On the Trinity 5.16–6.8
Latin text: Migne, PL 42 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 3 (1887).
Chapter 5
5.16PL 42:921–923
Nec moveat quod Spiritus sancius cum sit coæternus Palri et Filio, dicitur tamen aliquid ex tempore, veluti hoe ipsum quod donatum diximus. Nani sempiterne Spi ritus doniun, temporaliter autem donatum. Nam et si dominus non dicitur, nisi cum habere incipit servum, etiam ista appellatio relativa ex tempore est Deo: non enin sempiterna creatura est, cujns est ille Do minus. Quomodo ergo obtinebimus nec ipsa relativa esse accidentia, quoniam nihil accidit Deo tempora liter, quia non est mutabilis, sicut in exordio hujus disputationis tractavimus. Ecce Dominum esse non sempiternum habet, ne cogamur etiam sempiternam crcaluram dicere, quia ille sempiterne non dominare tur, nisi etiam ista sempiterne famularetur. Sicut autem non potest esse servus qui non habct dominum, sic nee dominus qui non babet servum. Et quisquis exstilerit qui æternum quidem Deum solum dicat, tempora an tem non esse æterna propter varietatem et mutabili tatem, sed tempora tamen non in tempore esse coepisse non enim erat tempus antequam inciperent tempora, et ideo non in tempore accidit Den ut Doni nus esset, quia ipsorum temporum Domninus erat, qum utique non in tempore esse cœperunt); quid respon debit de homine, qui in tempore factus est, cujus utique Dominus non erat antequam esset cui esset? Certe vel ut Dommus hominis esset, ex tempore ac cidit Deo: ei ut Omnis auferri videatur controversia, certe ut tuus Dominus esset, aut meus, qui modo esse cœpimus, ex tempore accidit Deo. Aut si et hoc pro pter obscuram quæstionem antiae videtur incertum, quid ut esset Dominus populi Israel? Quia etsi jam erat animæ natura, quain illc populus habehat, quod modonon quærimus; lamcn ille populus nondum erat, et quando esse cœpit apparet. Postremo ut Dominiis esset hujus arboris et hujus segetis, ex tempore accidit, quæ modo esse cœperunt. Quia etsi materies ipsa jam erat, aliud est tamen domiuum esse materiæ, aliud esso dominum jam factæ naturae. Alio enim tempore est eliam homo dominus ligui, et alio tempore dominus est arcæ, quamvis ex ipso ligno fabricatx, quod utique non erat, cum ligni dominus jam esel. Quomodo igitur obtinebimus nihil secundum accidens dic! Deum, nisi quia ipsius natune nihil accidit quo niu lctur, ut ea sint accidentia relativa, quæ cum aliqua mutatione rerum de quihus dicuntur, accidunt. Sicut amicus relative dicitur; ncque enim esse incipit, nisi cum amare cœperit: fit ergo aliqua mutatio vo luntatis, ut amicus dicaLur. Nummus autem cum di-. citur pretium, relative dicitur, nec lamcn mutatus est cum esse cœpit pretium: neque cum dicitur pi gnus, et si qua sunt similia. Si ergo nummus potest nulla sui mutatione toties dici relative, ut ncque i cum incipit dici, neque cum desinit, aliquid in ejus natura vel forma, qua nummus est, mutationis fiat; quanto facilius de illa incommutabili Dei substantia debemus accipere, ut ita dicatur rclative aliquid ad crcaturarn, ut quamvis temporaliter incipiat dici, non tamen ipsi substantiæ Dei accidisse aliquid intelli gatur, sed illi creaturæ ad quam dicitur? Domine, inquit, refugium factus es nobis. Refugium ergo nostrum Dens relative dicitur, ad nos enim refertur, et tunc refugium nostrum fit, cum ad eum refugimus: numquid tunc fit aliquid in ejus na tura, quod antequam ad eam refugeremus non erat? Iti nobis ergo fit aliqua mutatio: deteriores enim fuimus antequam ad eum refugeremus, et efficimur ad eum refugiendo meliores: in illo autem nulla. Sic et pater noster esse incipit, cum per ejus gratiam regeneramur, quoniam dedit nobis potestatem filios Dei fieri. Substantia itaque nostra muta tur in melius, cum filii ejus efficimur: simul et ille pater noster esse incipit, sed nulla commutatione suæ substantiae. Quod ergo temporaliter dici incipit Deus quod antea non dicebatur, manifestum est re lative dici: non tamen secundum accidens Dei quod ei aliquid acciderit, sed plane secundum accidens ejus ad quod diei aliquid Deus incipit relative. Et quod amicus Dei justus esse incipit, ipse mutatur: Deus autem absit ut temporaliter aliquem diligat1, quasi nova dilectione quæ in illo ante non erat, apud quem nec præterita transierunt, et futura jam facta sunt. Itaque omnes sanctos suos ante mund! constitutionem dilexit, sicut prædestinavit: sed cum convertuntur et inveniunt illum, tunc incipere ab eo diligi dicuntur, ut co modo dicatur quo potest humano affectu capi quod dicitur. Sic etiam cum iratus malis dicitur, et placidus bonis; illi mutantur, non ipse: sicut lux in firmis oculis aspera, firmis lenis est; ipsorum scilicet mutatione, non sua.
