Against Faustus the Manichaean 13.3–13.15
Latin text: Zycha, CSEL 25.1 (Latin text: Joseph Zycha, Contra Faustum Manichaeum (CSEL 25.1, 1891), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: NPNF 1/4: Reply to Faustus the Manichaean (Philip Schaff, ed., 1887).
Chapter 13
13.3CSEL 25.1:379–381
Displicet uobis talis Christus, qualis per Hebraeos praenuntiatus est; et tamen omnes populi gentium, apud quos Hebraeam prophetiam nullum pondus auctoritatis habere arbitramini. in talem Christum credunt, qualis per Hebraeos praenuntiatus est, accipiendo scilicet euangelium, quod deus ante promiserat, sicut apostolus commemorat, per prophetas suos in scripturis sanctis de filio suo, qui factus est ei ex semine Dauid secundum carnem. unde propheta Esaias dicit: erit radix Iesse, qui exsurget regnare in gentibus; in eum gentes sperabunt, et: ecce uirgo concipiet et pariet filium, et uocabunt nomen eius Emmanuhel. quod interpretatur: nobiscum deus. ne putent isti hominem tantummodo Christum ab Hebraeis prophetis praenuntiatum; hoc enim uidetur tetigisse Faustus. cum ait Christum quidem nostrum filium dei. quasi Hebraei Christum suum non filium dei dicerent. ecce nos ostendimus deum Christum uirginis filium ex Hebraea prophetia. nam utique et Iudaei carnales ne hoc solum putarent esse Christum. quod propter nos factus est homo ex semine Dauid, admonet eos ipse dominus ex prophetia eiusdem Dauid quaerens ab eis, quid eis uideretur de Christo. cuius eum esse dicerent filium. qui cum respondissent: Dauid, ne hoc solum, ut dixi. putaretur et non respicerent ad Emmanuhel, quod est interpretatum "nobiscum deus," et: quomodo, inquit. ipse Dauid in spiritu dicit eum dominum: dixit dominus domino meo, sede ad dexteram meam. donec ponam inimicos tuos scabellum pedum tuorum? ecce inquam nos ostendimus Hebraea prophetia Christum deum; uos ostendite aliquam prophetiam uestram. unde nomen Christi didiceritis.
A Christ such as was foretold by the Hebrews displeases you; and yet all the peoples of the Gentiles, among whom you think Hebrew prophecy has no weight of authority, believe in such a Christ as was foretold by the Hebrews, receiving, that is, the gospel which God had promised beforehand, as the apostle records, through his prophets in the holy scriptures concerning his Son, who was made for him from the seed of David according to the flesh. Hence the prophet Isaiah says: “There shall be the root of Jesse, who shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him the Gentiles shall hope,” and: “Behold, a virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel,” which is interpreted, “God with us.” Let these men not think that Christ was foretold by the Hebrew prophets only as a man; for Faustus seems to have touched on this when he says, “our Christ, the Son of God,” as if the Hebrews did not call their Christ the Son of God. See, we show from Hebrew prophecy that Christ, the son of the virgin, is God. For indeed, so that the carnal Jews too should not think that Christ was only this, that for our sake he was made man from the seed of David, the Lord himself admonishes them from the prophecy of that same David, asking them what they thought of the Christ, whose son they said he was. When they answered, “David's,” then, so that this alone should not be thought, as I said, and they should not fail to look to Emmanuel, which is interpreted “God with us,” he said: “How then does David himself in the Spirit call him Lord: ‘The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies the footstool of your feet’?” See, I say, we show from Hebrew prophecy that Christ is God; you show some prophecy of yours from which you learned the name of Christ.
Rom 1:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 11:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 15:12 (quotation, medium confidence) · Isa 7:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 1:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 22:42 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 22:43 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 22:44 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 110:1 (109:1 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine shows from Isaiah and Psalm 110, as used by Jesus, that Hebrew prophecy foretold Christ as God and not only as man.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (joined words; stray marks): de'" Christo → de Christo; pedumtuorum?ecceinquamnos → pedum tuorum? ecce inquam nos.
Topics: Christology, Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 13.3 (CSEL 25.1:379–381; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/13-3/#p-13-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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13.4CSEL 25.1:381–382
Manichaeus enim uester non fuit propheta uenturi Christi: apostolum quippe eius se dicit inpudentissima quidem fallacia; nam constat non solum post Tertullianum, uerum etiam post Cyprianum hanc haeresim exortam. omnes tamen eius epistulae ita exordiuntur: Manichaeus apostolus Iesu Christi. huic uos de Christo quare credidistis? quemnam testem uobis sui apostolatus adduxit? nomenque ipsum Christi, quod non scimus nisi in regno Iudaeorum in sacerdotibus et regibus institutum. ut non solum ille aut ille homo, sed uniuersa ipsa gens totumque regnum propheta fieret Christi christianique regni. cur iste inuasit, cur usurpauit. qui prophetis Hebraeis uos uetat credere, ut uos falsi Christi fallaces discipulos falsus et fallax apostolus faciat? postremo ne diceretur ei "mentiris," protulerit uobis aliquos et prophetas secundum adsertionem suam Christum praenuntiantes. quid facietis ei. qualem Faustus catechizandum sub exemplo proposuit, qui neque ipsis neque illi credere uoluerit? an apostolos nostros pro se testes uocabit? non, opinor, homines producet. sed libros aperiet: quos non pro se. sed contra se apertos reperiet. ibi enim Christum natum ex Maria uirgine. ibi filium dei factum ex semine Dauid secundum carnem legimus et docemus. quod si eos infalsatos dixerit, ipse testium suorum fidem obpugnabit; si autem alios, quos dicat apostolorum nostrorum. codices protulerit, quomodo eis ipse auctoritatem dabit, quam per ecclesias Christi ab ipsis apostolis constitutas non accepit. ut inde ad posteros firmata commendatione transcurreret? quomodo ille, cui non credo, profert mihi scripturas. quibus de illo credam. et eis ipse conatur dare auctoritatem, cum ego ipsi non credam?
