Against the Academics 2.14–3.4
Latin text: Knöll, CSEL 63 (Latin text: Pius Knöll, ed., Sancti Aureli Augustini opera, sect. I, pars 3, CSEL 63 (Vienna: Tempsky; Leipzig: Freytag, 1922), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).
Chapter 2
2.14CSEL 63:33–34
Deinde, cum tantum alimentorum accepissemus, quantum compescendae fami satis esset. ad pratum regressis nobis Alypius: Paream, inquit, sententiae tuae nec ausim recusare. si enim nihil me fugerit, gratabor cum doctrinae tuae tum etiam memoriae meae. at si in quoquam fortasse aberrauero, recurabis id, ut deinceps huius modi delegationem non pertimescam. nouae Academiae discidium non tam contra ueterem conceptum quam contra Stoicos arbitror esse commotum. nec uero discidium putandum, si quidem a Zenone inlatam nouam quaestionem dissolui discutique oportebat. nam de non percipiendo quamuis nullis conflictationibus agitata, incolens tamen etiam ueterum Academicorum mentes sententia non inpudenter existimata est. quod etiam ipsius Socratis Platonisque ac reliquorum ueterum auctoritate probatu facile est, qui se hactenus crediderunt posse ab errore defendi, si se assensioni non temere commisissent, quamuis propriam de hac re disputationem in scholas suas non introduxerint nec ab illis enucleate aliquando quaesitum sit, percipi necne ueritas possit. quod cum Zeno rude ac nouum intulisset contenderetque nihil percipi posse, nisi quod uerum ita esset, ut dissimilibus notis a falso discerneretur, neque opinationem subeundam esse sapienti atque id Arcesilas audiret, negauit huius modi quidquam posse ab homine reperiri neque illi opinionis naufragio sapientis committendam esse uitam. unde etiam conclusit nulli rei esse adsentiendum.
Then, when we had taken enough food to check our hunger and had returned to the meadow, Alypius said: "I will obey your decision and would not dare refuse. If nothing escapes me, I will rejoice both in your teaching and in my memory. But if I perhaps go astray in anything, you will put it right, so that from now on I need not dread such a commission. I think the split of the New Academy was set in motion not so much against the conception of the Old as against the Stoics. Nor indeed should it be thought a split, since the new question brought in by Zeno had to be resolved and discussed. For the view about not perceiving, though not stirred up by any conflicts, was not shamelessly thought to dwell in the minds of the Old Academics too. This is easy to prove even from the authority of Socrates and Plato themselves and the other ancients, who believed they could be defended from error so far as they had not rashly committed themselves to assent, although they did not introduce a special discussion of this matter into their schools, nor was it ever precisely inquired by them whether truth can be perceived or not. When Zeno brought this in, rough and new, and contended that nothing can be perceived except what is so true that it is distinguished from the false by marks unlike it, and that the wise man must not hold opinion, and Arcesilas heard this, he denied that anything of this kind can be found by man, and said that the wise man's life must not be committed to that shipwreck of opinion. Hence he also concluded that one should assent to nothing."
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Summary: Alypius explains that the New Academy of Arcesilas arose against the Stoic Zeno, not against the Old Academy, whose suspicion of rash assent it developed into the refusal to assent to anything.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 2.14 (CSEL 63:33–34; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-2-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.15CSEL 63:34
Uerum cum ita res se habeat, ut uetus Academia magis aucta quam oppugnata uideretur, extitit Philonis auditor Antiochus, qui. ut nonnullis uisus est, gloriae cupidior quam ueritatis in simultatem adduxit Academiae utriusque sententias. dicebat enim rem insolitam et ab opinione ueterum remotissimam Academicos nouos conatos inducere. in quam rem ueterum physicorum aliorumque magnorum philosophorum inplorabat fidem ipsos etiam Academicos oppugnans, qui se ueri simile contenderent sequi, cum ipsum uerum se ignorare faterentur, multaque argumenta collegerat, quibus nunc supersedendum arbitror, nihil tamen magis defendebat quam percipere posse sapientem. hanc puto inter Academicos nouos ac ueteres controuersiam fuisse. quae si secus se habet, ut Licentium plenissime informes pro utroque postulauerim. si uero ita est, ut dicere potui. susceptam disputationem peragite.
"But although matters stood so that the Old Academy seemed to have been enlarged rather than attacked, Antiochus, a hearer of Philo, arose, who, as some thought, more eager for glory than for truth, brought the opinions of the two Academies into conflict. For he said that the New Academics had tried to introduce something unheard of and very far removed from the opinion of the ancients. For this he appealed to the testimony of the old natural philosophers and other great philosophers, attacking also the Academics themselves, who contended that they followed what is like the truth while confessing that they did not know the truth itself. He had gathered many arguments, which I think must be passed over now; but he defended nothing more than that the wise man can perceive. This, I think, was the controversy between the New and Old Academics. If it is otherwise, I ask that you inform Licentius very fully on behalf of both. But if it is as I have been able to say, carry through the discussion you have undertaken."
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Summary: Alypius adds that Antiochus, Philo's pupil, set the two Academies against each other, defending against the New Academy the view that the wise man can perceive the truth.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 2.15 (CSEL 63:34; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-2-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.16CSEL 63:34–35
Tum ego: Quamdiu, inquam, Licenti, in isto nostro longiore quam putabam sermone conquiescis? audisti, qui sint Academici tui? — At ille uerecunde adridens et aliquantum hac compellatione turbatior: Paenitet me, inquit, tanto opere adfirmasse contra Trygetium beatam uitam in ueritatis inquisitione consistere. nam me ista quaestio ita perturbat, ut uix non miser sim, qui certe uobis, si quid humanitatis geritis, uideor miserandus. sed quid me ipse ineptus crucio? aut quid exhorreo tanta causae bonitate subnixus? prorsus non cedam nisi ueritati. — Placentne. inquam, tibi noui Academici? — Plurimum, inquit. — Ergo uerum tibi uidentur dicere? — Tum ille cum iam esset assensurus arrisione Alypii cautior factus haesit aliquantum et deinde: Repete, inquit, rogatiunculam. —Verumne, inquam, tibi uidentur Academici dicere? — Et rursus cum diu tacuisset: Utrum, ait, uerum sit, nescio; probabile est tamen. neque enim plus uideo quod sequar. — Probabile, inquam, scisne ab ipsis etiam ueri simile nominari? — Ita, inquit uidetur. — Ergo, inquam, ueri similis est Academicorum sententia. — Ita, inquit. — Quaeso attende, inquam, diligentius. si quisquam fratrem tuum uisum patris tui similem esse affirmet ipsumque tuum patrem non nouerit, nonne tibi insanus aut ineptus uidebitur? — Et hic diu tacuit; tum ait: Non mihi hoc uidetur absurdum.
Then I said: "How long, Licentius, are you going to rest during this conversation of ours, longer than I expected? Have you heard who your Academics are?" And he, smiling bashfully and somewhat disturbed by this address, said: "I am sorry I asserted so strongly against Trygetius that the happy life consists in the search for truth. For this question disturbs me so much that I am almost wretched, and I surely seem to you pitiable, if you have any humanity. But why do I foolishly torment myself? Or why do I shudder, supported by so good a cause? I will certainly yield to nothing but the truth." "Do the New Academics please you?" I said. "Very much," he said. "Then they seem to you to speak the truth?" Then, when he was about to agree, he was made more cautious by Alypius's smile and hesitated a little, and then said: "Repeat your little question." "Do the Academics seem to you to speak the truth?" I said. And again, after a long silence, he said: "Whether it is true, I do not know; but it is probable. For I see nothing more that I may follow." "Probable," I said: "do you know that they also call it 'like the truth'?" "So it seems," he said. "So," I said, "the opinion of the Academics is like the truth." "Yes," he said. "Please pay closer attention," I said. "If someone asserted that your brother, on seeing him, was like your father, and did not know your father himself, would he not seem to you mad or foolish?" And here he was silent a long time; then he said: "This does not seem absurd to me."
