Confessions 12.23–12.41
Latin text: Knoll, CSEL 33 (Latin text: Pius Knoll, Confessionum Libri XIII (CSEL 33, 1896), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 1 (1886).
Chapter 12
12.23CSEL 33:324–325
Cum his enim uolo coram te aliquid conloqui, deus meus, qui haec omnia, quae intus in mente mea non tacet ueritas tua, uera esse concedunt. nam qui haec negant, latrent quantum uolunt et obstrepant sibi: persuadere conabor, ut quiescant et uiam praebeant ad se uerbo tuo. quod si noluerint et reppulerint me, obsecro, deus meus, ne tu sileas a me. tu loquere in corde meo ueraciter; solus enim sic loqueris; et dimittam eos foris sufflantes in puluerem et excitantes terram in oculos suos et intrem in cubile meum et cantem tibi amatoria gemens inenarrabiles gemitus in peregrinatione mea et recordans Hierusalem extento in eam sursum corde, Hierusalem patriam meam, Hierusalem matrem meam, teque super eam regnatorem, inlustratorem, patrem, tutorem, maritum, castas et fortes delicias et solidum gaudium et omnia bona ineffabilia, simul omnia, quia unum summum et uerum bonum: et non auertar, donec in eius pacem, matris carissimae, ubi sunt primitiae spiritus mei, unde ista mihi certa sunt, colligas totum quod sum a dispersione et deformitate hac. et conformes atque confirmes in aeternum, deus meus, misericordia mea. cum his autem, qui cuncta illa, quae uera sunt, falsa esse non dicunt honorantes et in culmine sequendae auctoritatis nobiscum constituentes illam per sanctum Moysen editam sanctam scripturam tuam, et tamen nobis aliquid contradicunt, ita loquor. tu esto, deus noster, arbiter inter confessiones meas et contradictiones eorum.
For with these, my God, I want to speak for a little in your presence, those who grant that all these things are true which your Truth does not keep silent within my mind. As for those who deny them, let them bark as much as they like and deafen themselves; I will try to persuade them to be quiet and let your word find a way to them. But if they will not, and reject me, I beseech you, my God, "do not be silent to me." Speak truly in my heart, for you alone speak so; and I will leave them outside, blowing into the dust and raising earth into their own eyes; and I will enter my chamber and sing love songs to you, groaning with inexpressible groanings in my pilgrimage, and remembering Jerusalem, with my heart stretched up toward it: Jerusalem my homeland, Jerusalem my mother, and you who reign over it, its enlightener, father, guardian, husband, its chaste and strong delights and solid joy and all good things beyond telling, all at once, because you are the one supreme and true good. And I will not turn away until you gather all that I am from this dispersion and deformity into the peace of that dearest mother, where the first fruits of my spirit are, from which these things are certain to me; and you conform and confirm me for ever, my God, my mercy. But to those who do not say that all these true things are false, who honor your holy Scripture, published through holy Moses, and set it with us at the summit of authority to be followed, and yet contradict us in something, I speak thus. Be judge, our God, between my confessions and their contradictions.
Ps 28:1 (27:1 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 6:6 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 8:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 4:26 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 8:23 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Leaving deniers aside, Augustine longs for the heavenly Jerusalem and turns to those who accept Scripture but differ in interpretation.
- Quotations and allusions: Ps 28:1; Matt 6:6; Rom 8:26; Gal 4:26; Rom 8:23.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.23 (CSEL 33:324–325; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-23). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.24CSEL 33:325–326
Dicunt enim: "quamuis uera sint haec, non ea tamen duo Moyses intuebatur, cum reuelante spiritu diceret: in principio fecit deus caelum et terram. non caeli nomine spiritalem uel intellectualem illam creaturam semper faciem dei contemplantem significauit nec terrae nomine informem materiam." quid igitur? "quod nos dicimus" inquiunt "hoc ille uir sensit, hoc uerbis istis elocutus est". quid illud est? "nomine" aiunt "caeli et terrae totum istum uisibilem mundum prius uniuersaliter et breuiter significare uoluit, ut postea digereret dierum enumeratione quasi articulatim uniuersa, quae sancto spiritui placuit sic enuntiare. tales quippe homines erant rudis ille atque carnalis populus, cui loquebatur, ut eis opera dei non nisi sola uisibilia commendanda iudicaret." terram uero inuisibilem et incompositam tenebrosamque abyssum, unde consequenter ostenditur per illos dies facta atque disposita esse cuncta ista uisibilia, quae nota sunt omnibus, non incongruenter informem istam materiem intellegendam esse consentiunt.
For they say: "Although these things are true, yet Moses was not looking at those two things when, by the revelation of the Spirit, he said, 'In the beginning God made heaven and earth.' By the name of heaven he did not mean that spiritual or intellectual creation always contemplating the face of God, nor by the name of earth formless matter." What, then? "What we say," they say, "is what that man meant; this is what he expressed in those words." What is that? "By the name of heaven and earth," they say, "he wanted first to signify, universally and briefly, this whole visible world, so as afterward to set out, by the enumeration of the days, piece by piece as it were, all the things the Holy Spirit was pleased to express in this way. For the people to whom he spoke were such rough and carnal men that he judged that only the visible works of God should be commended to them." But they agree that the invisible and unformed earth and the dark abyss, from which, as is then shown, all these visible things known to everyone were made and set in order during those days, may not unfittingly be understood as this formless matter.
Gen 1:1 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Some say that "heaven and earth" in Gen 1:1 means the whole visible world, told simply for a rough people.
- Quotation: Gen 1:1.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: n for u; OCR: rn for m): quarnuis → quamuis; significare noluit → significare uoluit.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.24 (CSEL 33:325–326; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-24). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.25CSEL 33:326–327
Quid? si dicat alius eandem informitatem confusionemque materiae caeli et terrae nomine prius insinuatam, quod ex ea mundus iste uisibilis cum omnibus naturis, quae in eo manifestissime apparent, qui caeli et terrae nomine saepe appellari solet, conditus atque perfectus est? quid? si dicat et alius caelum et terram quidem inuisibilem uisibilemque naturam non indecenter appellatam ac per hoc uniuersam creaturam, quam fecit in sapientia, id est in principio, deus, huiuscemodi duobus uocabulis esse conprehensam; uerum tamen quia non de ipsa substantia dei, sed ex nihilo cuncta facta sunt, quia non sunt id ipsum, quod deus, et inest quaedam mutabilitas omnibus, siue maneant, sicut aeterna domus dei, siue mutentur, sicut anima hominis et corpus, communem omnium rerum inuisibilium uisibiliumque materiem adhuc informem, sed certe formabilem, unde fieret caelum et terra, id est inuisibilis atque uisibilis iam utraque formata creatura, his nominibus enuntiatam, quibus appellaretur terra inuisibilis et inconposita et tenebrae super abyssum, ea distinctione, ut terra inuisibilis et inconposita intellegatur materies corporalis ante qualitatem formae, tenebrae autem super abyssum spiritalis materies ante cohibitionem quasi fluentis inmoderationis et ante inluminationem sapientiae?