For your Mani was not a prophet of a Christ to come: he calls himself his apostle, with a most shameless falsehood indeed; for it is established that this heresy arose not only after Tertullian but even after Cyprian. Yet all his letters begin thus: “Mani, an apostle of Jesus Christ.” Why did you believe him about Christ? What witness of his apostleship did he bring you? And the very name of Christ, which we know only as instituted in the kingdom of the Jews, in priests and kings, so that not only this or that man but the whole nation itself and the entire kingdom became a prophecy of Christ and of the Christian kingdom: why did this man seize it, why did he usurp it, he who forbids you to believe the Hebrew prophets, so that a false and deceitful apostle might make you deceitful disciples of a false Christ? Finally, so that no one should say to him, “You lie,” suppose he had produced for you some prophets who, by his account, foretold Christ: what will you do with someone like the man Faustus proposed as an example for instruction, who would believe neither them nor him? Or will he call our apostles as witnesses for himself? He will not, I think, produce men, but he will open books; and he will find them opened not for him but against him. For there we read and teach that Christ was born of the virgin Mary, there that the Son of God was made from the seed of David according to the flesh. If he says these books have been falsified, he will be attacking the credibility of his own witnesses; but if he produces other manuscripts which he claims are our apostles', how will he himself give them an authority which he did not receive through the churches of Christ founded by the apostles themselves, so that it might pass on from there to later generations with a firm commendation? How does a man whom I do not believe bring me scriptures through which I am to believe about him, and himself try to give them authority, when I do not believe him?
Rom 1:3 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine asks on what authority the Manichaeans believe Mani, a late self-styled apostle, and notes that the apostles' books speak against him.
- Mani's letters are known to have opened “Mani, an apostle of Jesus Christ.”
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray mark): uos - uetat → uos uetat.
Topics: Heresy, Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 13.4 (CSEL 25.1:381–382; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/13-3/#p-13-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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13.5CSEL 25.1:382–383
Si autem famae de Christo credidistis — hoc enim et Faustus magnis angustiis coartatus transeunter adtigit, ne scilicet aut eos libros proferre cogeretur, quorum auctoritas nulla est, aut ad eos ligaretur, quorum auctoritas ei contraria est - ergo si de Christo famae credidistis, uidete utrum idonea testis sit, diligenter considerate. quo uos praecipitetis. mala enim multa de uobis fama disseminat, cui credi non uultis. quae igitur ratio est hanc de Christo uelle ueracem. quam de uobis uultis esse mendacem? quid? quod etiam famae Christi contradicitis. ea quippe clarior, ea praepollentior, aures et mentes et linguas omnium gentium tenet, quae Christo ex semine Dauid secundum scripturas Hebraeas disseminato inplet, quod ibi scriptum est promissum Abrahae et Isaac et Iacob. in semine tuo benedicentur omnes gentes. quid ergo respondetis, cuinam de Christo credideritis, quibus testes alienigenae non placent? nostrorum porro librorum auctoritas tot gentium consensione per successiones apostolorum, episcoporum conciliorumque roborata uobis aduersa est; uestrorum autem nulla est, quia et a tam paucis profertur et ab eis, qui deum et Christum mendacem colunt. unde contra eorum mendacem doctrinam fit, nisi et ipsi tamquam imitatores dei et Christi sui mendaces habeantur. fama uero etiam ipsa consulta et uos pessimos iactat et Christum ex semine Dauid contra uos praedicare non cessat. uocem patris de caelo non audistis, opera Christi, quibus de se ipso testificabatur, non uidistis; codices, in quibus haec scripta sunt, ut specie christiana fallatis, uelut accipitis; ne tamen contra uos legantur, infalsatos dicitis. profertis inde Christum dicentem: si mihi non creditis, operibus credite, et: ego sum, qui testimonium perhibeo de me, et testimonium perhibet de me, qui me misit pater, et non uultis contra uos inde proferri: scrutamini scripturas, in quibus putatis uos uitam aeternam habere, ipsae testimonium perhibent de me, et: si crederetis Moysi. crederetis et mihi; de me enim ille scripsit, et: habent ibi Moysen et prophetas, audiant eos, et: si Moysen et prophetas non audiunt, nec si quis a mortuis resurrexerit, credent ei! unde huc existis? unde confiditis? scripturas tanta auctoritate firmatas commendatasque respuitis, miracula non facitis: quae si faceretis. etiam ipsa in uobis caueremus praeinstruente nos domino et dicente: exurgent multi pseudochristi et pseudoprophetae et facient signa et prodigia multa, ut fallant, si fieri potest, etiam electos; ecce praedixi uobis. usque adeo nihil credi uoluit aduersus confirmatam scripturarum auctoritatem, quae fidem suam rebus ipsis probat, quae per temporum successiones haec inpleri et effici ostendit, quae tanto antequam fierent, praenuntiauit.
But if you believed report about Christ (for Faustus, hemmed in by great difficulties, touched on this too in passing, so as not to be forced either to produce those books which have no authority, or to be bound to those whose authority is against him), if, then, you believed report about Christ, see whether it is a fit witness; consider carefully where you are throwing yourselves. For report spreads many evil things about you, which you do not want believed. What reason is there, then, to want report to be truthful about Christ, when you want it to be lying about you? What of the fact that you even contradict the report of Christ? For the report that is clearer and more powerful, that holds the ears and minds and tongues of all nations, is the one which, as Christ from the seed of David is spread abroad according to the Hebrew scriptures, fulfils what is written there as promised to Abraham and Isaac and Jacob: “In your seed all nations shall be blessed.” What then do you answer: whom did you believe about Christ, you who do not like foreign witnesses? Moreover, the authority of our books, strengthened by the agreement of so many nations through the successions of apostles, bishops and councils, is against you; while yours has none, since it is put forward by so few, and by those who worship a lying God and Christ. Hence it tells against their own lying doctrine, unless they too are held to be liars as imitators of their God and Christ. And report itself, if consulted, both proclaims you to be very bad men and does not cease to preach against you a Christ from the seed of David. You did not hear the voice of the Father from heaven; you did not see the works of Christ, by which he testified about himself; the manuscripts in which these things are written you pretend to accept, so as to deceive under a Christian appearance; yet so that they may not be read against you, you say they are falsified. You quote from them Christ saying, “If you do not believe me, believe the works,” and, “I am the one who bears witness about myself, and the Father who sent me bears witness about me,” and you do not want quoted against you from them: “Search the scriptures, in which you think you have eternal life; they bear witness about me,” and, “If you believed Moses, you would believe me too; for he wrote about me,” and, “They have Moses and the prophets there; let them hear them,” and, “If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they believe if someone rises from the dead.” Where did you come out from? On what do you rely? You reject scriptures confirmed and commended by such great authority; you do no miracles. And if you did them, we should beware of them too in you, since the Lord forewarned us, saying: “Many false christs and false prophets will arise and will do many signs and wonders, so as to deceive, if possible, even the elect; see, I have told you beforehand.” So far did he wish nothing to be believed against the confirmed authority of the scriptures, which proves its credibility by the facts themselves, which shows these things fulfilled and accomplished through the succession of times, which foretold them so long before they happened.
Gen 22:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 26:4 (allusion, medium confidence) · Gen 28:14 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 10:38 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:18 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:39 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:46 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 16:29 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 16:31 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 24:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 24:25 (quotation, high confidence) · Mark 13:22 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Augustine argues that report, if trusted, testifies against the Manichaeans and for the Christ of the scriptures, whose authority rests on the churches' succession and fulfilled prophecy.
