Letters 118.1–118.15
Latin text: Goldbacher, CSEL 34, 44, 57 (Latin text: Alois Goldbacher (CSEL 34, 44, 57, 1895–1911), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 1 (1886).
Chapter 118
118.1CSEL 34.2:665–666
Tu me innumerabilium quaestionum turba repente circumuallandum uel potius obruendum putasti, etiam si uacantem otiosumque credidisti. quando enim ego in quolibet otio tot rerum nodos tam festinanti et, ut scribis, iam paene proficiscenti possem dissoluere? numero enim rerum ipsarum impedirer, etiam si nodi faciles ad soluendum forent; tanta sunt autem perplexitate inuoluti et tenacitate constricti, ut, etiam si pauci essent, otiosissimum me occupantes magna mora temporis fatigarent intentionem atque attererent ungues meos. ego te autem uellem abripere de medio deliciosarum inquisitionum tuarum et constipare inter curas meas, ut uel disceres non esse inaniter curiosus uel curiositatem tuam cibandam atque nutriendam inponere non auderes eis, quorum inter curas uel maxima cura est reprimere ac refrenare curiosos. quanto enim melius quantoque fructuosius, si in dandis ad te ullis litteris tempus atque opera inpenditur, ad hoc potius inpenditur, ut resecentur uanae atque fallaces cupiditates tuae, quae tanto magis cauendae sunt, quanto facilius decipiunt nescio qua umbra honestatis et liberalium studiorum nomine uelatae atque palliatae, quam ut nostro ministerio atque, ut ita dixerim, satellitio in dominatum, quo tam bonam tuam mentem premant, uehementius excitentur!
You thought that I should suddenly be surrounded, or rather overwhelmed, by a crowd of innumerable questions, even if you believed me to be free and at leisure. For when, with any amount of leisure, could I untie so many knotty matters for one in such haste and, as you write, already almost setting out? I would be hindered by the very number of the matters even if the knots were easy to untie; but they are wrapped up in such intricacy and bound so tightly that, even if they were few, they would occupy me at my most leisured, weary my attention by the great expenditure of time, and wear down my fingernails. But I would like to snatch you away from the midst of your delightful inquiries and pack you in among my cares, so that you might either learn not to be idly curious, or not dare to impose the feeding and nourishing of your curiosity on those among whose cares even the greatest is to repress and rein in the curious. For if time and effort are spent in writing you any letter, how much better and more fruitful it is that they be spent on cutting back your vain and deceitful desires, which are the more to be guarded against the more easily they deceive, veiled and cloaked as they are with some shadow of honor and the name of liberal studies, than that by our ministry and, so to speak, our escort they should be roused more vehemently to the domination by which they oppress your so good mind!
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Summary: Augustine replies to Dioscorus that he has no time for his many questions and would rather cure his curiosity than feed it.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 118.1 (CSEL 34.2:665–666; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/118-1/#p-118-1).
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118.2CSEL 34.2:666–667
Ecce enim tot dialogi lecti si ad uidendum finem et capessendum omnium actionum tuarum nihil te adiuuerunt, quid prosunt? dic mihi. nam ubi finem constitueris totius huius flagrantissimi studii tui et tibi infructuosi et nobis molesti, epistula tua satis indicas. cum enim de soluendis quaestionibus, quas misisti, apud me per litteras satageres, ita scripsisti: Possem te inquis, plus et per multos caros tuos exorare, sed noui animum tuum, qui non rogari desiderat sed omnibus praestare, si tantum absit, quod dedecet, quod in hac re penitus nihil est dedecoris. tamen quodcumque est, peto praestes nauigaturo in his uerbis epistulae tuae recte quidem de me existimas, quod omnibus praestare desiderem, si absit, quod dedecet; sed in hac re nihil esse dedecoris, non mihi uidetur. non enim dedecora facies rerum adtingit sensum meum, cum cogito episcopum ecclesiasticis curis circumstrepentibus districtum atque distentum repente quasi obsurdescentem cohibere se ab his omnibus et dialogorum Tullianorum quaestiunculas uni scholastico exponere? quod quantum dedeceat, quamquam tuorum studiorum raptus ardore prorsus nolis adtendere, tu etiam sentis tamen. quid enim aliud indicat, quod, cum dixisses in hac re penitus nihil esse dedecoris, statim adiunxisti: Tamen quodcumque est, peto praestes nauigaturo. hoc enim sonat uideri tibi quidem nihil in hac re esse dedecoris, tamen, quodcumque est dedecoris, petere te, ut praestem nauigaturo. sed quid est, quaeso te, quod addidisti nauigaturo? an ego, nisi nauigaturus esses, praestare tibi aliquid dedecoris non deberem? nimirum putas, quod aqua marina dedecus abluatur. quod si ita esset, meum certe, qui nauigaturus non sum, inexpiatum remaneret.
For look: if so many dialogues you have read have not helped you at all to see and grasp the end of all your actions, what use are they? Tell me. For where you have set the end of this whole most ardent study of yours, fruitless to you and burdensome to us, your letter shows clearly enough. For when you were busying yourself to get me to solve by letter the questions you sent, you wrote thus: “I could entreat you more,” you say, “and through many who are dear to you, but I know your mind, which does not wish to be asked but to grant to all, provided only that nothing unbecoming is involved; and in this matter there is absolutely nothing unbecoming. However that may be, I ask you to grant it to me as I am about to sail.” In these words of your letter you judge rightly of me that I desire to grant to all, if nothing unbecoming is involved; but that there is nothing unbecoming in this matter does not seem so to me. For does not the unbecoming look of the thing strike my mind when I think of a bishop, distracted and stretched by church cares that clamor around him, suddenly growing deaf, as it were, holding himself back from all these and expounding little questions on Cicero's dialogues to a single student? How unbecoming this is, although carried away by the ardor of your studies you are quite unwilling to attend to it, you nevertheless feel too. For what else does it show that, having said that in this matter there is absolutely nothing unbecoming, you at once added, “However that may be, I ask you to grant it to me as I am about to sail”? For this sounds as if it seemed to you that there is nothing unbecoming in this matter, yet, whatever unbecomingness there is, you ask me to grant it to you as one about to sail. But what is it, I ask you, that you added, “as one about to sail”? Ought I not to grant you something unbecoming unless you were about to sail? No doubt you think that disgrace is washed off by sea water. If that were so, mine at least would remain unexpiated, since I am not about to sail.
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Summary: Augustine argues that it would be unbecoming for a busy bishop to expound Cicero to a single student, sailing or not.
