Tractates on the Gospel of John 67.1–70.3
Latin text: Migne, PL 35 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 7 (1888).
Chapter 67
67.1PL 35:1811
Erigenda est nobis, fratres, ad Deum major in tentio, ut verba sancti Evangelii, quæ modo in no stris auribus sonuerunt, etiam mente capere utcum que possimus. Ait enim Dominus Jesus: Non turbetur cor vestrum. Credite in Deum, et in me credite. Ne mortem tanquam homines timerent, et ideo turbarcn tur, consolatur eos, etiam se Deum esse contestans. Credite, inquit, in Deum, et in me credite. Consequens est enim ut si in Deum creditis, et in me credere debeatis: quod non esset consequens, si Christus non esset Deus. Credite in Deum, et in eum credite cui natura est, non rapina, esse æqualem Deo: se metipsum enim exinanivit; non tamen formam Dei amittens, sed formam servi accipiens. Mortem metuitis huic formæ servi; non turbetur cor vestrum, suscitabit illam forma Dei.
We must raise our attention more toward God, brothers, so that we may somehow grasp with the mind as well the words of the holy Gospel which have just sounded in our ears. For the Lord Jesus says: "Do not let your heart be troubled. Believe in God, and believe in me." So that they would not fear death as men do and be troubled for that reason, he consoles them, testifying also that he himself is God. "Believe in God," he says, "and believe in me." For it follows that if you believe in God, you ought also to believe in me; which would not follow if Christ were not God. "Believe in God, and believe in" him who is equal to God by nature, not by robbery; for he emptied himself, not losing the form of God but taking the form of a servant. You fear death for this form of a servant: do not let your heart be troubled; the form of God will raise it up.
John 14:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 2:7 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: In bidding the disciples believe in him as in God, Christ testifies that he is God, whose divine form will raise his servant form from death.
- John 14:1 is quoted; Phil 2:6–7 is in view.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): sancii → sancti; eliam mente → etiam mente; Art enim Dominus Jcsus → Ait enim Dominus Jesus.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 67.1 (PL 35:1811; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/67-1/#p-67-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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67.2PL 35:1811
Sed quid est quod sequitur, ln domo Patris mei mansiones multœ sunt, nisi quia et sibi metuebant? Unde audire debuerunt, Non turbetur cor vestrum. Quis enim eorum non metueret, cum Petro dictum esset fidentiori atque promptiori, Non cantabit gallus donec ter me neges? Tanquam ergo essent ab illo perituri, merito turbabantur: sed cum audiunt, In domo Patris mei mansiones multæ sunt: si quo minus, dixissem vobis quia vado parare vobis lo cum; a perturbatione recreantur, certi ac fidentes etiam post pericula tentationum se apud Deum cum Christo esse mansuros. Quia etsi alius est alio fortior, alius alio sapientior, alius alio justior, alius alio san clior; in domo Patris mansiones multæ sunt; nullus eorum alienabitur ab illa domo, ubi mansionem pro suo quisque accepturus est merito. Denarius quidem ille aequalis est omnibus, quem paterfamilias eis qui operati sunt in vinea jubet dari omnibus, non in eo dis cernens qui minus et qui amplius laborarunt: quo utique denario vita significatur æterna, ubi amplius alio nemo vivit, quoniam vivendi non est diversa in æternitate mensura. Sed multae mansiones, diversas meritorum in una vita æterna significant dignitates. Alia est enim gloria solis, alia gloria lunæ, alia gloria stellarum: stella enim ab stella differt in gloria; sic et resurrectio mortuorum. Tanquam stellae sancti diversas mansiones diversae claritatis, tanquam in cœlo, sortiuntur in regno; sed propter unum denarium nullus separatur a re gno: atque ita Deus erit omnia in omnibus, ut quoniam Deus Charitas est, per charitatem fiat ut quod habent singuli, commune sit omnibus. Sic enim quisque etiam ipse habet, cum amat in altero quod ipse non habet. Non erit itaque aliqua invidia imparis claritatis, quoniam regnabit in omnibus unitas charitatis.
But what is it that follows, "In my Father's house are many dwelling places," except that they were also afraid for themselves? Hence they had to hear, "Do not let your heart be troubled." For which of them would not be afraid, when it had been said to Peter, the more confident and ready one, "The cock will not crow until you deny me three times"? As though they were to be lost from him, then, they were rightly troubled; but when they hear, "In my Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you, for I am going to prepare a place for you," they are revived from their distress, sure and confident that even after the dangers of temptations they will dwell with God together with Christ. For though one is stronger than another, one wiser than another, one more righteous than another, one holier than another, "in my Father's house are many dwelling places"; none of them will be estranged from that house, where each will receive a dwelling place according to his own merit. The denarius indeed is equal for all, which the householder orders to be given to all who worked in the vineyard, making no distinction in it between those who labored less and those who labored more; by that denarius, certainly, eternal life is signified, where no one lives more than another, since in eternity there is no differing measure of life. But the many dwelling places signify the different ranks of merit in the one eternal life. "For there is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory; so also is the resurrection of the dead." Like stars, the saints are allotted different dwelling places of different brightness in the kingdom, as in the sky; but because of the one denarius no one is cut off from the kingdom. And so God will be all in all in such a way that, since God is love, it comes about through love that what each one has is common to all. For in this way each one also has it himself, when he loves in another what he himself does not have. So there will be no envy over unequal brightness, since the unity of love will reign in all.
John 14:2 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:1 (quotation, high confidence) · John 13:38 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 20:9 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 20:10 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:41 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:42 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:28 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 John 4:8 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The many dwelling places are different degrees of glory within the one eternal life, shared by all through love without envy.
- John 14:2, 14:1, 13:38, and 1 Cor 15:41–42 are quoted; the parable of the laborers (Matt 20:1–16), 1 Cor 15:28, and 1 John 4:8 are in view.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): metuebam Unde → metuebant? Unde; tentationam → tentationum; una vita alterna → una vita æterna; claritatis *, → claritatis,; ilL quoniam → ut quoniam; cHam ipse habet, cun amal → etiam ipse habet, cum amat; habel. Non crit itaqnc → habet. Non erit itaque.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 67.2 (PL 35:1811; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/67-1/#p-67-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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67.3PL 35:1811–1813
Proinde respuendi sunt a corde christiano, qui putant ideo dictum multas esse mansiones, quia extra regnum cœlorum erit aliquid, ubi maneant beati in nocentes qui sine Baptismo ex hac vita emigrarunt, quia sine illo in regnum coelorum intrare non pote runt. Hæc fides non est fides, quoniam non est vera et catholica fides. Itane tandem stulti homines, et carnalibus cogitationibus excæcati, cum reprobandi essetis, si mansionem non dico Petri et Pauli vel cujus libet Apostolorum, sed cujuscumque parvuli bapti zati a regno coelorum separaretis; non vos putatis esse reprobandos, qui domum Dei Patris inde sepa ratis? Non enim ait Dominus, In universo mundo, aut, in universa creatura, aut, in vita vel beatitudine sempiterna mansiones multæ sunt; sed, In domo, in quit, Patris mei mansiones multæ sunt. Nonne ista est domus ubi ædificationem habemus ex Deo, domum non manufactam, æternam in cœlis? Nonne ista est domus de qua cantamus Domino, Beati qui habitant in domo tua; in sœculu sœculorum laudabunt te? Ergone vos non do mum cujusque baptizati fratris, sed domum ipsius Dei Patris, cui omnes fratres dicimus, Pater noster, qui es in coelis, a regno separare coelo rum, aut eam sic dividere audebitis, ut aliquæ man siones ejus sint in regno coelorum, aliquae autem ex tra regnum cœlorum? Absit, absit ut qui volunt ha bitare in regno coelorum, in -hac stultitia velint habi fare vobiscum: absit, inquam, ut cum omnis domus regnantium filiorum non sit alibi nisi in regno, ipsius regiae domus pars aliqua non sit in regno.