- The quotation from Matt 24:24 is close to the Gospel wording, with “many” added.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (split word): proph etas → prophetas.
Topics: Scripture and canon, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 13.5 (CSEL 25.1:382–383; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/13-3/#p-13-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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13.6CSEL 25.1:383–384
Restat, ut rationem uos exhibere dicatis, tam certam et inuictam, ut per se ipsam declarata ueritate nullam testis auctoritatem, nullam miraculi ueritatem requirat. quid dicitis? quid profertis? quam rationem, quam ueritatem? fabula illa est longa et uana, puerile ludibrium et muliebre auocamentum et aniculare deliramentum continens initium truncum et medium putridum et finem ruinosum. cum enim uobis ex eius initio dictum fuerit: inmortali, inuisibili, incorruptibili deo quid factura erat gens tenebrarum, si cum ea pugnare noluisset? et de medio eius: quomodo est incorruptibilis et incontaminabilis deus, cuius membra in pomis et oleribus manducando et digerendo conteritis. ut purgetis? et de fine eius: quid fecit anima misera, ut in globo tenebrarum perpetuo uinculo puniatur. quae non suo uitio, sed alieno maculata deo suo deficiente mundari non potuit, quo mittente polluta est? haesitantibus uobis et quid respondeatis non inuenientibus conspiciuntur tam multi et tam grandes et tam pretiosi codices uestri et multum dolentur labores antiquariorum et saccelli miserorum et panis deceptorum. si ergo nec scripturarum auctoritatis antiquitas nec miraculorum potestas nec morum sanitas nec rationis ueritas uos adserit. abite confusi et redite confessi ipsum esse Christum omnium in se credentium saluatorem: cuius nomen et cuius ecclesiam ita exhibent praesentia tempora, sicut praeterita nuntiarunt. non per quemlibet de cauernosis latebris procedentem, sed quadam gente et quodam regno ad hoc propagato et instituto. ut ibi de illo cuncta figuris praenotarentur, quae nunc expressa rebus agnoscerentur, et ibi per prophetas praedicta scriberentur, quae nunc per apostolos praedicata praestarentur?
It remains for you to say that you offer a reason so certain and unanswerable that, the truth being made plain by itself, it needs no authority of a witness, no truth of a miracle. What do you say? What do you bring forward? What reason, what truth? That fable is long and empty, a childish game, a woman's pastime, an old wife's raving, with a maimed beginning, a rotten middle and a ruinous end. For when you are asked, from its beginning: “What was the race of darkness going to do to the immortal, invisible, incorruptible God, if he had not chosen to fight with it?” and from its middle: “How is God incorruptible and undefilable, whose members you crush in fruits and vegetables by eating and digesting them, in order to purify them?” and from its end: “What did the wretched soul do, that it should be punished in the globe of darkness with a perpetual bond, when, stained by another's fault and not its own, it could not be cleansed because its God failed it, by whose sending it was defiled?”, then, while you hesitate and find nothing to answer, your so many and so large and so costly manuscripts are looked upon, and one grieves much for the labours of the copyists, the purses of the wretched and the bread of the deceived. If, then, neither the antiquity of the scriptures' authority, nor the power of miracles, nor soundness of morals, nor the truth of reason supports you, go away confounded, and come back confessing that he is the Christ, the Saviour of all who believe in him, whose name and whose church the present times display just as past times announced them; not through any man coming out of cavernous hiding places, but through a certain nation and a certain kingdom extended and established for this purpose: that there all things concerning him should be foreshadowed in figures, which are now recognized as expressed in fact, and that there should be written, foretold by the prophets, what is now made good as preached by the apostles.
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Summary: Augustine says the Manichaean myth fails as reason at its beginning, middle and end, and calls them back to the Christ foretold through the Hebrew nation.
- The three questions sum up Augustine's usual objections to the Manichaean myth of the war between light and darkness, the purification of divine light by the elect's eating, and the final binding of souls in the globe of darkness.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 13.6 (CSEL 25.1:383–384; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/13-3/#p-13-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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13.7CSEL 25.1:384–386
Proinde constituite nobis aliquem catechizandum gentilem. in quo Faustus defecisse nos risit, ubi non ridendus, sed plangendus ipse defecit. si enim dixerimus homini gentili: crede Christo, quia deus est. et responderit: unde credo? prolataque auctoritate prophetarum eis se non credere dixerit, quod illi Hebraei sint, ipse paganus: ostendimus fidem prophetarum ex his, quae uentura cecinerunt et uenisse cernuntur. credo enim, quod eum non lateret, quantas a regibus huius saeculi persecutiones prius pertulerit christiana religio; aut si lateret, per ipsam historiam gentium et imperiales leges litteris. memoriaeque mandatas ei facile probaretur. quod cum tanto ante praedictum ex propheta cognosceret dicente: utquid fremuerunt gentes et populi meditati sunt inania? astiterunt reges terrae et principes conuenerunt in unum aduersus dominum et aduersum Christum eius quae non de ipso Dauid fuisse dicta in eodem ipso psalmo facile adparet; ibi enim dicitur etiam illud, quod homines quamlibet pertinacissimos ipsa rerum manifestatione confundit: dominus dixit ad me: filius meus es tu, ego hodie genui te; postula a me et dabo tibi gentes hereditatem tuam et possessionem tuam terminos terrae: quod genti Iudaeorum, in qua regnauit Dauid, non esse concessum, Christi autem nomine longe lateque omnes gentes occupante nemo dubitat esse conpletum — credo, moueretur, cum hinc et alia multa ex prophetis audiret, quae nunc persequi longum est. uideret etiam ipsos reges terrae Christi imperio iam salubriter subiugatos omnesque gentes eidem seruientes et legeretur ei de psalmo tanto ante praedictum: adorabunt eum omnes reges, terrae, omnes gentes seruient ei totumque psalmum ipsum, qui figurate tamquam in Salomonem dicitur, si legere uellet, inueniret Christum uere regem pacificum — hoc enim Salomonis nomen interpretatur — in quo cognosceret conpleta omnia, quae ibi dicuntur, longe remotissima ab illo homine Salomone rege Israhel. illum itidem psalmum, ubi deus unctus a deo dicitur et utique Christus ipsa unctione declaratur idemque Christus deus apertissime ostenditur, cum deus unctus insinuatur, si considerare uellet, quae ibi de Christo, quae de ipsa ecclesia dicta sunt, quae ibi quidem praedicta legeret, in orbe autem terrarum inpleta conspiceret, uideret quoque ipsa simulacra gentium per Christi nomen sic perire de orbe terrarum idque ipsum a prophetis praedictum esse disceret, audiret Hieremiam dicentem: sic dicetis illis: dii, qui caelum et terram non fecerunt, pereant a terra et de sub caelo. item alio loco cum eundem prophetam dicentem audiret: domine, fortitudo mea et adiutorium meum et refugium meum in die malorum, ad te gentes uenient ab extremo terrae et dicent: quam falsa possederunt patres nostri simulacra, et non est in eis utilitas! sic faciet homo deus et ipsi non sunt dii. propterea ecce ego ostendam illis in tempore illo; manum meam ostendam illis et scient uirtutem meam, quoniam ego dominus. haec audiens de scriptura prophetica et cernens in uniuersa terra quid dicam, quemadmodum moueretur ad fidem, quando et hoc rebus ipsis probamus, cum per prophetiam ante tempora conscriptam et his temporibus inpletam corda fidelium sic firmari cognoscimus?
