On the Christian Faith 5.8–5.12

Latin text: Migne, PL 16 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 2, vol. 10 (1896).

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Chapter 5

5.8PL 16:627c!–629c

Unde et evidens est quomodo dominum dicat, quem Patrem novit, ait enim: Confiteor tibi, Pater, Domine cœli et terræ. Ante Patrem dixit Sapientia suum, postea creaturæ Dominum nuncupavit. Itaque dominatum non esse ubi vera progenies est, ipse Dominus ostendit in Evangelio suo, dicens: Quid vobis videtur de Christo? cujus Fi­ lius est? Dicunt ei: David. Ait illis Jesus: Quomodo ergo David in spiritu vocat eum Dominum, dicens: Dixit Dominus Domino meo: Sede a dextris meis? Et addidit: Si ergo David in spiritu vocat eum Dominum, quomodo filius ejus est? Et nemo poterat ei respondere verbum (Matth. XXII, 42 et seq. ). O quam caute propter Arianos etiam in hoc testimonio Dominus fidei prospexit! Non enim dixit: Vocat eum spiritus dominum: sed quia David dixit in spiritu; ut cujus secundum carnem Filius est, David scilicet, ejus etiam secundum divinitatem et Dominus et Deus crederetur. Vides igitur quia nomen pietatis et dominii discretum est. Et bene Dominus suum quidem Patrem cœli autem et terræ Dominum prædicavit; ut tu cum legis et Patrem et Dominum, intelligas Patrem Filii, et Dominum creaturæ. In alio prærogativa naturæ est, in alio auctoritas potestatis; formam enim servi accipiens, eo utique Dominum vocat, quo servitutem suscepit, æqualis in Dei forma, servus in corporis: servitus enim carnis, dominatus autem divinitatis est. Unde et Apostolus ait: Deus Domini nostri Jesu Christi, pater gloriæ ( i! Cor. I, 3), hoc est, Deum assumptionis humanæ asserens, Patrem autem gloriæ. Num enim duos filios habuit Deus Christum et gloriam? Minime. Ergo si unus Dei Filius Christus, utique Christus est gloria. Quid autem ei derogas, qui Patris gloria est? Si ergo et Filius gloria est, et Pater gloria; quia Pater gloriæ non potest aliud esse quam gloria: non divisio gloriarum, sed una est gloria. Itaque ad proprietatem naturæ gloria refertur, dominatus vero ad suscepti corporis servitutem. Si enim caro etiam justi animæ subdita est, sicut scriptum est: Castigo corpus meum, et servituti redigo ( I Cor. II, 27), quanto magis subjecta et divinitati, de qua dicitur: Quoniam universa serviunt tibi? Una autem quæstione et Sabellianos et Photinianos et Arianos Dominus exclusit. Nam cum David dixisse Dominum dicit, Sabellius excluditur, qui eumdem Patrem vult esse quem Filium. Exclu­ ditur Photinus, qui secundum carnem judicat; quia dominus David regis non poterat esse, nisi qui Deus est; scriptum est enim: Dominum Deum tuum adorabis, et illi soli servies. Numquid contra Legem propheta sentiret, qui sub Lege regnaret? Ex­ cluditur Arius, qui Filium sedere audit ad dexteram Patris; Ut si ex usu argumentetur humano, ipse se perimat, et venenum sacrilegæ disputationis suæ in se refundat, ut dum inæqualitatem Patris et Filii ex consuetudine hominum interpretatur, in utroque a vero devius, eum præferat cui derogat, confessurus priorem quem audit ad dexteram. Excluditur etiam Manichæus: non enim negat esse eum David filium secundum carnem; utpote qui clamantibus cæcis: Jesu, fili David, miserere nobis; et delectatus est fide, et stetit et curavit eos: sed negat hoc suæ esse æternitatis, ut David solius filius a perfidis nominetur. Nam Filius Dei est contra Hebionem, Filius David est contra Manichæos: Filius Dei est contra Photinum, Filius David est contra Marcionem: Filius Dei est contra Paulum Samosatenum: Filius David est contra Valentinum: Filius Dei est contra Arium atque Sabellium gentilis erroris hæredes: Dominus David est contra Judæos, qui Dei Filium in carne cernentes, hominem tantummodo impio errore credebant. Sed Ecclesiastica fide et Dei Patris et David idem atque unus est Filius; quia incarnationis Dei mysterium universæ salus est creaturæ; secundum quod scriptum est: Ut sine Deo pro omnibus gustaret mortem, id est, quod creatura omnis sine passione aliqua divinitatis Dominici sanguinis redimenda sit pretio, ut alibi habet: Omnis creatura liberabitur a servitute corruptionis (Rom. vnt, 21). Aliud est igitur secundum divinam substantiam, aliud secundum susceptionem carnis Filium nominari: nam secundum generationem divinam Deo Patri æqualis est Filius, et secundum susceptionem corporis Deo Patri servus est; quia formam servi, inquit (Phil. ii, 7), accepit: unus tamen atque idem est Filius. Contra autem sancto patriarchæ David secundum gloriam suam Dominus est, secundum corporalis successionis seriem filius est, non deficiens a se, sed nostræ jus sibi adoptionis acquirens. Nec solum ex genere David servitutem suscepit in persona hominis; sed etiam ex nomine. sicut habes: Inveni David servum meum; et alibi: Ecce ego mittam ad vos servum meum ( Zach. III, 8 ), Oriens nomen est ei. Et ipse Filius ait: Sic dicit Dominus, qui finxit me ex utero servum sibi, et dixit mihi: Magnum tibi est vocari puerum meum. Ecce posui te in testamentum generis mei, in lucem gentium; ut sis in salutem usque ad extremum terrœ (Esai. XLIX, 6 et seq.). Cui hoc dicitur, nisi Christo? qui cum in forma Dei esset, exinanivit se, et formam servi accepit ( Phil. II, 6). Quid est in Dei forma, nisi in divinitatis plenitudine? Disce igitur quid sit: Formam servi accepit. id est, plenitudinem perfectionis humanae, plenitu­ dinem obedientiae. Ideoque dicit in psalmo trigesimo: Statuisti in loco spatioso pedes meos. Super omnes inimicos meos factus sum opprobrium. Illustra faciem tuam super servum tuum ( P<a<. xxx, 9, ii et 17). Servus dictus est homo, in quo sanctificatus est: servus homo, in quo unctus est: servus homo, in quo factus sub Lege, factus ex Virgine est; et ut compendio dicam, servus dictus est, in quo matrem habet, sicut scriptum est: O Domine, ego servus tuus, ego servus tuus, et filius ancillœ tuæ ( Psa/. civ, 7); et alibi: Afflictus sum et humiliatus sum nimis (Psa/. XXXVII, 9). Quis nimis humiliatus est, nisi Christus, qui venit ut omnes liberaret per obedientiam? Sicut enim per inobedientiam unius hominis peccatores constituti sunt plurimi, ita et per unius obedientiam justi constituentur multi ( Rom. v, 19). Quis calicem salutarem (Psa/. cxv, 13 ) accepit, Christus prin­ ceps sacerdotum, an David, qui neque sacerdotium habuit, neque passionem subiit? Quis sacrificavit hostiam laudis? Sed si hoc parum est, accipe aliud: Custodi animam meam, quoniam ego sanctus sum ( Psal. LXXXV, 2). Numquid de se hoc diceret David? Sed ille dicit, qui ait: Non derelinques animam meam in inferno, nec dabis sanctum tuum videre corruptionem ( Psal. xv, 10 ). Idem ergo utrumque dicit. Addidit vero: Salvum fac servum tuum ( Psa/. LXXXV, 2); et infra: Da potestatem puero tuo, et filio ancillœ tuæ ( Ibid. i6); et alibi, id est, in Ezechiele: Et suscitabo super eos pastorem unum, et reget eos servus meus David. Ipse pascet eos, et erit eorum pastor: et ego Dominus ero illis in Deum, et servus meus David in medio eorum princeps ( Ezech. XXXIV, 23, 24). Utique David jam defunctus erat, filius Jesse. De Christo itaque dicit, qui propter nos filius ancillae factus est, secundum formam hominis; nam secundum divinam generationem non matrem habet, sed Patrem: nec corporalis ventris est fructus, sed sempiterna Dei virtus. Ergo etiam illud cum legimus quia dixit Do­ minus: Tempus meum nondum impletum est ( Joan. VII, 8), et: Adhuc modicum vobiscum sum ( Joan. XIII, 35), et: V ado ad eum qui misit me ( Ibid. ), et: Clarificatus est Filius hominis ( Ibid., 31 ), ad incarna­ tionis sacramentum referre debemus. Cum autemlegimus: Et Deus clarificatus est in eo, et Deus clarifi­ cavit eum ( Ibid. ); quid ibi est quæstionis, ubi et Filius clarificatur a Patre, et Pater clarificatur a Fi­ lio? Denique ut fidem unitatis et copulam Trinitatis aperiret, etiam ab Spiritu clarificandum esse se dixit, sicut habes: Ille de meo accipiet, et clarificabit me ( Joan. XVI, 14 ). Clarificat ergo Dei Filium etiam Spiritus sanctus. Quomodo igitur ipse dixit: Si ego clarificavero me ipsum, claritas mea nihil est (Joan. VIII, 54 )? Ergo nihil est claritas Filii! Sacrilegum est dicere, nisi referas ad carnem; quia ex persona hominis Filius loquebatur, eo quod comparatione divinitatis nulla est carnis claritas. Desinant igitur impie objicere, quod in suam perfidiam retorquetur. Dicunt enim: Scriptum est: Nunc clarificatus est Filius hominis ( Joan. XIII, 31 ). Non nego scriptum: Clarificatus est Filius hominis; sed videant quid sequatur: Et Deus clarificatus est in eo. Ego excusationem habeo de Filio hominis, ille de Patre non habet; quia Pater non suscepit carnem. Excusationem habeo, et non utor: ille non habet, et calumniatur. Aut simpliciter me patiatur intelli­ gere, aut ad carnem referre quæ carnis sunt. Pia mens, quæ leguntur secundum carnem divinitatem­ que, distinguit: sacrilega confundit, et ad divinita­ tis detorquet injuriam, quidquid secundum humili­ tatem carnis est dictum.