Nor should it trouble us that, although the Holy Spirit is coeternal with the Father and the Son, something is said of him from a point in time, such as this very thing we have called “given.” For the Spirit is eternally gift, but given in time. For if one is not called master except when he begins to have a servant, this relative name too belongs to God from a point in time; for the creature of which he is Lord is not everlasting. How then shall we maintain that even relative terms are not accidents, since nothing happens to God in time, because he is not changeable, as we discussed at the beginning of this inquiry? See, he does not have being Lord everlastingly, lest we be compelled to call the creature everlasting too, since he would not be Lord everlastingly unless it also served everlastingly. For just as there cannot be a servant who has no master, so there cannot be a master who has no servant. And suppose someone comes forward who says that God alone is eternal, and that times are not eternal because of their variety and changeableness, but that times nevertheless did not begin to be in time (for there was no time before times began, and therefore it did not happen to God in time that he was Lord, since he was Lord of the times themselves, which certainly did not begin to be in time): what will he answer about man, who was made in time, and of whom God was certainly not Lord before there was one of whom he could be Lord? Certainly at least that he was the Lord of man happened to God from a point in time; and, so that all dispute may seem to be removed, certainly that he was your Lord or mine, who have only lately begun to be, happened to God from a point in time. Or if this too seems uncertain because of the obscure question about the soul, what of his being Lord of the people of Israel? For even if the nature of the soul which that people had already existed, which we are not now asking, yet that people did not yet exist, and when it began to exist is evident. Finally, that he was Lord of this tree and this crop, which have only lately begun to be, happened from a point in time. For even if the matter itself already existed, yet it is one thing to be Lord of the matter and another to be Lord of a nature already made. For a man too is master of the wood at one time and master of the chest at another, although the chest was made from that very wood, and it certainly did not exist when he was already master of the wood. How then shall we maintain that nothing is said of God according to accident, except that nothing happens to his nature by which it is changed, so that those relative things are accidents which happen with some change of the things of which they are said? As a friend is spoken of relatively; for he does not begin to be a friend except when he has begun to love: some change of will therefore takes place, so that he is called a friend. But when a coin is called a price, it is spoken of relatively, and yet it was not changed when it began to be a price; nor when it is called a pledge, and anything similar. If, then, a coin can so often be spoken of relatively without any change in itself, so that neither when it begins to be so called nor when it ceases does any change take place in its nature or form by which it is a coin, how much more easily ought we to accept of that unchangeable substance of God that something is said of it relatively to the creature in such a way that, although it begins to be said in time, nothing is understood to have happened to the substance of God itself, but only to the creature to which it is related? “Lord,” he says, “you have become our refuge.” God is therefore called our refuge relatively, for he is referred to us; and he becomes our refuge when we take refuge in him. Does anything then come about in his nature that was not there before we took refuge in it? The change therefore takes place in us: for we were worse before we took refuge in him, and by taking refuge in him we are made better; but in him there is none. So too he begins to be our Father when we are regenerated by his grace, since “he gave us power to become sons of God.” Our substance, therefore, is changed for the better when we are made his sons; and at the same time he begins to be our Father, but with no change of his substance. What, therefore, God begins to be called in time that he was not called before is clearly said relatively; yet not according to an accident of God, as though something had happened to him, but plainly according to an accident of that in relation to which God begins to be called something. And when a righteous man begins to be a friend of God, it is he who is changed; but far be it that God should love anyone in time, as though with a new love that was not in him before, with whom things past have not passed away and things future have already been done. So he loved all his saints before the foundation of the world, as he predestined them; but when they are converted and find him, they are then said to begin to be loved by him, so that it may be said in the way in which what is said can be grasped by human feeling. So too when he is said to be angry with the wicked and gentle with the good, they are changed, not he: as light is harsh to weak eyes and gentle to strong ones, by their change, of course, not its own.
Ps 90:1 (89:1 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 1:4 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Names said of God from a point in time, such as Lord, refuge, or Father of the adopted, are relative and imply change only in creatures, never in God's unchangeable substance.
- Ps 90:1 (89:1 LXX/Vulg.); John 1:12; Eph 1:4. “The obscure question about the soul” is the question whether souls exist before the body, which Augustine leaves open.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 5.16 (PL 42:921–923; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-16/#p-5-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 6
6.1PL 42:923
Æqualitatem Patris et Filii et Spiritus sancti putant nonnulli ex hoc impediri quominus intelli gatur, quia scriptum est, Christum Dei virtutem et Dei sapientiam: ut ideo non videatur aequalitas, quia non est Pater ipse virtus et sapientia, sed genitor virtutis et sapientiae. Et revera non me diocri intentione quaeri solet, quomodo dicatur Deus virtutis et sapientiæ Pater. Ait enim Apostolus, Chri stum Dei virtutem et Dei sapientiam. Et hinc nonnulli nostri adversum Arianos hoc modo ra tincinati sunt, eos duntaxat qui prius se adversum catholicam fidem extulerunt. Nam ipse Arius dixisse fertur, Si filius est, natus est; si natus est, erat tem. pus quando non erat filius: non intelligens ctiam natum esse Deo sempiternum esse, ut sit coæternus Patri Filius, sicut splendor qui gignitur ab igne atque diffunditur, coævus est illi, et esset coæternus, si esset ignis æternus. Unde quidam posteriores Ariani abjecerunt istam sententiam, fassique sunt, non ex tempore cæpisse Filium Dei. Sed inter disputationes quas habebant nostri adversum eos qui dicebant, Erat tempus quando non erat Filius, hanc etiam nonnulli ratiocinationem inserebant: Si Dci Filius virtus et sapientia Dei est, nec unquam Deus sine virtute et ssapientia fuit, coæternus est Deo Patri Filias: dicit autem Apostolus, Christum Dei virtutem et Dei sa mentiam; et Deum aliquando non habuisse virtutem ant sapientiam, dementis est dicere: non igitur erat tempus quando non erat Filius. Quæ ratiocinatio ad id cogit, ut dicamus Deum Patrem non esse sapientem, nisi habendo sapienuam quam genuit, nou existendo per se Pater ipsa I sa pientia. Deinde si ita est, Filius quoque ipse sicut dicitur Deus de Deo, lumen de lumine, videndum est utrum possit sapicntia de sapientia dici, si non est Deus Pater ipsa sapientia, sed tantum genitor sapien tiæ. Quod si tenemus, cur non et magnitudinis suæ, et bonitatis, et æternitatis, ct omnipotentiæ suæ genitur sit, ut non ipse sit sua magnitudo, et sua bonitas, et sua aeternitas, et sua omnipotentia, sed ea magnitudine magnus sit quam genuit, et ea bonitate bonus, et ea æternitate æternus, et ea omnipotentia omnipotens quæ de illo nata cst, sicut non ipse sua sapientia est 2, sed ea sapientia sapiens est quæ de illo nata est? Nam illud non est formidandum, ne co gamur multos filios Dei dicere, præter adoptionem creaturae, coaeternos Patri, si magnitudinis suae ge nitor est, et bonitatis, et æternitatis, et omnipoten tia;. Huic enim calumniæ facile respondetur, sic non effici, quia multa nominata sunt, ut ille multorum filiorum coaLternorum sit pater; quemadmodum non efficitur ut duorum sit, cum dicitur Christus Dei vir tus et Dei sapientia. Eadem quippe virtus quae sa pientia, et cadem sapientia quae virtus est: ita igi tur ' etiam de cæteris, ut eadem sit magnitudo quæ virtus, et si qua alia, quæ vel supra commemorata sunt, vel commemorari adhuc possunt.
