Letters 165.1–166.17
Latin text: Goldbacher, CSEL 34, 44, 57 (Latin text: Alois Goldbacher (CSEL 34, 44, 57, 1895–1911), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 1 (1886).
Chapter 165
165.1CSEL 44:541–543
Tandem ex Africa uestrae litteras unanimitatis accepi et non me paenitet inpudentiae, qua tacentibus uobis epistulas meas frequenter ingessi, ut rescriptum mererer et uos esse sospites non aliis nuntiantibus sed uestro potissimum sermone cognoscerem. super animae statu memini uestrae quaestiunculae, immo maximae ecclesiasticae quaestionis, utrum lapsa de caelo sit, ut Pythagoras philosophus omnesque Platonici et Origenes putant, an anippoia dei substantiae, ut Stoici, Manichaeus et Hispana Priscilliani haeresis suspicantur, an in thesauro habeantur dei olim conditae, ut quidam ecclesiastici stulta persuasione confidunt, an cotidie a deo fiant et mittantur in corpora secundum illud, quod in euangelio scriptum est: Pater meus usque modo operatur et ego operor, an certe ex traduce, ut Tertullianus, Apollinaris et maxima pars occidentalium autumat, ut quo modo corpus ex corpore sic anima nascatur ex anima et simili cum brutis animantibus condicione subsistat. super quo quid mihi uideretur, in opusculis contra Rufinum olim scripsisse me noui aduersus eum libellum, quem sanctae memoriae Anastasio, episcopo Romanae ecclesiae, dedit, in quo lubrica et subdola, immo stulta confessione, dum auditorum simplicitati inludere nititur, suae fidei, immo perfidiae inlusit. quos libros reor sanctum parentem uestrum habere Oceanum; olim enim editi sunt multas Rufini libri aduersus nos calumnias respuentes. certe habes ibi uirum sanctum et eruditum Augustinum episcopum, qui uiua, ut aiunt, uoce docere te poterit et suam, immo per se nostram explicare sententiam.
At last I have received a letter from your Unanimity from Africa, and I do not regret the shamelessness with which, while you were silent, I frequently pressed my letters on you, so that I might deserve a reply and learn that you are safe not from the reports of others but above all from your own words. About the state of the soul, I remember your little question, or rather the very great question of the church: whether it fell from heaven, as the philosopher Pythagoras and all the Platonists and Origen think; or is an emanation of the substance of God, as the Stoics, Mani, and the Spanish heresy of Priscillian suppose; or whether souls are kept in a treasury of God, created long ago, as certain churchmen confidently hold by a foolish persuasion; or are made by God daily and sent into bodies, according to what is written in the gospel, "My Father is working until now, and I am working"; or certainly are by transmission, as Tertullian, Apollinaris, and the greater part of the Westerners hold, so that, as body is born from body, so soul is born from soul, and subsists in a condition like that of the brute animals. What I thought on this, I know I wrote long ago in my little works against Rufinus, against the booklet which he gave to Anastasius of holy memory, bishop of the Roman church, in which, with a slippery and crafty, or rather foolish, confession, while trying to make sport of the simplicity of his hearers, he made sport of his own faith, or rather faithlessness. I think your holy relative Oceanus has those books; for they were published long ago, refuting the many slanders of Rufinus's books against us. Certainly you have there the holy and learned man, Bishop Augustine, who can teach you with a living voice, as they say, and explain his opinion, or rather through himself ours.
John 5:17 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Jerome writes to Marcellinus and Anapsychia, listing the opinions on the origin of the soul, referring them to his works against Rufinus and to Augustine.
- Letter of Jerome to Marcellinus and his wife Anapsychia (ca. 410–412). "Emanation" reads the Greek ἀπόρροια, which the digital text garbles as "anippoia" (marked sic). Scripture: John 5:17. The polemic against Rufinus is Jerome's and is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip (t for f); stray period in the digital text): dei olim conditae. ut → dei olim conditae, ut; contra Rutinum → contra Rufinum; aduersus eum libellum. quem → aduersus eum libellum, quem.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 165.1 (CSEL 44:541–543; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-165-1).
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165.2CSEL 44:543–544
Ezechielis uolumen olim adgredi uolui et sponsionem creberrimam studiosis lectoribus reddere, sed in ipso dictandi exordio ita animus meus occidentalium prouinciarum et maxime urbis Romae uastatione confusus est, ut iuxta uulgare prouerbium proprium quoque ignorarem uocabulum, diuque tacui sciens tempus esse lacrimarum. hoc autem anno, cum tres explicassem libros, subitus impetus barbarorum, de quibus tuus dicit Vergilius: Lateque uagantes Barcaei et sancta scriptura de Ismahel: Contra faciem omnium fratrum suorum habitabit, sic Aegypti limitem, Palaestinae, Phoenices, Syriae percucurrit ad instar torrentis cuncta secum trahens, ut uix manus eorum misericordia Christi potuerimus euadere. quod si iuxta inclitum oratorem silent inter arma leges, quanto magis studia scripturarum, quae et librorum multitudine et silentio ac librariorum sedulitate, quodque uel proprium est, securitate et otio dictantium indigent! duos itaque libros misi sanctae filiae meae Fabiolae, quorum exempla, si uolueris, ab ipsa poteris mutuari; pro angustia quippe temporis alios describere non potui. quos cum legeris et uestibula uideris, facilis coniectura erit, qualis ipsa futura sit domus. sed credo in dei misericordia, qui nos adiuuit in difficillimo principio supra dicti operis, quod ipse adiuuet et in paene ultimis prophetae partibus, in quibus Gog et Magog bella narrantur, et in extremis, in quibus sacratissimi et inexplicabilis templi aedificatio, uarietas mensuraque describitur.
I long ago wished to undertake the volume of Ezekiel and fulfill a promise very often made to studious readers; but at the very beginning of dictating, my mind was so confounded by the devastation of the western provinces and above all of the city of Rome that, as the common proverb says, I did not know even my own name; and I was long silent, knowing that it was a time for tears. But this year, when I had finished three books, a sudden onslaught of the barbarians, of whom your Virgil says, "and the Barcaei raging far and wide," and holy Scripture of Ishmael, "He shall dwell over against all his brothers," so overran the borders of Egypt, Palestine, Phoenicia, and Syria, like a torrent sweeping all before it, that by the mercy of Christ we could scarcely escape their hands. But if, as the famous orator says, laws are silent amid arms, how much more the study of the Scriptures, which needs a multitude of books, silence, and the diligence of copyists, and, what is most essential, security and leisure for those who dictate! I have therefore sent two books to my holy daughter Fabiola, copies of which you can borrow from her if you wish; for owing to the shortness of time I could not have others written out. When you read them and see the entrance halls, it will be easy to guess what the house itself will be like. But I trust in the mercy of God, who helped us in the very difficult beginning of the aforesaid work, that he will help also in the last parts of the prophet, in which the wars of Gog and Magog are narrated, and in the final parts, in which the building, variety, and measurement of the most sacred and inexplicable temple are described.
Gen 16:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Ezek 38:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Ezek 40:2 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Jerome explains that the sack of Rome and barbarian raids in the East have interrupted his Commentary on Ezekiel, of which he has sent two books to Fabiola.
- Virgil, Aeneid 4.42–43 (Jerome's text reads "uagantes" for "furentes"); Cicero, Pro Milone 11; Gen 16:12; Ezek 38–39; Ezek 40–48. The "Fabiola" named here cannot be the Fabiola who died in 399; perhaps another person or a slip; uncertain.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (letter-spaced text and OCR slip in the digital text; stray period in the digital text): s u o r u u h a b i t a b i t → suorum habitabit; Gog. et Magog → Gog et Magog.
