On the Trinity 5.6–5.15
Latin text: Migne, PL 42 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 3 (1887).
Chapter 5
5.6PL 42:913–915
Si autem huic sic putant resistendum esse sermoni, quod Pater quidem ad Filium dicitur et Filius ad Patrem, ingenitus ta men. et genitus ad se ipsos dicuntur, non ad alter utrum: non enim hoc est dicere ingenitum, quod cst Patrem dicere; quia et si Filium non genuisset, nihil prohiberet eum dicere ingenitum: et si gignat quis que tilium, non ex eo ipse ingenitus est, quia geniti homines ex aliis hominibus, gignunt ct ipsi alios: in quiunt ergo: Pater ad Filium dicitur, et Filius ad Patrem, ingenitus autem ad se ipsum, et genitus ad se ipsum dicitur: el ideo si quidquid ad se ipsum di citur, secundum.substantiam dicitur, diversum est autem ingenitum esse et genitum esse; diversa igi tur substantia cst: hoc si dicunt, nou intelligunt de ingeuito quidem aliquid se dicere, quod diligentius pertractandum sit, quia nec ideo quisque pater quiingenitus, nec ingenitus idco quia pater, et propteres non ad aliquid, sed ad se dici putatur ingenitus: ge nitum vcro mira caecitate nun advertunt dici non possc, nisi ad aliquid. Idco quippe filius quia genitus. et quia filius utique genitus. Sicut autem filius ad patrem, sic genitus ad genitorem refertur; et sicut pater ad filium, ita genitor ad genitum. Ideoque alia notio cst qua intelligitur genitor, alia qua ingenitus. Nam quamvis de Patre Dco utrumque dicatur, illud tamen ad genitum, id est, ad Filium dicitur; quod nec illi ccgant: hoc autem quod ingenitus dicitur, ad se ipsum dici perhibent. Dicunt ergo: Si aliquid ad sc ipsum dicilur Pater, quod ad se ipsum dici non potest Filius, et quidqnid ad se ipsum dicitur. sccun dum substantiam dicitur, et ad se ipsum dicitur in genitus, quod dici non potest Filius; ergo secundum substantiam dicitur ingenitus, quod Filius quia dici non potest, non ejusdem est substantiæ. Cui versu tiæ respondetur ita, ut ipsi cogantur dicere seeun dum quid sit æqualis Patri Filius; utrum secundum id quod ad se dicitur, an secundum id quod ad Pa trem dicitur. Non enim secundum id quod ad Patrem dicitur, quoniam ad patrem filius dicitur, ille autem non filius, sed pater est. Quia non sic ad se dicuntur pnter et filius, quomodo amici aut vicini. Relative quippe amicus dicitur ad amicum; et si æqualiter se diligunt, eadem in utroque amicitia est: et relative vicinus dicitur ad vicinum; et quia æqualiter sibi sicini sunt (quantum enim iste illi, tantum et ille huic vicinatur ), cadcm in utroque vicinitas. Quia vero Filius non ad Filium relative dicitur, sed ad Patrem; non secundum hoc quod ad Patrem dicitur, æqualis est Filius Patri: restat ut secundum id aequa lis sit, quod ad sc dicitur. Quidquid autem ad se di citur, secundum substantiam dicitur: restat ergo ut secundum substantiam sit æqualis. Eadem est igitur utriusque substantia. Cum vcro ingenitus dicitur Pa ter, non quid sit, sed quid non sit dicitur. Cum au tem rclativum ncgalur, non secundum substantiam ncgatur, quia ip uni rclalivum non secundum sub stautiam dicitur.
But suppose they think this argument should be resisted in this way: that the Father is indeed so called in relation to the Son, and the Son in relation to the Father, but “unbegotten” and “begotten” are said with reference to themselves, not in relation to each other. For to call him unbegotten is not the same as to call him Father, since even if he had not begotten the Son nothing would prevent his being called unbegotten; and if anyone begets a son, he is not therefore himself unbegotten, since men, begotten from other men, themselves beget others. So, they say, Father is said in relation to the Son and Son in relation to the Father, but unbegotten is said with reference to himself, and begotten with reference to himself; and therefore, if whatever is said with reference to oneself is said according to substance, and to be unbegotten and to be begotten are different, the substance is different. If they say this, they do not understand that they are indeed saying something about “unbegotten” that needs to be examined more carefully, because no one is a father because he is unbegotten, nor unbegotten because he is a father, and so “unbegotten” is thought to be said with reference to oneself, not with relation to something; but with strange blindness they do not notice that “begotten” cannot be said except with relation to something. For a son is a son because he is begotten, and because he is a son he is certainly begotten. And just as son is referred to father, so begotten is referred to begetter; and as father to son, so begetter to begotten. And therefore the notion by which a begetter is understood is one thing, and that by which an unbegotten is understood is another. For although both are said of God the Father, the former is said in relation to the begotten, that is, to the Son, which they do not deny; but they maintain that what is called “unbegotten” is said with reference to himself. They say, therefore: “If something is said of the Father with reference to himself which cannot be said of the Son with reference to himself, and whatever is said with reference to oneself is said according to substance, and ‘unbegotten’ is said with reference to himself, which cannot be said of the Son, then ‘unbegotten’ is said according to substance; and since the Son cannot be called this, he is not of the same substance.” This cunning is answered by compelling them to say according to what the Son is equal to the Father: whether according to what is said with reference to himself, or according to what is said in relation to the Father. Not according to what is said in relation to the Father, since son is said in relation to father, and the Father is not son but father. For father and son are not said of each other in the way that friends or neighbours are. A friend is called so relatively to a friend, and if they love each other equally, the friendship is the same in both; and a neighbour is called so relatively to a neighbour, and because they are equally neighbours to each other (for as much as this one is neighbour to that one, so much is that one to this), the neighbourliness is the same in both. But since the Son is said relatively not to a Son but to the Father, the Son is not equal to the Father according to what is said in relation to the Father; it remains that he is equal according to what is said with reference to himself. But whatever is said with reference to oneself is said according to substance; it remains, therefore, that he is equal according to substance. Therefore the substance of both is the same. But when the Father is called unbegotten, what is said is not what he is but what he is not. And when a relation is denied, it is not denied according to substance, because the relation itself is not affirmed according to substance.
