On the Christian Faith 5.3–5.7
Latin text: Migne, PL 16 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 2, vol. 10 (1896).
Chapter 5
5.3PL 16:622b–623c
Sed asserunt Ariani: Si solum verum Deum sicut Patrem, ita et Filium dicitis, et unius substantiæ Patrem et Filium confitemini, non unum Deum, sed duos deos inducitis; quia qui unius substantiæ sunt, non unus Deus, sed duo dii videntur esse, sicut duo homines, aut duæ oves, pluresve dicuntur: homo autem et ovis nec duo homines dicuntur, nec duæ oves, sed unus homo, et una ovis. Haec Ariani dicunt, et hac disputatione versuta simpliciores capere nituntur. Tamen si legamus Scripturas divinas, inveniemus pluralitatem magis in ea cadere, quæ diversæ discretæque substantiae sunt, hoc est, έτερουσία. Idque in Salomonis libris habemus expressum, eo loco scilicet in quo dicit: Tria sunt autem impossibilia intelligere, et quartum quod non cognosco; vestigia aquilæ volantis, et vias serpentis super petram, et semitas navis navigantis, et vias viri in juventute. Utique aquila et navis et serpens unius non sunt generis atque naturæ, sed differentis discretæque substantiæ, et tamen tria sunt. Contra se igitur sua esse intelligunt argumenta testimoniis Scripturarum. Itaque dicendo Patris et Filii discretam esse substantiam, differentemque deitatem, duos utique ipsi deos asserunt: nos autem cum et Patrem confitemur, et Filium; asserendo tamen unius esse deitatis non duos deos, sed unum Deum dicimus. Et hoc Dominicis eloquiis approbamus; quia ubi plures sunt, ibi aut naturæ aut voluntatum et ope rationum est differentia. Denique ut suis sibi testi moniis revincantur, duo homines dicuntur; quia licet unius naturæ sint jure nascendi, tamen et tempore et cogitatione et opere et loco distant: et ideo non potest unus homo dici in significatione et numero duorum; quia unitas non est, ubi est diver sitas: unus autem Deus dicitur, et Patris et Filii ac Spiritus sancti gloria et plenitudo signatur. Denique tanta veritas unitatis est, ut etiam quando natura sola generationis aut carnis significatur humanæ, et unus homo de multis dicatur, sicut habes: Dominus mihi adjutor, non timebo quid faciat mihi homo ( Psal. CXVII, 6), id est, non una persona hominis, sed una caro, et una fragilitas generationis humanæ. Et addidit: Bonum est sperare in Domino, quam sperare in homine. Nec hic utique specialem hominem, sed generalem conditionem de signavit. Denique statim subjecit de pluribus: Bonum est confidere in Domino, quam confidere in principibus (lbid., 9). Sed ubi homo dicitur, naturæ interdum, ut supra diximus, communis inter omnes unitas significatur: ubi principes, variarum qua-dam differentia potestatum est. Sed inter homines aut in hominibus unius ali cujus rei unitas est, aut charitatis, aut cupiditatis, aut carnis, aut devotionis et fidei: generalis autem unitas, et quæ in se secundum divinitatis gloriam complecti tur omnia, solius est Patris et Filii et Spiritus sancti. Unde et Dominus cum diversitatem inter se hominum designaret, qui nihil habent inter se quod possit ad unitatem individuæ substantiæ pertinere: In lege vestra, inquit, scriptum est, quod duorum ho minum testimonium verum est. Et cum præmisisset: Duorum hominum testimonium verum est; ubi venit ad suum et Patris testimonium, non dixit: Verum est testimonium nostrum, quia duorum deorum testimonium est; sed: Ego, inquit, sum qui testimonium perhibeo de me ipso, et testimonium per hibet de me, qui misit me, Pater ( Ibid., i8). Supra quoque similiter ait: Et si judico ego, judicium meum verum est, quia solus non sum, sed ego et qui misit me Pater. Itaque et infra ut supra et Pa trem significavit et Filium, nec pluralitatem admis cuit, nec divinæ unitatem substantiæ separavit. Evidens est igitur quia quod unius est sub stantiæ, separari non potest, etiamsi non sit singularitatis, sed unitatis. Singularitatem hanc dico, quæ Græce μονότης dicitur. Singularitas ad personam pertinet, unitas ad naturam. Ea vero quæ diversae substantiæ sunt, non solum unum, sed etiam plura dici solere, licet jam et prophetico claruerit testimonio; expressius tamen ipse Apostolus declaravit dicens: Nam etsi sunt qui dicantur dii, sive in cœlo, sive in terra ( I Cor. viii, 5). Vides igitur quia hi qui ex diversis substantiis sunt, et non ex una veritate naturæ, dii appellantur? Pater autem et Filius, quia unius substantiæ sunt, non duo dii, sed unus Deus: Pater ex quo omnia, et unus Dominus Jesus Christus, per quem omnia. Unus, inquit, Deus Pater, et unus Dominus Jesus; et supra: Unus Deus, non duo dii; et infra: Unus Dominus, et non duo. Pluralitas ergo excluditur, non unitas sequestratur. Sed quemadmodum cum legimus Dominum Jesum, nec Patrem, ut supra diximus (Lib. II, cap 5), a dominationis jure secernimus, quod ei commune cum Filio est; ita cum legimus solum verum Deum Patrem, nec Filium a solius veri Dei jure pos sumus separare, quod ei commune cum Patre est. Aut dicant quid aliud sentiant, quidve arbi trentur, cum legimus: Dominum Deum tuum adorabis, et ipsi soli servies, utrum Christum non adorandum, et Christo non existiment serviendum? Quod si illa quæ adoravit eum Chananæa, impetrare meruit quod poposcit; et Paulus apostolus, qui servum se Christi primo scriptorum suorum præfatione profitetur, apostolus esse meruit, non ab hominibus neque per hominem, sed per Jesum Christum; dicant quid ar bitrentur sequendum, utrum cum Ario malint sibi societatem esse perfidiæ; ut solum et verum Deum Christum negando, ostendant quia nec adorandum eum, nec serviendum ei judicent: an vero consortium malint habere cum Paulo, qui serviendo atque adorando etiam Christum, utique solum verum Deum voce affectuque non diffitebatur, quem pio servitio fatebatur.
But the Arians assert: “If you say that the Son as well as the Father is the only true God, and confess that the Father and the Son are of one substance, you bring in not one God but two gods; for those who are of one substance seem to be not one God but two gods, as we speak of two men or two sheep or more; but a man and a sheep are called neither two men nor two sheep, but one man and one sheep.” This the Arians say, and by this cunning disputation they try to catch the simpler. Yet if we read the divine Scriptures, we shall find that plurality rather falls on things of diverse and distinct substance, that is, heterousia. And we have this expressed in the books of Solomon, in the place where he says: “Three things are impossible to understand, and a fourth I do not know: the tracks of an eagle flying, and the ways of a serpent on a rock, and the paths of a ship sailing, and the ways of a man in his youth.” Certainly the eagle and the ship and the serpent are not of one kind and nature, but of different and distinct substance, and yet they are three. So they understand from the testimonies of the Scriptures that their arguments tell against themselves. So by saying that the substance of the Father and the Son is distinct and their deity different, they themselves certainly assert two gods; but we, when we confess both the Father and the Son, yet assert that they are of one deity, speak not of two gods but of one God. And we prove this from the Lord’s words; for where there are several, there is a difference either of nature or of wills and operations. Indeed, so that they may be refuted by their own testimonies: two men are spoken of because, although they are of one nature by right of birth, yet they differ in time, in thought, in work, and in place; and so one man cannot be spoken of in the sense and number of two, because there is no unity where there is diversity; but God is called one, and the glory and fullness of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit is signified. Indeed so great is the truth of unity that, even when only the nature of human generation or flesh is signified, one man is spoken of out of many, as you have it: “The Lord is my helper; I will not fear what man can do to me”; that is, not one person of a man, but one flesh and one frailty of human generation. And he added: “It is better to hope in the Lord than to hope in man.” Here too he certainly designated not a particular man but the general condition. Indeed he immediately added about many: “It is better to trust in the Lord than to trust in princes.” But where “man” is said, sometimes, as we said above, the unity of nature common to all is signified; where “princes,” there is a certain difference of various powers. But between men, or in men, there is a unity of some one thing, whether of love, or of desire, or of flesh, or of devotion and faith; but the general unity, which embraces all things in itself according to the glory of divinity, belongs to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit alone. Hence the Lord too, when he was marking the diversity of men among themselves, who have nothing between them that could belong to the unity of an undivided substance, said: “In your law it is written that the testimony of two men is true.” And having said first, “The testimony of two men is true,” when he came to his own testimony and the Father’s, he did not say, “Our testimony is true, because it is the testimony of two gods,” but: “I,” he says, “am the one who bears witness to myself, and the Father who sent me bears witness to me.” Above too he likewise says: “And if I judge, my judgment is true, because I am not alone, but I and the Father who sent me.” So both below and above he signified both the Father and the Son, and neither mixed in plurality nor separated the unity of the divine substance. It is evident, then, that what is of one substance cannot be separated, even if it is a matter not of singularity but of unity. I call singularity what in Greek is called monotēs. Singularity belongs to person, unity to nature. But that things of diverse substance are usually called not only one but also many, although it has already been made clear by the prophetic testimony, the Apostle himself declared more expressly, saying: “For even if there are those called gods, whether in heaven or on earth.” You see, then, that those who are of diverse substances, and not of the one truth of nature, are called gods. But the Father and the Son, because they are of one substance, are not two gods but one God: the Father, from whom are all things, and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things. “One,” he says, “God the Father, and one Lord Jesus”; and above: “one God,” not two gods; and below: “one Lord,” and not two. Plurality, then, is excluded; unity is not divided. But just as, when we read “Lord Jesus,” we do not separate the Father, as we said above, from the right of lordship, which he has in common with the Son, so, when we read that the Father is the only true God, we cannot separate the Son from the right of the only true God, which he has in common with the Father. Or let them say what else they think or judge when we read: “You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve”: do they think that Christ is not to be worshiped and that Christ is not to be served? But if that Canaanite woman who worshiped him deserved to obtain what she asked, and the apostle Paul, who in the preface of his first writings professes himself the servant of Christ, deserved to be an apostle “not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ,” let them say what they think they should follow: whether they prefer to share in faithlessness with Arius, so that by denying that Christ is the only and true God they show that they judge that he is neither to be worshiped nor to be served; or whether they prefer to share with Paul, who, by serving and worshiping Christ, certainly did not deny in word or in heart that he was the only true God, whom he confessed by his devout service.