Hence it is also evident how he calls him Lord whom he knows as Father; for he says: “I confess to you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth.” Wisdom first called him its own Father, and afterwards named him Lord of creation. So the Lord himself shows in his Gospel that there is no lordship where there is true offspring, saying: “What do you think of the Christ? Whose son is he?” They said to him: “David’s.” Jesus said to them: “How, then, does David in the Spirit call him Lord, saying: The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at my right hand?” And he added: “If, then, David in the Spirit calls him Lord, how is he his son?” And no one could answer him a word. O how carefully, even in this testimony, the Lord provided for faith against the Arians! For he did not say, “The Spirit calls him Lord,” but that David said it in the Spirit; so that he whose son he is according to the flesh, namely David’s, he might be believed to be also Lord and God according to divinity. You see, then, that the name of fatherly love and the name of lordship are distinct. And the Lord rightly proclaimed his own Father, but Lord of heaven and earth; so that, when you read both “Father” and “Lord,” you may understand Father of the Son and Lord of the creature. In the one is the prerogative of nature, in the other the authority of power; for, taking the form of a servant, he calls him Lord in that respect in which he took on servitude, equal in the form of God, a servant in the form of the body: for servitude belongs to the flesh, lordship to the divinity. Hence the Apostle too says: “The God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory”; that is, declaring him God of the human nature assumed, but Father of glory. Did God, then, have two sons, Christ and glory? Not at all. So if Christ is the one Son of God, Christ is certainly glory. And what do you take away from him who is the glory of the Father? If, then, the Son is glory and the Father is glory (for the Father of glory cannot be other than glory), there is not a division of glories but one glory. So glory is referred to the property of nature, but lordship to the servitude of the body he assumed. For if the flesh even of a righteous man is subject to the soul, as it is written, “I chastise my body and bring it into subjection,” how much more is it subject to the divinity, of which it is said, “For all things serve you”? But with one question the Lord shut out the Sabellians and the Photinians and the Arians. For when he says that David called him Lord, Sabellius is shut out, who wants the Father to be the same as the Son. Photinus is shut out, who judges him only according to the flesh; because no one could be lord of King David but one who is God; for it is written: “You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.” Would the prophet, who reigned under the Law, think against the Law? Arius is shut out, who hears that the Son sits at the right hand of the Father; so that, if he argues from human custom, he destroys himself and pours back on himself the poison of his sacrilegious disputation; so that, while he interprets the inequality of Father and Son from the custom of men, he strays from the truth on both counts and gives preference to the one he disparages, being bound to confess as the superior the one he hears is at the right hand. The Manichaean too is shut out; for he does not deny that Jesus is the son of David according to the flesh, since, when the blind cried out, “Jesus, son of David, have mercy on us,” he was pleased with their faith, stood still, and healed them; but he denies that this belongs to his eternity, that the faithless call him the son of David only. For he is Son of God against Ebion, son of David against the Manichaeans; Son of God against Photinus, son of David against Marcion; Son of God against Paul of Samosata, son of David against Valentinus; Son of God against Arius and Sabellius, heirs of pagan error; Lord of David against the Jews, who, seeing the Son of God in the flesh, believed with impious error that he was only a man. But by the faith of the Church the Son of God the Father and of David is one and the same; because the mystery of God’s incarnation is the salvation of the whole creation, according to what is written: “That apart from God he might taste death for all”; that is, that every creature might be redeemed at the price of the Lord’s blood without any suffering of the divinity, as it has it elsewhere: “Every creature will be set free from the slavery of corruption.” It is one thing, then, for the Son to be named according to the divine substance, another according to his taking of flesh; for according to the divine generation the Son is equal to God the Father, and according to his taking of a body he is servant to God the Father; for, it says, “he took the form of a servant”; yet the Son is one and the same. To the holy patriarch David, on the other hand, he is Lord according to his glory and son according to the line of bodily descent, not falling short of himself, but acquiring for himself the right of our adoption. Nor did he take on servitude in the person of a man only from the race of David, but also from the name, as you have it: “I have found David my servant”; and elsewhere: “Behold, I will send to you my servant; the Dayspring is his name.” And the Son himself says: “Thus says the Lord, who formed me from the womb to be his servant, and said to me: It is a great thing for you to be called my servant. Behold, I have set you for a covenant of my race, for a light of the nations, that you may be for salvation to the end of the earth.” To whom is this said but to Christ, who, though he was in the form of God, emptied himself and took the form of a servant? What is “in the form of God” but in the fullness of divinity? Learn, then, what “he took the form of a servant” means: that is, the fullness of human perfection, the fullness of obedience. And so he says in the thirtieth psalm: “You set my feet in a spacious place. I have become a reproach above all my enemies. Make your face shine on your servant.” Man is called servant, in whom he was sanctified; servant, man, in whom he was anointed; servant, man, in whom he was made under the Law, made from a Virgin; and, to put it briefly, he is called servant in that respect in which he has a mother, as it is written: “O Lord, I am your servant, I am your servant and the son of your handmaid”; and elsewhere: “I am afflicted and humbled exceedingly.” Who was humbled exceedingly but Christ, who came to set all free through obedience? “For as through the disobedience of one man many were made sinners, so through the obedience of one many will be made righteous.” Who received the cup of salvation, Christ the high priest, or David, who neither had the priesthood nor underwent suffering? Who offered the sacrifice of praise? But if this is too little, take another: “Guard my soul, for I am holy.” Would David say this of himself? But it is he who says it who says: “You will not leave my soul in hell, nor give your holy one to see corruption.” The same, then, says both. And he added: “Save your servant”; and further on: “Give power to your servant, and to the son of your handmaid”; and elsewhere, that is, in Ezekiel: “And I will raise up over them one shepherd, and my servant David will rule them; he will feed them and be their shepherd; and I the Lord will be their God, and my servant David a prince in their midst.” Certainly David, the son of Jesse, was already dead. He speaks, then, of Christ, who for our sake was made the son of a handmaid according to the form of man; for according to the divine generation he has not a mother but a Father, nor is he the fruit of a bodily womb, but the everlasting power of God. So when we read too that the Lord said, “My time is not yet fulfilled,” and, “Yet a little while I am with you,” and, “I go to him who sent me,” and, “The Son of Man is glorified,” we ought to refer them to the mystery of the incarnation. But when we read, “And God is glorified in him, and God has glorified him,” what question is there here, where the Son is glorified by the Father and the Father is glorified by the Son? Indeed, to disclose the faith of unity and the bond of the Trinity, he said that he was also to be glorified by the Spirit, as you have it: “He will take of mine and will glorify me.” The Holy Spirit too, then, glorifies the Son of God. How, then, did he himself say, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing”? Is the Son’s glory, then, nothing? It is sacrilege to say so, unless you refer it to the flesh; for the Son was speaking in the person of a man, since in comparison with the divinity the flesh has no glory. Let them stop, then, impiously raising objections that are turned back on their own faithlessness. For they say: “It is written: Now is the Son of Man glorified.” I do not deny that it is written, “The Son of Man is glorified”; but let them see what follows: “And God is glorified in him.” I have an explanation in the case of the Son of Man; he has none in the case of the Father, for the Father did not take flesh. I have an explanation and do not use it; he has none and raises a false charge. Let him allow me either to understand it simply, or to refer to the flesh what belongs to the flesh. A devout mind distinguishes what is read according to the flesh from what is read according to the divinity; a sacrilegious mind confuses them, and twists into an insult to the divinity whatever was said according to the lowliness of the flesh.