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Summary: Augustine answers the objection that “unbegotten” is said absolutely: the Son is equal to the Father only by what is said of him in himself, so they share one substance, and “unbegotten” only denies a relation.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 5.6 (PL 42:913–915; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-6/#p-5-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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5.7PL 42:915
Hoc exemplis planum faciendum est. Ac pri mum videndum est boc significari cum dicitur genitus, quod significatur cum dicitur filius. Ideo enim filius, quia genitus; et quia filius, utique gcnilus. Quod ergo dicilur ingenitus, hoc ostenditur, quod non sit filius: scd genitus et ingenitus commode dicunlur; filius autem latine dicitur, sed infilius ut dicatur non ad mittit loquendi consuetudo. Nihil tamen intellectui demitur, si dicatur non filius; quemadmodum ctiam si dicatur non genitus, pro eo quod dicitur ingenitus, nihilaliud dicitur. Sic cnim et vicinus et amicus re lative dicuntur, nec tamen potest invicinus dici quo modo dicitur inimicus. Quamobrem non est in rebus considerandum quid vel sinat vel non sinat dici usus sermonis nostri, sed quis rerum ipsarum intellectus cluccat. Non ergo jam dicamus ingenitum, quamvis dici latine possit; sed pro eo dicamus non genitum, quod tantum valct. Num ergo aliud dicimus quam non lilium? Negativa porro ista particula non id efficit, ut qnod sinc illa relative dicitur, cadum præposita sub stantialiter dicatur; sed id tantum negatur, quod sinc illa aiebatur, sicut in caeteris praedicamentis. Yelul cum dicimus, Homo est, substantiam designamus. Qu ergo dicit, Non homo est, non aliud genus praedica menti enuntiat, sed tantum illud negat. Sicut ergo secundum substantiam aio, Homo est: sic secundum substantiam nego, cum dico, Non homo est. Et cum quæritur, quantus sit; et aio, Quadrupedalis est, id est, quatuor pedum, secundum quantitatem ain: qui dicit, Non quadrupedalis est, sccundum quantitatem negate Candidus est, secundum qualitatem aio: Non candidus est, secundum qualitatem nego. Propinquus est, secundum relativum aio: Non propinquus est, secundum relativum nego. Secundum situm aio, cuin dico, Jacet: secundum silum nego, cum dico, Non jacet. Secundum habitum aio, cum dico, Armatus est: seeundum habitum nego, cum dico, Non armatus est. Tantumdem autem valet si dicam, Inermis est. Se cundum tempus aio, cum dico, Hesternus est: secun dum tempus nego, cum dico, Non hesternus est. Et cum dico, Romæ est, secundum locum aio: et secun dum locum nego, cum dico, Non Romæ est. Secundum id quod est facere aio, cum dico, Cædit: si autem di cam, Non cædit, secundum id quod est facere nego, ut ostendam non hoc facere. Et cum dico, Vapulat, secun. dum praedicamentum aio quod pati vocatur: et secun. dum id nego, cum dico, non vapulat. Et omnino nullum prædicamenti genus est, secundum quod aliquid aiere volumus, nisi ut secundum idipsum prædicamentum negare convincamur, si præponcre negativam parti culam voluerimus. Quæ cum ita sint, si substantiali ter aierem, dicendo, Filius; substantialiter negarem, dicendo, Non Filius. Quia vero relative aio, cum dico, Filius est; ad patrem enim refero: relative nego, si dicam, Non filius est; ad parentem cnim eamdem negationem refero, volens ostendere quod ci parens non sit. At si quantum valet quod dicitur filius, tan tumdem valet quod dicitur genitus, sicut prælocuti sumus; tantumdem ergo valet quod dicitur non genitus, quantum valet quod dicitur non filius. Re lative autem negamus dicendo, Non filius: relative igitur negamus dicendo, Non genitus. Ingenitus porro quid est, nisi non gcnitus? Non ergo receditur a re lativo prædicamento, cum ingenitus dicitur. Sicut enim genitus non ad se ipsum dicitur, sed quod ex geni tore sit: ita cum dicitur ingenitus, non ad se ipsum dicitur, sed quod ex genitore non sit ostenditur. In codem tamen pr.rdicamento, quod Relativum voca-. tur, utraquc significatio vertitur: quod autem rela tive pronuntiatur, non indicat substantiam: ita quamvis diversum sit genitus et ingenitus, non indi cat diversam substantiam: quia sicut filius ad patrem et non filius ad non patrem refertur; ita genitus ad genitorem, et non genitus ad non genitorem refera. tur necesse est.
