On the Trinity 7.6–8.4
Latin text: Migne, PL 42 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 3 (1887).
Chapter 7
7.6PL 42:943–945
Sed ne nobis videar1 suffragari, hoc quo que requiramus. Quanquam ct illi, si vellent, sicut dicunt tres substantias, tres hypostases, possent di cere tres personas tria prosopa. Illud autem malue runt, quod forte secundum linguae su:e consuetudi nem aptius diceretur. Nam et in persouis eadem ra lio eit: non enim aliud cst Dco csse, aliud personam esse, sed omnino idem. Nam si esse ad se dicitur, persona vero relative; sic dicamus Ires personas, Patrem et Filium et Spiritum sanctum, quemadmo dum dicuntur aliqui tres amici, aut tres propinqui, aut tres vicini, quod sim ad inviccm, non quod unus quisque corum sit ad se ipsum. Quapropter quilibet ex eis amicus est duorum cæterorum, aut propinquus ant vicinus, quia hæc nomina rclailvam significatio nem habent. Quid ergo? num placet ut dicamus Pa trem personam esse Filii et Spiritus sancti, aut Filium personam esse Patris et Spiritus sancii, aut Spiri tum sanctum personam esse Patris et Filii? Sed neque persona ila dici alicubi solet, neque in hac Trinitate cum dicimus personaln Patris, aliud dici mus quam substantiam Patris. Quocirca, ut sub stantia Patris ipse Pater est, non quo Pater est, sed quo cst; ita ct persona Patris, non aliud quam ipse Pater est: ad se quippe dicitnr persona, non ad Fi lium vel Spiritum sanctum; sicut ad se dicitur Deus et magnus, et bonus, et justus, et si quid aliud hujus modi. Et quemadmodum hoc illi est esse qnod Dcuin esse, quod inagnum, quod bonum esse; ila hoc illi est esse. quod personam esse. Cur ergo non haec tria simul unam personam dicimus, sicut unam essentiam et unum Deum, sed tres dicimus personas, cum tres Deos aut tres essentias non dicamus; nisi quia vo lumus vel unum aliquod vocabulum servire2 huic si gnificationi qua intelligitur Trinitas, ne omnino tace remus interrogati, quid tres, cum tres esse fatcre mur? Nam si genus est essentia, species autem sub stantia sive persona, ut nonnulli sentiunt, omiuo illud quod jam'din, oportere appellari tres cssentias, ut appellantur tres substantiae vel personæ, sicut ap pellantur tres equi, eademque animalia tria, cum sit species equus, animal genus. Neque euim species ibi pluraliter dicta est, et genus singulariter, tanquam diceretur tres equi unum animal: sed sicut tres equi speciali nomine, ita tria animalia generali nomine. Quod si dicunt substantiæ vel personae nomine non speciem significari, sed aliquid singulare atque indi viduum; ut substantia vel persona non ita dicatur sicut dicitur homo, quod commune est omnibus hominibus, sed quomodo dicitur hic homo, vclut Abra ham, velut Isaac, velut Jacob, vcl si quis alius qui etiam digifo præsens demonstrari possil: sic quoque illos eadem ratio cousequclur. Sicut enim dicuntur Abraham, Isaac et Jacob tria individua, ita tres Iro mines, et tres animæ. Cur orgo et Pater et Filius et Spiritus sanctus, si secundum genus ct speciem et individum eliam ista disserimus, non ita dicuntur tres essentiæ, ut Ires substantiæ seu personæ? Sed hoc, ut dixi, omitto: ilud dico, si essentia genus est, una essentia jam non hahet species; sicut quia genus cst animal, unum animal jam non habet specics. Non sunt ergo Ires species unius essentiæ, Pateret Filius et Spiritus sanctus. Si autem species cst essentia, sicut species eat homo, tres vero illæ quas appella mus substantias sve personas, sic eamdem speciem communiter habent, qucmadmodum Abraham, Isaac et Jacob speciem qu;c homo dicitur, communiter lIa bent; non sicut homo subdividitur in Abraham, Isaac ct Jacob, ita unus homo ct in aliquos singulos homi. nes subdividi potest: omnino cnim non potest, quia unus bomo jam singulus homo cst. Cur ergo una es sentia in tres