City of God 8.26–9.7

Latin text: Hoffmann, CSEL 40 (Latin text: Dombart and Hoffmann, De civitate dei (CSEL 40, 1899-1900), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 2 (1887).

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Chapter 8

8.26CSEL 40:402–405

CAPUT XXVI. Quod omnis religio paganorum circa homines mortuos fuerit inplicata. Sane aduertendum est, quo modo iste Aegyptius, cum doleret tempus esse uenturum, quo illa auferrentur ex Aegypto, quae fatetur a multum errantibus et incredulis et a cultu diuinae religionis auersis esse instituta, ait inter cetera: Tunc terra ista, sanctissima sedes delubrorum adque templorum, sepulcrorum erit mortuorumque plenissima; quasi uero, si illa non auferrentur, non essent homines morituri, aut alibi essent mortui ponendi quam in terra; et utique, quanto plus uolueretur temporis et dierum, tanto maior esset numerus sepulcrorum propter maiorem numerum mortuorum. Sed hoc uidetur dolere, quod memoriae martyrum nostrorum templis eorum delubrisque succederent, ut uidelicet, qui haec legunt animo a nobis auerso adque peruerso, putent a paganis cultos fuisse deos in templis, a nobis autem coli mortuos in sepulcris. Tanta enim homines inpii caecitate in montes quodam modo offendunt resque oculos suos ferientes nolunt uidere, ut non adtendant in omnibus litteris paganorum aut non inueniri aut uix inueniri deos, qui non homines fuerint mortuisque diuini honores delati sint. Omitto, quod Varro dicit omnes ab eis mortuos existimari manes deos et probat per ea sacra, quae omnibus fere mortuis exhibentur, ubi et ludos commemorat funebres, tamquam hoc sit maximum diuinitatis indicium, quod non soleant ludi nisi numinibus celebrari. Hermes ipse, de quo nunc agitur, in eodem ipso libro, ubi quasi futura praenuntiando deplorans ait: Tunc terra ista, sanctissima sedes delubrorum adque templorum, sepulcrorum erit mortuorumque plenissima, deos Aegypti homines mortuos esse testatur. Cum enim dixisset proauos suos multum errantes circa deorum rationem, incredulos et non animaduertentes ad cultum religionemque diuinam, inuenisse artem, qua efficerent deos: (Cui inuentae, inquit, adiunxerunt uirtutem de mundi natura conuenientem eamque miscentes, quoniam animas facere non poterant, euocantes animas daemonum uel angelorum eas indiderunt imaginibus sanctis diuinisque mysteriis, per quas idola et bene faciendi et male uires habere potuissent. Deinde sequitur tamquam hoc exemplis probaturus et dicit: Auus enim tuus, o Asclepi, medicinae primus inuentor, cui templum consecratum est in monte Libyae circa litus crocodilorum, in quo eius iacet mundanus homo, id est corpus; reliquus enim, uel potius totus, si est homo totus in sensu uitae, melior remeauit in caelum, omnia etiam nunc hominibus adiumenta praestans infirmis numine nunc suo, quae solent medicinae arte praeberi. Ecce dixit mortuum coli pro deo in eo loco, ubi habebat sepulcrum, falsus ac fallens, quod remeauit in caelum. Adiungens deinde aliud (Hermes, inquit, cuius auitum mihi nomen est, nonne in sibi cognomine patria consistens omnes mortales undique uenientes adiuuat adque conseruat? Hic enim Hermes maior, id est Mercurius, quem dicit auum suum fuisse, in Hermopoli, hoc est in sui nominis ciuitate, esse perhibetur. Ecce duos deos dicit homines fuisse, Aesculapium et Mercurium. Sed de Aesculapio et Graeci et Latini hoc idem sentiunt; Mercurium autem multi non putant fuisse mortalem, quem tamen iste auum suum fuisse testatur. At enim alius est ille, alius iste, quamuis eodem nomine nuncupentur. Non multum pugno, alius ille sit, alius iste; uerum et iste; sicut Aesculapius, ex homine deus secundum testimonium tanti aput suos uiri, huius Trismegisti, nepotis sui. Adhuc addit et dicit: Isin uero Osiris quam multa bona praestare propitiam, quantis obesse scimus iratam! Deinde ut ostenderet ex hoc genere esse deos, quos illa arte homines faciunt (unde dat intellegi daemones se opinari ex hominum mortuorum animis extitisse, quos per artem, quam inuenerunt homines multum errantes, increduli et inreligiosi, ait inditos simulacris, quia hi, qui tales deos faciebant, animas facere non utique poterant), cum de Iside dixisset, quod commemoraui, quantis obesse scimus iratam, secutus adiunxit: (Terrenis etenim dis adque mundanis facile est irasci, utpote qui sint ab hominibus ex utraque natura facti adque conpositi. Ex utraque natura dicit ex anima et corpore, ut pro anima sit daemon, pro corpore simulacrum. Unde contigit, inquit, ab Aegyptiis haec sancta animalia nuncupari colique per singulas ciuitates eorum animas, quorum sunt consecratae uiuentes, ita ut eorum legibus incolantur et eorum nominibus nuncupentur.) Ubi est illa uelut querela luctuosa, quod terra Aegypti, sanctissima sedes delubrorum adque templorum, sepulcrorum futura esset mortuorumque plenissima? Nempe spiritus fallax, cuius instinctu Hermes ista dicebat, per eum ipsum coactus est confiteri iam tunc illam terram sepulcrorum et mortuorum, quos pro dis colebant, fuisse plenissimam. Sed dolor daemonum per eum loquebatur, qui suas futuras poenas aput sanctorum martyrum memorias inminere maerebant. In multis enim talibus locis torquentur et confitentur et de possessis hominum corporibus eiciuntur.

Chapter 26. That all the religion of the pagans was bound up with dead men.