Matt 11:25 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 22:42 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 22:43 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 22:45 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 22:46 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 110:1 (109:1 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 1:17 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 9:27 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 119:91 (118:91 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Deut 6:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 9:27 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 2:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 89:20 (88:21 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Zech 3:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Zech 6:12 (quotation, medium confidence) · Isa 49:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 49:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 31:8 (30:9 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 31:11 (30:12 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 31:16 (30:17 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 116:16 (115:16 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 38:8 (37:9 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 5:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 116:13 (115:13 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 116:17 (115:17 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 86:2 (85:2 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 16:10 (15:10 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 86:16 (85:16 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ezek 34:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Ezek 34:24 (quotation, high confidence) · John 7:8 (quotation, high confidence) · John 13:33 (quotation, high confidence) · John 7:33 (quotation, high confidence) · John 13:31 (quotation, high confidence) · John 13:32 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:14 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:54 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Ambrose explains that Christ calls the Father “Lord” in respect of his servant form, uses Christ’s question about David’s son and Lord to refute several heresies, and refers texts about Christ as servant and being glorified to his incarnation.

  • The digital text begins this chapter with the end of Migne’s chapter summary, removed by a logged correction. Ebion (the supposed founder of the Ebionites), Paul of Samosata, Photinus, Marcion, Valentinus, Sabellius, and the Manichaeans are named as holders of opposed errors about Christ. Quotations and allusions: Matt 11:25; Matt 22:42–46; Ps 110:1; Phil 2:6–7; Eph 1:17; 1 Cor 9:27; Ps 119:91; Deut 6:13; Matt 9:27–30; Heb 2:9 (in the reading “apart from God”); Rom 8:21; Ps 89:20 (LXX 88:21); Zech 3:8 and 6:12; Isa 49:5–6; Ps 31:8, 11, 16 (LXX 30:9, 12, 17; Ambrose calls it the thirtieth psalm); Ps 116:16 (LXX 115:16); Ps 38:8 (LXX 37:9); Rom 5:19; Ps 116:13, 17 (LXX 115:13, 17); Ps 86:2, 16 (LXX 85:2, 16); Ps 16:10 (LXX 15:10); Ezek 34:23–24; John 7:8; John 13:33; John 7:33; John 13:31–32; John 16:14; John 8:54.

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  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip and column number; OCR slip and inline footnote letter; OCR slip and paragraph number; OCR slips and inline footnote letter; column number and OCR slips; end of Migne's chapter summary and paragraph number; inline footnote letter and OCR slip; inline footnote letter or column number of the digitization; paragraph number): Filius, Dominum Mon esse, sed in quantum homo eat; Id verbis ejusdem modo Patrem, modo Dominum compellantia significa­ tur. Quot hæreses uno jugulentur Scripturæ vers;­ culo. Distinguenda igitur quæ Christo vel ut Dei vel ad Davidi. filio conveniant; illienim sub ultimo tontum nomine ascribendum, quod servus fuerit. Ad extremumcomplures locos demonstrat non nisi se­ cundum incarnationem accipi potae. tPO. → ; ait enim i Confitoor libi, Pater, Domine cœli el terræ. Ante Patrom → ait enim: Confiteor tibi, Pater, Domine cœli et terræ. Ante Patrem; Huncopavit. itaque → nuncupavit. Itaque; Evangotio sun, diona: Quid eoM< videtur → Evangelio suo, dicens: Quid vobis videtur; in 'spirit. vocal cum Dominum → in spiritu vocat eum Dominum; in spiritu vocal eum Dominum, quomodo filius ejus est 7 Et nemo poterat Ii respondere → in spiritu vocat eum Dominum, quomodo filius ejus est? Et nemo poterat ei respondere; (Matth. XXII, Ai et seq. ). 0 quam caute pr<'pter → (Matth. XXII, 42 et seq. ). O quam caute propter; Dominu!! fidei → Dominus fidei; d!iititt spiritu → dixit in spiritu; carnom 569 Filius → carnem Filius; eUam secundum → etiam secundum; erederetur.Vides Igitur quia nonien * pietatis et dominii diseretum eSI. Et bend → crederetur. Vides igitur quia nomen pietatis et dominii discretum est. Et bene; at to cam legis → ut tu cum legis; Filil → Filii; tn!m servi ac. cipiens, eo utique Dominum vcat → enim servi accipiens, eo utique Dominum vocat; doMinatas autem divinitatis eat → dominatus autem divinitatis est; aotem gloriæ → autem gloriæ; g!o" rtam → gloriam; uuns Dei Filius → unus Dei Filius; P.ttris gloria → Patris gloria; gtori i: → gloria:; nator:t gloria refertur, dominatus tu­ tero ad aoscepti → naturæ gloria refertur, dominatus vero ad suscepti; a!eut scriptum → sicut scriptum; deqna di­ citur → de qua dicitur; 104. Una autem → Una autem; Photimanos et Arianos Dominus exclusif. Nam cum Ilo. milium dixisse Domi... dicit, Sabelllus exeluditur, qui eumdem Patrem vult eMe qoem Filinm → Photinianos et Arianos Dominus exclusit. Nam cum David dixisse Dominum dicit, Sabellius excluditur, qui eumdem Patrem vult esse quem Filium; b qui secUndam carnem → qui secundum carnem; dominos David regis nOD pnterat eMe, nisi qui DeM est; scriptum eat enhn: Dominum Dėum tuum ado. rabis, et iUi soli → dominus David regis non poterat esse, nisi qui Deus est; scriptum est enim: Dominum Deum tuum adorabis, et illi soli; Numqutid → Numquid; sentiret,qui → sentiret, qui; Artus, qni Filium → Arius, qui Filium; humano. ipse Se perimat, et venetum sacrileg n disputationis sur. in ae refundas, II Ut dum → humano, ipse se perimat, et venenum sacrilegæ disputationis suæ in se refundat, ut dum; Patrie → Patris; cons'<etodihe hominun) → consuetudine hominum; eum praferat c')t derogat. confessu­ rus ptiorem → eum præferat cui derogat, confessurus priorem; Manichæns: non enim ncg.tt esse se Dav!d → Manichæus: non enim negat esse eum David; hi pote qui clamantibus → utpote qui clamantibus; Jesu,fili, David → Jesu, fili David; fide,et stetit → fide, et stetit; sum esse aeternitatis, Iii David solius → suæ esse æternitatis, ut David solius; N.<m Filius Dei est contra d Hebionem, Viii... David → Nam Filius Dei est contra Hebionem, Filius David; Filius Dei ea contra Paulum → Filius Dei est contra Paulum; 570 Fillus David est eontra → Filius David est contra; Filius Cet cst contra Arium → Filius Dei est contra Arium; crroris h:<'redes: Dominus David fst contra Judtfos → erroris hæredes: Dominus David est contra Judæos; in cante cerneates → in carne cernentes; impio rUe rore → impio errore; Ecclesiastic:! fide → Ecclesiastica fide; creatura'; → creaturæ;; secondum quod scriptum est: VI sine Deo → secundum quod scriptum est: Ut sine Deo; gustarel → gustaret; igiltur → igitur; substan- Liam → substantiam; sasceptionem carnis Filium noHnnar! → susceptionem carnis Filium nominari; gen''r:'tionem → generationem; æquatis es! Filius → æqualis est Filius; suscep­ t!onem → susceptionem; formatu servi, Inquit (Phil. iI, 7}, acc eptt: unus tamen atqne tdetn → formam servi, inquit (Phil. ii, 7), accepit: unus tamen atque idem; patilar­ ehse David → patriarchæ David; gloriam snam → gloriam suam; filios ext, c non deliciens it se → filius est, non deficiens a se; 108 Nec solum → Nec solum; hi persona hominis; f sed ctiam → in persona hominis; sed etiam; sevum meum → servum meum; finxil → finxit; Magnum lib; eat vocari → Magnum tibi est vocari; uto sis → ut sis; (E<a< SuxI, 6 et seq.) → (Esai. XLIX, 6 et seq.); furma Dei → forma Dei; t09. Disce → Disce; perfecUonis → perfectionis; Illustra Jactent tuam super a servum tuum → Illustra faciem tuam super servum tuum; et at compendio → et ut compendio; hahet, sicutscriptum est: 0 Domine → habet, sicut scriptum est: O Domine; nimi. (Psa/. → nimis (Psa/.; peccatore. con­ stituti → peccatores constituti; bostiam laudis? 111). Sed si → hostiam laudis? Sed si; animam miam → animam meam; ill inferno → in inferno; ( Psal. xv, iU ). idem ergo → ( Psal. xv, 10 ). Idem ergo; Da pOlles'atem → Da potestatem; Eze­ chie!e → Ezechiele; pr<ncep< → princeps; ( Ezech. XliV, 25, 24) → ( Ezech. XXXIV, 23, 24); ilaque → itaque; formam bominis → formam hominis; corporatis ventris → corporalis ventris; nundum impletum tit → nondum impletum est; Cla­ rificatus eat Filius → Clarificatus est Filius; !eghnus: Et Deus c/arificatus est tM eo → legimus: Et Deus clarificatus est in eo; quaestionis. ubi et F!. lius → quæstionis, ubi et Filius; Trini­ tatisaperiret, eliam ab SpirUu → Trinitatis aperiret, etiam ab Spiritu; c/arifica­ bit → clarificabit; Si tgo clarificavero tile ipsum, claritas mea nihilum eat (Joan. VIII, S4 ) → Si ego clarificavero me ipsum, claritas mea nihil est (Joan. VIII, 54 ); ctaritas Filii → claritas Filii; cnm­ paratione divinitaUs → comparatione divinitatis; 115 Desinant → Desinant; clarificatus, eat Filius → clarificatus est Filius; est ill eo → est in eo; bominis, ille → hominis, ille; calumnitur → calumniatur; calicem 571 → calicem; ). b → )..