This must be made plain by examples. And first we must see that the same thing is signified when we say “begotten” as when we say “son.” For he is a son because he is begotten, and because he is a son he is certainly begotten. What is said, therefore, by “unbegotten” shows that he is not a son. But “begotten” and “unbegotten” are said conveniently, whereas “son” is said in Latin, but the usage of speech does not allow “unson” (infilius) to be said. Yet nothing is taken from the sense if one says “not son”; just as, if one says “not begotten” instead of “unbegotten,” nothing else is said. So too “neighbour” and “friend” are said relatively, and yet one cannot say “unneighbour” as one says “unfriend” (inimicus, enemy). Therefore in these matters we must not consider what the usage of our speech allows or does not allow to be said, but what understanding of the things themselves shines out. Let us, then, no longer say “unbegotten,” although it can be said in Latin, but let us say instead “not begotten,” which means the same. Do we then say anything other than “not son”? Now this negative particle does not make what is said relatively without it to be said substantially when it is put before it; it only denies what was affirmed without it, as in the other categories. For example, when we say, “He is a man,” we designate a substance. Whoever, then, says, “He is not a man,” does not state another kind of category, but only denies that one. As, then, I affirm according to substance, “He is a man,” so I deny according to substance when I say, “He is not a man.” And when it is asked how large he is, and I affirm, “He is four-foot,” that is, of four feet, I affirm according to quantity; he who says, “He is not four-foot,” denies according to quantity. “He is white”: I affirm according to quality; “He is not white”: I deny according to quality. “He is near”: I affirm according to relation; “He is not near”: I deny according to relation. I affirm according to position when I say, “He lies down”; I deny according to position when I say, “He does not lie down.” I affirm according to condition when I say, “He is armed”; I deny according to condition when I say, “He is not armed”; and it means just as much if I say, “He is unarmed.” I affirm according to time when I say, “He is of yesterday”; I deny according to time when I say, “He is not of yesterday.” And when I say, “He is at Rome,” I affirm according to place; and I deny according to place when I say, “He is not at Rome.” I affirm according to doing when I say, “He strikes”; but if I say, “He does not strike,” I deny according to doing, to show that he is not doing this. And when I say, “He is beaten,” I affirm according to the category called being acted upon; and I deny according to it when I say, “He is not beaten.” And in general there is no kind of category according to which we wish to affirm something without being shown to deny according to that same category, if we choose to put the negative particle before it. Since this is so, if I affirmed substantially by saying “Son,” I would deny substantially by saying “not Son.” But since I affirm relatively when I say, “He is a son” (for I refer him to a father), I deny relatively if I say, “He is not a son”; for I refer the same denial to a parent, wishing to show that he has no parent. But if “son” means as much as “begotten,” as we said before, then “not begotten” means as much as “not son.” But we deny relatively by saying “not son”; therefore we deny relatively by saying “not begotten.” And what is “unbegotten” but “not begotten”? Therefore one does not depart from the category of relation when “unbegotten” is said. For just as “begotten” is not said with reference to oneself, but means that he is from a begetter, so when “unbegotten” is said, it is not said with reference to oneself, but shows that he is not from a begetter. Yet both meanings turn within the same category, which is called relation; and what is pronounced relatively does not indicate substance. So, although “begotten” and “unbegotten” are different, they do not indicate a different substance; because just as son is referred to father and not-son to not-father, so begotten must be referred to begetter, and not-begotten to not-begetter.
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Summary: Adding a negative does not change a term's category, so “unbegotten” (“not begotten,” “not son”) remains a term of relation and does not show a different substance.
- “Unfriend” renders inimicus (enemy), which in Latin is formed as “not-friend”; there is no Latin “invicinus” (“unneighbour”). The examples run through Aristotle's ten categories.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: noc for Hoc): noc exemplis planum → Hoc exemplis planum.
Extrabiblical texts: Aristotle, Cat. (Aristotle (works); allusion)
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 5.7 (PL 42:915; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-6/#p-5-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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5.8PL 42:915–917
Quapropter illud prae cipue teneamus, quidquid ad se dicitur præstantissima Ill:. et divlna sublimitas, substantialiter dici; quod autem ad aliquid, non substantialiter, sed relative: tantamque vim esse ejusdem substantiæ in Patrc et Filio et Spiritu sanctu, ut quidquid de singulis ad se ipsos dicitur, non pluraliter in summa, sed singulari ter accipiatur. Quemadmodum enim Pater Deus est, et Filius Deus est, et Spiritus sanctus Dens est, quod secundum substantiam dici neino dubitat: non tamen tres deos, sed unum Deum dicimus eam ipsam præ stantissimam Trinitatem. Ita magnus Pater, magnus Filius, magnus Spiritus sanctus: non tamen tres ma gni, sed unus magnus. Non enim de Patre solo, sicut illi perverse sentiunt; sed de Patre et Filio et Spiritu sancto scriptum est, Tu es Deus solus magnus ( Psal. LXXXV, 10). Et bonus Pater, bonus Filius, bonus Spi ritus sanctus: nec tres boni, sed unus est bonus, de quo dictum est, Nemo bonus, nisi unus Deus. Elcniin Dominus Jesus, ne ab illo qui dixerat, Magister bone ( Luc. XVIII, 49,18), tanquam hominem compellans, secundum hominem tantummodo intelligeretur, ideo non ait, Nemo bonus, nisi solus Pater; sed, Nemo bonus, nisi unus Deus. In Patris enim nomine, ipse per sc Pater pronuntiatur: in Dei vero, et ipse et Filius et Spiritus sanctus, quia Trinitas unus Deus. Situs vero, et habitus, et loca, et tempora, non proprie, sed translate ac per similitudines dicuntur in Deo. Nam et sedere super Cherubim dicitur; quod ad situm dicitur: et abyssum tanquam ve stimentum amictus; quod ad habitum: cl, Anni tui non deficient (Psal. ct, 28); quod ad lempus: et, Si ascendero in coelum, tu ibi es; quod ad locum. Quod autem ad faciendum atti net, fortassis de solo Deo verissime dicatur: solus enim Deus facit et ipse non fit, neque patitur quan tum ad ejas substantiam pertinet qua Deus est. Ita que omnipotens Pater, omnipotens Filius, omnipotens Spiritus sanctus: nec tamen tres omnipotentes, sed unus Omnipotens, ex quo omnia, per quem omnia, in quo omnia; ipsi gloria. Quidquid ergo ad sc ipsum dicitur Deus, et de singulis personis singu lariter dicitur id est, de Patre, et Filio, et Spiritu sancto, et simul de ipsa Trinitate, non pluraliter, sed si gulariter dicitur. Quoniam quippe non aliud est Deo esse, et aliud magnum esse, sed hoc idem illi est esse quod magnum esse: propterea sicut non dici mus tres essentias, sic non dicimus tres magnitudines, scd unam cssentiam et unam magnitudinem. Essen tiam dico, quæ οὐσία græce dicitur, quam usitatius substantiam vocamus. Dicunt quidem et illi hypostasim; sed nescio quid volunt interesse inter usiam et hypostasim: ita ut plerique nostri qui hæc graeco tractant eloquio,.licere consueverint, μίαν οὐσίαν, τρει̃ς ὑποστάσεις, quod rst latine, unam essentiam, tres substantias.