Prov 30:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Prov 30:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 118:6 (117:6 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 118:8 (117:8 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 118:9 (117:9 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:17 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:18 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:16 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 8:5 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 8:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Deut 6:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 4:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:25 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 1:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Gal 1:1 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Ambrose answers the Arian charge that one substance means two gods: Scripture uses plurality for things of different substance, while Father and Son, being of one substance, are one God, to be served and worshiped together.
- The digital text begins this chapter with the end of Migne’s chapter summary, removed by a logged correction. Heterousia and monotēs (“singularity”) are the Greek terms Ambrose uses. Quotations and allusions: Prov 30:18–19; Ps 118:6, 8–9 (LXX 117:6, 8–9); John 8:17–18; John 8:16; 1 Cor 8:5–6; Deut 6:13 (Matt 4:10); Matt 15:25; Rom 1:1; Gal 1:1.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips and column number; end of Migne's chapter summary; inline footnote letter or column number of the digitization; stray mark; stray marks): singulariter homo dicantar, ubi naturæ unitas indicatur. Solam in his naturam unam esse; al omnimodam in per sonis divinis unitatem: a Palre igitur nou separandum Filium; maxime cum ei debitam esse adorationem negare non audeant. → ; asserunt Arian.: → asserunt Ariani:; unius sobstantiæ → unius substantiæ; non unos Deus → non unus Deus; Ariani dicunt. et hac → Ariani dicunt, et hac; divixas → divinas; caderc → cadere; quod Mon cognosco → quod non cognosco; semitas natis navigantis, et via. viri → semitas navis navigantis, et vias viri; navix et serpens unius non suut → navis et serpens unius non sunt; deitatem I duos → deitatem, duos; con filemur → confitemur; aut. naturæ → aut naturæ; utsuis sibi → ut suis sibi; unius naturae sim jure → unius naturæ sint jure; qnia unitas → quia unitas; Deniqne → Denique; caruis Significa tur → carnis significatur; hahes: Dominus mibi adjutor, uon timebo → habes: Dominus mihi adjutor, non timebo; Bonum ese sperare in Domino, quam sperare ill homine → Bonum est sperare in Domino, quam sperare in homine; COnfidere in Domino, quam confidere ill principi bus → confidere in Domino, quam confidere in principibus; Sed uhi homo dicitur, naturae inter dum, tit supra → Sed ubi homo dicitur, naturæ interdum, ut supra; Odei → fidei; secondum → secundum; sotiusest → solius est; interse → inter se; testimonium verum eat; ubi → testimonium verum est; ubi; nOStrum → nostrum; judicium meum l'erum esI, quia solus non lum → judicium meum verum est, quia solus non sum; sitsingu laritatis → sit singularitatis; dico. quæ Græce μονοτἡςdicitur → dico, quæ Græce μονότης dicitur; onins ad naturam → unitas ad naturam; solere, <= licet → solere, licet; sive in cœto, sivein terra ( i Cor.vtn, 5) → sive in cœlo, sive in terra ( I Cor. viii, 5); nOh ex unit veritate → non ex una veritate; uhius substantiæ sunt, nOh duo dii, sed Unus Deu,. → unius substantiæ sunt, non duo dii, sed unus Deus:; Unu. Dominus Jesus Christus, pet quem → unus Dominus Jesus Christus, per quem; Domin.- Jesus → Dominus Jesus; non duo dit → non duo dii; exluditur, non unitas seque siratur → excluditur, non unitas sequestratur; bominum Jesum → Dominum Jesum; commund 560 cum FiliO → commune cum Filio; Filinm → Filium; AHt dicant → Aut dicant; tum!egimit<: Dominum Deum luam ado rabis → cum legimus: Dominum Deum tuum adorabis; Chri stum nen adorandum → Christum non adorandum; ser. viendum → serviendum; q(t! servum se Christi prim. scriptorum → qui servum se Christi primo scriptorum; esse terruit → esse meruit; se'tuendum → sequendum; eunt Ario → cum Ario; Chritum negaudo → Christum negando; nee adorandum → nec adorandum; sertiendum 6t judicent: an veto consor tiummalint habere cam Paulo → serviendum ei judicent: an vero consortium malint habere cum Paulo; qnem pio → quem pio; Patris 559 → Patris.
Topics: Trinity, Christology
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Fid. 5.3 (PL 16:622b–623c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ambrose-fide/5-3/#p-5-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 16 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 10 (de Romestin, 1896); differences checked against the Latin.
5.4PL 16:623c
Quod si quis dicat quoniam Deum Patrem adorat et Filius, quia scriptum est: Vos adoratis quod nescitis, nos adoramus quod scimus; consideret quando, et apud quem, et cujus suscepto loquatur affectu. Denique et in superioribus non immerito præmissum est, quia Jesus fatigatus ex itinere sedebat, et a Samaritana bibere postulabat; quia secundum carnem hominis loquebatur: nam secundum divinitatem nec fatigari poterat, nec sitire. Deinde cum Samaritana quasi Judæum appel laret, et prophetam putaret; quasi Judæus qui spiritaliter mysteria Legis doceret, respondit: Vos ado ratis quod nescitis, nos adoramus quod scimus. Nos, inquit, hoc est, se hominibus copulavit. Quomodo autem nisi secundum carnem hominibus copulatur? Et ut ostenderet quia secundum incarnationem re sponderat, addidit: Quia salus ex Judæis est (Ibid. 22). Sed statim post hoc sequestravit hominis affectum, dicens: Veniet hora, et nunc est, quando veri adoratores adorabunt Patrem. Non dixit: Adorabimus. Quod utique dixisset, si consortium nostri subiret obsequii. Verum cum legerimus quod Maria adoravit eum, intelligere debemus quod non potest per eamdem naturam et adorare quasi servus, et adorari quasi Dommus: sed potius quia ut homo inter homines adorare dicitur, et quasi Dominus a famulis adoratur. Multa ergo secundum incarnationis legimus et credimus sacramentum, sed in ipsa naturæ humanæ affectione majestatem licet spectare divi nam. Fatigatur et itinere Jesus, ut reficiat fatigatos: petit bibere, sitientibus potum spiritalem daturus: esurit, cibum salutis esurientibus traditurus: moritur, vivificaturus: sepelitur, resurrecturus: tremulo pendet in ligno, confirmaturus trementes: cælum caligine obducit, ut illuminet: terras tremefacit, ut solidet: maria conturbat, ut mitiget: reserat tumulos mortuorum, ut ostendat domicilia esse vivorum: creatur ex Virgine, ut ex Deo natus esse credatur: nescire se simulat, ut scire faciat nescientes: adorare quasi Judæus dicitur, ut quasi verus Deus Filius adoretur.
But if anyone says that the Son too worships God the Father, because it is written, “You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know,” let him consider when, to whom, and with what assumed affection he speaks. Indeed, it was not without reason set down just before that Jesus, wearied from the journey, was sitting and was asking the Samaritan woman for a drink; for he was speaking according to man’s flesh, since according to his divinity he could neither be wearied nor thirst. Then, when the Samaritan woman called him a Jew and thought him a prophet, he answered as a Jew who would teach the mysteries of the Law spiritually: “You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know.” “We,” he says; that is, he joined himself with men. And how is he joined with men except according to the flesh? And to show that he had answered according to the incarnation, he added: “For salvation is from the Jews.” But immediately after this he set aside the affection of a man, saying: “The hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father.” He did not say, “We will worship,” which he would certainly have said if he were sharing our service. But when we read that Mary worshiped him, we ought to understand that he cannot by the same nature both worship as a servant and be worshiped as Lord; but rather that as man among men he is said to worship, and as Lord he is worshiped by his servants. Many things, then, we read and believe according to the mystery of the incarnation, but in the very affections of human nature we may behold the divine majesty. Jesus is wearied by the journey, so as to refresh the weary; he asks to drink, being about to give spiritual drink to the thirsty; he hungers, being about to hand on the food of salvation to the hungry; he dies, to give life; he is buried, to rise again; he hangs on the trembling tree, to strengthen the trembling; he covers heaven with darkness, to give light; he makes the earth quake, to make it firm; he troubles the seas, to calm them; he opens the tombs of the dead, to show that they are dwellings of the living; he is created from the Virgin, so that he may be believed to have been born of God; he feigns ignorance, to make the ignorant know; he is said to worship as a Jew, so that as the Son he may be worshiped as true God.