So then, set before us some Gentile to be instructed, in whose case Faustus laughed at us as failing, where it is he himself who has failed, to be lamented rather than laughed at. For if we say to a Gentile, “Believe in Christ, because he is God,” and he answers, “On what ground do I believe?”, and, when the authority of the prophets is brought forward, says that he does not believe them, because they are Hebrews and he is a pagan, we show the credibility of the prophets from the things which they sang of as to come and which are seen to have come. For I believe it would not escape him what great persecutions the Christian religion first endured from the kings of this world; or if it did escape him, it would easily be proved to him from the history of the nations itself and from the imperial laws committed to writing and to memory. When he learned that this had been foretold so long before by the prophet who says: “Why did the nations rage, and the peoples meditate vain things? The kings of the earth stood up, and the princes gathered together against the Lord and against his Christ” (and that this was not said of David himself is easily seen in that same psalm, for there is also said what confounds men however stubborn by the plain evidence of the facts: “The Lord said to me: You are my Son; today I have begotten you. Ask of me, and I will give you the nations as your inheritance, and the ends of the earth as your possession”; which no one doubts was not granted to the nation of the Jews, in which David reigned, but has been fulfilled with the name of Christ occupying all nations far and wide), then, I believe, he would be moved, when he heard from here many other things too from the prophets which it would take long to go through now. He would see also the very kings of the earth now salutarily subjected to Christ's rule and all nations serving him, and there would be read to him from the psalm what was foretold so long before: “All the kings of the earth shall worship him; all nations shall serve him.” And if he chose to read that whole psalm, which is spoken figuratively as of Solomon, he would find Christ truly the peaceful king (for this is what the name Solomon means), in whom he would recognize fulfilled all that is said there, things far removed from that man Solomon, king of Israel. Likewise that psalm where God is said to be anointed by God, and Christ is certainly declared by that very anointing, and the same Christ is most plainly shown to be God, when God anointed is spoken of: if he chose to consider what is said there of Christ and what of the church itself, which he would read foretold there and see fulfilled throughout the world; he would see also the very idols of the Gentiles perishing so from the world through the name of Christ, and would learn that this very thing was foretold by the prophets; he would hear Jeremiah saying: “Thus shall you say to them: Let the gods who did not make heaven and earth perish from the earth and from under heaven.” Again, when he heard the same prophet in another place saying: “Lord, my strength and my help and my refuge in the day of evils, to you the nations shall come from the end of the earth and shall say: How false were the idols our fathers possessed, and there is no profit in them! Shall a man so make gods, and they are not gods? Therefore, behold, I will show them in that time; I will show them my hand, and they shall know my power, for I am the Lord”: hearing these things from prophetic scripture and seeing what I describe over the whole earth, how he would be moved to faith, when we prove this too by the facts themselves, since we know that the hearts of the faithful are strengthened in this way by prophecy written before the times and fulfilled in these times!
Ps 2:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 2:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 2:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 2:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 72:11 (71:11 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 45:7 (44:8 LXX) (allusion, high confidence) · Jer 10:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 16:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 16:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 16:21 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine answers Faustus's imagined Gentile: the persecutions, the conversion of kings and the fall of idols, all foretold in the psalms and Jeremiah, make the prophets credible.
- “Solomon” is explained from Hebrew shalom, “peace.”
- In Jer 16:20 the Latin as quoted reads “sic faciet homo deus” (literally “so a man will make god”); translated as a question by sense.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray mark): a me e.t dabo → a me et dabo; interpretatur ■— → interpretatur —.
Topics: Scripture and canon, Persecution
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 13.7 (CSEL 25.1:384–386; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/13-3/#p-13-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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13.8CSEL 25.1:386–388
Iam uero ne hominem, sicut magni quidam homines fuerunt, Christum putaret, idem propheta hoc illi de cogitatione excuteret. ibi enim sequitur et dicit: maledictus homo, qui spem habet in homine et firmat carnem brachii sui et a domino discedit cor eius: et erit sicut tamarix, quae in deserto est; non uidebit, cum uenient bona, et habitabit inter iniquos in terra deserta, in terra salsa, quae non inhabitabitur et: benedictus homo, qui confidit in domino, et erit dominus spes eius, eritque tamquam lignum fructiferum secus aquam, et in humore mittet radices suas; non timebit cum uenerit aestus. et erunt in eo propagines nemorosae; in anno siccitatis non timebit et non deficiet faciendo fructum. hic certe cum maledictum diceret eum, qui spem ponit in homine, eamque maledictionem propheticis similitudinibus explicaret, et benedictum, qui in domino confideret eamque benedictionem congruis itidem similitudinibus texeret: turbaretur fortasse ille, quomodo ei. ne spem suam in homine poneret. deum Christum adnuntiaremus, et rursum eum non ex propria natura, sed ex nostra mortalitate suscepta hominem diceremus. sic enim quidam deum credendo Christum et hominem negando errauerunt; et rursus quidam hominem putando et deum negando aut contempserunt aut in homine spem suam ponentes in illud maledictum inciderunt. hic ergo iste gentilis si turbaretur. et diceret contra fidem nostram istum prophetam locutum fuisse, quia nos secundum apostolicam doctrinam non tantummodo deum Christum diceremus, ut in eo spes securissime ponatur, sed etiam mediatorem dei et hominum hominem Iesum Christum, istum autem deum tantum dixisse, de natura uero humana nullam fecisse mentionem: ibidem eiusdem prophetae uocem audiret se admonentis et corrigentis: graue cor per omnia, et homo est, et quis agnoscet eum? ideo quippe homo, ut graues corde per formam serui ex fide sanarentur et eum agnoscerent deum, qui propter eos factus est homo, ne in homine spes eorum esset, sed in homine deo. et tamen, graue cor per omnia, et homo est formam serui accipiens. et quis agnoscit eum? qui cum in forma dei esset, non rapinam arbitratus est esse aequalis deo. et homo est, quia uerbum caro factum est et habitauit in nobis. et quis agnoscit eum? quia in principio erat uerbum et uerbum erat apud deum et deus erat uerbum. et uere graue cor per omnia; nam et in discipulis eius ipsum graue cor fuit, cum eis dicebat; tanto tempore uobiscum sum et non cognouistis me? quid est enim "tanto tempore uobiscum sum" nisi quod hic dicitur: et homo est? quid est autem aliud "et non cognouistis me?" nisi quod hic dicitur: et quis agnoscit eum? quem, nisi eum, qui dicit: qui me uidit, uidit et patrem? ut spes nostra non sit in homine propter illud per prophetam edictum maledictum, sed sit in homine deo, id est in filio dei saluatore Iesu Christo, mediatore dei et hominum; et quo pater maior est propter formam serui, et qui patri aequalis est propter formam dei.
