαι Ἐξ ἀρχῆς, καὶ εἴπαθʼ ὅ τι πρῶτον γένετʼ αὐτῶν. Πῶς δὲ ταῦτα ἠπίσταντο αἱ Μοῦσαι, μεταγενέστεραι οὖσαι τοῦ κόσμου; Ἢ πῶς ἠδύναντο διηγήσασθαι τῷ Ἡσιόδῳ, ὅκου δὴ ὁ πατὴρ αὐτῶν οὔπω γεγένηται;

English · Claude translation

So the opinions of the philosophers and writers do not agree. While they declared these views, the poet Homer is found introducing, on another theory, the origin not only of the world but also of the gods. He says somewhere: “Ocean, origin of the gods, and mother Tethys, from whom come all the rivers and every sea.” In saying this he no longer establishes a god; for who does not know that Ocean is water? And if water, then not a god. God, if he is the Maker of all things, as indeed he is, is also the Creator of water and of the seas. Hesiod too told of the origin not only of the gods but also of the world itself. And though he said the world was created, he lacked the strength to say by whom it was made. Moreover he said that the gods were Kronos, and Zeus his son, and Poseidon and Pluto; and we find that these are later than the world. He also relates that Kronos was warred upon by Zeus, his own son. For he says: “Having conquered by might his father Kronos; and he ordered all things well for the immortals alike and appointed their honors.” Then he goes on to tell of the daughters of Zeus, whom he calls the Muses, and he is found as their suppliant, wishing to learn from them how all things came into being. For he says: “Hail, children of Zeus, and grant me lovely song; celebrate the holy race of the immortals who are forever, who were born of Earth and starry Heaven and dark Night, and whom the salt Sea nourished. Tell how at first the gods and earth came to be, and the rivers and the boundless sea raging with its swell, and the shining stars and the wide heaven above; how they divided their wealth and shared out their honors, and how at first they took possession of Olympus with its many folds. Tell me these things, you Muses who have your homes on Olympus, from the beginning, and say which of them first came to be.” But how did the Muses know these things, since they were later than the world? Or how could they tell them to Hesiod, when their father had not yet been born?

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Source
Otto 8:56–60 · Johann Carl Theodor Otto, ed., Theophili episcopi Antiocheni ad Autolycum libri tres, Corpus apologetarum Christianorum saeculi secundi 8 (Jena: Mauke, 1861) · Greek text: J. C. T. Otto, Theophili episcopi Antiocheni ad Autolycum libri tres (Corpus apologetarum Christianorum saeculi secundi 8, 1861), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in Otto, CorpApol 8. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-26 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Otto (1861); made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 2 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)
Extrabiblical texts
  • Homer, Il. 14.201 (Homer, Iliad) · quotation, high confidence
  • Homer, Il. 21.196 (Homer, Iliad) · quotation, high confidence
  • Hesiod, Theog. 73–74 (Hesiod, Theogony) · quotation, high confidence
  • Hesiod, Theog. 104–115 (Hesiod, Theogony) · quotation, high confidence

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  • Homer, Iliad 14.201 and 21.196; Hesiod, Theogony 73–74 and 104–115.

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Theophilus, Autol. 2.5 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/theophilus-autolycus/2/5/).

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Theophilus, Autol. 2.5 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/theophilus-autolycus/2/5/).

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