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Summary: Augustine leads Licentius to admit that the Academics' view seems probable or truthlike, and asks whether one who called a son like a father he had never seen would not be foolish.
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- Digital text corrected (OCR dropped a letter and comma.; OCR slip.; Word split in the digital text.): Verumnc → Verumne; pro babile → probabile; Probabil inquam → Probabile, inquam.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 2.16 (CSEL 63:34–35; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-2-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.17CSEL 63:35–36
Cui ego cum respondere coepissem: Expecta, inquit, quaeso paululum. ac post arridens: Dic mihi, ait, oro te, iamne certus es de uictoria tua? — Tum ego: Fac me, inquam, certum esse; non ideo tamen tu causam tuam debes deserere, praesertim cum haec inter nos disputatio suscepta sit exercendi tui causa et ad elimandum animum prouocandi. — Numquidnam, inquit, aut Academicos legi aut tot disciplinis eruditus sum, quibus tu ad me instructus aduentas? — Academicos, inquam, nec illi legerant, a quibus primo sententia ista defensa est. eruditio autem disciplinarumque copia si te deficit, non usque adeo tamen ingenium tuum esse debet inualidum, ut nullo facto impetu paucissimis uerbis meis rogationibusque succumbas. illud enim iam uereri coepi, ne tibi citius quam uolo succedat Alypius, quo aduersario non ita securus deambulabo. — Ergo utinam, inquit ille, iam uincar, ut aliquando uos audiam disserentes et, quod plus est, uideam, quo mihi spectaculo nihil potest felicius exhiberi. nam quoniam placuit uobis ista fundere potius quam effundere, si quidem ore prorumpentia stilo excipitis nec in terram, ut dicitur, cadere sinitis, legere etiam uos licebit; sed nescio quo modo, cum admouentur oculis idem ipsi, quos inter sermo caeditur, bona disputatio si non utilius, at certe laetius perfundit animum,
When I had begun to answer him, he said: "Wait a little, please." And then, smiling: "Tell me, I beg you, are you already sure of your victory?" Then I said: "Suppose I am sure; you still should not therefore abandon your case, especially since this discussion between us was undertaken for the sake of exercising you and challenging you to polish your mind." "Have I read the Academics," he said, "or been trained in as many disciplines as you come equipped with against me?" "Those who first defended that opinion," I said, "had not read the Academics either. And if learning and a wealth of disciplines fail you, still your mind ought not to be so feeble that you give in to a very few words and questions of mine without making any attack. For I have begun to fear that Alypius may take your place sooner than I wish, and with him as opponent I will not walk about so carefree." "Then I wish," he said, "that I were already defeated, so that I might at last hear you two discussing, and, what is more, see you; no spectacle could be shown me happier than that. For since you have decided to pour these things out rather than pour them away, since you catch with the pen what bursts from your mouth and do not let it fall to the ground, as they say, it will also be possible to read you; but somehow, when the very men between whom the conversation is struck are before one's eyes, a good discussion floods the mind, if not more usefully, at least more delightfully."
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Summary: Licentius pleads his lack of learning and wishes to be defeated so that he may see Augustine and Alypius debate each other.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 2.17 (CSEL 63:35–36; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-2-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.18CSEL 63:36
Gratum habemus, inquam; sed repentina ista gaudia tua temere illam sententiam euadere coegerunt, qua dixisti nullum tibi spectaculum exhiberi posse felicius. quid, si enim patrem illum tuum. quo profecto nemo philosophiam est post tam longam sitim hausturus ardentius, nobiscum ista quaerentem ac disserentem uidebis. cum ego me fortunatiorem numquam putabo, quid te tandem sentire ac dicere conuenit? — Hic uero ille aliquantum lacrimauit et, ubi loqui potuit, porrecta manu caelum suspiciens: Et quando ego, inquit, deus, hoc uidebo? sed nihil est de te desperandum. — Hic cum paene omnes ab intentione disputationis dimitti in lacrimas coepissemus, obluctans mecum et uix me colligens: Age potius. inquam, et in uires tuas redi, quas ut congereres undeunde posses patronus Academiae futurus, longe ante monueram. non opinor ideo, ut modo ante tubam tremor occupet artus aut ut uisendae alienae pugnae desiderio tam cito te optes esse captiuum. — Hic Trygetius, ubi satis attendit iam uultus nostros serenatos: Quidni iste optet, inquit, homo tam sanctus, ut hoc ei deus ante uota concesserit? crede iam, Licenti; nam qui non inuenis quid respondeas, et adhuc ut uincare optas, paruae fidei mihi uideris. — Arrisimus. — Tum Licentius: Loquere beatus, inquit. non inueniendo uerum, sed certe non quaerendo.
"We are grateful," I said; "but this sudden joy of yours has made that statement slip out rashly, in which you said no spectacle could be shown you happier. For what if you see that father of yours, than whom surely no one will drink philosophy more ardently after so long a thirst, seeking and discussing these things with us? Since I shall never think myself more fortunate, what then should you feel and say?" At this he wept a little, and when he could speak, stretching out his hand and looking up to heaven, he said: "And when, O God, shall I see this? But nothing is to be despaired of from you." Here, when almost all of us had begun to be drawn from the attention of the discussion into tears, struggling with myself and barely collecting myself, I said: "Come, rather, and return to your strength, which I warned you long ago to gather from wherever you could, as the future advocate of the Academy; not, I think, so that now 'before the trumpet trembling should seize your limbs,' or that you should wish to be taken prisoner so quickly out of desire to watch another's fight." Here Trygetius, when he had noted well that our faces had cleared, said: "Why should he not wish it, a man so holy that God granted it to him before his prayers? Believe now, Licentius; for since you cannot find an answer and still wish to be defeated, you seem to me of little faith." We laughed. Then Licentius said: "Speak, happy man, not by finding the truth, but certainly by not seeking it."
Matt 8:26 (echo, low confidence)
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Summary: Augustine's mention of Romanianus joining them moves Licentius to tears and prayer, and the discussion resumes with banter between the young men.
- The quoted phrase adapts Vergil, Aeneid 11.424. Trygetius's "of little faith" echoes the Gospel phrase (Matt 6:30; 8:26).