John 4:22 (quotation, high confidence) · John 4:6 (allusion, high confidence) · John 4:7 (allusion, high confidence) · John 4:9 (allusion, high confidence) · John 4:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 28:9 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 27:45 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 27:51 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 27:52 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Ambrose explains John 4:22 (“we worship what we know”) as Christ speaking as a Jew according to his humanity, and lists how his human weaknesses served divine purposes.
- The digital text begins this chapter with the end of Migne’s chapter summary and his note of another chapter division, removed by a logged correction. Quotations and allusions: John 4:22; John 4:6–7, 9, 19; John 4:23; Matt 28:9 (Mary worshiping the risen Lord); Matt 27:45, 51–52.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip and column number; OCR slips, paragraph number and inline footnote letter; end of Migne's chapter summary and his note of another chapter division; inline footnote letter or column number of the digitization): tamen addita esse divinitatis testimonia, quod in alii, elia,. Christi operibus factum videmus. [Alias cap. II.] → ; Deam Patrem → Deum Patrem; Vo< adoratis quod nescilis → Vos adoratis quod nescitis; noh immerito præ missum esf, quia Jesus fatigatus ex itineresedebat → non immerito præmissum est, quia Jesus fatigatus ex itinere sedebat; loquebafur: n?n< secundum divini- (atem nec fatigari poterat, hec sitire → loquebatur: nam secundum divinitatem nec fatigari poterat, nec sitire; Samaritaha → Samaritana; pntafet → putaret; nos odoramus → nos adoramus; inqu!t → inquit; copulatur! Et → copulatur? Et; Quia solus ex Judœis est (Ibid. M). Si. Sed statim past hoc seq'testravh a hominis → Quia salus ex Judæis est (Ibid. 22). Sed statim post hoc sequestravit hominis; nunc tit, quando veri adora'ore. odorabunt → nunc est, quando veri adoratores adorabunt; consor tiumnostri → consortium nostri; Vermn cam legerimus quod Mari;. adoravit e<t<n → Verum cum legerimus quod Maria adoravit eum; non poest per → non potest per; bDominus → Dominus; in ips. 561 naturæ → in ipsa naturæ; Heet spectare → licet spectare; rehciat → reficiat; pOlum spiritalem → potum spiritalem; traditurIS: mort tur → traditurus: moritur; resurrectorus → resurrecturus; illuminet:tetras tremefacit, ut solidet:marta → illuminet: terras tremefacit, ut solidet: maria; creactur → creatur; fatigatos: c → fatigatos:.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Fid. 5.4 (PL 16:623c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ambrose-fide/5-3/#p-5-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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5.5PL 16:623c–625a
Quomodo, inquiunt, Filius Dei solus verus Deus potest esse similis Patri, cum ipse dixerit filiis Zebedæi: Calicem quidem meum bibetis, sedere autem ad dexteram meam vel ad sinistram non est meum dare vobis, sed quibus paratum est a Patre meo? Hoc igitur vestrum divinae, ut vultis, inæqualitatis est argumentum; cum in eo magis venerati Domini clementiam, adorare gratiam deberetis: si tamen virtutis atque sapientiæ Dei profunda secreta possetis advertere. Considerate enim quæ cum filiis et pro filiis petat. Mater est utique, cui pro filiorum honore sollicitæ immoderatior quidem, sed tamen ignoscenda mensura votorum est. Atque mater ætate longæva, studio religiosa, solatiis destituta: quæ tunc temporis quando vel juvanda vel alenda foret validæ prolis auxilio, abesse sibi liberos patiebatur, et voluptati suæ mercedem sequentium Christum praetulerat filiorum: qui prima voce vocati a Domino, ut legimus (Matth. tv,22), relictis retibus et patre, secuti sunt eum. Hæc igitur studio maternæ sedulitatis indulgentior, obsecrabat Salvatorem, dicens: Dic ut sedeant hi duo filii mei, unus ad dexteram tuam, et alter ad sinistram in regno tuo. Etsi error, pietatis tamen error est; nesciunt enim ma terna viscera patientiam: etsi voti avara, tamen veniabilis cupiditas, quæ non pecuniæ est avida, sed gratiæ: nec inverecunda petitio, quae non sibi, sed liberis consulebat. Matrem considerate, matrem cogitate. Sed nihil mirum si vilis vobis videtur circa filios affectus parentum, qui etiam omnipo tentis Patris vilem putatis esse circa unigenitum Filium charitatem. Dominus cœli atque terrarum verecundabatur (ut secundum assumptionem carnis et virtutes animæ loquar), verecundabatur, inquam, et ut ipsius verbo utar, confundebatur matri pro filiis postulanti etiam suæ sedis consortium denegare: vos æterni Dei Filium proprium interdum pro ministerio stare contenditis, interdum famulatorium, hoc est, non ex majestatis unitate, sed ex Patris præ ceptione vultis ejus esse consessum; et negatis hoc Deo vero Dei Filio, quod ille hominibus aspere noluit denegare. Considerabat enim matris dilectionem, quæ filiorum mercede grandævam solabatur senectam, et desideriis licet fessa maternis, charissimorum pigno rum tolerabat absentiam. Considerate etiam feminam, hoc est, sexum fragiliorem, quem Dominus propria nondum confirmaverat passione. Considerate, inquam, Evae illius primæ mulieris hæredem transfusa in omnes immoderatæ cupiditatis successione labentem, quam Do minus adhuc proprio sanguine non redemerat, non dum inolitam affectibus omnium immodici contra fas honoris appetentiam suo cruore diluerat. Hæredita. rio igitur mulier delinquebat errore. Et quid mirum si mater pro filiorum suorum, quod est tolerabilius quam pro se; quando etiam apostoli ipsi inter se, sicut legimus, de sui prælatione certabant? Non debuit igitur medicus omnium destitutam matrem, et ægram adhuc mentem pudoris convicio sauciare; ne postulato sibi superbius denegato, quasi immoderatæ petitionis damnata mœreret. Denique Dominus qui honorandam sciret esse pietatem, non mulieri, sed filiis ejus respondit dicens: Potestis bibere calicem, quem ego bibiturus sum? Dicentibus autem illis: Possumus; ait illis Jesus: Calicem quidem meum bibetis; sedere autem ad dexte ram meam vel ad sinistram non est meum dare vobis, sed quibus paratum est a Patre meo. Quam patiens et clemens Dominus, quam alta sapientia et bona charitas! Volens enim ostendere quia non perfunctoriam rem aliquam discipuli postularent, sed eam quam impetrare non possent, f prærogativam ejus paternae honorificentiæ reserva vit: non metuens, ne quid juri proprio derogaret, qui non rapinam arbitratus est esse se æqualem Deo; simul diligens discipulos, quia, sicut habes, usque in finem dilexit eos (Joan. xiii, 1), noluit iis quos diligeret, videri quod peterent denegasse: sanctus et bonus Dominus, qui mallet aliquid dissimulare de jure, quam de charitate deponere: Charitas enim patiens est, benigna est, non æmulatur, non inflatur, non quærit quæ sua sunt I Cor. XIII, 4). Denique ut agnoscatis non infirmitatis, sed indulgentiae esse, quia dixit: Non est meum dare vobis; ubi sine matre filii Zebedæi rogant, nihil de Patre dixit; sic enim habes: Non est meum dare vobis, sed quibus paratum est ( Marc. X, 40). Ita Marcus evangelista posuit. Ubi vero mater pro filiis rogat, hoc est, secundum Matthæum: Non est, inquit, meum dare vobis, sed quibus paratum est a Patre meo, hic addidit: A Patre meo; quia majorem indulgentiam maternus po scebat affectus. Quod si putant, dicendo: Quibus paratum est a Patre meo, aut Patri plus tribuit, aut sibi aliquid derogavit; dicant utrum et illic putent Patri aliquid derogatum, quia dixit in Evangelio Filius de Patre: Pater non judicat quemquam. Quod si sacrilegum putamus credere quia Pater ita judicium detulit Filio; ut ipse non habeat; habet enim; nec potest amittere quod habet natu raliter divina majestas: sacrilegum itaque æstimare debemus quia non potest Filius dare quidquid aut homines mereri possunt, aut quævis accipere crea tura; præsertim cum ipse dixerit: Ego ad Patrem vado, et quodcumque ab eo petieritis in nomine meo, hoc faciam ( Joan. XIV, 12, i5). Si enim quod Pater dare potest, Filius non potest, mentita est ergo veritas, et non potest facere quidquid in no mine ejus Pater fuerit obsecratus. Nec enim ideo dixit: Quibus paratum est a Patre meo, ut tantum modo a Patre poscatur: nam omnia quaecumque a Patre fuerint postulata, se donare memoravit. De nique non dixit: Quodcumque a me petieritis, hoc faciam; sed: Quodcumque ab eo petieritis in nomine meo, hoc faciam.