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- Digital text corrected (OCR misreading; split word): dic niihi → dic mihi; dede. coris → dedecoris.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 118.2 (CSEL 34.2:666–667; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/118-1/#p-118-2).
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118.3CSEL 34.2:667–668
Scribis etiam nosse me, quam tibi molestissimum sit oneri esse cuipiam, et adtestaris solum deum nosse, quod nimia necessitate inpulsus hoc feceris. hic sane, cum epistulam tuam legerem, satis aduerti animum cognoscere necessitatem tuam, cum ecce mihi adfers et dicis: Mores hominum non ignoratis, qui procliues sunt ad uituperandum, et quam, si interrogatus quis non responderit, indoctus et hebes putabitur. hoc loco uero exarsi ad rescribendum tibi; hoc enim languore animi tui penetrasti mihi pectus et inrupisti in curas meas, ut dissimulare non possem, quantum me deus adiuuaret, mederi tibi, non ut de tuis quaestionibus enodandis explicandisque cogitarem, sed ut felicitatem tuam pendentem ex linguis hominum atque nutantem a tam infelici retinaculo abrumperem et cuidam sedi omnino inconcussae stabilique religarem. tune, o Dioscore, nec Persium tuum respicis insultantem tibi contorto uersiculo sed plane puerile caput, si sensus adsit, idoneo colapho contundentem atque cohercentem: Scire tuum nihil est, nisi te scire hoc sciat alter? tot, ut superius dixi, legisti dialogos, tot philosophorum altercationibus cor inseruisti! dic mihi, quaeso, quis eorum finem actionum suarum constituerit in fama uulgi aut in lingua hominum uel bonorum atque sapientium. tu autem et, quod magis pudendum est, iam nauigaturus satis praeclare te in Africa profecisse testaris, cum aliam ob causam te oneri non esse adseris negotiosissimis et in alia longe distantia intentis episcopis, ut tibi exponant Ciceronem, nisi quia times homines procliues ad uituperandum, ne interrogatus ab eis, si non responderis, indoctus et hebes puteris! o rem dignam uigiliis et lucubrationibus episcoporum!
You write also that I know how very irksome it is to you to be a burden to anyone, and you call God alone to witness that you have done this driven by excessive necessity. Here indeed, as I was reading your letter, I turned my mind attentively to learn what your necessity was, when lo, you bring it to me and say: “You are not ignorant of men's ways, how prone they are to find fault, and how, if someone who is asked does not answer, he will be thought unlearned and dull.” At this point I truly blazed up to write back to you; for by this sickness of your mind you pierced my heart and broke in upon my cares, so that I could not leave you untreated, as far as God would help me; not so as to think about untying and unraveling your questions, but to break off your happiness, which hangs on the tongues of men and sways from so unhappy a mooring, and tie it to a seat wholly unshaken and stable. Do you not consider, Dioscorus, even your Persius, who mocks you with a twisted little verse, or rather pounds and checks your plainly childish head, if there is any sense in it, with a fitting blow: “Is your knowing nothing, unless another knows that you know?” You have read, as I said above, so many dialogues; you have inserted your heart into so many disputes of philosophers! Tell me, I beg you, which of them set the end of his actions in the fame of the crowd or in the tongue of men, even of good and wise men? But you, and what is more shameful, already about to sail, testify that you have made quite splendid progress in Africa, since you assert that you are a burden to very busy bishops, intent on matters far removed, getting them to expound Cicero to you, for no other reason than that you fear men prone to find fault, lest, questioned by them, if you do not answer, you be thought unlearned and dull! O matter worthy of the vigils and night studies of bishops!
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Summary: Augustine rebukes Dioscorus for studying only to escape the reproach of ignorance, quoting Persius against him.
- Persius, Satires 1.27.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray punctuation): cuidam sedi. omnino → cuidam sedi omnino.
Extrabiblical texts: Persius, 1.27 (Persius, Satires; quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 118.3 (CSEL 34.2:667–668; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/118-1/#p-118-3).
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118.4CSEL 34.2:668–669
Non mihi uideris aliunde dies noctesque cogitare, nisi ut in studiis tuis atque doctrina lauderis ab hominibus. quod etsi semper ad certa et recta tendentibus periculosum esse iudicaui, nunc tamen in te maxime experior. non enim aliunde quam ex eadem pernicie non uidisti, qua tandem re possemus moueri, ut tibi, quod petebas, daremus. quam enim peruerse tu ipse non ob aliud ad ea discenda, quae interrogas, raperis, nisi ut lauderis aut non uitupereris ab hominibus, tam peruerse etiam nos putas in tua petitione talibus causis allegatis moueri. et utinam possemus efficere, ut tu quoque tam inani atque fallaci humanae laudis bono minime mouereris, cum tibi nos indicaremus non ad praestandum tibi, quod petis, quoniam haec de te scribis, sed ad te corrigendum moueri! mores hominum, inquis, procliues sunt ad uituperandum. quid deinde? si interrogatus quis non responderit, inquis, indoctus et hebes putabitur. ecce ego te interrogo non de Ciceronis libris aliquid, cuius sensum fortasse legentes indagare non possunt, sed de ipsa epistula tua et de sententia uerborum tuorum; quaero enim, cur non dixeris: Qui non responderit, indoctus et hebes manifestabitur, sed potius dixeris: Indoctus et hebes putabitur, nisi quia satis etiam ipse intellegis eum, qui talia non responderit, non esse indoctum et hebetem sed putari. at ego te admoneo eum, qui talium putatorum linguis tamquam falcibus concidi timet, lignum esse aridum et ideo non putari tantum indoctum atque hebetem sed uere esse atque conuinci.
You seem to me to think of nothing else day and night than of being praised by men for your studies and learning. Although I have always judged this dangerous for those who strive toward what is certain and right, I now experience it most of all in you. For it was from no other source than that same ruinous habit that you failed to see by what means we could actually be moved to give you what you asked. For just as perversely as you yourself are carried away to learn the things you ask about for no other reason than to be praised, or not to be blamed, by men, so perversely too you think that we are moved in your petition by the reasons you allege. And would that we could bring it about that you too were not in the least moved by so empty and deceitful a good as human praise, now that we show you that we are moved, not to grant what you ask, since you write these things about yourself, but to correct you! Men's ways, you say, are prone to find fault. What then? If someone who is asked does not answer, you say, he will be thought unlearned and dull. See, I question you, not about something in Cicero's books, whose sense perhaps their readers cannot track down, but about your own letter and the meaning of your words. For I ask why you did not say, “He who does not answer will be shown to be unlearned and dull,” but said rather, “He will be thought unlearned and dull,” unless because you yourself understand well enough that one who does not answer such things is not unlearned and dull, but is thought so. But I warn you that he who fears to be cut down by the tongues of such pruners as by pruning hooks is dry wood, and therefore is not merely “pruned,” that is, thought, unlearned and dull, but truly is so and is shown to be so.