Therefore a Christian heart must reject those who think that many dwelling places are spoken of because there will be something outside the kingdom of heaven where the innocents who have departed this life without baptism may remain in blessedness, since without baptism they will not be able to enter the kingdom of heaven. This faith is not faith, since it is not the true and catholic faith. Is it so, then, you foolish men, blinded by fleshly thoughts? Whereas you would deserve censure if you separated from the kingdom of heaven the dwelling place, I do not say of Peter and Paul or any of the apostles, but of any baptized little child, do you not think you deserve censure, you who separate from it the house of God the Father? For the Lord did not say, "In the whole world," or "In the whole creation," or "In everlasting life or blessedness there are many dwelling places," but "In my Father's house," he says, "are many dwelling places." Is this not the house where "we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens"? Is this not the house of which we sing to the Lord, "Blessed are those who dwell in your house; they will praise you for ever and ever"? Will you then dare to separate from the kingdom of heaven not the house of some baptized brother but the house of God the Father himself, to whom all of us brothers say, "Our Father who art in heaven," or to divide it so that some of its dwelling places are in the kingdom of heaven and some outside the kingdom of heaven? Far be it, far be it, that those who wish to dwell in the kingdom of heaven should wish to dwell with you in this folly; far be it, I say, that, since the whole house of the reigning sons is nowhere but in the kingdom, some part of the royal house itself should not be in the kingdom.
John 14:2 (quotation, high confidence) · John 3:5 (allusion, medium confidence) · 2 Cor 5:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 84:4 (83:5 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 6:9 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine rejects the view that some of the many dwelling places lie outside the kingdom of heaven as a place of blessedness for unbaptized infants.
- Augustine rejects a view (held in his day by Pelagians) that infants who die unbaptized, though excluded from the kingdom of heaven, enjoy a blessed dwelling outside it; translated as written. John 14:2, 2 Cor 5:1, Ps 84:4 (LXX 83:5), and Matt 6:9 are quoted; John 3:5 is in view.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): Proindc → Proinde; a eorde → a corde; idco dictum → ideo dictum; mancant → maneant; Itanc taudem → Itane tandem; ct carnalibus → et carnalibus; separarclis → separaretis; l'atris inde → Patris inde; vcl bcalitudine → vel beatitudine; mausioncs → mansiones; habcmus → habemus; aternam in calis → æternam in cœlis; cst donnus → est domus; Doniino → Domino; sca domum → sed domum; scpararc → separare; cam sic dividcre → eam sic dividere; aliqux → aliquæ.
Topics: Baptism, Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 67.3 (PL 35:1811–1813; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/67-1/#p-67-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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67.4PL 35:1813
Et si abiero, inquit, et prœparavero vobis locum; iterum venio, et accipiam vos ad meipsum, ut ubi sum ego et vos sitis. Et quo ego vado scitis, et viam scitis. O Domine Jesu, quomodo vadis parare locum, si jam multæ mansiones sunt in domo Patris tui, ubi tecum habitabunt tui! Aut si accipis eos ad teipsum, quo modo iterum venis qui non recedis? Ista, charissimi, si breviter explicare conemur, quantum videtur ho dierno satis esse sermoni, coarctata utique non cla rebunt; et erit ipsa brevitas altera obscuritas: pro inde hoc debitum differamus, quod opportunius vo bis Patrefamilias nostro largiente reddamus.
"And if I go," he says, "and prepare a place for you, I will come again and take you to myself, so that where I am you also may be. And where I am going you know, and the way you know." O Lord Jesus, how are you going to prepare a place, if there are already many dwelling places in your Father's house, where your own will dwell with you? Or if you take them to yourself, how do you come again, you who do not depart? If we try to explain these things briefly, beloved, as much as seems enough for today's sermon, they will certainly not be clear when compressed, and the brevity itself will be another obscurity. So let us put off this debt, to pay it to you more fittingly when our householder grants it.
John 14:3 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:4 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine raises the puzzles of John 14:3–4 and defers their explanation.
- John 14:3–4 is quoted.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): Jcsu → Jesu; Patris lui → Patris tui; salis esse → satis esse; iNsa → ipsa.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 67.4 (PL 35:1813; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/67-1/#p-67-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 68
68.1PL 35:1813
Deberi vobis, fratres charissimi, jamque esse reddendum quod distuleramus, agnoscimus, quo modo intelligi possint non esse inter se ista duo con lraria, quod cum dixisset Dominus, In domo Patris mei mansiones multæ sunt: si quo minus, dixissem vo bia quia vado parare vobis locum; ubi satis ostendit ideo se hoc illis dixisse, quia jam ibi sunt mansiones multæ, et non est opus aliquam præparare: rursus dicit: Et si abiero, et præparavero vobis locum; ite rum venio, et accipiam vos ad me ipsum, ut ubi ego sum et vos sitis. Quomodo vadit, et parat locum, si jam multæ mansiones sunt? Si quo minus, dixisset, Vado parare. Aut si adhuc parandus est, cur non me rito dixisset, Vado parare? An istæ mansiones et sunt, et parandæ sunt? Si quo minus enim essent, dixisset, Vado parare. Et tamcn quia ita suntutpa randæ sint, non eas vadit parare sicut sunt: sed si abierit et paraverit sicut futuræ sunt, iterum vc niens accipiet suos ad seipsum, ut ubi est ipse, sint etiam ipsi. Quomodo ergo mansiones in domo Patris non aliae, sed ipsae, et sine dubio jam sunt sicut pa randae non sunt, et nondum sunt sicut parandæ sunt? Quomodo putamus, nisi quomodo etiam propheta praedicat Deum, quia fecit quæ futura sunt? Non enim ait, Qui facturus est quæ futura sunt, sed. Qui fecit quæ futura sunt. Ergo et fecit ea, et facturus est ea. Nam neque facta sunt, si ipse non fecit: neque futura sunt, si ipse non fe cerit. Fecit ergo ea praedeslinando, facturus est opc rando. Sicut discipulos quando elegerit, satis indicat Evangelium; tunc utique quando eos vocavit: et tamen ait Apostolus, Elegit nos ante mundi constitutionem: prædestinando utique, non vocando. Quos autem prædestinavit, illos et vocavit: elegit prædestinando ante mundi constitutionem, elegit vocando ante mundi con summationem. Sic et mansiones praeparavit et prae parat; nec alias, sed quas præparavit, has præparat, qui fecit quae futura sunt: quas præparavit praedesti nando, præparat operando. Jam ergo sunt in præ destinatione: si quo minus, dixisset, Ibo et parabo, id est, prædestinabo. Sed quia nondum sunt in ope ratione, Et si abiero, inquit, et præparavero vobis locum; iterum venio, et accipiam vos ad meipsum.