“How,” they say, “can the Son of God, the only true God, be like the Father, when he himself said to the sons of Zebedee: You will drink my cup, but to sit at my right hand or at my left is not mine to give you, but it is for those for whom it is prepared by my Father?” This, then, is your argument, as you will have it, for divine inequality; whereas in it you ought rather to venerate the Lord’s clemency and adore his grace, if indeed you could perceive the deep secrets of the power and wisdom of God. For consider who it is that asks, with her sons and for her sons. She is certainly a mother, anxious for her sons’ honor, and the measure of her prayers is immoderate indeed, but pardonable. And she is a mother of advanced age, devout in zeal, bereft of comforts; who, at the time when she should have been helped or supported by the aid of strong offspring, let her children be away from her, and had preferred to her own pleasure the reward of her sons in following Christ; for they, called by the Lord at his first word, as we read, left their nets and their father and followed him. She, then, more indulgent from the zeal of a mother’s care, besought the Savior, saying: “Say that these my two sons may sit, one at your right hand and the other at your left, in your kingdom.” Though it is an error, it is an error of love; for a mother’s heart does not know patience. Though greedy in her prayer, hers was a pardonable desire, eager not for money but for grace; nor was it a shameless request, which looked not to herself but to her children. Consider the mother; think of the mother. But no wonder if the affection of parents for their sons seems base to you, who think even the love of the almighty Father for his only-begotten Son base. The Lord of heaven and earth was ashamed (to speak according to the flesh he assumed and the qualities of a soul), was ashamed, I say, and, to use his own word, was abashed to deny a mother asking for her sons even a share in his seat; you contend that the eternal God’s own Son sometimes stands to serve, sometimes sits as an attendant; that is, you want his session to come not from the unity of majesty but from the Father’s command; and you deny to the true God, the Son of God, what he would not harshly deny to men. For he considered the mother’s love, who consoled her advanced old age with the reward of her sons and, though worn out by a mother’s longings, endured the absence of her dearest children. Consider also the woman, that is, the frailer sex, which the Lord had not yet strengthened by his own passion. Consider, I say, the heir of that first woman Eve, slipping through the succession of immoderate desire poured into all, whom the Lord had not yet redeemed with his own blood, from whose affections he had not yet washed away with his blood the inbred and unlawful appetite for immoderate honor. The woman, then, was sinning by an inherited error. And what wonder if a mother asked for her sons, which is more tolerable than asking for herself, when even the apostles themselves, as we read, were disputing among themselves about precedence? The physician of all, then, ought not to wound a bereft mother, a mind still sick, with the reproach of shame, lest, her request haughtily refused, she should grieve as one condemned for an immoderate petition. Indeed the Lord, who knew that love was to be honored, answered not the woman but her sons, saying: “Can you drink the cup which I am about to drink?” And when they said, “We can,” Jesus said to them: “You will drink my cup; but to sit at my right hand or at my left is not mine to give you, but it is for those for whom it is prepared by my Father.” How patient and merciful is the Lord, how deep his wisdom and how good his love! For, wishing to show that the disciples were asking for no trivial thing, but for something they could not obtain, he reserved its prerogative for the Father’s honor; not fearing to take anything from his own right, since he did not think it robbery to be equal with God; at the same time loving his disciples, since, as you have it, “he loved them to the end,” he did not want to seem to have refused those he loved what they asked; a holy and good Lord, who would rather pass over something of his right than lay aside anything of love; “for love is patient, is kind, does not envy, is not puffed up, does not seek its own.” Indeed, so that you may recognize that it was from indulgence, not from weakness, that he said, “It is not mine to give you”: where the sons of Zebedee ask without their mother, he said nothing of the Father; for you have it thus: “It is not mine to give you, but it is for those for whom it is prepared.” So Mark the evangelist set it down. But where the mother asks for her sons, that is, according to Matthew, “It is not mine,” he says, “to give you, but it is for those for whom it is prepared by my Father”; here he added “by my Father,” because a mother’s affection asked for greater indulgence. But if they think that by saying “for whom it is prepared by my Father” he either gave more to the Father or took something from himself, let them say whether they think that something was taken from the Father there too, because the Son said of the Father in the Gospel, “The Father judges no one.” But if we think it sacrilege to believe that the Father so handed over judgment to the Son as not to have it himself (for he has it, and the divine majesty cannot lose what it has by nature), so we ought to think it sacrilege to suppose that the Son cannot give whatever men can deserve or any creature can receive; especially since he himself said: “I go to the Father, and whatever you ask of him in my name, I will do.” For if the Son cannot do what the Father can give, then the Truth lied, and he cannot do whatever the Father has been asked in his name. For he did not say, “for those for whom it is prepared by my Father,” so that it should be asked of the Father only; for he declared that he gives all things that are asked of the Father. Indeed he did not say, “Whatever you ask of me, I will do,” but, “Whatever you ask of him in my name, I will do.”
Matt 20:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 20:20 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 4:22 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 20:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 22:24 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 20:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · John 13:1 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 13:4 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 13:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Mark 10:40 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:22 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:12 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:13 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Ambrose explains Christ’s answer to the mother of James and John (Matt 20:23) as a gentle refusal out of love for a devoted mother, not as a sign that the Son lacks the Father’s power to give.
- The digital text begins this chapter with Migne’s chapter summary, removed by a logged correction. Quotations and allusions: Matt 20:20–23; Matt 4:21–22; Luke 22:24; Phil 2:6; John 13:1; 1 Cor 13:4–5; Mark 10:40; John 5:22; John 14:12–13. Ambrose ascribes the woman’s ambition to the inherited weakness of Eve’s descendants before Christ’s redemption; his view, translated as written.
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- Digital text corrected (Migne's chapter summary; OCR slip; OCR slip and inline footnote letter; OCR slips, column and paragraph numbers; inline footnote letter; inline footnote letter and OCR slips; inline footnote letter or column number of the digitization; paragraph number; stray mark; stray marks): Moluisse igitur Dominum petitio nis illius concessionem ad Patrem remitter e, quam eamdem impossibilem pronuntiare: nec tamen Christo incommodare lUum responsum, tum ex ipsis ejusdene verbis, tum ex aliorum locorum comparatione ostenditur. → ; solus vens Dem → solus verus Deus; sedera autem → sedere autem; Md quibus paratum es, a Patre mee? → sed quibus paratum est a Patre meo?; ut vuhis. <' inæqualitatis → ut vultis, inæqualitatis; cum i.. co magis → cum in eo magis; s! tamen → si tamen; Considerate enim < quæ cum liliis → Considerate enim quæ cum filiis; Malet est utique, eui → Mater est utique, cui; quideM, sed tamen ignOscen da → quidem, sed tamen ignoscenda; solatia destituta → solatiis destituta; a et volu ptati suae → et voluptati suæ; secuti sunt enm → secuti sunt eum; indul. gentior → indulgentior; Die at Mdean< hi duo → Dic ut sedeant hi duo; dexteram tuane, eI aller → dexteram tuam, et alter; *' etsi voti → etsi voti; qnse non → quæ non; considfrate → considerate; uihil mirum → nihil mirum; Ft- Hum charitatem. Dominu9 cœli atqne tetrarum vere cundabatnr (nt secuudutn assumptionem earnis et virtutes animæ toquar) → Filium charitatem. Dominus cœli atque terrarum verecundabatur (ut secundum assumptionem carnis et virtutes animæ loquar); pro fillis → pro filiis; co'<sort!um → consortium; c interdum famulatorium, boc est, hon ex → interdum famulatorium, hoc est, non ex; p'ilio → Filio; asperte → aspere; grandæam → grandævam; absentiatn → absentiam; Considerate eUam → Considerate etiam; conOr mavetat → confirmaverat; haTedem transfusa In omnes immo deratae → hæredem transfusa in omnes immoderatæ; adhoc proprio → adhuc proprio; appetentiant SilO cruore d!!(<erat → appetentiam suo cruore diluerat; 6<. Et quid mirum → Et quid mirum; suorum, d quod est toleratabilius quam pro Re → suorum, quod est tolerabilius quam pro se; tegimus → legimus; medleus → medicus; sauciate → sauciare; denegate → denegato; moereret → mœreret; Dominus < qui → Dominus qui; mulleri, aed filiis → mulieri, sed filiis; ait illi. Jesus → ait illis Jesus; bibetis;.edere → bibetis; sedere; non eat meum dare vobis, aed quibus paratum eat a Patre meo. Quam → non est meum dare vobis, sed quibus paratum est a Patre meo. Quam; alia sapientia → alta sapientia; perfunOoriam → perfunctoriam; pnstularent → postularent; qnam impetrare → quam impetrare; derogarct → derogaret; arbitratus eat eae at æqualem → arbitratus est esse se æqualem; (Joan. xm, 1), notuit → (Joan. xiii, 1), noluit; dissi mutare → dissimulare; Chari laB enim pa!t<n< eat → Charitas enim patiens est; noM inflatur → non inflatur; EI Cor. XIII, 4). 563 65. Deniqu6 → I Cor. XIII, 4). Denique; Non eat meum dare vobis; ubi sine manre → Non est meum dare vobis; ubi sine matre; Non tit meum → Non est meum; paratum es. ( Matth. X, 40). Ita Malcus → paratum est ( Marc. X, 40). Ita Marcus; pre Aliis → pro filiis; hoc est. secundum → hoc est, secundum; paratum est o Patre meo → paratum est a Patre meo; majoreht → majorem; Quibus potum est a Patre meo, quia, aut, Patri plus → Quibus paratum est a Patre meo, aut Patri plus; sib! aliquid → sibi aliquid; in. Evangelio → in Evangelio; quemquaM. Quod si g sacrilegum → quemquam. Quod si sacrilegum; nee potest → nec potest; ItUque → itaque; ant homines → aut homines; quaevie → quævis; praeserHm cum iPse → præsertim cum ipse; nomine mea → nomine meo; Filius non, potest → Filius non potest; qu:d')uid → quidquid; paratum eat a Patre meo, ut tantum → paratum est a Patre meo, ut tantum; Pa're fuerim → Patre fuerint; petieritis, a hoc faciam → petieritis, hoc faciam; petieritis ill nomine → petieritis in nomine; filios 562 → filios.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Fid. 5.5 (PL 16:623c–625a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ambrose-fide/5-3/#p-5-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 16 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 10 (de Romestin, 1896); differences checked against the Latin.