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Summary: Augustine points out that Dioscorus fears only to be thought ignorant, and warns that one who fears such opinions is dry wood.
- Augustine puns on putare, “to think” and “to prune”: the “thinkers” (putatores) are also pruners, and dry wood is not pruned.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray letter; stray mark; stray punctuation): periculosum esse. iudicaui → periculosum esse iudicaui; cum tibi m nos → cum tibi nos; Ciceronis » libris → Ciceronis libris; linguis s tamquam → linguis tamquam.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 118.4 (CSEL 34.2:668–669; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/118-1/#p-118-4).
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118.5CSEL 34.2:669–670
Fortasse dixeris: Sed cum hebes animo non sim et praecipue non esse studeam, nolo hebes animo uel putari. recte; sed quo fine nolis, id quaero. quod enim in illis quaestionibus aperiendis tibi et explicandis nec nobis oneri esse dubitasti, hanc causam et hunc finem esse dixisti et tam necessarium, ut eam nimiam necessitatem appellares, ne scilicet de his interrogatus neque respondens ab hominibus ad uituperandum procliuibus indoctus et hebes puteris. ego autem quaero, hocine totum sit, cur a nobis ista desideres, an etiam indoctus et hebes putari propter aliud aliquid nolis. si hoc totum est, cernis, ut arbitror, hunc esse finem tam uehementis intentionis tuae, qua nobis quoque oneri es, ut fateris. quid autem a Dioscoro potest nobis esse oneri, nisi quod ipsum Dioscorum etiam nescientem onerat? quod non sentiet, nisi cum surgere uoluerit; atque utinam non sic alligentur haec onera, ut frustra etiam humeros conetur excutere! quod non ideo dico, quia istae discuntur quaestiones, sed quia tali fine discuntur. hunc enim finem certe iam sentis esse nugatorium, inanem, uentosum; habet et tumorem, sub quo etiam tabes gignitur, et pupulae mentis ad non uidendam opulentiam ueritatis offunditur. crede, sic est, mi Dioscore, ita te fruar in ipsa uoluntate et in ipsa. cuius umbra auerteris, dignitate ueritatis. unde enim tibi nisi uel hoc modo de hac re fidem faciam, non inuenio. non enim uides eam aut ullo modo, quam diu linguis humanis ruinosa gaudia construis, potes eam uidere.
Perhaps you will say: “But since I am not dull of mind, and strive especially not to be, I do not want even to be thought dull of mind.” Rightly; but for what end you do not want it, that is what I ask. For you said that the reason and the end for which you did not hesitate to be a burden to us in opening and explaining those questions to you was so necessary that you called it an excessive necessity: namely, lest, when questioned about them and not answering, you be thought unlearned and dull by men prone to find fault. But I ask whether this is the whole reason why you want these things from us, or whether you do not want to be thought unlearned and dull for some other reason as well. If this is the whole of it, you see, I think, that this is the end of your so vehement endeavor, by which you are a burden to us too, as you confess. But what burden can come to us from Dioscorus, except what burdens Dioscorus himself, even without his knowing it? He will not feel it until he wishes to rise; and would that these burdens may not be so tightly bound on that he tries in vain even to shake them off his shoulders! I do not say this because these questions are studied, but because they are studied for such an end. For you surely already feel that this end is trifling, empty, windy; it also has a swelling, under which a wasting disease is bred, and it spreads over the pupil of the mind so that it does not see the riches of truth. Believe me, it is so, my Dioscorus; so may I enjoy you in that very will and in that very dignity of truth from whose shadow you are turned away. For I find no other way than this to make you believe me on this matter. For you do not see the truth, nor can you see it in any way, as long as you build ruinous joys on human tongues.
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Summary: Augustine argues that studying merely to avoid being thought ignorant is an empty end that blinds the mind to the truth.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 118.5 (CSEL 34.2:669–670; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/118-1/#p-118-5).
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118.6CSEL 34.2:670–671
Si autem non ibi finis est harum actionum atque intentionis tuae, sed propter aliud aliquid indoctus et hebes non uis putari, quaero, quid illud sit. si propterea, ne angustior tibi aditus ad adquirendas temporales diuitias, uxorem impetrandam, honores capessendos et cetera huius modi praecipiti fluxu transcurrentia atque in se lapsos in imum rapientia, neque ad hunc finem tibi seruire nos decet, immo decet etiam hinc te amouere. non enim sic te prohibemus in incerto famae finem ponere, ut tamquam de Mincio in Eridanum emigres, quo te ipse fortasse Mincius etiam non emigrantem impingeret. cum enim non satiauerit auidum spiritum uanitas laudis humanae, quia nihil ad cibandum adfert nisi inane et inflatum, cogitur eam ipsa auiditas referre in aliud quasi uberius atque fructuosius; quod nihilo minus si temporali lapsu praeterfluit, ita est, quasi fluuius ducat in fluuium, ut non sit finis miseriae, quam diu finis officiorum nostrorum in re instabili conlocatur. in aliquo igitur firmo atque incommutabili bono te figere uolumus constantissimae intentionis domum et securissimam requiem omnis bonae atque honestae actionis tuae. an forte istam ipsam terrenam felicitatem, quam commemoraui, si prosperi rumoris aura aut etiam flatibus uela pandendo ad eam potueris peruenire, hanc etiam cogitas referre in aliud uerum et certum et plenum bonum? at mihi non uidetur atque omnino ipsa ueritas negat uel tantis ad se anfractibus, quae tam proxima est, uel tantis sumptibus, quae tam gratuita est, perueniri.