We acknowledge, dearest brothers, that we owe you, and must now pay, what we had put off: how these two statements can be understood not to contradict each other. When the Lord had said, "In my Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you, for I am going to prepare a place for you," where he shows clearly enough that he said this to them because there are already many dwelling places there and there is no need to prepare any, he says again: "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and take you to myself, so that where I am you also may be." How does he go and prepare a place, if there are already many dwelling places? If it were not so, he would have said, "I am going to prepare." Or if it is still to be prepared, why would he not rightly have said, "I am going to prepare"? Or are these dwelling places both in existence and yet to be prepared? For if they did not exist, he would have said, "I am going to prepare." And yet, because they exist in such a way that they are to be prepared, he does not go to prepare them as they already are; but if he goes and prepares them as they are to be, then, coming again, he will take his own to himself, so that where he is, they also may be. How then are the dwelling places in the Father's house, not others but the very same, both already in existence beyond doubt in the way in which they need no preparing, and not yet in existence in the way in which they are to be prepared? How, do we think, except in the way the prophet also proclaims God, that "he made the things that are to be"? For he does not say, "who will make the things that are to be," but "who made the things that are to be." So he both made them and will make them. For they have not been made if he did not make them, nor will they be if he does not make them. He made them, then, by predestining; he will make them by working. So too the Gospel shows clearly enough when he chose the disciples: certainly at the time when he called them; and yet the Apostle says, "He chose us before the foundation of the world": by predestining, certainly, not by calling. "And those whom he predestined, he also called": he chose by predestining before the foundation of the world; he chose by calling before the consummation of the world. So too he both prepared and prepares the dwelling places; nor does he prepare others, but those he prepared he prepares, he who made the things that are to be: he prepared them by predestining, he prepares them by working. So they already exist in predestination; if it were not so, he would have said, "I will go and prepare," that is, "I will predestine." But because they do not yet exist in the working out, "And if I go," he says, "and prepare a place for you, I will come again and take you to myself."
John 14:2 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 45:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 1:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:30 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The dwelling places already exist in God's predestination but are still being prepared in his working, as the disciples were chosen both before the world and when they were called.
- John 14:2–3, Isa 45:11 (LXX, "who made the things that are to be"), Eph 1:4, and Rom 8:30 are quoted. The teaching on predestination is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's inline Scripture reference (leaked); OCR slip): met mansiones → mei mansiones; salis ostendit → satis ostendit; pracparare → præparare; ten o, → venio,; jam inultae → jam multæ; Ant si adhuc parandus eft → Aut si adhuc parandus est; pararc sicut → parare sicut; sco si abierit → sed si abierit; ul ubi est → ut ubi est; aHiam → etiam; ct nondum → et nondum; suut? → sunt?; cHam propheta → etiam propheta; quai futura → quæ futura; Noh enim → Non enim; (Isa. XLV, ii, sec. LXX) → ; facturus est ca. → facturus est ea.; salis indicat → satis indicat; antc mundi → ante mundi; mansioncs praeparavit ct → mansiones praeparavit et; sod quas → sed quas; mcipsum → meipsum.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 68.1 (PL 35:1813; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/67-1/#p-68-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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68.2PL 35:1813–1815
Parat autem quodammodo mansiones, mansio nibus parando mansores. Quippe cum dixerit, In do. mo Patris met mansiones multæ sunt; quid putamus esse domum Dei, nisi templum Dei? Quod autem sit, interrogetur Apostolus, et respondeat: Templum enim Dei sanctum est, quod estis vos. Hoc est etiam regnum Dei, quod Filius traditurus est Patri: unde dicit idem apostolus, Initium Christus, deinde qui sunt Christi in prœsentia ejus: deinde finis, cum tradiderit regnum Deo et Patri; id est, quos redemit sanguine suo, tradiderit contem plando etiam Patri suo. Hoc est regnum cœlorum, de quo dicitur, Simile est regnum cælorum homini semi nanti bonum semen in agro suo. Bonum autem semen, hi sunt filii regni: qui etsi nunc habent permixta zi zania, mittet in fine rex ipse Angelos suos, et colli gent de regno ejus omnia scandala. Tunc justi fulge bunt sicut sol in regno Patris sui. Regnum fulgebit in regno, cum regno vene. rit regnum, quod nunc oramus, et dicimus, Veniat regnum tuum. Nunc ergo jam regnum vocatur, sed adhuc convocatur: si enim regnum non vocaretur, Colligent de regno ejus omnia scandala, non diceretur. Sed nondum regnat hoc regnum. Proinde sic jam est regnum, ut cum de illo collecta fuerint omnia scandala, tunc perveniat ad regnum; ut non solum regni nomen, sed etiam regnandi habeat po testatem. Huic quippe regno ad dexteram stanti, in fine dicetur, Venite, benedicti Patris mei, percipite regnum: id est, qui regnum eratis et non regnabatis, venite, regnate; ut quod in spe fue ratis, etiam in re esse possitis. Hæc ergo domus Dei, hoc templum Dei, hoc regnum Dei, regnumque cae lorum adhuc ædificatur, adhuc fabricatur, adhuc pa ratur, adhuc congregatur. In illo erunt mansiones, sicut eas adhuc parat Dominus: in illo jam sunt, sicut prædestinavit jam Dominus.
He prepares the dwelling places, in a certain way, by preparing dwellers for the dwelling places. For when he said, "In my Father's house are many dwelling places," what do we think the house of God is but the temple of God? What that is, let the Apostle be asked, and let him answer: "For God's temple is holy, which you are." This is also the kingdom of God, which the Son is to hand over to the Father; hence the same apostle says: "Christ the beginning, then those who are Christ's at his coming; then the end, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father"; that is, when he hands over to his Father, for contemplation as well, those whom he redeemed with his blood. This is the kingdom of heaven, of which it is said, "The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field." "And the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom": though they now have weeds mixed among them, at the end the King himself will send his angels, and "they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of stumbling. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father." The kingdom will shine in the kingdom, when the kingdom comes to the kingdom, which we now pray for when we say, "Your kingdom come." Now, then, it is already called a kingdom, but it is still being called together; for if it were not called a kingdom, it would not be said, "They will gather out of his kingdom all causes of stumbling." But this kingdom does not yet reign. So it is already a kingdom in such a way that, when all causes of stumbling have been gathered out of it, it will then come to reign, so that it has not only the name of a kingdom but also the power of reigning. For to this kingdom standing at the right hand it will be said at the end: "Come, you blessed of my Father, receive the kingdom"; that is, you who were a kingdom and did not reign, come, reign, so that what you had been in hope you may also be in reality. This house of God, then, this temple of God, this kingdom of God and kingdom of heaven, is still being built, still being constructed, still being prepared, still being gathered. In it there will be dwelling places, as the Lord is still preparing them; in it there already are, as the Lord has already predestined.
John 14:2 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 3:17 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:23 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 13:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 13:38 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 13:41 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 13:43 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 6:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 25:34 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The Father's house is the church, God's temple and kingdom, which now exists in name and hope and will reign when the wicked are gathered out of it.
- John 14:2, 1 Cor 3:17, 1 Cor 15:23–24, Matt 13:24, 38, 41, 43, Matt 6:10, and Matt 25:34 are quoted. Augustine plays on vocatur ("is called") and convocatur ("is called together").