Some think that the equality of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is hindered from being understood because it is written that Christ is “the power of God and the wisdom of God,” so that equality does not seem to be present, since the Father is not himself power and wisdom but the begetter of power and wisdom. And indeed the question is usually asked with no small attention, how God is called the Father of power and wisdom. For the apostle says that Christ is “the power of God and the wisdom of God.” And from this some of our writers reasoned against the Arians in this way, at least against those who first raised themselves against the catholic faith. For Arius himself is reported to have said, “If he is a son, he was born; if he was born, there was a time when he was not a son,” not understanding that for God even to have been born is everlasting, so that the Son is coeternal with the Father, as the brightness that is generated by fire and spreads from it is of the same age as the fire, and would be coeternal if the fire were eternal. Hence some later Arians abandoned that opinion and confessed that the Son of God did not begin from a point in time. But among the disputations that our writers held against those who said, “There was a time when the Son was not,” some also inserted this argument: “If the Son of God is the power and wisdom of God, and God was never without power and wisdom, the Son is coeternal with God the Father. But the apostle says that Christ is ‘the power of God and the wisdom of God’; and it is the part of a madman to say that God at some time did not have power or wisdom. Therefore there was not a time when the Son was not.” This argument compels us to say that God the Father is not wise except by having the wisdom which he begot, not by the Father being wisdom itself in himself. Then, if this is so, since the Son himself is called God from God, light from light, we must see whether he can be called wisdom from wisdom, if God the Father is not wisdom itself but only the begetter of wisdom. And if we hold this, why is he not also the begetter of his own greatness, goodness, eternity, and omnipotence, so that he is not himself his own greatness, goodness, eternity, and omnipotence, but is great by the greatness which he begot, good by the goodness, eternal by the eternity, and almighty by the omnipotence that was born of him, just as he is not himself his own wisdom, but is wise by the wisdom that was born of him? For we need not fear being compelled to speak of many sons of God coeternal with the Father, besides the adoption of the creature, if he is the begetter of his greatness, goodness, eternity, and omnipotence. This cavil is easily answered: it does not follow, because many things have been named, that he is the father of many coeternal sons, just as it does not follow that he is the father of two when Christ is called the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the same power is wisdom, and the same wisdom is power; and so also with the rest, so that the same greatness is power, and whatever else has been mentioned above or can still be mentioned.
1 Cor 1:24 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine examines an anti-Arian argument from 1 Cor 1:24 that seems to imply the Father is wise only by the wisdom he begot.
- 1 Cor 1:24. The saying attributed to Arius is reported (“fertur”), not quoted from a known writing. “God from God, light from light”: the wording of the Nicene Creed. The opening of the second paragraph (“a 2.”) is a leaked section number, removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (leaked section number): non erat Filius. a 2. Quæ → non erat Filius. Quæ.
Topics: Trinity, Heresy, Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 6.1 (PL 42:923; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-16/#p-6-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.2PL 42:923–925
Sed si non dicitur in se ipso nisi quod ad Filium dicitur, id est, pater, vel genitor, vei prin. cipium ejus; si etiam gignens ei quod de se gignit. consequenter principium est; quidquid autem 1 aliud dicitur, cum Filio dicitur, vel potius in Filio, sive magnus ea magnitudine quam genuit, sive justus ea justitia qnam genuit, sive bonus ea bonitate quam genuit, sive potens ea potentia vel virtute quam ge nuit, sive sapiens ea sapientia quam genuit: magni tudo autem ipsa non dicitur Pater, sed magnitudinis generator: Filius vero sicut in se ipso dicitur Filius, quod non cum Patre dicitur, sed ad Patrem, non sic et in se ipso magnus, sed cum Patre cujus ipse ma gnitudo est: sic et sapiens cum Patre dicitur, cujus ipse sapientia est; sicut ille sapiens cum Filio, quia ea sapientia sapiens est quam genuit: quidquid ergo ad se dicuntur, non dicitur alter sine altero, id est, quidquid dicuntur quod substantiam eorum ostendat, ambo simul dicuntur. Si hæc ita sunt, jam ergo nec Dens est Pater sine Filio, nec Filius Deus sine Patre, sed ambo simul Deus, E'quod dictum est, In principio erat Verbum; in Patre erat Verbum, intelligitur: aut si in principio sic dictum est, ac si diceretur, Ante osnnia; quod sequitur, Et Verbum erat apud Deum, Verbum quidem solus Filius accipitur, non simul Pater ct Filius, tanquam ambo unum Verbum sic enim Verbum quomodo Imago, non autem Pater et Filius simul ambo imago, sed Filius solus imago Pa ti is, quemadmodum et Filius: non enim ambo simul filius): quod vero adjungitur, Et Verbum erat apud Deum; multum est ut sic intelligatur, Verbum, quod solus est Filius, erat apud Deum, quod non solus est Pater, sed Pater et Filius simul Deus. Sed quid mirum, si in duabus quibusdam rebus longe in ter se diversis potest hoc dici? Quid enim tam di versum, quam animus et corpus? Potest tamen dici, Animus erat apud hominem, id est, in homine: cum animus