Extrabiblical texts: Virgil, Aen. 11.424 (Virgil; quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 2.18 (CSEL 63:36; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-2-18). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.19CSEL 63:36–37
Qua hilaritate adulescentulorum cum essemus laetiores: Attende, inquam, rogationem et in uiam firmior et ualentior redi, si potes. — En adsum, inquit, quantum possum. quid enim. si ille fratris mei uisor fama compertum habeat eum esse similem patris, potest insanus aut ineptus esse, si credit? — Stultusne, inquam, saltem dici potest? — Non continuo, inquit, nisi se id scire contenderit. nam si ut probabile sequitur quod crebra fama iactauit, nullius temeritatis argui potest. — Tum ego: Rem ipsam paulisper consideremus et quasi ante oculos constituamus. ecce fac illum nescio quem hominem, quem describimus, esse praesentem; aduenit alicunde frater tuus. ibi iste: cuius hic puer filius? respondetur: cuiusdam Romaniani. at hic: quam patris similis est! quam non temere hoc ad me fama detulerat! hic tu uel quis alius: nosti enim Romanianum, bone homo? non noui, inquit; tamen similis eius mihi uidetur. poteritne quisquam risum tenere? — Nullo modo, inquit. — Ergo, inquam, quid sequatur uides. — Iam dudum, inquit, uideo. sed tamen ipsam conclusionem abs te audire uolo; oportet enim alere incipias quem cepisti. — Quidni, inquam, concludam? ipsa res clamat similiter ridendos esse Academicos tuos, qui se in uita ueri similitudinem sequi dicunt, cum ipsum uerum quod sit ignorent.
Since we were made merrier by this cheerfulness of the young men, I said: "Attend to the question, and return to the road firmer and stronger, if you can." "Here I am," he said, "as far as I can be. For what if that man who saw my brother had learned by report that he was like his father: can he be mad or foolish if he believes it?" "Can he at least be called stupid?" I said. "Not necessarily," he said, "unless he contends that he knows it. For if he follows as probable what frequent report has spread, he cannot be accused of any rashness." Then I said: "Let us consider the matter itself a little and set it, as it were, before our eyes. See, suppose that man we are describing, whoever he is, is present; your brother arrives from somewhere. Then the man says: 'Whose son is this boy?' The answer is: 'A certain Romanianus's.' And he: 'How like his father he is! How rightly report had brought this to me!' Here you or someone else says: 'Do you know Romanianus, good man?' 'I do not know him,' he says; 'still he seems to me like him.' Could anyone keep from laughing?" "Not at all," he said. "So," I said, "you see what follows." "I have seen it for some time," he said; "but still I want to hear the conclusion itself from you; for you ought to begin feeding the one you have captured." "Why should I not conclude?" I said. "The thing itself cries out that your Academics are equally to be laughed at, who say that in life they follow what is like the truth, though they do not know what the truth itself is."
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Summary: Augustine illustrates with a comic scene the absurdity of calling something like the truth without knowing the truth itself, and concludes that the Academics deserve the same ridicule.
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- Digital text corrected (OCR misread eum as cum.; OCR misreading.): K on continuo → Non continuo; habeat cum esse → habeat eum esse.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 2.19 (CSEL 63:36–37; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-2-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.20CSEL 63:37–38
Tum Trygetius: Longe mihi, inquit, uidetur dissimilis Academicorum cautio ab huius quem descripsistis ineptia. illi enim rationibus assequuntur quod dicunt esse ueri simile, iste autem ineptus famam secutus est, cuius auctoritate nihil est uilius. — Quasi uero, inquam, non esset ineptior, si diceret: patrem quidem eius minime noui nec fama comperi, quam sit similis patri; sed mihi tamen similis uidetur. — Ineptior certe, inquit. sed quorsum ista? — Quia tales, inquam, sunt qui dicunt: uerum quidem non nouimus, sed hoc quod uidemus eius quod non nouimus simile est. — Probabile, inquit, illi dicunt. — Cui ego: Quomodo istuc dicis? an negas eos ueri simile dicere? — Et ille: Ego, inquit, ob hoc dicere uolui, ut illam similitudinem excluderem. uidebatur enim mihi fama inprobe inruisse in quaestionem uestram, cum Academici ne oculis quidem credant humanis, nedum famae mille quidem, ut poetae fingunt, sed monstrosis tamen luminibus. nam quis ego tandem sum Academiae defensor? an in quaestione ista inuidetis securitati meae? en habes Alypium, cuius aduentus nobis quaeso ferias dederit, quem te iam dudum non frustra formidare arbitremur.
Then Trygetius said: "The caution of the Academics seems to me very unlike the foolishness of the man you have described. For they reach by reasoning what they say is like the truth, while that fool followed report, than whose authority nothing is more worthless." "As though," I said, "he would not be more foolish if he said: 'I do not know his father at all, nor have I learned by report how like his father he is; but still he seems to me like him.'" "More foolish certainly," he said; "but what is the point of this?" "That such are those," I said, "who say: 'We do not know the truth, but this which we see is like what we do not know.'" "They say 'probable,'" he said. To which I said: "How do you mean that? Do you deny that they say 'like the truth'?" And he said: "I wanted to say it in order to exclude that likeness. For it seemed to me that report had wrongly broken into your question, since the Academics do not trust even human eyes, much less report, with its thousand eyes, as the poets imagine, but monstrous ones. For who am I, after all, to be a defender of the Academy? Or do you begrudge me my freedom from care in this question? Look, you have Alypius, whose arrival I pray may give us a holiday, and whom we may think you have long feared, not without reason."
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Summary: Trygetius distinguishes the Academics' reasoned probability from belief in report, Augustine replies that the absurdity remains, and Trygetius hands the defense over to Alypius.
- Report (Fama) with countless eyes is Vergil's figure, Aeneid 4.181–83.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip.): quacstione → quaestione.
Extrabiblical texts: Virgil, Aen. 4.181–183 (Virgil; allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 2.20 (CSEL 63:37–38; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-2-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.21CSEL 63:38
Tum facto silentio oculos ambo in Alypium contulerunt. tum ille: Uellem quidem, inquit, ut meae uires patiuntur, auxiliari aliquatenus partibus uestris, nisi mihi omen uestrum terrori esset. sed hanc formidinem, ni me spes fefellerit, facile fugem. simul enim solatur me, quod praesens Academicorum oppugnator onus Trygetii uicti paene subierit, et nunc eum uictorem uestra confessione probabile est. illud magis uereor, ne et deserti officii neglegentiam et inuasi inpudentiam deuitare non possim. non enim uos oblitos credo iudicis mihi munus fuisse delatum. — Hic Trygetius: Illud. inquit, aliud, hoc autem aliud est; quare quaesumus, ut te aliquando patiare priuatum. — Ne rennuerim, ait, ne, cum inpudentiam uel neglegentiam uitare cupio, in superbiae, quo uitio nihil est inmanius, laqueos incidam, si honorem mihi a uobis concessum diutius quam permittitis teneam.
Then, when silence had fallen, both turned their eyes to Alypius. Then he said: "I would indeed like, as far as my strength allows, to help your side somewhat, if your omen did not frighten me. But I may easily put this fear to flight, unless hope deceives me. For at the same time it consoles me that the present attacker of the Academics has almost taken on the burden of the defeated Trygetius, and now by your own admission it is probable that he is the victor. I am more afraid that I may not be able to avoid both the negligence of deserting my office and the impudence of invading another's. For I do not think you have forgotten that the office of judge was conferred on me." Here Trygetius said: "That is one thing, this another; so we ask you to allow yourself at last to be a private person." "I would not refuse," he said, "lest, while I wish to avoid impudence or negligence, I fall into the snares of pride, than which no vice is more monstrous, if I held the honor granted me by you longer than you permit."
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Summary: Alypius, after some hesitation over his role as judge, agrees to step down and take up the Academics' side.