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's inline Scripture reference (leaked); OCR slip; stray mark): autcm quodammodo → autem quodammodo; mansorcs → mansores; Qu:ppe → Quippe; Quod autcm sit → Quod autem sit; Templum cnim → Templum enim; (! Cor. III, 17) → ; eliam regnum Dci → etiam regnum Dei; Palri → Patri; fegnum → regnum; scandula, nop dicerctur → scandala, non diceretur; scaidala → scandala; quippo → quippe; id cst, qui regnum cratis cl → id est, qui regnum eratis et; cliam in re → etiam in re; domus Dci, huc templum Dei, hoc regnum Oei. → domus Dei, hoc templum Dei, hoc regnum Dei,; ardificatur → ædificatur; fabricatur I, → fabricatur,; paral Dominus → parat Dominus.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 68.2 (PL 35:1813–1815; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/67-1/#p-68-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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68.3PL 35:1815
Sed quid est quod ut præpararet abiit, cum pro fecto nos ipsos præpararet, quod non faciet si reli querit? Agnosco, Domine, ut possum: nimirum illud significas, quia ut parentur istac mansiones, vivere debet justus ex fide. Qui enim a Domino peregrinamur, opus habet ex fide vivere; quia per hanc ad speciem contemplandam paratur. Beati enim mundo corde, quia ipsi Deum vide bunt: et, Fide mundans corda eorum. Illud in Evangelio, hoc in Apostolorum Acti bus legitur. Fides autem, qua eorum qui Deum visuri sunt, quamdiu peregrinantur, corda mundan tur, quod non videt credit: nam si vides, non est fides. Credenti colligitur meritum, videnti redditur praemium. Eat ergo Dominus et paret locum; eat ne videatur, lateat ut credatur. Tunc enim locus pa ratur, si ex fide vivatur. Creditus desideretur, ut desideratus habeatur: desiderium dilectionis, præpa ratio est mansionis. Ita, Domine, para quod paras: nos enim tibi paras, et te nobis paras; quoniam lo cum paras, et tibi in nobis, et in te nobis. Tu enim dixisti, Manete in me, et ego in vobis. Quantum quisque fuerit particeps tui, alius minus, alius amplius, hæc erit diversitas præmiorum pro di versitate meritorum: hæc erit multitudo mansionum pro disparilitate mansorum; sed tamen omnium in æternitate vivorum, et sine fine beatorum. Quid est quod vadis? quid est quod venis? Si bene te intelligo, nec unde vadis nec unde venis, recedis: vadis la tendo, venis apparendo. Sed nisi maneas regendo, ut proficiamus bene vivendo; quomodo parabitur lo cus ubi possimus manere perfruendo? Hæc de verbis quæ recitata sunt evangelicis, satis dicta sint, quo usque ait Dominus, Iterum venio, et accipiam vos ad meipsum. Quid autem sit quod sequitur, Ut ubi ego sum, et vos sitis. Et quo ego vado scitis, et viam scitis; post interrogationem quæ sequitur a discipulo factam, tanquam per eum et nos interrogemus, melius au diemus opportuniusque tractabimus.
But why did he go away to prepare, when surely he was preparing us ourselves, which he will not do if he leaves us? I recognize it, Lord, as best I can: you surely signify this, that for these dwelling places to be prepared, "the righteous must live by faith." For whoever is away from the Lord needs to live by faith, because by it he is prepared for beholding the sight. For "blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God"; and "cleansing their hearts by faith." The one is read in the Gospel, the other in the Acts of the Apostles. But faith, by which the hearts of those who will see God are cleansed while they are away from home, believes what it does not see; for if you see, it is not faith. To the believer merit is gathered; to the one who sees, the reward is paid. Let the Lord go, then, and prepare a place; let him go so that he is not seen, let him be hidden so that he is believed. For the place is prepared if one lives by faith. Let him be desired as believed in, so that he may be possessed as desired: the desire of love is the preparation of the dwelling place. So, Lord, prepare what you are preparing: for you are preparing us for yourself and yourself for us, since you are preparing a place both for yourself in us and for us in you. For you said, "Abide in me, and I in you." As far as each has been a sharer in you, one less, another more, this will be the diversity of rewards according to the diversity of merits; this will be the multitude of dwelling places according to the inequality of the dwellers, yet all of them living in eternity and blessed without end. What is it that you go? What is it that you come? If I understand you rightly, you withdraw neither from the place you go from nor from the place you come from: you go by being hidden, you come by appearing. But unless you remain to rule us, so that we make progress by living well, how will the place be prepared where we can remain in full enjoyment? Let this suffice on the words of the Gospel that have been read, up to where the Lord says, "I will come again and take you to myself." But what follows means, "so that where I am you also may be; and where I am going you know, and the way you know," we shall hear better and treat more fittingly after the question that follows, put by a disciple, as if we too were asking through him.
Hab 2:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:17 (quotation, medium confidence) · 2 Cor 5:6 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 5:7 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 5:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 15:9 (quotation, high confidence) · John 15:4 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:3 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:4 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ goes away to prepare the place by making us live by faith, which cleanses the heart for the sight of God; the dwelling places differ as merits differ.
- Hab 2:4 (Rom 1:17), Matt 5:8, Acts 15:9, John 15:4, and John 14:3–4 are quoted; 2 Cor 5:6–7 is in view.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): posSum → possum; DominO → Domino; mundal corda → mundans corda; corum qui → eorum qui; quamdin peregrlantur → quamdiu peregrinantur; videnii → videnti; ci paret → et paret; eat ue videatur → eat ne videatur; desidcrinm → desiderium; Tu cnim → Tu enim; Qnantum → Quantum; crit multitudo m.in ionum → erit multitudo mansionum; quid cst quod venis → quid est quod venis; bcno → bene; mancas → maneas; qua; sequitur → quæ sequitur.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 68.3 (PL 35:1815; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/67-1/#p-68-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 69
69.1PL 35:1815
Nunc est, dilectissimi, ut quantum valemus, in telligamus de verbis Domini posterioribus priora, et consequentibus præcedentia, in eo quod audistis apostolo Thomæ interroganti esse responsum. Di xerat enim superius Dominus, cum de mansionibus loqueretur, quas et esse dixit in domo Patris sui, et ire se ut præparet eas; ubi intelleximus et esse jam mansiones ipsas in prædestinatione, et præparari eas cum eorum qui ibi mansuri sunt, per fidem corda mundantur, quoniam ipsa Dei domus ipsi sunt; et quid est aliud manere in domo Dei, quam esse in populo Dei, cum idem populus est in Deo, et Deus in eo? hoc ut præpararet, Dominus abiit; ut credendo in eum qui non videtur, ea quæ in specie semper futura est, nunc per fidem mansio præparetur: propter hoc ergo dixerat, Et si abiero, et praeparavero vobis locum, iterum venio, et accipiam vos ad meipsum, ut ubi ego sum et vos sitis. Et quo ego vado scitis, et viam scitis. Ad haec dicit ei Thomas: Domine, nescimus quo vadis; et quomodo possumus viam scire? Utrumque illos Dominus dixerat scire, utrumque dicit iste nescire, et locum quo itur, et viam qua itur. Sed nescit ille mentiri: ergo isti sciebant, et scire se nesciebant. Convincat eos jam scire, quod se putant adhuc usque nescire. Dicit ei Jesus: Ego sum via, et veritas, et vita. Quid est, fra tres? Ecce audivimus discipulum interrogantem, audivimus et magistrum docentem, et nondum capi mus, etiam post vocem sonantem, sententiam lati tantem. Sed quid non possumus capere? Numquid poterant ei dicere Apostoli ejus cum quibus loqueba tur, Nescimus te? Proinde si eum sciebant, et via ipse est, viam sciebant: si eum sciebant, et veritas ipse est, veritatem sciebant: si eum sciebant, et vita ipse est, vitam sciebant. Ecce scire convicti sunt quod se scire nesciebant.