And so that he should not think Christ a man, as some great men have been, the same prophet would shake this out of his thinking. For there it follows, and he says: “Cursed is the man who has his hope in man, and makes flesh his arm's strength, and whose heart departs from the Lord; and he shall be like the tamarisk that is in the desert; he shall not see when good things come, and he shall dwell among the wicked in a desert land, in a salt land which shall not be inhabited”; and: “Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, and the Lord shall be his hope; and he shall be like a fruitful tree beside the water, and he shall send out his roots into the moisture; he shall not fear when the heat comes, and there shall be leafy shoots on him; in the year of drought he shall not fear and shall not fail in bearing fruit.” Here, certainly, since he called cursed the one who puts his hope in man, and unfolded that curse in prophetic likenesses, and called blessed the one who trusts in the Lord, and wove that blessing likewise in fitting likenesses, our man might perhaps be troubled at how, so that he should not put his hope in man, we announce Christ to him as God, and on the other hand call him man, not from his own nature but from our mortality which he took up. For so some erred by believing Christ God and denying him man; and again some, by thinking him man and denying him God, either despised him or, putting their hope in a man, fell into that curse. If then this Gentile were troubled, and said that this prophet had spoken against our faith, because we, following the apostolic teaching, call Christ not only God, so that hope may be placed in him most securely, but also the mediator between God and men, the man Jesus Christ, whereas the prophet spoke only of God and made no mention of human nature: in the same place he would hear the voice of the same prophet admonishing and correcting him: “The heart is heavy in all things, and he is man, and who shall know him?” He is man precisely so that those heavy of heart might be healed by faith through the form of a servant, and might know him as God who for their sake was made man, so that their hope might not be in a man but in the man who is God. And yet, “the heart is heavy in all things, and he is man,” taking the form of a servant; “and who knows him?” who, being in the form of God, did not think it robbery to be equal to God. “And he is man,” because the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us; “and who knows him?” because in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And truly the heart is heavy in all things; for even in his disciples that heart was heavy, when he said to them: “Have I been with you so long, and you have not known me?” For what does “I have been with you so long” mean, but what is said here: “and he is man”? And what else does “and you have not known me” mean, but what is said here: “and who knows him”? Whom, but him who says: “He who has seen me has seen the Father too”? So that our hope may not be in man, because of that curse proclaimed through the prophet, but in the man who is God, that is, in the Son of God, the Saviour Jesus Christ, the mediator between God and men; both he than whom the Father is greater because of the form of a servant, and he who is equal to the Father because of the form of God.
Jer 17:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 17:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 17:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 17:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 17:9 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 2:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:7 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:9 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:28 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine reads Jeremiah 17 as forbidding hope in a mere man yet declaring that Christ is man, so that hope rests in Christ as God made man.
- Jer 17:9 is quoted in the Old Latin form from the Greek (“heavy is the heart … and he is man, and who shall know him?”), which differs from the Hebrew; Augustine reads it of Christ.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 13.8 (CSEL 25.1:386–388; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/13-3/#p-13-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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13.9CSEL 25.1:388–389
Dicit et Esaias: humiliabitur et cadet contumelia hominum et exaltabitur dominus solus in illa die; et manibus fabricata omnia abscondent in speluncis et in scissuris petrarum et in cauernis terrae a facie timoris domini et a maiestate uirtutis eius, cum surrexerit confringere terram. illa enim die proiciet homo abominationes aureas et argenteas, quas fecerunt, ut adorarent superuacanea et noxia. et forte iste gentilis, quem catechizamus, quem dixit Faustus cum risu dicturum: "non credo prophetis Hebraeis," aliqua manu fabricata idola abscondit in spelunca aut in scissura petrae aut in cauerna terrae aut aliquem amicum suum scit hoc fecisse aut in ciuitate uel in fundo suo scit factum esse a facie timoris domini, qui per reges terrae secundum eandem prophetiam iam sibi seruientes seque adorantes seuerissimis legibus terram confringit, id est terreni cordis frangit audaciam. quomodo ergo dicat "non credo prophetis Hebraeis," cum et in se ipso conpletum forte cognoscat, quod olim praedictum est a prophetis Hebraeis?
Isaiah also says: “The insolence of men shall be humbled and shall fall, and the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day; and they shall hide all things made by hands in caves and in clefts of the rocks and in caverns of the earth, from the face of the fear of the Lord and from the majesty of his power, when he rises to shatter the earth. For in that day man shall cast away the abominations of gold and silver which they made, to worship vain and harmful things.” And perhaps this Gentile whom we are instructing, whom Faustus said would declare with a laugh, “I do not believe the Hebrew prophets,” has himself hidden some idols made by hand in a cave or in a cleft of a rock or in a cavern of the earth, or knows that some friend of his has done so, or knows that it has been done in his city or on his estate, from the face of the fear of the Lord, who, through the kings of the earth who, according to the same prophecy, now serve and worship him, shatters the earth with very severe laws, that is, breaks the boldness of the earthly heart. How then can he say, “I do not believe the Hebrew prophets,” when he perhaps recognizes fulfilled in himself what was foretold long ago by the Hebrew prophets?
Isa 2:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 2:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Isa 2:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 2:20 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine notes that Gentiles now hide their idols from the imperial laws, as Isaiah foretold.