non sit corpus, homo autem animus simul et corpus sit. Ut etiam quod consequenter scriptum est, Et Deus erat Verbum, sic intelligatur: Verbum quod non est Pater, Deus crat simul cum Patre. Itane ergo dicimus, ut Pater sit generator magnitudinis, hoc est generator virtutis, vel gene rator sapientiae suæ: Filius autem magnitudo, virtus, et sapientia: Deus vero magnus, omnipotens, sa piens, ambo simul? Quomodo ergo Deus de Deo, lumen de lumine? Nonenim simul ambo Deus de Deo, sed solus Filius de Deo, scilicet Patre: nec ambo simul lumen de lumine, sed solus Filius de lumine Patre. Nisi forte ad insinuandum et brevissime incul candum quod coæternus est Patri Filius, ita dictum eat, Deus de Deo, et lumen de lumine, et si quid hoc modo dic itur, ac si diceretur, Hoc quod non est Fi lius sine Patre, de hoc quod non est Pater sine Filio, id est, hoc lumen qiod lumen non est sine Patre, de hoc lumine Patre quod lumen non est sine Filio: ut cum dicitur, Deus quod non est Filius sine Patre, et de Deo quod non est Pater sine Filio, perfecte in telligatur quod non præcessit genitor illud quod ge nuit. Quod si ita est, hoc solum de eis dici non po. test, illud de illo, quod simul ambo uon sunt. Sicut Verbum de verbo dici non potest, quia non simui ambo verbum, sed solus Filius: nec imago de ima gine, quia non simul ambo imago: noc Filius de Fi lio, quia non simul ambo filius, secundum quod di. citur, Ego et Pater unum sumus. Unum sumus enim dictum est, Quod ille, l oc et ego secun dum essentiam, non secundum relativum.
But suppose the Father is called nothing in himself except what he is called in relation to the Son, that is, father, or begetter, or his beginning (and the one who begets is consequently the beginning of what he begets from himself); and whatever else he is called, he is called with the Son, or rather in the Son, whether great by the greatness which he begot, or just by the justice which he begot, or good by the goodness which he begot, or powerful by the power or strength which he begot, or wise by the wisdom which he begot; and greatness itself is not said of the Father, but he is the generator of greatness; while the Son, just as he is called Son in himself, which is said not with the Father but in relation to the Father, is not in the same way great in himself, but with the Father, whose greatness he is; and so he is called wise with the Father, whose wisdom he is, just as the Father is wise with the Son, because he is wise by the wisdom which he begot: then whatever they are called with reference to themselves, neither is called without the other; that is, whatever they are called that shows their substance, both are called together. If this is so, then neither is the Father God without the Son, nor the Son God without the Father, but both together are God. And what is said, “In the beginning was the Word,” is understood as “the Word was in the Father”; or if “in the beginning” is said as if it meant “before all things,” then in what follows, “And the Word was with God,” the Word is understood as the Son alone, not the Father and the Son together, as if both were one Word (for he is the Word as he is the Image, and the Father and the Son are not both together the image, but the Son alone is the image of the Father, as he is also the Son; for both together are not the son). But in what is added, “And the Word was with God,” it is a great deal to understand it thus: the Word, which is the Son alone, was with God, which is not the Father alone but the Father and the Son together. But what wonder if this can be said of two things very different from each other? For what is so different as mind and body? Yet one can say, “The mind was with the man,” that is, in the man, although the mind is not the body, while the man is mind and body together. So that what is written next, “And the Word was God,” would be understood thus: the Word, who is not the Father, was God together with the Father. Do we then say that the Father is the generator of his greatness, that is, the generator of his power or of his wisdom, while the Son is the greatness, power, and wisdom, and God, great, almighty, and wise, is both together? How then is he God from God, light from light? For both together are not God from God, but the Son alone is from God, namely the Father; nor are both together light from light, but the Son alone is from the light, the Father. Unless perhaps, in order to suggest and impress most briefly that the Son is coeternal with the Father, it was said “God from God” and “light from light,” and anything said in this way, as if it were said: “This, which is not the Son without the Father, from this, which is not the Father without the Son,” that is, “this light, which is not light without the Father, from this light, the Father, which is not light without the Son”; so that when it is said “God, who is not the Son without the Father, and from God, who is not the Father without the Son,” it may be perfectly understood that the begetter did not precede what he begot. If this is so, the only thing that cannot be said of them, “this from that,” is what both are not together. Thus “Word from Word” cannot be said, because both together are not the Word, but the Son alone; nor “image from image,” because both together are not the image; nor “Son from Son,” because both together are not the son; according to what is said, “I and the Father are one.” For “we are one” is said in the sense: what he is, I also am, according to essence, not according to relation.
John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:30 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine tests where the argument leads: if the Father were wise only with the Son, then neither would be God without the other, and he examines John 1:1 and “God from God” on that view.