But if the end of these actions and of your endeavor is not there, but you do not want to be thought unlearned and dull for some other reason, I ask what that is. If it is so that your access may not be narrower to acquiring temporal riches, obtaining a wife, seizing honors, and other things of this kind that run past in a headlong flow and drag those who slip into them down to the depths, neither is it fitting that we serve you for this end; indeed, it is fitting rather to remove you from it. For we do not forbid you to set your end in the uncertainty of fame in order that you may emigrate, as it were, from the Mincius into the Eridanus, into which the Mincius itself might perhaps thrust you even if you did not emigrate. For when the vanity of human praise has not satisfied the greedy spirit, since it brings nothing for food but what is empty and puffed up, that very greed is compelled to turn it toward something else, as it were richer and more fruitful; and if this too flows past in temporal passing, it is as if one river led into another, so that there is no end of misery as long as the end of our duties is placed in an unstable thing. We wish, therefore, to fix in some firm and unchangeable good the home of your most constant endeavor and the most secure rest of all your good and honorable action. Or perhaps that very earthly happiness which I mentioned, if you could reach it by spreading your sails to the breeze, or even the gusts, of favorable rumor, you think of turning this too toward another good, true, certain, and full? But it does not seem so to me, and truth itself wholly denies that it is reached by such winding detours, when it is so near, or at such cost, when it is so free.
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Summary: Augustine warns that seeking fame as a means to wealth, marriage, or honors only leads from one unstable good to another, whereas the truth is near and free.
- The Mincius flows into the Po (Eridanus): passing from fame to worldly gain is moving from one river to a greater one.
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- Digital text corrected (OCR a for s; OCR h for n): noh ibi → non ibi; requiem omnia bonae → requiem omnis bonae.
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 118.6 (CSEL 34.2:670–671; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/118-1/#p-118-6).
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118.7CSEL 34.2:671–672
An ipsa humana laude tamquam instrumento utendum existimas, ut aditum per hanc praepares ad animos hominum persuadendi uera atque salubria, et caues, ne te, cum indoctum atque hebetem putauerint, indignum arbitrentur, cui aurem uel intentissimam uel patientissimam praebeant, siue ad recte facta quemquam exhorteris siue malitiam atque nequitiam peccantis obiurges? hunc tu finem iustitiae ac beneficentiae si in illis interrogandis quaestionibus cogitasti, nos de te male meruimus, quibus in epistula tua non id potius, quo moueremur, posuisti, ut aut libenter daremus, quod petebas, aut ideo non daremus, quia causa quaelibet alia fortasse prohiberet, non tamen quia tuae uanae cupiditati non solum seruire uerum etiam non resistere puderet. quanto enim melius atque salubrius, quaeso te, ipsas ueritatis regulas multo certius et breuius per se ipsas accipis, quibus falsa omnia possis ipse refellere, ne, quod falsum et pudendum est, si multorum annosas et decrepitas falsitates studio iactantiore quam prudentiore didiceris, doctum atque intellegentem te esse arbitreris! quod iam non existimo uideri tibi; non enim frustra tam diu tam uera Dioscoro diximus, ex quo in hac epistula gradimur.
Or do you think that human praise itself should be used as an instrument, so that through it you may prepare access to men's minds for persuading them of what is true and wholesome, and are you taking care lest, if they think you unlearned and dull, they judge you unworthy to receive from them an ear either most attentive or most patient, whether you are exhorting someone to right action or rebuking the malice and wickedness of a sinner? If you had this end of justice and beneficence in mind in asking those questions, it was unfair to us that in your letter you did not rather set this before us to move us, so that we might either gladly give what you asked or else decline because some other cause perhaps prevented us, but not because we were ashamed not only to serve your vain desire but even not to resist it. For how much better and more wholesome it is, I ask you, to receive the very rules of truth far more surely and briefly in themselves, by which you could refute everything false yourself, rather than to think yourself learned and intelligent, which is false and shameful, if you have learned the aged and decrepit falsehoods of many people with more ostentatious than prudent zeal! I do not think this now seems right to you; for not in vain have we said such true things to Dioscorus for so long, since the point from which we set out in this letter.
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Summary: Augustine argues that if Dioscorus wanted learning in order to win a hearing for the truth, he should rather learn the rules of truth themselves.
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- Digital text corrected (stray line number): 10 An ipsa → An ipsa.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 118.7 (CSEL 34.2:671–672; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/118-1/#p-118-7).
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118.8CSEL 34.2:672
Quapropter iam illud uideamus, cum te istarum rerum ignorantia nequaquam indoctum atque hebetem iudices sed ipsius potius ueritatis, ut, quisquis de his rebus scripsit uel scripserit, aut ea sint, quae iam certus tenes, aut, si falsa sunt, securus ignores neque de diuersitate cognoscenda sententiarum alienarum, quasi ne indoctus et hebes remaneas, inani sollicitudine macereris, — cum ergo haec ita sint, etiam illud, si placet, uideamus, utrum aliorum falsa existimatio, qui sunt, ut scribis, ad uituperandum procliues, ita ut, si te ista ignorare persenserint, indoctum atque hebetem falso quidem sed tamen putent, sic te mouere debeat ut etiam ab episcopis tibi haec exponi non incongruenter petas, quando quidem eo fine iam te ista cupere credimus, quo illis consulas ad persuadendam ueritatem uitamque eorum corrigendam, qui te, si in illis Ciceronis libris indoctum hebetemque putauerint, indignum habebunt, a quo aliquid utilis salubrisque scientiae sibi accipiendum esse arbitrentur.
Therefore let us now consider this. Since you judge that a man is by no means unlearned and dull through ignorance of these things, but rather through ignorance of the truth itself, so that, whoever has written or will write about these matters, either the things are what you already hold for certain, or, if they are false, you are untroubled not to know them, and you need not waste away with empty anxiety about learning the diversity of other men's opinions, as though to avoid remaining unlearned and dull; since this is so, let us also consider, if you please, whether the false opinion of others, who are, as you write, prone to find fault, so that if they perceived you were ignorant of these things they would think you unlearned and dull, falsely indeed but still think it, ought to move you so much that you may not unfittingly ask even bishops to expound these things to you. For we now believe that you desire these things for this end, that you may help those people by persuading them of the truth and correcting their lives, who, if they thought you unlearned and dull about those books of Cicero, would consider you unworthy to be someone from whom they should receive any useful and wholesome knowledge.
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Summary: Augustine asks whether the false opinion of fault-finders should move Dioscorus to burden bishops with his questions.
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- Digital text corrected (stray punctuation): etiam. illud → etiam illud.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 118.8 (CSEL 34.2:672; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/118-1/#p-118-8).