Extrabiblical texts: Virgil, Aen. 4.42–43 (Virgil; quotation); Cicero, Mil. 11 (Cicero; allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 165.2 (CSEL 44:543–544; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-165-2).
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165.3CSEL 44:544–545
Sanctus frater noster Oceanus, cui uos cupitis commendari, tantus ac talis est et sic eruditus in lege domini, ut absque nostro rogatu instruere uos possit et nostram super cunctis quaestionibus scripturarum pro modulo communis ingenii explicare sententiam. incolumes uos et prolixa aetate florentes Christus deus noster tueatur omnipotens, domini uere sancti.
Our holy brother Oceanus, to whom you wish to be commended, is so great and of such a kind, and so learned in the law of the Lord, that without our asking he can instruct you and explain our opinion on all questions of the Scriptures, according to the measure of our common understanding. May Christ our God, the Almighty, keep you safe and flourishing to a long age, truly holy lords.
Notes and citation
Summary: Jerome commends Oceanus as able to instruct them and closes with a blessing.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 165.3 (CSEL 44:544–545; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-165-3).
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Chapter 166
166.1CSEL 44:545–547
Deum nostrum, qui nos uocauit in suum regnum et gloriam, et rogaui et rogo, ut hoc, quod ad te scribo, sancte frater Hieronyme, consulens te de his, quae nescio, fructuosum esse nobis uelit. quamquam enim te multo quam ego sum, aetate maiorem tamen etiam ipse iam senex consulo; sed ad discendum, quod opus est, nulla mihi aetas sera uideri potest, quia, etsi senes magis decet docere quam discere, magis tamen discere quam, quid doceant, ignorare. nihil equidem molestius fero in omnibus angustiis meis, quas patior in difficillimis quaestionibus, quam in tam longinquo tuae caritatis absentiam, ut uix possim meas dare, uix recipere litteras tuas per interualla non dierum, non mensium sed aliquot annorum. cum, si fieri posset, cotidie praesentem te habere uellem, cum quo loquerer, quicquid uellem. nec ideo tamen non debui facere, quod potui, si non potui totum, quod uolui.
I have asked, and I ask, our God, who has called us into his kingdom and glory, that he may will this letter which I write to you, holy brother Jerome, consulting you about things I do not know, to be fruitful for us. For although I consult you as one much older than I am, I too am already an old man; but for learning what is needful no age can seem to me too late, because, though it befits old men more to teach than to learn, it befits them more to learn than to be ignorant of what they should teach. Nothing indeed do I bear more grievously in all my difficulties, which I suffer in the hardest questions, than the absence of your love at so great a distance, so that I can scarcely send my letters or receive yours at intervals not of days, not of months, but of several years; whereas, if it were possible, I would wish to have you present every day, to talk with you about whatever I wished. Yet I ought not on that account to fail to do what I could, even if I could not do all that I wished.
1 Thess 2:12 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine writes to Jerome to consult him, as an old man still eager to learn, regretting the distance between them.
- Letter of Augustine to Jerome, sent by Orosius (415), "On the origin of the soul". Scripture: 1 Thess 2:12.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip (u for n); stray period in the digital text): te multo. quam ego sum → te multo quam ego sum; quam discere. magis tamen → quam discere, magis tamen; si uon potui → si non potui.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.1 (CSEL 44:545–547; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-166-1).
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166.2CSEL 44:547–548
Ecce uenit ad me religiosus iuuenis catholica pace frater, aetate filius, honore conpresbyter noster Orosius uigil ingenio, paratus eloquio, flagrans studio, utile uas in domo domini esse desiderans ad refellendas falsas perniciosasque doctrinas, quae animas Hispanorum multo infelicius quam corpora barbaricus gladius trucidarunt. nam inde ad nos usque ab Oceani litore properauit fama excitus, quod a me posset de his, quae scire uellet, quicquid uellet, audire. neque nullum cepit aduentus sui fructum: primo, ne de me multum famae crederet; deinde docui hominem, quod potui, quod autem non potui, unde discere posset, admonui atque, ut ad te iret, hortatus sum. qua in re consilium uel praeceptum meum cum libenter et oboedienter acciperet, rogaui eum, ut abs te ueniens per nos ad propria remearet. quam eius pollicitationem tenens occasionem mihi credidi a domino esse concessam, qua tibi scriberem de his, quae per te scire cupio. quaerebam enim, quem ad te mitterem, nec mihi facile occurrebat idoneus et fide agendi et alacritate oboediendi et exercitatione peregrinandi. ubi ergo istum iuuenem expertus sum, eum ipsum esse, qualem a domino petebam, dubitare non potui.
Behold, there has come to me a religious young man, a brother in Catholic peace, a son in age, in honor our fellow presbyter, Orosius, alert in mind, ready in speech, burning with zeal, desiring to be a useful vessel in the house of the Lord for refuting the false and pernicious doctrines which have slaughtered the souls of the Spaniards far more unhappily than the barbarian sword their bodies. For he hastened from there, from the shore of the Ocean, all the way to us, roused by the report that he could hear from me whatever he wished about the things he wished to know. And his coming has not been without some fruit: first, that he should not believe much of the report about me; then, I taught the man what I could, and, as for what I could not, I told him where he could learn it and urged him to go to you. When he accepted this counsel or instruction of mine willingly and obediently, I asked him, on his way back from you, to return home by way of us. Holding him to this promise, I believed that an opportunity had been granted me by the Lord to write to you about the things I desire to know through you. For I was looking for someone to send to you, and no one suitable readily occurred to me, both in faithfulness in acting, readiness in obeying, and experience in traveling. When, then, I had tested this young man, I could not doubt that he was just the kind of man I was asking the Lord for.
2 Tim 2:21 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine introduces Orosius, a young Spanish presbyter fighting heresies in Spain, whom he has sent on to Jerome as the bearer of this letter.
- Scripture: 2 Tim 2:21. The "false doctrines" in Spain are those of the Priscillianists and Origenists.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.2 (CSEL 44:547–548; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-166-2).
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166.3CSEL 44:548–550
Accipe igitur, quae mihi peto aperire ac disserere non graueris. quaestio de anima multos mouet, in quibus et me esse confiteor. nam quid de anima firmissime teneam, non tacebo; deinde subiungam, quid mihi adhuc expediri uelim. anima hominis inmortalis est secundum quendam modum suum; non enim omni modo sicut deus, de quo dictum est, quod solus habeat inmortalitatem; nam de animae mortibus sancta scriptura multa commemorat, unde illud est: Sine mortuos sepelire mortuos suos. sed quod ita moritur alienata a uita dei, ut tamen in natura sua uiuere non omnino desistat, ita mortalis ex aliqua causa inuenitur, ut etiam inmortalis non sine ratione dicatur. non est pars dei anima. si enim hoc esset, omni modo incommutabilis atque incorruptibilis esset quod si esset, nec deficeret in deterius nec proficeret in melius nec aliquid in semet ipsa uel inciperet habere, quod non habebat, uel desineret habere, quod habebat, quantum ad eius ipsius affectiones pertinet. quam uero aliter se habeat, non opus est extrinsecus testimonio; quisquis se ipsum aduertit, agnoscit. frustra autem dicitur ab eis, qui animam dei esse partem uolunt, hanc eius labem ac turpitudinem, quam uidemus in nequissimis hominibus, hanc denique infirmitatem et aegritudinem, quam sentimus in omnibus hominibus, non ex ipsa illi esse sed ex corpore. quid interest, unde aegrotet, quae si esset incommutabilis, unde libet aegrotare non posset? nam quod uere incommutabile et incorruptibile est, nullius rei accessu commutari uel corrumpi potest; alioquin non Achillea tantum, sicut fabulae ferunt, sed omnis caro esset inuulnerabilis, si nullus ei casus accideret. non est itaque natura incommutabilis, quae aliquo modo, aliqua causa, aliqua parte mutabilis est. deum autem nefas est nisi uere summeque incommutabilem credere. non est igitur anima pars dei.