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Fid. 5.8 (PL 16:627c!–629c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ambrose-fide/5-8/#p-5-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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5.9PL 16:629c–630b

Quid quod etiam more Ju­ daico falsi et impudentes interpretes Ariani verborum sunt divinorum, dicentes usque adeo aliam Patris, aliam Filii, aliam Spiritus sancti esse potesta­ tem, ut scriptum sit: Ite, docete omnes gentes, baptizantes eos in nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus sancti ( Matth. XXVIII, 19); et ex verborum ordine differen­ tiam divinæ faciunt potestatis? Ego autem licet hoc ipsum testimonium in superioribus libris pro unitate asseruerim majestatis ac nominis, tamen si hinc faciunt quæstionem, pos­ sum testimoniis asserere Scripturarum in plerisque locis prius Filium nominatum, postea Patrem dictum. Numquid igitur quia Filii significatio ante præ­ missa est, verborum, ut Ariani volunt, præjudicio Pater secundus a Filio est? Absit, inquam, absit. Nescit hunc ordinem fides, nescit discretum Patris et Filii honorem. Non legi, non audivi, nec aliquem in Deo inveni gradum. Nusquam secundum, nus­ quam tertium Deum legi: primum legi, primum ac solum audivi ( Esai XLIV, 6). Si ordinis exigimus superstitionem, nec ad dexteram Patris sedere Filius debet, nec primum se et principium debuit dicere. Male ergo Evangelista prius a Verbo, quam a Deo cœpit, dicens: In prin­ cipio erat Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum ( Joan. I, 1 ). Etenim juxta humani usus ordinem, prius Pa­ trem debuit nominare. Nescivit etiam Apostolus or­ dinem, qui ait: Paulus servus Christi Jesu, vocatus apostolus, segregatus in Evangelium Dei ( Rom. I, 1 ); et alibi: Gratia Domini nostri Jesu Christi, et charitas Dei, et communicatio Spiritus sancti (I! Cor. XIII, i5). Si verborum persequamur ordinem, in primo Filium posuit, in secundo Patrem. Sed verborum ordo sæpe mutatur; et ideo non debes vel de ordine, vel de gradu Patri Deo et Filio ejus facere quæstionem, cum secundum divinitatem divisio nulla sit unitatis.

What of the fact that the Arians, false and shameless interpreters of the divine words in the Jewish manner, say that the power of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit is different, because it is written, “Go, teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,” and from the order of the words they make a difference of divine power? But although in the earlier books I have claimed this very testimony for the unity of majesty and of name, yet if they raise a question from it, I can show from testimonies of the Scriptures that in very many places the Son is named first and the Father afterwards. Is the Father, then, second to the Son by a prejudice of words, as the Arians would have it, because the mention of the Son was put first? Far be it, I say, far be it. Faith does not know this order; it does not know a separated honor of the Father and the Son. I have not read, I have not heard, nor have I found any rank in God. Nowhere have I read of a second God, nowhere of a third: I have read of the first; I have heard of the first and only. If we demand a superstitious observance of order, the Son ought not to sit at the right hand of the Father, nor should he have called himself the first and the beginning. Then the Evangelist did wrong to begin with the Word rather than with God, saying, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God.” For according to human usage he ought to have named the Father first. The Apostle too did not know the order, when he says: “Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle, set apart for the Gospel of God”; and elsewhere: “The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit.” If we follow the order of words, in the first he put the Son, in the second the Father. But the order of words is often changed; and so you ought not to raise a question about order or rank between God the Father and his Son, since according to divinity there is no division of the unity.

Matt 28:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 44:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Rev 22:13 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 13:14 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Ambrose answers the Arian argument from the order of names in the baptismal formula by showing that Scripture often names the Son before the Father.

  • The digital text begins this chapter with the end of Migne’s chapter summary, a paragraph number, and his note of another chapter division, removed by a logged correction. Quotations and allusions: Matt 28:19; Isa 44:6; Rev 22:13; John 1:1; Rom 1:1; 2 Cor 13:14.

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  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; end of Migne's chapter summary, paragraph number and note of another chapter division; inline footnote letter or column number of the digitization; paragraph number): In nomine Patris et Filii et Spirims sancli, objicientibus, prœter re­ sponsum quod vir sanCtU' indicat a se jam datum, regerit etiam Filium ante Patrem sœpe locari. 116 [ Alias cap.!V.] → ; verbo­ rnm → verborum; aliam f'ilii → aliam Filii; lie, docete omnes gente, bapti­ zantes eo. in nomine Patri. et Filii et Spiritua sancti → Ite, docete omnes gentes, baptizantes eos in nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus sancti; in p'erisque → in plerisque; di­ etum → dictum; Patris ct Filii → Patris et Filii; Non tegi, non audivi, nec atiqucm → Non legi, non audivi, nec aliquem; 118 Si ordinis → Si ordinis; nee primum se tt principium → nec primum se et principium; ( Joan. t, 1 ).Etenim juxta humani rius → ( Joan. I, 1 ). Etenim juxta humani usus; ( Rom. I, i ); ct alibi → ( Rom. I, 1 ); et alibi; ordinc, vel de gradu P;'tri Deo et Filio ej"s faccre → ordine, vel de gradu Patri Deo et Filio ejus facere; ordinem, a → ordinem,.

Topics: Trinity, Baptism

Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Fid. 5.9 (PL 16:629c–630b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ambrose-fide/5-8/#p-5-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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5.10PL 16:630b–631c