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118.9CSEL 34.2:672–674
Quod non ita est — mihi crede —, primum quia esse aliquos in illis terris, ubi inperitus minimeque acutus uideri times, qui te de istis quaestionibus quicquam interrogent, omnino non uideo, quando quidem hic, quo ad ea discenda uenisti, et Romae expertus es, quam neglegenter habeantur et ob hoc neque doceantur neque discantur; et in Africa usque adeo de his interrogatorem pateris neminem, ut nec te ipsum quis patiatur inuenias eaque inopia episcopis exponenda ea mittere cogaris, quasi uero isti episcopi, etiam si adulescentes eodem, quo tu raperis, animi ardore uel potius errore quasi aliquid magnum haec discere curarunt, usque ad canos episcopales et usque ad cathedras ecclesiasticas ea sibi in memoria durare paterentur aut, si ipsi uellent, non illa etiam de inuitorum cordibus curae maiores grauioresque secluderent aut, si aliqua ex eis in animis eorum nimia consuetudine remanerent, non etiam ipsa obliuione sepelire mallent recordata quam ineptia respondere quaesita, cum in ipsa etiam scholari leuitate et rhetoricis cathedris ita obmutuisse atque obtorpuisse uideantur, ut a Carthagine Hipponem, quo exponi possint, mittenda existimentur, ubi tam insolita atque omnino peregrina sunt, ut, si uellem respondendi cura inspicere aliquid uolens uidere, quo modo ad sententiam, quae mihi exponenda esset, desuper ueniatur aut ab ea deinceps quae contexeretur oratio, codicem prorsus inuenire non possem. illi autem Carthaginienses rhetores si huic tuo studio defuerunt, non modo a me non reprehenduntur, sed etiam adprobantur, si forte iam recolunt non Romanorum fororum sed Graecorum gymnasiorum ista solere esse certamina. tu uero cum et in gymnasia cogitationem iniecisti et ea quoque ipsa inuenisti talibus rebus nuda atque frigida, ubi has curas tuas deponeres, Christianorum tibi basilica Hipponiensis occurrit, quia in ea nunc sedet episcopus, qui aliquando ista pueris uendidit. sed nec te uolo esse adhuc puerum et me iam esse puerilium rerum sicut non uenditorem ita nec largitorem decet. quae cum ita sint, id est cum duae tantae urbes Latinarum litterarum artifices, Roma atque Carthago, nec taedio tibi sint, ut a te ista perquirant, nec taedia tua curent, ut te ista perquirentem exaudiant, miror tantum, quantum dici non potest, uereri te, tam boni ingenii iuuenem, ne in Graecis atque orientalibus urbibus quemquam de his rebus molestum interrogatorem feras. facilius quippe corniculas in Africa audieris quam in illis partibus hoc genus uocis.
That is not so, believe me. First, because I do not see at all that there are any people in those lands where you fear to seem unskilled and not at all sharp who would question you about these questions, since you have experienced both here, where you came to learn them, and at Rome how negligently they are regarded, and that for this reason they are neither taught nor learned; and in Africa you suffer from such a lack of anyone to question you about them that you find no one to put up with you yourself, and by that dearth you are compelled to send them to bishops to be expounded; as if these bishops, even if as young men they took care, with the same ardor, or rather error, of mind by which you are carried away, to learn these things as something great, would suffer them to last in their memory down to their episcopal grey hairs and their church chairs; or, if they themselves wished it, as if greater and graver cares would not shut these things out of their hearts even against their will; or, if some of them remained in their minds through excessive habit, as if they would not prefer to bury them in oblivion once remembered rather than answer questions about them with ineptitude. Indeed, even in the frivolity of the schools and in the chairs of rhetoric they seem to have fallen so silent and torpid that they are thought to need sending from Carthage to Hippo to be expounded, where they are so unusual and wholly foreign that, if in my care to answer I wanted to look up something, to see how the passage to be expounded is reached from what precedes, or what discourse is connected with it afterward, I could not find a copy at all. But those rhetoricians of Carthage, if they failed this zeal of yours, are not only not blamed by me but are even approved, if perhaps they now recall that these used to be the contests not of the Roman forums but of the Greek gymnasia. But you, when you had cast your thoughts toward the gymnasia too and found them also bare and cold in such things, thought of the Christian basilica of Hippo as the place to lay down these cares of yours, because a bishop now sits in it who once sold these things to boys. But I do not want you still to be a boy; and it is not fitting for me now, as I am no longer a seller of boyish things, to be a giver of them either. Since this is so, that is, since two such great cities, masters of Latin letters, Rome and Carthage, neither are troubled to question you about these things nor care about your troubles so as to listen to you when you inquire about them, I wonder beyond words that you, a young man of such good intellect, fear that in Greek and Eastern cities you may have to bear some troublesome questioner about these matters. You would sooner hear crows in Africa than this kind of talk in those parts.
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Summary: Augustine observes that no one in Rome, Carthage, or the Greek East cares about such questions, and that he himself, once a teacher of rhetoric, no longer deals in boyish things.
- Augustine had taught rhetoric before his conversion.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 118.9 (CSEL 34.2:672–674; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/118-1/#p-118-9).
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118.10CSEL 34.2:674–675
Deinde si fallor et quisquam ibi forte huius modi quaestionum tanto utique odiosior quanto in illis locis ineptior percontator extiterit, nonne magis caues, ne multo facilius existant, qui te Graeci homines in Graecia constitutum et Graeca inbutum primitus lingua de ipsis philosophorum libris aliqua interrogent, quae Cicero in suis litteris non posuit? quod si acciderit, quid responsurus es? potius te ista in Latinorum auctorum libris quam in Graecorum nosse uoluisse? qua responsione primo Graeciae facies iniuriam et nosti, quam illi homines hoc non ferant; deinde iam exulcerati et irati quam cito te, quod nimis non uis, et hebetem iudicabunt, qui Graecorum philosophorum dogmata uel potius dogmatum particulas quasdam discerptas atque dispersas in Latinis dialogis quam in ipsorum auctorum libris Graecis tota atque contexta discere maluisti, et indoctum, qui cum tam multa in tua lingua nescias, earum rerum frusta in aliena colligere ambisti! an forte illud respondebis, non te Graecos de his rebus libros contempsisse sed prius Latinos curasse cognoscere, nunc autem uelle te in Latinis doctum Graeca iam quaerere? si hoc non pudet, hominem Graecum Latina puerum didicisse, nunc uelle discere Graeca barbatum, pudebitne tandem in ipsis Latinis ignorare aliqua, quae quam multi Latini docti tecum nesciant, uel hoc ipso sentis, quod te nobis magna necessitate dicis onerosum in tanta doctorum multitudine apud Carthaginem constitutus?