Therefore let us hold this above all, that whatever that most excellent and divine sublimity is said to be with reference to itself is said substantially, but what is said with relation to something is said not substantially but relatively; and that the force of the same substance in the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit is so great that whatever is said of each with reference to themselves is to be taken, in the sum, not in the plural but in the singular. For just as the Father is God, and the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, which no one doubts is said according to substance, yet we do not say that this most excellent Trinity is three gods, but one God; so the Father is great, the Son great, the Holy Spirit great, yet not three greats but one great. For it is written not of the Father alone, as they perversely think, but of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, “You alone are the great God.” And the Father is good, the Son good, the Holy Spirit good; and not three goods, but one good, of whom it was said, “No one is good but one, God.” For the Lord Jesus, lest he be understood only as a man by the one who had said “Good Master,” addressing him as a man, therefore did not say, “No one is good but the Father alone,” but, “No one is good but one, God.” For in the name of the Father the Father himself is meant by himself; but in the name of God, both he and the Son and the Holy Spirit, because the Trinity is one God. But position, condition, places, and times are said of God not properly but figuratively and by likenesses. For he is said both to “sit upon the cherubim,” which is said of position; and to be “clothed with the abyss as with a garment,” which is said of condition; and, “Your years shall not fail,” which is said of time; and, “If I ascend into heaven, you are there,” which is said of place. But as regards doing, perhaps it is said most truly of God alone: for God alone makes and is not himself made, nor is he acted upon as regards his substance by which he is God. So the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, the Holy Spirit almighty; yet not three almighties, but one Almighty, “from whom are all things, through whom are all things, in whom are all things; to him be glory.” Whatever, therefore, God is said to be with reference to himself is both said of each person singly, that is, of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and at the same time of the Trinity itself, not in the plural but in the singular. For since to God it is not one thing to be and another to be great, but to be is for him the same as to be great, therefore, just as we do not say three essences, so we do not say three greatnesses, but one essence and one greatness. I say essence, which in Greek is called ousia, and which we more usually call substance. They do indeed also speak of hypostasis; but I do not know what difference they mean to put between ousia and hypostasis, so that most of our people who treat these matters in Greek are accustomed to say mian ousian, treis hypostaseis, which in Latin is “one essence, three substances.”
Ps 86:10 (85:10 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 18:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 18:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 80:1 (79:2 LXX) (allusion, medium confidence) · Ps 104:6 (103:6 LXX) (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 102:27 (101:28 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 139:8 (138:8 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 11:36 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: What is said of God absolutely is said of each person and of the Trinity in the singular (one God, one great, one good, one Almighty); Augustine notes that the Greeks say “one ousia, three hypostases.”
- Ps 86:10 (85:10 LXX/Vulg.), which the Arians applied to the Father alone; Luke 18:18–19 (cf. Mark 10:18); Ps 80:1 (79:2 LXX) or 99:1 (98:1 LXX); Ps 104:6 (103:6 LXX); Ps 102:27 (101:28 LXX); Ps 139:8 (138:8 LXX); Rom 11:36. Greek hypostasis is literally the same word as Latin substantia, which is why Augustine renders the Greek formula “one essence, three substances”; he takes up the question of terms in 5.9 and Book 7.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 5.8 (PL 42:915–917; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-6/#p-5-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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5.9PL 42:917
Sed quia nostra loquendi consuetudo jam obtinuit, ut hoc intelligatur cum dicimus essentiam, quod intel ligitur cnm dicimus substantiam: noR audemus dicere unam essentiam tres substanlias; sed unam essentiam vel substantiam, tres antem personas; quemadmodum multi Latini ista tractantes et digni auctoritate dixerunt, cum alium modum aptio rem non invenirent, quo enuntiarent verbis quod sine verbis intelligebant. Revera enim cum f'ater non sit Filius, et Filius non sit Pater, et Spirilus sanctus ille qui etiam donum Dci vocatur, nec Pater sit nec Filius, tres utique sunt. Ideoque pluraliter dictum est, Ego et Pater unum sumus. Non euim dixit, Unum est, quod Sabelliani dicunt; sed, unum sumus. Tamen cum quæritur quid tres, magna prorsus inopia humanum laborat eloquium. Dicturo est tamen, Tres personæ, non ut illud diccretur, sed ne taceretur.
But because our usage of speech has already established that the same thing is understood when we say essence as when we say substance, we do not dare to say “one essence, three substances,” but “one essence or substance, but three persons,” as many Latin writers of authority who have treated these matters have said, since they found no more fitting way to express in words what they understood without words. For in fact, since the Father is not the Son, and the Son is not the Father, and the Holy Spirit, who is also called the gift of God, is neither the Father nor the Son, they are certainly three. And therefore it was said in the plural, “I and the Father are one.” For he did not say, “is one,” as the Sabellians say, but “are one.” Yet when it is asked, “Three what?” human speech labours under a great poverty indeed. Still, “three persons” has been said, not in order that that might be said, but in order not to be silent.
John 10:30 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 8:20 (allusion, low confidence)
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Summary: Latin usage says “one essence or substance, three persons,” not “three substances”; “persons” is said not to express the mystery but so as not to be silent.