What if another says that this same formlessness and confusion of matter was first suggested by the name of heaven and earth, because from it this visible world, with all the natures that appear most plainly in it, which is often called by the name of heaven and earth, was established and completed? What if yet another says that invisible and visible nature is not unfittingly called heaven and earth, and so the whole creation, which God made in Wisdom, that is, in the Beginning, is comprised in these two words; but since all things were made not from God's own substance but from nothing, because they are not the Selfsame that God is, and there is a certain changeableness in all of them, whether they remain, like the eternal house of God, or change, like the soul and body of man, then the common matter of all things invisible and visible, still formless but certainly capable of form, from which heaven and earth would be made, that is, both creations, invisible and visible, once formed, is expressed by the words by which it is called "invisible and unformed earth" and "darkness over the abyss"; with this distinction, that the invisible and unformed earth is understood as bodily matter before the quality of form, and darkness over the abyss as spiritual matter before the restraining of its flowing, as it were, unboundedness, and before the enlightening of Wisdom?
Gen 1:2 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Others read "heaven and earth" as formless matter, or as the whole creation, with "earth" and "abyss" as bodily and spiritual matter.
- Quotation: Gen 1:2.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.25 (CSEL 33:326–327; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-25). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.26CSEL 33:327
Est adhuc quod dicat, si quis alius uelit, non scilicet iam perfectas atque formatas inuisibiles uisibilesque naturas caeli et terrae nomine significari, cum legitur: in principio fecit deus caelum et terram, sed ipsam adhuc informem inchoationem rerum formabilem creabilemque materiam his nominibus appellatam, quod in ea iam essent ista confusa, nondum qualitatibus formisque distincta, quae nunc iam digesta suis ordinibus uocantur caelum et terra, illa spiritalis, haec corporalis creatura.
There is yet another thing someone else may say, if he wishes: that when we read, "In the beginning God made heaven and earth," what is signified by the name of heaven and earth is not invisible and visible natures already completed and formed, but the still formless beginning of things, matter capable of being formed and created, is called by these names, because in it those things were already present in confusion, not yet distinguished by qualities and forms, which now, arranged in their orders, are called heaven and earth, the one spiritual, the other bodily creation.
Gen 1:1 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Another reading takes "heaven and earth" as the still formless matter in which both creations were present confusedly.
- Quotation: Gen 1:1.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.26 (CSEL 33:327; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-26). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.27CSEL 33:327–328
Quibus omnibus auditis et consideratis nolo uerbis contendere; ad nihil enim utile est nisi ad subuersionem audientium. ad aedificationem autem bona est lex, si quis ea legitime utatur, quia finis eius est caritas de corde puro et conscientia bona et fide non ficta; et nouit magister noster, in quibus duobus praeceptis totam legem prophetasque suspenderit. quae mihi ardenter confitenti, deus meus, lumen oculorum meorum in occulto, quid mihi obest, cum diuersa in his uerbis intellegi possint, quae tamen uera sint? quid, inquam, mihi obest, si aliud ego sensero quam sensit alius eum sensisse, qui scripsit? omnes quidem, qui legimus, nitimur hoc indagare atque conprehendere, quod uoluit ille quem legimus, et cum eum ueridicum credimus, nihil, quod falsum esse uel nouimus uel putamus, audemus eum existimare dixisse. dum ergo quisque conatur id sentire in scripturis sanctis, quod in eis sensit ille qui scripsit, quid mali est, si hoc sentiat, quod tu, lux omnium ueridicarum mentium, ostendis uerum esse, etiamsi non hoc sensit ille, quem legit, cum et ille uerum nec tamen hoc senserit?
Having heard and considered all these views, I do not want to "contend about words; for that is useful for nothing but the ruin of the hearers." But "the law is good" for edification "if one uses it lawfully," because "its end is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and faith unfeigned"; and our Teacher knows on which two commandments he hung the whole Law and the Prophets. As I confess these things ardently, my God, light of my eyes in secret, what harm is it to me if different things, which are nevertheless true, can be understood in these words? What harm is it to me, I say, if I think something other than another thinks the writer meant? All of us who read are striving to trace and grasp what the one we read intended; and since we believe him truthful, we do not dare to think that he said anything we know or think to be false. While, then, each one tries to understand in the holy Scriptures what the writer understood in them, what harm is there if he understands what you, the light of all truthful minds, show to be true, even if the one he reads did not understand it, since that writer too understood something true, though not this?
2 Tim 2:14 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 1:8 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 1:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 22:40 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: If a reader finds a true meaning in Scripture that the author did not intend, no harm is done, as long as it is true and serves love.
- Augustine's principle: the reader seeks the author's intention, but any true sense consistent with love is not harmful. Quotations: 2 Tim 2:14; 1 Tim 1:8, 5; allusion Matt 22:40.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.27 (CSEL 33:327–328; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-27). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.28CSEL 33:328–329
Verum est enim, domine, fecisse te caelum et terram. uerum est esse principium sapientiam tuam, in qua fecisti omnia. item uerum est, quod mundus iste uisibilis habet magnas partes suas caelum et terram breui conplexione factarum omnium conditarumque naturarum. et uerum est, quod omne mutabile insinuat notitiae nostrae quandam informitatem, qua formam capit uel qua mutatur et uertitur. uerum est nulla tempora perpeti quod ita cohaeret formae incommutabili, ut, quamuis sit mutabile, non mutetur. uerum est informitatem, quae prope nihil est, uices temporum habere non posse. uerum est, quod, unde fit aliquid, potest quodam genere locutionis habere iam nomen eius rei, quae inde fit: unde potuit uocari caelum et terra quaelibet informitas, unde factum est caelum et terra. uerum est omnium formatorum nihil esse informi uicinius quam terram et abyssum. uerum est, quod non solum creatum atque formatum sed etiam quidquid creabile atque formabile est tu fecisti, ex quo sunt omnia. uerum est omne, quod ex informi formatur, prius esse informe, deinde formatum.
For it is true, Lord, that you made heaven and earth. It is true that the Beginning is your Wisdom, in which you made all things. Likewise it is true that this visible world has as its great parts heaven and earth, a brief summary of all the natures made and established. And it is true that everything changeable suggests to our knowledge a certain formlessness, by which it receives form, or by which it is changed and turned. It is true that what so clings to the unchangeable form that, though changeable, it does not change, undergoes no times. It is true that formlessness, which is almost nothing, cannot have successions of times. It is true that that from which something is made can, by a certain manner of speaking, already have the name of the thing that is made from it; so any formlessness from which heaven and earth were made could be called heaven and earth. It is true that of all formed things nothing is closer to the formless than earth and the abyss. It is true that you made not only what is created and formed, but also whatever can be created and formed, you from whom are all things. It is true that everything that is formed from the formless is first formless and then formed.
Ps 104:24 (103:24 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Augustine lists the truths about creation on which all the interpretations agree.