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- Digital text corrected (OCR garbled eum.; OCR misread uobis as nobis; the sense requires 'by you'.; OCR slip.): nunc cur. uictorem → nunc eum uictorem; uereor, ue et → uereor, ne et; ait, nc, cum → ait, ne, cum; mihi a nobis concessum → mihi a uobis concessum.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 2.21 (CSEL 63:38; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-2-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.22CSEL 63:38–39
Proinde uelim mihi exponas, bone accusator Academicorum, officium tuum, id est, in quorum defensione hos oppugnes. metuo enim, ne Academicos refellens Academicum te probare uelis. — Accusatorum. inquam, ut opinor, duo genera esse bene nosti. si enim a Cicerone modestissime dictum est ita eum esse Uerris accusatorem, ut Siculorum defensor esset, propterea necesse est eum, qui aliquem accuset. habere alterum, quem defendat. — Et ille: Saltem habesne tu quidquam, in quo sententia tua iam fundata constiterit? — Facile est, inquam. huic rogationi respondere mihi praesertim. cui repentina non est; iam hoc totum mecum egi et diu multumque uersaui animo. quam ob rem audi, Alypi, quod, ut arbitror, iam optime scis: non ego istam disputationem disputandi gratia susceptam uolo. satis sit quod cum istis adulescentibus prolusimus, ubi libenter nobiscum philosophia quasi iocata est. quare auferantur de manibus nostris fabellae pueriles. de uita nostra de moribus de animo res agitur, qui se superaturum inimicitias omnium fallaciarum et ueritate conprehensa quasi in regionem suae originis rediens triumphaturum de libidinibus atque ita temperantia uelut coniuge accepta regnaturum esse praesumit securior rediturus in caelum. uides quid dicam. tollamus iam cuncta ista de medio arma acri facienda uiro; nec quidquam minus semper optaui quam inter eos, qui secum multum uixerunt multumque sermocinati sunt, oriri aliquid, unde nouus quasi conflictus exsurgat. sed propter memoriam, quae infida custos est excogitatorum, referri in litteras uolui, quod inter nos saepe pertractauimus, simul ut isti adulescentes et in haec attendere discerent et aggredi ac subire temtarent.
"So I would like you to explain to me, good accuser of the Academics, your office, that is, in defense of whom you are attacking these men. For I fear that in refuting the Academics you may want to prove yourself an Academic." "You know well, I think," I said, "that there are two kinds of accusers. For if Cicero said very modestly that he was the accuser of Verres in such a way as to be the defender of the Sicilians, it does not follow that one who accuses someone must have another whom he defends." And he said: "Do you at least have anything in which your opinion has now been established?" "It is easy," I said, "for me especially to answer this question, since it is not sudden to me; I have already gone over all this with myself and turned it over in my mind long and often. So hear, Alypius, what I think you already know very well: I do not want this discussion to be undertaken for the sake of disputing. Let it be enough that we have played a prelude with these young men, in which philosophy has gladly joked with us, as it were. So let childish tales be taken from our hands. Our life, our morals, our mind are at stake: the mind that presumes it will overcome the hostility of all deceptions and, having grasped the truth and returning as it were to the region of its origin, will triumph over lusts and so, taking temperance as a wife, will reign, to return more securely to heaven. You see what I mean. Let us now remove from our midst all these weapons, 'arms to be made for a keen hero.' I have always wished nothing less than that something should arise, between those who have lived much together and talked much together, from which a new conflict, as it were, might spring. But because of memory, which is an unfaithful guardian of what has been thought out, I wanted what we have often discussed between ourselves to be put in writing, and at the same time that these young men might learn to attend to these things and try to approach and undertake them."
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Summary: Augustine explains that he attacks the Academics not for the sake of disputing but because the soul's life and return to God are at stake, and that the debate is recorded for memory and for the young men's training.
- Cicero, Against Caecilius (Divinatio in Caecilium) 5, describes himself as accuser of Verres and defender of the Sicilians. "Arms to be made for a keen hero" is Vergil, Aeneid 8.441.
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- Digital text corrected (OCR garbled minus and optaui.; OCR misread eum as cum.; OCR slip.; Words joined in the digital text.): Acadcmicorum → Academicorum; ita cum esse Uerris → ita eum esse Uerris; nec quidquam mmus semper optau. quam → nec quidquam minus semper optaui quam; quod internos saepe → quod inter nos saepe.
Extrabiblical texts: Cicero, Div. Caec. 5 (Cicero; allusion); Virgil, Aen. 8.441 (Virgil; quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 2.22 (CSEL 63:38–39; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-2-22). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.23CSEL 63:39–40
Tune ergo nescis nihil me certum adhuc habere quod sentiam, sed ab eo quaerendo Academicorum argumentis atque disputationibus impediri? nescio quo enim modo fecerunt in animo quandam probabilitatem — ut ab eorum uerbo nondum recedam — quod homo uerum inuenire non possit; unde piger et prorsus segnis effectus eram nec quaerere audebam, quod acutissimis ac doctissimis uiris inuenire non licuit. nisi ergo prius tam mihi persuasero uerum posse inueniri, quam sibi illi non posse persuaserunt, non audebo quaerere nec habeo aliquid, quod defendam. itaque istam interrogationem remoue, si placet; potius discutiamus inter nos, quam sagaciter possumus, utrumnam possit uerum inueniri. et pro parte mea uideor mihi habere iam multa, quibus contra rationem Academicorum niti molior; inter quos et me modo interim nihil distat, nisi quod illis probabile uisum est non posse inueniri ueritatem, mihi autem inueniri posse probabile est. nam ignoratio ueri aut mihi. si illi fingebant, peculiaris est aut certe utrisque communis.
"Do you not know, then, that I as yet hold nothing certain as my view, but am hindered from seeking it by the arguments and disputations of the Academics? For somehow they have produced in my mind a certain probability (not to depart yet from their word) that man cannot find the truth; and so I had become sluggish and altogether inactive, and did not dare to seek what the sharpest and most learned men were not allowed to find. So unless I first persuade myself that the truth can be found as firmly as they persuaded themselves that it cannot, I will not dare to seek, and I have nothing to defend. So put that question aside, if you please; let us rather discuss between ourselves, as shrewdly as we can, whether the truth can be found. And on my side I think I already have many things with which I am trying to strive against the reasoning of the Academics. Meanwhile there is no difference between them and me except that to them it seemed probable that the truth cannot be found, while to me it is probable that it can. For ignorance of the truth is either peculiar to me, if they were pretending, or certainly common to us both."