Receive, then, what I ask you not to mind opening and discussing for me. The question about the soul troubles many, among whom I confess that I too am. For I shall not be silent about what I hold most firmly about the soul; then I shall add what I still wish to have explained to me. The soul of man is immortal according to a certain manner of its own; for it is not immortal in every way, as God is, of whom it was said that he alone has immortality; for holy Scripture mentions many deaths of the soul, whence the saying: "Let the dead bury their own dead." But because it dies, estranged from the life of God, in such a way that it does not altogether cease to live in its own nature, it is found mortal for some reason in such a way that it is also not without reason called immortal. The soul is not a part of God. For if it were, it would be in every way unchangeable and incorruptible; and if it were, it would neither fall off to worse nor advance to better, nor would it either begin to have in itself anything it did not have or cease to have what it had, as far as its own affections are concerned. How differently it actually is needs no outside testimony; whoever pays attention to himself recognizes it. It is vainly said by those who want the soul to be a part of God that this stain and baseness of it which we see in the most wicked people, and this weakness and sickness which we feel in all people, come to it not from itself but from the body. What does it matter from where it falls sick, when, if it were unchangeable, it could not fall sick from anywhere? For what is truly unchangeable and incorruptible cannot be changed or corrupted by the approach of anything; otherwise not only Achilles, as the tales say, but all flesh would be invulnerable, if no mishap befell it. A nature, therefore, is not unchangeable which is changeable in some way, from some cause, in some part. But it is wicked to believe God to be anything but truly and supremely unchangeable. The soul, therefore, is not a part of God.
1 Tim 6:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 8:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 4:18 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine states what he firmly holds: the soul is immortal in its own way but can die spiritually, and it is not a part of God, since it is changeable.
- Scripture: 1 Tim 6:16; Matt 8:22 (Luke 9:60); Eph 4:18. The view that the soul is part of God was held by Manichaeans and Priscillianists (cf. Ep. 165.1).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): firmissime teneam. non tacebo → firmissime teneam, non tacebo.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.3 (CSEL 44:548–550; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-166-3).
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166.4CSEL 44:550–553
Incorpoream quoque esse animam etsi difficile tardioribus persuaderi potest, mihi tamen fateor esse persuasum. sed ne uerbi controuersiam uel superfluo faciam uel merito patiar, quoniam, cum de re constat, non est opus certare de nomine. si corpus est omnis substantia uel essentia uel si quid aptius nuncupatur id, quod aliquo modo est in se ipso, corpus est anima. item si eam solam incorpoream placet appellare naturam, quae summe incommutabilis et ubique tota est, corpus est anima, quoniam tale aliquid ipsa non est. porro si corpus non est, nisi quod per loci spatium aliqua longitudine, latitudine, altitudine ita sistitur uel mouetur, ut maiore sui parte maiorem locum occupet et breuiore breuiorem minusque sit in parte quam in toto, non est corpus anima. per totum quippe corpus, quod animat, non locali diffusione sed quadam uitali intentione porrigitur; nam per omnes eius particulas tota simul adest nec minor in minoribus et in maioribus maior sed alicubi intentius alicubi remissius et in omnibus tota et in singulis tota est. neque enim aliter, quod in corpore etiam non toto sentit, tamen tota sentit; nam cum exiguo puncto in carne uiua aliquid tangitur, quamuis locus ille non solum totius corporis non sit, sed uix in corpore uideatur, animam tamen totam non latet neque id, quod sentitur, per corporis cuncta discurrit, sed ibi tantum sentitur, ubi fit. unde ergo ad totam mox peruenit, quod non in toto fit, nisi quia et ibi tota est, ubi fit, nec, ut tota ibi sit, cetera deserit? uiuunt enim et illa ea praesente, ubi nihil tale factum est. quod si fieret et utrumque simul fieret, simul utrumque totam pariter non lateret. proinde et in omnibus simul et in singulis particulis corporis sui tota simul esse non posset, si per illas ita diffunderetur, ut uidemus corpora diffusa per spatia locorum minoribus suis partibus minora occupare et amplioribus ampliora. quapropter si anima corpus esse dicenda est, non est certe corpus, quale terrenum est nec quale humidum aut aerium aut aetherium. omnia quippe talia maiora sunt in maioribus locis et minora in minoribus et nihil eorum in aliqua sui parte totum adest, sed, ut sunt partes locorum, ita occupantur partibus corporum. unde intellegitur, anima siue corpus siue incorporea dicenda sit, propriam quandam habere naturam omnibus his mundanae molis elementis excellentiore substantia creatam, quae ueraciter non possit in aliqua phantasia corporalium imaginum, quas per carnis sensus percipimus, cogitari, sed mente intellegi uitaque sentiri. neque haec perinde loquor, ut te, quae tibi nota sunt, doceam, sed ut aperiam, quid firmissime de anima teneam, ne me quisquam, cum ad ea uenero, quae requiro, nihil de anima uel scientia uel fide tenere arbitretur.
That the soul is also incorporeal, although this can be hard to persuade slower minds of, I confess I am persuaded. But lest I either needlessly start or deservedly suffer a dispute about a word (since, when the thing is agreed, there is no need to fight over the name): if every substance or essence, or whatever more fittingly names that which in some way exists in itself, is a body, then the soul is a body. Likewise, if one chooses to call incorporeal only that nature which is supremely unchangeable and everywhere whole, then the soul is a body, since it is not anything of that kind. But if nothing is a body except what is so placed or moved through a space of place, with some length, breadth, and height, that it occupies a larger place with a larger part of itself and a smaller with a smaller, and is less in a part than in the whole, then the soul is not a body. For it extends through the whole body which it animates, not by local diffusion but by a certain vital tension; for it is present whole at once through all its particles, not less in the smaller and greater in the larger, but more intensely in some places and more slackly in others, and it is whole in all and whole in each. For otherwise it would not perceive as a whole what it perceives in not the whole body; for when something touches the living flesh at a tiny point, although that place is not only not the whole body but scarcely seems to be in the body, it is nevertheless not hidden from the whole soul; nor does what is felt run through all parts of the body, but it is felt only where it happens. How, then, does what does not happen in the whole at once reach the whole soul, except that the soul is whole also where it happens, and does not desert the rest to be whole there? For those other parts too live by its presence, where nothing of the kind has happened. And if this did happen there too, and both happened at once, both alike would at once be known to the whole soul. Accordingly, it could not be whole at once both in all and in each of the particles of its body, if it were diffused through them in the way we see bodies diffused through spaces of places, occupying smaller spaces with their smaller parts and larger with larger. Therefore, if the soul is to be called a body, it is certainly not a body such as earth is, nor such as water, air, or ether. For all such things are greater in greater places and smaller in smaller, and none of them is present whole in any part of itself; but as there are parts of places, so they are occupied by parts of bodies. Hence it is understood that the soul, whether it is to be called body or incorporeal, has a certain nature of its own, created of a substance more excellent than all these elements of the world's mass, which cannot truly be thought of in any fantasy of bodily images which we perceive through the senses of the flesh, but is understood by the mind and felt by life. I say these things not to teach you what you know, but to make plain what I hold most firmly about the soul, lest anyone, when I come to the things I ask, should think that I hold nothing about the soul either by knowledge or by faith.