- Allusion: Ps 104:24.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.28 (CSEL 33:328–329; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-28). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.29CSEL 33:329–330
Ex his omnibus ueris, de quibus non dubitant, quorum interiori oculo talia uidere donasti et qui Moysen, famulum tuum, in spiritu ueritatis locutum esse immobiliter credunt, ex his ergo omnibus aliud sibi tollit qui dicit: in principio fecit deus caelum et terram, id est in uerbo suo sibi coaeterno fecit deus intellegibilem atque sensibilem uel spiritalem corporalemque creaturam; aliud qui dicit: in principio fecit deus caelum et terram, id est in uerbo suo sibi coaeterno fecit deus uniuersam istam molem corporei mundi huius cum omnibus quas continet manifestis notisque naturis; aliud qui dicit: in principio fecit deus caelum et terram, id est in uerbo suo sibi coaeterno fecit informem materiam creaturae spiritalis et corporalis; aliud qui dicit: in principio fecit deus caelum et terram, id est in uerbo suo sibi coaeterno fecit deus informem materiam creaturae corporalis, ubi confusum adhuc erat caelum et terra, quae nunc iam distincta atque formata in istius mundi mole sentimus; aliud qui dicit: in principio fecit deus caelum et terram, id est in ipso exordio faciendi atque operandi fecit deus informem materiam confuse habentem caelum et terram, unde formata nunc eminent et apparent cum omnibus, quae in eis sunt.
From all these truths, which are not doubted by those to whose inner eye you have granted to see such things, and who firmly believe that Moses your servant spoke in the Spirit of truth, from all these, then, one takes one sense who says: "In the beginning God made heaven and earth," that is, in his Word, coeternal with himself, God made the intelligible and the sensible, or spiritual and bodily, creation. Another who says: "In the beginning God made heaven and earth," that is, in his Word, coeternal with himself, God made this whole mass of the bodily world with all the evident and known natures that it contains. Another who says: "In the beginning God made heaven and earth," that is, in his Word, coeternal with himself, God made the formless matter of spiritual and bodily creation. Another who says: "In the beginning God made heaven and earth," that is, in his Word, coeternal with himself, God made the formless matter of bodily creation, in which heaven and earth were still confused, which we now perceive distinguished and formed in the mass of this world. Another who says: "In the beginning God made heaven and earth," that is, in the very first beginning of making and working, God made formless matter containing heaven and earth confusedly, from which, now formed, they stand out and appear with all that is in them.
Gen 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1–3 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Five true interpretations of Gen 1:1 can be drawn from these agreed truths.
- Quotation: Gen 1:1; allusion John 1:1-3.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: n for u): omnibus neris → omnibus ueris.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.29 (CSEL 33:329–330; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-29). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.30CSEL 33:330–331
Item quod adtinet ad intellectum uerborum sequentium, ex illis omnibus ueris aliud sibi tollit, qui dicit: terra autem erat inuisibilis et inconposita, et tenebrae erant super abyssum, id est corporale illud, quod fecit deus, adhuc materies erat corporearum rerum informis, sine ordine, sine luce; aliud qui dicit: terra autem erat inuisibilis et inconposita et tenebrae erant super abyssum, id est hoc totum, quod caelum et terra appellatum est, adhuc informis et tenebrosa materies erat, unde fieret caelum corporeum et terra corporea cum omnibus quae in eis sunt corporeis sensibus nota; aliud qui dicit: terra autem erat inuisibilis et inconposita, et tenebrae erant super abyssum, id est hoc totum, quod caelum et terra appellatum est, adhuc informis et tenebrosa materies erat, unde fieret caelum intellegibile - quod alibi dicitur caelum caeli — et terra, scilicet omnis natura corporea, sub quo nomine intellegatur etiam hoc caelum corporeum, id est unde fieret omnis inuisibilis uisibilisque creatura; aliud qui dicit: terra autem erat inuisibilis et inconposita, et tenebrae erant super abyssum, non illam informitatem nomine caeli et terrae scriptura appellauit, sed iam erat, inquit, ipsa informitas, quam terram inuisibilem et inconpositam tenebrosamque abyssum nominauit, de qua caelum et terram deum fecisse praedixerat, spiritalem scilicet corporalemque creaturam; aliud qui dicit: terra autem erat inuisibilis et inconposita, et tenebrae erant super abyssum, id est informitas quaedam iam materies erat, unde caelum et terram deum fecisse scriptura praedixit, totam scilicet corpoream mundi molem in duas maximas partes superiorem atque inferiorem distributam cum omnibus quae in eis sunt usitatis notisque creaturis.
Likewise, as regards the understanding of the words that follow, from all those truths one takes one sense who says: "But the earth was invisible and unformed, and darkness was over the abyss," that is, that bodily thing which God made was still the formless matter of bodily things, without order, without light. Another who says: "But the earth was invisible and unformed, and darkness was over the abyss," that is, this whole which has been called heaven and earth was still formless and dark matter, from which would be made the bodily heaven and the bodily earth with all that is in them, known to the bodily senses. Another who says: "But the earth was invisible and unformed, and darkness was over the abyss," that is, this whole which has been called heaven and earth was still formless and dark matter, from which would be made the intelligible heaven (which elsewhere is called the heaven of heaven) and the earth, namely all bodily nature, under which name this bodily heaven too is to be understood; that is, from which all invisible and visible creation would be made. Another who says: "But the earth was invisible and unformed, and darkness was over the abyss": Scripture did not call that formlessness by the name of heaven and earth, but, he says, that formlessness already existed which it named the invisible and unformed earth and the dark abyss, from which it had said before that God made heaven and earth, namely the spiritual and bodily creation. Another who says: "But the earth was invisible and unformed, and darkness was over the abyss," that is, there was already a certain formless matter, from which Scripture said before that God made heaven and earth, namely the whole bodily mass of the world, divided into two very great parts, upper and lower, with all the familiar and known creatures that are in them.
Gen 1:2 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Five interpretations of Gen 1:2, "the earth was invisible and unformed."
- Quotation: Gen 1:2.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: n for u): corporalemqne → corporalemque.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.30 (CSEL 33:330–331; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-30). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from Knöll's Latin text (CSEL 33, 1896); compared afterwards with the NPNF¹ 1 translation (Pilkington, 1886).