We must certainly notice how this Egyptian, when he grieved that a time was to come in which those things would be taken away from Egypt which he admits were instituted by men who greatly erred, were unbelieving, and were turned away from the worship of divine religion, says among other things: “Then this land, the most holy seat of shrines and temples, will be completely full of tombs and dead men” — as though, if those things were not taken away, men would not die, or the dead would have to be laid elsewhere than in the earth; and certainly, the more time and days rolled on, the greater would be the number of tombs because of the greater number of the dead. But he seems to grieve at this, that the memorials of our martyrs would succeed to their temples and shrines, so that, evidently, those who read these things with minds turned away from us and perverse may think that by the pagans gods were worshipped in temples, but by us the dead are worshipped in tombs. For with such blindness do impious men stumble, as it were, against mountains and refuse to see things that strike their eyes, that they do not notice that in all the literature of the pagans gods are not found, or hardly found, who were not men, and to whom, when dead, divine honors were paid. I pass over Varro's saying that all the dead are thought by them to be gods of the underworld (Manes), and his proving it by the rites that are performed for almost all the dead, where he also mentions funeral games, as though this were the greatest proof of divinity, that games are usually celebrated only for deities. Hermes himself, with whom we are now dealing, in that same book where, as if foretelling the future with lamentation, he says, “Then this land, the most holy seat of shrines and temples, will be completely full of tombs and dead men,” testifies that the gods of Egypt are dead men. For when he had said that his forefathers, erring greatly concerning the account of the gods, unbelieving and not turning their minds to worship and divine religion, discovered the art by which to make gods, he says: “To this discovery they joined a suitable power from the nature of the world; and mixing it, since they could not make souls, they called up the souls of demons or angels and put them into sacred images and divine mysteries, through which the idols might have the power of doing both good and evil.” Then he goes on, as if to prove this by examples, and says: “For your grandfather, O Asclepius, the first discoverer of medicine, to whom a temple has been consecrated on a mountain of Libya near the shore of the crocodiles, in which lies his worldly man, that is, his body — for the rest, or rather the whole, if the whole man is in the sense of life, has gone back, better, to heaven — even now provides by his divine power to sick men all the helps which are usually given by the art of medicine.” See, he said that a dead man is worshipped as a god in the place where he had his tomb, deceived and deceiving in saying that he went back to heaven. Then, adding another, he says: “Hermes, whose ancestral name I bear, does he not, dwelling in the city named after him, help and preserve all mortals who come from every side?” For this elder Hermes, that is, Mercury, whom he says was his grandfather, is said to be in Hermopolis, that is, in the city of his name. See, he says that two gods were men, Aesculapius and Mercury. About Aesculapius both Greeks and Latins think the same; but many do not think Mercury was mortal, whom this man nevertheless testifies was his grandfather. “But that one is one person and this another, though they are called by the same name.” I do not argue much; let that one be one and this another. Still this one too, like Aesculapius, became a god from a man, according to the testimony of so great a man among his people, this Trismegistus, his grandson. He adds further: “As for Isis, the wife of Osiris, how many good things we know she bestows when favorable, how many she harms when angry!” Then, to show that the gods whom men make by that art are of this kind (from which he gives us to understand that he thinks demons arose from the souls of dead men, whom he says were put into images by the art which men discovered who greatly erred, who were unbelieving and irreligious, since those who made such gods certainly could not make souls), when he had said of Isis what I have mentioned, “how many she harms when angry,” he went on to add: “For it is easy for earthly and worldly gods to be angry, since they have been made and composed by men from both natures.” By “from both natures” he means from soul and body, so that the demon stands for the soul and the image for the body. “Hence it has come about,” he says, “that these are called holy animals by the Egyptians, and that the souls of those who were consecrated while living are worshipped in each of their cities, so that the cities are governed by their laws and called by their names.” Where now is that mournful complaint, as it were, that the land of Egypt, the most holy seat of shrines and temples, would be completely full of tombs and dead men? Surely the deceitful spirit, at whose prompting Hermes said these things, was compelled through him to confess that even then that land was completely full of tombs and dead men, whom they worshipped as gods. But the grief of the demons spoke through him, who mourned that their future punishments were imminent at the memorials of the holy martyrs. For in many such places they are tortured and confess and are cast out of the bodies of men they have possessed.

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Summary: Augustine shows from Hermes' own words that the gods of Egypt were dead men, so that the pagans, not the Christians honoring the martyrs, are the worshippers of the dead.

  • Quotes the Latin Asclepius 24 and 37; Varro's remark on the dead as Manes is from the Divine Antiquities.

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  • Digital text corrected (OCR: o read as c; repeated word; stray hyphen; stray period for comma): succederent. ut → succederent, ut; nolunt uidere. ut non → nolunt uidere, ut non; animaduertentes animaduertentes → animaduertentes; natura- conuenientem → natura conuenientem; ncmen → nomen.

Extrabiblical texts: Corp. herm. Asclep. 24; 37 (Hermetic writings; quotation); Varro, Ant. rer. div. (Varro; allusion)

Topics: Martyrdom

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Civ. 8.26 (CSEL 40:402–405; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-civitate-dei/8-26/#p-8-26). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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8.27CSEL 40:405–407

CAPUT XXVII. De modo honoris, quem Christiani martyribus inpendunt. Nec tamen nos eisdem martyribus templa, sacerdotia, sacra et sacrificia constituimus, quoniam non ipsi, sed Deus eorum nobis est Deus. Honoramus sane memorias eorum tamquam sanctorum hominum Dei, qui usque ad mortem corporum suorum pro ueritate certarunt, ut innotesceret uera religio falsis fictisque conuictis; quod etiam si qui antea sentiebant, timendo reprimebant. Quis autem audiuit aliquando fidelium stantem sacerdotem ad altare, etiam super sanctum corpus martyris ad Dei honorem cultumque constructum, dicere in precibus: Offero tibi sacrificium Petre uel Paule uel Cypriane, cum aput eorum memorias offeratur Deo, qui eos et homines et martyres fecit et sanctis suis angelis caelesti honore sociauit, ut ea celebritate et Deo uero de illorum uictoriis gratias agamus et nos ad imitationem talium coronarum adque palmarum eodem inuocato in auxilium ex illorum memoriae renouatione adhortemur? Quaecumque igitur adhibentur religiosorum obsequia in martyrum locis, ornamenta sunt memoriarum, non sacra uel sacrificia mortuorum tamquam deorum. Quicumque etiam epulas suas eo deferunt (quod quidem a Christianis melioribus non fit, et in plerisque terrarum nulla talis est consuetudo) — tamen quicumque id faciunt, quas cum adposuerint, orant et auferunt, ut uescantur uel ex eis etiam indigentibus largiantur, sanctificari sibi eas uolunt per merita martyrum in nomine domini martyrum. Non autem esse ista sacrificia martyrum nouit, qui nouit unum, quod etiam illic offertur, sacrificium Christianorum. Nos itaque martyres nostros nec diuinis honoribus nec humanis criminibus colimus, sicut colunt illi deos suos, nec sacrificia illis offerimus, nec eorum probra in eorum sacra conuertimus. Nam de Iside, uxore Osiris, Aegyptia dea, et de parentibus eorum, qui omnes reges fuisse scribuntur (quibus parentibus suis illa cum sacrificaret, inuenit hordei segetem adque inde spicas marito regi et eius consiliario Mercurio demonstrauit, unde eandem et Cererem uolunt), quae et quanta mala non a poetis, sed mysticis eorum litteris memoriae mandata sint, sicut Leone sacerdote prodente ad Olympiadem matrem scribit Alexander, legant qui uolunt uel possunt, et recolant qui legerunt, et uideant quibus hominibus mortuis uel de quibus eorum factis tamquam dis sacra fuerint instituta. Absit ut eos, quamuis deos habeant, sanctis martyribus nostris, quos tamen deos non habemus, ulla ex parte audeant conparare. Sic enim non constituimus sacerdotes nec offerimus sacrificia martyribus nostris, quia incongruum indebitum inlicitum est adque uni Deo tantummodo debitum, ut nec criminibus suis nec ludis eos turpissimis oblectemus, ubi uel flagitia isti celebrant deorum suorum, si, cum homines essent, talia commiserunt, uel conficta delectamenta daemonum noxiorum, si homines non fuerunt. Ex isto genere daemonum Socrates non haberet deum, si haberet deum; sed fortasse homini ab illa arte faciendi deos alieno et innocenti illi inportauerint talem deum, qui eadem arte excellere uoluerunt. Quid ergo plura? Non esse spiritus istos colendos propter uitam beatam, quae post mortem futura est, nullus uel mediocriter prudens ambigit. Sed fortasse dicturi sunt deos quidem esse omnes bonos, daemones autem alios malos, alios bonos, et eos, per quos ad uitam in aeternum beatam perueniamus, colendos esse censebunt, quos bonos opinantur. Quod quale sit iam in uolumine sequenti uidendum est.

