On the Opinion of Dionysius 16–27

Greek text: PG 25.English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 2, vol. 4 (1892).

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Chapter 16

16PG 25:504b–505b

Ταῦτα, εἰ μὲν ἀμφιβόλως εἴρηται, χρείαν εἶχε τοῦ ὲρμηνεύοντος · ἐπειδὴ δὲ λευκῶς οιαὶ πολλάκις περὶ τῶν αὐτῶν ἔγραψεν, 6 μὲν Ἀρειος τριζέτω τοὺς ὀδόντας. ὁρῶν τήν αʼίρεσιν αὐτοῦ καταστρεφομένην ὑπὸ Διονυσίουʼ καὶ ἀκούων, ἅπερ μή βούλεται, λέγοντος αὐτοῦʼ ‹‹ Ἀεὶ 6 Θεὸς Πατὴρ ἦν, καὶ 6 Υἱὸς οὐχ ἁπλῶς ἀίδιός ἐστιν, ἀλλὰ τοῦ Πατρὸς ἀϊδίου ὄντος, ἀίδιός ἂν εἴη καὶ 6 Υἱὸς, καὶ σύνεστιν αὐτῷ ὡς τῷ φωτὶ τὸ ἀπαύγασμα. ›› Οἱ δὲ, κᾶν μόνον ὑπονοήσαντες Διονύσιον τὰ Ἀρείου φρονεῖν, κατατιθὲσθωσαν τὴν περὶ αὐτοῦ τοιαύτην δυσφημίαν. Ποία γὰρ κοινωνία τούτοις ἐστὶ, τοῦ μὲν Ἀρείου λέγοντος ο Οὐκ ἦν 6 Υἱὸς πρὶν γεννηθῇ, ἀλλʼ ἦν ποτε ὅτε οὐκ ἦν ο τοῦ δὲ Διονυσίου διδάσκοντος* ‹‹ Ὁ δέ γε Θεὸς αἰώνιόν ἐστι φῶς, οὔτε ἀρξάμενον, οὔτε λῆ- Εόν ποτε· οὐκοῦν αἰώνιον πρόκειται, καὶ σύνεστιν αὐτῷ τὸ ἀπαύγασμα, ἄναρχον καὶ ἆειγινὶς προφαινόμενον αὐτοῦ. ›› Καὶ γὰρ καὶ πρὸς τὴν ἄλλην ὑποψίαν τῶν λέγοντων, ὅτι, Πατέρα λὲγων Διονύσιος, ὀνομάζει τὸν Πατέρα ο ἀλλὰ διαιρεῖ καὶ μακρύνει καὶ μερίζει τὸν Υἱὸν ἀπὸ τοῦ ΙΙατρὸς, ἀποκρίνεται καὶ δυσωπεῖ τούτους, λέγων ἐν τῷ δευτέρῳ ιβλίῳ. Τῶν ὑπʼ ἐμοῦ λεχθέντων ὀνομάτων ἕκαστον ἀχώριστόν ἐστι καὶ ἀδιαίρετον τοῦ πλησίον Πατέρα εἷπον, καὶ πρὶν ἐπαγάγω τὸν Υἱὸν, ἐσήμανα καὶ τοῦτον ἐν τῷ Ιῐατρί· Υἱὸν ἐπήγαγον, εἰ καὶ μὴ προειρήκειν τδν Πατέρα, πάντως ἂν ὲν τῷ Υἱῷ προείληπτο ο ἅγιον Πνεῦμα προσέθηκα, ἀλλʼ ἅμα καὶ πόθεν καὶ διὰ τίνος ἧκεν ἐφήρμοσα. Οἱ δὲ οὐκ ἴσασιν, ὅτι μήτε ἀπηλλοτρίωται Πατὴρ Υἳοῦ Πατῆοι προσκαταρκτικὸν γάρ ἐστι τῆς συναφείας τὸ ὕνομα ο οὔτε 6 Υἱὸς ἀπῴκισται τοῦ Πατρός· ἢ γὰρ Πατὴρ σὶν αὐτῶν ἐστι "cci ΙΙνεῦμα, μήτε τοῦ πέμποντος, μήτε τοῦ φέροντος δυνάμενον στέρεσθαι. Πῶς οὖν ὁ τούτοῖς χρώμενος τοῖς ὀνόμασι μεμερίσθαι ταῦτα καὶ ἀφωρίσθαι παντελῶς ἀλλήλων οίομαι Ξ.» Καὶ μετʼ ὀλίγα ἀπάγει λέγων· (ί Οὕτω μὲν ἡμεῖς εἴς τε τήν Τριάδα τήν-μονάδα πλατύνομεν ἀδιαίρετον, καὶ τὴν Τριάδα πάλιν ἀμείωτον εἷς τήν μονάδα συγκεφαλαιούμεθα. ››

Tauta, ei men amphibolōs eirētai, chreian eiche tou ermēneuontos ; epeidē de leukōs oiai pollakis peri tōn autōn egrapsen, 6 men Areios trizetō tous odontas. horōn tēn aʼiresin autou katastrephomenēn hypo Dionysiouʼ kai akouōn, haper mē bouletai, legontos autouʼ ‹‹ Aei 6 Theos Patēr ēn, kai 6 Huios ouch haplōs aidios estin, alla tou Patros aïdiou ontos, aidios an eiē kai 6 Huios, kai synestin autǭ hōs tǭ phōti to apaugasma. ›› Hoi de, kan monon hyponoēsantes Dionysion ta Areiou phronein, katatithesthōsan tēn peri autou toiautēn dysphēmian. Poia gar koinōnia toutois esti, tou men Areiou legontos o Ouk ēn 6 Huios prin gennēthę̄, allʼ ēn pote hote ouk ēn o tou de Dionysiou didaskontos* ‹‹ Ho de ge Theos aiōnion esti phōs, oute arxamenon, oute lē- Eon pote; oukoun aiōnion prokeitai, kai synestin autǭ to apaugasma, anarchon kai aeiginis prophainomenon autou. ›› Kai gar kai pros tēn allēn hypopsian tōn legontōn, hoti, Patera legōn Dionysios, onomazei ton Patera o alla diairei kai makrynei kai merizei ton Huion apo tou IIatros, apokrinetai kai dysōpei toutous, legōn en tǭ deuterǭ ibliǭ. Tōn hypʼ emou lechthentōn onomatōn hekaston achōriston esti kai adiaireton tou plēsion Patera heipon, kai prin epagagō ton Huion, esēmana kai touton en tǭ Iiatri; Huion epēgagon, ei kai mē proeirēkein tdn Patera, pantōs an en tǭ Huiǭ proeilēpto o hagion Pneuma prosethēka, allʼ hama kai pothen kai dia tinos hēken ephērmosa. Hoi de ouk isasin, hoti mēte apēllotriōtai Patēr Huiou Patēoi proskatarktikon gar esti tēs synapheias to hynoma o oute 6 Huios apǭkistai tou Patros; ē gar Patēr sin autōn esti "cci IIneuma, mēte tou pempontos, mēte tou pherontos dynamenon steresthai. Pōs oun ho toutois chrōmenos tois onomasi memeristhai tauta kai aphōristhai pantelōs allēlōn oiomai X.» Kai metʼ oliga apagei legōn; (i Houtō men hēmeis eis te tēn Triada tēn-monada platynomen adiaireton, kai tēn Triada palin ameiōton heis tēn monada synkephalaioumetha. ››

If these things had been said ambiguously, they would need an interpreter; but since he wrote clearly and often about the same things, let Arius gnash his teeth, seeing his heresy overthrown by Dionysius and hearing him say what he does not want to hear: “God was always Father, and the Son is not simply eternal, but since the Father is eternal, the Son too would be eternal, and he is with him as the radiance with the light.” And let those who have so much as suspected that Dionysius held the views of Arius lay aside such defamation of him. For what fellowship is there between them, when Arius says, “The Son was not before he was begotten, but there was once when he was not,” while Dionysius teaches, “But God is eternal light, neither having begun nor ever ending; so the radiance lies before him eternally and is with him, without beginning and always begotten, shining forth before him”? For against the other suspicion too, of those who say that Dionysius, in speaking of the Father, does not name the Son …, but divides and removes and parts the Son from the Father, he answers and puts them to shame, saying in the second book: [17] “Each of the names spoken by me is inseparable and indivisible from the one next to it. I spoke of the Father, and before I brought in the Son, I signified him too in the Father. I brought in the Son; even if I had not mentioned the Father before, he would certainly have been included beforehand in the Son. I added the Holy Spirit, but at the same time I adjoined both from where and through whom he came. But they do not know that neither is the Father, as Father, estranged from the Son—for the name begins the bond between them—nor is the Son exiled from the Father; for … ; and in their hands is the Spirit, who cannot be deprived either of him who sends or of him who conveys him. How, then, could I, who use these names, think that they are divided and wholly separated from one another?” And a little later he adds: “Thus we expand the Monad indivisibly into the Triad, and again gather up the Triad without diminution into the Monad.”

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Notes and citation

Summary: Dionysius taught that the Father was always Father, and that the names Father, Son, and Spirit are inseparable: the Monad is expanded into the Triad and the Triad gathered into the Monad.

  • Chapter 17 begins at “[17]”; its numeral was lost in the scan, so it stands inside staged ref 16.
  • Dionysius of Alexandria, Refutation and Defense, book 2, quoted. Two short places in this ref are garbled in the scan and marked “…”.

Extrabiblical texts: Dionysius of Alexandria (Dionysius of Alexandria (letters and fragments); quotation)

Topics: Trinity, Christology

Cite (SBL): Athanasius, Dion. 16 (PG 25:504b–505b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/athanasius-sententia-dionysii/16/#p-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 18