12.31CSEL 33:331–333
Cum enim duabus istis extremis sententiis resistere quisquam ita temptauerit: "si non uultis hanc informitatem materiae caeli et terrae nomine appellatam uideri, erat ergo aliquid, quod non fecerat deus, unde caelum et terram faceret; neque enim scriptura narrauit, quod istam materiem deus fecerit, nisi intellegamus eam caeli et terrae aut solius terrae uocabulo significatam, cum diceretur: in principio fecit deus caelum et terram, ut id, quod sequitur: terra autem erat inuisibilis et inconposita, quamuis informem materiam sic placuerit appellare, non tamen intellegamus nisi eam, quam fecit deus in eo, quod perscriptum est: fecit caelum et terram," respondebunt assertores duarum istarum sententiarum, quas extremas posuimus, aut illius aut illius, cum haec audierint, et dicent: "informem quidem istam materiam non negamus a deo factam, deo, a quo sunt omnia bona ualde, quia, sicut dicimus amplius bonum esse quod creatum atque formatum est, ita fatemur minus bonum esse quod factum est creabile atque formabile, sed tamen bonum: non autem conmemorasse scripturam, quod hanc informitatem fecerit deus, sicut alia multa non commemorauit, ut Cherubim et Seraphim, et quae apostolus distincte ait, sedes, dominationes, principatus, potestates, quae tamen omnia deum fecisse manifestum est. aut si in eo, quod dictum est: fecit caelum et terram, conprehensa sunt omnia, quid de aquis dicimus, super quas ferebatur spiritus dei? si enim terra nominata simul intelleguntur, quomodo iam terrae nomine materies informis accipitur, quando tam speciosas aquas uidemus? aut si ita accipitur, cur ex eadem informitate scriptum est factum firmamentum et uocatum caelum neque scriptum est factas esse aquas? non enim adhuc informes sunt et inuisae, quas ita decora specie fluere cernimus. aut si tunc acceperunt istam speciem, cum dixit deus: congregetur aqua, quae est sub firmamento, ut congregatio sit ipsa formatio, quid respondebitur de aquis, quae super firmamentum sunt, quia neque informes tam honorabilem sedem accipere meruissent nec scriptum est, qua uoce formatae sint? unde si aliquid Genesis tacuit deum fecisse, quod tamen deum fecisse nec sana fides nec certus ambigit intellectus, nec ideo ulla sobria doctrina dicere audebit istas aquas coaeternas deo, quia in libro Geneseos commemoratas quidem audimus, ubi autem factae sint, non inuenimus, cur non informem quoque illam materiem, quam scriptura haec terram inuisibilem et inconpositam tenebrosamque abyssum appellat, docente ueritate intellegamus ex deo factam esse de nihilo ideoque illi non esse coaeternam, quamuis ubi facta sit omiserit enuntiare ista narratio?"
For suppose someone tries to oppose the last two opinions in this way: "If you do not want this formlessness of matter to be seen as called by the name of heaven and earth, then there was something which God had not made, from which he made heaven and earth; for Scripture has not told that God made this matter, unless we understand it to be signified by the word heaven and earth, or earth alone, when it was said, 'In the beginning God made heaven and earth'; so that what follows, 'But the earth was invisible and unformed,' although it pleased Scripture to call formless matter so, we should understand only of that which God made in what is written, 'He made heaven and earth.'" The defenders of those two opinions which we put last, one or the other, when they hear this, will answer and say: "We do not deny that this formless matter was made by God, the God from whom all things are very good; for as we say that what is created and formed is a greater good, so we confess that what is made capable of being created and formed is a lesser good, but still good. But Scripture has not recorded that God made this formlessness, just as it has not recorded many other things, such as the cherubim and seraphim, and those that the apostle names distinctly, thrones, dominions, principalities, powers, all of which it is nevertheless plain that God made. Or if everything is included in what was said, 'He made heaven and earth,' what do we say of the waters over which the Spirit of God was moving? For if they are understood as included when earth is named, how is formless matter to be taken by the name of earth, when we see the waters so beautiful? Or if it is taken so, why is it written that the firmament was made from the same formlessness and called heaven, and it is not written that the waters were made? For they are no longer formless and invisible, since we see them flowing in such a lovely form. Or if they received this form when God said, 'Let the water under the firmament be gathered together,' so that the gathering is itself the forming, what will be answered about the waters above the firmament? For neither would they have deserved so honorable a place if they were formless, nor is it written by what word they were formed. So if Genesis is silent about something that God made, which yet neither sound faith nor sure understanding doubts that God made, and no sober teaching will therefore dare to say that these waters are coeternal with God because we hear them mentioned in the book of Genesis but do not find where they were made, why should we not also understand, as truth teaches, that that formless matter, which this Scripture calls the invisible and unformed earth and the dark abyss, was made by God from nothing and is therefore not coeternal with him, even though this account has omitted to say where it was made?"
Gen 1:1–2 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:31 (allusion, high confidence) · Col 1:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 1:6–9 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Genesis does not mention the making of formless matter, as it does not mention the angels or the waters; yet God made all these from nothing.
- Quotations and allusions: Gen 1:1-2, 31; Col 1:16; Gen 1:6-9.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.31 (CSEL 33:331–333; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-31). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.32CSEL 33:333
His ergo auditis atque perspectis pro captu infirmitatis meae, quam tibi confiteor scienti deo meo, duo uideo dissensionum genera oboriri posse, cum aliquid a nuntiis ueracibus per signa enuntiatur, unum, si de ueritate rerum, alterum, si de ipsius qui enuntiat uoluntate dissensio est. aliter enim quaerimus de creaturae conditione, quid uerum sit, aliter autem quid in his uerbis Moyses, egregius domesticus fidei tuae, intellegere lectorem auditoremque uoluerit. in illo primo genere discedant a me omnes, qui ea, quae falsa sunt, se scire arbitrantur. in hoc item altero discedant a me omnes, qui ea quae falsa sunt Moysen dixisse arbitrantur. coniungar autem illis, domine, in te et delecter cum eis in te, qui ueritate tua pascuntur in latitudine caritatis, et accedamus simul ad uerba libri tui et quaeramus in eis uoluntatem tuam per uoluntatem famuli tui, cuius calamo dispensasti ea.
Having heard and considered these things, then, as far as my weakness allows, which I confess to you, my God, who know it, I see that two kinds of disagreement can arise when something is reported in signs by truthful messengers: one, if the disagreement concerns the truth of the things; the other, if it concerns the intention of the one who reports. For it is one thing to ask what is true about the establishing of creation, another to ask what Moses, that outstanding servant of your household of faith, intended the reader and hearer to understand by these words. In the first kind, let all depart from me who think they know things that are false. In the second, likewise, let all depart from me who think that Moses said things that are false. But let me be joined with those, Lord, in you, and delight with them in you, who feed on your truth in the breadth of love; and let us approach together the words of your book and seek in them your intention through the intention of your servant, by whose pen you dispensed them.
Num 12:7 (allusion, medium confidence) · Heb 3:5 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Disagreements are either about the truth of things or about the author's intention; Augustine seeks God's intention through Moses'.
- Voluntas ("will, intention") of the author is rendered "intention." Allusion: Num 12:7 (Heb 3:5).