Now, beloved, let us understand as best we can the Lord's earlier words from his later ones, and what precedes from what follows, in the answer you heard given to the apostle Thomas when he asked. For the Lord had said above, when he spoke of the dwelling places, both that they are in his Father's house and that he was going to prepare them. There we understood both that the dwelling places themselves already exist in predestination, and that they are prepared when the hearts of those who will dwell there are cleansed by faith, since they themselves are God's house; and what else is it to dwell in God's house than to be among God's people, since that people is in God and God in it? To prepare this the Lord went away, so that by believing in him who is not seen, the dwelling place which will forever be in sight might now be prepared by faith. For this reason, then, he had said: "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and take you to myself, so that where I am you also may be. And where I am going you know, and the way you know." To this Thomas says to him: "Lord, we do not know where you are going; and how can we know the way?" The Lord had said that they knew both; this man says they know neither, the place to which one goes or the way by which one goes. But he cannot lie; so they knew, and did not know that they knew. Let him convince them that they already know what they think they still do not know. "Jesus says to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life." What is this, brothers? See, we have heard the disciple asking, we have heard the master teaching too, and even after the voice has sounded we do not yet grasp the hidden meaning. But what is it we cannot grasp? Could his apostles, with whom he was speaking, say to him, "We do not know you"? So if they knew him, and he is the way, they knew the way; if they knew him, and he is the truth, they knew the truth; if they knew him, and he is the life, they knew the life. See, they are shown to know what they did not know they knew.
John 14:3 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:4 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:5 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:6 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Since Christ is the way, the truth, and the life, the disciples who knew him already knew the way without knowing it.
- John 14:3–6 is quoted.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; missing space): est,dilectissimi → est, dilectissimi; qnod audistis → quod audistis; ct quid cst aliud manere in donno → et quid est aliud manere in domo; cst in Deo → est in Deo; Dominiis abiit → Dominus abiit; et possitis → et vos sitis; ei quomodo possumus → et quomodo possumus; dixcrat → dixerat; sciebint → sciebant; sum ria → sum via; NumquiJ → Numquid; si um sciebant → si eum sciebant.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 69.1 (PL 35:1815; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/67-1/#p-69-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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69.2PL 35:1815–1817
Quid igitur et nos in isto sermone non cepimus? Quid putatis, fratres mei, nisi quia dixit, Et quo vado scitis, et viam scitis? Et ecce cognovimus quod scie bant viam, quia sciebant ipsum qui est via: sed via est qua itur; numquid via est et quo itur? Utrumque autem illos dixerat scire, et quo vadit, et viam. Opus ergo erat ut diceret, Ego sum via, ut ostenderet eis qui eum scirent, viam scire quam putaverant se ne. scire: quid autem opus erat ut diceret, Ego sum via, et veritas, et vita, cum via cognita qua iret, restaret nosse quo iret; nisi quia ibat ad veritatem, ibat ad vitam? Ibat ergo ad seipsum, per scipsum. Et nos quo imus, nisi ad ipsum? et qua imus, nisi per ipsum? Ipse igitur ad scipsum per seipsum; nos ad ipsum per ipsum: imo vero et ad Patrem et ipse et nos. Nam et de scipso alibi dicit, Ad Patrem vado: et hoc loco propter nos, Nemo, inquit, ve nit ad Patrem, nisi per me. Ac per hoc et ipse per se ipsum et ad scipsum ct ad Patrem, et nos per ipsum et ad ipsum et ad Patrem. Quis hæc capit, nisi qui spiritualiter sapit? Et quantum est quod hic capit, etiamsi spiritualiter sapit? Fratres, quid a me ista vobis vultis exponi? Cogitate quam excelsa sint. Vi detis quid sim, video quid sitis: in omnibus nobis corpus quod corrumpitur aggravat animam, etdepri mit terrena inhabitatio sensum multa cogitantem. Putamusne possumus dicere. Ad te levavi animam meam, qui habitas in cælo? Sed sub tanto pondere ubi ingemiscimus gravati, quomodo levabo animam meam, nisi mecum levet qui posuit pro me suam? Dicam ergo quod possum, ca piat vestrum qui potest. Quo donante dico, co do nante capit qui capit, et eo donante credit qui nondum capit. Nisi enim credideritis, inquit propheta, non in telligetis.
What then have we too failed to grasp in this discourse? What do you think, my brothers, except that he said, "And where I am going you know, and the way you know"? And see, we have learned that they knew the way, because they knew him who is the way. But the way is that by which one goes; is the way also where one goes? Yet he had said they knew both, where he was going and the way. So there was need for him to say, "I am the way," to show those who knew him that they knew the way which they had thought they did not know; but what need was there for him to say, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life," when, once the way by which he was going was known, it remained to know where he was going, unless it was because he was going to the truth, going to the life? So he was going to himself through himself. And where do we go but to him? And by what way do we go but through him? He, then, goes to himself through himself; we go to him through him; or rather both he and we go to the Father. For elsewhere he says of himself, "I go to the Father"; and in this place, for our sake, he says, "No one comes to the Father except through me." And so he goes through himself both to himself and to the Father, and we go through him both to him and to the Father. Who grasps these things except one who has spiritual understanding? And how much does he grasp here, even if he has spiritual understanding? Brothers, why do you want these things explained to you by me? Consider how lofty they are. You see what I am; I see what you are: in all of us "the body that is corrupted weighs down the soul, and the earthly dwelling presses down the mind that thinks many things." Do we think we can say, "To you I have lifted up my soul, you who dwell in heaven"? But under so great a weight, where we groan, weighed down, how shall I lift up my soul, unless he lifts it with me who laid down his own for me? So I will say what I can; let him among you grasp it who can. By his gift I speak; by his gift he grasps who grasps; and by his gift he believes who does not yet grasp. "For unless you believe," says the prophet, "you will not understand."
John 14:4 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:28 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 25:1 (24:1 LXX) (quotation, medium confidence) · Ps 123:1 (122:1 LXX) (allusion, medium confidence) · John 10:15 (allusion, medium confidence) · Isa 7:9 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ goes through himself to himself and to the Father, and we go through him to him and to the Father; such heights are grasped only by God's gift.
- John 14:4, 14:28, 14:6, Isa 7:9 (LXX), and Wis 9:15 are quoted; "To you I have lifted up my soul" combines Ps 25:1 (LXX 24:1) and Ps 123:1 (LXX 122:1); John 10:15 is in view.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; missing punctuation): cepimus Quid → cepimus? Quid; qnia dixit → quia dixit; quo Hur → quo itur; cus qui cum scirent → eis qui eum scirent; qunm → quam; Ego sum aia → Ego sum via; ima vero → imo vero; ct ad Putrem → et ad Patrem; quantum cst quod → quantum est quod; spiritualitcr → spiritualiter; isia vobis → ista vobis; silis → sitis; tevavi → levavi; cæto → cælo; pondera ubi → pondere ubi; Dieam → Dicam; Ntsi enim credideritis, inqu propheta → Nisi enim credideritis, inquit propheta.