- John 1:1; John 10:30. This chapter explores the consequences of the argument introduced in 6.1, which Augustine leaves in suspense until Book 7; it is not yet his conclusion.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 6.2 (PL 42:923–925; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-16/#p-6-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.3PL 42:925–927
Et nescio utrum hive. niatur in Scripturis dictum, unum sunt, quorum est diversa natura. Si autem aliqua plura ejusdem naturre sint, et diversa sentiant, non sunt unum et quantum diversa sentiunt. Nam si jam unum essent es eo quod homines erant, non dice ret, Ut sint unum, sicul noa unum, cum suos discipulos Patri commendaret. At vero Paulus et Apollo, quia et ambo homines, et idem sentiebant: Qui plantat, inquit, et qui rigat, unum sunt. Cum ergo sic dicitur unum, ut uon addatur quid unam, et plura unum dicantur, eadem natura atque essentia, non dissidens nec dissentiens signiHcatur. Cunt vero additur quid unum, potest aliquid significari ex plu ribus unum factui, quamvis diversis natura. Sicut anima et corpus non sunt utique unum; quid enim tam diversum? nisi addatur aut subintelligatur quid unum, id est, unus homo, aut unum anima!. Inde Apostolus: Qui adhæret meretrici, inquit, unum cor pus est: non dixit, Unum sunt, ant, Unum est; sed addidit, corpus, tanquam ex duobus diversis mascu lino et feminino unum corpus adjunctione compos! tum. Et, Qui adhæret Domino, inquit, unus spiritus eit (Id. VI, i6, 17): non dixit, Qui adhæret Domino, unus eSI, aut, unum sunt; sed addidit, spiritus. Di versi sunt enim natura, spiritus hominis ct spiritus Dei 1; sed inhaerendo fit unus spiritus ex diversis duobus, ita ut sine humano spiritu beatus sit Dei spiritus atque perfectus, beatus autem hominis spi ritus non nisi cum Deo. Nec frustra, ut existimo, cum tanta in Evangelio secundum Joannem et toties diceret Dominus de ipsa unitate, vel sua cum Patre, vel nostra invicem nobiscum; nusquam dixit, Ut nos et ipsi Unum: sed, Ut unum sint, sicut et nos unum sumus (Joan. xvn). Pater ergo et Filius unum sunt, utique secundum unitatem substantiæ, et unus Deus est, et unus magnus, et unus sapiens, sicut tractatum est. Unde ergo major Pater? Si enim major, magni ludine major: cum autem magnitudo Filius ejus sit, nec ille utique mnjor est eo qui se genuit, nec ille major est ea magnitudine qua magnus est: ergo aequa lis. Nam unde aqualis, si non eo quo est, cui nou est aliud esse, et aliud magnum esse? Aut si aeternitate Pater major est, non est æqualis Filius quacumque re. Unde enim aqualis? Si magnitudine dixeris, non est par magnitudo, quae minus æterna est, atque ita cætera. An forte in virtute æqualis est, in sapientia vero non cst æqualis? Sed quomodo est æqualis virtul quæ minus sapit? An in sapicntia æqualis est, in virtute autem non est aequalis? Sed quomodo aequalis est sapientia, quc minus potens est? Restat ergo ut si in ulla re xqu:lis non est, in omnibus non sit æqualis. At Scriptura clamat, Non rapinam arbi- Iratus est esse æqualis Deo. Cngilur ergo iuivis adversarius veritatis, qui modo I tenetur apostolica auctoritate, in qualibet vel una re æqua lem Dco Filiuln confiteri. Eligat quam voluerit: hinc ei ostendetur in omnibus esse æqualem, quæ de sub stantia ejus dicuntur.
And I do not know whether it is found said in the Scriptures that things whose nature is different “are one.” But if several things are of the same nature and think differently, they are not one, at least in so far as they think differently. For if the disciples were already one from the fact that they were men, he would not have said, “That they may be one, as we are one,” when he commended his disciples to the Father. But Paul and Apollos, because they were both men and thought the same, are one: “He who plants,” he says, “and he who waters are one.” When, therefore, “one” is said without adding one what, and several things are called one, the same nature and essence is signified, not disagreeing nor dissenting. But when one what is added, it can signify something made one out of several, even though different in nature. So soul and body are certainly not one (for what is so different?), unless one what is added or understood, that is, one man, or one animal. Hence the apostle says, “He who joins himself to a harlot is one body.” He did not say, “They are one,” or “He is one,” but added “body,” as one body composed by joining from two different things, male and female. And, “He who joins himself to the Lord,” he says, “is one spirit.” He did not say, “He who joins himself to the Lord is one,” or “They are one,” but added “spirit.” For the spirit of man and the Spirit of God are different in nature; but by cleaving, one spirit is made from two different ones, in such a way that the Spirit of God is blessed and perfect without the human spirit, but the spirit of man is not blessed except with God. And not without reason, I think, when the Lord in the Gospel according to John spoke so much and so often of unity itself, whether his own with the Father or ours with one another, did he nowhere say, “That they and we may be one,” but, “That they may be one, as we also are one.” The Father and the Son, therefore, are one, certainly according to unity of substance; and there is one God, and one great, and one wise, as has been discussed. How then is the Father greater? For if greater, he is greater in greatness; but since the Son is his greatness, neither is the Son greater than him who begot him, nor is the Father greater than that greatness by which he is great: therefore they are equal. For in what is he equal, if not in that by which he is, for whom to be is not one thing and to be great another? Or if the Father is greater in eternity, the Son is not equal in anything at all. For in what is he equal? If you say in greatness, a greatness that is less eternal is not equal, and so with the rest. Or perhaps he is equal in power but not equal in wisdom? But how is a power equal that is less wise? Or is he equal in wisdom but not equal in power? But how is a wisdom equal that is less powerful? It remains, then, that if he is not equal in any one thing, he is not equal in all. But Scripture cries out, “He did not think it robbery to be equal with God.” Every adversary of the truth, therefore, provided he is bound by apostolic authority, is compelled to confess that the Son is equal to God in at least some one thing. Let him choose which he likes: from it he will be shown to be equal in all the things that are said of his substance.
John 17:11 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:22 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 3:8 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 6:16 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 6:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:6 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Scripture calls things “one” without qualification only when they share one nature; the Father and the Son are one in substance, and equality in any one attribute means equality in all.
- John 17:11, 21–22; 1 Cor 3:8; 1 Cor 6:16–17; Phil 2:6.