- The “very severe laws” are the imperial laws against pagan worship of Augustine's day.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: e for o): fundo sue scit → fundo suo scit.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 13.9 (CSEL 25.1:388–389; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/13-3/#p-13-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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13.10CSEL 25.1:389–390
Magis uerendum erat, ne tanta rerum euidentia circumfusus fortasse diceret, posteaquam ista per mundum fieri coeperunt, christianos has litteras conposuisse, ut ante diuinitus praedicta putarentur, ne quasi temere humanitus facta contemnerentur. hoc uerendum est, nisi esset late sparsus lateque notus populus Iudaeorum, Cain ille signo accepto, ne ab aliquo interficiatur, et ille Cham seruus fratrum suorum portando libros, quibus illi erudiantur, ipse oneretur. per eorum quippe codices probamus non a nobis tamquam de rerum euentu commonitis ista esse conscripta, sed olim in illo regno praedicta atque seruata, nunc autem manifestata et inpleta: in quibus et ea, quae ibi minus perspicua sunt, quia in figura contingebant illis; scripta sunt autem propter nos, in quos finis saeculorum obuenit, iam nunc inlustrata soluuntur, et quae umbris futurarum adhuc rerum opacabantur, iam factarum luce manifestantur.
There was more reason to fear that, surrounded by such evidence of the facts, he might perhaps say that the Christians composed these writings after these things began to happen throughout the world, so that they might be thought to have been foretold beforehand by God and not be despised as done rashly by human means. This would be something to fear, were it not that the people of the Jews is widely scattered and widely known: that Cain who received a mark so that no one should kill him, and that Ham, the servant of his brothers, loaded with carrying the books by which they are taught. For by their manuscripts we prove that these things were not written by us as men prompted by the outcome of events, but were foretold long ago in that kingdom and preserved, and are now made plain and fulfilled. In them, too, the things that are less clear there, because they happened to those people in figure, but were written for our sake, on whom the end of the ages has come, are now illuminated and resolved; and what was darkened by the shadows of things still to come is now made plain by the light of things accomplished.
Gen 4:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 9:25 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 10:11 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine argues that the Jews, scattered everywhere and carrying the prophetic books, prove that the prophecies were not forged by Christians after the event.
- Augustine applies the figures of Cain's mark and of Ham the servant to the dispersed Jewish people, as in Book 12; this is his own typological reading, translated as written.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 13.10 (CSEL 25.1:389–390; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/13-3/#p-13-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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13.11CSEL 25.1:390–391
Forte etiam hinc se diceret permoueri. quod ipsi, in quorum libris haec inueniuntur esse praenuntiata, quae nunc cernuntur inpleta. non nobiscum tenent eiusdem euangelii societatem. cum uero doceretur etiam hoc ab eisdem prophetis esse praedictum, quantum moueretur ad fidem, quis tam demens est, ut non uideat? quis tam inpudens, ut se uidere dissimulet? quis enim dubitet hoc de Iudaeis fuisse prophetatum, cum Esaias dicat: agnouit bos possessorem suum et asinus praesepe domini sui; Israhel autem me non cognouit et populus meus me non intellexit aut illud, quod apostolus commemorat: tota die expandi manus meas ad populum non credentem et contradicentem et maxime illud: dedit illis deus spiritum conpunctionis, oculos, ut non uideant, et aures, ut non audiant et non intellegant et multa huiusmodi? quodsi diceret: quid ergo peccauerunt Iudaei, si deus illos excaecauit, ne agnoscerent Christum? quantum possemus, inbuendo rudi homini ostenderemus ex aliis occultis peccatis deo cognitis uenire iustam poenam huius caecitatis; quod non solum dixisse apostolum de quibusdam: propter hoc tradidit illos deus in concupiscentiam cordis eorum uel in reprobum sensum. ut faciant, quae non conueniunt, uolentem ostendere quaedam peccata manifesta ex poena uenire quorundam occultorum, sed nec ipsos hoc tacuisse prophetas demonstraremus. nam. ne pergam longius, idem Hieremias eo ipso loco, ubi ait: et homo est. et quis agnoscit eum? ne quasi hoc ipso excusati essent Iudaei, quia non cognouerunt — si enim cognouissent, sicut apostolus dicit, numquam dominum gloriae crucifixissent — sequitur et ostendit occulti eorum meriti fuisse, ut non cognoscerent. ait enim: ego dominus interrogans corda et probans renes, ut dem unicuique secundum uiam eius et secundum fructum studiorum eius.
Perhaps he might also say that he was disturbed by this: that those very people in whose books these things are found foretold, which are now seen fulfilled, do not share the fellowship of the same gospel with us. But when he was taught that this too was foretold by the same prophets, who is so mad as not to see how much he would be moved toward faith? Who so shameless as to pretend not to see it? For who would doubt that this was prophesied of the Jews, when Isaiah says: “The ox knew its owner and the ass its master's manger; but Israel has not known me, and my people has not understood me”; or what the apostle recalls: “All day long I stretched out my hands to a people that does not believe and contradicts”; and above all: “God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that they should not see and ears that they should not hear and not understand,” and many things of this kind? And if he said, “What then did the Jews sin, if God blinded them so that they should not know Christ?”, we would show him, as far as we could in instructing an untaught man, that the just punishment of this blindness comes from other hidden sins known to God. We would demonstrate not only that the apostle said of certain people, “For this reason God handed them over to the desire of their hearts,” or “to a reprobate mind, to do what is not fitting,” wishing to show that certain open sins come as the punishment of certain hidden ones, but also that the prophets themselves did not pass this over in silence. For, not to go further, the same Jeremiah, in that very place where he says, “and he is man, and who knows him?”, so that the Jews should not be excused by this very fact that they did not know him (for if they had known, as the apostle says, they would never have crucified the Lord of glory), goes on to show that it was due to their hidden desert that they did not know him. For he says: “I am the Lord, who search the hearts and test the reins, to give to each according to his way and according to the fruit of his pursuits.”
Isa 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 10:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 65:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 11:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 29:10 (allusion, medium confidence) · Deut 29:4 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 1:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:28 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 17:9 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 17:10 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine says the Jews' rejection of the gospel was itself foretold, and that their blindness is a just punishment for hidden sins.
- Augustine's statements about the Jews' blindness and its cause are translated as written; they reflect his reading of Isa 6 and Rom 9–11 as used in his polemic.
- Jer 17:10 follows Jer 17:9 as quoted in 13.8.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (joined words): quistam demens → quis tam demens.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 13.11 (CSEL 25.1:390–391; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/13-3/#p-13-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Zycha (CSEL 25.1, 1891); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation of R. Stothert in NPNF¹ 4 (1887).