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.32 (CSEL 33:333; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-32). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.33CSEL 33:333–334
Sed quis nostrum sic inuenit eam inter tam multa uera, quae in illis uerbis aliter atque aliter intellectis occurrunt quaerentibus, ut tam fidenter dicat hoc sensisse Moysen atque hoc in illa narratione uoluisse intellegi, quam fidenter dicit hoc uerum esse, siue ille hoc senserit siue aliud? ecce enim, deus meus, ego seruus tuus, qui uoui tibi sacrificium confessionis in his litteris et oro, ut ex misericordia tua reddam tibi uota mea, ecce ego quam fidenter dico in tuo uerbo incommutabili omnia te fecisse, inuisibilia et uisibilia, numquid tam fidenter dico non aliud quam hoc adtendisse Moysen, cum scriberet: in principio fecit deus caelum et terram, quia non, sicut in tua ueritate hoc certum uideo, ita in eius mente uideo id eum cogitasse, cum haec scriberet? potuit enim cogitare in ipso faciendi exordio, cum diceret: in principio; potuit et caelum et terram hoc loco nullam iam formatam perfectamque naturam siue spiritalem siue corporalem, sed utramque inchoatam et adhuc informem uelle intellegi. uideo quippe uere potuisse dici, quidquid horum diceretur, sed quid horum in his uerbis ille cogitauerit, non ita uideo, quamuis siue aliquid horum siue quid aliud, quod a me conmemoratum non est, tantus uir ille mente conspexerit, cum haec uerba promeret, uerum eum uidisse apteque id enuntiauisse non dubitem.
But which of us has so found it among so many true things, which occur to those who seek in those words understood now one way and now another, that he can say as confidently that Moses meant this and wanted this to be understood in that account as he confidently says that this is true, whether Moses meant it or something else? For see, my God, I your servant, who have vowed to you a sacrifice of confession in this writing, and pray that by your mercy I may pay you my vows: see, I say confidently that in your unchangeable Word you made all things, invisible and visible; but do I say as confidently that Moses had nothing else in mind than this when he wrote, "In the beginning God made heaven and earth"? For I do not see in his mind that he thought this when he wrote these words, as I see it to be certain in your truth. For he could have been thinking of the very start of making when he said "in the beginning"; he could also have wanted "heaven and earth" in this place to be understood not of any nature already formed and completed, whether spiritual or bodily, but of both only begun and still formless. For I see that whichever of these were said could truly be said; but which of these he had in mind in these words I do not see in the same way; although, whether that great man saw in his mind one of these or something else that I have not mentioned when he uttered these words, I do not doubt that he saw what was true and expressed it fittingly.
Ps 116:17 (115:17 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence) · Col 1:16 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Augustine is certain what is true but not which true meaning Moses intended.
- Allusions: Ps 116:17; Col 1:16.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: n for u; stray letter; stray period): Moysen m atque → Moysen atque; noluisse intellegi → uoluisse intellegi; in tua. ueritate → in tua ueritate.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.33 (CSEL 33:333–334; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-33). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.34CSEL 33:334–335
Nemo iam mihi molestus sit dicendo mihi: "non hoc sensit Moyses, quod tu dicis, sed hoc sensit, quod ego dico." si enim mihi diceret: "unde scis hoc sensisse Moysen, quod de his uerbis eius eloqueris?" aequo animo ferre deberem et responderem fortasse, quae superius respondi uel aliquanto uberius, si esset durior. cum uero dicit: "non hoc ille sensit, quod tu dicis, sed quod ego dico" neque tamen negat, quod uterque nostrum dicit, utrumque uerum esse, o uita pauperum, deus meus, in cuius sinu non est contradictio, plue mihi mitigationes in cor, ut patienter tales feram; qui non mihi hoc dicunt, quia diuini sunt et in corde famuli tui uiderunt quod dicunt, sed quia superbi sunt nec nouerunt Moysi sententiam, sed amant suam, non quia uera est, sed quia sua est. alioquin et aliam ueram pariter amarent, sicut ego amo quod dicunt, quando uerum dicunt, non quia ipsorum, sed quia uerum est: et ideo iam nec ipsorum est, quia uerum est. si autem ideo ament illud, quia uerum est, iam et ipsorum est et meum est, quoniam in commune omnium est ueritatis amatorum. illud autem, quod contendunt non hoc sensisse Moysen, quod ego dico, sed quod ipsi dicunt, nolo, non amo, quia etsi ita est, tamen ista temeritas non scientiae, sed audaciae est, nec uisus, sed tyfus eam peperit. ideoque, domine, tremenda sunt iudicia tua, quoniam ueritas tua nec mea est nec illius aut illius, sed omnium nostrum, quos ad eius communionem publice uocas, terribiliter admonens nos, ut nolimus eam habere priuatam, ne priuemur ea. nam quisquis id, quod tu omnibus ad fruendum proponis, sibi proprie uindicat et suum uult esse quod omnium est, a communi propellitur ad sua, hoc est a ueritate ad mendacium. qui enim loquitur mendacium, de suo loquitur.
Let no one now trouble me by saying to me, "Moses did not mean what you say, but what I say." For if he said to me, "How do you know that Moses meant what you say about these words of his?" I ought to bear it calmly, and answer perhaps what I answered above, or somewhat more fully if he were more stubborn. But when he says, "He did not mean what you say, but what I say," and yet does not deny that what each of us says is true, then, O life of the poor, my God, in whose bosom there is no contradiction, rain softening into my heart, so that I may bear such people patiently. They say this to me not because they are godly and have seen in the heart of your servant what they say, but because they are proud; they do not know Moses' meaning, but they love their own, not because it is true but because it is theirs. Otherwise they would equally love another true meaning, as I love what they say when they say what is true, not because it is theirs but because it is true; and for that very reason it is no longer theirs, because it is true. But if they love it because it is true, it is both theirs and mine, since it is the common property of all lovers of truth. But their contention that Moses did not mean what I say but what they say, I do not want and do not love; because even if it is so, that rashness is born not of knowledge but of audacity, not of vision but of pride. And therefore, Lord, your judgments are to be feared, because your truth is neither mine nor his nor another's, but belongs to all of us whom you publicly call to share in it, warning us terribly not to want to hold it privately, lest we be deprived of it. For whoever claims as his own what you set before all to enjoy, and wants to be his own what belongs to all, is driven from the common to his own, that is, from truth to a lie. For "he who speaks a lie speaks from his own."
John 8:44 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Those who insist that only their reading is Moses' meaning love their own opinion, not the truth, which belongs to all.
- Quotation: John 8:44.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray semicolon): in cor,; ut → in cor, ut.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.34 (CSEL 33:334–335; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-34). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.35CSEL 33:335–336
Adtende, iudex optime, deus, ipsa ueritas, adtende, quid dicam contradictori huic, adtende; coram te enim dico et coram fratribus meis, qui legitime utuntur lege usque ad finem caritatis; adtende et uide, quid ei dicam, si placet tibi. hanc enim uocem huic refero fraternam et pacificam: si ambo uidemus uerum esse quod dicis et ambo uidemus uerum esse quod dico, ubi, quaeso, id uidemus? nec ego utique in te nec tu in me, sed ambo in ipsa quae supra mentes nostras est inconmutabili ueritate. cum ergo de ipsa domini dei nostri luce non contendamus, cur de proximi cogitatione contendimus, quam sic uidere non possumus, ut uidetur inconmutabilis ueritas, quando, si ipse Moyses apparuisset nobis atque dixisset: "hoc cogitaui", nec sic eam uideremus, sed crederemus? non itaque supra quam scriptum est unus pro altero infletur aduersus alterum. diligamus dominum deum nostrum ex toto corde, ex tota anima, ex tota mente nostra et proximum nostrum sicut nosmet ipsos. propter quae duo praecepta caritatis sensisse Moysen, quidquid in illis libris sensit, nisi crediderimus, mendacem faciemus dominum, cum de animo conserui aliter quam ille docuit opinamur. iam uide, quam stultum sit in tanta copia uerissimarum sententiarum, quae de illis uerbis erui possunt, temere adfirmare, quam earum Moyses potissimum senserit, et perniciosis contentionibus ipsam offendere caritatem, propter quam dixit omnia, cuius dicta conamur exponere.