5.6PL 16:625a–626c
Quæro nunc utrum possibile aliquid humanæ conditioni, aut alicui creaturae, an impossibile putent a Zebedæi conjuge et filiis postulatum? Si possibile, quomodo ad sinistram suam vel ad dexteram impertiendæ apostolis sedis non habuit potestatem, qui omnia fecit esse, quae non erant? Aut quomodo non poterat judicare de meritis ho minum, cui Pater dedit omne judicium? Notum est quemadmodum dederit: nam quomodo quasi indigens accepit Filius, qui omnia creavit ex nihilo? Quorum igitur naturas fecerat, eorum judicium non habebat? Dedit autem Pater Filio omne judicium; Ut omnes, inquit, honorificent Filium, sicut honorificant Patrem ( Ibid., 23). Non igitur potentia Filii, sed cognitio nostra proficit: neque aliquid ad substantiam ejus ac cedit, sed ad nostram utilitatem, quod a nobis cogno scitur; ut cognoscendo Dei Filium, vitam habeamus æternam ( Joan. XVII, 3). Cum autem in cognitione Filii Dei honor illius, noster autem non illius sit profectus, si quis putat quia Dei virtus illo honore cumulatur, necesse est etiam Deum Patrem credat posse cumulari; quia et ipse per cognitionem nostram clarificatur sicut Fi lius, juxta quod scriptum est, dicente Filio: Ego te clarificavi super terram ( Ibid., 4). Ergo si possi bile aliquid erat quod petebatur, in potestate utique Filii fuit. Sed tamen ostendant, si possibile putant, qui de hominibus aut caeteris creaturis, aut ad dexteram, aut ad sinistram Do sedeat; Pater enim dicit Filio: Sede ad dexteram meam (Psal. C!X, 1). Ita que si quis ad dexteram Filio sedet, inter ipsum uti que et Patrem, ut humano usu loquamur, Filius medius reperitur. Non ergo possibile homini aliquid petebatur, sed noluit dicere quod homines sedere secum non possint; si quidem divinam suam gloriam celari, priusquam resurgeret, non divulgari cupiebat. Nam et supra cum inter famulos suos Moysen et Eliam ap paruisset in gloria, monuerat discipulos, ne cui di cerent, quod vidissent ( MolA. xvn, 9). Itaque si possibile non erat hominibus vel creaturis cæteris hoc mereri, non debet videri Filius minus posse, quia non dedit apostolis quod nec Pater hominibus vel creaturis cæteris dedit. Aut dicant cui horum dederit Pater. Non utique angelis, de quibus Scriptura dicit quia omnes angeli stabant in circuitu sedis ( Apoc. vn, 11 ). Denique Gabriel se stare dixit, sicut habes: Ego sum Gabriel, qui asto ante Dominum ( Luc. I, i9 ). Non ergo angelis, non senioribus qui adorant sedentem; illi enim non super sedem majestatis sedent: sed, ut dixit Scriptura, in circuitu sedis; sedes enim aliæ viginti et quatuor sunt, ut habes in Apocalypsi Joannis: Et supra sedem viginti quatuor seniores sedentes ( Apoc. IV, 4 ). In Evangelio quoque ipse Dominus dicit: Cum sederit Filius hominis in sede majestatis suæ, sedebitis et ipsi super sedes duo decim, judicantes duodecim tribus Israel ( Matth. x<x, 28 ). Non ergo sedis suae dixit apostolis dari posse consortium, sed alias illas sedes esse duodecim; quas tamen non pro corporali consessu, sed pro successu spiritalis gratiæ æstimare debemus. Denique in libro Regnorum dixit Michæas propheta: Vidi Dominum Deum Israel sedentem super thronum suum, et omnis militia cœli stabat circa eum, ad dexteram ejus et ad sinistram ( III Reg. XXII. i9 ). Quomodo igitur stantibus angelis ad dexteram vel ad sinistram Domini Dei, stante omni militia cœlesti, sedebunt homines ad dexteram Dei, vel ad sinistram, quibus pro virtutis præmio angelorum similitudo promittitur, sicut Dominus dicit: Erunt sicut angeli in cælo (Matth. xxu, 30)? Sicut angeli, dicit, non plus quam angeli. Si ergo nihil plus dedit Pater quam Filius, nihil utique minus dedit Filius quam Pater: nihil igitur minus Filius potest quam Pater. Ponite tamen possibile impetratu hominibus quod poscebatur, quid est quod ait: Sedere autem ad dexteram meam vel ad sinistram non est meum dare vobis? Quid est meum? Su pra dixit: Calicem quidem meum bibetis; infra posuit: Non est meum dare vobis; et supra meum, et infra meum dixit, nec immutavit. Ergo superior docent propter quid dixerit meum. Rogatus enim a muliere quasi homo, ut ad dexteram vel ad sinistram suam filios ejus sedere pateretur; quia illa quasi hominem rogaverat, et Dominus quasi tantummodo homo de sua passione respondit: Potestis bibere calicem, quem ego bibi turus sum ( Ibid., )? Itaque quia secundum carnem de passione sui corporisloquebatur, demonstrare voluit quod secundum carnem quidem subeundae passionis nobis exemplum ac similitudinem derelinqueret, secun dum humanam autem conditionem non sedis supernæ consortia donaret. Hoc est enim quod dixit: Non est meum; sicut alibi: Mea doctrina non est mea (Joan. vn, <6 ); Non est enim, inquit, secundum carnem mea: quia quæ divina sunt, non sunt carnis eloquia. Indulgentiam autem suam circa discipulos quos diligeret, quam expresse revelavit, præmit tens: Calicem quidem meum bibetis? Etenim quia non debebat id dare quod petierant, aliud proposuit; ut prius commemoraret quid iis tribueret, quam quid negaret: quo magis aequitatem sibi petitionis, quam studium Dominicæ liberalitatis intelligerent defuisse. Calicem quidem, inquit, meum bibetis, hoc est, passionem quidem quæ carnis meæ est, non negabo; quod enim humanae assumptionis habeo, potestis imitari: donavi vobis victoriam passionis, hæreditatem crucis: Sedere autem ad dexteram meam, vel ad sinistram, non est meum dare vobis. Non dixit: Non est meum dare, sed: Non est meum dare vobis, hoc est, non sibi potestatem deesse as serens, sed meritum creaturis. Accipe aliter: Non est meum dare vobis. Quod est, non ut meum, qui veni humilitatem docere: non est meum, qui veni non ministrari, sed ministrare: non est meum, qui justitiam servo, non gratiam. Denique ad Patrem referens, addidit: Quibus paratum est; ut ostenderet Patrem quoque non petitionibus deferre solere, sed meritis, quia Deus personarum acceptor non est. Unde et Apostolus ait: Quos præscivit, et prædestinavit (Rom. vtH, 29 ); non enim ante praedestinavit, quam praesciret: sed quorum merita praescivit, eorum praemia praedestinavit. Jure igitur reprehenditur mulier, quæ et im possibilia et speciali quodam privilegio ab eo Domino postulavit, qui ea quæ sanctis judicavit esse donanda, non duobus apostolis, sed omnibus discipulis, etiam sine cujusquam precatione, voluntaria sui largitate contulerit, sicut scriptum est: Duodecim vos sedebitis super sedes, judicantes duodecim tribus Israel. Ergo etiamsi possibile putemus postu latum fuisse, calumniæ locus non est; tamen cum legerim Seraphim stare ( Esai. vi, 2), quomodo possum quod homines ad dexteram vel ad sinistram Filio Dei sedeant, arbitrari? Supra Cherubim Do minus sedet, sicut habes: Qui sedes super Cherubim, appare ( Psal. LXXIX, 2); quomodo apostoli super Cherubim sedebunt? Et hoc tamen colligo non ex meo ingenio, sed ex Dominicæ vocis oraculo; ipse enim Dominus in posterioribus apostolos commendans Patri, ait: Pater, quos dedisti mihi, volo ut ubi ego sum, et illi sint mecum ( Joan. XVII, 24 ). Utique si judicasset quia divinam sedem Pater hominibus daret, dixisset: Volo ut ubi ego sedeo, et illi sedeant mecum; Sed volo, inquit, ut sint mecum, non ut sedeant me cum; et ubi ego, non quomodo ego. Deinde sequitur: Ut videant claritatem meam. Nec hic dixit: Ut habeam claritatem meam, sed ut videant; servus enim videt, Dominus possidet; sicut et David docuit dicens: Ut videam voluptatem Domini. Et ipse Dominus in Evan gelio revelavit asserens: Beati mundi corde, ipsi enim Deum videbunt. Videbunt,inquit, non super Cherubim cum Deo sedebunt. Desinant ergo viliora secundum divinitatem æstimare de Dei Filio, ne viliora quoque de Patre æstiment. Qui enim male crediderit de Filio, non potest bene sentire de Patre: qui male credi derit de Spiritu, non potest bene sentire de Filio. Ubi enim una dignitas, una gloria, una charitas, una majestas est; in commune derogatur, quidquid in aliquo putaveris derogandum: jam enim non erit plenitudo quam discernas et dividas in aliquas por tiones.