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Summary: Augustine admits that he holds no certain view yet and has been hindered by the Academics, differing from them only in finding it probable that the truth can be found.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Stray period inside a word.): inue.nire → inuenire.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 2.23 (CSEL 63:39–40; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-2-23). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.24CSEL 63:40–41
Tum Alypius: Iam, inquit, securus incedam; uideo enim te non tam accusatorem quam adiutorem fore. itaque ne longius abeamus, uideamus quaeso prius, ne per hanc quaestionem, in qua successisse uideor his, qui tibi cesserunt, in uerbi controuersiam decidamus, quod te ipso insinuante et auctoritate illa Tulliana turpissimum esse saepe confessi sumus. cum enim, ni fallor, Licentius placuisse sibi diceret de probabilitate Academicorum sententiam, subiecisti, quod ille haud dubie confirmauit, sciretne hanc ab eisdem etiam ueri similitudinem nominari. et bene noui, si quidem ex te mihi nota sunt, non absque te esse Academicorum placita. quae cum, ut dixi, animo tuo infixa sint, quid uerba secteris ignoro. — Non est ista, inquam, mihi crede, uerborum, sed rerum ipsarum magna controuersia; non enim eos illos uiros fuisse arbitror. qui rebus nescirent nomina imponere, sed mihi haec uocabula uidentur elegisse et ad occultandam tardioribus et ad significandam uigilantioribus sententiam suam. quod quare et quomodo mihi uideatur exponam, cum prius illa discussero, quae ab eis tamquam cognitionis humanae inimicis dicta homines putant. itaque perlibenter habeo huc usque hodie nostrum processisse sermonem, ut satis quid inter nos quaereretur aperteque constaret. nam illi mihi uidentur graues omnino ac prudentes uiri fuisse. si quid est autem, quod nunc disputabimus, aduersus eos erit, qui Academicos inuentioni ueritatis aduersos fuisse crediderunt. et ne me territum putes, etiam contra eos ipsos non inuitus armabor, si non occultandae sententiae suae causa, ne ab eis temere pollutis mentibus et quasi profanis quaedam ueritatis sacra proderentur, sed ex animo illa, quae in eorum libris legimus, defenderunt. quod hodie facerem, nisi nos solis occasus iam domum redire compelleret. — Hactenus illo die disputatum est.
Then Alypius said: "Now I will go forward without care; for I see that you will be not so much an accuser as a helper. So, not to go further, let us see first, please, that through this question, in which I seem to have taken the place of those who yielded to you, we do not fall into a dispute about words, which, at your own suggestion and on Tully's authority, we have often admitted is most shameful. For when, unless I am mistaken, Licentius said that the Academics' opinion about probability pleased him, you added the question, which he undoubtedly affirmed, whether he knew that they also called it likeness to truth. And I know well, since I learned them from you, that the tenets of the Academics are not unknown to you. Since, as I said, they are fixed in your mind, I do not know why you chase after words." "This is not, believe me," I said, "a controversy about words, but a great one about the things themselves. For I do not think they were men who did not know how to give names to things; rather, they seem to me to have chosen these terms both to hide their opinion from the slower and to signify it to the more alert. Why and how it seems so to me I will explain when I have first discussed what people think they said as enemies of human knowledge. So I am very glad that our conversation has gone so far today that it is clear and settled enough what we are inquiring into between us. For they seem to me to have been altogether serious and prudent men. If there is anything we shall now dispute, it will be against those who have believed that the Academics were opposed to the finding of truth. And so that you do not think me frightened, I will arm myself not unwillingly even against them, if they defended in earnest what we read in their books, and not in order to hide their opinion, so that certain sacred things of truth might not be rashly betrayed by them to polluted and, as it were, profane minds. This I would do today, if the setting of the sun were not now compelling us to return home." So far the discussion went that day.
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Summary: Alypius warns against a dispute about words, and Augustine replies that the Academics chose their terms deliberately, perhaps to hide their real opinion from the unworthy, and that he will argue against those who think them enemies of truth.
- "Tully" is Cicero (Marcus Tullius Cicero).
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 2.24 (CSEL 63:40–41; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-2-24). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.25CSEL 63:41
Postridie autem, quamuis non minus blandus tranquillusque dies inluxisset, uix tamen domesticis negotiis euoluti sumus. nam magnam eius partem in epistolarum maxime scriptione consumseramus et, cum iam duae horae uix reliquae forent, ad pratum processimus. nam inuitabat caeli nimia serenitas placuitque, ut ne ipsum quidem quod restiterat tempus perire pateremur. itaque cum ad arborem solitam uentum esset et mansissemus loco:Uelim uos, inquam, adulescentuli, quoniam non est hodie magna res aggredienda, in memoriam mihi reuocetis, quomodo hesterno die rogatiunculae, quae uos turbauit, Alypius responderit. — Hic Licentius: Tam breue est, inquit, ut nihil negotii sit hoc recordari; quam leue sit autem, tu uideris. nam, ut opinor, uetuit te, res cum constaret, de uerbis mouere quaestionem. — Et ego: Hoc ipsum, inquam, quid sit quamue habeat uim, satis animaduertistis? — Uideor, inquit, mihi uidere quid sit; sed quaeso tu id paulisper exponas. nam saepe abs te audiui turpe esse disputantibus in uerborum quaestione inmorari, cum certamen nullum de rebus remanserit. sed hoc subtilius est, quam ut explicandum a me debeat flagitari.
The next day, although a day no less mild and calm had dawned, we were barely disentangled from household business. For we had spent a great part of it chiefly in writing letters, and when hardly two hours remained, we went out to the meadow. The very great clearness of the sky invited us, and we decided not to let even the time that remained be lost. So when we had come to our usual tree and settled there, I said: "Young men, since no great matter is to be undertaken today, I would like you to recall to me how Alypius answered yesterday the little question that troubled you." Here Licentius said: "It is so short that it is no trouble to remember; how light it is, you must judge. For, I think, he forbade you, since the matter was agreed, to raise a question about words." And I said: "Have you noticed well enough what this itself is, and what force it has?" "I think I see what it is," he said; "but please explain it a little. For I have often heard you say that it is shameful for disputants to linger over a question of words when no contest remains about things. But this is too subtle to be demanded of me to explain."
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Summary: On the next day, after household business, the friends resume, and Augustine asks the young men what Alypius meant by forbidding a dispute about words.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 2.25 (CSEL 63:41; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-2-25). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.26CSEL 63:41–42
Audite ergo, inquam, quid sit, uos. id probabile uel ueri simile Academici uocant, quod nos ad agendum sine adsensione potest inuitare. sine adsensione autem dico, ut id quod agimus non opinemur uerum esse aut non id scire arbitremur, agamus tamen: ut uerbi causa, utrum hesterna nocte tam liquida ac pura hodie tam laetus sol exorturus esset, si nos quispiam rogaret. credo, quod nos id scire negaremus, diceremus tamen ita uideri. talia. inquit Academicus, mihi uidentur omnia, quae probabilia uel ueri similia putaui nominanda; quae tu si alio nomine uis uocare, nihil pugno. satis enim mihi est te iam bene accepisse, quid dicam, id est quibus rebus haec nomina inponam. non enim uocabulorum opificem. sed rerum inquisitorem decet esse sapientem. satisne intellexistis, quomodo mihi ludicra illa, quibus uos agitabam, de manibus excussa sint? — Hic cum ambo se intellexisse respondissent uultuque ipso responsionem postularent meam: Quid putatis, inquam, Ciceronem, cuius haec uerba sunt, inopem fuisse latinae linguae, ut minus apta rebus, quas sentiebat, nomina imponeret?
"Listen, then," I said, "to what it is. The Academics call probable or like the truth that which can invite us to act without assent. I say 'without assent' in the sense that we do not hold what we do to be true, or think we know it, and yet we act; as, for example, if someone asked us whether after so clear and pure a night last night so bright a sun would rise today, we would say, I believe, that we did not know, but that it seemed so. 'Such,' says the Academic, 'seem to me all the things that I thought should be called probable or like the truth; if you want to call them by another name, I do not fight. For it is enough for me that you have now well understood what I mean, that is, to what things I give these names. For it befits the wise man to be not a manufacturer of words but an investigator of things.' Do you understand well enough how those toys with which I was harassing you were struck from my hands?" Here, when both had answered that they understood and were asking for my answer by their very faces, I said: "Do you think that Cicero, whose words these are, was so poor in the Latin language that he gave names less suited to the things he meant?"