Ad extremum ut christianos se non esse ma­ nifestent, negant in Christum esse credendum, di­ centes scriptum esse: Qui in me credit, non credit in me, sed in eum qui me misit (Joan. XII, 44 ). Hanc ego exspectabam confessionem, quid me quibusdam ambagibus ludebatis? Sciebam mihi adversum gen­ tiles esse contentionem: sed illi convertuntur, vos non convertimini. Illi si credant, salvum est sa­ cramentum: vos perdidistis acceptum; et nec coe­ ptum fortasse, sed fictum. Scriptum est, inquiunt: Qui in Me credit, non in me credit, sed in eum qui me misit. Sed videte quid sequatur, et videte sic quemadmodum se Dei Filius vult videri; sequitur enim: Et qui videt me, videt eum qui me misit ( Joan. XII, 45), hoc est, quia Pater videtur in Filio. Exposuit igitur id quod ante præmisit, quia ille credit in Filium, qui confi­ tetur et Patrem. Nam qui Filium nescit, nec Patrem novit; omnis enim qui negat Filium, nec Patrem habet: qui confitetur Filium, et Filium, et Patrem habet. Quid est ergo: Non credit in me? Non in id quod corporaliter cernitis, non in hominem tantum­ modo, quem videtis: non enim in hominem tan­ tummodo credendum asseruit, sed ut credas quia Jesus Christus ipse est Dei Filius et homo. Propter quod et utrumque ait: A meipso non veni; et alibi: Ego sum principium quod et loquor vobis ( Joan. VIII, 25 ). Quasi homo, a se non venit: quasi Dei Filius non ex homine principium habet: sed sum, inquit, ipse principium quod et loquor vobis (Joan. xn, 46): neque humana, sed divina sunt, quæ locutus sum. Neque enim fas est credere quod negaverit in se esse credendum, cum ipse dixerit: Ut omnis qui credit in me, in tenebris non maneat; et alibi: Hæc est enim voluntas Patris mei qui me misit, ut omnis qui videt Filium et credit in eum, habeat vitam œternam; et alibi: Creditis in Deum, et in me credite ( JOaM. XIV, i ). Nemo ergo Filium sine Patre accipiat, quia Filium legimus. Habet Patrem Filius, sed non temporalem, non ex passione, non ex conceptione, non ex gratia. Generationem legi, non legi conce­ ptionem. Et Pater dicit, genui ( Psat. II, 7); non dicit, creavi: et Filius non creatorem suum Deum secundum æternitatem divinæ generationis, sed Pa­ trem nominat. Se quoque nunc ex persona hominis, nunc in Dei majestate significat: nunc unitatem sibi divinitatis cum Deo Patre vindicans, nunc fragilitatem humanæ carnis assumens: nunc doctrinam suam se non habere, nunc voluntatem suam se non quærere: nunc testimonium suum verum non esse, nunc ve­ rum esse significans. Nam ipse dixit: Si ego testi­ monium perhibeo de me ipso, testimonium meum non est verum ( Joan. v, 31 ). Et ipse in posterioribus ait: Et si ego testimonium perhibeo de me, verum est te­ stimonium meum ( Joan. VII, 14 ). Quomodo igitur non est verum testimonium tuum, Domine Jesu, cui qui credidit, in cruce licet positus, et inter confessi sceleris supplicia constitutus, merita latronis exuit, præmia innocentis eme­ ruit ( Luc, XXIII, 4i et seq. )? Deceptus est ergo Paulus, qui ideo recepit oculos, quia credidit, quos amiserat, antequam crederet ( Act, IX, i8)? Erravitne etiam Jesus Nave, qui ducem militiæ cœlestis agnovit? Sed posteaquam credidit, statim vicit, dignus qui fidei prælio trium­ pharet. Denique non æratas acies in bella produxit, nec ariete, caeterisque tormentorum machinis, sed tubarum septem sacerdotalium sono, murorum ho­ stilium septa deposuit. Ita bellum immane confecit tubæ clangor, et infula sacerdotis (Josue VI). Vidit hoc meretrix, et quæ in excidio civi­ tatis remedia desperaret salutis, quia fides vicerat, signa fidei atque vexilla Dominicæ passionis attol­ lens, coccum in fenestra ligavit; ut species cruoris mystici quæ foret mundum redemptura, vernaret ( Josue n). Ita foris Jesu nomen fuit præliantibus ad victoriam, intus species Dominicæ passionis pe­ riclitantibus ad salutem. Unde quia intellexit Rahab cœleste mysterium, dicit Dominus in psalmo. Memor ero Rahab et Babylonis, scientium me ( Piat. LXXXVI. 4 ). Quomodo ergo non est verum testimonium tuum, Domine, nisi secundum fragilitatem homi­ num? Omnis enim homo mendax ( Psal. civ, 2 ). Denique ut secundum hominem dixisse se demonstraret, ait: Qui misit me Pater, ipse testi­ monium perhibet de me ( Joan. VIII, i8). Verum autem est testimonium secundum divinitatem, sicut ipse ait: Et verum est testimonium meum; quia scio unde veni, et quo vado; vos autem nescitis unde veni, et quo vado. Vos secundum carnem judicatis (Ibid., XIV, i5). Non ergo secundum divinitatem, sed secun­ dum hominem judicant, qui putant Christo testificandi scientiam defuisse. Ergo cum audis: Qui credit in me, non credit in me; et: Qui misit me Pater, ipse mihi mandatum dedit; didicisti a quo id putes esse referendum. Denique mandatum quod esset, ostendit dicens: Pono animam meam, ut iterum sumam illam. Nemo tollit eam a me, sed ego pono eam a me ipso ( Joan. VI, i7 et seq. ). Vides ideo dictum, ut ostenderet liberam sibi ponendæ ac resumendae animæ potestatem, sicut ipse dixit: Potestatem habeo ponendi eam, et potestatem habeo iterum sumendi eam. Hoc mandatum accepi a Patre meo (Ibid.). Sive igitur mandatum, sive, ut aliqui Latini codices habent, præceptum, non utique secundum divinitatem, sed secundum incarnationem datur, ad subeundæ victoriam passionis.

Finally, to show that they are not Christians, they deny that one must believe in Christ, saying that it is written: “He who believes in me does not believe in me, but in him who sent me.” This is the confession I was waiting for; why did you trifle with me by roundabout ways? I knew that my contest was against pagans; but they are converted, you are not. If they believe, the sacrament is safe; you have lost what you received, and perhaps it was not even begun but feigned. “It is written,” they say: “He who believes in me does not believe in me, but in him who sent me.” But see what follows, and see how the Son of God wishes to be seen; for it goes on: “And he who sees me sees him who sent me”; that is, because the Father is seen in the Son. He explained, then, what he had said before: that he believes in the Son who confesses the Father too. For he who does not know the Son does not know the Father either; for everyone who denies the Son does not have the Father; he who confesses the Son has both the Son and the Father. What, then, is “does not believe in me”? Not in what you see bodily, not only in the man whom you see; for he did not declare that one should believe in a man only, but that you should believe that Jesus Christ himself is the Son of God and man. For this reason he says both, “I have not come of myself,” and elsewhere, “I am the beginning, who also speak to you.” As man he did not come of himself; as Son of God he does not have his beginning from man; but “I am,” he says, “the beginning, who also speak to you”; and the things I have spoken are not human but divine. For it is not permitted to believe that he denied that one must believe in him, since he himself said: “That everyone who believes in me may not remain in darkness”; and elsewhere: “For this is the will of my Father who sent me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in him may have eternal life”; and elsewhere: “You believe in God; believe also in me.” Let no one, then, take the Son without the Father, because we read “Son.” The Son has a Father, but not a temporal one, not by passion, not by conception, not by grace. I have read of generation; I have not read of conception. And the Father says, “I have begotten,” not, “I have created”; and the Son, according to the eternity of the divine generation, names God not his creator but his Father. He speaks of himself now in the person of man, now in the majesty of God: now claiming for himself the unity of divinity with God the Father, now taking on the frailty of human flesh; now saying that he does not have his own teaching, now that he does not seek his own will; now that his testimony is not true, now that it is true. For he himself said: “If I bear witness of myself, my testimony is not true.” And he himself says later: “Even if I bear witness of myself, my testimony is true.” How, then, Lord Jesus, is your testimony not true, when the man who believed it, though set on a cross and placed among the punishments of a confessed crime, put off the deserts of a robber and won the rewards of an innocent man? Was Paul deceived, then, who received back his eyes because he believed, having lost them before he believed? Did Jesus son of Nave err too, who recognized the commander of the heavenly army? But as soon as he had believed, he conquered, worthy to triumph in the battle of faith. Indeed he did not lead out bronze-clad lines to war, nor bring down the circuit of the enemy walls with the ram and the other siege engines, but by the sound of seven priestly trumpets. So the blast of the trumpet and the priest’s fillet finished a monstrous war. The harlot saw this, and she who in the destruction of the city despaired of any means of safety, because faith had conquered, raised the signs of faith and the standards of the Lord’s passion and tied scarlet in the window, so that the likeness of the mystic blood which was to redeem the world might flourish. So outside, the name of Jesus was there for the combatants unto victory; inside, the likeness of the Lord’s passion for those in danger unto salvation. Hence, because Rahab understood the heavenly mystery, the Lord says in the psalm: “I will be mindful of Rahab and Babylon, who know me.” How, then, is your testimony not true, Lord, except according to the frailty of men? For “every man is a liar.” Indeed, to show that he had spoken as man, he says: “The Father who sent me bears witness to me.” But according to the divinity the testimony is true, as he himself says: “And my testimony is true, because I know whence I came and whither I go; but you do not know whence I come or whither I go. You judge according to the flesh.” Those, then, who think that Christ lacked the knowledge to bear witness judge not according to his divinity but according to the man. So when you hear, “He who believes in me does not believe in me,” and, “The Father who sent me has given me a commandment,” you have learned to what you should think it refers. Indeed he showed what the commandment was, saying: “I lay down my life, that I may take it again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of myself.” You see that it was said to show that he had free power to lay down his life and take it up again, as he himself said: “I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment I received from my Father.” Whether, then, it is “commandment” or, as some Latin manuscripts have it, “precept,” it is given not according to the divinity but according to the incarnation, for the victory of the passion that he was to undergo.

John 12:44 (quotation, high confidence) · John 12:45 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 John 2:23 (allusion, high confidence) · John 8:42 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:25 (quotation, high confidence) · John 12:46 (quotation, high confidence) · John 6:40 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 2:7 (allusion, high confidence) · John 7:16 (allusion, high confidence) · John 6:38 (allusion, high confidence) · John 5:31 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 23:43 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 9:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Josh 5:14 (allusion, high confidence) · Josh 6:20 (allusion, high confidence) · Josh 2:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 87:4 (86:4 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 116:11 (115:2 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:18 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:15 (quotation, high confidence) · John 12:49 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:17 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:18 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Ambrose explains John 12:44 (“he who believes in me does not believe in me”) and the sayings about Christ’s testimony and the Father’s commandment as spoken in his human person, while his divine testimony is true.

  • Quotations and allusions: John 12:44–45; 1 John 2:23; John 8:42; John 8:25; John 12:46; John 6:40; John 14:1; Ps 2:7; John 7:16; John 6:38; John 5:31; John 8:14; Luke 23:40–43; Acts 9:18; Josh 5:14; Josh 6; Josh 2:18–21 (the scarlet cord, read as a figure of Christ’s blood); Ps 87:4 (LXX 86:4); Ps 116:11 (LXX 115:2); John 8:18; John 8:14–15; John 12:49; John 10:17–18.