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Summary: Augustine holds that the soul is incorporeal, being present whole in every part of the body, as shown by its perceiving a touch at any point.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.4 (CSEL 44:550–553; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-166-4).
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166.5CSEL 44:553–554
Certus etiam sum animam nulla dei culpa, nulla dei necessitate uel sua sed propria uoluntate in peccatum esse conlapsam nec liberari posse de corpore mortis huius uel suae uoluntatis uirtute tamquam sibi ad hoc sufficiente uel ipsius corporis morte sed gratia dei per Iesum Christum dominum nostrum nec omnino esse animam ullam in genere humano, cui non sit necessarius ad liberationem mediator dei et hominum homo Christus Iesus. quaecumque autem sine gratia mediatoris et sacramento eius in qualibet corporis aetate de corpore exierit, et in poena futuram et in ultimo iudicio recepturam corpus ad poenam. si autem post generationem humanam, quae facta est ex Adam, regeneretur in Christo ad eius pertinens societatem, et requiem post mortem corporis habituram et corpus ad gloriam recepturam. haec sunt, quae de anima firmissime teneo.
I am certain also that the soul fell into sin through no fault of God, no necessity of God or of its own, but by its own will; and that it cannot be freed from the body of this death either by the power of its own will, as though sufficient for this, or by the death of the body itself, but by the grace of God through Jesus Christ our Lord; and that there is absolutely no soul in the human race which does not need for its liberation the mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. And whatever soul has gone out of the body, at any age of the body, without the grace of the mediator and his sacrament, will be in punishment and at the last judgment will receive its body back for punishment. But if, after the human generation which came about from Adam, it is regenerated in Christ, belonging to his fellowship, it will both have rest after the death of the body and receive the body back for glory. These are the things I hold most firmly about the soul.
Rom 7:24 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 7:25 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 2:5 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine holds that the soul fell by its own will and can be freed only by God's grace through Christ the mediator, without whom it will be punished.
- Scripture: Rom 7:24–25; 1 Tim 2:5. "His sacrament": baptism.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip (Iesum read as legum)): per legum Christum → per Iesum Christum.
Topics: Baptism, Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.5 (CSEL 44:553–554; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-166-5).
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166.6CSEL 44:554–555
Nunc accipe, obsecro, quid requiram et noli me spernere; sic non te spernat, qui pro nobis dignatus est sperni. quaero, ubi contraxerit anima reatum, quo trahitur in condemnationem etiam infantis morte praeuenti, si ei per sacramentum, quo etiam paruuli baptizantur, Christi gratia non subuenerit. non enim es ex illis, qui modo noua quaedam garrire coeperunt dicentes nullum reatum esse ex Adam tractum, qui per baptismum in infante soluatur. quod te sapere si scirem, immo nisi te id non sapere scirem, nequaquam hoc abs te quaererem aut quaerendum putarem. sed quia tenemus de hac re sententiam tuam concinentem catholicae fundatissimae fidei, qua et Iouiniani uaniloquia redarguens adhibuisti testimonium ex libro Iob: Nemo mundus in conspectu tuo nec infans, cuius est diei unius uita super terram, deinde adiunxisti: 'Tenemurque rei in similitudinem praeuaricationis Adae et liber tuus in Ionam prophetam satis hoc insigniter dilucideque declarat, ubi ieiunare paruulos propter ipsum originale peccatum merito coactos esse dixisti, non inconuenienter abs te quaero, hunc reatum anima ubi contraxerit, unde oporteat eam etiam in illa aetate per sacramentum Christianae gratiae liberari.
Now hear, I beg you, what I ask, and do not despise me; so may he not despise you who deigned to be despised for us. I ask where the soul contracted the guilt by which it is dragged into condemnation, even that of an infant overtaken by death, if the grace of Christ has not come to its aid through the sacrament by which even little ones are baptized. For you are not one of those who have lately begun to chatter certain novelties, saying that there is no guilt drawn from Adam to be dissolved in an infant by baptism. If I knew that you held that, or rather, if I did not know that you do not hold it, I would by no means ask this of you or think it should be asked. But since we hold your opinion on this matter, in harmony with the most firmly founded Catholic faith, by which, refuting the empty talk of Jovinian, you brought forward the testimony from the book of Job, "No one is clean in your sight, not even an infant whose life on earth is one day," and then added, "and we are held guilty in the likeness of Adam's transgression"; and your book on the prophet Jonah declares this quite remarkably and clearly, where you said that the little ones were rightly compelled to fast on account of original sin itself; I not unfittingly ask you where the soul contracted this guilt, from which it must be freed even at that age through the sacrament of Christian grace.
Job 14:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 14:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 5:14 (allusion, high confidence) · Jonah 3:7 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine asks Jerome where an infant's soul contracts the guilt that makes baptism necessary, noting that Jerome himself affirmed original sin against Jovinian and in his Commentary on Jonah.
- Job 14:4–5 (Old Latin/LXX form); Rom 5:14; Jonah 3:5–7. Jerome, Against Jovinian 2.2; Commentary on Jonah 3. "Those who have lately begun to chatter novelties": the Pelagians.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.6 (CSEL 44:554–555; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-166-6).
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166.7CSEL 44:555–557
Ego quidem ante aliquot annos, cum libros quosdam scriberem de libero arbitrio, qui in multorum manus exierunt et habentur a plurimis, quattuor opiniones de animae incarnatione, utrum ex illa una, quae primo homini data est, ceterae propagentur, an singulis quibusque nouae etiam modo fiant, an alicubi iam existentes uel mittantur diuinitus uel sponte labantur in corpora, ita putaui esse tractandas, ut, quaelibet earum uera esset, non impediret intentionem meam, qua tunc aduersus eos quantis poteram uiribus agebam, qui naturam mali suo principio praeditam aduersus deum conantur inducere, id est contra Manichaeos; nam de Priscillianistis adhuc nihil audieram, qui non multum ab istis dissimiles blasphemias fabulantur. ideo quintam opinionem non addidi, quam in tua epistula inter ceteras commemorasti, ne aliquam praeterires, ubi de hac quaestione interroganti rescripsisti religiosae memoriae uiro nobisque in Christi caritate gratissimo Marcellino, quod anima sit pars dei, primo quia non de incarnatione eius sed de natura quaeritur, cum hoc quaeritur, deinde quia hoc sentiunt illi, contra quos agebam, et id maxime agebam, ut creatoris inculpabilem inuiolabilemque naturam a creaturae uitiis et labe secernerem, cum illi a substantia mali, cui proprium principium principesque tribuunt, ipsam boni dei substantiam ex parte, qua capta est, corruptam et oppressam et ad peccandi necessitatem perductam esse contendant. hoc itaque excepto haereticae opinionis errore ex quattuor reliquis opinionibus quaenam sit eligenda, scire desidero. quaecumque enim eligenda est, absit, ut inpugnet hanc fidem, de qua certi sumus, omni animae etiam paruuli infantis necessariam esse liberationem ex obligatione peccati eamque nullam esse nisi per Iesum Christum et hunc crucifixum.