13.12CSEL 25.1:391–392
Porro si hoc gentilis ille moueretur, cur etiam ipsi, qui appellantur christiani, in multas haereses uariasque discedunt. neque hoc a prophetis Hebraeis praetermissum esse doceremus. tamquam enim esset consequens, ut Iudaeis in sua caecitate demonstratis hoc illi ueniret in mentem, quod etiam multi sub nomine christiano ab ipsa christiana societate deuiarent, ipse Hieremias uelut catechizandi ordinem nobis insinuans continuo subiecit: clamauit perdix, congregauit, quae non peperit, faciens diuitias suas non cum iudicio. perdix enim, nimis contentiosum animal, notum est, quanta auiditate ipsius contentionis currat in laqueum. non enim disputare amant haeretici, sed quoquo modo superare inpudentissima peruicacia, ut congregent, sicut hic dixit quae non pepererunt. christianos enim, quos maxime Christi nomine seducunt, iam per ipsius Christi euangelium natos inueniunt et faciunt illos diuitias suas, non sane cum iudicio, sed cum temeritate inconsiderata. non enim intellegunt ibi esse ueram et salubrem et quodam modo germanam atque radicalem christianam societatem, unde istos separauerunt, quos ad suas diuitias congregarunt. et quia de talibus dicit apostolus: sicut enim Iamnes et Mambres restiterunt Moysi. sic et isti resistunt ueritati. homines mente corrupti, reprobi circa fidem: sed ultra non proficient: dementia enim eorum manifesta erit omnibus, sicut et illorum fuit, sequitur et hic propheta et dicit de perdice, qui congregauit, quae non peperit: in dimidio dierum eius derelinquent eum et in nouissimis suis erit insipiens. id est qui primo tamquam per pollicitationem et ostentationem excellentis sapientiae seducebat, erit insipiens, id est adparebit insipiens. eis quippe, quibus primo sapiens erat, tunc erit insipiens, cum adparebit. quia dementia eius nota erit omnibus.
Again, if that Gentile were disturbed by this, that even those who are called Christians break away into many and various heresies, we would teach him that this too was not passed over by the Hebrew prophets. For as though it followed that, once the Jews had been shown in their blindness, it would come into his mind that many under the Christian name also stray from the Christian fellowship itself, Jeremiah himself, as if showing us the order of instruction, immediately added: “The partridge cried out; it gathered what it did not hatch, making its riches not with judgment.” For it is well known how the partridge, an exceedingly quarrelsome creature, runs into the snare out of sheer eagerness for the quarrel. For heretics do not love to debate, but to win in any way at all by the most shameless obstinacy, so as to gather, as he said here, what they did not hatch. For the Christians whom they chiefly lead astray by the name of Christ they find already born through the gospel of Christ himself, and they make them their riches, not indeed with judgment, but with thoughtless rashness. For they do not understand that the true and saving and, in a sense, genuine and rooted Christian fellowship is there from which they separated those whom they gathered to their riches. And since the apostle says of such men: “For as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so these also resist the truth, men corrupt in mind, reprobate concerning the faith; but they will not go further, for their madness will be plain to all, as theirs also was,” this prophet too goes on and says of the partridge which gathered what it did not hatch: “In the middle of its days they will forsake it, and at its end it will be a fool.” That is, he who at first led astray as if by the promise and display of excellent wisdom will be a fool, that is, will appear a fool. For to those for whom he was at first wise, he will then be a fool, when he appears so, because his madness will be known to all.
Jer 17:11 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 3:8 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 3:9 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine reads Jeremiah's partridge that gathers what it did not hatch as a prophecy of heretics who draw away Christians born of the church's gospel.
- Jer 17:11 is quoted in the Old Latin form from the Greek. “Mambres” is the Latin form of Jambres in 2 Tim 3:8.
Topics: Heresy, Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 13.12 (CSEL 25.1:391–392; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/13-3/#p-13-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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13.13CSEL 25.1:392–393
Et tamquam ille, quem catechizamus, quaereret et diceret: quo ergo signo manifesto adhuc paruulus et nondum ualens liquidam discernere a tot erroribus ueritatem, quo manifesto indicio tenebo ecclesiam Christi. in quem iam credere tanta rerum antea praedictarum manifestatione conpellor? sequitur idem propheta et tamquam motus animi eius ordinatissime excipiens docet eum ecclesiam Christi ipsam esse praedictam, quae omnibus eminet et adparet. ipsa enim est sedes gloriae, de qua dicit apostolus: templum dei sanctum est, quod estis uos. unde iste dicit: sedes autem gloriae exaltata est. sanctificatio nostra. propter hos enim motus paruulorum, qui possunt seduci ab hominibus. manifestationem claritatis ecclesiae dominus quoque prouidens ait: non potest ciuitas abscondi supra montem constituta, quia utique sedes gloriae exaltata est, sanctificatio nostra, ut non audiantur illi. qui ad religionum scissuras traducunt dicentes: ecce hic est Christus, ecce illic. partes enim ostendunt dicentes: ecce hic, ecce illic. cum illa ciuitas super montem. sit, quem montem. nisi eum. qui secundum prophetiam Danihelis ex paruulo lapide creuit et factus est mons magnus, ita ut inpleret uniuersam terram? nec illi audiantur, qui nomine quasi secretae et apocryphae ueritatis hominum paucitatis dicunt: ecce in cubiculis, ecce in deserto, quia non potest abscondi ciuitas super montem constituta. quia sedes gloriae exaltata est, sanctificatio nostra.
And as though the man we are instructing were to ask and say: “By what plain sign, then, while I am still a little one and not yet able to discern the clear truth among so many errors, by what plain mark shall I hold to the church of Christ, in whom I am now compelled to believe by so plain a fulfilment of things foretold?”, the same prophet goes on and, as if taking up the movements of his mind in perfect order, teaches him that the church of Christ which was foretold is the very one which stands out and is visible to all. For it is the seat of glory, of which the apostle says: “The temple of God is holy, which you are.” Hence the prophet says: “But the seat of glory is exalted, our sanctification.” For because of these movements of little ones, who can be led astray by men, the Lord too, foreseeing the manifestation of the church's brightness, says: “A city set on a mountain cannot be hidden,” since indeed the seat of glory is exalted, our sanctification, so that those may not be listened to who draw people into religious schisms, saying, “See, here is the Christ; see, there.” For they point to parts, saying, “See here, see there,” whereas that city is on a mountain. What mountain, but the one which, according to the prophecy of Daniel, grew from a little stone and became a great mountain, so that it filled the whole earth? Nor let those be listened to who, in the name of a supposedly secret and hidden truth of a few men, say, “See, in the inner rooms; see, in the desert,” because a city set on a mountain cannot be hidden, because the seat of glory is exalted, our sanctification.
1 Cor 3:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 17:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 5:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 24:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Dan 2:35 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 24:26 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine finds in Jeremiah and the Gospels that the true church is the one visible over the whole world, like a city on a mountain.
