Tractates on the Gospel of John 21.14–21.17
Latin text: Migne, PL 35 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 7 (1888).
Chapter 21
21.14PL 35:1571
Ecce videbitur forma hominis a piis et impiis, a justis et ab injustis, a fidelibus et ab infidelibus, a gaudentibus et a plangentibus, a confisis et a confu sis: ecce videbitur. Cum visa fuerit illa forma in ju dicio, et fuerit peractum judicium. ubi dictum est Pa trem non judicare quemquam, sed omne judicium dedisse Filio, ob hoc, quia Filius apparebit in judicio in forma quam ex nobis accepit, quid postea futurum est? Quando videbitur forma Dei, quam sitiunt omnes fideles? quando videbitur illud quod erat in principio Verbum, Deus apud Deum, per quod facta sunt omnia? quando videbitur illa forma Dei, de qua dicit Aposto lus, Cum in forma Dei esset, non rapinam arbitratus est esse œqualis Deo? Magna enim illa forma ubi adhuc æqualitas Patris et Filii cognosci tur: ineffabilis, incomprehensibilis, maxime parvulis. Quando videbitur? Ecce ad dexteram sunt justi, ad si nistram sunt injusti; omnes pariter hominem vident, Filium hominis vident, qui punctus est vident, qui crucifixus est vident; humiliatum vident, natum ex Virgine vident, Agnum de tribu Juda vident: Verbum Deum apud Deum quando videbunt? Ipse erit et tunc, sed forma servi apparebit. Forma servi servis demon strabitur: forma Dei filiis servabitur. Fiant ergo servi filii; qui sunt ad dexteram, eant in æternam haeredi tatem olim promissam, quam non videntes martyres crediderunt, pro cujus promissione sanguinem suum sine dubitatione fuderunt: eant illuc et videant ibi. Quando illuc ibunt? Dicat ipse Dominus: Sic ibunt illi in ambustionem œternam, justi autem in vitam œternam.
See, the form of a man will be seen by the devout and the ungodly, by the just and the unjust, by believers and unbelievers, by those rejoicing and those lamenting, by the confident and the confounded: see, it will be seen. When that form has been seen at the judgment, and the judgment has been completed—where it was said that the Father judges no one but has given all judgment to the Son for this reason, that the Son will appear at the judgment in the form he received from us—what will happen afterward? When will the form of God be seen, for which all the faithful thirst? When will that be seen which was in the beginning, the Word, God with God, through whom all things were made? When will that form of God be seen, of which the apostle says, “Being in the form of God, he did not think it robbery to be equal with God”? For great is that form in which the equality of Father and Son is still known: ineffable, incomprehensible, especially to little ones. When will it be seen? See, the just are on the right, the unjust on the left; all alike see the man, they see the Son of man, they see the one who was pierced, they see the one who was crucified; they see him humbled, they see him born of the Virgin, they see the Lamb from the tribe of Judah: when will they see the Word, God with God? He will be that then too, but the form of a servant will appear. The form of a servant will be shown to servants; the form of God will be kept for sons. Let the servants, then, become sons; let those on the right go into the eternal inheritance long promised, which the martyrs believed without seeing, for whose promise they shed their blood without hesitation: let them go there and see there. When will they go there? Let the Lord himself say: “So these will go into everlasting burning, but the righteous into eternal life.”
Phil 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Rev 5:5 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 25:46 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: At the judgment all will see Christ's human form; the form of God, equal to the Father, is kept for the righteous who go into eternal life.
- Phil 2:6 and Matt 25:46 are quoted; the Lamb from the tribe of Judah recalls Rev 5:5–6.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark in the digital text): plangenLibns, a confisis et a cornu sis: ccce → plangentibus, a confisis et a confu sis: ecce; in ju dicin → in ju dicio; futurum cst? Quando videbitur forma Dci → futurum est? Quando videbitur forma Dei; vidcbitur → videbitur; iila forma → illa forma; arbilratus eat → arbitratus est; Magna enim ilia → Magna enim illa; videbiuir? Ecce ad dexteram sunl justi → videbitur? Ecce ad dexteram sunt justi; iujusti; omnes pariter homiuem → injusti; omnes pariter hominem; crucifixus eat → crucifixus est; apud Dcum → apud Deum; demon strabitur.: → demon strabitur:; sanguinem scium → sanguinem suum.
Topics: Christology, Eschatology, Martyrdom
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 21.14 (PL 35:1571; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/21-14/#p-21-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.