Then, if I am wrong and someone there perhaps should turn up who asks questions of this kind (the more odious, surely, the more out of place in those regions), should you not rather beware that there will much more easily turn up Greeks who will question you, now settled in Greece and brought up first in the Greek tongue, about things in the actual books of the philosophers which Cicero did not put in his writings? If that happens, what will you answer? That you preferred to know these things from the books of Latin authors rather than of Greek? By that answer you will first insult Greece, and you know how those men do not bear that; then, already sore and angry, how quickly they will judge you, what you so much do not want, both dull, since you preferred to learn the doctrines of the Greek philosophers, or rather certain torn and scattered fragments of doctrines, from Latin dialogues rather than whole and connected in the Greek books of the authors themselves, and unlearned, since, not knowing so many things in your own language, you sought to collect scraps of these matters in a foreign one! Or perhaps you will answer that you did not despise the Greek books on these matters but took care to know the Latin first, and now, learned in Latin, want to seek the Greek? If you are not ashamed of this, that a Greek learned Latin as a boy and now wants to learn Greek as a bearded man, will you then be ashamed to be ignorant of some things in Latin itself, of which you may perceive how many learned Latins are as ignorant as you from this very fact, that you say you are burdening us out of great necessity, though you are living at Carthage among so great a multitude of learned men?
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Summary: Augustine warns Dioscorus that in Greece he would rather be blamed for learning Greek philosophy from Latin dialogues instead of the Greek originals.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 118.10 (CSEL 34.2:674–675; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/118-1/#p-118-10).
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118.11CSEL 34.2:675–676
Postremo fac te de omnibus, quae a nobis quaeris, interrogatum respondere potuisse. ecce iam doctissimus atque acutissimus diceris, ecce iam te laudibus in caelum Graeculus flatus adtollit; tu tantum memento grauitatis tuae et illam mereri laudem quo fine uolueris, ut scilicet eos leuiter leuia ista miratos et beniuolentissime atque auidissime iam in tua ora suspensos grauissimum aliquid et saluberrimum doceas. id ipsum, quicquid est grauissimum et saluberrimum, utrum teneas et recte tradere noueris, uellem cognoscere. ridiculum est enim, cum propterea superflua multa didiceris, ut tibi aures hominum ad necessaria praeparentur, ipsa necessaria non tenere, quibus excipiendis eas per superflua praeparaueris, et, dum occuparis, ut discas, unde facias intentos, nolle discere, quod infundatur intentis. sed si hoc te scire iam dicis idque ipsum Christianam doctrinam esse respondes, quam te omnibus praeponere nouimus et in ea sola esse praesumere spem salutis aeternae, non opus est ei cognitione dialogorum Ciceronis et collectione emendicatarum discordantium sententiarum alienarum procurari auditores. moribus tuis intenti fiant, qui abs te aliquid tale accepturi sunt. nolo prius aliquid doceas, quod dediscendum est, ut uera doceas.
Finally, suppose that, when questioned about everything you ask us, you have been able to answer. See, now you are called most learned and most acute; see, now a little Greek puff of breath raises you to the skies with praise. Only remember your seriousness, and the end for which you wanted to earn that praise: namely, that you may teach something most serious and wholesome to those who lightly admired these light things and now hang most benevolently and eagerly on your lips. Whether you hold that very thing, whatever is most serious and wholesome, and know how to hand it on rightly, I should like to know. For it is ridiculous, when you have learned many superfluous things so that men's ears may be prepared for you to hear necessary things, not to hold the necessary things themselves, for receiving which you prepared their ears by the superfluous; and, while you are busy learning how to make them attentive, to be unwilling to learn what is to be poured into them once they are attentive. But if you say that you already know this, and answer that this is the Christian teaching, which we know you set above everything and in which alone you hold that the hope of eternal salvation lies, it has no need of a knowledge of Cicero's dialogues and a collection of other men's begged and discordant opinions to procure hearers. Let those who are to receive anything of the kind from you be made attentive by your conduct. I do not want you first to teach something that must be unlearned, in order to teach the truth.
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Summary: Augustine tells Dioscorus that Christian teaching needs no knowledge of Cicero to win hearers; his conduct should make them attentive.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 118.11 (CSEL 34.2:675–676; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/118-1/#p-118-11).
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118.12CSEL 34.2:676–677
Nam si alienarum sententiarum dissidentium et repugnantium cognitio aliquid adiuuat insinuatorem Christianae ueritatis, ut nouerit, quo modo aduersantes destruat falsitates ad hoc dum taxat, ne quis contra disserens nonnisi in refellendis tuis figat oculum, sua uero sedulo occultet, nam cognitio ueritatis omnia falsa, si modo proferantur, etiam quae prius inaudita erant, et diiudicare et subuertere idonea est, — sed, ut non solum aperta feriantur, sed etiam abscondita eruantur, si alienos opus est cognoscere errores, erige oculos auresque, oro te, et uide atque ausculta, utrum aliquis aduersus nos de Anaximene et de Anaxagora proferat aliquid, quando iam ne ipsorum quidem multo recentiorum multumque loquacium Stoicorum aut Epicureorum cineres caleant, unde aliqua contra fidem Christianam scintilla excitetur. sed circuli atque conuenticula partim fugacia partim etiam audaciter prompta uel Donatistarum uel Maximianensium uel Manichaeorum uel etiam, ad quorum greges turbamque uenturus es, Arrianorum, Eunomianorum, Macedonianorum, Cataphrygarum ceterarumque pestium innumerabiliter perstrepant. quorum omnium errores si cognoscere piget, quid nobis est propter defensionem Christianae religionis quaerere, quid senserit Anaximenes, et olim sopitas lites inani curiositate recoquere, cum quorundam etiam haereticorum, qui nomine Christiano gloriari noluerunt, ut Marcionistarum et Sabellianorum multorumque praeterea iam dissensiones quaestionesque sileantur? tamen si opus est, ut dixi, ueritati aduersantes praenoscere aliquas et pertractatas habere sententias, de haereticis potius, qui se Christianos uocant, quam de Anaxagora et Democrito nobis cogitandum fuit.