I ask now whether they think that what was asked by the wife of Zebedee and her sons was something possible for the human condition or for any creature, or impossible. If possible, how did he lack the power to grant the apostles a seat at his left or at his right, he who made to be all things that were not? Or how could he not judge the merits of men, to whom the Father has given all judgment? It is known how he gave it; for how could the Son receive as one in need, who created all things from nothing? Did he not have judgment over those whose natures he had made? But the Father gave all judgment to the Son: “so that all,” he says, “may honor the Son as they honor the Father.” It is not the Son’s power, then, that advances, but our knowledge; nor is anything added to his substance, but to our profit, when he is known by us, so that by knowing the Son of God we may have eternal life. And since in the knowledge of the Son of God the honor is his but the profit is ours, not his, if anyone thinks that the power of God is increased by that honor, he must believe that God the Father too can be increased, because he too is glorified through our knowledge, as the Son is, according to what is written, when the Son says: “I have glorified you on earth.” So if what was asked was something possible, it was certainly in the Son’s power. But let them show, if they think it possible, who among men or other creatures sits at the right or at the left of the Son; for the Father says to the Son: “Sit at my right hand.” So if anyone sits at the Son’s right, then the Son, to speak in human fashion, is found in the middle between him and the Father. It was not, then, something possible for man that was asked; but he did not want to say that men cannot sit with him, since he wished his divine glory to be hidden, not published, before he rose again. For earlier too, when he had appeared in glory among his servants Moses and Elijah, he had warned the disciples to tell no one what they had seen. So if it was not possible for men or other creatures to merit this, the Son should not seem to have less power because he did not give the apostles what the Father too has not given to men or to other creatures. Or let them say to which of these the Father has given it. Certainly not to the angels, of whom Scripture says that all the angels stood around the throne. Indeed Gabriel said that he stood, as you have it: “I am Gabriel, who stand before the Lord.” Not, then, to the angels; not to the elders who worship him who sits; for they do not sit on the throne of majesty but, as Scripture said, around the throne; for there are twenty-four other seats, as you have in the Apocalypse of John: “And on the seats, twenty-four elders sitting.” In the Gospel too the Lord himself says: “When the Son of Man sits on the throne of his majesty, you too will sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” So he did not say that a share in his own throne could be given to the apostles, but that those twelve thrones are others; and these we ought to understand not of a bodily sitting together but of the succession of spiritual grace. Indeed in the book of Kings the prophet Micaiah said: “I saw the Lord God of Israel sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing around him, at his right and at his left.” How, then, while the angels stand at the right or the left of the Lord God, while all the host of heaven stands, will men sit at the right of God or at his left, men to whom the likeness of angels is promised as the reward of virtue, as the Lord says: “They will be as the angels in heaven”? “As the angels,” he says, not more than the angels. If, then, the Father has given nothing more than the Son, the Son has certainly given nothing less than the Father; the Son, then, can do nothing less than the Father. But suppose that what was asked was possible for men to obtain: what does he mean by saying, “But to sit at my right hand or at my left is not mine to give you”? What is “mine”? Above he said, “You will drink my cup”; below he put, “It is not mine to give you”; above and below he said “mine,” and did not change it. So what came before teaches why he said “mine.” For he was asked by the woman as a man, to let her sons sit at his right or at his left; since she had asked him as a man, the Lord also answered as though he were only a man, about his passion: “Can you drink the cup which I am about to drink?” So, since he was speaking according to the flesh about the passion of his body, he wanted to show that according to the flesh he would leave us the example and likeness of the suffering to be undergone, but that according to the human condition he would not grant a share in the heavenly throne. This is why he said, “It is not mine,” as elsewhere: “My teaching is not mine”; “it is not mine,” he says, that is, according to the flesh; because divine things are not the words of the flesh. And how plainly he revealed his indulgence toward the disciples he loved, by putting first: “You will drink my cup”! For since he ought not to give what they had asked, he offered something else, so as to mention first what he was granting them rather than what he was refusing, so that they might understand that what was lacking was the fairness of their request rather than the eagerness of the Lord’s generosity. “You will drink my cup,” he says; that is, I will not refuse the passion, which belongs to my flesh; what I have from the humanity I assumed, you can imitate: I have given you the victory of suffering, the inheritance of the cross. “But to sit at my right hand or at my left is not mine to give you.” He did not say, “It is not mine to give,” but, “It is not mine to give you”; that is, asserting not that power was lacking to him, but that merit was lacking to creatures. Take it another way: “It is not mine to give you,” that is, it is not mine, who came to teach humility; not mine, who came not to be served but to serve; not mine, who keep justice, not favor. Indeed, referring it to the Father, he added, “for whom it is prepared,” to show that the Father too is accustomed to have regard not to petitions but to merits, because God is no respecter of persons. Hence the Apostle too says: “Those whom he foreknew, he also predestined”; for he did not predestine before he foreknew, but he predestined the rewards of those whose merits he foreknew. Rightly, then, is the woman rebuked, who asked for things both impossible and by a special privilege from that Lord who, by his own free generosity, without anyone asking, conferred what he judged was to be given to the saints, not on two apostles but on all the disciples, as it is written: “You twelve will sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” So even if we think that what was asked was possible, there is no room for a false charge; yet when I read that the Seraphim stand, how can I think that men sit at the right or the left of the Son of God? The Lord sits above the Cherubim, as you have it: “You who sit upon the Cherubim, appear”; how will the apostles sit above the Cherubim? And I gather this not from my own wit but from the oracle of the Lord’s voice; for the Lord himself, commending the apostles to the Father at the end, says: “Father, I will that where I am, those whom you have given me may also be with me.” Certainly, if he had judged that the Father would give the divine throne to men, he would have said: “I will that where I sit, they also may sit with me.” But “I will,” he says, “that they may be with me,” not that they may sit with me; and “where I am,” not “as I am.” Then follows: “That they may see my glory.” Nor did he say here, “That they may have my glory,” but “that they may see”; for the servant sees, the Lord possesses; as David too taught, saying: “That I may see the delight of the Lord.” And the Lord himself revealed it in the Gospel, declaring: “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.” “They shall see,” he says; they will not sit with God above the Cherubim. Let them stop, then, thinking baser things of the Son of God according to his divinity, lest they think baser things of the Father too. For he who believes wrongly about the Son cannot think rightly about the Father; he who believes wrongly about the Spirit cannot think rightly about the Son. For where there is one dignity, one glory, one love, one majesty, whatever you think should be taken away in one is taken away from all in common; for there will no longer be a fullness which you can distinguish and divide into portions.
Matt 20:23 (allusion, high confidence) · John 5:22 (allusion, high confidence) · John 5:23 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:3 (allusion, high confidence) · John 17:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 110:1 (109:1 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 17:9 (allusion, high confidence) · Rev 7:11 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 1:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Rev 4:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 19:28 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Kgs 22:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 22:30 (quotation, high confidence) · Mark 10:38 (quotation, high confidence) · John 7:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 20:28 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 10:34 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 8:29 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 6:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 80:1 (79:2 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 27:4 (26:4 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 5:8 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Ambrose argues that the request of James and John for seats beside Christ was impossible for any creature, since even angels and the Seraphim stand before God, and that Christ’s “not mine to give” was said according to his humanity.
- The digital text begins this chapter with the end of Migne’s chapter summary, removed by a logged correction. Quotations and allusions: John 5:22–23; John 17:3; John 17:4; Ps 110:1; Matt 17:9; Rev 7:11; Luke 1:19; Rev 4:4; Matt 19:28; 1 Kgs 22:19; Matt 22:30; Mark 10:38; John 7:16; Matt 20:28; Acts 10:34; Rom 8:29; Isa 6:2; Ps 80:1 (LXX 79:2); John 17:24; Ps 27:4 (LXX 26:4); Matt 5:8. “At the right or at the left of the Son” renders a damaged phrase (sinistram Do sedeat); translated by sense.