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  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; inline footnote letter and OCR slip; inline footnote letter or column number of the digitization; paragraph number): se nou esse → se non esse; Qui in me o edit, non credit ire me, sed in eum qui me!!!!!« (JoaM. XII, 44 ). HanC → Qui in me credit, non credit in me, sed in eum qui me misit (Joan. XII, 44 ). Hanc; ambagibus Indebatis → ambagibus ludebatis; lIIi si credant → Illi si credant; nom ill me credit, sed in eum qui nio misit → non in me credit, sed in eum qui me misit; quid sequamr → quid sequatur; EI qui videt rae, videt eum qui Me misit → Et qui videt me, videt eum qui me misit; necPatrem → nec Patrem; 121 Quid est ergo → Quid est ergo; Nf'n in id → Non in id; Chrisms → Christus; uon veni → non veni; sed sum, inqui), ipse principiumquod → sed sum, inquit, ipse principium quod; credundum → credendum; VI omni, qui credit → Ut omnis qui credit; Hœc eat enim voluntas Patria mei qui me n!<­ ait → Hæc est enim voluntas Patris mei qui me misit; Creditis ill Deum → Creditis in Deum; quia Filium tegimus → quia Filium legimus; temporaiem → temporalem; conceptiooc → conceptione; d!­ vinitatis → divinitatis; doctrinam su:'m → doctrinam suam; significans, Nam ipse → significans. Nam ipse; testimOniuM MeuM → testimonium meum; non cst verum → non est verum; posims → positus; constitu­ lUs → constitutus; mi­ litie → militiæ; posteaqua.n → posteaquam; nOli aeratas acics → non æratas acies; tub'rum → tubarum; i28. Vidit hoc meretrix → Vidit hoc meretrix; cxcidio → excidio; b Ila foris → Ita foris; coe'este → cœleste; Me­ mor ero Ruhab el Babylonis → Memor ero Rahab et Babylonis; att: Qui misit → ait: Qui misit; Verum au­ ton est → Verum autem est; EI verum est → Et verum est; testili­ candi → testificandi; Qui credit in M!e, t)on credit ill me → Qui credit in me, non credit in me; Poter, ipse → Pater, ipse; Denhjue mandatum quod csset,ustend)t → Denique mandatum quod esset, ostendit; iter M)tt sumam illam → iterum sumam illam; aed ego pono → sed ego pono; dicum, ut psten­ derct → dictum, ut ostenderet; poneM­ di eam, « potestatem → ponendi eam, et potestatem; codicesbabent → codices habent; contentionem: 573 → contentionem:; credidit, 574 → credidit,; secundum b → secundum.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Fid. 5.10 (PL 16:630b–631c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ambrose-fide/5-8/#p-5-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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5.11PL 16:631c–632p

An vero in hanc humilitatem Dei Filium deducemus, ut nisi quæ audierit, facere aliquid aut loqui nesciat: et præscriptam agendi loquendi­ que ei putemus esse mensuram, quia scriptum est: Ex me ipso non sum locutus ( Joan. XII, 49); et in­ fra: Sicut dixit mihi Pater, ita loquor ( Ibid. 50)? Sed ad obedientiam carnis, aut ad fidem unitatis ista referantur. Plerique enim doctiores et audire Filium, et dicere aliquid Filio Patrem accipiunt per unitatem naturæ, quod enim per unitatem voluntatis novit Filius Patrem velle, videtur audisse. Unde non officium corporale, sed arbitrium indissociabile cooperationis declaratur; neque enim verborum hic aliquem significat auditum, sed uni­ tatem voluntatis atque virtutis, quæ et in Patre est et in Filio. Quam etiam in Spiritu sancto esse memo­ ravit alio loco, dicens: Non enim loquetur a se, sed quæcumque audit, loquetur; ut adver­ teremus quia quidquid Spiritus loquitur, loquitur et Filius: et quidquid loquitur Filius, loquitur et Pater; quia una sententia et operatio Trinitatis est. Sicut enim Pater videtur in Filio, non utique specie corporali, sed unitate divinitatis; ita etiam Pater loquitur in Filio, non temporali voce, nec corporali sono, sed operis unitate. Denique cum dixisset: Pater qui in me manet, ipse loquitur: et opera quœ ego facio, ipse facit; addidit: Credite mihi, quia ego in Patre, et Pater in me est. Alioquin propter opera ipsa credite (Joa!<. xu, 60; x)y, 50). Hic intellectus est noster secundum divina­ rum seriem Scripturarum: Ariani autem qui nolunt de Deo aestimare quæ digna sunt, vel apto suis me­ ritis confutentur exemplo, ne totum carnaliter cre­ dant; cum ipsi patris sui diaboli opera incorporaliter videant. Sicut de eorum consortibus Judæis Dominus declaravit dicens: Vos quod vidistis patrem vestrum facientem, facitis ( Joan. VIII, 38); cum utique non quia diabolum operantem viderint, sed quia arbi­ tria ejus fecerint, arguantur, invisibiliter in his se­ cundum iniquitatem suam diabolo operante peccatum. Hoc secundum Apostolum propter insipientiam posuimus perfidorum. Caeterum satis probatum est Scripturarum exemplis ad unitatem majestatis pertinere divinæ, quod et Pater maneat in Filio; et ea quæ loquitur Filius, a Patre videatur audisse. Unitatem autem majestatis quibus aliis possumus intelligere, quam quod eadem Patri et Filio deferuntur? Nam quid præcellentius potest dici, quam quod Apostolus dixit Dominum majestatis crucifixum? Filius ergo est et Deus majestatis, et Domi­ nus majestatis; sed non creaturis subjecta majestas: non ergo creatura Filius. Filius paternae est imago substantiæ: omnis autem creatura dissimilis supernæ substantiæ, sed non dissimilis Dei Patris Filius: non ergo creatura Filius. Filius non rapinam arbitratus est esse se æqualem Deo (Phil. u, C): sed nulla creatura æqualis Deo, æqualis autem Filius: non ergo crea­ tura Filius. Omnis creatura mutabilis: sed non mutabilis Dei Filius: non ergo creatura Dei Filius. Omnis creatura accidentia et boni et mali recipit suæ capacitate naturæ, eademque decessionem sentit: Dei autem Filio nihil potest ex ejus divinitate vel decedere vel accedere: non ergo crea­ tura Dei Filius. Omne opus suum adducet Deus in judicium (EccL XII, 14), sed Dei Filius non adducitur in judicium; quia ipse judicat: non ergo creatura Dei Filius. Postremo ut unitatem intelligas, de ovibus dicens Salvator: Nullus, inquit, rapit eas de manu mea. Pater quod dedit mihi, majus omnibus est, et nemo potest rapere de manu Patris mei. Ego et Pater unum sumus (Joan. x, i9, 50). Sic vivificat Filius, ut Pater: Sicut enim Pater suscitat mortuos et vivificat; sic et Filius quos vult, vivificat. Sic suscitat Filius, ut Pater: sic conservat Filius, ut Pater. Qui non impar est gratia, quomodo impar est potestate? Sic etiam non perdit Filius, ut Pater. Et ideo ne quis vel duos deos crederet, vel discretionem potestatis induceret, unum se esse cum Patre dixit. Id quemadmodum potest dicere creatura? Non ergo creatura Dei Filius est. Non idem est regnare et servire: Christus autem et rex est et filius regis: non ergo servus est Dei Filius. Omnis autem creatura servit; sed non servit Dei Filius, qui ex servis filios Dei facit: non ergo creatura Dei Filius.

Or shall we bring the Son of God down to such lowliness that he cannot do anything or say anything except what he has heard, and shall we think that a measure of acting and speaking was prescribed for him, because it is written, “I have not spoken of myself,” and further on, “As the Father said to me, so I speak”? But let these be referred either to the obedience of the flesh or to the faith of unity. For many of the more learned understand both the Son’s hearing and the Father’s saying something to the Son as being through unity of nature; for what the Son knows, through unity of will, that the Father wills, he seems to have heard. Hence what is declared is not a bodily function but an indissoluble judgment of cooperation; for he signifies here not any hearing of words but the unity of will and power which is both in the Father and in the Son. He mentioned in another place that this is in the Holy Spirit too, saying: “For he will not speak of himself, but whatever he hears he will speak”; so that we might notice that whatever the Spirit speaks, the Son also speaks, and whatever the Son speaks, the Father also speaks; because the mind and operation of the Trinity is one. For as the Father is seen in the Son, not by bodily appearance but by unity of divinity, so also the Father speaks in the Son, not by a temporal voice nor by a bodily sound, but by unity of work. Indeed, when he had said, “The Father who abides in me, he speaks; and the works that I do, he does,” he added: “Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father in me; otherwise believe for the sake of the works themselves.” This is our understanding, following the sequence of the divine Scriptures; but the Arians, who will not think of God what is worthy of him, let them be refuted at least by an example fitting their deserts, so that they may not believe everything carnally, since they themselves see the works of their father the devil without any body. As the Lord declared of their associates the Jews, saying: “You do what you have seen your father doing”; though they are certainly accused not because they saw the devil working, but because they did his will, the devil invisibly working sin in them according to his wickedness. This, as the Apostle says, we have put in because of the folly of the faithless. Otherwise, it has been sufficiently proved by examples from the Scriptures that it belongs to the unity of the divine majesty that the Father abides in the Son, and that the things the Son speaks he seems to have heard from the Father. And in what other way can we understand the unity of majesty than in the fact that the same things are ascribed to the Father and the Son? For what more excellent can be said than what the Apostle said, that the Lord of majesty was crucified? The Son, then, is both God of majesty and Lord of majesty; but majesty is not subject to creatures; the Son, then, is not a creature. The Son is the image of the Father’s substance; but every creature is unlike the supreme substance, while the Son is not unlike God the Father; the Son, then, is not a creature. The Son did not think it robbery to be equal with God; but no creature is equal to God, while the Son is equal; the Son, then, is not a creature. Every creature is changeable; but the Son of God is not changeable; the Son of God, then, is not a creature. Every creature, by the capacity of its nature, admits accidents of good and evil and experiences their departure; but nothing can depart from the Son of God, or be added to him, in his divinity; the Son of God, then, is not a creature. God will bring every work of his into judgment; but the Son of God is not brought into judgment, for he himself judges; the Son of God, then, is not a creature. Finally, so that you may understand the unity, the Savior says of the sheep: “No one,” he says, “has snatched them from my hand. What the Father has given me is greater than all, and no one can snatch them from the hand of my Father. I and the Father are one.” The Son gives life as the Father does: “For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom he will.” The Son raises as the Father does; the Son preserves as the Father does. How is he who is not unequal in grace unequal in power? So too the Son does not let perish, as the Father does not. And so, lest anyone should believe in two gods or bring in a distinction of power, he said that he was one with the Father. How can a creature say that? The Son of God, then, is not a creature. To reign and to serve are not the same; but Christ is both king and the son of a king; the Son of God, then, is not a servant. Every creature serves; but the Son of God, who makes sons of God out of servants, does not serve; the Son of God, then, is not a creature.