- John 10:30. “The gift of God”: cf. Acts 8:20; John 4:10. The Sabellians taught that Father, Son, and Spirit are one person under different names. Augustine is explaining why Latin says persona where Greek says hypostasis; the translation keeps his terms.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 5.9 (PL 42:917; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-6/#p-5-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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5.10PL 42:917
Sicut ergo non dicimus tres essentias; ita non dicimus tres magnitudines, neque tres magnos. In rebus enim quae participatione magnitudinis magnæ sunt, quibus est aliud esse, aliud magnas esse, sicut magna domus, et magnus mons, et magnus animus; in his ergo rebus aliud est magnitudo, aliud quod ab ea magnitudine magnum est, et prorsus non hoc eso magnitudo quod est magna domus. Sed illa est vera magnitudo, qua non solum magna est domus quæ magna est, et qua magnus est mons quisquis magnus est; sed etiam qua magnum est quidquid aliud ana. gnum dicitur: ut aliud sit ipsa magnitudo, aliud ea quae ab illa magna dicuntur. Quæ magnitudo utique primitus magna est, multoque excellentius quam ea-.quae quae participatione ejus magna sunt. Deus autem quia non ea magnitudine magnus est quae non est quod est ipse, ut quasi particeps ejus sit Deus cum magnus est; alioquin illa erit major magnitudo quam Deus, Deo autem non est aliquid majus: ea igitur magnitu dine magnus est qua ipse est eadem, magnitudo. Et ideo sicut non dicimus tres essentias, sic nec tres magnitudines: hoc est enim Deo esse; quod est ma gnum esse. Eadem causa nec magnos tres dicimus, sed unum magnum: quia non par icipatione magni tudinis Deus magnus est, sed se ipso magno magnus est; quia ipse sua est magnitudo. Hoc et de bonitate, et de aeternitate, et de omnipotentia Dei dictum sit, omnibusque omnino praedicamentis quæ de Deo pos. sunt pronuntiari, quod ad se ipsum dicitur, non translate ac per similitudinem, sed proprie: si tamen de illo proprie aliquid diei ore hominis potest.
As, then, we do not say three essences, so we do not say three greatnesses, nor three great ones. For in things that are great by participation in greatness, for which it is one thing to be and another to be great, as a great house, a great mountain, a great mind, in these things greatness is one thing, and that which is great by that greatness is another; and a great house is certainly not the same as greatness. But that is true greatness by which not only a house that is great is great, and by which any mountain that is great is great, but also by which whatever else is called great is great; so that greatness itself is one thing, and the things that are called great from it are another. This greatness is certainly great in the first place, and much more excellently than the things that are great by participating in it. But God is not great by a greatness that is not what he himself is, as though God were a participant in it when he is great; otherwise that greatness would be greater than God, whereas there is nothing greater than God. Therefore he is great by that greatness which he himself is. And so, as we do not say three essences, neither do we say three greatnesses: for to God, to be is the same as to be great. For the same reason we do not say three great ones but one great one; because God is not great by participation in greatness, but is great by himself being great, since he is his own greatness. Let the same be said of the goodness, the eternity, and the omnipotence of God, and of all the predicates whatever that can be pronounced of God, which are said of him with reference to himself, not figuratively and by likeness but properly, if indeed anything can be said properly of him by the mouth of man.
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Summary: God is not great by sharing in greatness but is his own greatness, so we speak of one greatness and one great one, and likewise for goodness, eternity, and omnipotence.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 5.10 (PL 42:917; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-6/#p-5-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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5.11PL 42:917–919
Quod 1 autem proprie singula in eadem Trinitate dicuntur, nullo modo ad se ipsa, sed ad iuvircm, aut ad creaturam dicuntur; et ideo relative, non sub stantialiter ea dici manifestum est. Sicut enim Trij nitas unus Deus dicitur, magnus, bonus, æternus, omnipotens, idemque ipse sua sic dici potest deitas, ipse sua magnitudo, ipse sua bonitas, ipse sua æter nitas. ipse sua omnipotentia: non sic potest dici Trinitas Pater, nis: forte translate ad creaturam propter adoptionem filiorum. Quod enim scriptum est, Audi, Israel: Dominus Deus tuus, Dominus unus est ( Deut. VI, 4), non utique excepto Filio, aut excepto Spirilu lancto oportet intelligi, quem unum Dominum Deum nostrum recle dicimus etiam patrem nostrum per gra liam suam nos rcgencrantem. Trinitas autem Filius nullo modo dici potest. Spiritus vero sanctus secun dum id quod scriptum est, Quoniam Deus spiritus esi, potest quidem universaliter dici, quia ct Pater spiritus et Filius spiritus, et Pater sanctus et Filius sanctus. Itaque Pater, et Filius, et Spiritus sanctus, quoniam unus Deus, et utique Deus sanctus est, et Deus spiritus est, potest appellari Trinitas et Spiritus sanctus. Sed tamen ille Spiritus sanctus qui non Trinitas, sed in Trinitate intelligitur, in eo quod proprie dicitur Spiritus sanctus, relative dicitur, cum ei ad Patrem et ad Filium refertur, quia Spiritus san ctus ei Patris et Filii Spiritus est. Sed ipsa relatio non apparet in hoc nomine; apparet autem cum dicitur donum Dei: donum enim est Patris et Filii, quia et a Patre procedit ( Joan. xv, x6 ), sicut Dominus dicit; et quod Apostolus ait, Qui Spiritum Christi non habet, hic non est ejus. de ipso utique sancto Spiritu ait. Donum ergo donatoris, et donator doni, cum dicimus, relative utrumque ad invicem dicimus. Ergo Spiritus sanctus ineffabilis est quædam Patris Filiique communio; et ideo fortasse sic appellatur, quia Patri et Filio potest eadem appellatio convenire. Nam hoc ipse proprie dicilur, quod illi comntuniler: quia et Pater spiritus et Filius spiritus, et Pater sanctus et Filtus sanctus. Ut ergo ex nomine quod utrique convenit, utriusque communio significe tur, vocatur donnm amborum Spiritus sanctus. Et haec Trinitas unus Deus, soluS, bonus, magnus, * æternus, omnipotens: ipse sibi unitas, deitas, ma gnitudo, bonitas, æternitas, omnipotentia.