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Summary: Augustine explains the Academic sense of the probable as what invites action without assent, and asks whether Cicero would really have chosen unsuitable names.
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- Digital text corrected (OCR slip.): sc intellexisse → se intellexisse.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 2.26 (CSEL 63:41–42; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-2-26). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.27CSEL 63:42–43
Tum Trygetius: Iam, inquit, placet nobis, cum res nota sit, de uerbis nullas calumnias commouere. quare uide potius, quid huic respondeas, qui nos liberauit, in quos tu impulsus temtas iterum inruere. — Et Licentius: Mane, ait, quaeso; nam mihi sublucet nescio quid, quod uideam non tibi tam facile tantum argumentum eripi debuisse. et cum defixus in cogitatione siluisset aliquantum: Rogo, inquit, nihil esse uidetur absurdius quam dicere se ueri simile sequi eum, qui uerum quid sit ignoret; nec illa me tua similitudo conturbat. nam recte ego interrogatus, utrum ex ista temperie caeli nulla in crastinum pluuia cogatur, respondeo esse ueri simile. qui me non nego nosse aliquid ueri. nam scio arborem istam modo argenteam fieri non posse multaque talia uere non inpudenter me scire dico, quorum uideo esse similia ea, quae ueri similia nomino. tu uero, Carneades, uel quae alia Graeca pestis, ut nostris parcam — quid enim dubitem in hanc partem transire ad eum, cui captiuus debeor iure uictoriae? — tu ergo, cum te nihil ueri scire dicas, unde hoc ueri simile sequeris? at enim non ei potui aliud nomen inponere. quid ergo nobis disputandum est cum eo, qui nec loqui potest?
Then Trygetius said: "We are now content not to raise quibbles about words, since the thing is known. So consider rather what to answer this man who freed us, against whom you, driven on, are trying to rush again." And Licentius said: "Wait, please; for something is dawning on me, so that I see that so strong an argument ought not to have been snatched from you so easily." And when he had been silent a while, fixed in thought, he said: "I ask: nothing seems more absurd than for one who does not know what the truth is to say that he follows what is like the truth. Nor does that comparison of yours disturb me. For if I am asked whether, from this mildness of the sky, no rain will gather tomorrow, I rightly answer that it is like the truth, since I do not deny that I know something true. For I know that this tree cannot suddenly become silver, and I say without shamelessness that I truly know many such things, to which I see that the things I call like the truth are similar. But you, Carneades, or whatever other Greek plague (to spare our own) - for why should I hesitate to cross over to this side, to him to whom I am owed as a captive by right of victory? - you, then, since you say you know nothing true, from what do you follow this 'like the truth'? 'But I could not give it another name.' Why then should we dispute with one who cannot even speak?"
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Summary: Licentius, crossing to Augustine's side, argues that he can call things truthlike because he knows some truths, whereas Carneades, who claims to know nothing true, cannot.
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- Digital text corrected (OCR misread I as l.; OCR misread eum as cum.; OCR misread in as digits.; OCR misread non as digits.; OCR misread s as a stray mark.; OCR slip.): lam, inquit → Iam, inquit; nulla.- calumnias → nullas calumnias; cripi → eripi; defixus 111 cogitatione → defixus in cogitatione; qui me 11011 nego → qui me non nego; transire ad cum → transire ad eum.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 2.27 (CSEL 63:42–43; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-2-27). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.28CSEL 63:43
Non ego, inquit Alypius. perfugas metuam; quanto minus ille Carneades, in quem nescio utrum iuuenali an puerili leuitate commotus maledicta potius quam aliquod telum putasti esse iaciendum. nam illi quidem ad roborandam sententiam suam, quae semper tenus probabili fundata fuit, hoc interim aduersum te facile suffecerit. ita nos a ueri inuentione procul esse positos. ut tu tibi ipse magno argumento esse possis. qui ita una interrogatiuncula loco motus es. ut ubi tibi standum esset penitus ignorares. sed haec atque scientiam tuam, quam tibi inpressam de hac arbore paulo ante confessus es, in aliud tempus differamus. quamuis enim iam alias partes delegeris, tamen sedulo docendus es, quid paulo ante dixerim. nondum. ut opinor. in eam quaestionem, qua utrum inueniri uerum possit quaeritur, progressi fueramus, sed illud tantum in ipso uestibulo defensionis meae praescribendum putaui. in quo te lassum prostratumque prospexeram, hoc est utrum ueri simile an probabile an alio si quo nomine appellari potest, quod sibi Academici sat esse dicant, quaerendum non esse nam si tu optimus iam inuentor ueritatis tibi uideris, nihil ad me. postea si ingratus non fueris huic patrocinio meo, eadem fortasse me docebis.
"I am not one to fear deserters," said Alypius; "how much less would that Carneades, against whom, moved by I do not know whether youthful or childish levity, you thought you should hurl insults rather than any weapon. For him, to strengthen his opinion, which was always founded only on the probable, this will easily suffice against you for the time being: that we are placed so far from finding the truth that you yourself can be a great proof of it, since you were so moved from your position by one little question that you did not know at all where you should stand. But let us put off these things, and the knowledge you confessed a little while ago is impressed on you concerning this tree, to another time. For although you have now chosen the other side, you must still be carefully taught what I said a little earlier. We had not yet advanced, I think, to the question in which it is asked whether the truth can be found; I thought only this should be laid down in the very entrance of my defense, where I had seen you weary and overthrown: that it is not to be inquired whether what the Academics say is enough for them should be called truthlike or probable or by any other name it can have. For if you think yourself already an excellent finder of the truth, that is nothing to me. Later, if you are not ungrateful for this advocacy of mine, you will perhaps teach me the same things."
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Summary: Alypius replies that Licentius's quick change of side only proves how far men are from finding the truth, and repeats that the name given to the Academics' probable is not in question.
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- Digital text corrected (Words joined and stray period in the digital text.): Nonego. inquit → Non ego, inquit.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 2.28 (CSEL 63:43; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-2-28). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.29CSEL 63:43–44
Hic ego, cum uerecunde Licentius Alypii impetum formidaret: Omnia potius. inquam, Alypi, loqui maluisti quam quem ad modum nobis cum his, qui loqui nesciant, disputandum sit. — Et ille: Quoniam olim cum mihi tum omnibus notum est et nunc tua professione satis indicas te loquendi peritum esse, uelim explices utilitatem primo huius inquisitionis suae. quae aut superflua est, ut opinor, et ei multo magis respondere superfluum est aut, si commoda uisa fuerit et a me explicari nequiuerit, precario abs te impetrem, ut magistri officium ne grauere. — Meministi, inquam, heri me esse pollicitum de istis uocabulis post acturum. et nunc ille sol admonet, ut quae ludicra pueris proposui redigam in cistas, praesertim cum ea ornandi iam potius quam uendendi gratia proponam. nunc antequam stilum nostrum tenebrae occupent, quae patronae Academicorum solent esse, uolo inter nos hodie plenissime constet, ad quam quaestionem nobis explicandam mane surgendum sit. itaque responde quaeso, utrum tibi uideantur Academici habuisse certam de ueritate sententiam et eam temere ignotis uel non purgatis animis prodere noluisse, an uero ita senserint, ut eorum se disputationes habent.