- Jer 17:12 is quoted in the Old Latin form from the Greek.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray letter; stray mark): ut non. audiantur → ut non audiantur; ueritatis d hominum → ueritatis hominum.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 13.13 (CSEL 25.1:392–393; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/13-3/#p-13-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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13.14CSEL 25.1:393–394
Cum ergo iste gentilis his atque huiusmodi aliis testimoniis prophetarum de persecutione regum et populorum, de fide regum et populorum, de abolitione idolorum, de caecitate Iudaeorum, de probatione codicum ab ipsis custoditorum, de amentia haereticorum. de excellentia sanctae ecclesiae uerorum et germanorum christianorum ante praedicta nunc inpleta conspiceret, quid inueniret fide dignius quam illos prophetas, quibus de diuinitate Christi eligeret credere? etenim si antequam ista fierent, ingererem gentili prophetas Hebraeos, quibus ea futura crederet, quae facta nondum uideret, merito fortasse diceret: quid mihi est cum istis prophetis, quos unde ueraces probem, non mihi ostenditur? cum uero tam magna et tam multa, quae praedixerunt. iam ad effectum manifestationemque perducta sunt, plane ille. si peruersus esse nollet, nec ista ullo modo contemneret, quae tanto ante et tanto adparatu praeuidenda et praenuntianda commendari meruerunt, nec illos, a quibus praeuideri et praenuntiari potuerunt. nullis. enim prudentius credimus uel de praeteritis, quae olim facta sunt. uel de futuris. quae nondum facta sunt, quam eis, qui nobis fidem uerborum suorum tam multis tamque magnis, quae ab eis praedicta iam facta sunt, probauerunt.
When, therefore, this Gentile saw, by these and other such testimonies of the prophets, things foretold and now fulfilled concerning the persecution by kings and peoples, the faith of kings and peoples, the abolition of idols, the blindness of the Jews, the evidence of the manuscripts kept by them, the madness of the heretics, the excellence of the holy church of true and genuine Christians, what would he find more worthy of belief than those prophets, so as to choose to believe them about the divinity of Christ? For if, before these things happened, I were to press the Hebrew prophets on a Gentile, so that he should believe from them that things would come which he did not yet see accomplished, he might perhaps rightly say: “What have I to do with these prophets, when I am not shown how I am to prove them truthful?” But when so many great things which they foretold have already been brought to effect and made manifest, plainly, if he did not wish to be perverse, he would in no way despise either these things, which deserved to be commended as foreseen and foretold so long before and with such great preparation, or those by whom they could be foreseen and foretold. For there are none whom we more wisely believe, whether about past things that happened long ago or about future things that have not yet happened, than those who have proved to us the truth of their words by so many and such great things foretold by them which have now come to pass.
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Summary: Augustine concludes that fulfilled prophecy makes the prophets the most credible witnesses to Christ's divinity.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 13.14 (CSEL 25.1:393–394; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/13-3/#p-13-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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13.15CSEL 25.1:394–395
Sibylla porro uel Sibyllae et Orpheus et nescio quis Hermes et si qui alii uates uel theologi uel sapientes uel philosophi gentium de filio dei aut de patre deo uera praedixisse seu dixisse perhibentur, ualet quidem aliquid ad paganorum uanitatem reuincendam. non tamen ad istorum auctoritatem amplectendam, cum illum deum nos colere ostendimus, de quo nec illi tacere potuerunt, qui suos congentiles populos idola et daemonia colenda partim docere ausi sunt, partim prohibere non ausi sunt. at illi sancti auctores nostri eum populum, eam rempublicam, tale regnum imperante et adiuuante deo propagauerunt atque rexerunt. ubi sacrilegium esset, quod istis religio fuit. itaque si qui illic in cultum simulacrorum et daemonum laberentur, aut poena plectebantur ipsis suae reipublicae legibus aut liberrimo tonitru cohercebantur propheticis uocibus. unus enim ab eis colebatur deus, qui fecit caelum et terram, prophetico sane ritu, hoc est significatiuo futurorum, qui ritus aboleretur. cum illa uenissent, quae per eum significabantur esse uentura, quandoquidem ipsum regnum magnus quidam propheta fuit, ubi rex et sacerdos mystica significatione ungebantur: quod non ante ipsis quoque Iudaeis ignorantibus ac per hoc inuitis ablatum est, nisi cum uenisset ille gratia spiritali unctus deus prae participibus suis, ille sanctus sanctorum, idem uerus rex consulendo nobis et idem uerus sacerdos se ipsum offerendo pro nobis. quamobrem quantum distat de Christi aduentu inter praedicationem angelorum et confessionem daemoniorum. tantum inter auctoritatem prophetarum et curiositatem sacrilegorum.
As for the Sibyl, or the Sibyls, and Orpheus, and some Hermes or other, and any other seers or theologians or sages or philosophers of the Gentiles who are said to have foretold or told true things about the Son of God or about God the Father, this has some value for refuting the vanity of the pagans, but not for embracing their authority; since we show that we worship that God about whom even those could not keep silent who partly dared to teach their fellow Gentile peoples to worship idols and demons, and partly did not dare to forbid it. But those holy authors of ours, with God commanding and helping, extended and governed that people, that commonwealth, such a kingdom, in which what was religion to these men would have been sacrilege. So if any there slipped into the worship of images and demons, they were either struck by punishment under the very laws of their commonwealth or restrained by the free thunder of prophetic voices. For one God was worshipped by them, who made heaven and earth, with a prophetic rite indeed, that is, one signifying things to come, a rite to be abolished when those things had come which it signified were to come; since that kingdom itself was one great prophet, in which king and priest were anointed with a mystical meaning. And this was not taken away, even from the Jews themselves, who did not understand and were therefore unwilling, until there came he who was anointed with spiritual grace, God above his fellows, that holy of holies, who is both the true king by caring for us and the true priest by offering himself for us. Therefore, as great as is the difference, concerning Christ's coming, between the preaching of the angels and the confession of the demons, so great is the difference between the authority of the prophets and the curiosity of the sacrilegious.
Ps 45:7 (44:8 LXX) (allusion, high confidence) · Dan 9:24 (allusion, medium confidence) · Heb 9:14 (allusion, low confidence)
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Summary: Augustine allows that pagan seers' sayings about God may refute paganism, but says they carry no authority compared with the Hebrew prophets, whose whole kingdom was a prophecy of Christ.
- “Holy of holies” as a title of Christ is from Dan 9:24 in the Latin.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: dropped letter; stray mark): tacere. potuerunt → tacere potuerunt; sunt. a illi sancti → sunt. at illi sancti; illic in. cultum → illic in cultum.
Extrabiblical texts: Sib. Or. (Sibylline Oracles; allusion); Orpheus (attributed), Orph. frag. (Orpheus (attributed), Orphic poems (fragments); allusion); Corp. herm. (Hermetic writings; allusion)
Topics: Scripture and canon, Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Faust. 13.15 (CSEL 25.1:394–395; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-contra-faustum/13-3/#p-13-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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