18PG 25:505b–508d

Εἶτα καὶ αἰτιασαμένων αὐτὸν, ὡς ἕνα λέγοντα τῶν γενητῶν εἶναι τὸν Υἱὸν,καὶ μὴ ὁμοούσιον τῷ ΙΙατρί, αύτος πάλιν ἐν μὲν τῷ πρώτῳ βιβλίῳ τοὺς τοιούτους διελέγχει λέγων· ‹‹ Ιιλὴν ἐγὼ γενητά τινα καὶ ποιητά τινα φήσας νοεῖσθαι, τῶν μὲν τοιούτων ὡς ἀγρειοτέρων ἐξ ἐπιδρομῆς εἶπον παραδεῖγματαʼ ἐπεὶ τὸ σκάφος· εἶτα τοῖς ἱκνουμένοις καὶ προσφυεο στέροις-ἐνδιέτριψα· καί πλέον διεξῆλθον περὶ τῶν ἀληθεστέρων, ποικίλα προσεπεξευρὼν τεκμήρια, ἅπερ καὶ σοὶ διʼ ἄλλης ἐπιστολῆς ἔγραψα· ἐν οἷς ἤλεγξα καὶ ’ὁ προφέρουσιν ἔ3κλημα κατʼ ἐμοῦ ψεῦδος ὃν, ὡς ού λέγοντος τὸν Χριστὸν ὁμοούσιον εἶναι τῷ Θεῷ. Εἰ γὰρ καὶ τὸ ὄνομα τοῦτό φημι μὴ εὑρηκέναι, γονὴν παρεθέμην, δῆλον ὡς οὖσαν ὁμογενῆ · εἶναι, τὸν δὲ ποταμὸν εἶναι ἐκ τῆς πηγῆς ὕδωρ. Ἀλλὰ ταῦτα μὶν καὶ τὰ τοιαῦτα μηδὲ ὁρᾷν γεγραμμένα, ἀλλʼ οἱονεὶ τυφλώττειν ὑποκρίνονταιο τοῖς δὲ δυσὶ ῥηματίοις ἀσυνθέτοις, καθάπερ λίθοις, μακρόθεν ἐπιχειροῦσί με βαλλειν, ἀγνοοῦντες ὡς τῶν ἀγνοουμένων, καί προσαγωγῆς εἷς ἐπίγνωσιν δεομένων, οὐ μόνον ἀλλοῖα πολλάκις, ἀλλὰ καὶ ὑπεναντία τεκμήρια γίνεται τῶν ἐπιζητουμένων δηλώματα. ›› Ἐν δὲ τῷ τρίτῳ βιβλίῳ φησί. ‹‹ Ζωὴ ἐκ ζωῆς ἐγεννήθη · καὶ ὥσπερ ποταμὸς ἀπο πηγῆς €4ῥευσε·- καὶ ἀπὸ φωτὸς ἀσβέστου λαμπρὸν φῶς ἂν· ἥφθη· ν υ. )› ζ913. Τίς τούτων ἀκούων οὐ μανίας λοιπὸν καταύηφίσεται τῶν ὑπονοούντων τὸν Διονύσιον τὰ Ἀρείου φρονεῖν; ’ldobiydp διὰ τούτων φανερῶς πᾶσαν αὐτοῦ πατεῖ τὴν αʼίρεσιν τοῖς τῆς ἀληθείας λογισμοῖς. Τὸ μὲν γὰρ, Οὐκ ἦν πρὶν γεννηθῇ, καὶ τὸ, Ἦν ποτε ὅτε οὐκ ἧν,ἀναιρεῖ τῷ τοῦ ἀπαυγάσματος λόγῳο καὶ λέγε Δν, ὅτι Τούτου 6 Πατὴρ οὐκ ἦν ποτε ἄγονος· τὸ δὲ, Ἐξ οὐκ ὅντων, αὐτῶν, ἀναιρεῖ ἐν τῷ λέγειν, τὸν Λόγον εἶναι ὡς ποταμὸν ἀπὸ πηγῆς, καὶ βλαστὸν ἀπὸ ῥίζης, καί τέκνον ἀπὸ γονέως, καὶ φῶς ἐκ φωτὸς, καὶ ζωὴν ἐκ ζωῆς καὶ τὸ μὲν ἀποσχοινίζειν καὶ 8tαιρεῖν αὐτοὺς τὸν Λόγον ἀπὸ τοῦ Θεοῦ, ἀναιρεῖ λέγων αὐτὸς ἀδιαίρετον καὶ ἆμείωτον τὴν Τριάὸα εἰς μονάδα ωγκεφαλαιοῦσθαι. Τὸ δὲ λέγειν αὐτοὺς ἀλλότριον εἶναι τὸν Υἱὸν τῆς τοῦ Ιῐατρὸς οὐσίας, ἄντικρυς πατεῖ λέγων, ὁμοούσιον εἶναι τοῦ Πατρὸς τὸν Υὶόν. Ἐφʼ ᾧ καὶ θαυμάσειεν ἄν τις τήν ἀναίδειαν τῶν δυσσεβῶνο πῶς Διονυσίου, ’ὀν λέγουσιν ὁμόδοξον ἑαυτῶν εἶναι, λέγοντος ὁμοούσιον τὸν Υἱὸν, αὐτοὶ περιέρχονται ὡς κώνωπες περιβομβοῦντες, ὡς οὐκ ὀρθῶς γραψάσης τῆς συνόςου τὸ ὁμοούσιον· εἰ γὰρ Διονύσιός ἐστιν αὐτοῖς φίλος, μὴ ἀρνείσθωσαν τὰ τοῦ ὁμόφρονος, El δὲ νομίζουσι ὀρθῶς εἰρῆσθαι, πῶς τὸν τοῦ· το λέγοντα Διονύσιον θρυλλοῦσιν, ὡς τὰ αὐτῶν φρονοῦντα; μάλιστα ὅτι οὐδὲ ἐκ παρέργου ταῦτα λέο γων φαίνεται, ἀλλὰ πρότερον ἄλλας ἐπιστολὰς γράψας, τοὺς μὲν κατειρηκότας αὐτοῦ ὡς μὴ λέγοντος ὁμοοόσιον τὸν Υἳὸν τῷ Πατρί διελέγχει ψευδομένους· τοὺς δὲ νομίζοντας αὐτὸν λέγειν γενητὸν τὸν Λόγον, παρακρούεται· ὅτι μή οὕτως ὡς νομίζουσιν ἐφρόνησεν, ἀλλ εἰ καὶ τὰς λέξεις εἷʼρηκε, διὰ τοῦτό φησιν εἰρηκέναι, πρὸς τὸ μόνον δεῖξαι, ὅτι μὴ 6 Πατήρ ἐστιν, ἀλλʼ 6 Υἱός, 6 τὸ γενητόν, καὶ κτιστὸν, καὶ ποιητὸν ἐνδυσάμενος σῶμα· διὸ καὶ γεγενῆσθαι, καὶ πεποιῆσθαι, καὶ ἐκτίσθαι λέγεται ὁ Υἱός.

Eita kai aitiasamenōn auton, hōs hena legonta tōn genētōn einai ton Huion,kai mē homoousion tǭ IIatri, autos palin en men tǭ prōtǭ bibliǭ tous toioutous dielenchei legōn; ‹‹ Iilēn egō genēta tina kai poiēta tina phēsas noeisthai, tōn men toioutōn hōs agreioterōn ex epidromēs eipon paradeigmataʼ epei to skaphos; eita tois hiknoumenois kai prosphyeo sterois-endietripsa; kai pleon diexēlthon peri tōn alēthesterōn, poikila prosepexeurōn tekmēria, haper kai soi diʼ allēs epistolēs egrapsa; en hois ēlenxa kai ’ho propherousin e3klēma katʼ emou pseudos hon, hōs ou legontos ton Christon homoousion einai tǭ Theǭ. Ei gar kai to onoma touto phēmi mē heurēkenai, gonēn parethemēn, dēlon hōs ousan homogenē ; einai, ton de potamon einai ek tēs pēgēs hydōr. Alla tauta min kai ta toiauta mēde horąn gegrammena, allʼ hoionei typhlōttein hypokrinontaio tois de dysi rhēmatiois asynthetois, kathaper lithois, makrothen epicheirousi me ballein, agnoountes hōs tōn agnooumenōn, kai prosagōgēs heis epignōsin deomenōn, ou monon alloia pollakis, alla kai hypenantia tekmēria ginetai tōn epizētoumenōn dēlōmata. ›› En de tǭ tritǭ bibliǭ phēsi. ‹‹ Zōē ek zōēs egennēthē ; kai hōsper potamos apo pēgēs €4rheuse;- kai apo phōtos asbestou lampron phōs an; hēphthē; n y. )› z913. Tis toutōn akouōn ou manias loipon katauēphisetai tōn hyponoountōn ton Dionysion ta Areiou phronein? ’ldobiydp dia toutōn phanerōs pasan autou patei tēn aʼiresin tois tēs alētheias logismois. To men gar, Ouk ēn prin gennēthę̄, kai to, Ēn pote hote ouk hēn,anairei tǭ tou apaugasmatos logǭo kai lege Dn, hoti Toutou 6 Patēr ouk ēn pote agonos; to de, Ex ouk hontōn, autōn, anairei en tǭ legein, ton Logon einai hōs potamon apo pēgēs, kai blaston apo rhizēs, kai teknon apo goneōs, kai phōs ek phōtos, kai zōēn ek zōēs kai to men aposchoinizein kai 8tairein autous ton Logon apo tou Theou, anairei legōn autos adiaireton kai ameiōton tēn Triaoa eis monada ōnkephalaiousthai. To de legein autous allotrion einai ton Huion tēs tou Iiatros ousias, antikrys patei legōn, homoousion einai tou Patros ton Uion. Ephʼ hǭ kai thaumaseien an tis tēn anaideian tōn dyssebōno pōs Dionysiou, ’on legousin homodoxon heautōn einai, legontos homoousion ton Huion, autoi perierchontai hōs kōnōpes peribombountes, hōs ouk orthōs grapsasēs tēs synosou to homoousion; ei gar Dionysios estin autois philos, mē arneisthōsan ta tou homophronos, El de nomizousi orthōs eirēsthai, pōs ton tou; to legonta Dionysion thryllousin, hōs ta autōn phronounta? malista hoti oude ek parergou tauta leo gōn phainetai, alla proteron allas epistolas grapsas, tous men kateirēkotas autou hōs mē legontos homooosion ton Huion tǭ Patri dielenchei pseudomenous; tous de nomizontas auton legein genēton ton Logon, parakrouetai; hoti mē houtōs hōs nomizousin ephronēsen, all ei kai tas lexeis heiʼrēke, dia touto phēsin eirēkenai, pros to monon deixai, hoti mē 6 Patēr estin, allʼ 6 Huios, 6 to genēton, kai ktiston, kai poiēton endysamenos sōma; dio kai gegenēsthai, kai pepoiēsthai, kai ektisthai legetai ho Huios.

Then, when they blamed him for saying that the Son is one of the originated things and not of the same essence as the Father, he refutes such men in the first book, saying: “But I, having said that some things are understood to be originated and some made, gave examples of such things in passing, as being less useful, … the boat; then I dwelt on those that were fitting and more apt, and went more fully into the truer ones, devising various further proofs, which I also wrote to you in another letter; in which I also refuted the charge they bring against me, which is false, that I do not say that Christ is of the same essence as God. For even if I say that I have not found this word, … I set forth [human] generation, plainly as being of the same kind … and that the river is the water from the spring. But these and such things they pretend not even to see written, but act as if they were blind; and with two detached little phrases they try to pelt me from afar, as with stones, not knowing that, with things that are not understood and need to be brought toward knowledge, not only different but even contrary proofs often become indications of what is sought.” And in the third book he says: “Life was begotten from life, and flowed as a river from a spring, and from unquenchable light a bright light was kindled.” [19] Who, hearing these things, will not condemn the madness of those who suspect that Dionysius held the views of Arius? For see how by these words he plainly tramples on their whole heresy with the reasonings of the truth. “He was not before he was begotten” and “There was once when he was not” he destroys by the account of the radiance, saying that the Father was never without offspring of him; their “from nothing” he destroys by saying that the Word is like a river from a spring, and a shoot from a root, and a child from a parent, and light from light, and life from life; their cutting off and dividing the Word from God he destroys by saying that the Triad is gathered up undivided and undiminished into the Monad; and their saying that the Son is foreign to the Father’s essence he openly tramples by saying that the Son is of the same essence as the Father. At this one might well marvel at the shamelessness of the impious: how, when Dionysius, whom they call one of their own opinion, says that the Son is “of the same essence,” they themselves go about buzzing like gnats that the council did not write “of the same essence” rightly. For if Dionysius is their friend, let them not deny what their like-minded friend holds; but if they think it was rightly said, how can they bandy about Dionysius, who says this, as holding their views? Especially since he is not seen to say these things casually, but, having first written other letters, he refutes as liars those who spoke against him as not saying that the Son is of the same essence as the Father; and those who think he calls the Word originated he rebuts, since he did not think as they suppose; but even if he used the words, he says he used them for this purpose only, to show that it is not the Father but the Son who put on the originated, created, and made body; and for this reason the Son is said to have come to be, and been made, and been created.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Notes and citation

Summary: Dionysius explained that his lowly examples were used in passing and that he held the Son to be of the same essence as the Father; the Arians cannot both claim him and reject “of the same essence.”