Here, as Licentius bashfully feared Alypius's attack, I said: "Alypius, you preferred to speak about everything rather than about how we should dispute with those who do not know how to speak." And he said: "Since it has long been known to me and to everyone, and you now sufficiently show by your profession, that you are skilled in speaking, I would like you first to explain the usefulness of this inquiry of yours. Either it is superfluous, as I think, and it is far more superfluous to answer it; or, if it seems useful and I cannot explain it, I would beg you not to mind the office of teacher." "You remember," I said, "that yesterday I promised to deal with those terms later. And now that sun warns me to put back into their boxes the toys I set out for the boys, especially since I now set them out for display rather than for sale. Now, before the darkness, which is usually the patron of the Academics, takes over our pen, I want it to be fully settled between us today what question we must rise early to explain. So answer, please: do the Academics seem to you to have held a certain opinion about the truth and to have been unwilling to reveal it rashly to unknown or unpurified minds, or did they really think as their disputations show?"
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Summary: Augustine asks Alypius to say whether the Academics secretly held a definite view of the truth or really believed what their arguments state.
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- Digital text corrected (OCR slip.): nune tua → nunc tua.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 2.29 (CSEL 63:43–44; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-2-29). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.30CSEL 63:44–45
Tum ille: Quid illis animi fuerit, inquit, non temere confirmabo. nam quantum ex libris colligi datur, tu melius nosti, quae in uerba sententiam suam promere soleant; me autem de me ipso si consulis, inuentum nondum esse uerum puto. addo etiam, quod de Academicis flagitabas, nec posse inueniri me putare non solum inolita quam semper fere animaduertisti opinione mea sed etiam auctoritate magnorum excellentiorumque philosophorum, quibus nos praebere colla siue inbecillitas nostra siue sagacitas ipsorum, ultra quam nihil iam inueniri posse credendum est, nescio quo modo compellit. — Hoc est, inquam, quod uolui. nam uerebar, ne, cum tibi quoque id uideretur quod mihi, disputatio nostra manca remaneret nullo existente, qui ex altera parte rem uenire in manus cogeret, ut diligenter quantum possumus uersaretur. itaque si id euenisset, paratus eram te rogare, ut Academicorum partes ita susciperes, quasi tibi non solum disputasse sed etiam sensisse uiderentur uerum non posse comprehendi. quaeritur ergo inter nos, utrum illorum argumentis probabile sit nihil percipi posse ac nulli rei esse assentiendum. quod si optinueris, cedam libenter; si autem demonstrare potuero multo esse probabilius et posse ad ueritatem peruenire sapientem et adsensionem non semper esse cohibendam, nihil habebis, ut opinor, cur non te in meam sententiam transire patiaris. — Quod cum illi placuisset et eis qui aderant. iam uespere obumbrati domum reuertimus.
Then he said: "What their mind was I will not rashly affirm. As far as can be gathered from books, you know better in what words they used to express their opinion. But if you consult me about myself, I think the truth has not yet been found. I add also, what you were demanding about the Academics, that I think it cannot be found, not only from my ingrained opinion, which you have almost always noticed, but also from the authority of great and very excellent philosophers, to whom somehow either our weakness or their sagacity, beyond which it must be believed nothing more can be found, compels us to bow our necks." "This is what I wanted," I said. "For I was afraid that, if you also thought what I think, our discussion would remain maimed, with no one on the other side to force the matter to come to grips, so that it might be turned over as diligently as we can. So if that had happened, I was ready to ask you to take up the part of the Academics as if they seemed to you not only to have argued but also to have believed that the truth cannot be grasped. The question between us, then, is whether by their arguments it is probable that nothing can be perceived and that one should assent to nothing. If you win this, I will gladly yield; but if I can show that it is much more probable both that the wise man can reach the truth and that assent is not always to be withheld, you will have no reason, I think, not to let yourself cross over to my opinion." When this had pleased him and those present, we returned home, now overshadowed by evening.
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Summary: Alypius declares that he believes the truth cannot be found, and the question for the next debate is fixed: whether it is probable by the Academics' arguments that nothing can be perceived and no assent given.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 2.30 (CSEL 63:44–45; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-2-30). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 3
3.1CSEL 63:45–46
Cum post illum sermonem, quem secundus liber continet, alio die consedissemus in balneis — nam erat tristior, quam ut ad pratum liberet descendere — sic exorsus sum: Arbitror uos iam satis animo aduertisse, qua de re inter nos discutienda quaestio constituta sit. sed antequam ad partes meas ueniam, quae ad eam pertinent explicandam, pauca quaeso de spe de uita de instituto nostro non ab re abhorrentia libenter audiatis. negotium nostrum non leue aut superfluum, sed necessarium ac summum esse arbitror, magno opere quaerere ueritatem. hoc inter me atque Alypium conuenit. nam et ceteri philosophi sapientem suum eam inuenisse putauerunt et Academici sapienti suo summo conatu inueniendam esse professi sunt idque illum agere sedulo, sed quoniam uel lateret obruta uel confusa non emineret, ad agendam uitam id eum sequi, quod probabile ac ueri simile occurreret. id etiam uestra pristina disceptatione confectum est. nam cum alter inuenta ueritate beatum fieri asseruerit hominem, alter uero tantum diligenter quaesita, nulli nostrum dubium est nihil esse a nobis huic negotio praeponendum. quam ob rem qualem uobis quaeso hesternum diem uidemur duxisse? uobis quidem in studiis uestris uiuere licuit. nam et tu, Trygeti, Uergilii te carminibus oblectasti et Licentius fingendis uersibus uacauit, quorum amore ita perculsus est, ut propter eum maxime mihi istum sermonem inferendum putarem, quo in eius animo philosophia — nunc enim tempus est — maiorem partem non modo quam poetica sed quaeuis alia disciplina sibi usurpet ac uindicet.
When, after that conversation which the second book contains, we had sat down on another day in the baths (for the day was too gloomy for us to want to go down to the meadow), I began thus: "I think you have already noticed well enough what the question is that has been set for discussion between us. But before I come to my part, which concerns explaining it, please listen willingly to a few things about our hope, our life, and our purpose, not unrelated to the matter. I think our business is not light or superfluous, but necessary and supreme: to seek the truth with great effort. On this Alypius and I agree. For the other philosophers thought that their wise man had found it, and the Academics professed that their wise man must seek it with the greatest effort and that he does this diligently, but that, since it either lay hidden and buried or did not stand out because it was confused, he follows for the conduct of life what appears probable and like the truth. This was also established in your earlier debate. For since one of you asserted that a man becomes happy by finding the truth, the other merely by seeking it diligently, none of us doubts that nothing should be put by us before this business. So what sort of day, I ask, do you think we spent yesterday? You were allowed to live in your studies. For you, Trygetius, delighted yourself with Vergil's poems, and Licentius was free for composing verses, by love of which he is so struck that it was chiefly on his account that I thought this discourse should be brought in, so that in his mind philosophy (for now is the time) may claim and take for herself a greater part not only than poetry but than any other discipline."
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Summary: Opening the third book in the baths, Augustine reaffirms that seeking the truth is the supreme task and wishes philosophy to take precedence over poetry in Licentius's mind.