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- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip and column number; OCR slip and inline footnote letter; OCR slips and column number; column and paragraph numbers and OCR slip; end of Migne's chapter summary; inline footnote letter and OCR slip; paragraph number; stray marks): ipsi omne judicium Pater dederit, qnod sine ulta imperfectionis nota intelligendum. Attamen idem postulatum inter impossibilia censendum probat. Quod ut omnino esset possibile, tunc responsum Christi secundum naturam humanam accipiendum tradit, ac loci explicatione declarat. Denique iterum suam confirmat de sessionis hujus impossibilitate responsionem. → ; non h'buit potestatem → non habuit potestatem; iodigens accepit F'Hus, qui omnia erravit → indigens accepit Filius, qui omnia creavit; nati'ras → naturas; Kon igitur → Non igitur; oeqne aliquid ad substantiam 564 ejus → neque aliquid ad substantiam ejus; tU cognoscendo → ut cognoscendo; qnia et ipse → quia et ipse; aliquid crat → aliquid erat; 72 Non ergo possibile → Non ergo possibile; sed ere secum n<'n possint → sedere secum non possint; celari. priusquam resurgeret, non divulgat i cupiebat → celari, priusquam resurgeret, non divulgari cupiebat; mercri → mereri; apostolis I quod nec Pater hominibus vet creaturis c.cteris → apostolis quod nec Pater hominibus vel creaturis cæteris; dedcrit → dederit; Non uuqne angelis → Non utique angelis; Gab) iel → Gabriel; seniorihus → senioribus; ut babes in Apocalypsi → ut habes in Apocalypsi; homnis → hominis; consortium. sed alias → consortium, sed alias; uon pro corporali → non pro corporali; Micbaeas propbeta: j'idi Dominum DeuM Israel → Michæas propheta: Vidi Dominum Deum Israel; omni, militia → omnis militia; circa eam, ad dexteram ejua → circa eum, ad dexteram ejus; bominesad → homines ad; Eniti. sicut an geli → Erunt sicut angeli; h'ilius potest → Filius potest; Ponite mmen possibile impetratu hom!nib"s 565 quod posc<'retnr → Ponite tamen possibile impetratu hominibus quod poscebatur; dexteratM meam vel ad sinistram noM est → dexteram meam vel ad sinistram non est; Non eat meum dare vobis; et supra meum, ct infra → Non est meum dare vobis; et supra meum, et infra; R"g 'tus enim a muliere quasi hnmo → Rogatus enim a muliere quasi homo; sedcM patcremr → sedere pateretur; quas! tantummodo → quasi tantummodo; passiohe → passione; Postetis bibere → Potestis bibere; !oqnebatur → loquebatur; sedis SII pernae consortia dunaret. line est enim → sedis supernæ consortia donaret. Hoc est enim; Non eat meum; sicut aiib): Mea doctrina non eat mea → Non est meum; sicut alibi: Mea doctrina non est mea; Mon est enim, inquit, Ii secundum → Non est enim, inquit, secundum; tribMere) → tribueret; liberalitalis → liberalitatis; carnis meae eat → carnis meæ est; hahco → habeo; passionis. hæreditatem → passionis, hæreditatem; sed. non est meum dare vobi: → sed: Non est meum dare vobis; a!i)er: Non est meum dare vobi.. → aliter: Non est meum dare vobis.; veni *' humilitatem → veni humilitatem; nongraHam → non gratiam; rcferens → referens; parataM → paratum; acceptor non cst → acceptor non est; Apostolus att: Quo. præscivit → Apostolus ait: Quos præscivit; ah eo Domino → ab eo Domino; do. nanda, non duohus → donanda, non duobus; 566 85. Ergo etiamsi poss!bi)c → Ergo etiamsi possibile; ( E<at. v!, 2). quomodo → ( Esai. vi, 2), quomodo; Che'ubin< sedebunt → Cherubim sedebunt; ex meu ingenio, sed ex Domunicæ → ex meo ingenio, sed ex Dominicæ; apostolus commendans → apostolos commendans; lit ubi ego → ut ubi ego; dixis set: Voto ut → dixisset: Volo ut; III sint mecum → ut sint mecum; Ueinde → Deinde; Nec hie dixit → Nec hic dixit; servus euim videt, Dominus pussidet → servus enim videt, Dominus possidet; c voluptatem DoMnini → voluptatem Domini; !nqu!< → inquit; scdebunt → sedebunt; de P:'tre: d qui → de Patre: qui; E'ilio → Filio.
Topics: Christology, Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Fid. 5.6 (PL 16:625a–626c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ambrose-fide/5-3/#p-5-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 16 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 10 (de Romestin, 1896); differences checked against the Latin.
5.7PL 16:626c–627C!
Exsistant tamen, Imperator auguste, qui hanc divinæ unitatem substantiæ negare cupientes, extenuare studeant Patris et Filii charitatem; quia scriptum est: Et dilexisti eos, sicut et me dilexisti ( Joan. XVII, 23 ). Quod cum dicunt, quid aliud agunt, nisi inter Dei Filium et homines æqualitatem quamdam comparationis inducunt? Numquid sic diligi possunt a Deo homines quemadmodum Filius, in quo complacuit Pater? Ille per se complacet, nos per ipsum: in quibus enim Deus Filium suum ad imaginem suam cernit, eos per Filium adsciscit in gratiam filiorum; ut quem admodum per imaginem ad imaginem sumus; sic per generationem Filii in adoptionem vocemur. Alius igitur naturæ amor sempiternus, alius gratiæ. Aut si ex verbis faciunt quæstionem, quia scriptum est: Et dilexisti eos, sicut et me dilexisti; et comparationem factam putant: ergo et illud com parative dictum putant: Estote misericordes, sicut et Pater vester qui est in cœlis, misericors est; et alibi: Estote perfecti, sicut et Pater meus, qui in cœlis est, perfectus est. Quod si ille secundum plenitudinem majestatis suæ perfectus est, nos autem perfecti secundum virtutis accedentis profectum; etiam Filius diligitur a Patre secundum semper manentis plenitudinem charitatis: in nobis autem charitatem Dei virtutis emeretur profectus. Vides igitur quam gratiam Deus dederit hominibus, et tu Patris et Filii vis dissolvere naturalem et individuam charitatem; et tu verba adhuc discutis, ubi unitatem majestatis advertis? Vide totum hunc locum, ex cujus affectu loquatur: habes enim dicentem ipsum: Clarifica me, Pater, claritate ea quam habui, priusquam mundus esset, apud te. Vide quia ex primi hominis loquatur affectu; quia nobis ea petitione deposcit, quæ ante peccatum in paradiso homo me minerit esse collata, ut et latroni in passione me moravit: Amen, amen dico tibi, hodie mecum eris in paradiso. Haec est ante mundum claritas. Mundum autem pro hominibus dixit, sicut habes: Ecce mundus totus post ipsum abit; et alibi: Ut cognoscat hic mundus quia tu me misisti (Joan. XIV, 31). Et tamen ut scires magnum Deum et salutarem et omnipotentem Dei Filium; indicium suæ majestatis admiscuit dicendo: Et mea omnia tua sunt, et tua mea. Omnia habet, et tu missum esse ad injuriam derivas? Qui si secundum carnem non accipis missum, ut Apostolus dixit ( Rom. vm, 3), et ex verbo sim plici praejudicium struis, quo dicas inferiores a superioribus mitti solere: quid ad illa respondes, quod Filius ad homines missus est? Nam si minorem putas eum qui mittitur, eo videlicet a quo mittitur; disce quod et minor majorem misit, et majores ad minores missi sunt. Nam et Tobias Raphaelem archangelum misit (Tobiæ IX, 3), et angelus ad Balaam missus est, et Dei Filius ad Judæos. Numquid ergo minor etiam Judæis Dei Filius, ad quos mittebatur? De ipso enim scriptum est: Novissime autem misit eis filium suum unicum dicens: Verebuntur filium meum( Matth. xxi, 37). Et vide quia ante servos, postea filium nominavit; ut scias quod Deus Filius unigenitus secundum divinitatis potentiam nec nomen habet, nec consortium curti mune tdm senis reterendus mittitur, non tum famulis conferendum. Et bene addidit, meum, ut non unus de multis, nec degeneris naturæ, nec minoris alicujus potestatis: sed verus a vero, et paternæ imago venisse substantiæ crederetur. Esto tamen, minor sit qui mittitur, eo a quo mittitur; ergo et Pilato minor Christus, quoniam Pilatus misit eum ad Herodem. Sed sermo non præjudicat potestati: Scriptura, quæ missum dicit a Patre, missum dicit a præside. Unde si sobrie de Dei Filio quæ digna sunt, opinemur; ideo missum intelligere debemus, quia ex illo incomprehensibili inenarrabilique secreto majestatis profundæ dedit se comprehendendum pro captu nostro mentibus nostris Dei Verbum, non solum cum se exinaniret, sed etiam cum habitaret in nobis, sicut scriptum est: Quoniam inhabitabo in illis ( II Cor. vi, 16). Denique et alibi habes quia Deus dixit: Venite, descendamus, et confundamus linguas eorum ( Gen. XI, 7 ). Non enim Deus de loco aliquando descendit, qui ait: Ego cœlum et terram compleo; sed in eo descendere videtur, si nostros Dei Verbum penetret affectus, sicut dixit propheta: Parate viam Domino, rectas facite semitas ejus; ut quemadmodum ipse promisit, veniens cum Patre, apud nos faciat man sionem. Evidens est igitur quomodo veniat.