Topics: Trinity, Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 6.3 (PL 42:925–927; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-16/#p-6-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.4PL 42:927
Sic euim virtutes quoe sunt in animo humano, quamvis alio atque alio modo singulæ intelligan tur, nullo modo tamen separantur ab invicem, ut quicumque fuerint aequales, verbi gratia, in forti tudine, æquales siut et prudentia, et temperantia, et justitia. Si enim dixeris aequalesesse istos fortitudine, sed illum prestare prudentia; sequitur ut hujus for titudo minus prudens sit, ac per hoc nec fortitudine æquales sunt, quando cst illius fortitudo prudentior. Atque ita de cæteris virtutibus invenies, si omnes cadem consideratione percurras. Non enim de viribus corporis agitur, sed de animi fortitudine. Quanto ergo magis in illa incommutabili æternaque substantia in comparabiliter simpliciore quam est animus huma nas, haec ita se habent? Ilumano quippe animo non hoc est esse quod est fortem esse, aut prudentem, aul justum, aut temperantem: potest enim esse ani mus, lot nullam istarum habere virtutem. Deo autem hoc est esse quod est fortem esse, aut justum esse, aut sapientem esse, et si quid de illa simplici multiplicitate, vel multiplici simplicitate dixeris, quo sub stantia ejus significetur. Quamobrem, sive ita dicatur Deus de Deo, ut et singulis hoc nomen conveniat, non tamen ut ambo simul duo dii, sed unu, Deus sit. Ita enim sibi cohærent, quemadmodum et in distanti hus I diversisque substantiis fieri Apostolus testis est. Nam et solus Dominus spiritus est, et solus lio minis spiritus utique spiritus est, tamen si hæreat Domino unus spiritus est: quanto magis ibi, ubi est omnino inseparabilis atque æterna connexio, ne ab surde dici videatur quasi filius amborum, cum dicitur Filius Dci, si id quod dicitur Deus, non nisi de ambo bus dicitur simul: sive quidquid de Deo dicitur quod substantiam ejus indicet, non nisi de ambobus simul, iun, de ipsa simul Trinitate dicitur? Sive ergo hoc, sive illud sit, quod diligentius discutiendum est, nunc unde:'gitur satis est videre, nullo modo Filium aequa lem esse Putri, si in aliquo scilicet quod pertineat ad significandam ejus substantiam in.equalis invenitur, sicut jam ostendimus. Apostolus autem dixit æqua lem. In omnibus crgo rrqualis cst Patri Filius, ct cst unius ejusdemque substantiæ.
For so the virtues that are in the human mind, although each is understood in its own way, are in no way separated from one another, so that whoever are equal, for example, in courage are equal also in prudence, temperance, and justice. For if you say that these men are equal in courage but that one excels in prudence, it follows that the other's courage is less prudent, and so they are not equal even in courage, since the one's courage is more prudent. And you will find the same of the other virtues if you go through them all with the same consideration. For we are not dealing with strength of body but with courage of mind. How much more, then, do these things hold in that unchangeable and eternal substance, incomparably more simple than the human mind? For to the human mind it is not the same to be as to be courageous, or prudent, or just, or temperate; for a mind can exist and have none of these virtues. But to God it is the same to be as to be strong, or just, or wise, and whatever you may say of that simple multiplicity or multiple simplicity by which his substance is signified. Therefore, whether “God from God” is said in such a way that this name fits each one, yet not so that both together are two gods but one God (for they cohere with each other in the way that the apostle bears witness happens even in distant and different substances; for the Lord alone is spirit, and the spirit of man alone is certainly spirit, yet if it cleaves to the Lord it is one spirit; how much more there, where there is a wholly inseparable and eternal bond?), lest it seem absurdly to be said as though he were the son of both, when he is called the Son of God, if what is called God is said only of both together; or whether whatever is said of God that indicates his substance is said only of both together, or rather of the Trinity itself together: whether it is this or that, which needs more careful discussion, for now it is enough to see that the Son is in no way equal to the Father if he is found unequal in anything that pertains to signifying his substance, as we have already shown. But the apostle called him equal. Therefore the Son is equal to the Father in all things, and is of one and the same substance.
1 Cor 6:17 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 2:6 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: As the virtues in a mind cannot be unequal one by one, so in the simple divine substance the Son, equal in one thing, is equal in all and of one substance with the Father.
- 1 Cor 6:17; Phil 2:6 (referred to). The question left open here (whether “God” is said of each person or only of the Trinity together) is answered in Book 7.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 6.4 (PL 42:927; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-16/#p-6-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.5PL 42:927
Quapropter etiam Spiritus sanctus in eadem unitate substantiæ ct:'qualitate consistit. Sive entm sit unitas amborum, sive sancti tas, sive charitas, sive ideo unitas quia charitas, et ideo charitas quia sanctitas, manifestum est quod nou aliquis duurum est quo uterque conjungitur, quo ge nilus a gignente diligatur, generatoremque suum di ligat, sintque non participatione, sed essentia sua, neque dono superioris alicnjus, sed suo proprio ser vantes unitatem spiritns in vinculo pacis. Quod imitari per gratiam, et ad Deum, et ad nos ipsos jubemur. In quibus duobus præceptis tota Lex pendet et Prophetæ. Ita sunt illa tria, Deus unus, solus, magnus, sapiens, sanctus, beatus. Nos autem ex ipso, et per ipsum, et in ipso beati; quia ipsius munere iuter nos unum,cum illo autem unus spiritus, quia agglutinatur anima nostra post eum. Et nobis hærere Deo bonum est, quia perdet omnem qui fornicatur ab eo. Spiritus ergo sanctus commune aliquid est Patris et Filii, quidquid illud est. At ipsa communio, consubstan tialis et coæterna: quæ si amicitia convenienter dici potest, dicatur; sed aptius dicitur charitas. El hæc quo que substantia, qnia Deus substantia, et Deus charitas, sicut scriptum est. Sicut autem sub stantia simul cum Patre et Filio, ita simul magna, et simul bona, et simul sancta, et quidquid aliud ad se dicitur: quoniam non aliud est Den esse, et:lind magnum esse vel bonum esse, et catera, sicut supra ostendimus. Si enim minus magna est ibi cha ritas quam sapientia, minus quam est diligitur sa pientia::equalis est igitur, ut quanta est sapientia tantum diligatur: est autem sapientia æqualis Patri, sicut supra disputavimus: aqualis est igitur etiam Spiritus sanctus; et si:equalis, in omnibus æqualis propter summam simplicitatem quæ in illa substantia esl. Et ideo non amplius quam tria sunt; unus dili gens eum qni de illo est, et unus diligens eum de quo est, et ipsa dilectio. Qua: si nihil est, quomodo Deus dilectio est? Si non est substantia, quomodo Dens substantia est?