Some years ago, when I was writing certain books on free will, which have gone out into many hands and are held by very many, I thought that the four opinions about the incarnation of the soul (whether the others are propagated from that one which was given to the first man; or new souls are made even now for each individual; or souls already existing somewhere are either sent by God or slip of their own accord into bodies) should be treated in such a way that, whichever of them was true, it would not hinder my purpose, by which I was then acting with all the strength I could against those who try to introduce a nature of evil endowed with its own principle against God, that is, against the Manichaeans; for I had not yet heard anything of the Priscillianists, who fabricate blasphemies not very different from theirs. That is why I did not add the fifth opinion, which you mentioned among the others in your letter (so as not to pass over any) where, when asked about this question, you wrote back to Marcellinus, a man of religious memory and most dear to us in the love of Christ, namely that the soul is a part of God: first, because when this is asked, the question is not about its incarnation but about its nature; second, because this is what those held against whom I was acting, and I was chiefly concerned to separate the blameless and inviolable nature of the Creator from the faults and stain of the creature, since they contend that the very substance of the good God, in the part in which it was captured, was corrupted, oppressed, and brought to the necessity of sinning by the substance of evil, to which they attribute its own principle and princes. Setting aside, then, this error of a heretical opinion, I wish to know which of the four remaining opinions should be chosen. For whichever is to be chosen, God forbid that it should attack this faith of which we are certain: that every soul, even of a little infant, needs liberation from the bond of sin, and that there is none except through Jesus Christ and him crucified.
1 Cor 2:2 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: In On Free Will Augustine left open four views on the soul's origin, leaving out the Manichaean view that it is part of God; now he asks Jerome which of the four is true, consistent with infants' need of Christ.
- Augustine, On Free Will 3.20.56–21.59. Jerome's letter to Marcellinus is Ep. 165 in this collection. Scripture: 1 Cor 2:2.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (Iesum read as legum)): uftiis → uitiis; per legum Christum → per Iesum Christum.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.7 (CSEL 44:555–557; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-166-7).
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166.8CSEL 44:557–558
Proinde, ne longum faciamus, hoc certe sentis, quod singulas animas singulis nascentibus etiam modo deus faciat. cui sententiae ne obiciatur, quod omnes creaturas sexto die consummauerit deus, septimo requieuerit, adhibes testimonium ex euangelio: Pater meus usque nunc operatur. sic enim ad Marcellinum scripsisti, in qua epistula etiam mei commemorationem beniuolentissime facere dignatus es, quod hic me haberet in Africa, qui ei possem istam facilius explicare sententiam. quod si potuissem, non ille hoc abs te tam longe posito inquireret, si tamen id tibi ex Africa scripsit. nam quando scripserit, nescio; tantum scio, quod de hoc bene cognouerit cunctationem meam, unde me inconsulto facere uoluit. quamquam etiam si consuleret, magis hortarer et gratias agerem, quod nobis conferri omnibus posset, nisi tu breuiter rescribere quam respondere maluisses, credo ne superfluo laborares, ubi ego essem, quem putabas id optime scire, quod ille quaesierat. ecce uolo, ut illa sententia etiam mea sit, sed nondum esse confirmo.
To be brief, then: you certainly hold that God makes individual souls even now for individuals at birth. Lest it be objected to this opinion that God completed all creatures on the sixth day and rested on the seventh, you bring forward the testimony from the gospel: "My Father is working until now." For so you wrote to Marcellinus, in which letter you deigned most kindly to mention me too, saying that he had me here in Africa, who could more easily explain this opinion to him. If I could have done so, he would not have asked it of you, placed so far away, if indeed he wrote to you from Africa. For when he wrote I do not know; I only know that he was well aware of my hesitation on this matter, which is why he wished to do it without consulting me. Although, even if he had consulted me, I would rather have encouraged him and thanked him, since it could have been shared with all of us, had you not preferred to write back briefly rather than to answer, I believe so as not to labor needlessly where I was, whom you thought to know very well what he had asked. See, I wish that opinion to be mine too, but I do not yet affirm that it is.
Gen 2:2 (allusion, high confidence) · John 5:17 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Jerome holds that God creates each soul at birth, citing John 5:17, and referred Marcellinus to Augustine; Augustine wishes to share this view but cannot yet affirm it.
- Scripture: Gen 2:2; John 5:17. Jerome, Ep. 165.1 (in this collection).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR garble inside a word; OCR slip (n for u)): commemo<3Tn«, rationem → commemorationem; breniter → breuiter.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.8 (CSEL 44:557–558; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-166-8).
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166.9CSEL 44:558–560
Misisti ad me discipulos, ut eam rem doceam, quam nondum ipse didici. doce ergo, quod doceam; nam ut doceam, multi a me flagitant eisque me sicut alia multa et hoc ignorare confiteor. et fortasse, quamuis in os meum uerecundentur, tamen apud se dicunt: Tu es magister in Israhel et haec ignoras! quod quidem dominus ei dixit, qui erat unus illorum, quos delectabat uocari rabbi, unde etiam ad uerum magistrum nocte uenerat, quia fortassis erubescebat discere, qui docere consueuerat. me autem magistrum potius audire quam uelut magistrum delectat audiri. recolo enim, quid dixerit eis, quos prae ceteris elegit: Vos autem, inquit, nolite uocari ab hominibus rabbi; unus est enim magister uester Christus. nec alius docuit Moysen etiam per Iothor nec alius Cornelium etiam per priorem Petrum nec alius Petrum etiam per posteriorem Paulum; a quocumque uerum dicitur, illo donante dicitur, qui est ipsa ueritas. quid, si ideo adhuc ista nescimus et ea neque orando neque legendo neque cogitando et ratiocinando inuenire potuimus, ut probemur, non solum indoctos quanta caritate doceamus, uerum a doctis etiam quanta humilitate discamus?
You have sent disciples to me, for me to teach them a thing I have not yet learned myself. Teach me, then, what to teach; for many demand of me that I teach, and to them I confess that I do not know this, as many other things. And perhaps, although they are too modest to say it to my face, yet among themselves they say: "You are a teacher in Israel and do not know these things!" That is what the Lord said to the man who was one of those who delighted to be called rabbi, which is why he had come to the true Teacher by night, because perhaps he was ashamed to learn, being accustomed to teach. But I am more delighted to listen to the Teacher than to be listened to as a teacher. For I recall what he said to those whom he chose above the rest: "But you, do not be called rabbi by men; for one is your Teacher, Christ." Nor did any other teach Moses, even through Jethro, nor any other Cornelius, even through Peter, who was earlier, nor any other Peter, even through Paul, who was later; by whomever the truth is spoken, it is spoken by the gift of him who is the Truth itself. What if we still do not know these things, and have not been able to find them by praying, reading, or thinking and reasoning, precisely so that we may be tested, not only with how much love we teach the unlearned, but also with how much humility we learn from the learned?
John 3:10 (quotation, high confidence) · John 3:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 23:7 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 23:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 18:19 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 10:34 (allusion, medium confidence) · Gal 2:11 (allusion, high confidence) · John 14:6 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Augustine asks Jerome to teach him what to teach, recalling that Christ is the one Teacher who teaches through others, and that humility in learning is a test.
- Scripture: John 3:10; John 3:2; Matt 23:7–8; Exod 18:13–24; Acts 10; Gal 2:11–14; John 14:6.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray mark in the digital text): quanta humilitate discamus? - → quanta humilitate discamus?.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.9 (CSEL 44:558–560; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-166-9).