  • Chapter 19 begins at “[19]”; its numeral was lost in the scan, so it stands inside staged ref 18.
  • Dionysius of Alexandria, Refutation and Defense, books 1 and 3, quoted. Lines are lost in the scan inside the first quotation (marked “…”); its fuller text is quoted in De decretis 25 (staged there as ref 24) and is not supplied here.

Extrabiblical texts: Dionysius of Alexandria (Dionysius of Alexandria (letters and fragments); quotation)

Topics: Christology, Trinity, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Athanasius, Dion. 18 (PG 25:505b–508d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/athanasius-sententia-dionysii/16/#p-18). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 20

20PG 25:509a–509d

Ἀμέλει ἐπειδὴ προελήφθη γράψαι τὰς τοιαύτας λέξεις, τοῖς μὲν Ἀρειανοῖς μακρὰ φράζει χαίρειν, παρά δὲ τῶν ἀκουόντων συνείδησιν ἀγαθὴν ἀπαιτεῖ · τὸ δυσχερὲς ἢ τάχα καὶ τὸ ἀπερίδρακτον τῶν ζητουμένων προβαλλόμενοςίίνα μή τὰς λέξεις, ἀλλάτὴν διάνοιαν τοῦ γράφοντος κρίνωσι καὶ μάλισθʼ ὅταν τὰ πλεῖστα μαρτυρῇ τῇ τούτου φρονήσει. Ἔφησε γοῦν καὶ αὐτὸς, ὅτι· ‹‹ Τῶν μὲν τοιούτων ὡς ἀχρειοτέρων, ἐξ ἐπιδρομῆς, εἷπον τὰ παραδείγματα, τὸ φυτὸν καὶ τὸν γεωργόν. τοῖς δὲ προσφυεστέροις ἐνδιέτριψα, καὶ πλέον διεξῆλθον περὶ τῶν ἀληθεστέρων. ›› Ὃ δὲ τοῦτο λέγων δείκνυσιν ἀληθέστερον εἶναι τὸ λέγειν ἀίδιον καὶ ἐκ τοῦ Πατρὸς τὸν Υἱὸν ἤπερ γενητόν · ἐκ τούτου μὲν γὰρ τὸ σωματικὸν τοῦ Κυρίου σημαίνεται, ἐξ ἐκείνων δὲ τὸ ἀίδιον τῆς Θεότητος αὐτοῦ. Ἐν τούτοις γοῦν καὶ ἠλέγχθαι παρʼ αὐτοῦ τοὺς ἐγκαλέσαντας, ὡς μή λέγοντος αὐτοῦ ὁμοούσιον τοῦ Πατρὸς, διαβεβαιοῦται οὐχ ἀπλῶς, ἀλλὰ μετά φρονήσεως καὶ ἀποδείξεως ἀληθοῦς, λέγων· ‹‹ Εἰ καὶ μὴ τὴν λέξιν ταύτην εὗρον ἐν ταῖς Γραφαῖς, ἀλλʼ ἐξ αὐτῶν τῶν Γραφῶν τὸν νοῦν συναγαγὼν, ἔγνων, ὅτι, Υἱὸς ὢν καὶ Λόγος, οὐ ξένος ἂν εἴη τῆς οὐσίας τοῦ Πατρός. ›› Ὅτι γάς οὐ κτίσμα, οὐδὲ ποίημα φρονεῖ τὸν Υἱὸν εἶναι · καὶ γὰρ καὶ έν τούτῳ τεθρυλλήκασιν αὐτόν ” οὕτως ἐν τῷ δευτέρῳ βιβλίῳ φησίν· ‹‹ Ἐὰν δέ τις τῶν συκοφαντῶν, ἐπειδὴ τῶν ἀπάντων ποιητὴν τὸν Θεὸν καὶ δημιουργὸν εἶπον, οἷὴται με καὶ τοῦ Χριστοῦ λέγειν, ἀκουσάτω μου πρότερον Πατέρα φήσαντος αὐτὸν,ἐν ᾧ καὶ ὁΥἱὸς προσγέγραπται* μετά γὰρ τὸ εἰπεῖν Πατέρα ποιητὴν, ἐπαγήοχα· Καὶ οὔτε πατήρ ἐστιν ὧν ποιητῆς, εἷ κυρίως ὁ γεννήσας πατὴρ ἀκούοιτο · τῆν γᾶρ πλατύτητα τῆς τοῦ πατρὸς προσηγορίας ἐν τοῖς ἑξῆς ἐπεξεργασόμεθα υ οὔτε ποιητὴς 6 πατὴρ, εἰ μόνος ὁ χειροτέχνης ποιητής λέγοιτο. ΙΙαρ Ἕλλησι γὰρ ποιηταὶ καὶ τῶν ἰδίων καλοῦνται λόγων οἱ σοφοί· καὶ Ποιητὴς, ὁ Ἀπόστολος εἶπε, νόμου· καὶ τῶν έγκαρδίων γὰρ ἀρετῆς κακίας ποιηταὶ καθίστανται, ὡς εἶπεν ὁ Θεός* Ἐμεινα τοῦ ποιῆσαι κρίσιν, ἐποίησε δὲ ἀνομίαν. ››

Amelei epeidē proelēphthē grapsai tas toiautas lexeis, tois men Areianois makra phrazei chairein, para de tōn akouontōn syneidēsin agathēn apaitei ; to dyscheres ē tacha kai to aperidrakton tōn zētoumenōn proballomenosiina mē tas lexeis, allatēn dianoian tou graphontos krinōsi kai malisthʼ hotan ta pleista martyrę̄ tę̄ toutou phronēsei. Ephēse goun kai autos, hoti; ‹‹ Tōn men toioutōn hōs achreioterōn, ex epidromēs, heipon ta paradeigmata, to phyton kai ton geōrgon. tois de prosphyesterois endietripsa, kai pleon diexēlthon peri tōn alēthesterōn. ›› Ho de touto legōn deiknysin alēthesteron einai to legein aidion kai ek tou Patros ton Huion ēper genēton ; ek toutou men gar to sōmatikon tou Kyriou sēmainetai, ex ekeinōn de to aidion tēs Theotētos autou. En toutois goun kai ēlenchthai parʼ autou tous enkalesantas, hōs mē legontos autou homoousion tou Patros, diabebaioutai ouch aplōs, alla meta phronēseōs kai apodeixeōs alēthous, legōn; ‹‹ Ei kai mē tēn lexin tautēn heuron en tais Graphais, allʼ ex autōn tōn Graphōn ton noun synagagōn, egnōn, hoti, Huios ōn kai Logos, ou xenos an eiē tēs ousias tou Patros. ›› Hoti gas ou ktisma, oude poiēma phronei ton Huion einai ; kai gar kai en toutǭ tethryllēkasin auton ” houtōs en tǭ deuterǭ bibliǭ phēsin; ‹‹ Ean de tis tōn sykophantōn, epeidē tōn apantōn poiētēn ton Theon kai dēmiourgon eipon, hoiētai me kai tou Christou legein, akousatō mou proteron Patera phēsantos auton,en hǭ kai hoUios prosgegraptai* meta gar to eipein Patera poiētēn, epagēocha; Kai oute patēr estin hōn poiētēs, hei kyriōs ho gennēsas patēr akouoito ; tēn gar platytēta tēs tou patros prosēgorias en tois hexēs epexergasometha y oute poiētēs 6 patēr, ei monos ho cheirotechnēs poiētēs legoito. IIar Hellēsi gar poiētai kai tōn idiōn kalountai logōn hoi sophoi; kai Poiētēs, ho Apostolos eipe, nomou; kai tōn enkardiōn gar aretēs kakias poiētai kathistantai, hōs eipen ho Theos* Emeina tou poiēsai krisin, epoiēse de anomian. ››

Indeed, since he had been led to write such expressions earlier, he bids the Arians a long farewell, and asks of his hearers a good conscience, putting forward the difficulty, and perhaps even the incomprehensibility, of the matters under inquiry, so that they may judge not the words but the meaning of the writer, especially when most things bear witness to his thinking. At any rate he himself said: “Of such things, as less useful, I gave the examples in passing, the plant and the gardener; but I dwelt on the more apt ones and went more fully into the truer ones.” One who says this shows that it is truer to say that the Son is eternal and from the Father than that he is originated; for by the latter the bodily nature of the Lord is signified, by the former the eternity of his divinity. In these words, at any rate, he affirms that those who charged him with not saying that the Son is of the same essence as the Father were refuted by him—not simply, but with understanding and true proof—saying: “Even if I did not find this word in the Scriptures, yet, gathering the sense from the Scriptures themselves, I knew that, being Son and Word, he could not be foreign to the essence of the Father.” And that he does not think the Son to be a creature or a thing made (for on this point too they have bandied his name), he says thus in the second book: “But if any of the slanderers, because I called God the maker and creator of all things, supposes that I call him maker of Christ too, let him hear me having first called him Father, in which the Son too is written along with him. For after calling the Father maker, I added: And neither is he father of the things of which he is maker, if he who begets is properly understood as father (for we will work out the breadth of the title father in what follows); nor is the father a maker, if only the craftsman is called maker. For among the Greeks the wise are called makers of their own words; and the apostle said, ‘doer of the law’; and men become doers of things within the heart, virtue and vice, as God said: ‘I waited for him to do judgment, but he did lawlessness.’”

Rom 2:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 5:7 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Dionysius asked to be judged by his meaning: he called the Son of the same essence as the Father in sense, and called God “maker” only in a broad sense of the word.

  • Dionysius of Alexandria, Refutation and Defense, book 2, quoted.
  • ποιητής means both “maker” and “doer” (and “poet”); Dionysius plays on the senses. Rom 2:13 (“doer of the law”); Isa 5:7 LXX.

Extrabiblical texts: Dionysius of Alexandria (Dionysius of Alexandria (letters and fragments); quotation)

Topics: Christology, Trinity

Cite (SBL): Athanasius, Dion. 20 (PG 25:509a–509d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/athanasius-sententia-dionysii/16/#p-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 21