Therefore the Holy Spirit too subsists in the same unity and equality of substance. For whether he is the unity of both, or the holiness, or the love, or the unity because the love, and the love because the holiness, it is clear that he is not one of the two, he by whom each is joined to the other, by whom the begotten is loved by the begetter and loves his begetter, and they are, not by participation but by their own essence, not by the gift of some superior but by their own, “keeping the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.” This we are commanded to imitate by grace, both towards God and towards ourselves: “on these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.” Thus those three are God, one, alone, great, wise, holy, blessed. But we are blessed from him, through him, and in him; because by his gift we are one among ourselves, and one spirit with him, because our soul cleaves after him. And it is good for us to cleave to God, because he will destroy everyone who goes whoring away from him. The Holy Spirit, then, is something common to the Father and the Son, whatever it is. But that communion itself is consubstantial and coeternal; and if it can fittingly be called friendship, let it be so called; but it is more aptly called love. And this too is substance, because God is substance, and “God is love,” as it is written. And just as he is substance together with the Father and the Son, so he is great together with them, and good together, and holy together, and whatever else is said with reference to himself; since for God it is not one thing to be and another to be great or good, and so on, as we showed above. For if love is less great there than wisdom, wisdom is loved less than it is; it is therefore equal, so that wisdom is loved as much as it is. But wisdom is equal to the Father, as we argued above; therefore the Holy Spirit too is equal; and if equal, equal in all things, because of the supreme simplicity which is in that substance. And therefore they are not more than three: one loving him who is from him, and one loving him from whom he is, and love itself. And if this is nothing, how is God love? If it is not substance, how is God substance?
Eph 4:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 22:40 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 11:36 (echo, medium confidence) · Ps 63:8 (62:9 LXX) (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 73:28 (72:28 LXX) (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 73:27 (72:27 LXX) (allusion, high confidence) · 1 John 4:16 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: The Holy Spirit, the common love or communion of the Father and the Son, is equal and consubstantial with them: lover, beloved, and love itself.
- Eph 4:3; Matt 22:40; Rom 11:36 (echo); Ps 63:8 (62:9 LXX/Vulg.); Ps 73:27–28 (72:27–28 LXX/Vulg.), where “goes whoring” (fornicatur) is the Psalm's image of unfaithfulness to God; 1 John 4:8, 16. Augustine's identification of the Spirit with the love of the Father and the Son is given as he states it, with his own hesitations (“whatever it is”).
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 6.5 (PL 42:927; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-16/#p-6-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.6PL 42:927–929
Si autem quæritur quomodo simplex et multiplex sit illa substantia; animadvertenda cst primo creatura quare sit multiplex, nullo autem modo vere simplex. Et prius corpus universum utique par tibus constat; ita ut sit ihi alia par; major, alia mi nor, et majus sit universum qunm pars quælibet aut quantalibet. Nam et coelum et terra partes sunt uni versæ mundanæ molis: et sola terri, et solum coelum innumerabilibus partibus constat, et in tertia sui parte minor est quam in cætera, et in dimidia minor qnam in tota; ct totum mundi corpus quod duabus plerumque partibus appellari solet, id est, cœlum et terra, utique majus est quam solum coelum ant sola terra. Et in unoquoque corpore aliud est magnitudo, aliud color, aliud figura. Polest enim et diminuta ma gnitudine manere idem color et eadem figura, et eolore mutato manere eadem figura ct eadem magnitu do, et figura cadem non manente tam magnum esse et eodem modo coloratum: et quæcumque alia simnl dicuntur de corpore, possunt et simul et plura sine cæteris commutari. Ac per hoc multiplex esse con vincitur natura corporis, simplex autem nullo modo. Creatura quoque spiritualis, sicut est anima, cst quidem in corporis comparatione simplicior: sine com paratione autem corporis multiplex est, etiam ipsa non simplex. Nam ideo simp!icior est corpore, quia non.nole diffunditur per spatium loci, sed in uno quoqne corpore, et in loto lota est, et in qualibet ejus parte tola est; et ideo cum fit aliquid in quavis exigua particula corporis quod sentiat anima, quam vis non fiat in toto corpore, illa tamen tota sentit, quia totam non latet: sed lamcn etiam in anima cumaliud sit artificiosum esse, aliud inertem, aliud acu tum, aliud memorem, aliud cupiditas, aliud timor, aliud lætitia, aliud tristitia, possintque et alia sine aliis, et alia magis, alia minus, innumerabilia et in numerabiliter in animæ natura inveniri; manifestum est nou simplicem, sed multiplicem esse naturam. Nihil enim simplex mutabile est; omnis autem crea tura mutabilis.
But if it is asked how that substance is both simple and manifold, we must first notice why the creature is manifold and in no way truly simple. And first, every body certainly consists of parts, so that one part is greater, another less, and the whole is greater than any part of whatever size. For heaven and earth are parts of the whole mass of the world; and earth alone and heaven alone consist of innumerable parts, and each is less in a third of itself than in the rest, and less in a half than in the whole; and the whole body of the world, which is commonly called by its two parts, heaven and earth, is certainly greater than heaven alone or earth alone. And in each body size is one thing, colour another, shape another. For the same colour and the same shape can remain when the size is reduced; and the same shape and the same size can remain when the colour is changed; and when the shape does not remain the same, it can be just as large and coloured in the same way; and whatever other things are said of a body together can be changed, either together or several without the others. And so the nature of body is shown to be manifold, and in no way simple. The spiritual creature too, such as the soul, is indeed simpler in comparison with the body; but apart from comparison with the body it is manifold, and is not simple either. For it is simpler than the body because it is not spread out in bulk through a space of place, but in each body it is whole in the whole and whole in any part of it; and therefore when something happens in any tiny part of the body which the soul senses, although it does not happen in the whole body, yet the whole soul senses it, because it is not hidden from the whole. But even in the soul, since it is one thing to be skilful, another to be idle, another sharp, another of good memory, and desire is one thing, fear another, joy another, sadness another, and some can be found in the nature of the soul without others, some more and some less, innumerable things in innumerable ways, it is clear that its nature is not simple but manifold. For nothing simple is changeable; but every creature is changeable.