Listen, best Judge, God, Truth itself, listen to what I say to this objector; listen, for I speak before you and before my brothers who use the law lawfully, to the end of love; listen and see what I say to him, if it pleases you. For this is the brotherly and peaceful word I give him: if we both see that what you say is true, and we both see that what I say is true, where, I ask, do we see it? Certainly I do not see it in you nor you in me, but both of us in the unchangeable Truth itself, which is above our minds. Since, then, we do not quarrel about the very light of the Lord our God, why do we quarrel about the thought of our neighbor, which we cannot see as the unchangeable Truth is seen? For even if Moses himself appeared to us and said, "This is what I meant," we would not see it even then, but believe it. So let us not "be puffed up one against another beyond what is written." "Let us love the Lord our God with all our heart, with all our soul, with all our mind, and our neighbor as ourselves." Unless we believe that Moses meant whatever he meant in those books for the sake of these two commandments of love, we shall make the Lord a liar, when we think of our fellow servant's mind otherwise than he taught. See, then, how foolish it is, amid so great an abundance of very true meanings that can be drawn from those words, to assert rashly which of them Moses chiefly meant, and by harmful quarrels to offend love itself, for whose sake he said all the things we are trying to explain.
1 Tim 1:8 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Tim 1:5 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 4:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 22:37–39 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 John 1:10 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Both readers see the truth in God, not in each other's minds; quarrels over Moses' intention offend the love for which he wrote.
- Quotations and allusions: 1 Tim 1:8, 5; 1 Cor 4:6; Matt 22:37-39; 1 John 1:10.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray period): usque ad. finem → usque ad finem.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.35 (CSEL 33:335–336; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-35). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.36CSEL 33:336–337
Et tamen ego, deus meus, celsitudo humilitatis meae et requies laboris mei, qui audis confessiones meas et dimittis peccata mea, quoniam tu mihi praecipis, ut diligam proximum meum sicut me ipsum, non possum minus credere de Moyse fidelissimo famulo tuo, quam mihi optarem ac desiderarem abs te dari muneris, si tempore illo natus essem quo ille eoque loci me constituisses, ut per seruitutem cordis ac linguae meae litterae illae dispensarentur, quae tanto post essent omnibus gentibus profuturae et per uniuersum orbem tanto auctoritatis culmine omnium falsarum superbarumque doctrinarum uerba superaturae. uellem quippe, si tunc ego essem Moyses — ex eadem namque massa omnes uenimus; et quid est homo, nisi quia memor es eius? — uellem ergo, si tunc ego essem quod ille et mihi abs te Geneseos liber scribendus adiungeretur, talem mihi eloquendi facultatem dari et eum texendi sermonis modum, ut neque illi, qui nondum queunt intellegere quemadmodum creat deus, tamquam excedentia uires suas dicta recusarent et illi, qui hoc iam possunt, in quamlibet ueram sententiam cogitando uenissent, eam non praetermissam in paucis uerbis tui famuli reperirent, et si alius aliam uidisset in luce ueritatis, nec ipsa in eisdem uerbis intellegenda deesset.
And yet, my God, height of my lowliness and rest of my labor, who hear my confessions and forgive my sins: since you command me to love my neighbor as myself, I cannot believe that you gave Moses, your most faithful servant, a lesser gift than I would wish and desire to be given to me by you, if I had been born at the time he was and you had placed me in that position, so that by the service of my heart and tongue those writings might be dispensed which were to benefit all nations so long afterward, and to surpass throughout the whole world, from so lofty a summit of authority, the words of all false and proud teachings. For I would have wished, if I had then been Moses (for we all come from the same lump; and "what is man, except that you are mindful of him?"), I would have wished, then, if I had been what he was and the book of Genesis had been assigned to me by you to write, that such a power of expression and such a manner of weaving words would be given me that those who cannot yet understand how God creates would not reject the words as beyond their powers, and those who can already do so would find, in the few words of your servant, whatever true meaning they had arrived at by thinking, not omitted; and if another saw another meaning in the light of truth, that too would not be missing from the same words for him to understand.
Matt 22:39 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 9:21 (allusion, medium confidence) · Ps 8:4 (8:5 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine would have wished, as author of Genesis, to write so that every true meaning could be found in his words; he credits Moses with this gift.
- Quotations and allusions: Matt 22:39; Rom 9:21; Ps 8:4.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (joined words (marked sic in the digital text)): esthomo → est homo.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.36 (CSEL 33:336–337; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-36). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.37CSEL 33:337–338
Sicut enim fons in paruo loco uberior est pluribusque riuis in ampliora spatia fluxum ministrat quam quilibet eorum riuorum, qui per multa locorum ab eodem fonte deducitur, ita narratio dispensatoris tui sermocinaturis pluribus profutura paruo sermonis modulo scatet fluenta liquidae ueritatis, unde sibi quisque uerum, quod de his rebus potest, hic illud, ille illud, per longiores loquellarum anfractus trahat. alii enim cum haec uerba legunt uel audiunt, cogitant deum quasi hominem aut quasi aliquam mole inmensa praeditam potestatem nouo quodam et repentino placito extra se ipsam tamquam locis distantibus fecisse caelum et terram, duo magna corpora supra et infra, quibus omnia continerentur, et cum audiunt: dixit deus: fiat illud, et factum est illud, cogitant uerba coepta et finita, sonantia temporibus atque transeuntia, post quorum transitum statim existeret quod iussum est ut existeret, et si quid forte aliud hoc modo ex familiaritate carnis opinantur. in quibus adhuc paruulis animalibus, dum isto humillimo genere uerborum tamquam materno sinu eorum gestatur infirmitas, salubriter aedificatur fides, qua certum habeant et teneant deum fecisse omnes naturas, quas eorum sensus mirabili uarietate circumspicit. quorum si quispiam quasi uilitatem dictorum aspernatus extra nutritorias cunas superba inbeccillitate se extenderit, heu! cadet miser et, domine deus, miserere, ne inplumem pullum conculcent qui transeunt uiam, et mitte angelum tuum, qui eum reponat in nido, ut uiuat, donec uolet.