For if knowledge of other men's dissenting and conflicting opinions helps somewhat the one who introduces Christian truth, so that he knows how to destroy the falsehoods opposed to it, this is only so that no one arguing against him may fix his eye solely on refuting your views while carefully hiding his own; for knowledge of the truth is able to judge and overturn all falsehoods, if only they are brought forward, even those not heard of before. But so that not only open errors may be struck down but hidden ones dug out too, if one needs to know other men's errors, lift up your eyes and ears, I beg you, and see and listen whether anyone brings anything against us from Anaximenes and Anaxagoras, when not even the ashes of the much more recent and very talkative Stoics or Epicureans are still warm enough for any spark to be kindled from them against the Christian faith. But the circles and small gatherings, partly furtive, partly boldly open, of the Donatists, or Maximianists, or Manichaeans, or also, to whose flocks and crowds you are now going, of the Arians, Eunomians, Macedonians, Cataphrygians, and the other plagues without number, make a din. If it is irksome to learn the errors of all these, what need have we, for the defense of the Christian religion, to inquire what Anaximenes thought, and with empty curiosity to recook quarrels long put to sleep, when even the dissensions and questions of certain heretics who chose to glory in the Christian name, such as the Marcionites and Sabellians and many others besides, have now fallen silent? Yet if, as I said, it is necessary to know in advance and to have examined some opinions opposed to the truth, we ought to have thought about the heretics who call themselves Christians rather than about Anaxagoras and Democritus.
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Summary: Augustine argues that the defender of the faith should study the living heresies of his day rather than long-dead philosophers.
- The text prints “noluerunt” (“chose not to glory”); the sense requires “uoluerunt” (“chose to glory”), which is translated.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 118.12 (CSEL 34.2:676–677; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/118-1/#p-118-12).
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118.13CSEL 34.2:677–678
Ille autem, quisquis abs te quaesierit, quae tu a nobis quaeris, audiat, quod ea doctius et prudentius nescias. si enim Themistocles non curauit, quod est habitus indoctior, cum canere neruis in epulis recusasset, ubi cum se nescire illa dixisset eique dictum esset: Quid igitur nosti? respondit: Rem publicam ex parua magnam facere, dubitandum tibi est dicere te ista nescire, cum ei, qui rogarit, quid noueris, respondere possis nosse te, quo modo etiam sine istis homo esse possit beatus? quod si adhuc non tenes, tam peruerse ista conquiris, quam peruerse, si aliquo corporis periculoso morbo grauareris, deliciosas et tenerrimas uestes potius quam medicamenta medicosque conquireres. non enim ullo modo differenda est ista cognitio aut illa huic a te praesertim iam in hac aetate uel discendi ordine praeferenda est. uide autem, quam facile posses hoc scire, si uelles. qui enim quaerit, qua ad beatam uitam perueniat, nihil aliud profecto quaerit, nisi ubi sit finis boni, hoc est ubi constitutum sit non praua opinione atque temeraria sed certa atque inconcussa ueritate summum hominis bonum. quod a quolibet, ubi constituatur, non inuenitur nisi aut in corpore aut in animo aut in deo aut in duobus aliquibus horum aut certe in omnibus. quod si didiceris neque summum bonum neque aliquam partem summi boni omnino esse in corpore, duo restabunt, animus et deus, quorum uel in uno uel in ambobus sit. si autem adieceris et didiceris hoc idem de animo quod de corpore, quid aliud iam nisi deus occurret, in quo summum hominis bonum constitutum sit, non quo alia bona non sint, sed summum id dicitur, quo cuncta referuntur; eo enim fruendo quisque beatus est, propter quod cetera uult habere, cum illud iam non propter aliud sed propter se ipsum diligatur, et ideo finis ibi dicitur, quia iam, quo excurrat et quo referatur, non inuenitur, ibi requies appetendi, ibi fruendi securitas, ibi tranquillissimum gaudium optimae uoluntatis.
But whoever asks you the things you ask us, let him hear that you are more learned and prudent in not knowing them. For if Themistocles did not care that he was considered rather unlearned when he refused to play the lyre at a banquet, and, when he had said that he did not know how and was asked, “What then do you know?”, answered, “How to make a state great from a small one,” should you hesitate to say that you do not know these things, when to one who asks what you know you can answer that you know how a man can be happy even without them? But if you do not yet hold this, you seek these things as perversely as you would, if you were weighed down by some dangerous bodily disease, seek luxurious and very delicate garments rather than medicines and doctors. For in no way is that knowledge to be put off, or this other to be preferred to it by you, especially at your present age, even in the order of learning. But see how easily you could know this if you wished. For he who seeks the way to reach the happy life is surely seeking nothing else than where the end of good is, that is, where the highest good of man is placed, not by depraved and rash opinion but by certain and unshaken truth. And no one finds it placed anywhere but either in the body or in the mind or in God, or in some two of these, or indeed in all. If you have learned that neither the highest good nor any part of the highest good is in the body at all, two will remain, the mind and God, in one or both of which it lies. But if you go on to learn the same about the mind as about the body, what else will present itself but God, in whom the highest good of man is placed? Not that there are no other goods; but that is called the highest to which all are referred. For each person is happy by enjoying that for whose sake he wants to have the rest, since that is loved no longer for the sake of something else but for its own sake; and therefore it is called the end, because nothing further is found to which it runs on or is referred. There is the rest of desire, there the security of enjoyment, there the most tranquil joy of the best will.
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Summary: Augustine shows Dioscorus that the knowledge needed is how to be happy: the highest good lies not in the body or the mind but in God.
- The story of Themistocles is told by Cicero, Tusculan Disputations 1.4.
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- Digital text corrected (stray mark): fruendi » securitas → fruendi securitas.
Extrabiblical texts: Cicero, Tusc. 1.4 (Cicero; allusion)
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 118.13 (CSEL 34.2:677–678; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/118-1/#p-118-13).
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118.14CSEL 34.2:678–679
Da igitur, qui cito uideat non corpus esse animi bonum, sed animum potius esse corporis bonum; recedetur iam ab inquirendo, utrum summum illud bonum uel aliqua pars eius sit in corpore. quod enim stultissime negatur, melior est animus corpore; item stultissime negatur meliorem esse eum, qui dat beatam uitam uel partem aliquam beatae uitae, quam eum, qui accipit; non igitur accipit animus a corpore uel summum bonum uel partem aliquam summi boni. hoc qui non uident caecati dulcedine carnalium uoluptatum, quam ei indigentia sanitatis uenire non intuentur — sanitas autem perfecta corporis illa extrema totius hominis inmortalitas erit; tam potenti enim natura deus fecit animam, ut ex eius plenissima beatitudine, quae in fine temporum sanctis promittitur, redundet etiam in inferiorem naturam, quod est corpus, non beatitudo, quae fruentis et intellegentis est propria, sed plenitudo sanitatis, id est incorruptionis uigor —, quod qui non uident, ut dixi, bellant inquietis altercationibus uarie pro suo quisque captu in corpore constituentes summum hominis bonum et carnalium seditiosorum turbas concitant; inter quos Epicurei apud indoctam multitudinem excellentiore auctoritate uiguerunt.