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166.10CSEL 44:560–561
Doce ergo, quaeso, quod doceam, doce, quod teneam, et dic mihi, si animae singillatim singulis hodieque nascentibus fiunt, ubi in paruulis peccent, ut indigeant in sacramento Christi remissione peccati peccantes in Adam, ex quo caro est propagata peccati, aut, si non peccant, qua iustitia creatoris ita peccato obligantur alieno, cum exinde propagatis membris mortalibus inseruntur, ut eas, nisi per ecclesiam subuentum fuerit, damnatio consequatur, cum in earum potestate non sit, ut eis possit gratia baptismi subueniri. tot igitur animarum milia, quae in mortibus paruulorum sine indulgentia Christiani sacramenti de corporibus exeunt, qua aequitate damnantur, si nouae creatae nullo suo praecedente peccato sed uoluntate creatoris singulae singulis nascentibus adhaeserunt, quibus eas animandis ille creauit et dedit, qui utique nouerat, quod unaquaeque earum nulla sua culpa sine baptismo Christi de corpore fuerat exitura? quoniam igitur neque de deo possumus dicere, quod uel cogat animas fieri peccatrices uel puniat innocentes, neque negare fas nobis est eas, quae sine Christi sacramento de corporibus exierint, etiam paruulorum non nisi in damnationem trahi, obsecro te, quo modo haec opinio defenditur, qua creduntur animae non ex illa una primi hominis fieri omnes sed sicut illa una uni ita singulis singulae?
Teach, then, I beg you, what I should teach, teach what I should hold, and tell me: if souls are made individually for individuals born even today, where do they sin in little ones, so that they need forgiveness of sin in the sacrament of Christ, as sinning in Adam, from whom the flesh of sin has been propagated? Or, if they do not sin, by what justice of the Creator are they so bound by another's sin, when they are put into the mortal members propagated from him, that condemnation follows them unless help comes through the church, since it is not in their power to obtain the help of the grace of baptism? So many thousands of souls, then, which in the deaths of little ones go out of their bodies without the pardon of the Christian sacrament, with what equity are they condemned, if, newly created, with no preceding sin of their own but by the will of the Creator, they were joined one each to each individual born, for whose animation he created and gave them, he who certainly knew that each one of them, through no fault of its own, would go out of the body without the baptism of Christ? Since, therefore, we can neither say of God that he either compels souls to become sinners or punishes the innocent, nor is it lawful for us to deny that those souls, even of little ones, which have gone out of their bodies without the sacrament of Christ, are drawn only to condemnation, I beg you, how is this opinion defended, by which souls are believed not all to be made from that one of the first man, but each for each, as that one was for one?
Rom 8:3 (echo, medium confidence)
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Summary: If each soul is newly created, Augustine cannot see how unbaptized infants can justly be condemned, and he asks Jerome how this view can be defended.
- Scripture: Rom 8:3 ("flesh of sin"). Augustine's teaching on the condemnation of unbaptized infants is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): peccantes in Adam. ex quo → peccantes in Adam, ex quo.
Topics: Baptism
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.10 (CSEL 44:560–561; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-166-10).
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166.11CSEL 44:561–563
Ea uero, quae dicuntur alia contra hanc opinionem, facile puto me posse refellere, sicuti est illud, quo eam sibi quidam uidentur urgere, quo modo consummauerit deus omnia opera sua sexto die et septimo requieuerit, si nouas adhuc animas creat. quibus si dixerimus, quod ex euangelio in supra dicta epistula posuisti: Pater meus usque nunc operatur, respondent: Operatur dictum est institutas administrando, non nouas instituendo naturas, ne scripturae geneseos contradicatur, ubi apertissime legitur consummasse deum omnia opera sua. nam et quod eum scriptum est requieuisse, utique a creandis nouis creaturis intellegendum est, non a gubernandis. quia tunc ea, quae non erant, fecit, a quibus faciendis requieuit, quia consummauerat omnia, quae, antequam essent, uidit esse facienda, ut deinceps non ea, quae non erant, sed ex his, quae iam erant, crearet et faceret, quicquid faceret. ita utrumque uerum esse monstratur, et quod dictum est: Requieuit ab operibus suis et quod dictum est: Usque nunc operatur, quoniam genesi non potest euangelium esse contrarium.
The other things which are said against this opinion I think I can easily refute, such as that by which some think they press hard against it: how God completed all his works on the sixth day and rested on the seventh, if he still creates new souls. If we say to them what you set down from the gospel in the aforesaid letter, "My Father is working until now," they answer: "'Is working' was said of administering natures already established, not of establishing new ones, lest the Scripture of Genesis be contradicted, where we read most plainly that God completed all his works. For the statement that he rested is certainly to be understood of creating new creatures, not of governing them; because then he made the things which did not exist, from the making of which he rested, because he had completed all the things which, before they existed, he saw should be made, so that from then on he would create and make whatever he made not of things which did not exist but from those which already existed. Thus both are shown to be true, both what was said, 'He rested from his works,' and what was said, 'He is working until now,' since the gospel cannot be contrary to Genesis."
Gen 2:2 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:17 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Opponents answer the appeal to John 5:17 by saying God's ongoing work is governance, not new creation, since Genesis says he finished creating.
- Scripture: Gen 2:2; John 5:17.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip (n for u)): non nonas instituendo → non nouas instituendo.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.11 (CSEL 44:561–563; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-166-11).
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166.12CSEL 44:563–565
Verum his, qui haec ideo dicunt, ne credatur modo deus sicut illam unam nouas animas, quae non erant, facere, sed ex illa una, quae iam erat, eas creare uel ex fonte aliquo siue thesauro quodam, quem tunc fecit, eas mittere, facile respondetur etiam illis sex diebus multa deum creasse ex his naturis, quas iam creauerat, sicut ex aquis alites et pisces, ex terra autem arbores, faenum, animalia. sed quod ea, quae non erant, tunc fecerit, manifestum est; nulla enim erat auis, nullus piscis, nulla arbor, nullum animal et bene intellegitur ab his creatis requieuisse, quae non erant et creata sunt, id est cessasse, ne ultra, quae non erant, crearentur. sed nunc quod dicitur animas non in nescio quo fonte iam existentes mittere nec de se ipso tamquam suas particulas inrorare nec de illa una originaliter trahere nec pro delictis ante carnem commissis carneis uinculis compedire sed nouas creare singulas singulis suam cuique nascenti, non aliquid facere dicitur, quod ante non fecerat. iam enim sexto die fecerat hominem ad imaginem suam, quod utique secundum animam rationalem fecisse intellegitur. hoc et nunc facit non instituendo, quod non erat, sed multiplicando, quod erat. unde et illud uerum est, quod a rebus, quae non erant, instituendis requieuit, et hoc uerum est, quod non solum gubernando, quae fecit, uerum etiam aliquid, non quod nondum sed quod iam creauerat, numerosius creando usque nunc operatur. uel sic ergo uel alio quolibet modo eximus ab eo, quod nobis obicitur de requie dei ab operibus suis, ne propterea non credamus nunc usque fieri animas nouas non ex illa una sed sicut illam unam.