But what is said properly of each one in the same Trinity is in no way said with reference to themselves, but in relation to each other or to the creature; and therefore it is clear that these things are said relatively, not substantially. For just as the Trinity is called one God, great, good, eternal, almighty, and the same God can be called his own deity, his own greatness, his own goodness, his own eternity, his own omnipotence, the Trinity cannot be called Father in the same way, except perhaps figuratively in relation to the creature, because of the adoption of sons. For what is written, “Hear, O Israel: the Lord your God is one Lord,” must certainly not be understood as excluding the Son or excluding the Holy Spirit; and we rightly call this one Lord our God also our Father, who regenerates us by his grace. But the Trinity can in no way be called Son. But “Holy Spirit,” according to what is written, “For God is spirit,” can indeed be said of the whole, because the Father is spirit and the Son is spirit, and the Father is holy and the Son is holy. Therefore the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, since they are one God, and God is certainly holy and God is spirit, the Trinity can also be called the Holy Spirit. But that Holy Spirit who is understood not as the Trinity but as in the Trinity is spoken of relatively in what he is properly called, the Holy Spirit, since he is referred to the Father and to the Son, because the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and of the Son. But the relation itself does not appear in this name; it does appear, however, when he is called the gift of God. For he is the gift of the Father and of the Son, because he both “proceeds from the Father,” as the Lord says, and what the apostle says, “Whoever does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him,” he certainly says of the Holy Spirit himself. When, therefore, we say “the gift of the giver” and “the giver of the gift,” we speak of both relatively to each other. So the Holy Spirit is a certain unspeakable communion of the Father and the Son; and perhaps he is so called because the same name can fit the Father and the Son. For he is called properly what they are called in common, since the Father is spirit and the Son is spirit, and the Father is holy and the Son is holy. So that, therefore, the communion of both may be signified by a name that fits both, the gift of both is called the Holy Spirit. And this Trinity is one God, alone, good, great, eternal, almighty: itself its own unity, deity, greatness, goodness, eternity, omnipotence.
Deut 6:4 (quotation, high confidence) · John 4:24 (quotation, high confidence) · John 15:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:9 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Names proper to each person are relative; the Holy Spirit is so called relatively as the gift of the Father and the Son, a kind of unspeakable communion of both.
- Deut 6:4; John 4:24; John 15:26; Rom 8:9. Augustine's teaching that the Spirit is the gift and communion of the Father and the Son is given as he states it; his own “perhaps” (fortasse) marks it as tentative.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 5.11 (PL 42:917–919; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-6/#p-5-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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5.12PL 42:919
Nec movere debet, quoniam diximus relative dici Spiritum sanctum, non ipsam Trinitatem, sed enm qui est in Trinitate, qnia Mon ei videtur vicissim respondere vocabulum ejus ad quem refer tur. Non enim, sicut dicimus servum domini et do minum servi, filium patris et patrem filii, quoniam ista relative dicuntur, ila etiam hic possumus dicere. Diciinus enim Spirilum sanctum Patris, sed non vi cissim dicimus Patrem Spiritus sancti, ne filius ejus intelligatur Spiritus sanctus. Item dicimus Spiritum sanctum Filii, sed non dicimus Filium Spiritus sancti, ne pater ejus intelligatur Spiritus sanctus. In mutis enim relativis hoc contingit, ut non inveniatur voca bulum, quo sibi vicissim respondeant quæ ad se re feruntur. Quid enim tam manifeste relative dicitur quam pignus? Ad id quippe refertur cujus est pignus, et semper pignus alicujus rei pignus est. Num ergo cum dicimus pignus Patris et Filii, possumus vicissim dicere Patrem pi gnoris aut Filium piguoris? At vero cum dicimus denum Patris et Filii, non quidemdicere possumus Patrem doni, aut Filium doni; sed ut haec sibi vicis sim respondcant, dicimus donum donatoris, et do natorem doni: quia hic potuit inveniri usitatum voca bulum, illic non potuit.
Nor should it trouble anyone that we have said that the Holy Spirit (not the Trinity itself, but the one who is in the Trinity) is spoken of relatively, because there seems to be no corresponding term for the one to whom he is referred. For we cannot speak here as we say “the servant of the master” and “the master of the servant,” “the son of the father” and “the father of the son,” since these are said relatively. For we say “the Holy Spirit of the Father,” but we do not say in turn “the Father of the Holy Spirit,” lest the Holy Spirit be understood to be his son. Likewise we say “the Holy Spirit of the Son,” but we do not say “the Son of the Holy Spirit,” lest the Holy Spirit be understood to be his father. For in many relative terms it happens that no word is found by which the things referred to each other may correspond. For what is said so plainly relatively as “pledge”? It is referred to that of which it is the pledge, and a pledge is always a pledge of something. When, then, we say “the pledge of the Father and the Son,” can we say in turn “the Father of the pledge” or “the Son of the pledge”? But when we say “the gift of the Father and the Son,” we cannot indeed say “the Father of the gift” or “the Son of the gift”; but so that these may correspond to each other, we say “the gift of the giver” and “the giver of the gift,” because here a word in common use could be found, while there it could not.
2 Cor 1:22 (allusion, low confidence)
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Summary: That there is no matching term (“Father of the Spirit”) does not stop the Spirit's name being relative; the correspondence is “gift of the giver” and “giver of the gift.”