21PG 25:509d–512b

Ἔστιν ἀληθῶς, ἀκούοντα ταῦτα μνησθῆναι τοῦ θείου λογίου λέγοντος· Οῦ ἐὰν στραφῇ ὁ ἀσεβὴς, ἀφανίζεναι. ’18οὺ γὰρ ποικίλωςνστρειρόμενοι καθʼ ἑκάστην οἱ δυσσεβεῖς ἀφανίζονται, μή ἔχοντες μηδὲ εἷς τοῦτο πρόφασιν περὶ Διονυσίου, Φανερῶς μὲν γὰρ διδάσκει, μή εἶναι ποίημα,“ μηδὲ (κτίσμα τὸν Υἱόνσ αἰτιᾶται δὲ καὶ θεραπεύει τοὺς διαβάλλοντας αὐτὸν, ὡς εἰπόντα ποιητήν τὸν Θεὸν, ὅτι μή συνεῖδον εἷʼπόντα αὐτὸν πρότερον Πατέρα τδν Θεὸν έν ᾧ καὶ 6 Υἰὸς προσγέγραπται. Τοῦτο δὲ λέγων, δείκνυσι μῆ εἶναι τῶν ποιημάτων τὸν Υἱὸν μηδὲ ποιητὴν, ἀλλὰ Πατέρα τοῦ ἰδίου Λόγου τὸν Θεὸν εἶναι. Καὶ ἐπειδὴ ἀσυνειδήτως τινές ἐπήγαγον αὐτῷ, ὅτι ποιητὴν εἶπε τὸν Θεὸν τοῦ Χριστοῦ, διὰ τοῦτο ποικίλως ἀπολογούμενος, φησὶ μηδʼ οὕτως έπιλήψι μον εἶναι τὸν λόγον · εἰρηκέναι γὰρ ποιητήν φησι διὰ τήν σάρκα, ἢν ἀνέλαβε, γενητὴν οὖσαν αὖτὴν, ὁ Λόγος. ‹‹ Εἰ δὲ καὶ περί τοῦ Λόγου τις ὑπονοήσοι τοῦτο λελέχθαι, καὶ οὕτως ἔπρεπεν αὐτοὺς ἀφιλονείκως ἀκοῦσαι· ὡς γὰρ οὐ ποίημα φρονῶ τὸν Λόγον, καί οὐ ποιητὴν, ἀλλὰ Πατέρα τὸν Θεὸν αὐτοῦ λέγω· κᾶν ἐξ ἐπιδρομῆς εἴπω ποιητὴν τὸν Θεὸν, διηγούμενος περὶ τοῦ Υἱοῦ, ἀλλᾶ καὶ οὕτως ἀπολογήσασθαι δυνατόνʼ ποιητᾶςαγάρ τῶν ἰδίων λ”γων Ἐλλήνων μὲν οἱ σοφοί φασι, καίτοι πατέρας ἑαυτοὺς ὄντας ἰδίων λόγων· ἡ δὲ θεία Γραφή καὶ τῶν ἀπὸ καρδίας κινημάτων ποίητὰς ἡμᾶς διαγορεύει, ποιητὰς νόμου καὶ κρίσεως καὶ δικαιοσύνης λέγουσα. Ὥστε πανταχόθεν τὸν μέν ι”ιὸν μὴ εἶναι κτίμσμα, μηδὲ ποίημα, ἑαυτὸν δὲ ἀλλότριον τῆς ’Δρειανῆς κακοδοξίας ἀποδείκνυσιν.

Estin alēthōs, akouonta tauta mnēsthēnai tou theiou logiou legontos; Ou ean straphę̄ ho asebēs, aphanizenai. ’18ou gar poikilōsnstreiromenoi kathʼ hekastēn hoi dyssebeis aphanizontai, mē echontes mēde heis touto prophasin peri Dionysiou, Phanerōs men gar didaskei, mē einai poiēma,“ mēde (ktisma ton Huions aitiatai de kai therapeuei tous diaballontas auton, hōs eiponta poiētēn ton Theon, hoti mē syneidon heiʼponta auton proteron Patera tdn Theon en hǭ kai 6 Uios prosgegraptai. Touto de legōn, deiknysi mē einai tōn poiēmatōn ton Huion mēde poiētēn, alla Patera tou idiou Logou ton Theon einai. Kai epeidē asyneidētōs tines epēgagon autǭ, hoti poiētēn eipe ton Theon tou Christou, dia touto poikilōs apologoumenos, phēsi mēdʼ houtōs epilēpsi mon einai ton logon ; eirēkenai gar poiētēn phēsi dia tēn sarka, ēn anelabe, genētēn ousan autēn, ho Logos. ‹‹ Ei de kai peri tou Logou tis hyponoēsoi touto lelechthai, kai houtōs eprepen autous aphiloneikōs akousai; hōs gar ou poiēma phronō ton Logon, kai ou poiētēn, alla Patera ton Theon autou legō; kan ex epidromēs eipō poiētēn ton Theon, diēgoumenos peri tou Huiou, alla kai houtōs apologēsasthai dynatonʼ poiētasagar tōn idiōn l”gōn Ellēnōn men hoi sophoi phasi, kaitoi pateras heautous ontas idiōn logōn; hē de theia Graphē kai tōn apo kardias kinēmatōn poiētas hēmas diagoreuei, poiētas nomou kai kriseōs kai dikaiosynēs legousa. Hōste pantachothen ton men i”ion mē einai ktimsma, mēde poiēma, heauton de allotrion tēs ’Dreianēs kakodoxias apodeiknysin.

Truly, on hearing these things one should remember the divine oracle that says: “Wherever the impious man turns, he vanishes.” For see, turning this way and that at every point, the impious vanish, having no pretext concerning Dionysius even in this. For he plainly teaches that the Son is neither a thing made nor a creature; and he blames and corrects those who slander him for calling God maker, because they did not perceive that he had first called God Father, in which the Son too is written along with him. In saying this he shows that the Son is not one of the things made, nor God his maker, but that God is Father of his own Word. And since some carelessly charged him with calling God the maker of Christ, he therefore defends himself in various ways and says that even so his statement is not blameworthy; for he says that he called him maker because of the flesh which the Word assumed, since it was originated. “But if anyone should suppose that this was said of the Word, even so they ought to have heard it without contentiousness. For as I do not think the Word a thing made, so I do not call God his maker but his Father; and even if, in speaking of the Son, I said in passing that God is maker, even so a defense is possible. For the wise among the Greeks call themselves makers of their own words, though they are fathers of their own words; and the divine Scripture calls us makers even of the movements of the heart, speaking of doers of law and of judgment and of righteousness.” So on every side he shows that the Son is neither a creature nor a thing made, and that he himself is a stranger to the Arian false doctrine.

Prov 12:7 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Dionysius explained that he called God “maker” in relation to Christ’s flesh, or in the loose sense in which an author “makes” his words.

  • Prov 12:7 LXX (“Wherever the impious man turns, he vanishes”). The words in quotation marks are given as Dionysius’s in the edition.

Extrabiblical texts: Dionysius of Alexandria (Dionysius of Alexandria (letters and fragments); quotation)

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Athanasius, Dion. 21 (PG 25:509d–512b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/athanasius-sententia-dionysii/16/#p-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 22

22PG 25:512b–513a

Μὴ γὰρ δή τις Ἀρειανὸς, μηδὲ έν τούτω ὑπονοείτω κατʼ αὐτοῦ ὡς οὕτω λέγοντος, Σύνεστιν 6 Υἱὸς τῷ ΙΙατρὶ, ὡς τὰ μέν ὀνόματα συνῆφθαι ἀλλήλοις, τὰ δὲ πράγματα πλεῖστον ἀλλήλων διεστάναι ο καὶ μὴ ἀεὶ μὲν συνεῖναι τὸν Υἱὸν τῷ Ιῖατρί ἀφʼ οὗ δὶ γέγονε 6 Υἱὸς, ἐξ ἐκείνου καὶ Πατέρα τὸν Θεὸν εἷρῆσθαιʼ καὶ λοιπὸν αὐτῷ συνεῖναι, ὥσπερ καὶ ἐπʼ ἀνθρώπων τοῦτο γίνεται. Ἀλλʼ ένθυμιίσθω καὶ μνημονευέτω τῶν προειρημένων, καὶ ὄψεται Διονυσίου τῆν πίστιν ὀρθήν. Λέγων γάρ · α Οὐ γὰρ ἦν ὅτε ὁ Θεὸς οὐκ ἦν Πατήρ · ›› καὶ πάλιν · (ί Ὁ δέ γε Θεὸς αἰώνιόν ἐστι φῶς, οὕτε ἀρξάμενον, οὔτε λῆξόν ποτε ' οὐκοῦν αἰώνιον πρόκειται, καί σύνεστιν αὐτῷ τὸ ἀπαύγασμα, ἄναρχον καὶ ἀειγενές, προφαινόμενον αὐτοῦ· ›) ἐχρῆν μηδένα τὸ σύνολον ὑπονεῖν τινα τοιαῦτα κατʼ αὐτοῦ. Καὶ τὰ παραδείγματα δέ τῆς πηγῆς, καὶ τοῦ ποταμοῦ, καὶ τῆς ῥίζης, καὶ τοῦ αὐτοῦ.

Mē gar dē tis Areianos, mēde en toutō hyponoeitō katʼ autou hōs houtō legontos, Synestin 6 Huios tǭ IIatri, hōs ta men onomata synēphthai allēlois, ta de pragmata pleiston allēlōn diestanai o kai mē aei men syneinai ton Huion tǭ Iiatri aphʼ hou di gegone 6 Huios, ex ekeinou kai Patera ton Theon heirēsthaiʼ kai loipon autǭ syneinai, hōsper kai epʼ anthrōpōn touto ginetai. Allʼ enthymiisthō kai mnēmoneuetō tōn proeirēmenōn, kai opsetai Dionysiou tēn pistin orthēn. Legōn gar ; a Ou gar ēn hote ho Theos ouk ēn Patēr ; ›› kai palin ; (i Ho de ge Theos aiōnion esti phōs, houte arxamenon, oute lēxon pote ' oukoun aiōnion prokeitai, kai synestin autǭ to apaugasma, anarchon kai aeigenes, prophainomenon autou; ›) echrēn mēdena to synolon hyponein tina toiauta katʼ autou. Kai ta paradeigmata de tēs pēgēs, kai tou potamou, kai tēs rhizēs, kai tou autou.

For let no Arian suspect him, even in this, of saying: “The Son coexists with the Father in such a way that the names are joined to one another, while the realities are very far apart from one another; and the Son did not always coexist with the Father, but from the time the Son came to be, from then on God was called Father and thereafter coexists with him, as happens with men.” Rather, let him consider and remember what was said before, and he will see that Dionysius’s faith is correct. For since he says, “For there was not a time when God was not Father,” and again, “But God is eternal light, neither having begun nor ever ending; so the radiance lies before him eternally and is with him, without beginning and always begotten, shining forth before him,” no one ought to suspect anything of the kind against him at all. And the illustrations of the spring and the river, and of the root, and of the …

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Summary: Dionysius did not mean that Father and Son are joined only in name, for he taught that God was always Father and the radiance eternally with him.

  • The chapter breaks off in the scan after “and of the root, and of the”; the rest is lost and is marked “…”.