21.15PL 35:1571–1573
Ecce vitam aeternam nominavit. Numquid hoc nobis dixit, quia ibi videbimus et cognoscemus Pa trem et Filium? Quid, si vivemus in æternum, sed illum Patrem et Filium non videbimus? Audi alio loco ubi vitam æternam nominavit, et expressit quid sit vita æterna. Noli timere, non te fallo: non sine causa promisi dilectoribus meis dicens, Qui habet mandata mea et servat ea, ille est qui diligit me: et qui me dili git, diligetur a Patre meo, et ego diligam eum, et osten dam meipsum illi. Respondeamus Do mino, et dicamus: Quid, Domine Deus noster, ma gnum? quid magnum? Nobis demonstraturus es teipsum? Quid enim, et Judæis te non demonstrasti? nonne te viderunt et qui crucifixerunt? Sed demonstra bis te in judicio, cum stabimus ad dexteram tuam: numquid et illi qui ad sinistram stabunt non te vide bunt? Quid est quod demonstrabis nobis teipsum? Nunc enim non te videmus cum loqueris? Respondet, Demonstrabo meipsum in forma Dei, videtis modo formam servi. Non te fraudabo, o homo fidelis; cre de quia videbis. Amas, et non vides: amor ipse non te perducet ut videas? Ama, persevera in amando: non fraudabo, inquit, amorem tuum, qui mundavi cor tuum. Utquid enim mundavi cor tuum, nisi ut Deus a te possit videri? Beati enim mundi corde, quia ipsi Deum videbunt. Sed hoc, inquit servus tanquam cum Domino disputans, non expressisti cum dixisti, Ibunt justi in vitam aeternam: non dixisti, ibunt ut videant me in forma Dei, videant Patrem cui æqualis sum. Alibi attende quid dixit: Hœc est autem vita aeterna, ut cognoscant te unum verum Deum, et quem misisti Jesum Christum.
See, he has named eternal life. Has he told us that there we shall see and know the Father and the Son? What if we shall live for ever, but shall not see the Father and the Son? Hear another place where he named eternal life and expressed what eternal life is. Do not fear, I am not deceiving you: not without reason did I make a promise to those who love me, saying, “He who has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me; and he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will show myself to him.” Let us answer the Lord and say: What great thing is this, Lord our God? What great thing? Are you going to show yourself to us? Why, did you not show yourself to the Jews too? Did not even those who crucified you see you? But you will show yourself at the judgment, when we stand at your right hand: will not those too who stand at the left see you? What is it that you will show yourself to us? For do we not see you now, when you speak? He answers: I will show myself in the form of God; now you see the form of a servant. I will not cheat you, O faithful man; believe that you will see. You love, and you do not see: will not love itself bring you to see? Love; persevere in loving. I will not cheat your love, he says, I who have cleansed your heart. For why have I cleansed your heart, except that God may be seen by you? “For blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.” “But this,” says the servant, as if arguing with his Lord, “you did not express when you said, ‘The righteous will go into eternal life’; you did not say, ‘They will go to see me in the form of God, to see the Father to whom I am equal.’” Notice what he said elsewhere: “And this is eternal life, that they may know you, the one true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.”
John 14:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 5:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 25:46 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:3 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ promised to show himself, in the form of God, to those who love him; eternal life is to know the one true God and Jesus Christ.
- John 14:21, Matt 5:8, Matt 25:46, and John 17:3 are quoted.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): vivemus ill æternum → vivemus in æternum; aLternam → æternam; vita alterna. Noli timere, nou te → vita æterna. Noli timere, non te; ille eat qui → ille est qui; et-ego diligam eum, et osten dum → et ego diligam eum, et osten dam; nia gnum → ma gnum; Quid euim, et Judæis te non demonstrasti? nen te vidcrunt → Quid enim, et Judæis te non demonstrasti? nonne te viderunt; dexteram luam: numquid et Uti → dexteram tuam: numquid et illi; bunt! Quid est quod demonstrabis nubis → bunt? Quid est quod demonstrabis nobis; Demostrabo → Demonstrabo; Beati enim mundo corde, quia → Beati enim mundi corde, quia.
Topics: Eschatology, Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 21.15 (PL 35:1571–1573; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/21-14/#p-21-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.
21.16PL 35:1573
Et modo ergo post commemoratum judicium, quod omne dedit Filio Pater non judicans quemquam, quid futurum est? Quid sequitur? Ut omnes honorifi cent Filium, sicut honorificant Patrem. Judaeis hono rificatur Pater, contemnitur Filius. Filius enim vide batur ut servus, Pater honorificabatur ut Deus. Appa rebit et Filius aequalis Patri, ut omnes honorificent Fi lium, sicut honorificant Patrem. Modo ergo hoc habens in fide. Nec dicat Judæus: Patrem honorifico; quid mihi est cum Filio? Respondeat illi, Qui non honorifi cat Filium, non honorificat Patrem. Mentiris omnino, Filium blasphemas, et Patri facis injuriam. Pater enim Filium misit, tu contemnis quem misit: quo modo honorificas mittentem, qui blasphemas missum?
And now, then, after the mention of the judgment, all of which the Father has given to the Son, judging no one himself, what will happen? What follows? “That all may honor the Son as they honor the Father.” By the Jews the Father is honored, the Son despised. For the Son was seen as a servant; the Father was honored as God. The Son too will appear equal to the Father, “that all may honor the Son as they honor the Father.” Now, then, hold this in faith. And let the Jew not say, “I honor the Father; what have I to do with the Son?” Let the answer be given him: “He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father.” You lie altogether: you blaspheme the Son and do injury to the Father. For the Father sent the Son; you despise the one he sent: how do you honor the sender, you who blaspheme the one sent?