Extrabiblical texts: Wis 9:15 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 69.2 (PL 35:1815–1817; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/67-1/#p-69-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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69.3PL 35:1817
Dic mihi, Domine meus, quid dicam servis tuis conservis meis? Thomas apostolus ut te interrogaret, habuit te ante se; nec tamen intelligeret te, nisi ha beret in se: ego interrogo te, quia te scio esse super me; interrogo autem in quantum possum super me effundere animam meam, ubi non sonantem et tamen docentem audiam te. Dic mihi, obsecro, quomodo vadis ad te. Numquidnam ut venires ad nos, relique ras te: maxime quia non a teipso venisti, sed Pater te misit? Scio quidem quod te exinanisti; sed quia formam servi accepisti, non quia for mam Dei vel ad quam redires demisisti, vel quam reciperes amisisti: et tamen venisti, et non solum usque ad carnales oculos, verum etiam usque ad manus hominum pervenisti. Quomodo, nisi in carne? Per hanc venisti manens ubi eras, per hanc redisti non relinquens quo veneras. Si ergo per hanc venisti et redisti; per hanc procul dubio non solum nobis es qua veniremus ad te, verum etiam tibi qua venires et redires, via fuisti. Cum vero ad vitam, quod es ipse, isti; eamdem profecto carnem tuam de morte ad vitam duxisti. Aliud quippe Dei Verbum est, aliud homo: sed Verbum caro factum est, id est homo. Non itaque alia Verbi, alia est hominis persona, quo niam utrumque est Christus una persona: ac per hoc quemadmodum caro cum mortua est, Christus est mortuus; et cum caro sepulta est, Christus est sepuf tus ( sic enim corde credimus ad justitiam, sic ore confessionem facimus ad salutem); ita cum caro a morte venit ad vitam, Christus venit ad vitam. Et quia Verbum Dei Christus est, Christus est vita. Ita miro quodam et ineffabili modo, qui nun quam demisit vel amisit seipsum, venit ad seipsum. Venerat autem, ut dictum est, per carnem Deus ad homines, veritas ad mendaces: Deus enim verax, omnis autem homo mendax. Cum itaque ab hominibus abstulit, atque illuc ubi nemo mentitur, carnem suam levavit; idem ipse, quia Verbum caro factum est, per seipsum, id est per carnem, ad veri tatem, quod est ipse, remeavit. Quam quidem verita tem, quamvis inter mendaces, et in morte servavit: aliquando enim Christus fuit mortuus, sed nunquam fuit falsus.
Tell me, my Lord, what shall I say to your servants, my fellow servants? The apostle Thomas had you before him in order to ask you; yet he would not have understood you unless he had you within him. I ask you, because I know you are above me; and I ask insofar as I can pour out my soul above myself, where I may hear you, not sounding and yet teaching. Tell me, I beg you, how you go to yourself. Had you left yourself in order to come to us, especially since you did not come of yourself, but the Father sent you? I know indeed that you emptied yourself; but this was because you took the form of a servant, not because you laid aside the form of God to return to it, or lost it to receive it back; and yet you came, and arrived not only before fleshly eyes but even into the hands of men. How, except in the flesh? Through it you came while remaining where you were; through it you returned without leaving the place you had come to. If then through it you came and returned, through it beyond doubt you were the way not only for us, by which we might come to you, but also for yourself, by which you might come and return. And when you went to the life, which you yourself are, you surely led that same flesh of yours from death to life. For the Word of God is one thing, man another; but "the Word became flesh," that is, man. So the person of the Word is not one and that of the man another, since both are Christ, one person; and therefore, just as when the flesh died Christ died, and when the flesh was buried Christ was buried (for so "we believe with the heart unto righteousness," so "we make confession with the mouth unto salvation"), so when the flesh came from death to life, Christ came to life. And because Christ is the Word of God, Christ is the life. Thus in a wonderful and ineffable way he who never laid aside or lost himself came to himself. For God had come, as has been said, through the flesh to men, the truth to liars: for "God is true, but every man a liar." So when he withdrew his flesh from men and lifted it up to where no one lies, the same one, because "the Word became flesh," returned through himself, that is, through the flesh, to the truth which he himself is. And this truth he kept even among liars and in death: for Christ was once dead, but never false.
Ps 42:4 (41:5 LXX) (allusion, medium confidence) · John 8:42 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 2:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 17:22 (echo, low confidence) · John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 10:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 3:4 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ, one person as Word and flesh, came to us and returned to himself through the flesh, so that he is the way even for himself.
- Ps 42:4 (LXX 41:5) is echoed; John 8:42, Phil 2:7, John 1:14, Rom 10:10, and Rom 3:4 are quoted or used. The statement that Christ is one person in two natures is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (joined words); stray mark): nee tamen → nec tamen; clfundere → effundere; milii → mihi; ettamen → et tamen; uranius → manus; Ycrbi, alia cst → Verbi, alia est; VerbUm → Verbum; inefFabili → ineffabili; horno mendax → homo mendax; quia- Verbum → quia Verbum; earnem, ad → carnem, ad; mendaccs → mendaces.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 69.3 (PL 35:1817; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/67-1/#p-69-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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69.4PL 35:1817
Accipite quamvis diversum et longe impar exemplum, tamen utcumque ad intelligendum Deum, ex his quæ propius subjecta sunt Deo. Ecce ego ipse, quantum attinet ad animum meum, cum hoc sim quod estis et vos, si taceo, apud meipsum sum: si autem loquor vobis quod intelligatis, quodammodo ad vos procedo, nec me relinquo, sed et ad vos accedo, et non recedo unde procedo. Cum autem tacuero, quo dammodo ad me redeo; et quodammodo vobiscum maneo, si tenueritis quod audistis in sermone quem dico. Si hoc potest imago quam fecit Deus, quid po. test non a Deo facta, sed ex Deo nata imago Dei Deus: cujus illud, quo ad nos egressus est, et in quo a nobis regressus est, corpus, non sicut meus elapsus est sonus, sed manet ibi ubi jam non moritur, et mors ei ultra non dominabitur? Multa de his evangelicis verbis adhuc dici fortasse poterant et de bebant: sed non sunt corda vestra spiritualibus cibis quamlibet suavibus oneranda; maxime quia spiritus promptus est, caro autem infirma.
Take an example, different and far from equal, yet in some way useful for understanding God, from things more nearly subject to God. See, I myself, as far as my mind is concerned, since I am what you also are: if I am silent, I am with myself; but if I speak to you something you may understand, I in a way go out to you, and I do not leave myself, but I both come to you and do not withdraw from where I go out. And when I have fallen silent, I in a way return to myself; and in a way I remain with you, if you hold on to what you heard in the sermon I am giving. If the image that God made can do this, what can the image of God do, not made by God but born of God, himself God? His body, by which he went out to us and in which he went back from us, did not slip away as my sound does, but remains there where it no longer dies, and death will no longer have dominion over it. Much more could perhaps, and should, still be said on these words of the Gospel; but your hearts are not to be overloaded with spiritual food, however sweet; especially since "the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak."
Gen 1:27 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 6:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 26:41 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: As a speaker goes out to his hearers without leaving himself, so, far more, the Son, God born of God, came to us and returned without leaving himself.