But to those who say these things so that it may not be believed that God now makes new souls, which did not exist, as he made that one, but creates them from that one which already existed, or sends them from some fountain or treasury which he made then, it is easily answered that even in those six days God created many things from natures which he had already created, as birds and fish from the waters, and trees, grass, and animals from the earth. But that he then made things which did not exist is manifest; for there was no bird, no fish, no tree, no animal; and he is rightly understood to have rested from creating those things which did not exist and were created, that is, to have ceased, so that no more things which did not exist should be created. But now, when it is said that he does not send souls already existing in some fountain or other, nor sprinkle them from himself as particles of his own, nor draw them originally from that one, nor fetter them with fleshly bonds for offenses committed before the flesh, but creates new ones, individually for individuals, his own for each one born, he is not said to do something which he had not done before. For already on the sixth day he had made man in his image, which he is certainly understood to have done according to the rational soul. This he does now too, not by establishing what did not exist, but by multiplying what did. Hence both this is true, that he rested from establishing things which did not exist, and this is true, that he is working until now, not only by governing what he made, but also by creating more numerously something which he had not now first created but had already created. Either in this way, then, or in any other way, we escape what is objected to us about God's rest from his works, so that we need not refuse on this account to believe that new souls are made even now, not from that one but like that one.
Gen 1:20 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 1:24 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 1:27 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 2:2 (allusion, high confidence) · John 5:17 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine answers that the creation of new souls does not contradict God's rest, since God is multiplying a kind he already made on the sixth day, man in his image.
- Scripture: Gen 1:20–27; Gen 2:2; John 5:17.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): quae non erant. facere → quae non erant, facere; animam rationalem. fecisse → animam rationalem fecisse; et illud uerum. est, → et illud uerum est,.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.12 (CSEL 44:563–565; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-166-12).
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166.13CSEL 44:565–566
Nam quod dicitur: Quare facit animas eis, quos nouit cito morituros? possumus respondere parentum hinc peccata uel conuinci uel flagellari. possumus etiam recte illius moderationi ista relinquere, quem scimus omnibus temporaliter transeuntibus rebus, ubi sunt etiam animalium ortus et obitus, cursum ornatissimum atque ordinatissimum dare, sed nos ista sentire non posse, quae si sentiremus, delectatione ineffabili mulceremur. non enim frustra per prophetam, qui haec diuinitus inspirata didicerat, dictum est de deo: Qui profert numerose saeculum. unde musica, id est scientia sensusue modulandi ad admonitionem magnae rei etiam mortalibus rationales habentibus animas dei largitate concessa est. unde si homo faciendi artifex carminis nouit, quas quibus moras uocibus tribuat, ut illud, quod canitur, decedentibus ac succedentibus sonis pulcherrime currat et transeat, quanto magis deus, cuius sapientia, per quam fecit omnia, longe omnibus artibus praeferenda est, nulla in naturis nascentibus et occidentibus temporum spatia, quae tamquam syllabae ac uerba ad particulas huius saeculi pertinent, in hoc labentium rerum tamquam mirabili cantico uel breuius uel productius, quam modulatio praecognita et praefinita deposcit, praeterire permittit! hoc cum etiam de arboris folio dixerim et de nostrorum numero capillorum, quanto magis de hominis ortu et occasu, cuius temporalis uita breuius productiusue non tenditur, quam deus dispositor temporum nouit uniuersitatis moderamini consonare!
As for the question, "Why does he make souls for those whom he knows will soon die?", we can answer that by this the sins of the parents are either exposed or chastised. We can also rightly leave these things to the governance of him who we know gives a most beautiful and most ordered course to all things that pass in time, among which are also the births and deaths of animals, though we cannot perceive these things; if we did perceive them, we would be soothed with unspeakable delight. For not in vain was it said of God through the prophet who had learned these things by divine inspiration: "Who brings forth the world in measured order." Hence music, that is, the knowledge or sense of measured movement, has been granted by God's generosity even to mortals who have rational souls, as a reminder of a great thing. Hence, if a man who is a craftsman in making a song knows what durations to assign to which notes, so that what is sung may run and pass most beautifully with sounds departing and succeeding, how much more does God, whose wisdom, through which he made all things, is to be preferred far above all arts, allow no spans of time in natures that are born and die, which are like syllables and words belonging to the parts of this age, to pass in this wonderful song, as it were, of passing things, either more briefly or more lengthily than the measure foreknown and predetermined demands! Since I would say this even of the leaf of a tree and of the number of our hairs, how much more of the birth and death of a human being, whose temporal life is not extended more briefly or more lengthily than God, the disposer of times, knows to harmonize with the governance of the universe!
Isa 40:26 (quotation, medium confidence) · Ps 104:24 (103:24 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 10:30 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: God may create souls for infants who die soon either to expose or chastise their parents' sins, or as part of the ordered "song" of time whose measures he determines.
- "Who brings forth the world in measured order": Isa 40:26 in the Old Latin (from the Septuagint, ὁ ἐκφέρων κατὰ ἀριθμὸν τὸν κόσμον αὐτοῦ, in the Latin taken as "world/age"). Scripture also: Ps 104:24 (103:24 Vulgate); Matt 10:30.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): Quare facit animas. eis → Quare facit animas eis; scientia sensusue. modulandi → scientia sensusue modulandi.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.13 (CSEL 44:565–566; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-166-13).
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166.14CSEL 44:566–567
Id etiam, quod aiunt omne, quod in tempore coepit esse, inmortale esse non posse, quia omnia orta occidunt et aucta senescunt, ut eo modo credi cogant animum humanum ideo esse inmortalem, quod ante omnia tempora sit creatus, non mouet fidem nostram; ut enim alia taceam, coepit esse in tempore inmortalitas carnis Christi, quae tamen iam non moritur et mors ei ultra non dominabitur.
And what they say, that whatever began to exist in time cannot be immortal, because "all things that arise perish and all that grow grow old," so as to compel the belief that the human mind is immortal for the reason that it was created before all times, does not trouble our faith; for, to say nothing of other things, the immortality of Christ's flesh began to exist in time, yet it now dies no more and death will no longer have dominion over it.
Rom 6:9 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: The objection that nothing that begins in time can be immortal is refuted by the immortality of Christ's risen flesh.
- "All things that arise perish and all that grow grow old": Sallust, Jugurtha 2.3. Scripture: Rom 6:9.
Extrabiblical texts: Sallust, Jug. 2.3 (Sallust; quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.14 (CSEL 44:566–567; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-166-14).
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166.15CSEL 44:567–568
Illud uero, quod in libro aduersus Rufinum posuisti, quosdam huic sententiae calumniari, quod deum dare animas adulterinis conceptibus uideatur indignum, unde conantur adstruere meritis gestae ante carnem uitae animas quasi ad ergastula huius modi iuste posse perduci, non me mouet multa cogitantem, quibus haec possit calumnia refutari. et quod ipse respondisti non esse uitium sementis in tritico, quod furto dicitur esse sublatum, sed in eo, qui frumenta furatus est, nec idcirco terram non debuisse gremio suo semina confouere, quia sator inmunda ea proiecerit manu, elegantissima similitudo est. quam et antequam legerem, nullas mihi obiectio ista de adulterinis fetibus in hac quaestione faciebat angustias generaliter intuenti multa bona deum facere etiam de nostris malis nostrisque peccatis. animalis autem cuiuscumque creatio si habeat prudentem piumque consideratorem, ineffabilem laudem creatori excitat, quanto magis creatio non cuiuslibet animalis sed hominis! si autem causa creandi quaeritur, nulla citius et melius respondetur, nisi quia omnis creatura dei bona est; et quid dignius, quam ut bona faciat bonus deus, quae nemo potest facere nisi deus?