Chapter 27. On the manner of honor which Christians pay to the martyrs.

Yet we do not establish temples, priesthoods, rites, and sacrifices for these same martyrs, because not they, but their God, is our God. We do indeed honor their memorials as those of holy men of God, who contended for the truth even to the death of their bodies, so that the true religion might become known and false and fictitious ones be refuted — which even those who felt it before suppressed out of fear. But who of the faithful ever heard a priest standing at the altar, even one built over the holy body of a martyr for the honor and worship of God, say in his prayers, “I offer sacrifice to you, Peter, or Paul, or Cyprian”? For at their memorials sacrifice is offered to God, who made them both men and martyrs and joined them in heavenly honor to his holy angels; so that by that celebration we may both give thanks to the true God for their victories, and, by renewing their memory, exhort ourselves to imitate such crowns and palms, calling on the same God for help. Whatever acts of devotion, then, are paid by religious people at the places of the martyrs are adornments of their memorials, not rites or sacrifices of the dead as of gods. And whoever bring their meals there (which indeed is not done by the better Christians, and in most lands there is no such custom) — yet whoever do this, when they have set the food down, pray and take it away, to eat it or to give some of it to the needy; they wish it to be sanctified for them through the merits of the martyrs in the name of the Lord of the martyrs. But that these are not sacrifices to the martyrs is known by whoever knows the one sacrifice of the Christians, which is offered there too. We, then, do not worship our martyrs either with divine honors or with human crimes, as they worship their gods; we neither offer sacrifices to them nor turn their disgraces into their rites. For about Isis, the wife of Osiris, the Egyptian goddess, and about their parents, who are all written to have been kings — Isis, when she was sacrificing to her parents, found a crop of barley and showed the ears from it to the king her husband and his counsellor Mercury, whence they want her to be Ceres too — what and how great evils have been committed to memory not by poets but by their mystical writings, as Alexander writes to his mother Olympias on the disclosure of the priest Leo, let those read who will or can, and let those who have read recall them, and see to what dead men, or on account of what deeds of theirs, rites were instituted as to gods. Far be it that they, though they hold them to be gods, should dare to compare them in any part with our holy martyrs, whom nevertheless we do not hold to be gods. For we do not appoint priests or offer sacrifices to our martyrs, because that is unfitting, undue, unlawful, and due to the one God alone; and so we do not delight them either with their crimes or with most shameful plays, in which these men celebrate either the outrages of their gods, if they committed such things when they were men, or the invented delights of harmful demons, if they were not men. Socrates would not have had a god of this class of demons, if he had a god; but perhaps those who wished to excel in that art of making gods imposed such a god on a man who was a stranger to that art and innocent of it. What more, then? That these spirits are not to be worshipped for the sake of the happy life that is to come after death no one even moderately prudent doubts. But perhaps they will say that the gods indeed are all good, while of the demons some are bad and some good, and they will judge that those are to be worshipped through whom we may come to the life that is happy for eternity, namely those they think good. What this amounts to must be seen in the following volume.

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Summary: Augustine explains that Christians honor the martyrs' memorials but offer sacrifice only to God, whose one sacrifice is celebrated even at the martyrs' shrines.

  • The meals brought to martyrs' shrines were a North African custom which Ambrose and Augustine discouraged (compare Confessions 6.2). “The one sacrifice of the Christians” is the Eucharist. The letter of Alexander to Olympias is known only from such reports (no entry in the site's list of extrabiblical texts).

Topics: Martyrdom, Eucharist

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Civ. 8.27 (CSEL 40:405–407; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-civitate-dei/8-26/#p-8-27). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 9

9.1CSEL 40:407–408

CAPUT I. Ad quem articulum disputatio praemissa peruenerit et quid discutiendum sit de residua quaestione. Et bonos et malos deos esse quidam opinati sunt; quidam uero de dis meliora sentientes tantum eis honoris laudisque tribuerunt, ut nullum deorum malum credere auderent. Sed illi, qui deos quosdam bonos, quosdam malos esse dixerunt, daemones quoque appellauerunt nomine deorum, quamquam et deos, sed rarius, nomine daemonum, ita ut ipsum Iouem, quem uolunt esse regem ac principem ceterorum, ab Homero fateantur daemonem nuncupatum. Hi autem, qui omnes deos non nisi bonos esse adserunt et longe praestantiores eis hominibus, qui perhibentur boni, merito mouentur daemonum factis, quae negare non possunt; eaque nullo modo a dis, quos omnes bonos uolunt, committi posse existimantes differentiam inter deos et daemones adhibere coguntur, ut, quidquid eis merito displicet in operibus uel affectibus prauis, quibus uim suam manifestant occulti spiritus, id credant esse daemonum, non deorum. Sed quia eosdem daemones inter homines et deos ita medios constitutos putant, tamquam nullus deus homini misceatur, ut hinc perferant desiderata, inde referant inpetrata, adque hoc Platonici, praecipui philosophorum ac nobilissimi, sentiunt, cum quibus uelut cum excellentioribus placuit istam examinare quaestionem, utrum cultus plurimorum deorum prosit ad consequendam uitam beatam quae post mortem futura est: libro superiore quaesiuimus, quo pacto daemones, qui talibus gaudent, qualia boni et prudentes homines auersantur et damnant, id est sacrilega flagitiosa facinerosa non de quolibet homine, sed de ipsis dis figmenta poetarum et magicarum artium sceleratam puniendamque uiolentiam, possint quasi propinquiores et amiciores dis bonis conciliare homines bonos, et hoc nulla ratione posse conpertum est.

Chapter 1. To what point the preceding discussion has come, and what remains to be discussed of the question.