Extrabiblical texts: Dionysius of Alexandria (Dionysius of Alexandria (letters and fragments); quotation)

Topics: Trinity, Christology

Cite (SBL): Athanasius, Dion. 22 (PG 25:512b–513a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/athanasius-sententia-dionysii/16/#p-22). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 23

23PG 25:513a–516a

Ἐπειδή δὲ πρὸς πᾶσι τοῖς ἑαυτοῦ κακοῖς ὁΑ ’Ἀρειος καί τοῦτο συμπεφόρηκεν ἑαυτῷ ῥημάτιον, ὡς ἐκ κοπρίας, καὶ προστίθησιν, ὡς ἄρα ‹‹ 6 Λόγος οὐκ ἔστινίδιος τοῦ Πατρός, ἀλλʼ σίλλος μὲν ἔστιν 6 έν τῷ Θεῷ Λόγος· οὗτος δὲ 6 Κύριος ξένος μὲν καὶ ἀλλότριός ἐστι τῆς τοῦ Πατρὸς οὐσίας · κατʼ ἐπίνοιαν δὲ μόνον λέγεται Λόγος, καί οὐκ ἔστι μὲν κατά φύσιν καὶ ἀληθινὸς τοῦ Θεοῦ Υἱὸς, κατᾶ θέσιν δὲ λέγεται καὶ οὗτος Υἱὸς, ὡς κτίσμα· ›› καὶ τοιαῦτα λέγων αὐχεῖ παρὰ τοῖς ἀγνοοῦσιν, ὡς καὶ ἐν τούτοις ἔχων ὁμόδοξον τὸν Διονύσιον· ὅρα καὶ τὴν περὶτούτων πίστιν τοῦ Διονυσίου, καὶ πῶς μάχεται ταῖς τοιαύταις ’Δρείου κακονοίαις. Γράφει γὰρ ἐν μὶν τῷ πρώτῳ βιβλίῳ οὕτως· ‹‹ Προείρηται μὲν οῦν, δτιπηγή τῶν ἀγαθῶν ἁπάντων ἐστὶν 6 Θεός· ποταμὸς δὲ ὑπʼ αὐτοῦ προχεόμενος 6 Υἱὸς ἀναγέγραπται. ἀπόρῥοια γὰρ νοῦ λόγος· καὶ ὡς ἐπʼ ἀνθρώπων εἰπεῖν, ἀπὸ καρδίας διὰ στόματος ἐξογετεύεται, ἕτερος γενόμενος τοῦ έν καρδίᾳ λόγου, 6 διὰ γλώσσης νοῦς προπηδῶν. Ὁ μὲν γὰρ ἔμεινε προπέμψας, καὶ ἔστιν οἷος ἧν· 6 δὲ ἐξέπτη προπεμφθεὶς, καὶ φέρεται πανταχοῦ· καὶ οὕτως ἐστὶν ἑκάτερος ἐν ἑκατέρῳ, ἕτερος ὢν θατέρου· καὶ ἓν εἰσιν, ὄντες δύο· οὕτω γὰρ καὶ 6 Πατὴρ καὶ ὁ Υἱὸς ἓν, καὶ ἐν ἀλλήλοις ἐλέχθησαν εἶναι. ›› Ἐν δὲ τῷ τετάρτῳ βιβλίῳ, οὕτως λέγει· ‹‹ Ὠς γὰρ 6 ἡμέτερος νοῦς ἐρεύγεται μὲν ἀφʼ ἑαυτοῦ τὸν λόγον, ὡς εἶπεν 6 Προφήτης· Ἐξηρεύξατο ἡ καρδία μου λόγον ἀγαθόν· καὶ ἔστι μὶν ἑκάτερος ἕτερος θατέρου, ἴδιον καὶ τοῦ λοιποῦ κεχωρισμένον εἰληχὼς τόπον, 6 μὲν ἐν καρδίᾳ, 6 δὲ ἐπὶ τῆς γλώττης καὶ τοῦ στόματος οἰκῶν τε καὶ κινούμενος· ού μὴν διεστήκασιν, οὐδὲ καθάπαξ ἀλλήλων στέρονται, οὐδέ ἐστιν οὔτε 6 νοῦς ἄλογος, οὕτε ἄνους 6 λόγος· ἀλλʼ ὅ γε νοῦς ποιεῖ τὸν λόγον ἐν αύτῷ φανείς· καὶ ὁ λόγος δείκνυσι τὸν νοῦν έν αὐτῷ γενόμενος· καὶ 6 μὲν νοῦς ἐστιν, οἷον λόγος έγκείμενος·ὁ δὲ λόγος νοῦς προπηδῶν· καὶ μεθίσταται μὲν 6 νοῦς είς τὸν λόγον, 6 δὲ λόγος τὸν,νοῦν είς τούς ἀκροατὰς ἐγκυκλεῖ. Καὶ οὕτως ὁ νοῦς διὰ τοῦ λόγου ταῖς τῶν ἀκουόντων ψυχαῖς ἆνιδρύεται, συνεισιὼν τῷ λόγῳ· καὶ ἔστιν 6 μὲν οἷον πατὴρ 6 νοῦς τοῦ λόγου, ὢν ἔφʼ ἑαυτοῦ· 6 Ξὲ καθάπερ υἱὸς, 6 λόγος, τοῦ νοῦ· πρὸ ἐκείνου μὶν ἰδύνατον, ἀλλʼ οὐδὲ ἔξωθέν ποθεν σὺν ἐκείνῳ γενόαενος, βλαστήσας δὲ ἀπʼ αὐτοῦ. Οὕτως 6 Πατὴρ 6 αέγιστος καὶ καθόλου νοῦς, πρῶτον τὸν Υἱὸν λόγον έρμηνέα καὶ ἄγγελον ἑαυτοῦ ἔχει. ››

Epeidē de pros pasi tois heautou kakois hoA ’Areios kai touto sympephorēken heautǭ rhēmation, hōs ek koprias, kai prostithēsin, hōs ara ‹‹ 6 Logos ouk estinidios tou Patros, allʼ sillos men estin 6 en tǭ Theǭ Logos; houtos de 6 Kyrios xenos men kai allotrios esti tēs tou Patros ousias ; katʼ epinoian de monon legetai Logos, kai ouk esti men kata physin kai alēthinos tou Theou Huios, kata thesin de legetai kai houtos Huios, hōs ktisma; ›› kai toiauta legōn auchei para tois agnoousin, hōs kai en toutois echōn homodoxon ton Dionysion; hora kai tēn peritoutōn pistin tou Dionysiou, kai pōs machetai tais toiautais ’Dreiou kakonoiais. Graphei gar en min tǭ prōtǭ bibliǭ houtōs; ‹‹ Proeirētai men oun, dtipēgē tōn agathōn hapantōn estin 6 Theos; potamos de hypʼ autou procheomenos 6 Huios anagegraptai. aporrhoia gar nou logos; kai hōs epʼ anthrōpōn eipein, apo kardias dia stomatos exogeteuetai, heteros genomenos tou en kardią logou, 6 dia glōssēs nous propēdōn. Ho men gar emeine propempsas, kai estin hoios hēn; 6 de exeptē propemphtheis, kai pheretai pantachou; kai houtōs estin hekateros en hekaterǭ, heteros ōn thaterou; kai hen eisin, ontes dyo; houtō gar kai 6 Patēr kai ho Huios hen, kai en allēlois elechthēsan einai. ›› En de tǭ tetartǭ bibliǭ, houtōs legei; ‹‹ Ōs gar 6 hēmeteros nous ereugetai men aphʼ heautou ton logon, hōs eipen 6 Prophētēs; Exēreuxato hē kardia mou logon agathon; kai esti min hekateros heteros thaterou, idion kai tou loipou kechōrismenon eilēchōs topon, 6 men en kardią, 6 de epi tēs glōttēs kai tou stomatos oikōn te kai kinoumenos; ou mēn diestēkasin, oude kathapax allēlōn sterontai, oude estin oute 6 nous alogos, houte anous 6 logos; allʼ ho ge nous poiei ton logon en autǭ phaneis; kai ho logos deiknysi ton noun en autǭ genomenos; kai 6 men nous estin, hoion logos enkeimenos;ho de logos nous propēdōn; kai methistatai men 6 nous eis ton logon, 6 de logos ton,noun eis tous akroatas enkyklei. Kai houtōs ho nous dia tou logou tais tōn akouontōn psychais anidryetai, syneisiōn tǭ logǭ; kai estin 6 men hoion patēr 6 nous tou logou, ōn ephʼ heautou; 6 Xe kathaper huios, 6 logos, tou nou; pro ekeinou min idynaton, allʼ oude exōthen pothen syn ekeinǭ genoaenos, blastēsas de apʼ autou. Houtōs 6 Patēr 6 aegistos kai katholou nous, prōton ton Huion logon ermēnea kai angelon heautou echei. ››

But since, in addition to all his other evils, Arius has also raked together this little phrase for himself, as from a dunghill, and adds that “the Word is not proper to the Father; but the Word in God is one, while this Lord is foreign and alien to the Father’s essence, and is called Word only in notion; he is not by nature and truly Son of God, but he too is called Son by adoption, as a creature”; and since, saying such things, he boasts among the ignorant that in these too he has Dionysius as one of his opinion—see the faith of Dionysius on these matters too, and how he fights against such malicious views of Arius. For he writes thus in the first book: “It has been said already that God is the spring of all good things, while the Son is described as the river poured forth from him. For a word is an effluence of mind, and, to speak as of men, it is channeled from the heart through the mouth, the mind that leaps forth through the tongue becoming other than the word in the heart. For the one, having sent forth the other, remained, and is as it was; the other, sent forth, flew out and is carried everywhere. And so each is in the other, being other than the other; and they are one, being two. For so too the Father and the Son were said to be one, and in one another.” And in the fourth book he says thus: “For as our mind brings forth the word from itself, as the prophet said, ‘My heart has uttered a good word’; and each is other than the other, having obtained its own place separate from the other, the one dwelling and moving in the heart, the other on the tongue and in the mouth; yet they are not apart, nor are they ever deprived of one another, nor is the mind without word, nor the word without mind; but the mind makes the word, appearing in it, and the word shows the mind, having come to be in it; and the mind is like a word lying within, while the word is mind leaping forth; and the mind passes over into the word, while the word carries the mind round to the hearers; and so the mind, through the word, is settled in the souls of the hearers, entering in together with the word. And the mind is, as it were, father of the word, existing by itself; while the word is, as it were, son of the mind—impossible before it, yet not coming to be together with it from somewhere outside, but having sprung from it. So the Father, the greatest and universal Mind, has the Son first, as his Word, interpreter and messenger.”

Ps 45:1 (44:2 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:30 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 14:10 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Against Arius’s claim of two Words, Dionysius compared the Son to the word that springs from the mind, distinct yet inseparable.

  • The Arian statement is quoted from Arius. Dionysius of Alexandria, Refutation and Defense, books 1 and 4, quoted. Ps 45:1 (44:2 LXX); John 10:30 and 14:10 (one, and in one another).

Extrabiblical texts: Dionysius of Alexandria (Dionysius of Alexandria (letters and fragments); quotation)

Topics: Christology, Trinity, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Athanasius, Dion. 23 (PG 25:513a–516a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/athanasius-sententia-dionysii/16/#p-23). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 24