Yet there arise, august Emperor, those who, wishing to deny this unity of the divine substance, try to weaken the love of the Father and the Son, because it is written: “And you have loved them as you have loved me.” When they say this, what else are they doing but bringing in a certain equality of comparison between the Son of God and men? Can men be loved by God as the Son is, in whom the Father is well pleased? He is well pleasing in himself, we through him; for in those in whom God sees his Son according to his image, he takes them through the Son into the grace of sons; so that, as we are in the image through the Image, so through the generation of the Son we are called to adoption. The love of nature, then, which is everlasting, is one thing; the love of grace another. Or if they raise a question from the words, because it is written, “And you have loved them as you have loved me,” and think that a comparison is made, then let them think that this too was said by way of comparison: “Be merciful, as your Father who is in heaven is merciful”; and elsewhere: “Be perfect, as my Father who is in heaven is perfect.” But as he is perfect according to the fullness of his majesty, and we are perfect according to the progress of an acquired virtue, so too the Son is loved by the Father according to the fullness of an ever-abiding love, while in us the progress of virtue earns the love of God. You see, then, what grace God has given to men; and do you want to dissolve the natural and undivided love of the Father and the Son? And do you still argue about words, when you see the unity of majesty? Look at this whole passage, and see from what feeling he speaks; for you have him saying: “Glorify me, Father, with the glory which I had with you before the world was.” See that he speaks with the feeling of the first man; for by that petition he asks for us those things which man remembers were bestowed in paradise before sin, as he mentioned to the thief at the passion: “Amen, amen I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.” This is the glory before the world. And he said “world” for men, as you have it: “See, the whole world has gone after him”; and elsewhere: “That this world may know that you sent me.” And yet, so that you might know that the Son of God is the great God, the Savior, the Almighty, he mixed in a sign of his majesty, saying: “And all mine are yours, and yours are mine.” He has all things, and do you turn his being sent into an insult? And if you do not take “sent” according to the flesh, as the Apostle said, and build a prejudice from a simple word, so as to say that inferiors are usually sent by superiors, what do you answer to the fact that the Son was sent to men? For if you think that the one who is sent is less than the one by whom he is sent, learn that the lesser has sent the greater, and the greater have been sent to the lesser. For Tobias sent the archangel Raphael, and an angel was sent to Balaam, and the Son of God to the Jews. Was the Son of God, then, less even than the Jews to whom he was sent? For of him it is written: “Last of all he sent them his only son, saying: They will respect my son.” And see that he named the servants first and the son afterwards, so that you may know that God, the only-begotten Son, according to the power of his divinity, has neither name nor fellowship in common with servants; he is sent as one to be revered, not to be ranked with the servants. And he rightly added “my,” so that he might be believed to be not one of many, nor of a degenerate nature, nor of some lesser power, but true from true, and to have come as the image of the Father’s substance. Yet suppose that the one who is sent is less than the one by whom he is sent: then Christ was less than Pilate too, since Pilate sent him to Herod. But a word does not prejudge power: Scripture, which says that he was sent by the Father, says that he was sent by the governor. Hence, if we think soberly the things that are worthy of the Son of God, we ought to understand that he was sent in this sense: that out of that incomprehensible and ineffable secret of his deep majesty the Word of God gave himself to be grasped by our minds according to our capacity, not only when he emptied himself but also when he dwelt in us, as it is written: “For I will dwell in them.” Indeed you have elsewhere that God said: “Come, let us go down and confuse their languages.” For God, who says, “I fill heaven and earth,” never goes down from one place to another; but he seems to go down in this, when the Word of God enters our hearts, as the prophet said: “Prepare the way of the Lord; make straight his paths”; so that, as he himself promised, coming with the Father he may make his dwelling with us. It is evident, then, how he comes.
John 17:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 3:17 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 8:29 (allusion, medium confidence) · Luke 6:36 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 5:48 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 23:43 (quotation, high confidence) · John 12:19 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:21 (quotation, medium confidence) · John 17:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Titus 2:13 (echo, medium confidence) · Rom 8:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Num 22:22 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 21:37 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 23:7 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 6:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 11:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 23:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 40:3 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:23 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Ambrose explains that John 17:23 does not make men equal to the Son in the Father’s love, that John 17:5 speaks with the feeling of the first man, and that the Son’s being “sent” implies no inferiority, since the lesser may send the greater.
- The digital text begins this chapter with Migne’s chapter summary and his note of another chapter division, removed by a logged correction. Quotations and allusions: John 17:23; Matt 3:17; Rom 8:29; Luke 6:36; Matt 5:48; John 17:5; Luke 23:43; John 12:19; John 14:31 (17:21); John 17:10; Titus 2:13; Rom 8:3; Tob 5 (Tobias sending Raphael, as Ambrose puts it); Num 22:22; Matt 21:37; Luke 23:7; 2 Cor 6:16; Gen 11:7; Jer 23:24; Isa 40:3; John 14:23. The phrase “he is sent as one to be revered, not to be ranked with the servants” renders a damaged passage (curti mune tdm senis reterendus); translated by sense.
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- Digital text corrected (Migne's chapter summary and his note of another chapter division; OCR slip; column and paragraph numbers; inline footnote letter; inline footnote letter and OCR slips; inline footnote letter or column number of the digitization; paragraph number; stray mark and OCR slips): Dilexisti eus, sicut et me dilexisti, ut diluatur, primo Arianorum expo sitionis impietas demonstratur, deinde comparantur eadem verba cum similibus, ac demum totus locus consideratur. Hinc deducitur Christi missionem, e( si secundum carnem accipienda est. illi non offi cere. Quo probato, qui fiat divina missio de scribitur. [Alias cap. III. ] → ; substantia: ne gare → substantiæ negare; scriptum est:: Et dilexisti eo., sicut → scriptum est: Et dilexisti eos, sicut; d:cunt. qui aliud → dicunt, quid aliud; PoL homines → et homines; Num<)uid → Numquid; ill quo complacuit → in quo complacuit; Deos H'ilium → Deus Filium; gratiain → gratiam; 9t. Aut si → Aut si; thia scriptum → quia scriptum; crgo) et illud → ergo et illud; Puter vesler qui est in cœlis, misericors eat → Pater vester qui est in cœlis, misericors est; in caelia eat, perfectus eat. QnOd si → in cœlis est, perfectus est. Quod si; perfecti a secundum → perfecti secundum; prorectum → profectum; charitatcm Dei → charitatem Dei; Itominibas, et tu Patris et Filii Tis dissolvere naturatcm → hominibus, et tu Patris et Filii vis dissolvere naturalem; adhuo → adhuc; to quatur → loquatur; ° Vide quia ex pr!m! hominis → Vide quia ex primi hominis; dcposcit → deposcit; cIa.. ritas → claritas; h:)bes → habes; (Joa)!. XIV, 5!) → (Joan. XIV, 31); d iudicium sup maje statis → indicium suæ majestatis; tUa sunt → tua sunt; a sa perioribus mini solere: quid ad ilia respondes, quM Filius → a superioribus mitti solere: quid ad illa respondes, quod Filius; disce qnod ei minor majorem → disce quod et minor majorem; Nam et Totas Raphaelem → Nam et Tobias Raphaelem; Dui Filius ad Jadacos → Dei Filius ad Judæos; Dei Fillius → Dei Filius; scriptunt est: No vissime autem misit eia → scriptum est: Novissime autem misit eis; ( Matth. xxi, 57) Et vide → ( Matth. xxi, 37). Et vide; pOsta filium → postea filium; unigenitussecundum → unigenitus secundum; nee nomen habet → nec nomen habet; 568 U7. Et bene → Et bene; a ver<) → a vero; paternse → paternæ; a qUo' mittitur → a quo mittitur; upincmur → opinemur; ex into incomprehensibili → ex illo incomprehensibili; ma jestat!s → majestatis; pto captu → pro captu; nostris nei Verbum → nostris Dei Verbum; inhabitabo in iIli, → inhabitabo in illis; nen!que → Denique; qnia Deus d'xit → quia Deus dixit; Heus d6 loco → Deus de loco; Ega cœlum ct terram → Ego cœlum et terram; descendere v!. detur → descendere videtur; nostros nei Verbum → nostros Dei Verbum; se mitas ejus;; → semitas ejus;; ad 567 → ad; quam b → quam; Herodem. f → Herodem..
Extrabiblical texts: Tob 5 (Tobit [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; allusion)
Topics: Christology, Trinity
Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Fid. 5.7 (PL 16:626c–627C!; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ambrose-fide/5-3/#p-5-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 16 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 10 (de Romestin, 1896); differences checked against the Latin.