Some have held that there are both good and bad gods; but some, thinking better of the gods, have given them so much honor and praise that they did not dare to believe any god bad. But those who said that some gods are good and some bad also called the demons by the name of gods, and also, though more rarely, the gods by the name of demons, so that they admit that Jupiter himself, whom they want to be king and chief of the rest, was called a demon by Homer. But those who assert that all gods are good, and far more excellent than the men who are said to be good, are rightly troubled by the deeds of demons, which they cannot deny; and, thinking that these can in no way be committed by the gods, whom they want to be all good, they are compelled to make a distinction between gods and demons, so that whatever rightly displeases them in the depraved works or affections by which hidden spirits show their power, they believe to belong to demons, not gods. But they think these same demons are placed between men and gods as if no god mingles with man, so as to carry men's desires from here and bring back what has been obtained from there; and this is the view of the Platonists, the chief and noblest of the philosophers, with whom, as the more excellent, I have chosen to examine this question: whether the worship of many gods is of use for attaining the happy life that is to come after death. So in the preceding book we inquired how the demons, who delight in such things as good and prudent men shun and condemn — namely the sacrilegious, scandalous, and criminal fictions of the poets, not about any man at all but about the gods themselves, and the wicked and punishable violence of the magic arts — could, as though nearer and friendlier to the good gods, reconcile good men to them; and it was found that this can in no way be.

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Summary: Augustine recalls that Book 8 showed demons who love vice cannot reconcile good men to the good gods.

  • Homer calls the gods (including Zeus) daimones, e.g. Iliad 1.222.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: r read as l, word split): pel uenerit → peruenerit.

Extrabiblical texts: Homer, Il. 1.222 (Homer, Iliad; allusion)

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Civ. 9.1 (CSEL 40:407–408; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-civitate-dei/8-26/#p-9-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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9.2CSEL 40:408–409

CAPUT II. An inter daemones, quibus di superiores sunt, sit aliqua pars bonorum, quorum praesidio ad ueram beatitudinem possit humana anima peruenire. Proinde hic liber, sicut in illius fine promisimus, disputationem continere debebit de differentia (si quam uolunt esse) non deorum inter se, quos omnes bonos dicunt, nec de differentia deorum et daemonum, quorum illos ab hominibus longe alteque seiungunt, istos inter deos et homines conlocant; sed de differentia ipsorum daemonum, quod ad praesentem pertinet quaestionem. Aput plerosque enim usitatum est dici, alios bonos alios malos daemones; quae siue sit etiam Platonicorum, siue quorumlibet sententia, nequaquam eius est neglegenda discussio, ne quisquam uelut daemones bonos sequendos sibi esse arbitretur, per quos tamquam medios dis, quos omnes bonos credit, dum conciliari adfectat et studet, ut quasi cum eis possit esse post mortem, inretitus malignorum spirituum deceptusque fallacia longe aberret a uero Deo, cum quo solo et in quo solo et de quo solo anima humana, id est rationalis et intellectualis, beata est.

Chapter 2. Whether among the demons, to whom the gods are superior, there is any class of good ones, by whose protection the human soul could come to true happiness.

Accordingly this book, as we promised at the end of the last, will have to contain a discussion of the difference (if they want there to be one) not of the gods among themselves, all of whom they call good, nor of the difference between gods and demons, of whom they separate the former far and high from men and place the latter between gods and men, but of the difference among the demons themselves, as far as it pertains to the present question. For it is commonly said by most people that some demons are good and others bad; and whether this is the opinion of the Platonists or of anyone else, its discussion is by no means to be neglected, lest anyone think that he ought to follow supposedly good demons, through whom, as mediators, he tries and strives to be reconciled to the gods, whom he believes all to be good, so that he may be with them, as it were, after death — and so, ensnared and deceived by the deceit of malignant spirits, wanders far from the true God, with whom alone, in whom alone, and from whom alone the human soul, that is, the rational and intellectual soul, is happy.

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Summary: Augustine announces that Book 9 will ask whether some demons are good and could lead souls to happiness.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Civ. 9.2 (CSEL 40:408–409; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-civitate-dei/8-26/#p-9-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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9.3CSEL 40:409–410

CAPUT III. Quae daemonibus Apuleius adscribat, quibus cum rationem non subtrahat, nihil uirtutis adsignat. Quae igitur est differentia daemonum bonorum et malorum? Quando quidem Platonicus Apuleius de his uniuersaliter disserens et tam multa loquens de aeriis eorum corporibus de uirtutibus tacuit animorum, quibus essent praediti, si essent boni. Tacuit ergo beatitudinis causam, indicium uero miseriae tacere non potuit, confitens eorum mentem, qua rationales esse perhibuit, non saltem inbutam munitamque uirtute passionibus animi inrationabilibus nequaquam cedere, sed ipsam quoque, sicut stultarum mentium mos est, procellosis quodam modo perturbationibus agitari. Verba namque eius de hac re ista sunt: Ex hoc ferme daemonum numero, inquit, poetae solent haudquaquam procul a ueritate osores et amatores quorundam hominum deos fingere; hos prosperare et euehere, illos contra aduersari et adfligere; igitur et misereri et indignari, et angi et laetari omnemque humani animi faciem pati, simili motu cordis et salo mentis per omnes cogitationum aestus fluctuare. Quae omnes turbelae tempestatesque procul a deorum caelestium tranquillitate exulant. Num est in his uerbis ulla dubitatio, quod non animorum aliquas inferiores partes, sed ipsas daemonum mentes, quibus rationalia sunt animalia, uelut procellosum salum dixit passionum tempestate turbari? ut ne hominibus quidem sapientibus conparandi sint, qui huius modi perturbationibus animorum, a quibus humana non est inmunis infirmitas, etiam cum eas huius uitae condicione patiuntur, mente inperturbata, resistunt, non eis cedentes ad aliquid adprobandum uel perpetrandum, quod exorbitet ab itinere sapientiae et lege iustitiae; sed stultis mortalibus et iniustis non corporibus, sed moribus similes (ut non dicam deteriores, eo quo uetustiores et debita poena insanabiles) ipsius quoque mentis, ut iste appellauit, salo fluctuant, nec in ueritate adque uirtute, qua turbulentis et prauis affectionibus repugnatur, ex ulla animi parte consistunt.

Chapter 3. What Apuleius ascribes to the demons, to whom, though he does not deny reason, he assigns no virtue.

What, then, is the difference between good and bad demons? For the Platonist Apuleius, discussing them in general and saying so much about their aerial bodies, kept silent about the virtues of mind with which they would be endowed if they were good. So he kept silent about the cause of happiness, but could not keep silent about the sign of wretchedness. He confessed that their mind, by which he said they are rational, is not even imbued and fortified with virtue so as never to yield to irrational passions of the soul, but that it too, as is the way with foolish minds, is tossed in a way by stormy perturbations. For these are his words on the matter: “From this class of demons, for the most part,” he says, “the poets, not at all far from the truth, are accustomed to invent gods who hate and love certain men — prospering and exalting these, opposing and afflicting those; and so they feel pity and indignation, anguish and joy, and suffer every aspect of the human mind, tossing with a like movement of heart and surge of mind through all the tides of thought. All these turmoils and storms are exiled far from the tranquillity of the heavenly gods.” Is there any doubt in these words that he said not some lower parts of their souls, but the very minds of the demons, by which they are rational animals, are disturbed like a stormy sea by a tempest of passions? So they are not to be compared even with wise men, who resist perturbations of the soul of this kind — from which human weakness is not immune — with an undisturbed mind, even when they suffer them through the condition of this life, not yielding to them so as to approve or do anything that strays from the path of wisdom and the law of justice. Rather, like foolish and unjust mortals, not in body but in morals (not to say worse, inasmuch as they are older and incurable by due punishment), they are tossed on the surge, as he called it, of their very mind, and in no part of their soul do they stand firm in the truth and virtue by which turbulent and depraved affections are resisted.