24PG 25:516a–517b

Τούτων ἢ οὐκ ἤκουσέ ποτε Ἀρειος, ἢ ἀκούσας >ὖκ ἐνόησεν 6 ἀμαθής· οὐκ ἂν γὰρ, εἷʼπερ ἦν θοή σας, κατεψεύδετο τοσοῦτον κατὰ τοῦ ἐπισκόπουο ὶλλὰ πάντως καὶ αὐτὰν ὡς ἡμᾶς ἐλοιδόρει διὰ τὸ πρὸς τὴν ἀλήθειαν μῖσος. Χριστομάχος γὰρ ὢν, οὐκ ὀκνήσει καὶτοὺς τὰ Χριστοῦ φρονοῦντας διώκειν, ὡς αὐτὸς 6 Κύριος προείρηκεν· Εἰ ἐμὲ ἐδίωξαν, καὶ ὑμᾶς διώξουσιν. Ἢ εἰ νομίζουσιν οἱ προστάται τῆς ἀσεβείας ὁμόφρονα τὸν Διονύσιον ἑαυτοῖς εἶναι, γραψάτωσαν ταῦτα καὶ ὁμολογείτωσαν· γραψάτωσαν τὴν ἄμπελον καὶ τδν γεωργὸν, τὰ σκάφος καὶ τὸν ναυπηγόν. Καὶ ἅμα ὁμολογείτωσαν καὶ ἅπερ εἶπεν ἀπολογούμενος τὸ ὀμοούσιον· καὶ τὸ ἐκ τῆς ούσίας εἶναι τὸν Υἱὸν, καὶ τὸ ἀΐδιον, καὶ τὸν νοῦν πρὸς τὸν λόγον, τὴν τε πηγὴν, καὶ τὸν ποταμὸν, καί τὰ ἄλλον ’ἱνα κᾶν ἐκ τῆς διαφορᾶς γνῶσι, πῶς έκεῖνα μὶν κατʼ οἰκονομίαν, ταῦτα δὲ, ὡς 6 τῆς εὖ· σεβοῦς πίστεως βούλεται λόγος, εἴρηκε. Καὶ λοιπὸν ταῦτα λέγοντες ἀναιρῶσιν ἅπερ κατʼ αὐτῶν τούτων ἐφρόνησαν. Τί γὰρ κᾶν ἐγγὺς ἔχει τῶν ’Δρείου κακῶν ἡ Διονυσίου πίστις ς Οὐχ 6 μὲν ’Δρειος κατʼ ἐπίνοιαν λέγει τὸν Λόγον, 6 δὲ Διονύσιος ἀληθινὸν καὶ φύσει Λόγον τοῦ Θεοῦ; Καί 6 μὶν ἀποο ξενοῖ τὸν λόγον ἀπὸ τοῦ Πατρός· 6 δὲ ἴδιον καὶ ἀδιαίρετον τῇς τοῦ Πατρὸς οὐσίας αὐτὸν εἶναι διδάσκει, ὥσπερ ἔστιν ὁ λόγος πρὸς τὸν νοῦν, καὶ ποταμὸς πρὸς τὴν πηγήν. Et μὶν οὗν διαιρεῖν καὶ ἀποξενοῦν τὸν λόγον καὶ τόν νοῦν τις δύναται, ἢ τὸν ποταμὸν καῖ τήν πηγὴν μερίσαι, καὶ τειχίσας διελεῖν· ἢ τὸν ποταμην έτερούσιον εἰπεῖν πρὸς τήν πηγὴν, καὶ ξένον τὸ ὕδωρ δεῖξαι, ἢ τὸ ἀπαύγασμα τολμᾷ διελεῖν ἀπὸ τοῦ φωτὸς καί εἰπεῖν ἐξ ἑτέρας οὐσίας εἶναι τὸ ἀπαύγασμα, καὶ μή έκ τοῦ φωτὸς, μαινέσθω μετὰ ’Δρείου· 6 γὰρ τοιοῦτος μηδὲ νοῦν ἀνθρώπινον. ἔχων ἔτι φανήσεται· εἰ δὲ ἀδιαίρετα ταῦτα οἶδεν ἡ φύσις, καὶ τὸ τούτων γέννημα ἴδιον, μήτε τὰ Ἀρείου τις ἔτι λοιπὸν φρονείτω, μήτε Διονύσιον διαβαλλέτωο ἀλλὰ καί μᾶλλον ἐκ τούτων αὐτοῦ θαυμαζέτω τήν τε τοῦ λόγου λευκότητα, καὶ τὴν τῆς πίστεως ὀρθότητα. Ὅτι γὰρ πρὸς τήν μανίαν Ἀρείου λέγοντος ἄλλον εἶναι τὸν ἐν τῷ Θεῷ Λόγον, καὶ ἄλλον περὶ οὗ φησιν ’ὁ Ἰωάννης, Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν 6 Λόγος καὶ ἄλλην μὲν ἰδίαν σοφίαν εἶναι ἐν τῷ Θεῷ, ἄλλην δὲ περὶ ἧς φησιν 6 Ἀπόστολος· Χριστὸς Θεοῦ Δύναμις καὶ Θεοῦ Σοφία· πάλιν 6 Διονύσιος ἀνθίσταται καὶ διαβάλλει τήν τοιαύτην κακοδοξίαν· δρα πάλιν πῶς έν τῷ δευτέρῳ βιβλίῳ γράφει περί τούτων οὕτως· ‹‹ Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν 6 Λόγος· ἀλλʼ οὐκ ἦν Λόγος 6 τὸν Λόγον προέμενος· ἦν γὰρ 6 Λόγος πρὸς τὸν Θεόν. Σοφία γεγένηται 6 Κόριοςʼ οὐκ ἦν οὖν σοφία ὁ τήν σοφίαν ἀνείς · Ἐγὼ γὰρ ἤμην, φησὶν, προσέχαιρεν. Ἀλήθειά ἐστιν 6 Χριστόςο Εὐλογητὸς δὲ, φησίν, 6 Θεὸς τῆς ἀληθείας· ›› Ἐνταῦθα καὶ Σαβέλλιον καὶ ’Ἀρειον ἀνατρέπει, καὶ ἀμφοτέρας τὰς αἱρέσεις ἴσας ἐν ἀσεβείᾳ δείκνυσινʼ οὔτε γὰρ Λόγος ἐστὶν 6 τοῦ Λόγου Πατὴρ, οὔτε ποίημά ἐστι τὸ ἐκ τοῦ Πατρὸς, ἀλλά ἴδιον τῆς οὐσίας αὐτοῦ γέννημα. Πάλιν τε οὐκ ἔστι Πατὴρ 6 προελθὼν Λόγος· οὐδὲ πάλιν ἐκ πολλῶν εἷς ἐστιν οὗτος Λόγος, ἀλλά μόνος ἐστί τοῦ Πατρὸς Υἱὸς, ἀληθινὸς καὶ φύσει γνήσιος, ὁ καὶ νῦν ὣν ἐν αὐτῷ, καὶ ἀϊδίως καὶ ἀδιαιρέτως ὢν ἐξ αὐτοῦ. Οὕτω καὶ σοφία καὶ ἀλήθειά ἐστιν 6 Κύριος, καὶ οὐκ ἔστιν ἄλλης σοφίας δεύτεροςʼ ἀλλὰ μόνος οὗτός ἐστι διʼ οὗ τὰ πάντα πεποίηκεν 6 Πατήρ, καὶ ἐν αὐτῷ συνεστήσατο τῶν γενητῶν τὰς ποικίλας οὐσίαςʼ διʼ αὐτοῦ τε γνωρίζεται οἷς ἂν ἐθέλοι· καὶ έν αὐτῷ τὴν τῶν πάντων πρόνοιαν ποιεῖται καί ἐργάζεται. Μόνον γὰρ τοῦτον οἶδε τοῦ Θεοῦ Λόγον καὶ Διονύσιος. Αὕτη τοῦ Διονυσίου ἠ πίστις· ὀλίγα γὰρ ἐκ τῶν ἐπιστολῶν αὐτοῦ συναγαγὼν ἔγραψα, δυνάμενα παρασχεῖν σοι μὲν ἀφορμὴν εἷς τὸ πλείονα προστιθέναι, τοῖς δὲ Ἀρειανοῖς μεγίστην αἰσχύνην διὰ τήν κατὰ τοῦ ἐπισκόπου συκοφαντίαν. Ἐν πᾶσι γὰρ καί καθʼ ἕκαστον διʼ ὧν ἔγραψεν, ἤλεγξεν αὐτῶν τὴν κακοφροσύνην, καί τὴν αʼίρεσιν αὐτῶν ἐστηλίτευσεν.

Toutōn ē ouk ēkouse pote Areios, ē akousas >yk enoēsen 6 amathēs; ouk an gar, heiʼper ēn thoē sas, katepseudeto tosouton kata tou episkopouo illa pantōs kai autan hōs hēmas eloidorei dia to pros tēn alētheian misos. Christomachos gar ōn, ouk oknēsei kaitous ta Christou phronountas diōkein, hōs autos 6 Kyrios proeirēken; Ei eme ediōxan, kai hymas diōxousin. Ē ei nomizousin hoi prostatai tēs asebeias homophrona ton Dionysion heautois einai, grapsatōsan tauta kai homologeitōsan; grapsatōsan tēn ampelon kai tdn geōrgon, ta skaphos kai ton naupēgon. Kai hama homologeitōsan kai haper eipen apologoumenos to omoousion; kai to ek tēs ousias einai ton Huion, kai to aïdion, kai ton noun pros ton logon, tēn te pēgēn, kai ton potamon, kai ta allon ’hina kan ek tēs diaphoras gnōsi, pōs ekeina min katʼ oikonomian, tauta de, hōs 6 tēs eu; sebous pisteōs bouletai logos, eirēke. Kai loipon tauta legontes anairōsin haper katʼ autōn toutōn ephronēsan. Ti gar kan engys echei tōn ’Dreiou kakōn hē Dionysiou pistis s Ouch 6 men ’Dreios katʼ epinoian legei ton Logon, 6 de Dionysios alēthinon kai physei Logon tou Theou? Kai 6 min apoo xenoi ton logon apo tou Patros; 6 de idion kai adiaireton tę̄s tou Patros ousias auton einai didaskei, hōsper estin ho logos pros ton noun, kai potamos pros tēn pēgēn. Et min houn diairein kai apoxenoun ton logon kai ton noun tis dynatai, ē ton potamon kai tēn pēgēn merisai, kai teichisas dielein; ē ton potamēn eterousion eipein pros tēn pēgēn, kai xenon to hydōr deixai, ē to apaugasma tolmą dielein apo tou phōtos kai eipein ex heteras ousias einai to apaugasma, kai mē ek tou phōtos, mainesthō meta ’Dreiou; 6 gar toioutos mēde noun anthrōpinon. echōn eti phanēsetai; ei de adiaireta tauta oiden hē physis, kai to toutōn gennēma idion, mēte ta Areiou tis eti loipon phroneitō, mēte Dionysion diaballetōo alla kai mallon ek toutōn autou thaumazetō tēn te tou logou leukotēta, kai tēn tēs pisteōs orthotēta. Hoti gar pros tēn manian Areiou legontos allon einai ton en tǭ Theǭ Logon, kai allon peri hou phēsin ’ho Iōannēs, En archę̄ ēn 6 Logos kai allēn men idian sophian einai en tǭ Theǭ, allēn de peri hēs phēsin 6 Apostolos; Christos Theou Dynamis kai Theou Sophia; palin 6 Dionysios anthistatai kai diaballei tēn toiautēn kakodoxian; dra palin pōs en tǭ deuterǭ bibliǭ graphei peri toutōn houtōs; ‹‹ En archę̄ ēn 6 Logos; allʼ ouk ēn Logos 6 ton Logon proemenos; ēn gar 6 Logos pros ton Theon. Sophia gegenētai 6 Koriosʼ ouk ēn oun sophia ho tēn sophian aneis ; Egō gar ēmēn, phēsin, prosechairen. Alētheia estin 6 Christoso Eulogētos de, phēsin, 6 Theos tēs alētheias; ›› Entautha kai Sabellion kai ’Areion anatrepei, kai amphoteras tas haireseis isas en asebeią deiknysinʼ oute gar Logos estin 6 tou Logou Patēr, oute poiēma esti to ek tou Patros, alla idion tēs ousias autou gennēma. Palin te ouk esti Patēr 6 proelthōn Logos; oude palin ek pollōn heis estin houtos Logos, alla monos esti tou Patros Huios, alēthinos kai physei gnēsios, ho kai nyn hōn en autǭ, kai aïdiōs kai adiairetōs ōn ex autou. Houtō kai sophia kai alētheia estin 6 Kyrios, kai ouk estin allēs sophias deuterosʼ alla monos houtos esti diʼ hou ta panta pepoiēken 6 Patēr, kai en autǭ synestēsato tōn genētōn tas poikilas ousiasʼ diʼ autou te gnōrizetai hois an etheloi; kai en autǭ tēn tōn pantōn pronoian poieitai kai ergazetai. Monon gar touton oide tou Theou Logon kai Dionysios. Hautē tou Dionysiou ē pistis; oliga gar ek tōn epistolōn autou synagagōn egrapsa, dynamena paraschein soi men aphormēn heis to pleiona prostithenai, tois de Areianois megistēn aischynēn dia tēn kata tou episkopou sykophantian. En pasi gar kai kathʼ hekaston diʼ hōn egrapsen, ēlenxen autōn tēn kakophrosynēn, kai tēn aʼiresin autōn estēliteusen.