John 5:22 (allusion, high confidence) · John 5:23 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: After the judgment the Son will appear equal to the Father, so that all honor the Son as the Father; whoever despises the Son dishonors the Father who sent him.
- John 5:23 is quoted. Augustine's address to “the Jew” is given as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark in the digital text): ergo' post → ergo post; honoriOcabatur → honorificabatur; Patcr enim → Pater enim.
Topics: Trinity, Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 21.16 (PL 35:1573; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/21-14/#p-21-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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21.17PL 35:1573
Ecce, inquit aliquis, missus est Filius; et major est Pater, quia misit. Recede a carne. Vetus homo suggerit vetustatem, tu in novo agnosce novi tatem. Novus tibi a sæculo antiquus, perpetuus, aeternus, revocet ad hoc intellectum. Minor est Filius, quia missus dictus est Filius? Missionem audio, non se parationem. Sed hoc, inquit, videmus in rebus huma nis, quia major est qui mittit, quam ille qui mittitur. Sed res humanæ fallunt hominem, res divinae purgant. Noli attendere ad res humanas, ubi major videtur qui mittit, et minor qui mittitur: quanquam et ipsae res humanae dicunt contra te testimonium. Velut, verbi gratia, si quis uxorem velit petere, et per se non possit, amicum majorem mittit qui ei petat. Et sunt multa in quibus ipse major eligitur, qui mittatur a minore. Quid ergo jam calumniam vis facere, quia ille misit, ille missus est? Sol radium mittit, et non separat; luna splendorem mittit, et non separat; lucerna lumen fundit, et non separat: video ibi missionem, et nullam video separationem. Nam si de rebus humanis quæris exempla, o hæretica vanitas, quanquam, sicut paulo ante dixi, et ipsae res humanæ. in quibusdam exemplis coarguunt et convincunt te; tamen attende quam sit aliud in rebus humanis, unde vis ducere exempla ad res divinas. Homo qui mittit. manet ipse, et pergit ille qui mittitur: numquid per git homo cum eo quem mittit? Pater autem qui misit Filium, non recessit a Filio. Ipsum Dominum audi dicentem, Ecce veniet hora, ut unusquisque discedat ad sua, et me solum relinquatis: sed non solus sum, quia Pater mecum est. Quomodo eum misit cum quo venit? quomodo eum misit a quo non reces sit? Alio loco dixit, Pater autem in me manens facit opera sua. Ecce in illo est, ecce ope ratur. Non recessit a misso mittens, quia missus et mittens unum sunt.
“See,” someone says, “the Son was sent; so the Father is greater, because he sent him.” Withdraw from the flesh. The old man suggests what is old; in the new, recognize what is new. Let the one who is new to you, ancient before the world, everlasting, eternal, call your understanding back to this. Is the Son less because the Son is said to have been sent? I hear of a sending, not of a separation. “But we see this,” he says, “in human affairs, that the one who sends is greater than the one who is sent.” But human affairs deceive a man; divine affairs cleanse him. Do not attend to human affairs, where the one who sends seems greater and the one sent lesser; although even human affairs bear witness against you. For example, if someone wants to seek a wife and cannot do so himself, he sends a greater friend to ask for her on his behalf. And there are many cases in which a greater person is chosen to be sent by a lesser. Why, then, do you now want to cavil because the one sent and the other was sent? The sun sends forth a ray and does not separate it; the moon sends forth its splendor and does not separate it; a lamp pours out light and does not separate it: I see sending there, and I see no separation. For if you seek examples from human affairs, O heretical vanity—although, as I said a little before, even human affairs refute and convict you in some examples—yet notice how different it is in human affairs, from which you want to draw examples for divine things. A man who sends stays himself, and the one who is sent goes: does the man go with the one he sends? But the Father who sent the Son did not withdraw from the Son. Hear the Lord himself saying, “See, the hour will come when each of you will go off to his own and you will leave me alone; but I am not alone, because the Father is with me.” How did he send him with whom he came? How did he send him from whom he did not withdraw? In another place he said, “But the Father, abiding in me, does his works.” See, he is in him; see, he works. The sender did not withdraw from the one sent, because the one sent and the sender are one.
John 5:23 (allusion, high confidence) · John 16:32 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:10 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:30 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Being sent does not make the Son less: sending implies no separation, as a ray from the sun, and the Father who sent him remained with him.
- John 16:32, John 14:10, and John 10:30 are drawn on; the reply is to those who rank the Son below the Father.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip and stray mark; stray mark in the digital text): Novus libi → Novus tibi; ad Inc intellectum → ad hoc intellectum; falluut hominem, res divinae purgaut → fallunt hominem, res divinae purgant; luna splendorem millit → luna splendorem mittit; mis- Monem * → missionem; in robus humanis → in rebus humanis; eum misit cam quo venit? quomodo cum misit → eum misit cum quo venit? quomodo eum misit; opera sua.. → opera sua..
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 21.17 (PL 35:1573; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/21-14/#p-21-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.