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Summary: Augustine quotes Apuleius to show that the demons' very minds are storm-tossed by passions, so that they are worse than wise men.

  • Quotes Apuleius, On the God of Socrates 12 (no entry for Apuleius in the site's list of extrabiblical texts).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray period for comma): conparandi sint. qui → conparandi sint, qui.

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9.4CSEL 40:410–414

CAPUT IIII. De perturbationibus, quae animo accidunt, quae sit Peripateticorum Stoicorumque sententia. Duae sunt sententiae philosophorum de his animi motibus, quae Graeci πάθη, nostri autem quidam, sicut Cicero, perturbationes, quidam affectiones uel affectus, quidam uero, sicut iste de Graeco expressius, passiones uocant. Has ergo perturbationes siue affectiones siue passiones quidam philosophi dicunt etiam in sapientem cadere, sed moderatas rationique subiectas, ut eis leges quodam modo, quibus ad necessarium redigantur modum, dominatio mentis inponat. Hoc qui sentiunt, Platonici sunt siue Aristotelici, cum Aristoteles discipulus Platonis fuerit, qui sectam Peripateticam condidit. Aliis autem, sicut Stoicis, cadere ullas omnino huiusce modi passiones in sapientem non placet. Hos autem, id est Stoicos, Cicero in libris de finibus bonorum et malorum uerbis magis quam rebus aduersus Platonicos seu Peripateticos certare conuincit; quando quidem Stoici nolunt bona appellare, sed commoda corporis et externa, eo quod nullum bonum uolunt esse hominis praeter uirtutem, tamquam artem bene uiuendi, quae non nisi in animo est. Haec autem isti simpliciter et ex communi loquendi consuetudine appellant bona; sed in conparatione uirtutis, qua recte uiuitur, parua et exigua. Ex quo fit, ut ab utrisque quodlibet uocentur, seu bona seu commoda, pari tamen aestimatione pensentur, nec in hac quaestione Stoici delectentur nisi nouitate uerborum. Videtur ergo mihi etiam in hoc, ubi quaeritur utrum accidant sapienti passiones animi, an ab eis sit prorsus alienus, de uerbis eos potius quam de rebus facere controuersiam. Nam et ipsos nihil hinc aliud quam Platonicos et Peripateticos sentire existimo, quantum ad uim rerum adtinet, non ad uocabulorum sonum. Ut enim alia omittam, quibus id ostendam, ne longum faciam, aliquid unum quod sit euidentissimum dicam. In libris, quibus titulus est Noctium Atticarum, scribit A. Gellius, uir elegantissimi eloquii et multae undecumque scientiae, se nauigasse aliquando cum quodam philosopho nobili Stoico. Is philosophus, sicut latius et uberius, quod ego breuiter adtingam, narrat A. Gellius, cum illud nauigium horribili caelo et mari periculosissime iactaretur, ui timoris expalluit. Id animaduersum est ab eis, qui aderant, quamuis in mortis uicinia curiosissime adtentis, utrumne philosophus animo turbaretur. Deinde tempestate transacta mox ut securitas praebuit conloquendi uel etiam garriendi locum, quidam ex his, quos nauis illa portabat, diues luxuriosus Asiaticus philosophum conpellat inludens, quod extimuisset adque palluisset, cum ipse mansisset intrepidus in eo quod inpendebat exitio. At ille Aristippi Socratici responsum rettulit, qui cum in re simili eadem uerba ab homine simili audisset, respondit illum pro anima nequissimi nebulonis merito non fuisse sollicitum, se autem pro Aristippi anima timere debuisse. Hac illo diuite responsione depulso postea quaesiuit A. Gellius a philosopho non exagitandi animo, sed discendi, quaenam illa ratio esset pauoris sui. Qui ut doceret hominem sciendi studio nauiter accensum, protulit statim de sarcinula sua Stoici Epicteti librum, in quo ea scripta essent, quae congruerent decretis Zenonis et Chrysippi, quos fuisse Stoicorum principes nouimus. In eo libro se legisse dicit A. Gellius hoc Stoicis placuisse, quod animi uisa, quas appellant phantasias, nec in potestate est utrum et quando incidant animo, cum ueniunt ex terribilibus et formidabilibus rebus, necesse est etiam sapientis animum moueant, ita ut paulisper uel pauescat metu, uel tristitia contrahatur, tamquam his passionibus praeuenientibus mentis et rationis officium; nec ideo tamen in mente fieri opinionem mali, nec adprobari ista eisque consentiri. Hoc enim esse uolunt in potestate idque interesse censent inter animum sapientis et stulti, quod stulti animus eisdem passionibus cedit adque adcommodat mentis adsensum; sapientes autem, quamuis eas necessitate patiantur, retinent tamen de his, quae adpetere uel fugere rationabiliter debent, ueram et stabilem inconcussa mente sententiam. Haec ut potui non quidem commodius A. Gellio, sed certe breuius et, ut puto, planius exposui, quae ille se in Epicteti libro legisse commemorat eum ex decretis Stoicorum dixisse adque sensisse. Quae si ita sunt, aut nihil aut paene nihil distat inter Stoicorum aliorumque philosophorum opinionem de passionibus et perturbationibus animorum; utrique enim mentem rationemque sapientis ab earum dominatione defendunt. Et ideo fortasse dicunt eas in sapientem non cadere Stoici, quia nequaquam eius sapientiam, qua utique sapiens est, ullo errore obnubilant aut labe subuertunt. Accidunt autem animo sapientis salua serenitate sapientiae propter illa, quae commoda uel incommoda appellant, quamuis ea nolint dicere bona uel mala. Nam profecto si nihili penderet eas res ille philosophus, quas amissurum se naufragio sentiebat, sicuti est uita ista salusque corporis, non ita illud periculum perhorresceret, ut palloris etiam testimonio proderetur. Verum tamen et illam poterat permotionem pati, et fixam tenere mente sententiam, uitam illam salutemque corporis, quorum amissionem minabatur tempestatis inmanitas, non esse bona, quae illos quibus inessent facerent bonos, sicut facit iustitia. Quod autem aiunt ea nec bona appellanda esse, sed commoda: uerborum certamini, non rerum examini deputandum est. Quid enim interest, utrum aptius bona uocentur an commoda, dum tamen ne his priuetur non minus Stoicus quam Peripateticus pauescat et palleat, ea non aequaliter appellando, sed aequaliter aestimando? Ambo sane, si bonorum istorum seu commodorum periculis ad flagitium uel facinus urgeantur, ut aliter ea retinere non possint, malle se dicunt haec amittere, quibus natura corporis salua et incolumis habetur, quam illa committere, quibus iustitia uiolatur. Ita mens, ubi fixa est ista sententia, nullas perturbationes, etiamsi accidunt inferioribus animi partibus, in se contra rationem praeualere permittit; quin immo eis ipsa dominatur eisque non consentiendo et potius resistendo regnum uirtutis exercet. Talem describit etiam Vergilius Aenean, ubi ait: Mens inmota manet, lacrimae uoluuntur inanes.