- “Pledge” (pignus) recalls the Spirit as the pledge or guarantee of 2 Cor 1:22; 5:5; Eph 1:14.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 5.12 (PL 42:919; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-6/#p-5-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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5.13PL 42:919
DieiLur ergo relative Pater, idemque rimative dicitur principium, et si quid forte aliud: sed Pater ad Filium dicitur, principium vero ad omnia quae ab ipso sunt. Item dicitur relative Fi lius, relative dicitur et Verbum et Imago; et in omni bus his vocabulis ad Patrem refertur: nihil autcm horum Pater dicitur. Et principium dicitur Filius: cum enim diceretur ei, Tu quis es? respondit, Prin cipium, qui et loquor vobis. Sed nuin quid Patris principium? Creatorem se quippe osten dere voluit, cum se dixit esse principium; sicut et Pater principium est creaturæ, eo quod ab ipso sunt omnia. Nam et creator relative dicitur ad creaturam, sicut dominus ad servum. Et ideo cum dicimus, et Patrem principium, et Filium principium, non duo principia creaturæ dicimus; quia et Pater et Filius simul ad creaturam unum principium est, sicut unus creator, sicut unus Deus. Si autem quidquid in se manet et gignit aliquid vel operatur, principium est ei rei qnam gignit, vcl ei quam operatur; nun possu mus negare etiam Spiritum sanctum recte dici prin cipium; quia non eum separamus ab appellatione creatoris: et scriptum est de illo quod operetur, et in se utique manens operatur; non enim in aliquid eorum quæ operatur, ipse mutatur et vertitur. Et quæ operamur, vide: Unicuique autem, inquit, datur mani festatio Spiritus ad utilitatem. Alii quidem datur per Spiritum sermo sapientiæ; alii sermo scientiæ secundum eumdem Spiritum; alteri autem fides in eodem Spiritu; alii donatio curationum in uno Spiritu; alii operatio virtutum; alii prophetia; alii dijudicatio spirituum; alii genera linguarum. Omnia atem hæc operatur unus atque idem Spiritus, dividens propria unicuique prout vult, utique sicut Deus. Quis enim tanta illa potest operari nisi Deus? dem autem Deus qui operatur omnia in omnibus ( I Cor. XII, 6-11 ). Nam et sigilla tim si interrogemur de Spiritu sancto, verissime re spondemus quod Deus sit; et cum Patre et Filio simul unus Deus est. Unum ergo principium ad creaturam dicitur Deus. non duo vel tria principia.
The Father, then, is spoken of relatively, and the same is spoken of relatively as “beginning,” and perhaps in other ways; but he is called Father in relation to the Son, and beginning in relation to all things that are from him. Likewise the Son is spoken of relatively; he is also called relatively the Word and the Image, and in all these names he is referred to the Father; but the Father is called none of these. The Son too is called the beginning: for when he was asked, “Who are you?” he answered, “The beginning, who also speak to you.” But is he the beginning of the Father? He wished to show himself as Creator when he said that he was the beginning, just as the Father is the beginning of the creature, in that all things are from him. For “creator” too is said relatively to the creature, as master to servant. And therefore when we say both that the Father is the beginning and that the Son is the beginning, we do not speak of two beginnings of the creature; because the Father and the Son together are one beginning in relation to the creature, as one Creator, as one God. But if whatever remains in itself and begets or works something is the beginning of the thing it begets or works, we cannot deny that the Holy Spirit too is rightly called the beginning, because we do not separate him from the name of Creator. And it is written of him that he works, and he certainly works while remaining in himself; for he is not himself changed and turned into any of the things he works. And see what he works: “To each,” he says, “is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. To one is given through the Spirit the word of wisdom, to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit, to another faith in the same Spirit, to another the gift of healings in the one Spirit, to another the working of powers, to another prophecy, to another the discerning of spirits, to another kinds of tongues. But all these the one and the same Spirit works, dividing to each one his own as he wills,” that is, as God. For who can work such great things but God? “But it is the same God who works all things in all.” For if we are asked about the Holy Spirit by himself, we answer most truly that he is God; and together with the Father and the Son he is one God. God, then, is called one beginning in relation to the creature, not two or three beginnings.
John 8:25 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 12:7 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 12:8 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 12:9 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 12:10 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 12:11 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 12:6 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are each called “beginning” in relation to creation, yet together they are one beginning, as one Creator and one God.
- John 8:25, read as in the Latin Bible of Augustine's day (“the beginning, who also speak to you”). 1 Cor 12:7–11, 6.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 5.13 (PL 42:919; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-6/#p-5-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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5.14PL 42:919–921
Ad se autem invicem in Trini tate, si gignens ad id quod gignit principium est, Pater ad Filium principium est, quia gignit eum '. Utrum autem et ad Spiritum sanctum principium sit Pater, quoniam dictum est, De Patre procedit, non parva quæstio est. Quia si ita est, nun jam principium ei tantum rei erit quam gignit ant facit, sed edam ei quam dat. Ubi et illud elucescit, ut potest', quod solet multos movere, cur non Filius sit etiam Spiritus sanctus, cum et ipse a Patre exeat, sicut in Evangelio legitur. Exiit enim, non quomodo na tus, sed quomodo datus; ei ideo non dicitur filius, quia neque natus est sicut Unigenitus, ncque factus ut per Dei gratiam in adoptionem nasceretur, sicuti nos. Quod cnim de Patre naum est, ad Patrem solum re fertur cum dicitur Filius, et ideo Filius Patris, non et noster 1: quod autcm datum est, et ad eum qni dedit refertur, et ad ens quibus dedit; itaque Spiritus sanctus, non tantum Patris et Filii qui dederunt, sed etiam nosler dicitur qui accepimus: sicut dicilur, Domini salus qui dat salutem (Psal. tu, 9), eadem etiam nostra salus est qui accepimus. Spiritus ergo et Dei est qui dedit, et no ter qui accepimus. Non ille spiritus noster quo sumus, quia ipse spiritus est hominis qui in ipso est: sed alio modo iste noster est, quo dicimus et, Panem nostrum da nobis. Quanquam et illum spiritum qui bominis di citur, utique accepimus. Quid enim habes, inquit quod non accepisti? Sed aliud est quod accepimus ut essemus, aliud quod accepimus ut sancti essemus. Unde scriptum est et de Joanne, quod in spiritu et virtute Eliæ veniret: dictus cst Eliae spiritus, scilicet Spiritus sanctus quem ac cepit Elias. Hoc et de Moyse intelligendum est, cum ait ei Dominus, Tollam de spiritu tuo, et dabo eia: hoc est, dabo illis de Spiritu sancto, quem jam libi dedi Si ergo et quod datur, princi pium babet cum a quo datur, quia non aliunde accepit iliud qnod ab ipso procedit; fatendum est Patrem et Filium principium esse Spiritus sancti, non duo prin cipia: sed sicut Pater et Filius unus Deus, et ad crea turam relative unus creator et unus Dominus, sic relative ad Spiritum sanctum unum principium; ad creaturam vcro Pater et Filius et Spiriius sanctus unum principium, sicut unus creator et unus Do minus.