John 12:49 (quotation, high confidence) · John 12:50 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:13 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:10 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:11 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:38 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:44 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 11:17 (echo, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 2:8 (allusion, high confidence) · Heb 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Eccl 12:14 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:22 (allusion, high confidence) · John 10:28 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:29 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:30 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 72:1 (71:1 Vulg.) (echo, medium confidence)

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Summary: Ambrose explains that the Son’s speaking what he hears from the Father expresses their unity of will, and gives a series of arguments that the Son is not a creature.

  • The digital text begins this chapter with Migne’s chapter summary and his note of another chapter division, removed by a logged correction. Quotations and allusions: John 12:49–50; John 16:13; John 14:10–11; John 8:38, 44; 2 Cor 11:17; 1 Cor 2:8; Heb 1:3; Phil 2:6; Eccl 12:14; John 5:22; John 10:28–30; John 5:21; Ps 72:1 (king and son of a king).

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  • Digital text corrected (Migne's chapter summary and his note of another chapter division; OCR slip; OCR slip and column number; OCR slips and inline footnote letter; column number; inline footnote letter; inline footnote letter or column number of the digitization; paragraph number): Christus legatu' nihil « se loqui, hoc refer endum ad ipsius humanitatem. Quomodo etiam secundum divinita­ tem audire uc ridere Patrem recte dicatur, exposito, Dei Filium creaturam Hon esse multis coacer vatis argu­ mentis evincit. [Alias Cap. V.] → ; deducemus, III nisi quæ audierit, facere alii loqui nesci.'t → deducemus, ut nisi quæ audierit, facere aliquid aut loqui nesciat; pulemus → putemus; scriptutn → scriptum; dixit mill; Pater, ila loquor ( Ibid. 5U) → dixit mihi Pater, ita loquor ( Ibid. 50); obedic!'ti:)m carnis, aut ad Udcm unitatis → obedientiam carnis, aut ad fidem unitatis; PaHrem accipiunt per $75 unitatem → Patrem accipiunt per unitatem; Patrem veHe → Patrem velle; art'itrium → arbitrium; hie aliquem → hic aliquem; in Palreest → in Patre est; NoM enim → Non enim; audit. loquetur → audit, loquetur; quidqxid → quidquid; loquitur ct Pater; qnia d una setnentia → loquitur et Pater; quia una sententia; specie cor­ porati → specie corporali; ita enam Paterto­ quitur in Filio! non temporali voce, nee corporali → ita etiam Pater loquitur in Filio, non temporali voce, nec corporali; dixisset: e Pater qui → dixisset: Pater qui; opera quœ ego jacio → opera quœ ego facio; in me fit. Alioquin → in me est. Alioquin; quæ digna sum, vel apto → quæ digna sunt, vel apto; Vo< quod vidistis po<reM< vestrum facientem. facitis → Vos quod vidistis patrem vestrum facientem, facitis; diabutum → diabolum; Hoc seeundum → Hoc secundum; exemylis → exemplis; divinæ,quod → divinæ, quod; fIlius → Filius; qnam quod → quam quod; præcellemius → præcellentius; Domiuum → Dominum; oon creaturis → non creaturis; Fihua → Filius; superuæ → supernæ; non ergo creatura F'Hus → non ergo creatura Filius; æqualem Pen → æqualem Deo; æqualis pep, a qualis autem → æqualis Deo, æqualis autem; mma­ bilis → mutabilis; bou< et pali → boni et mali; naturæ,eademque → naturæ, eademque; Filio nihil 576 potest → Filio nihil potest; decedere vel accedere: nun ergo → decedere vel accedere: non ergo; Rei Filius → Dei Filius; III unitatem' → ut unitatem; Saivalnr → Salvator; rupit cas → rapit eas; omnibus eat → omnibus est; manu I'atria met → manu Patris mei; Fitis → Filius; vei discretionem → vel discretionem; i45. Non idem → Non idem; tUus regis → filius regis; Omnia autem creatura servit; sed nov servit → Omnis autem creatura servit; sed non servit; facil: nun ergo creatur a Dei → facit: non ergo creatura Dei; indissociabile c → indissociabile; quia f → quia.

Topics: Christology, Trinity

Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Fid. 5.11 (PL 16:631c–632p; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ambrose-fide/5-8/#p-5-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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5.12PL 16:632p–633b

Divine itaque illam parabolam induxit divitis, qui in regionem longinquam profectus est accipere regnum et reverti (Luc. xn. 12), se ipsum secundum substantiam divinitatis incorporationisque descri­ bens, Ipse enim dives secundum plenitudinem divi­ nitatis, qui pro nobis pauper factus est, cum dives esset et rex æternus, et æterno rege progenitus: peregre profectus secundum corporis susceptionem; quia vias hominis tamquam iter ingressus alienum, ve­ nit in hunc mundum, ut regnum sibi pararet ex nobis. Venit ergo Jesus in hanc terram regnum ac­ cipere de nobis, quibus ait: Regnum Dei intra vos est. Hoc est regnum quod Christus accepit, hoc est, quod Patri tradidit. Nam quomodo regnum accepit, qui erat rex sempiternus? Venit ergo Filius hominis accipere regnum et reverti. Noluerunt eum suscipere Judæi, de quibus ait: Illi qui noluerunt me regnare super se, adducite et inter ficite eos (Luc. x;x, 27). Sequamur Scripturarum ordinem. Ille qui venit, regnum Deo Patri tradet: et cum tradiderit re­ gnum, tunc et ipse subjectus erit ei, qui sibi subjecit omnia; ut sit Deus omnia et in omnibus (I Cor. xv, 24, 28). Si ut Filius hominis regnum accepit Dei Fi­ lius; ut Filius utique hominis etiam traditurus est quod accepit: si ut Filius hominis tradit, ergo et ut Filius hominis subjectionem, utique per con­ ditionem carnis, non per majestatem divinitatis, ag­ noscit. Et tu ad contumeliam objicis, quod ei subje­ cerit omnia Deus; cum audias quod regnum Filius hominis Deo tradat. et ut in superioribus diximus libris, legeris: Nemo venit ad me, nisi Pater attraxe­ rit eum, et ego resuscitabo eum in novissimo die (lib. II, cap. 4)? Si litteram sequamur, vide magis atque ad­ verte unitatem honorificentiæ: et Pater subjecit Filio, et Filius Patri tradit. Dic quid sit amplius trahere, an resuscitare? Nonne secundum morem hominum ministerium trahentis, potestas est suscitantis? Sed et Filius ad Patrem trahit, et Pater ad Filium trahit: et Filius suscitat, et Pater suscitat. Facessant sacrilegæ commenta discretionis, ubi unitas po­ testatis est. Tradat igitur Patri regnum suum Filius? Non deperit Christo regnum quod tradit, sed proficit. Nos sumus regnum, quia nobis dictum est: Regnum Dei intra vos est. Et sumus re­ gnum Christi ante, postea Patris; quia scriptum est: Nemo venit ad Patrem, nisi per me. Cum in via sum, Christi sum; cum pervenero, Patris sum: sed ubique per Christum, et ubique sub Christo. Bonum est in regno Christi esse, ut Christus nobiscum sit, sicut ipse ait: Ecce ego vobiscum sum usque ad consummationem mundi. Sed melius est esse cum Christo: Dissolvi enim et cum Christo esse multo melius. Cum in hoc mundo sub peccato sumus, Christus nobiscum est; ut per unius obedientiam justi constituantur multi (Rom. v, 19). Et si peccatum hujus mundi evasero, incipiam esse cum Christo. Denique ait: Veniam iterum et assumam vos ad me (Joan. XIV, 3); et infra: Volo ut ubi ego sum et isti sint mecum. Ergo nunc sub regno Christi sumus, dum in corpore versamur, et nondum forma exuimur ser­ vi, quam ille cum se exinanivisset, accepit: cum vero gloriam ejus viderimus quam habuit priusquam mundus esset, erimus in regno Dei, in quo patriarchæ sunt et prophetae, de quibus scriptum est: Cum videritis Abraham, Isaac et Jacob, et omnes prophetas in regno Dei; ut jam pleniore Dei co­ gnitione potiamur. Sed in Filii regno et Pater regnat, et in re­ gno Patris Filius regnat, quia Pater in Filio, et in Patre Filius: et in quo habitat Filius, habitat et Pa­ ter; et in quo habitat Pater, habitat et Filius, sicut ipse ait: Ego et Pater ad eum veniemus, et apud eum mansionem faciemus. Ergo sicut una domus, ita et unum regnum. Eousque autem unum Patris et Filii regnum est, ut quod Filius tradit, Pa­ ter accipit, et quod Pater accipiat, Filius non amittat. Ergo in uno regno unitas potestatis est. Nemo igitur divinitatem inter Patrem Filiumque secernat.