Chapter 4. What is the opinion of the Peripatetics and the Stoics about the perturbations that befall the soul.

There are two opinions of the philosophers about these movements of the soul which the Greeks call pathē, and some of our writers, like Cicero, call perturbations, some affections or feelings, and some, like this man, more exactly from the Greek, passions. Some philosophers say that these perturbations, or affections, or passions befall even the wise man, but moderated and subject to reason, so that the mastery of the mind imposes laws on them, as it were, by which they are brought to a necessary measure. Those who hold this are the Platonists or Aristotelians, since Aristotle, who founded the Peripatetic school, was a disciple of Plato. Others, like the Stoics, do not accept that any passions of this kind at all befall the wise man. But Cicero, in his books On the Ends of Good and Evil, proves that these, the Stoics, contend with the Platonists or Peripatetics in words rather than in reality. For the Stoics refuse to call bodily and external advantages goods, but call them “advantages,” because they hold that there is no good for man except virtue, as the art of living well, which exists only in the mind. The others call these things goods simply and according to the common usage of speech, but small and slight in comparison with the virtue by which one lives rightly. Hence, whatever they are called by either side, goods or advantages, they are weighed with equal valuation, and in this question the Stoics delight in nothing but the novelty of words. It seems to me, then, that in this point too, where it is asked whether passions of the soul befall the wise man or whether he is wholly free of them, they are arguing about words rather than things. For I think that they themselves hold nothing different from the Platonists and Peripatetics here, as far as concerns the force of the things, not the sound of the words. To pass over other things by which I might show this, so as not to be long, I shall mention one very clear instance. In the books entitled Attic Nights, Aulus Gellius, a man of most elegant style and wide learning on every subject, writes that he once sailed with a certain noted Stoic philosopher. This philosopher — as Aulus Gellius tells more fully and richly what I shall touch on briefly — when the ship was being most dangerously tossed by a terrible sky and sea, turned pale from the force of fear. This was noticed by those who were present, who, though in the neighborhood of death, were most curiously attentive to whether the philosopher was disturbed in mind. Then, when the storm had passed and safety soon gave room for conversation or even chatter, one of those whom the ship was carrying, a rich and luxurious Asiatic, accosted the philosopher mockingly, because he had been afraid and turned pale while he himself had remained undaunted in the destruction that threatened. But the philosopher repeated the answer of Aristippus the Socratic, who, when he had heard the same words from a similar man in a similar situation, replied that the other had rightly not been anxious for the soul of a most worthless scoundrel, but that he himself had had to fear for the soul of Aristippus. When the rich man had been repulsed by this answer, Aulus Gellius afterwards asked the philosopher, not in order to provoke him but in order to learn, what was the reason for his fear. To teach a man so eagerly fired with the desire of knowing, he at once brought out of his little bag a book of the Stoic Epictetus, in which were written things agreeing with the doctrines of Zeno and Chrysippus, who we know were the leaders of the Stoics. In that book Aulus Gellius says he read that the Stoics held this: that the appearances to the mind which they call phantasiai — it is not in our power whether and when they fall upon the mind — when they come from terrible and frightening things, must necessarily move even the mind of the wise man, so that for a little while he either trembles with fear or is contracted by sadness, as though these passions forestalled the office of mind and reason; yet not on that account is an opinion of evil formed in the mind, nor are these things approved or consented to. For this, they hold, is in our power, and they judge that this is the difference between the mind of the wise man and that of the fool: the fool's mind yields to these same passions and adapts the assent of the mind to them; but the wise, though they suffer them by necessity, retain with unshaken mind a true and stable judgment about what they ought rationally to seek or avoid. I have set this out as well as I could — not more elegantly than Aulus Gellius, but certainly more briefly and, I think, more plainly — what he records he read in the book of Epictetus, as said and held by him according to the doctrines of the Stoics. If these things are so, there is no difference, or almost none, between the opinion of the Stoics and that of the other philosophers about the passions and perturbations of souls; for both defend the mind and reason of the wise man from their domination. And perhaps the Stoics say that they do not befall the wise man because they by no means cloud with any error or overturn with any stain his wisdom, by which he is wise. But they befall the mind of the wise man, the serenity of wisdom remaining intact, on account of those things which they call advantages or disadvantages, though they will not call them goods or evils. For surely, if that philosopher had valued as nothing those things which he felt he was about to lose in the shipwreck, such as this life and the safety of the body, he would not have so dreaded that danger as to betray it even by the testimony of his pallor. Yet he could both suffer that disturbance and hold fixed in his mind the judgment that life and bodily safety, the loss of which the savagery of the storm threatened, were not goods that make good those in whom they are, as justice does. But as to their saying that these things should not even be called goods but advantages, this must be put down to a contest over words, not an examination of things. For what difference does it make whether they are more aptly called goods or advantages, provided that the Stoic no less than the Peripatetic trembles and turns pale lest he be deprived of them — naming them unequally, but valuing them equally? Both, certainly, if they were pressed by dangers to these goods or advantages to commit an outrage or crime, so that they could not otherwise keep them, say that they would rather lose these things, by which the nature of the body is kept safe and sound, than commit those things by which justice is violated. So the mind in which this judgment is fixed allows no perturbations, even if they befall the lower parts of the soul, to prevail in it against reason; rather, it rules them itself, and by not consenting to them, and even resisting them, exercises the reign of virtue. Such is Aeneas as Virgil describes him, where he says: “His mind remains unmoved; the tears roll down in vain.”

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Summary: Augustine argues that Stoics and Platonists differ in words rather than substance about the passions, citing Aulus Gellius' story of the Stoic who turned pale in a storm at sea.

  • Retells Aulus Gellius, Attic Nights 19.1, including the saying of Aristippus and the Stoic doctrine of first impressions from Epictetus (fr. 9); refers to Cicero, On Ends books 3–4; quotes Virgil, Aeneid 4.449. The Greek word, garbled and marked sic in the digital text, is πάθη (“passions”).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR of the Greek word πάθη (marked sic in the digital text)): rcdib] → πάθη.