But in relation to each other in the Trinity, if what begets is the beginning of what it begets, the Father is the beginning of the Son, because he begets him. But whether the Father is also the beginning of the Holy Spirit, since it is said, “He proceeds from the Father,” is no small question. For if it is so, he will be the beginning not only of the thing he begets or makes, but also of what he gives. And here light is shed, as far as it can be, on what troubles many: why the Holy Spirit is not also a son, since he too goes out from the Father, as we read in the Gospel. For he went out not as one born but as one given; and therefore he is not called son, because he was neither born like the Only-begotten, nor made so as to be born into adoption by God's grace, like us. For what is born of the Father is referred to the Father alone when it is called Son, and so it is the Son of the Father and not ours as well; but what is given is referred both to him who gave and to those to whom he gave. And so the Holy Spirit is called not only the Spirit of the Father and the Son who gave him, but also ours who received him; just as the salvation of the Lord, who gives salvation, is spoken of (“salvation is the Lord's”), and the same is also our salvation, who have received it. The Spirit, then, is both God's, who gave, and ours, who have received. Not that spirit of ours by which we exist, for that is the spirit of the man that is in him; but this one is ours in another way, as we also say, “Give us our bread.” Although we have certainly received that spirit too which is called the man's: “For what do you have,” he says, “that you did not receive?” But what we received in order to exist is one thing, and what we received in order to be holy is another. Hence it is also written of John that he would come “in the spirit and power of Elijah”: it is called the spirit of Elijah, namely the Holy Spirit whom Elijah received. The same must be understood of Moses, when the Lord says to him, “I will take of your spirit and give it to them,” that is, I will give them of the Holy Spirit whom I have already given you. If, then, what is given also has as its beginning the one by whom it is given, because it did not receive from anywhere else that which proceeds from him, it must be confessed that the Father and the Son are the beginning of the Holy Spirit, not two beginnings; but as the Father and the Son are one God, and in relation to the creature one Creator and one Lord, so in relation to the Holy Spirit they are one beginning; but in relation to the creature the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one beginning, as one Creator and one Lord.
John 15:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 3:8 (3:9 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 6:11 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 4:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 1:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Num 11:17 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: The Father begets the Son; the Spirit goes forth not as born but as given, and so the Father and the Son are one beginning of the Holy Spirit.
- John 15:26; Ps 3:8 (3:9 LXX/Vulg.); Matt 6:11; 1 Cor 4:7; Luke 1:17; Num 11:17. Augustine's conclusion that the Father and the Son are one beginning (principium) of the Spirit is translated as he states it; it bears on the later debate over the Spirit's procession.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 5.14 (PL 42:919–921; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-6/#p-5-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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5.15PL 42:921
Ulterius 2 autem quæritur, utrum quemadmodum Filius non boc tantum habet nascendo ut Filius sit, sed omnino ut sit; sic et Spiri tus sanctus eo quo datur babeat non tantum ut donum sit, sed omnino ut sit: utrum ergo erat antequam da retur, sed nondum erat donum, an eo ipso quo da turus erat cum Deus, jam donum erat et antequam daretur. Sed si non procedit nisi cum datur, nec pro cedcret utique priusquam esset cui darctur; quomodo jam crat ipsa substantia, si non est nisi quia datur: sicut Filius non tantum ut sit Filius, quod relative dicitur, sed omnino ut sit ipsam substantiam 4 nascendo habet? An semper procedit Spiritus sanctus, et non ex tempore, sed ab æternitate procedit; sed quia sic procedebat ut esset donabile; jam donum erat, et an tequam esset cui daretur? Aliter enim intelligitur cum dicitur donum, aliter cum dicitur donatum. Nam donum potest esse et antequam detur; donatum autem nisi datum fuerit nullo modo dict potest.
It is further asked whether, just as the Son has by being born not only that he is Son but that he exists at all, so the Holy Spirit has by being given not only that he is a gift but that he exists at all: whether, then, he existed before he was given but was not yet a gift, or whether, by the very fact that God was going to give him, he was already a gift even before he was given. But if he does not proceed except when he is given, he would certainly not proceed before there was someone to whom he might be given; how then did he already exist as substance, if he exists only because he is given, just as the Son by being born has not only that he is Son, which is said relatively, but that he is substance at all? Or does the Holy Spirit always proceed, and proceed not from a point in time but from eternity; but because he so proceeded as to be able to be given, was he already a gift even before there was anyone to whom he might be given? For “gift” is understood in one way and “given” (donatum) in another. A gift can exist even before it is given; but it can in no way be called given unless it has been given.
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Summary: The Holy Spirit proceeds eternally as one who can be given, and so is eternally a gift, though he is “given” only in time.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 5.15 (PL 42:921; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-6/#p-5-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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