- Rom 6:9 and Matt 26:41 are quoted; Gen 1:27 is in view.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): gxemplum → exemplum; ego ipso → ego ipse; attinct → attinet; lOquor → loquor; profedo → procedo; nou recedo → non recedo; dAmrnodo → dammodo; vobiscuin → vobiscum; boc potest → hoc potest; in que,a uobis → in quo a nobis; Molta de his. → Multa de his; autcm infirma → autem infirma.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 69.4 (PL 35:1817; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/67-1/#p-69-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 70
70.1PL 35:1817
Verba sancti Evangelii, fratres, ita recte intel liguntur, si cum superioribus reperiantur habere con cordiam: convenire enim debent praecedentia conse quentibus, quando veritas loquitur. Superius dixerat Dominus, « Et si abiero, et praeparavero vobis locum; iterum venio, et accipiam vos ad meipsum, ut ubi ego sum, et vos sitis: » deinde addiderat, « Et quo ego vado scitis, et viam scitis; » nihilque aliud ostendit esse quod dixit, nisi quia ipsum sciebant. Quid ergo esset ire ad seipsum per seipsum, quod etiam discipulis præ Stat ut eant ad ipsum per ipsum, ut potuimus pristino sermone jam diximus. Quod itaque ait, Ut ubi ego sum, et vos sitis, ubi erant futuri nisi in ipso? Ac per hoc est etiam ipse in seipso, et ideo ibi illi ubi et ipse, id est, in ipso. Ipse est igitur vita æterna in qua futuri sumus, cum acceperit nos ad se: et ipsa vita aeterna quod ipse est in ipso est, ut ubi est ipse, et nos simus, hoc est, in ipso. Sicut enim habet Pater vitam in semetipso, et utique non aliud est vita quam habet, nisi quod est ipse qui hanc habet: sic dedit Filio habere vitam in semetipso, cum ipse sit eadem vita quam habet in semetipso. Numquid autem nos vita quod est ipse, hoc erimus, cum in illa vita, hoc est in ipso esse cœperimus? Non utique, quia ipse existendo vita habet vitam, et ipse est quod habet, et quod vita est in ipsa, ipse est in seipso: nos autem non ipsa vita, sed ipsius vitae participes sumus, atque ita ibi erimus, ut in nobis ipsis non quod ipse est esse possimus, sed nos ipsi non vita, ipsum habea mus vitam, qui seipsum habet vitam, eo quod ipse sit vita. Denique ipse et in seipso est immutabiliter, et in Patre inseparabiliter: nos vero cum in nobis ipsis esse voluissemus, ad nos ipsos turbati sumus; unde illa vox est, Ad meipsum turbata est anima mea: atque in deterius commutati, neque id quod fuimus, manere potuimus. Cum autem per ipsum ve nimus ad Patrem, sicut ait, Nemo venit ad Patrem, nisi per me; manentes in illo, nec a Patre nos quis quam poterit separare, nec ab illo.
The words of the holy Gospel, brothers, are rightly understood if they are found to agree with what went before; for what precedes must fit what follows when the Truth speaks. Above, the Lord had said, "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and take you to myself, so that where I am you also may be"; then he had added, "And where I am going you know, and the way you know"; and he showed that what he said meant nothing other than that they knew him. What it is for him to go to himself through himself, which he also grants the disciples, that they go to him through him, we have already said in the previous sermon as best we could. So when he says, "So that where I am you also may be," where were they to be but in him? And so he is also in himself, and therefore they are where he also is, that is, in him. He himself, then, is the eternal life in which we shall be when he has taken us to himself; and that eternal life which he is, is in him, so that where he is we also may be, that is, in him. For "as the Father has life in himself" (and certainly the life he has is nothing other than what he himself is who has it), "so he has given the Son to have life in himself," since the Son himself is the same life that he has in himself. But shall we be the life that he is, when we have begun to be in that life, that is, in him? Certainly not; for he, by existing as life, has life, and he himself is what he has, and the life that is in him he himself is in himself. But we are not that life itself but sharers in that life; and so we shall be there in such a way that in ourselves we cannot be what he is, but we, who are not life, shall have as our life him who has himself as life, because he himself is life. Finally, he is both in himself unchangeably and in the Father inseparably; but we, when we wished to be in ourselves, were troubled toward ourselves (hence that voice: "My soul is troubled toward myself") and, changed for the worse, could not remain what we had been. But when through him we come to the Father, as he says, "No one comes to the Father except through me," then, abiding in him, no one will be able to separate us either from the Father or from him.
John 14:3 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:4 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 42:6 (41:7 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:39 (echo, low confidence)
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Summary: Christ is the eternal life in which we shall be; he is life in himself, while we only share in that life by abiding in him.
- John 14:3–4, John 5:26, Ps 42:6 (LXX 41:7), and John 14:6 are quoted; Rom 8:35–39 is echoed. The teaching on the Son's life in himself is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (quotation mark)): rcperidntur → reperiantur; qnando vertas → quando veritas; Dominus, i Et si → Dominus, « Et si; addiderat, r Et qno ego → addiderat, « Et quo ego; scitis; r nihilque → scitis; » nihilque; cssetire → esset ire; ium, et vos → sum, et vos; in scipso, et ideo ibi illi ubi ct ipse → in seipso, et ideo ibi illi ubi et ipse; ip*a fita → ipsa vita; iH ipso → in ipso; aliad → aliud; kabet, nisi quod est ipse qni → habet, nisi quod est ipse qui; Filio kabere → Filio habere; eum ipse sit eadem vita quom → cum ipse sit eadem vita quam; iila vita → illa vita; ei ipse est quod → et ipse est quod; atqoe → atque; qui scipsum habet → qui seipsum habet; dcterius → deterius; fmmus → fuimus; Pahrem → Patrem.
Topics: Christology, Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 70.1 (PL 35:1817; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/67-1/#p-70-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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70.2PL 35:1817–1819
Connectens itaque consequentia præcedentibus Si cognovistis me, inquit, et Patrem meum utique co gnovistis. Hoc est quod ait: Nemo venit ad Patrem, nisi per me. Deinde subjungit: Et amodo cognoscetis eum, et vidistis eum. Sed Philippus unus ex Aposto lis, quid audierit non intelligens: Domine, inquit, ostende nobis Patrem, et sufficit nobis. Cui Dominus: Tanto, inquit, tempore vobiscum sum, et non cognovi stis me, Philippe? Qui videt me, videt et Patrem. Ecce increpat quod tanto tempore cum ipsis erat, et non co ' gnoscebatur. Nonne ipse dixerat, Et quo ego vado scitis, et viam scitis; et se nescire dicentes, eos hæc scire convi cerat, addendo atque dicendo, Ego sum via, veritas et vita? Quomodo nunc dicit, Tanto tempore vobiscum sum, et non cognovistis me? cum profecto, et quo iret, et viam scirent, non ob aliud nisi quod ipsum utique scirent? Sed facile ista solvitur quæstio, si dicamus quod eum aliqui eorum sciebant, aliqui nesciebant, atque in his qui nesciebant et Philippus erat: ut quod ait, Et quo ego vado scitis, et viam scitis, illis dixisse intelligatur qui sciebant; non Philippo cui dictum est, Tanto tempore vobiscum sum, et non cognovistis me, Philippe? His ergo qui Filium jam noverant, etiam illud de Pa tre dictum est, Et amodo cognoscetis eum, et vidistis eum: dictum est enim propter omnimodam similitu dinem quæ illi cum Patre est, ut ideo amodo diceren tur nosse Patrem, quia noverant similem Filium. Ergo jam sciebant Filium, etsi non omnes, certe qui dam eorum quibus dicitur, Et quo vado scitis, et viam scitis: ipse est enim via. Sed Patrem nesciebant, ideo audiunt, Si cognovistis me, et Patrem meum cognovi stis: per me utique et illum. Alius enim ego sum, alius ille. Sed ne putarent dissimilem, Et amodo, in quit, cognoscetis eum, et vidistis eum. Viderunt enim ejus simillimum Filium, sed admonendi fuerant ta lem esse etiam Patrem quem nondum videbant, qua lis est Filius quem videbant. Et ad hoc valet quod postea Philippo dicitur, Qui videt me, videt et Patrem. Non quod ipse esset Pater et Filius, quod in Sabellia nis, qui vocantur etiam Patripassiani, catholica fides damnat: sed quod tam similes sint Pater et Filius, ut qui unum noverit, ambos noverit. Solemus enim de simillimis duobus ita loqui eis qui unum illorum vident, et qualis est alius volunt nosse, ut dicamus: Vidistis istum, illum vidistis. Sic ergo dictum est, Qui me videt, videt et Patrem: non utique ut ipse sit Pa ter qui Filius, sed quod a Patris similitudine in nullo prorsus discrepet Filius. Nam nisi duo essent Pater et Filius, non dictum esset, Si cognovistis me, et Patrem meum cognovistis. Utique enim, quia nemo, inquit, ne nit ad Patrem, nisi per me; si cognovistis me, et Patrem meum cognovistis: quoniam ego per quem venitur ad Patrem, perducam vos ad eum, ut ipsum etiam cognoscatis. Sed quoniam illi sum omnino simillimus, amodo cognoscetis eum, cum cognoscitis me: et vidi stis eum, si oculis cordis vidistis me.