As for what you set down in your book against Rufinus, that some slander this opinion on the ground that it seems unworthy for God to give souls to adulterous conceptions, from which they try to establish that souls can justly be brought into such prison-houses, as it were, for the merits of a life lived before the flesh, this does not trouble me, since I can think of many ways in which this slander can be refuted. And your own answer, that the fault is not in the seed of wheat which is said to have been stolen, but in the one who stole the grain, and that the earth ought not therefore to refuse to cherish the seeds in its bosom because the sower cast them with an unclean hand, is a most elegant comparison. Even before I read it, this objection about adulterous offspring caused me no difficulty in this question, since I considered in general that God makes many good things even out of our evils and our sins. For the creation of any animal whatever, if it has a prudent and godly observer, stirs up unspeakable praise of the Creator; how much more the creation not of just any animal but of a human being! And if the reason for creating is asked, no answer is quicker or better than that every creature of God is good; and what is more fitting than that the good God should make good things, which no one but God can make?
1 Tim 4:4 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: The objection that God would not give souls to children conceived in adultery does not trouble Augustine; Jerome's comparison of stolen seed answers it, since God brings good out of human sin.
- Jerome, Apology against Rufinus 3.28. Scripture: 1 Tim 4:4.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text; stray periods in the digital text): in tritico,. quod furto dicitur esse sublatum,. sed in eo, qui frumenta. furatus → in tritico, quod furto dicitur esse sublatum, sed in eo, qui frumenta furatus; nisi quia. omnis → nisi quia omnis.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.15 (CSEL 44:567–568; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-166-15).
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166.16CSEL 44:568–570
Haec et alia, quae possum, sicut possum, dico aduersus eos, qui hanc opinionem, qua creduntur animae sicut illa una singulis fieri, labefactare conantur. sed cum ad poenas uentum est paruulorum, magnis, mihi crede, coartor angustiis nec, quid respondeam, prorsus inuenio, non solum eas poenas dico, quas habet post hanc uitam illa damnatio, quo necesse est trahantur, si de corpore exierint sine Christianae gratiae sacramento, sed eas ipsas, quae in hac uita dolentibus nobis uersantur ante oculos, quas enumerare si uelim, prius tempus quam exempla deficiunt. languescunt aegritudinibus, torquentur doloribus, fame et siti cruciantur, debilitantur membris, priuantur sensibus, uexantur ab inmundis spiritibus. demonstrandum est utique, quo modo ista sine ulla sua mala causa iuste patiantur. non enim dici fas est aut ista ignorante deo fieri aut eum non posse resistere facientibus aut iniuste ista uel facere uel permittere. num quidnam, sicut animalia inrationabilia recte dicimus in usus dari naturis excellentioribus etsi uitiosis, sicut apertissime in euangelio uidemus porcos ad usum desideratum concessos esse daemonibus, hoc et de homine recte possumus dicere? animal est enim sed rationale etsi mortale. anima est rationalis in illis membris, quae tantis afflictionibus poenas luit. deus bonus est, deus iustus est, deus omnipotens est; hoc dubitare omnino dementis est tantorum ergo malorum, quae fiunt in paruulis, causa iusta dicatur. nempe cum maiores ista patiuntur, solemus dicere aut sicut in Iob merita examinari aut sicut in Herode peccata puniri et de quibusdam exemplis, quae deus manifesta esse uoluit, alia quae obscura sunt, hominum coniecturae conceditur. sed hoc in maioribus. de paruulis autem quid respondeamus, edissere, si poenis tantis nulla in eis sunt punienda peccata; nam utique nulla est in illis aetatibus examinanda iustitia.
These and other things, as I can, I say against those who try to undermine this opinion, by which souls are believed to be made for individuals as that one was. But when it comes to the punishments of little ones, believe me, I am pressed by great difficulties and find absolutely nothing to answer; I mean not only those punishments which that condemnation holds after this life, to which they must be dragged if they go out of the body without the sacrament of Christian grace, but those very ones which, to our grief, are before our eyes in this life, which, if I wished to enumerate them, time would fail before examples. They languish with illnesses, are racked with pains, tormented by hunger and thirst, crippled in their limbs, deprived of senses, harassed by unclean spirits. It must certainly be shown how they justly suffer these things without any evil cause of their own. For it is not lawful to say either that these things happen without God's knowledge, or that he cannot resist those who do them, or that he unjustly either does or permits them. Just as we rightly say that irrational animals are given for the use of more excellent natures, even if vicious ones (as we most plainly see in the gospel that pigs were granted to the demons for the use they desired), can we rightly say this also of man? For he is an animal, but rational, though mortal. There is a rational soul in those members which pays the penalty with such great afflictions. God is good, God is just, God is almighty; to doubt this is utter madness. Let a just cause, then, be stated for such great evils as happen in little ones. Indeed, when adults suffer these things, we usually say either that their merits are being tested, as in Job, or that their sins are being punished, as in Herod; and from certain examples which God willed to be manifest, human conjecture is allowed about other things which are obscure. But this is in adults. Tell me, then, what we should answer about little ones, if there are no sins in them to be punished by such great penalties; for certainly in those ages there is no righteousness to be tested.
Mark 5:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Mark 5:13 (allusion, high confidence) · Job 1:12 (allusion, medium confidence) · Acts 12:23 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine is at a loss to explain the sufferings of infants in this life, and their condemnation if unbaptized, if their souls are newly created and sinless.
- Scripture: Mark 5:12–13 (Matt 8:31–32); Job 1–2; Acts 12:23.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip (l for I); stray mark in the digital text; stray period in the digital text): ista ignorante. deo → ista ignorante deo; excellentioribus > → excellentioribus; sicut in lob → sicut in Iob.
Topics: Baptism
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.16 (CSEL 44:568–570; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-166-16).
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166.17CSEL 44:570–571
De ingeniorum uero diuersitate quid dicam? quae quidem in paruulis latet, sed ab ipsis exordiis naturalibus ductum apparet in grandibus, quorum nonnulli tam tardi et obliuiosi sunt, ut ne prima quidem discere litterarum elementa potuerint, quidam uero tantae sunt fatuitatis, ut non multum a pecoribus differant, quos moriones uulgo uocant. respondetur fortasse: Corpora hoc faciunt. sed numquid secundum hanc sententiam, quam defendi uolumus, anima sibi corpus elegit et in eligendo cum falleretur, errauit? aut, cum in corpus cogeretur intrare necessitate nascendi, alia corpora praeoccupantibus animarum turbis ipsa aliud non inuenit et sicut in spectaculo aliquo locum ita carnem, non quam uoluit, sed quam ualuit, occupauit? numquid haec et talia dicere possumus uel sentire debemus? doce igitur, quid sentire, quid dicere debeamus, ut constet nobis ratio nouarum animarum singulis corporibus singillatimque factarum.
What shall I say of the diversity of talents? It is hidden in little ones, but, drawn from their very natural beginnings, it appears in adults, some of whom are so slow and forgetful that they cannot learn even the first elements of letters, while some are of such stupidity that they differ little from cattle; people commonly call them morons. Perhaps it is answered: "Bodies cause this." But according to this opinion which we want defended, did the soul choose a body for itself and err in choosing when it was deceived? Or, when it was compelled to enter a body by the necessity of being born, did it find no other because crowds of souls had seized the other bodies first, and, as with a seat at some show, take possession of a flesh, not the one it wanted, but the one it could get? Can we say such things, or ought we to think them? Teach me, then, what we ought to think and say, so that the reasoning for new souls made for individual bodies one by one may stand firm for us.
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Summary: The inborn differences of intelligence also raise difficulties for the view that each soul is newly created.
- "Morons" renders moriones, the popular word for the mentally disabled.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.17 (CSEL 44:570–571; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/165-1/#p-166-17).
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