Either Arius never heard these things, or, having heard them, the ignorant man did not understand them; for if he had understood, he would not have lied so grossly against the bishop, but would surely have reviled him too, as he does us, out of hatred for the truth. For being a Christ-fighter, he will not hesitate to persecute those who hold the views of Christ as well, as the Lord himself foretold: “If they persecuted me, they will persecute you too.” Or if the champions of impiety think that Dionysius is of one mind with them, let them write these things and confess them. Let them write of the vine and the vinedresser, the boat and the shipbuilder; and at the same time let them confess also what he said in his defense—“of the same essence,” and that the Son is from the essence, and is eternal, and the mind in relation to the word, and the spring and the river, and the rest—so that from the very difference they may at least learn how he said the former by way of accommodation, and the latter as the account of the pious faith requires. And then, by saying these things, let them do away with what they have thought against these very things. For what is there in the faith of Dionysius that comes even close to the evils of Arius? Does not Arius say that the Word is Word only in notion, while Dionysius says he is the true and natural Word of God? And the one estranges the Word from the Father, while the other teaches that he is proper to and inseparable from the essence of the Father, as the word is to the mind and the river to the spring. If, then, anyone can divide and estrange the word and the mind, or part the river and the spring and separate them by a wall, or call the river of a different essence from the spring and show its water to be foreign, or dares to separate the radiance from the light and say that the radiance is from another essence and not from the light, let him rave with Arius; for such a person will be seen no longer to have even a human mind. But if nature knows these to be inseparable, and their offspring proper to them, let no one any longer hold the views of Arius nor slander Dionysius; but rather let him admire, from these passages, the clarity of his speech and the correctness of his faith. [25] For that Dionysius again opposes and attacks the madness of Arius, who says that the Word in God is one, and he of whom John says, “In the beginning was the Word,” is another, and that God’s own wisdom in him is one, and that of which the apostle says, “Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God,” is another—see again how he writes on these matters in the second book: “In the beginning was the Word; but he who put forth the Word was not Word; for the Word was with God. The Lord became Wisdom; he who sent forth Wisdom, then, was not Wisdom; for ‘I was,’ it says, ‘she in whom he delighted.’ Christ is Truth; ‘but blessed,’ it says, ‘is the God of truth.’” Here he overthrows both Sabellius and Arius, and shows both heresies to be equal in impiety. For neither is the Father of the Word himself the Word, nor is what is from the Father a thing made, but the proper offspring of his essence. Again, the Word who came forth is not the Father; nor again is this Word one out of many, but he alone is Son of the Father, true and genuine by nature, who both is now in him and is eternally and inseparably from him. So the Lord is Wisdom and Truth, and is not second to some other wisdom; but he alone is the one through whom the Father made all things, and in whom he established the various essences of originated things; through him he is made known to whomever he wills, and in him he exercises and works his providence over all things. For Dionysius too knows this one alone as Word of God. This is the faith of Dionysius; for I have written after collecting a few things from his letters, which can give you occasion to add more, and give the Arians the greatest shame for their slander against the bishop. For in all things, and in each of the things he wrote, he refuted their perversity and exposed their heresy.

John 15:20 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 1:24 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 1:30 (allusion, medium confidence) · Prov 8:30 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Dionysius’s teaching on the true Word, inseparable from the Father as river from spring, overthrows both Arius and Sabellius.

  • Chapter 25 begins at “[25]”; its numeral is debris in the scan, removed by a logged correction.
  • John 15:20; John 1:1; 1 Cor 1:24; 1 Cor 1:30 (“became wisdom”); Prov 8:30; “Blessed is the God of truth” is 1 Esd 4:40.
  • Dionysius of Alexandria, Refutation and Defense, book 2, quoted.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR garble of σκει ὥσπερ; stray chapter numeral and debris): διδά- UXEt'tDQ ἔστιν → διδάσκει, ὥσπερ ἔστιν; 51Ἶ 25.”Οτι → Ὅτι.

Extrabiblical texts: Dionysius of Alexandria (Dionysius of Alexandria (letters and fragments); quotation); 1 Esd 4:40 (1 Esdras [in EO, ETH canons]; quotation)

Topics: Christology, Trinity, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Athanasius, Dion. 24 (PG 25:516a–517b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/athanasius-sententia-dionysii/16/#p-24). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 26

26PG 25:517b–520c

Οὐκοῦν ἀπὸ τούτων δείκνυται καὶ ἡ πρὸς Εὐ· φράνορα καὶ Ἀρμώνιον ἐπιστολὴ, διανοίᾳ ἄλλῃ κατʼ οἰκονομίαν γραφεῖσα παρʼ αὐτοῦ· τοῦτο γὰρ καὶ ἡ ἀπολογία αὐτοῦ δείκνυσι. Καὶ ἔστιν ἀληθῶς τυπος οὗτος πιθανὸς πρὸς ἀνατροπὴν τῆς Σαβελλίου μανίας, ὥστε τὸν βουλόμενον ταχέως διελέγχειν τοὺς τοιούτους μή ἀπὸ τῶν σημαινόντων τὴν θεότητα τοῦ Λόγου ποιεῖσθαι τὴν ἀρχήν ὅτι Λόγος, καὶ Σοφία, καὶ Δόναμίς ἐστιν 6 Υἱὸς, καὶ ὅτι Ἐγὼ καὶ 6 Πατὴρ ἓν ἒσμεψ ’ίνα μὴ, τὰ καλῶς εἰρημένα παρεξηγούμενο ἐκεῖνοι, πρόφασιν τῆς ἀναισχύντου φιλονεικίας ἑαυτῶν, τὰ τοιαῦτα πορίσωνται, ἀκούοντες, ὅτι Ἐγιί καὶ 6 Πατὴρ ἔν ἐσμεν, καὶ, Ὁ δωρακὼς ἰμὶ ἑώρακε τὸν Πατὲραι ἀλλὰ τὰ ἀνθρωπίνως εἰρημένα περὶτοῦ Σωτῆρος προβάλλειν, ὥσπερ αὐτὸς πεποίηκεν· οἷά ἐστι τὸ πεινᾷν, τὸ κοπιᾷν, καὶ, ὅτι ἄμπελος. καὶ ηὔχετο, καὶ πέπονθεν· ὅσῳ γὰρ ταῦτα ταπεινὰ λέγεται, τοσούτῳ δείκνυται μὴ 6 Πατὴρ γενόμενος ἅνθρωπος. ’Δνάγκη γὰρ, καὶ ἀμπέλου λεγομένου τοῦ Κυρίου, εἶναι καῖ μεωργόν· καὶ εὖχομένου αὐτοῦ, εἶναι τὸν ἐπακούοντα· καὶ αἱτοῦνο τος αὐτοῦ, εἶναι τὸν διδόντα. Τὰ Si τοιαῦτα μᾶλλον εὐκολώτερον τήν τῶν Σαβελλιανῶν μανίαν δείκνυσιν ὅτιὲτεροςθ εὐχόμενος, ἕτερος 6 ἐπακούων, καὶ ἄλλος ἡ ἄμπελος, καὶ ἄλλος 6 γεωργός. Ὅσα γᾲρ ὡς ἁποξενοῦντα τὸν Υἱὸν ἀπὸ τοῦ Πατρός λέγεται ῥητὰ, ταῦτα διὰ τὴν σάρκα, ἢν διʼ τί,μᾶ ἰφόρεσε, λέγεται περὶ αὐτοῦ. ξένα γὰρ τὰ γενηέὶ κατὰ φύσιν ’ἐστὶ τοῦ Θεοῦ. Διά τοῦτο γοῦν ἐπειδὴ τῆς σαρκὸς γενηερ τῆς οὔσης γέγονεν, ὡς 6 Ἰωάννης φησίν, 6 Λόγος σὰρξ,καίτοι κατὰ φύσιν ἵδιος καὶ ἀδιαίρετος ὢν τοῖν Πατρὸς, ὅμως διʼ αὐτὴν λὲγιται καὶ 6 Πατὴρ ματ κρὰν ἀπʼ αὐτοῦʼ τὰ γὰρ τῆς σαρκὸς ’ίδια αὐτὸς ἂν· ἔχεται περὶ αὐτοῦ Myso-01v ἵνα δειχθῇ, ὅτι οὐκ ἄλλου, ἀλλʼ αὐτοῦ ἦν ἴδιον τὸ σῶμα. Τοιαύτης δὲ τῆς διανοίας οὔσης, ταχύτερον ἐλεγχθήσεται Σαβἑλλιος, ὅτι μὴ ἔστιν 6 Πατὴρ 6 γενόμενος σὰρξ, ἀλλῗ 6 τούτου Λόγος, ὀ καὶ ταύτην λυτρούμενος καὶ προσάγων τῷ Πατρί. Οὕτω δὲ διελέγξας καὶ πείσας, λοιπὸν καὶ περὶ τῆς τοῦ Λόγου θεότητος ἑτοιμότερον διδάξειο ὅτι Λόγος καὶ Σοφία, Υἱὸς καὶ Δύνςο μις, ἀπαύγασμα καί ’χαρασκτήρ. ’Δνάγκη γὰρ καὶ ἐνταῦθα πάλιν νοεῖν, ὅττι, τοῦ Λόγου ὄντος, εἶναι δεῖ καὶ τὸν Πατέρα τοῦ Λόγου· καὶ σοφίας οὕο-ης, εἶναικαὶ τὸν ταύτης γονέα· καὶ ἀπαυγασματος ὄντος, εἶναι καὶ τὸ φῶς· καὶ οὕτως εἶναι τὸν Υἱὸν καὶ τὸν Πατέρα ἓν.

Oukoun apo toutōn deiknytai kai hē pros Eu; phranora kai Armōnion epistolē, dianoią allę̄ katʼ oikonomian grapheisa parʼ autou; touto gar kai hē apologia autou deiknysi. Kai estin alēthōs typos houtos pithanos pros anatropēn tēs Sabelliou manias, hōste ton boulomenon tacheōs dielenchein tous toioutous mē apo tōn sēmainontōn tēn theotēta tou Logou poieisthai tēn archēn hoti Logos, kai Sophia, kai Donamis estin 6 Huios, kai hoti Egō kai 6 Patēr hen esmeps ’ina mē, ta kalōs eirēmena parexēgoumeno ekeinoi, prophasin tēs anaischyntou philoneikias heautōn, ta toiauta porisōntai, akouontes, hoti Egii kai 6 Patēr en esmen, kai, Ho dōrakōs imi heōrake ton Paterai alla ta anthrōpinōs eirēmena peritou Sōtēros proballein, hōsper autos pepoiēken; hoia esti to peinąn, to kopiąn, kai, hoti ampelos. kai ēucheto, kai peponthen; hosǭ gar tauta tapeina legetai, tosoutǭ deiknytai mē 6 Patēr genomenos hanthrōpos. ’Dnankē gar, kai ampelou legomenou tou Kyriou, einai kai meōrgon; kai euchomenou autou, einai ton epakouonta; kai haitouno tos autou, einai ton didonta. Ta Si toiauta mallon eukolōteron tēn tōn Sabellianōn manian deiknysin hotieterosth euchomenos, heteros 6 epakouōn, kai allos hē ampelos, kai allos 6 geōrgos. Hosa gąr hōs hapoxenounta ton Huion apo tou Patros legetai rhēta, tauta dia tēn sarka, ēn diʼ ti,ma iphorese, legetai peri autou. xena gar ta genēei kata physin ’esti tou Theou. Dia touto goun epeidē tēs sarkos genēer tēs ousēs gegonen, hōs 6 Iōannēs phēsin, 6 Logos sarx,kaitoi kata physin hidios kai adiairetos ōn toin Patros, homōs diʼ autēn legitai kai 6 Patēr mat kran apʼ autouʼ ta gar tēs sarkos ’idia autos an; echetai peri autou Myso-01v hina deichthę̄, hoti ouk allou, allʼ autou ēn idion to sōma. Toiautēs de tēs dianoias ousēs, tachyteron elenchthēsetai Sabellios, hoti mē estin 6 Patēr 6 genomenos sarx, allï 6 toutou Logos, o kai tautēn lytroumenos kai prosagōn tǭ Patri. Houtō de dielenxas kai peisas, loipon kai peri tēs tou Logou theotētos hetoimoteron didaxeio hoti Logos kai Sophia, Huios kai Dynso mis, apaugasma kai ’charasktēr. ’Dnankē gar kai entautha palin noein, hotti, tou Logou ontos, einai dei kai ton Patera tou Logou; kai sophias houo-ēs, einaikai ton tautēs gonea; kai apaugasmatos ontos, einai kai to phōs; kai houtōs einai ton Huion kai ton Patera hen.