For as a spring in a small place is more abundant, and supplies its flow to more streams over wider spaces than any one of those streams that is led from the same spring through many places, so the account of your dispenser, which was to benefit many who would speak of it, pours out from a small measure of speech floods of clear truth, from which each may draw for himself, by the longer windings of discussion, what truth he can about these things, one this and another that. For some, when they read or hear these words, think of God as a man, or as some power endowed with an immense mass, which by some new and sudden decision made heaven and earth outside itself, as if in distant places, two great bodies above and below, in which all things would be contained; and when they hear, "God said, 'Let it be made,' and it was made," they think of words begun and ended, sounding in time and passing away, after whose passing what had been commanded to exist at once came into existence; and whatever else of this kind they perhaps imagine from their familiarity with the flesh. In these, who are still little animals, while their weakness is carried by this very humble kind of speech as in a mother's bosom, faith is healthily built up, by which they hold for certain that God made all the natures which their senses see around them in wonderful variety. If any of them, despising the words as if lowly, stretches himself out of his nursery cradle in proud weakness, alas, he will fall, poor thing; and, Lord God, have mercy, lest those who pass by on the road trample the unfledged chick, and send your angel to put it back in the nest, so that it may live until it can fly.
Gen 1:3 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Genesis is like a small spring feeding many streams; simple readers are nourished by its plain sense as chicks in a nest.
- Allusion: Gen 1:3 ("God said, Let it be made").
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.37 (CSEL 33:337–338; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-37). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from Knöll's Latin text (CSEL 33, 1896); compared afterwards with the NPNF¹ 1 translation (Pilkington, 1886).
12.38CSEL 33:338–339
Alii uero, quibus haec uerba non iam nidus, sed opaca frutecta sunt, uident in eis latentes fructus et uolitant laetantes et garriunt scrutantes et carpunt eos. uident enim, cum haec uerba legunt uel audiunt, tua, deus, aeterne stabili permansione cuncta praeterita et futura tempora superari nec tamen quicquam esse temporalis creaturae, quod tu non feceris, cuius uoluntas, quia id est quod tu, nullo modo mutata uel quae antea non fuisset, exorta uoluntate fecisti omnia, non de te similitudinem tuam formam omnium, sed de nihilo dissimilitudinem informem, quae formaretur per similitudinem tuam recurrens in te unum pro captu ordinato, quantum cuique rerum suo genere datum est, et fierent omnia bona ualde, siue maneant circa te, siue gradatim remotiore distantia per tempora et locos pulchras uariationes faciant aut patiantur. uident haec et gaudent in luce ueritatis tuae, quantulum hic ualent.
But others, for whom these words are no longer a nest but shady thickets, see hidden fruits in them, and fly about rejoicing, and chirp as they search them out and pluck them. For when they read or hear these words, they see that all past and future times are surpassed by your eternal, stable permanence, O God; and yet that there is nothing in temporal creation which you did not make; and that you, whose will is what you are, made all things by no changed will, nor by a will arising which had not been before; not from yourself, a likeness of yourself, the form of all things, but from nothing, a formless unlikeness, to be formed through your likeness, returning to you, the One, according to its ordered capacity, as much as has been given to each thing in its kind; and that all things were made very good, whether they remain close to you, or, at a distance increasing by degrees, through times and places, make or undergo beautiful variations. They see these things and rejoice in the light of your truth, as far as they are able here.
Gen 1:31 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Mature readers see in Genesis God's eternity and his creation of all things from nothing, formed through his likeness.
- The Latin of the middle sentence is compressed; it is translated by sense. Allusion: Gen 1:31.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.38 (CSEL 33:338–339; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-38). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from Knöll's Latin text (CSEL 33, 1896); compared afterwards with the NPNF¹ 1 translation (Pilkington, 1886).
12.39CSEL 33:339–340
Et alius eorum intendit in id, quod dictum est: in principio fecit deus, et respicit sapientiam principium, quia et loquitur ipsa nobis. alius itidem intendit in eadem uerba et principium intellegit exordium rerum conditarum et sic accipit: in principio fecit, ac si diceretur: primo fecit. atque in eis, qui intellegunt in principio, quod in sapientia fecit caelum et terram, alius eorum ipsum caelum et terram, creabilem materiam caeli et terrae, sic esse credit cognominatam, alius iam formatas distinctasque naturas, alius unam formatam eandemque spiritalem caeli nomine, aliam informem corporalis materiae terrae nomine. qui autem intellegunt in nominibus caeli et terrae adhuc informem materiam, de qua formaretur caelum et terra, nec ipsi uno more id intellegunt, sed alius, unde consummaretur intellegibilis sensibilisque creatura, alius tantum, unde sensibilis moles ista corporea sinu grandi continens perspicuas promptasque naturas. nec illi uno modo, qui iam dispositas digestasque creaturas caelum et terram uocari hoc loco credunt, sed alius inuisibilem atque uisibilem, alius solam uisibilem, in qua luminosum caelum suspicimus et terram caliginosam quaeque in eis sunt.
And one of them attends to what was said, "In the beginning God made," and looks to Wisdom as the Beginning, "because it also speaks to us." Another likewise attends to the same words and understands "the beginning" as the start of created things, and takes "In the beginning he made" as if it were said, "First he made." And among those who understand "in the beginning" to mean that he made heaven and earth in Wisdom, one believes that heaven and earth themselves, the matter capable of creating heaven and earth, were so named; another, natures already formed and distinguished; another, one formed and spiritual nature by the name of heaven, the other the formless nature of bodily matter by the name of earth. And those who understand by the names of heaven and earth the still formless matter from which heaven and earth would be formed do not understand it in one way either; but one understands the matter from which the intelligible and sensible creation would be completed, another only that from which this sensible bodily mass would be made, holding in its great bosom the visible and evident natures. Nor do those agree who believe that heaven and earth in this place are the creatures already arranged and set in order; but one understands the invisible and visible, another only the visible, in which we look up to the shining heaven and the dark earth and the things that are in them.
Gen 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:25 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Readers variously take "beginning" as Wisdom or as "first," and "heaven and earth" in several senses.
- Quotations: Gen 1:1; John 8:25 (Old Latin, as in Conf. 11.10).
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.39 (CSEL 33:339–340; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-39). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from Knöll's Latin text (CSEL 33, 1896); compared afterwards with the NPNF¹ 1 translation (Pilkington, 1886).