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- Digital text corrected (OCR misread eum as cum.; OCR misread s as a section mark.): §edulo → sedulo; propter cum maxime → propter eum maxime.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 3.1 (CSEL 63:45–46; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-3-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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3.2CSEL 63:46
Sed quaeso uos, nonne miserati nos estis, cum pridie ita cubitum issemus, ut ad dilatam quaestionem et prorsus ad nihil aliud surgeretur, quod tanta de re familiari necessario peragenda extiterunt, ut his penitus occupati uix duas extremas diei horas in nosmet ipsos respirare possemus? quare semper fuit sententia mea sapienti iam homini nihil opus esse; ut autem sapiens fiat, plurimum necessariam esse fortunam, nisi quid aliud uidetur Alypio. — Tum ille: Quantum iuris, inquit, fortunae tribuas, nondum bene noui. nam si ad contemnendam fortunam fortuna ipsa opus esse arbitraris, me quoque comitem in hanc sententiam do tibi. sin fortunae nihil aliud concedis quam ea, quae corporis necessitati non possunt nisi ipsa uolente suppetere, non ita sentio. aut enim licet eadem repugnante atque inuita nondum sapienti, cupido tamen sapientiae ea sumere, quae uitae necessaria confitemur, aut concedendum etiam in omni sapientis uita eam dominari, cum et ipse sapiens his, quae corpori necessaria sunt, non indigere non possit.
"But tell me, did you not pity us, when the day before we had gone to bed intending to rise for the postponed question and for nothing else, because so many household matters that had to be dealt with arose that, wholly occupied with them, we could barely breathe for ourselves in the last two hours of the day? Hence it has always been my opinion that the man already wise needs nothing, but that for one to become wise fortune is very necessary; unless Alypius thinks otherwise." Then he said: "How much power you give fortune I do not yet well know. For if you think that fortune itself is needed for despising fortune, I too give myself as your companion in that opinion. But if you grant to fortune nothing but those things that cannot be supplied to the body's need except by her will, I do not think so. For either one not yet wise, but desirous of wisdom, may take the things we admit are necessary for life even when she resists and is unwilling, or it must be granted that she rules even in the whole life of the wise man, since the wise man himself cannot fail to need the things necessary to the body."
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Summary: Augustine says that the wise man needs nothing but that fortune is needed to become wise, and Alypius questions how much power is given to fortune.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 3.2 (CSEL 63:46; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-3-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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3.3CSEL 63:46–47
Dicis ergo, inquam, fortunam esse necessariam studioso sapientiae, sapienti uero negas. — Non ab re est eadem repetere, inquit. itaque nunc etiam abs te quaero, utrum fortunam ad se ipsam contemnendam aliquid iuuare aestimes. quod si arbitraris, dico sapientiae cupidum magnopere indigere fortuna. — Arbitror, inquam, si quidem per illam erit talis, qualis eam possit contemnere. nec absurdum est; nam sic etiam paruis nobis ubera necessaria sunt, quibus efficitur, ut sine his postea uiuere ac ualere possimus. — Sententias, ait, nostras, si animi conceptio non dissonat, concordare mihi liquet, nisi forte disserendum cuiquam uidetur, quod fortunae uel uberum non ipsa ubera seu fortuna, sed alia res quaedam nos faciat contemtores. —Nihil magnum est, inquam, alio simili uti. nam ut sine naui uel quolibet uehiculo aut omnino, ne uel ipsum Daedalum timeam, sine ullis ad hanc rem accommodatis instrumentis aut aliqua occultiore potentia Aegeum mare nemo transmittit, quamuis nihil aliud quam peruenire proponat, quod cum ei euenerit, illa omnia, quibus aduectus est, paratus sit abicere atque contemnere, ita quisquis ad sapientiae portum et quasi firmissimum et quietissimum solum peruenire uoluerit — quoniam, ut alia omittam, si caecus ac surdus fuerit, non potest, quod positum est in potestate fortunae — necessariam mihi uidetur ad id quod concupiuit habere fortunam. quod cum obtinuerit, quamuis putetur indigere quibusdam rebus ad corporis ualitudinem pertinentibus, illud tamen constat, non his opus esse, ut sapiens sit, sed ut inter homines uiuat. — Immo, ait ille, si caecus ac surdus sit, et sapientiam adipiscendam et ipsam uitam, propter quam sapientia quaeritur, mea sententia iure contemnet.
"So you say," I said, "that fortune is necessary for the one devoted to wisdom, but you deny it for the wise man." "It is not out of place to repeat the same things," he said. "So now I also ask you whether you think fortune helps at all toward despising itself. If you think so, I say that one who desires wisdom greatly needs fortune." "I think so," I said, "if through her he will become such that he can despise her. Nor is this absurd; for so too, when we are small, breasts are necessary for us, by which it comes about that later we can live and be strong without them." "Our opinions," he said, "clearly agree, if our minds' conception does not differ; unless perhaps someone thinks it should be argued that it is not breasts or fortune themselves but something else that makes us despisers of fortune or of breasts." "It is no great matter," I said, "to use another comparison. For just as no one crosses the Aegean Sea without a ship or some vehicle, or at all (not to fear Daedalus himself) without some instruments suited to this, or some more hidden power, although he intends nothing but to arrive, and when he has arrived he is ready to throw away and despise all the things by which he was carried, so whoever wants to reach the harbor of wisdom, as it were the firmest and quietest ground, seems to me to need fortune to have what he desired (since, to omit other things, if he is blind and deaf he cannot, and this lies in the power of fortune). When he has obtained it, although he may be thought to need certain things pertaining to the health of the body, it is clear that he needs them not in order to be wise but in order to live among men." "On the contrary," he said, "if he is blind and deaf, in my opinion he will rightly despise both the attaining of wisdom and life itself, for whose sake wisdom is sought."
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Summary: Augustine compares fortune to the ship needed to cross the sea to the harbor of wisdom, which the wise man can then despise; Alypius objects that one blind and deaf would despise both wisdom and life.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 3.3 (CSEL 63:46–47; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-3-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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3.4CSEL 63:47–48
Tamen, inquam, cum ipsa uita nostra, cum hic uiuimus, sit in potestate fortunae nec nisi uiuens quisque sapiens fieri possit, nonne fatendum est opus esse eius fauore, quo ad sapientiam peruehamur? — Sed cum sapientia, inquit, non nisi uiuentibus necessaria sit remotaque uita nulla sit indigentia sapientiae, nihil in propaganda uita pertimesco fortunam. etenim quia uiuo, propterea uolo sapientiam, non quod sapientiam desidero, uolo uitam. unde fortuna si mihi abstulerit uitam, auferet causam quaerendae sapientiae. nihil igitur habeo, cur ut fiam sapiens aut fauorem optem fortunae aut impedimenta formidem, nisi alia fortasse protuleris. — Tum ego: Non igitur censes sapientiae studiosum posse fortuna, ne ad sapientiam perueniat, impediri, etiamsi ei non auferat uitam? — Non arbitror, inquit.
"Still," I said, "since our life itself, while we live here, is in the power of fortune, and no one can become wise except while living, must it not be admitted that we need her favor to be carried to wisdom?" "But since wisdom," he said, "is necessary only for the living, and when life is removed there is no need of wisdom, I have no fear of fortune in prolonging life. For I want wisdom because I live; I do not want life because I desire wisdom. So if fortune takes away my life, she will take away the reason for seeking wisdom. I have no reason, then, either to wish for fortune's favor or to dread her obstacles in order to become wise, unless perhaps you bring forward other arguments." Then I said: "So you do not think that one devoted to wisdom can be hindered by fortune from reaching wisdom, even if she does not take away his life?" "I do not think so," he said.
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Summary: Alypius argues that he seeks wisdom because he lives, so fortune's power over life gives him no cause to fear her in his pursuit of wisdom.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Acad. 3.4 (CSEL 63:47–48; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-academicos/2-14/#p-3-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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