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Summary: Every creature, body and soul alike, is manifold rather than simple, because its qualities can vary independently and it is changeable.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 6.6 (PL 42:927–929; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-16/#p-6-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.7PL 42:929
Deus vero multipliciter quidem dicitur magnus, bonus, sapiens, beatus, verus, et quidquid aliud non indigne dici vi dctur: sed eadem magnitudo ejus est, quæ sapientia; non enim mole magnus est, sed virtute: ei eadem bonitas quæ sapientia et magnitudo, et eadcm veritas quæ illa omnia: et non est ibi aliud beatum esse, et aliud magnum, aut sapientem, aut verum, aut bonum esse, aut omnino ipsum esse. Nec quoniam Trinitas est, ideo triplex putandus est: alioquin minor erit Pater solus, aut Filius solus, quam simul Pater et Filius. Quanquam non inventa tur quomodo dici possit, ant Pater solus, aut Filius solus; cum semper atque inseparabiliter et ille cum Filio sit, et ille cnm Patre a non ut ambo sint Pnler, autambo Filius; sed quia semper in invicem, neutcr solus. Quia vero dicimus et Deum solum ipsam Tri nitatem, quamvis semper sit cum spiritibus et anima bus sanctis; sed solum dicimus quod Deus est, quia non et illi cum illo Deus sunt: ita solum Patrem di cimus Patrem, non quia scparatur a Filio, sed quia non simul ambo Pater sunt.
God, however, is indeed called in many ways great, good, wise, blessed, true, and whatever else seems not unworthily said; but his greatness is the same as his wisdom (for he is great not in bulk but in power), and his goodness is the same as his wisdom and greatness, and his truth the same as all of them; and there it is not one thing to be blessed and another to be great, or wise, or true, or good, or to be at all. Nor, because he is a Trinity, is he therefore to be thought threefold; otherwise the Father alone, or the Son alone, would be less than the Father and the Son together. Although it is not found how one could say either “the Father alone” or “the Son alone,” since always and inseparably the one is with the Son and the other with the Father; not so that both are Father or both Son, but because they are always in each other, neither is alone. But since we also call the Trinity itself God alone, although he is always with holy spirits and souls, yet we say he alone is God because they are not God with him: so we say the Father alone is Father, not because he is separated from the Son, but because both together are not Father.
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Summary: God's many attributes are one in him, and the Trinity is not “threefold”; the Father is “alone” Father only in that both are not Father together.
- A stray letter (“M”) printed before “Nec” is removed.
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- Digital text corrected (stray letter (OCR)): ipsum esse. M Nec → ipsum esse. Nec.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 6.7 (PL 42:929; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-16/#p-6-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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6.8PL 42:929
Cum itaque tantus est solus Pater, vel solus Filius, vel so lus Spiritus sanctus, quantus est simul Pater et Filius et Spiritus sanctus, nullo modo triplex dicendus est. Corpora quippe adjunctione sua crescunt. Qnamvis enin qui adhæret mori suae, unum corpus sit; majus tamen corpus fit, quam si solius viri esset, aut solius uxoris. In rebus autem spiritualibus, cum minor ma jori adhærescit, sicut creatura Creatori, illa lit major quam erat, non ille. In iis enim quae non mole magna sunt, hoc cst majus esse quod est melius esse. Melior autem fit spiritus alicujus creaturae, cum adhæret Creatori, quam si non adhæreat: et ideo etiam major qnia melior. Qui ergo adhæret Domino, unus spiritus est ( I Cor. VI, 17 ): sed tamen Dominus non ideo fit major, quamvis fiat ille qui adhæret Domino. In ipso igitur Deo cum adhreret aequali Patri Filius æqualis aut Spiritus sanctus Patri et Filio æqualis, non lit ma. | jor Deus quam singuli eorum; quia non est quo cre scat illa perfectio. Perfectus autum sive Pater, sive Filius, sive Spiritus sanctus, et perfectus Deus Pater et Filius et Spiritus sanctus: et idco Trinitas potius quam triplex.
Since, then, the Father alone, or the Son alone, or the Holy Spirit alone is as great as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit together, he is in no way to be called threefold. For bodies grow by being joined. For although he who cleaves to his wife is one body, yet it becomes a larger body than if it were the husband's alone or the wife's alone. But in spiritual things, when the lesser cleaves to the greater, as the creature to the Creator, the former becomes greater than it was, not the latter. For in things that are not great in bulk, to be greater is the same as to be better. And the spirit of any creature becomes better when it cleaves to the Creator than if it did not cleave; and therefore also greater, because better. “He, then, who cleaves to the Lord is one spirit”; but yet the Lord does not therefore become greater, although he who cleaves to the Lord does. In God himself, therefore, when the equal Son cleaves to the equal Father, or the Holy Spirit equal to the Father and the Son, God does not become greater than each of them, because there is nothing by which that perfection could grow. But perfect is the Father, perfect the Son, perfect the Holy Spirit, and perfect God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit: and therefore a Trinity rather than threefold.
Gen 2:24 (echo, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 6:17 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Each person is as great as the three together, because perfection cannot grow by joining; God is therefore a Trinity, not threefold.
- Gen 2:24 (echo); 1 Cor 6:17.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 6.8 (PL 42:929; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/5-16/#p-6-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text of the Open Greek and Latin project); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation in NPNF¹ 3 (1887).