12.40CSEL 33:340–342
At ille, qui non aliter accipit: in principio fecit, quam si diceretur: primo fecit, non habet quomodo ueraciter intellegat caelum et terram, nisi materiam caeli et terrae intellegat, uidelicet uniuersae, id est intellegibilis corporalisque creaturae. si enim iam formatam uelit uniuersam, recte ab eo quaeri poterit, si hoc primo fecit deus, quid fecerit deinceps, et post uniuersitatem non inueniet ac per hoc audiet inuitus: "quomodo illud primo, si postea nihil?" cum uero dicit primo informem, deinde formatam, non est absurdus, si modo est idoneus discernere, quid praecedat aeternitate, quid tempore, quid electione, quid origine: aeternitate, sicut deus omnia; tempore, sicut flos fructum; electione, sicut fructus florem; origine, sicut sonus cantum. in his quattuor primum et ultimum, quae conmemoraui, difficillime intelleguntur, duo media facillime. namque rara uisio est et nimis ardua conspicere, domine, aeternitatem tuam inconmutabiliter mutabilia facientem ac per hoc priorem. quis deinde sic acutum cernat animo, ut sine labore magno dinoscere ualeat, quomodo sit prior sonus quam cantus, ideo quia cantus est formatus sonus et esse utique aliquid non formatum potest, formari autem quod non est non potest? sic est prior materies quam id, quod ex ea fit, non ideo prior, quia ipsa efficit, cum potius fiat, nec prior interuallo temporis. neque enim priore tempore sonos edimus informes sine cantu et eos posteriore tempore in formam cantici coaptamus aut fingimus, sicut ligna, quibus arca, uel argentum, quo uasculum fabricatur; tales quippe materiae tempore etiam praecedunt formas rerum, quae fiunt ex eis. at in cantu non ita est. cum enim cantatur, auditur sonus eius, non prius informiter sonat et deinde formatur in cantum. quod enim primo utcumque sonuerit, praeterit, nec ex eo quicquam reperies, quod resumptum arte conponas: et ideo cantus in sono suo uertitur, qui sonus eius materies eius est. idem quippe formatur, ut cantus sit. et ideo, sicut dicebam, prior materies sonandi quam forma cantandi: non per faciendi potentiam prior; neque enim sonus est cantandi artifex, sed cantanti animae subiacet ex corpore, de quo cantum faciat; nec tempore prior: simul enim cum cantu editur; nec prior electione: non enim potior sonus quam cantus, quandoquidem cantus est non tantum sonus uerum etiam speciosus sonus. sed prior est origine, quia non cantus formatur, ut sonus sit, sed sonus formatur, ut cantus sit. hoc exemplo qui potest intellegat materiam rerum primo factam et appellatam caelum et terram, quia inde facta sunt caelum et terra, nec tempore primo factam, quia formae rerum exserunt tempora, illa autem erat informis iamque in temporibus simul animaduertitur, nec tamen de illa narrari aliquid potest, nisi uelut tempore prior sit, cum pendatur extremior, quia profecto meliora sunt formata quam informia, et praecedatur aeternitate creatoris, ut esset de nihilo, unde aliquid fieret.
But he who takes "In the beginning he made" in no other way than as if it were said, "First he made," has no way to understand "heaven and earth" truly unless he understands the matter of heaven and earth, that is, of the whole creation, intelligible and bodily. For if he wants it to be the whole creation already formed, he could rightly be asked: if God made this first, what did he make next? And he will find nothing after the whole, and so will hear, against his will, "How is that first, if there is nothing after?" But when he says that God made it first formless and then formed, he is not absurd, provided he is able to discern what precedes by eternity, what by time, what by choice, and what by origin: by eternity, as God precedes all things; by time, as the flower precedes the fruit; by choice, as the fruit is preferred to the flower; by origin, as sound precedes song. Of these four, the first and last I have mentioned are very hard to understand, the two in the middle very easy. For it is a rare and very arduous vision, Lord, to behold your eternity unchangeably making changeable things, and therefore prior to them. Then who has so sharp a mind as to be able to discern without great labor how sound is prior to song, because song is formed sound, and something unformed can certainly exist, but what does not exist cannot be formed? So matter is prior to what is made from it, not because it makes it, since rather it is made, nor prior by an interval of time. For we do not first utter formless sounds without song and afterward fit or shape them into the form of a song, as with wood from which a chest is made, or silver from which a vessel is fashioned; for such materials do precede in time the forms of the things made from them. But with song it is not so. For when it is sung, its sound is heard; it does not first sound formlessly and then is formed into song. For whatever has sounded in any way passes away, and you will find nothing of it that you could take up again and compose by art; and so song is turned in its own sound, and that sound is its matter. For the sound itself is formed so as to be song. And so, as I said, the matter of sounding is prior to the form of singing: not prior by the power of making, for sound is not the maker of the song, but is supplied from the body to the singing soul, from which to make the song; nor prior in time, for it is uttered together with the song; nor prior by choice, for sound is not better than song, since song is not only sound but beautiful sound. But it is prior by origin, because song is not formed so as to be sound, but sound is formed so as to be song. By this example let whoever can understand that the matter of things was made first and called heaven and earth, because heaven and earth were made from it; and not made first in time, because the forms of things give rise to times, while it was formless, and is only perceived together with them in times; and yet nothing can be told of it except as if it were prior in time, although it is ranked last, because formed things are certainly better than formless ones; and it is preceded by the eternity of the Creator, so that it might exist from nothing, from which something could be made.
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Summary: Formless matter is prior to formed things not in time but in origin, as sound is prior to song.
- Augustine's four kinds of priority: by eternity (aeternitate), time (tempore), choice (electione), and origin (origine).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: n for u): praecedatnr → praecedatur.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.40 (CSEL 33:340–342; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-40). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.41CSEL 33:342–343
In hac diuersitate sententiarum uerarum concordiam pariat ipsa ueritas, et deus noster misereatur nostri, ut legitime lege utamur, praecepti fine, pura caritate. ac per hoc, si quis quaerit ex me, quid horum Moyses, tuus ille famulus, senserit, non sunt hi sermones confessionum mearum. si tibi non confiteor, nescio et scio tamen illas ueras esse sententias exceptis carnalibus, de quibus quantum existimaui locutus sum. quos tamen bonae spei paruulos haec uerba libri tui non territant alta humiliter et pauca copiose; sed omnes, quos in eis uerbis uera cernere ac dicere fateor, diligamus nos inuicem pariterque diligamus te, deum nostrum, fontem ueritatis, si non uana, sed ipsam sitimus, eundemque famulum tuum, scripturae huius dispensatorem, spiritu tuo plenum, ita honoremus, ut hoc eum te reuelante, cum haec scriberet, adtendisse credamus, quod in eis maxime et luce ueritatis et fruge utilitatis excellit.
In this diversity of true opinions, let Truth itself bring forth concord, and "may our God have mercy on us," that we may use the law lawfully, for the end of the commandment, pure love. And so, if anyone asks me which of these Moses, your servant, meant, these are not the words of my confessions if I do not confess to you: I do not know. And yet I know that those opinions are true, except the carnal ones, about which I have said what I thought. Yet these words of your book, lofty in their lowliness and rich in their few words, do not frighten those little ones of good hope. But let all of us whom I acknowledge to see and speak what is true in these words love one another, and equally love you, our God, the fountain of truth, if we thirst not for vain things but for truth itself; and let us so honor your servant himself, the dispenser of this Scripture, full of your Spirit, as to believe that, when he wrote these things by your revelation, he attended to what is most excellent in them both in the light of truth and in the fruit of usefulness.
Ps 67:1 (66:2 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 1:5 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 John 4:7 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Augustine does not know which true meaning Moses intended, but asks that all who see the truth love one another and honor Moses.
- Quotation: Ps 67:1; allusions 1 Tim 1:5, 8; 1 John 4:7.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.41 (CSEL 33:342–343; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/12-23/#p-12-41). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from Knöll's Latin text (CSEL 33, 1896); compared afterwards with the NPNF¹ 1 translation (Pilkington, 1886).