Extrabiblical texts: Aulus Gellius, Noct. att. 19.1 (Aulus Gellius, Attic Nights; allusion); Cicero, Fin. 3–4 (Cicero; allusion); Aristippus (Aristippus (fragments); allusion); Zeno of Citium, Zeno (Zeno of Citium; allusion); Chrysippus (Chrysippus; allusion); Virgil, Aen. 4.449 (Virgil; quotation)

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Civ. 9.4 (CSEL 40:410–414; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-civitate-dei/8-26/#p-9-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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9.5CSEL 40:414–416

CAPUT V. Quod passiones, quae Christianos animos adficiunt, non in uitium trahant, sed uirtutem exerceant. Non est nunc necesse copiose ac diligenter ostendere, quid de istis passionibus doceat scriptura diuina, qua Christiana eruditio continetur. Deo quippe [illam] ipsam mentem subicit regendam et iuuandam mentique passiones ita moderandas adque frenandas, ut in usum iustitiae conuertantur. Denique in disciplina nostra non tam quaeritur utrum pius animus irascatur, sed quare irascatur; nec utrum sit tristis, sed unde sit tristis; nec utrum timeat, sed quid timeat. Irasci enim peccanti ut corrigatur, contristari pro adflicto ut liberetur, timere periclitanti ne pereat, nescio utrum quisquam sana consideratione reprehendat. Nam et misericordiam Stoicorum est solere culpare; sed quanto honestius ille Stoicus misericordia perturbaretur hominis liberandi quam timore naufragii. Longe melius et humanius et piorum sensibus adcommodatius Cicero in Caesaris laude locutus est, ubi ait: Nulla de uirtutibus tuis nec admirabilior nec gratior misericordia est. Quid est autem misericordia nisi alienae miseriae quaedam in nostro corde conpassio, qua utique si possumus subuenire conpellimur? Seruit autem motus iste rationi, quando ita praebetur misericordia, ut iustitia conseruetur, siue cum indigenti tribuitur, siue cum ignoscitur paenitenti. Hanc Cicero locutor egregius non dubitauit appellare uirtutem, quam Stoicos inter uitia numerare non pudet, qui tamen, ut docuit liber Epicteti, nobilissimi Stoici, ex decretis Zenonis et Chrysippi, qui huius sectae primas habuerunt, huiusce modi passiones in animum sapientis admittunt, quem uitiis omnibus liberum uolunt. Unde fit consequens, ut haec ipsa non putent uitia, quando sapienti sic accidunt, ut contra uirtutem mentis rationemque nihil possint, et una sit eademque sententia Peripateticorum uel etiam Platonicorum et ipsorum Stoicorum, sed, ut ait Tullius, uerbi controuersia iam diu torqueat homines Graeculos contentionis cupidiores quam ueritatis. Sed adhuc merito quaeri potest, utrum ad uitae praesentis pertineat infirmitatem etiam in quibusque bonis officiis huiusce modi perpeti affectus, sancti uero angeli et sine ira puniant, quos accipiunt aeterna Dei lege puniendos, et miseris sine miseriae conpassione subueniant, et periclitantibus eis, quos diligunt, sine timore opitulentur; et tamen istarum nomina passionum consuetudine locutionis humanae etiam in eos usurpentur propter quandam operum similitudinem, non propter affectionum infirmitatem, sicut ipse Deus secundum scripturas irascitur, nec tamen ulla passione turbatur. Hoc enim uerbum uindictae usurpauit effectus, non illius turbulentus affectus.

Chapter 5. That the passions that affect Christian souls do not draw them into vice but exercise virtue.

There is no need now to show fully and carefully what the divine Scripture, in which Christian learning is contained, teaches about these passions. For it subjects the mind itself to God, to be ruled and helped by him, and the passions to the mind, to be so moderated and bridled that they are turned to the service of justice. In short, in our discipline the question is not so much whether a devout soul is angry, but why it is angry; not whether it is sad, but from what cause it is sad; not whether it fears, but what it fears. For to be angry with a sinner so that he may be corrected, to be saddened for the afflicted so that he may be freed, to fear for one in danger lest he perish — I do not know whether anyone on sound consideration would blame these. For it is the Stoics' habit to find fault even with compassion; but how much more honorably would that Stoic have been disturbed by compassion for a man to be rescued than by fear of shipwreck! Far better, more humanely, and more suitably to the feelings of the devout did Cicero speak in praise of Caesar, where he says: “Of your virtues none is more admirable or more pleasing than your mercy.” And what is mercy but a kind of fellow-suffering in our heart with the misery of another, by which we are certainly compelled to help, if we can? This movement serves reason when mercy is shown in such a way that justice is preserved, whether when it is given to the needy or when pardon is granted to the penitent. Cicero, that excellent speaker, did not hesitate to call this a virtue, which the Stoics are not ashamed to count among the vices — the Stoics who nevertheless, as the book of Epictetus, a most noted Stoic, taught from the doctrines of Zeno and Chrysippus, the leaders of this school, admit passions of this kind into the mind of the wise man, whom they want to be free from all vices. It follows, then, that they do not think these things vices when they befall the wise man in such a way that they can do nothing against the virtue of the mind and reason; and that the opinion of the Peripatetics, or even the Platonists, and of the Stoics themselves is one and the same, but, as Tully says, a controversy about a word has long tormented these little Greeks, more eager for contention than for truth. But it may still rightly be asked whether it belongs to the weakness of the present life to suffer affections of this kind even in all good duties, while the holy angels both punish without anger those whom they receive to be punished by the eternal law of God, and help the wretched without fellow-suffering in their misery, and assist without fear those whom they love when they are in danger; and yet the names of these passions are applied to them too by the custom of human speech, because of a certain likeness of works, not because of weakness of affections. So God himself, according to the Scriptures, is angry, and yet is not disturbed by any passion. For this word has been taken from the effect of his punishment, not from any turbulent affection of his.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

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Summary: Augustine teaches that Christian discipline asks not whether one feels anger, sadness, or fear but why, praises mercy as a virtue against the Stoics, and explains that God's 'anger' describes his punishment, not a passion.

  • Quotes Cicero, For Ligarius 12.37; “little Greeks … more eager for contention than for truth” is from Cicero, On the Orator 1.11.47. The editor deletes “illam” before “ipsam mentem”. On God's anger without passion, compare Book 15.25.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray period for comma): usurpauit effectus. non illius → usurpauit effectus, non illius.

Extrabiblical texts: Cicero, Lig. 12.37 (Cicero; quotation); Cicero, De or. 1.11.47 (Cicero; quotation)

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Civ. 9.5 (CSEL 40:414–416; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-civitate-dei/8-26/#p-9-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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9.6CSEL 40:416–417

CAPUT VI. Quibus passionibus daemones confitente Apuleio exagitentur, quorum ope homines aput deos adserit adiuuari. Qua interim de sanctis angelis quaestione dilata uideamus quem ad modum dicant Platonici medios daemones inter deos et homines constitutos istis passionum aestibus fluctuare. Si enim mente ab his libera eisque dominante motus huiusce modi paterentur, non eos diceret Apuleius simili motu cordis et salo mentis per omnes cogitationum aestus fluctuare. Ipsa igitur mens eorum, id est pars animi superior, qua rationales sunt, in qua uirtus et sapientia, si ulla eis esset, passionibus turbulentis inferiorum animi partium regendis moderandisque dominaretur, — ipsa, inquam, mens eorum, sicut iste Platonicus confitetur, salo perturbationum fluctuat. Subiecta est ergo mens daemonum passionibus libidinum formidinum irarum adque huiusce modi ceteris. Quae igitur pars in eis libera est composque sapientiae, qua placeant dis et ad bonorum morum similitudinem hominibus consulant, cum eorum mens passionum uitiis subiugata et obpressa, quidquid rationis naturaliter habet, ad fallendum et decipiendum tanto acrius intendat, quanto eam magis possidet nocendi cupiditas?