In a divine way, then, he brought in that parable of the rich man who went into a far country to receive a kingdom and to return, describing himself according to the substance both of his divinity and of his incarnation. For he is rich according to the fullness of divinity, he who for us became poor though he was rich, an eternal king and born of an eternal king; he went abroad according to his taking of a body, because, entering on the ways of man as on a foreign journey, he came into this world to prepare a kingdom for himself from among us. Jesus came, then, into this earth to receive a kingdom from us, to whom he says: “The kingdom of God is within you.” This is the kingdom that Christ received; this is what he handed over to the Father. For how did he receive a kingdom, who was an eternal king? The Son of Man came, then, to receive a kingdom and to return. The Jews would not receive him, of whom he says: “Those who would not have me reign over them, bring them here and slay them.” Let us follow the order of the Scriptures. He who came will hand over the kingdom to God the Father; and when he has handed over the kingdom, then he himself will also be subject to him who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all. If the Son of God received the kingdom as Son of Man, then as Son of Man he will certainly also hand over what he received; if he hands it over as Son of Man, then as Son of Man he acknowledges subjection, through the condition of the flesh, not through the majesty of the divinity. And do you raise it as an insult that God subjected all things to him, when you hear that the Son of Man hands over the kingdom to God, and have read, as we said in the earlier books: “No one comes to me unless the Father draws him, and I will raise him up on the last day”? If we follow the letter, see rather and notice the unity of honor: the Father subjected all things to the Son, and the Son hands over to the Father. Tell me which is greater, to draw or to raise? By human custom, is not drawing a service and raising an act of power? But the Son draws to the Father and the Father draws to the Son; the Son raises and the Father raises. Away with the sacrilegious inventions of division, where there is unity of power. Let the Son, then, hand over his kingdom to the Father. The kingdom he hands over is not lost to Christ but advances. We are the kingdom, for it was said to us: “The kingdom of God is within you.” And we are the kingdom of Christ first, afterwards of the Father; for it is written: “No one comes to the Father except through me.” When I am on the way, I am Christ’s; when I have arrived, I am the Father’s; but everywhere through Christ and everywhere under Christ. It is good to be in the kingdom of Christ, so that Christ may be with us, as he himself says: “Behold, I am with you until the end of the world.” But it is better to be with Christ: “For to depart and be with Christ is far better.” While we are in this world under sin, Christ is with us, so that through the obedience of one many may be made righteous. And if I escape the sin of this world, I shall begin to be with Christ. Indeed he says, “I will come again and take you to myself,” and further on, “I will that where I am, these also may be with me.” Now, then, we are under the kingdom of Christ, while we live in the body and are not yet stripped of the form of the servant, which he took when he emptied himself; but when we see his glory, which he had before the world was, we shall be in the kingdom of God, in which are the patriarchs and prophets, of whom it is written: “When you see Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets in the kingdom of God”; so that we may then enjoy a fuller knowledge of God. But in the kingdom of the Son the Father also reigns, and in the kingdom of the Father the Son reigns, because the Father is in the Son and the Son in the Father; and in whom the Son dwells, the Father also dwells; and in whom the Father dwells, the Son also dwells, as he himself says: “I and the Father will come to him and make our dwelling with him.” As the house is one, then, so the kingdom is one. And the kingdom of the Father and the Son is one to such a degree that what the Son hands over the Father receives, and what the Father receives the Son does not lose. In one kingdom, then, there is unity of power. Let no one, then, divide the divinity between the Father and the Son.

Luke 19:12 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 8:9 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 17:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 19:27 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:24 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:28 (quotation, high confidence) · John 6:44 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 28:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 1:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 5:19 (allusion, high confidence) · John 14:3 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:7 (allusion, high confidence) · John 17:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 13:28 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:23 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Ambrose explains the parable of the nobleman who went to receive a kingdom (Luke 19) and Paul’s statement that the Son will hand over the kingdom (1 Cor 15:24–28) as referring to believers, the kingdom Christ won and presents to the Father, while the kingdom of Father and Son remains one.

  • Quotations and allusions: Luke 19:12, 14, 27; 2 Cor 8:9; Luke 17:21; 1 Cor 15:24, 28; John 6:44; John 14:6; Matt 28:20; Phil 1:23; Rom 5:19; John 14:3; John 17:24; Phil 2:7; John 17:5; Luke 13:28; John 14:23.

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  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips and inline footnote letter; column number and inline footnote letter; inline footnote letter and OCR slip; inline footnote letter or column number of the digitization; paragraph number; paragraph number and inline footnote letter): Divine ita )ue ilłam → Divine itaque illam; faptus est → factus est; perecre profectus → peregre profectus; m hunc mundum, utregnum → in hunc mundum, ut regnum; regnum W<o4 Christus accepi, hoc est, qupd Patri → regnum quod Christus accepit, hoc est, quod Patri; oui erat rei sempiternus → qui erat rex sempiternus; et'- go → ergo; etreverti Nolue­ runt → et reverti. Noluerunt; Judæi. de quibus → Judæi, de quibus; nOluerunt me regnare super It → noluerunt me regnare super se; t48. Sequamur → Sequamur; tHe qui ve­ nit → Ille qui venit; ill omnibus (I Cor. xv, iI, 28) → in omnibus (I Cor. xv, 24, 28); huminis → hominis; lit Filius utique → ut Filius utique; hominis etiam 577 traditurus est, a quod accepit → hominis etiam traditurus est quod accepit; Filis hominis → Filius hominis; tpajestatpm → majestatem; ubjicis → objicis; omnia Detis → omnia Deus; regium Filius → regnum Filius; pt ut in superioribus diximus Ii­ bris → et ut in superioribus diximus libris; et eo resuescitabo → et ego resuscitabo; yide magis → vide magis; honorificentiæ i et Peter subjecit → honorificentiæ: et Pater subjecit; tra. hMe → trahere; sacuudum moreM bo­ minum ministerium trabentis, potestas tit suscitan­ tis → secundum morem hominum ministerium trahentis, potestas est suscitantis; etPaterad Filium trahtt → et Pater ad Filium trahit; Faces.. sant sacrilegæ comotenta → Facessant sacrilegæ commenta; i50. b Tradat igitur → Tradat igitur; spd profi­ ciJ → sed proficit; dictum pst: Re­ gum → dictum est: Regnum; niM per p!e. c Cum in via sum, Cbrist! sum; cum peryeoct p, Patris sum: ses ubique → nisi per me. Cum in via sum, Christi sum; cum pervenero, Patris sum: sed ubique; is regno Christi → in regno Christi; suNi usque → sum usque; Dissolri enim et cum Chhristo → Dissolvi enim et cum Christo; d Cum hi hoc mundo → Cum in hoc mundo; ohedieptiam → obedientiam; (Rom. y, 19). Et 8' neccatum hujus nUndi evasero, incipiam esse com Christo → (Rom. v, 19). Et si peccatum hujus mundi evasero, incipiam esse cum Christo; assumam vos ad W< (Joan. MV, 5) → assumam vos ad me (Joan. XIV, 3); isti sini mecum → isti sint mecum; suh regno → sub regno; forpia exuimur → forma exuimur; esset erimus → esset, erimus; in regno Det; utjam → in regno Dei; ut jam; et in Patre Fitius → et in Patre Filius; regnun) est → regnum est; sumus, f → sumus,; igitur 578 → igitur.

Topics: Christology, Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Ambrose, Fid. 5.12 (PL 16:632p–633b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ambrose-fide/5-8/#p-5-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 16 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 10 (de Romestin, 1896); differences checked against the Latin.