So, connecting what follows with what went before, "If you have known me," he says, "you have surely known my Father also." This is what he said: "No one comes to the Father except through me." Then he adds: "And from now on you will know him, and you have seen him." But Philip, one of the apostles, not understanding what he heard, says: "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." The Lord says to him: "Have I been with you so long a time, and you have not known me, Philip? Whoever sees me sees the Father also." See, he rebukes him because he had been with them so long a time and was not known. Had he not said, "And where I am going you know, and the way you know"? And when they said they did not know, had he not shown that they did know these things by adding and saying, "I am the way, the truth, and the life"? How does he now say, "Have I been with you so long a time, and you have not known me?", when surely they knew both where he was going and the way, for no other reason than that they knew him? But this question is easily resolved if we say that some of them knew him and some did not, and among those who did not know was Philip; so that his words, "And where I am going you know, and the way you know," are understood to have been said to those who knew, not to Philip, to whom it was said, "Have I been with you so long a time, and you have not known me, Philip?" To those, then, who already knew the Son, this too was said of the Father: "And from now on you will know him, and you have seen him." For it was said because of the complete likeness he has with the Father, so that they were said from now on to know the Father because they knew the Son, who is like him. So they already knew the Son, if not all, certainly some of those to whom it is said, "And where I am going you know, and the way you know"; for he is the way. But they did not know the Father; therefore they hear, "If you have known me, you have known my Father also": through me, that is, him too. For I am one, he is another. But lest they think him unlike, "And from now on," he says, "you will know him, and you have seen him." For they saw his Son, who is most like him; but they had to be reminded that the Father, whom they did not yet see, is such as the Son is, whom they saw. And to this end is what is said afterward to Philip: "Whoever sees me sees the Father also." Not that he himself was both Father and Son, which the catholic faith condemns in the Sabellians, who are also called Patripassians; but that the Father and the Son are so alike that whoever has known one has known both. For we are accustomed to speak in this way of two people who are very alike, to those who see one of them and want to know what the other is like, saying: "You have seen this one, you have seen that one." So it was said in this way: "Whoever sees me sees the Father also": certainly not so that the Son is himself the Father, but because the Son differs in nothing at all from the Father's likeness. For unless the Father and the Son were two, it would not have been said, "If you have known me, you have known my Father also." That is: since "no one comes to the Father except through me, if you have known me, you have known my Father also"; for I, through whom one comes to the Father, will lead you to him, so that you may know him too. But since I am entirely like him, from now on you will know him when you know me; and you have seen him, if you have seen me with the eyes of the heart.
John 14:4 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:6 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:7 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:8 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:9 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Some disciples knew the Son and so, through his perfect likeness, knew the Father; Philip did not. Father and Son are two, yet so alike that to know one is to know both.
- John 14:4, 6–9 is quoted. Augustine names the Sabellians or Patripassians, who identified Father and Son; translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (joined words)): me it inquit → me, inquit; alt: → ait:; cognoscetis eam → cognoscetis eum; ostende nobi, Patrem → ostende nobis Patrem; hæcscire → hæc scire; atquedicendo → atque dicendo; vitu? → vita?; viam.cilia → viam scitis; oui dictum → cui dictum; ctiam illud → etiam illud; Patrc est → Patre est; Pateret Filius → Pater et Filius; cognoscaLis → cognoscatis.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 70.2 (PL 35:1817–1819; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/67-1/#p-70-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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70.3PL 35:1819
Quid ergo est quod dicis, Philippe, Ostende no bis Patrem, et sufficit nobis? Tanto, inquit, tempore vobiscum sum, et non cognovistis me, Philippe? Qui vi. det me, videt et Patrem. Quod si ad te multum est hoc videre, saltem quod non vides hoc crede. Quo modo enim dicis, inquit, Ostende nobis Patrem? Si me vidisti qui omnimodo similis sum, vidisti illum cui similis sum. Quod si videre non potes, non saltem credis quia ego in Patre, et Pater in me est? Poterat hic dicere Philippus: Video quidem te, et credo similli mum esse Patri; sed numquid arguendus et objurgan dus est qui cum similem videt, etiam illum cui similis est vult videre? Similem quidem novi, sed adhuc al terum sine altero novi; non mihi sufficit, nisi et illum, cujus est iste similis noverim. Ostende itaque nobis Patrem, et sufficit nobis. Sed ideo magister discipulum arguebat, quoniam cor postulantis videbat. Tanquam enim melior esset Pater quam Filius, ita Philippus Patrem nosse cupiebat: et ideo nec Filium sciebat, quo melius esse aliquid credebat. Ad hunc sensum corrigendum dictum est, Qui videt me, videt et Patrem. Quomodo tu dicis, Ostende nobis Patrem? Video quo. modo tu dicas: non alterum quæris videre similem, sed illum putas esse meliorem. Non credis quia ego in Patre, et Pater in me est? Cur in similibus distantiam cupis cernere? cur inseparabiles separatim desideras nosse? Deinde non ad solum Philippum, sed ad eos pluraliter loquitur, quae non sunt in angustias coar ctanda, ut adjuvante ipso diligentius exponantur.
"Why then do you say, Philip, Show us the Father, and it is enough for us? Have I been with you so long a time, and you have not known me, Philip? Whoever sees me sees the Father also." If seeing this is too much for you, at least believe what you do not see. "For how can you say," he says, "Show us the Father?" If you have seen me, who am like him in every way, you have seen him whom I am like. And if you cannot see this, do you not at least believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? Philip could have said here: I do see you, and I believe you are most like the Father; but is one to be reproved and rebuked who, seeing the one who is like, wants to see also him whom he is like? I know the one who is like, but so far I know the one without the other; it is not enough for me unless I also know him whom this one is like. So "show us the Father, and it is enough for us." But the master reproved the disciple because he saw the heart of the one asking. For Philip wanted to know the Father as though the Father were better than the Son; and therefore he did not know the Son either, since he believed something to be better than him. To correct this notion it was said: "Whoever sees me sees the Father also. How can you say, Show us the Father?" I see how you say it: you do not seek to see another who is like, but you think he is better. "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in me?" Why do you wish to discern a distance between those who are alike? Why do you want to know separately those who are inseparable? Then he speaks not to Philip alone but to them in the plural, words that must not be squeezed into a narrow space, so that, with his help, they may be expounded more carefully.
John 14:8 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:9 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:10 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Philip was rebuked because he sought the Father as if he were better than the Son, not knowing that they are inseparable and alike.
- John 14:8–10 is quoted.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): cst boc videre → est hoc videre; eat? Potcrat hie → est? Poterat hic; eliam illum → etiam illum; sed adbuc → sed adhuc; Tanquam cnim → Tanquam enim; scicbat, quo → sciebat, quo; eqo in Patre → ego in Patre; Dcinde → Deinde.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 70.3 (PL 35:1819; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/67-1/#p-70-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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