Grant, then, someone who quickly sees that the body is not the good of the mind, but rather that the mind is the good of the body; then one will give up inquiring whether that highest good, or any part of it, is in the body. For it is most foolish to deny that the mind is better than the body; likewise it is most foolish to deny that he who gives the happy life, or some part of the happy life, is better than he who receives it; therefore the mind does not receive from the body either the highest good or any part of the highest good. Those who do not see this, blinded by the sweetness of carnal pleasures, do not perceive that it comes to them from a lack of health. (The perfect health of the body will be that final immortality of the whole man; for God made the soul of so powerful a nature that from its fullest blessedness, which is promised to the saints at the end of time, there overflows into the lower nature too, which is the body, not blessedness, which belongs properly to the one who enjoys and understands, but fullness of health, that is, the vigor of incorruption.) Those, I say, who do not see this wage war with restless disputes, each according to his capacity placing the highest good of man in the body in different ways, and they stir up mobs of carnal rebels; among them the Epicureans flourished with greater authority among the unlearned multitude.
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Summary: Augustine argues that the highest good cannot be in the body, since the mind is better than the body, and notes the Epicureans who placed it there.
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- Digital text corrected (stray mark; stray marks): : Da igitur → Da igitur; non I) beatitudo → non beatitudo.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 118.14 (CSEL 34.2:678–679; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/118-1/#p-118-14).
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118.15CSEL 34.2:679–681
Da item, qui cito uideat animum quoque ipsum non suo bono beatum esse, cum beatus est, alioquin numquam esset miser, et recedetur a quaerendo, utrum in animo sit summum illud atque, ut ita dixerim, beatificum bonum uel aliqua pars eius. nam cum se ipso sibi quasi suo bono animus gaudet, superbus est. cum uero perspicit se esse mutabilem uel hoc uno saltem, quod de stulto sapiens efficitur, sapientiamque esse incommutabilem cernit, simul oportet cernat esse illam supra suam naturam eiusque participatione atque inlustratione se uberius et certius gaudere quam se ipso. ita cessans atque detumescens a iactatione atque inflatione propria inhaerere deo atque ab illo incommutabili refici et reformari nititur, a quo esse iam capit non solum omnem speciem rerum omnium, siue quae sensu corporis siue quae intellegentia mentis adtinguntur, sed etiam ipsam capacitatem formationis ante formationem, cum uel informe aliquid dicitur, quod formari potest. itaque tanto minus se esse stabilem sentit, quanto minus haeret deo, qui summe est, et illum ideo summe esse, quia nulla mutabilitate proficit seu deficit; sibi autem illam commutationem expedire, qua proficit, ut perfecte illi cohaereat, eam uero commutationem, quae in defectu est, esse uitiosam; omnem autem defectum ad interitum uergere, quo utrum aliqua res perueniat, tametsi non apparet, tamen apparere omnibus eo ducere interitum, ut non sit, quod erat. unde colligit non ob aliud res deficere uel posse deficere, nisi quod ex nihilo factae sunt, ut, quod in eis est, quod sunt et manent et pro defectibus etiam suis ad uniuersitatis complexum ordinantur, ad eius bonitatem omnipotentiamque pertineat, qui summe est et conditor, qui potens est etiam ex nihilo non tantum aliquid sed etiam magnum aliquid facere; primum autem peccatum, hoc est primum uoluntarium defectum esse gaudere ad propriam potestatem; ad minus enim gaudet, quam si ad dei potestatem gaudeat, quae utique maior est. hoc non uidentes et potentias intuentes animi humani magnamque pulchritudinem factorum atque dictorum, etiam si in corpore puduit ponere summum bonum, in ipso tamen animo ponentes infra utique posuerunt, quam ubi sincerissima ratione ponendum est. inter hos, qui ita sentiunt apud Graecos philosophos, et numero et disputandi subtilitate Stoici praeualuerunt, qui tamen in naturalibus corporea omnia esse arbitrantes magis a carne quam a corpore animum auertere potuerunt.
Grant likewise someone who quickly sees that the mind itself, too, is not happy by its own good when it is happy, otherwise it would never be miserable; then one will give up inquiring whether that highest and, so to speak, beatifying good, or any part of it, is in the mind. For when the mind rejoices in itself as its own good, it is proud. But when it perceives that it is changeable, if only by this one fact, that from foolish it is made wise, and discerns that wisdom is unchangeable, it must at the same time discern that wisdom is above its own nature and that it rejoices more richly and surely by participation in it and illumination by it than by itself. So, ceasing and subsiding from its own boasting and inflation, it strives to cling to God and to be refreshed and reformed by that unchangeable one, from whom it now grasps that there comes not only every form of all things, whether those reached by the sense of the body or by the understanding of the mind, but even the very capacity for being formed, before formation, as when something formless is spoken of that can be formed. And so it feels that it is the less stable the less it clings to God, who supremely is; and that he supremely is because he neither advances nor declines by any change; but that for itself that change is beneficial by which it advances so as to cleave to him perfectly, whereas the change that consists in falling away is vicious; and that every falling away tends toward destruction; and although it is not evident whether anything actually reaches that point, yet it is evident to all that destruction leads to this, that a thing is not what it was. Hence it gathers that things fall away or can fall away for no other reason than that they were made from nothing; so that whatever in them is, namely that they exist and endure and, even in their failings, are ordered into the embrace of the universe, belongs to the goodness and omnipotence of him who supremely is and is the creator, who is able to make from nothing not only something but even something great; and that the first sin, that is, the first voluntary falling away, is to rejoice in one's own power; for it rejoices in something less than if it rejoiced in the power of God, which is certainly greater. Those who do not see this, and look at the powers of the human mind and the great beauty of its deeds and words, even if they were ashamed to place the highest good in the body, yet, by placing it in the mind itself, placed it lower than where it should be placed by the purest reason. Among the Greek philosophers who think thus, the Stoics prevailed both in number and in subtlety of argument; yet they, holding in natural philosophy that all things are corporeal, were able to turn the mind away from the flesh rather than from the body.
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Summary: Augustine argues that the mind is not its own highest good, since it is changeable and made wise by the unchangeable Wisdom, which is God; the Stoics erred in placing the good in the mind.
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- Digital text corrected (stray mark): potuerunt. » → potuerunt..
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 118.15 (CSEL 34.2:679–681; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/118-1/#p-118-15).
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Goldbacher (CSEL 34, 44, 57; 1895–1911); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation of J. G. Cunningham in NPNF¹ 1 (1886) where it exists; letters it lacks or summarizes were re-read against the Latin.