Chapter 6. By what passions, on Apuleius's own admission, the demons are agitated — the demons by whose help he asserts men are aided with the gods.

Putting off for the moment this question about the holy angels, let us see how the Platonists say that the demons, placed midway between gods and men, are tossed on these tides of passions. For if they suffered movements of this kind with their mind free from them and ruling them, Apuleius would not say that they toss “with a like movement of heart and surge of mind through all the tides of thought.” Their very mind, then — that is, the higher part of the soul, by which they are rational, in which virtue and wisdom, if they had any, would rule, governing and moderating the turbulent passions of the lower parts of the soul — their very mind, I say, as this Platonist confesses, is tossed on a surge of perturbations. The mind of the demons, therefore, is subject to the passions of lusts, fears, angers, and the rest of this kind. What part of them, then, is free and in possession of wisdom, by which they might please the gods and counsel men toward the likeness of good morals, when their mind, subjugated and oppressed by the vices of the passions, bends whatever reason it naturally has to cheating and deceiving the more keenly, the more the desire of harming possesses it?

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Summary: Augustine argues that since the demons' very minds are ruled by passions, they have no free and wise part by which to help men toward the gods.

  • Quotes again Apuleius, On the God of Socrates 12.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Civ. 9.6 (CSEL 40:416–417; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-civitate-dei/8-26/#p-9-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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9.7CSEL 40:417–419

CAPUT VII. Quod Platonici figmentis poetarum infamatos adserant deos de contrariorum studiorum certamine, cum hae partes daemonum, non deorum sint. Quod si quisquam dicit, non ex omnium, sed ex malorum daemonum numero esse, quos poetae quorundam hominum osores et amatores deos non procul a ueritate confingunt (hos enim dixit Apuleius salo mentis per omnes cogitationum aestus fluctuare): quo modo istud intellegere poterimus, quando, cum hoc diceret, non quorundam, id est malorum, sed omnium daemonum medietatem propter aeria corpora inter deos et homines describebat? Hoc enim ait fingere poetas, quod ex istorum daemonum numero deos faciunt et eis deorum nomina inponunt et quibus uoluerint hominibus ex his amicos inimicosque distribuunt ficti carminis inpunita licentia, cum deos ab his daemonum moribus et caelesti loco et beatitudinis opulentia remotos esse perhibeat. Haec est ergo fictio poetarum deos dicere, qui di non sunt, eosque sub deorum nominibus inter se decertare propter homines, quos pro studio partium diligunt uel oderunt. Non procul autem a ueritate dicit hanc esse fictionem, quoniam deorum appellati uocabulis, qui di non sunt, tales tamen describuntur daemones, quales sunt. Denique hinc esse dicit Homericam illam Mineruam, (quae mediis coetibus Graium cohibendo Achilli interuenit. Quod ergo Minerua illa fuerit, poeticum uult esse figmentum, eo quod Mineruam deam putat eamque inter deos, quos omnes bonos beatosque credit, in alta aetheria sede conlocat, procul a conuersatione mortalium; quod autem aliquis daemon fuerit Graecis fauens Troianisque contrarius, sicut alius aduersus Graecos Troianorum opitulator, quem Veneris seu Martis nomine idem poeta commemorat, quos deos iste talia non agentes in habitationibus caelestibus ponit, et hi daemones pro eis, quos amabant, contra eos, quos oderant, inter se decertauerint, hoc non procul a ueritate poetas dixisse confessus est. De his quippe ista dixerunt, quos hominibus simili motu cordis et salo mentis per omnes cogitationum aestus fluctuare testatur, ut possint amores et odia non pro iustitia, sed sicut populus similis eorum in uenatoribus et aurigis secundum suarum studia partium pro aliis aduersus alios exercere. Id enim uidetur philosophus curasse Platonicus, ne, cum haec a poetis canerentur, non a daemonibus mediis, sed ab ipsis dis, quorum nomina poetae fingendo ponunt, fieri crederentur.

Chapter 7. That the Platonists assert that the gods are defamed by the fictions of the poets concerning the conflict of opposing partisanships, when these roles belong to demons, not gods.

But if anyone says that it is not from the number of all demons, but of the bad ones, that the poets, not far from the truth, invent gods who hate and love certain men (for it was these, Apuleius said, that toss with a surge of mind through all the tides of thought) — how can we understand this, when, in saying it, he was describing the middle position of all demons, not just of some, that is, the bad ones, between gods and men, on account of their aerial bodies? For this, he says, is the poets' invention: that out of the number of these demons they make gods, give them the names of gods, and distribute them as friends and enemies to whatever men they please, with the unpunished licence of fictitious verse — while he declares that the gods are far removed from these ways of the demons, both by their heavenly place and by the wealth of their happiness. This, then, is the fiction of the poets: to call gods those who are not gods, and to make them contend among themselves under the names of gods on account of men, whom they love or hate out of partisanship. And he says that this fiction is not far from the truth, because, though called by the names of gods, which they are not, the demons are nevertheless described as they are. Finally, he says that from this comes Homer's Minerva, “who intervened in the midst of the Greek assembly to restrain Achilles.” That it was Minerva, he wants to be a poetic fiction, because he thinks Minerva a goddess and places her among the gods, all of whom he believes good and happy, in the high ethereal seat, far from the company of mortals. But that some demon favored the Greeks and opposed the Trojans, as another helped the Trojans against the Greeks, whom the same poet mentions under the name of Venus or Mars — gods whom Apuleius places in the heavenly dwellings, not doing such things — and that these demons contended among themselves for those they loved against those they hated: this he confessed the poets said not far from the truth. For they said these things of those whom he testifies toss, like men, with a like movement of heart and surge of mind through all the tides of thought, so that they can exercise loves and hatreds not according to justice, but, like the people who resemble them in their partisanship for hunters and charioteers, for some against others according to the zeal of their factions. For the Platonic philosopher seems to have taken care that, when these things were sung by the poets, they should not be believed to be done by the gods themselves, whose names the poets set on them in their fictions, rather than by the middle demons.

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Summary: Augustine shows that Apuleius makes the partisan 'gods' of Homer into demons, since he holds the true gods far from such passions.

  • Draws on Apuleius, On the God of Socrates 11–12; the Homeric scene is Iliad 1.193–222, where Athena restrains Achilles.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray period for comma; word split in the digital text): os ores → osores; poeticum uult esse figmentum. eo quod → poeticum uult esse figmentum, eo quod.

Extrabiblical texts: Homer, Il. 1.193–222 (Homer, Iliad; allusion)

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Civ. 9.7 (CSEL 40:417–419; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-civitate-dei/8-26/#p-9-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Hoffmann's Latin text (CSEL 40, 1899–1900); compared afterwards with the NPNF¹ 2 translation (Dods, 1887).