So from these it is shown that the letter to Euphranor and Ammonius too was written by him with another intention, by way of accommodation; for his defense also shows this. And this is truly a persuasive method for overthrowing the madness of Sabellius: whoever wishes to refute such men quickly should not begin from the texts that signify the divinity of the Word—that the Son is Word and Wisdom and Power, and “I and the Father are one”—lest they, misinterpreting what is well said, take such texts as a pretext for their shameless contentiousness, hearing “I and the Father are one” and “He who has seen me has seen the Father”; but he should bring forward what is said of the Savior in a human way, as Dionysius himself did, such as hungering, being weary, being the vine, praying, and suffering. For the lowlier these things are said to be, the more it is shown that it was not the Father who became man. For if the Lord is called the vine, there must also be a vinedresser; if he prays, there must be one who hears; if he asks, one who gives. Such things show up the madness of the Sabellians more easily: that he who prays is one, and he who hears another; the vine one, and the vinedresser another. For whatever texts are said as if estranging the Son from the Father are said of him because of the flesh which he bore for our sake; for originated things are foreign to God by nature. For this reason, since the Word came to be of the flesh, which is originated—as John says, “the Word became flesh”—although he is by nature proper to the Father and inseparable from him, yet because of it the Father too is said to be far from him; for he himself allows the things proper to the flesh to be said of him, to show that the body was not another’s but his own. This being the meaning, Sabellius will be more quickly refuted, that it is not the Father who became flesh but his Word, who also redeems the flesh and brings it to the Father. And having refuted and persuaded him in this way, one will then teach more readily about the divinity of the Word too: that he is Word and Wisdom, Son and Power, Radiance and Impress. For here again one must understand that, since the Word exists, there must also be the Father of the Word; and since Wisdom exists, there must be its parent; and since the radiance exists, there must also be the light; and so the Son and the Father are one.

John 10:30 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:9 (quotation, high confidence) · John 15:1 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 1:3 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Against the Sabellians one should begin from Christ’s human traits, which show that the Son, not the Father, became flesh, and then teach his divinity.

  • John 10:30; John 14:9; John 1:14; Heb 1:3 (radiance and impress).

Topics: Christology, Heresy, Trinity

Cite (SBL): Athanasius, Dion. 26 (PG 25:517b–520c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/athanasius-sententia-dionysii/16/#p-26). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 27

27PG 25:520c–521b

Ταῦτα Διονύσιος εἰδὼς ἔγραψε ο καὶ ἐν ἑκείνοις μὲν Σαβἑλλιον ἐφίμωσεν, ἐν τούτοις δὲ τὴν ’Λρειανήν αʼίρεσιν κατέστρεψε. καὶ γὰρ ὥσπερ ἀνατρέπει Σαβἐλλιον τὰ ἀνθρώπινα τοῦ Σωτῆρος, οὕτω καὶ πρὸς τοὺς Ἀρειομανίτας οὐκ ἀπὸ τῶν ἀνθρωπίνων, ἀλλʼ ἀπὸ τῶν σημαινόντων τήν θεότητα vbis Λόγου ποιεῖσθαι χρὴ τοὺς κατʼ αὐτῶν ἰλίιγχους ἶνα μὴ καὶ οὗτοι, τὰ διὰ τὸ σῷμα λεχθᾶντα, περὶ τοῦ Κυρίου παρεξηγούμενοι, νομίσωσι τοιοῦτον εἶναι τᾶν Λόγον, οἶοί ἐσμεν ἡμεῖς οἱ ἅνθρωποι, καὶ λοιπὸν ἐπιμείνωσι τῇ ἑαυτῶν μανίᾳ. "Av δὲ διδαχθῶσι καὶ οὗτοι περί τῆς θεότητος, καταγνώσονται μὲν τῆς ἑαυτῶν κακονοίας, εύκογώτερον δὲ μαθόντες, ὅτι 6 Λόγος ᾱᾶρξ εγενετο, διακρινοῦσι λοιπὸν καὶ οὗτοι τὰ] ἀνθρώπινα, καὶ τὰ τῇ θεότητι ἁρμόζοντα. Τούτων δʼ οὕτως ἐχόντων, καὶ Διονυσίου τοῦ ἐπισκόπου δειχθέντος, ἐξ ὧν ἔγραψεν, εὐσεβοῦς, τί ποιήσουσι λοιπὸν οἱ Ἀρειομανῖται ;Τίνος ἄρα πάλιν, ἐλεγχθέντες ἀπὸ τούτων, καταψεύσονται ; Ἀνάγκηʼ γὰρ αὖ· τοὺς, ἐκπεσόντας ἀπὸ τοῦ θεμελίου τῶν ἀποστόλων, καὶ εὐσάλευτον ἔχοντας τήν διάνοιαν, ζητεῖν ἔρεισμα, καὶμὴ εὑρίσκοντας, καταψεύδεσθαι λοιπὸν τῶν Πατὲρων. Ἀλλʼ οὐδεὶς αὐτοῖς ἔτι πιστεύσει, κᾶν βιάσωνται συκοφαντεῖν· κατεγνώσθη γὰρ ἡ αʼίρεσις παρά πᾶσιν· εἰ μὴ ἄρα περὶ τοῦ διαβόλου λοιπὸν φθέγξονται · αὐτὸς γὰρ μόνος ἐστὶν αὐτοῖς σύμφωνοςʼ μᾶλλον δὲ αὐτός ἐστιν αὐτοῖς ὁ καὶ τήν αἳρεσιν ὕποβάλλων. Τίς οὖν ἔτι τούτους, ὢν ὁ διάβολός ἐστι καθηγεμὼν, Χρεστιανοὺς ὀνομάσειε, καὶ μὴ μᾶλλον διαβολικοὺς, ’ἕνα μή μόνον Χριστομάχοι, ἀλλὰ καὶ διαβολικοὶ καλῶνται, εἶ μὴ ἄρα μεταβάλλονται, καὶ ἢν μὶν ἐπενόησαν ἀσέβειαν ἀρνήσωνται, τὴν δὲ ἀλήθειαν ἐπιγνῶσι ; τοῦτο γὰρ αὐτοὺς μὲν ὠφελή-

Tauta Dionysios eidōs egrapse o kai en hekeinois men Sabellion ephimōsen, en toutois de tēn ’Lreianēn aʼiresin katestrepse. kai gar hōsper anatrepei Sabellion ta anthrōpina tou Sōtēros, houtō kai pros tous Areiomanitas ouk apo tōn anthrōpinōn, allʼ apo tōn sēmainontōn tēn theotēta vbis Logou poieisthai chrē tous katʼ autōn iliinchous ina mē kai houtoi, ta dia to sǭma lechthanta, peri tou Kyriou parexēgoumenoi, nomisōsi toiouton einai tan Logon, oioi esmen hēmeis hoi hanthrōpoi, kai loipon epimeinōsi tę̄ heautōn manią. "Av de didachthōsi kai houtoi peri tēs theotētos, katagnōsontai men tēs heautōn kakonoias, eukogōteron de mathontes, hoti 6 Logos aarx egeneto, diakrinousi loipon kai houtoi ta] anthrōpina, kai ta tę̄ theotēti harmozonta. Toutōn dʼ houtōs echontōn, kai Dionysiou tou episkopou deichthentos, ex hōn egrapsen, eusebous, ti poiēsousi loipon hoi Areiomanitai ?Tinos ara palin, elenchthentes apo toutōn, katapseusontai ? Anankēʼ gar au; tous, ekpesontas apo tou themeliou tōn apostolōn, kai eusaleuton echontas tēn dianoian, zētein ereisma, kaimē heuriskontas, katapseudesthai loipon tōn Paterōn. Allʼ oudeis autois eti pisteusei, kan biasōntai sykophantein; kategnōsthē gar hē aʼiresis para pasin; ei mē ara peri tou diabolou loipon phthenxontai ; autos gar monos estin autois symphōnosʼ mallon de autos estin autois ho kai tēn hairesin hypoballōn. Tis oun eti toutous, ōn ho diabolos esti kathēgemōn, Chrestianous onomaseie, kai mē mallon diabolikous, ’hena mē monon Christomachoi, alla kai diabolikoi kalōntai, ei mē ara metaballontai, kai ēn min epenoēsan asebeian arnēsōntai, tēn de alētheian epignōsi ? touto gar autous men ōphelē-

Knowing these things, Dionysius wrote; and in those letters he muzzled Sabellius, while in these he overthrew the Arian heresy. For as the human things of the Savior overthrow Sabellius, so against the Ariomaniacs one must draw the refutations not from the human things but from what signifies the divinity of the Word, lest these men too, misinterpreting what is said of the Lord because of the body, think that the Word is such as we men are, and so persist in their madness. But if these too are taught about his divinity, they will condemn their own malice; and having learned more easily that the Word became flesh, they too will thereafter distinguish the human things from those befitting the divinity. This being so, and Dionysius the bishop having been shown from what he wrote to be pious, what will the Ariomaniacs do now? Whom will they slander next, now that they are refuted on this count? For since they have fallen from the foundation of the apostles and have an unstable mind, they must seek some prop, and, not finding one, must then slander the fathers. But no one will believe them any longer, even if they force themselves to slander; for the heresy has been condemned by all—unless perhaps they will next speak about the devil; for he alone agrees with them; or rather, it is he who suggests the heresy to them. Who, then, would any longer call those whose leader is the devil Christians, and not rather devilish, so that they may be called not only Christ-fighters but devilish too—unless indeed they change, and deny the impiety they invented, and acknowledge the truth? For this would benefit them …

Eph 2:20 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Against Sabellius, Christ’s human traits are decisive; against the Arians, his divine titles; the Arians, having no support in the fathers, follow only the devil.

  • Eph 2:20 (foundation of the apostles); John 1:14.
  • The text breaks off in the edition in mid-word (ὠφελή-); the rest is lost.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR debris; OCR garble): Σαηῆροςρξίτω → Σωτῆρος, οὕτω; Β ρ Ἰ \ fl ς Ι π I ’ΝΚ \ ε διαβολικοὺς → διαβολικοὺς.

Topics: Heresy, Christology

Cite (SBL): Athanasius, Dion. 27 (PG 25:520c–521b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/athanasius-sententia-dionysii/16/#p-27). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Migne PG 25–26 scan text; compared in full afterwards with NPNF² 4.