substantias, vcl personas subdividitur? Nam si essentia species est sicut homo, sic est una essentia sicut unus homo: an sicut dicimus aliquos ires homines ejustem sexus, ejusdem temperationis corporis, ejusdemque animi, unam esse naturam; tres enin. sunt homines, sed una natura: sic eliam ibi dicimus tres subtantias unam essentiam, aut tres personas unam substantiam vel essentiam? Hoc vero utcumque simile csl, quia ct vetcres qui latine loruti sunt, antequam haberent ista nomina, quæ non diu cst ut in usum venerunt, id est essentiam vel sub stantiam, pro his naturam dicebant. Non itaque se cundum genus et species ista dicimus; sed quasi secundum communem eamdemque materiam. Sicut ex eodem anro si fierent tres staluir, diceremus tres statuas unum aurum, nec tamen diceremus genus aurum, species autem statuas; nec aurum speciem, statuas vcro individua. Nulla quippe species indivi dua sua transgreditur, ut aliquid extra comprehen dat, Cum enin. dcfiniero quid sit homo, quod cst nomen speciale, singuli quique homines qui sunt in dividua eadem definitione continentur, nec aliquid ad eam pertinet quod homo non sit. Cum vero aurum definiero, non sohc statuæ, si aureæ fuerint, sed et annuli, etsi quid aliud de auro fuerit, ad aurum per tinebit, etsi nihil inde fiat, aurum dicitur, quia etiamsi non siut aureæ, non idco non crum statuæ. Item nulla species excedit definitionem generis sui. Cum enim definiero animal, quoniam generis hujut species est equus, omnis equus animal est, non au tem statua omnis aurum est. Ideo quamvis in tribus statuis aureis, recte dicamus Ires statuas unum au rum; non tamen ita dicimus, ut genus aurum, spe cies vero statuas intelligamus. Nee sic ergo Trinitatem dicimus tres personas vel substantias, unam essen tiam et unum Deum, tanquam ex una materia tria qua dam subsistant, cti msi quicquid illud est, in hls tribus explicatum sit. Non enin aliquid aliud ejus essentiæ est præter istam Trinitatem: tamen tres personas ejusdem essentiæ, vel tres personas unam essentiam dicimus: Ires autem personas ex eadem essentia non dicimus, quasi aliud ibi sit quod essen tia est, aliud quod persona; sicut tres statuas ex eodem auro possumus dicere; aliud enim illuc est esse aurum. aliud esse statuas. Et cum dicuntur tres homines una natura, vel tres homincs ejusdem na turæ, possunt etiam dici tres homincs ex eadem na tura, quia ei eadem natura et alii tres tales homines possunt existere; in illa vero essentia Trinitatis, nullo modo alia quælibet persona ex eadem essentia potest existere. Dcinde in his rebus non tantum est unus homo, quantum tres homines simul; et plus sunt aliquid homines duo, quam unus homo: et in statuis æqualibus plus auri est tres simul quam singulæ, et minus auri est una quam duae. At in Deo non ita est: non enim major essentia est Pater et Filius et Spiri tus sanctus simul, quam solus Pater aut solus Filius; sed tres simul illæ substantiæ sive personæ, si ita dicendæ sunt, aequales sunt singulis: quod animalis homo non percipit. Non enim potest cogitare nisi moles et spatia, vel minuta vel grandia, volitantibus in animo ejus phantasmatibus tanquam imaginibus corporum. Ex qua immunditia donec purgetur, credat in Patrem et Filium et Spiritum sanctum, unum Deum, sonum, magnum, omnipotentem, bonum, justum, mi sericordem, omnium vi ibilium ct invisibilium condi torem, ct quidquid de illo pro humana facultate digne vereque dici potest, Nequc cum audierii Patrem solum Deum, scparct inde Filium, aut Spiritum sanctum: cum eo quippe solus Deus, cum quo et unus Deus est; quia et Filium cum audimus solum Deum, sine ulla scparalione Patris aut Spiritus sancti oportet accipere. Atque ita dicat unam essentiam, ut non existimet aliud alio, vel majus, vel mclius1, vcl aliqua ex parte diversum. Non tamen ut Patcr ipse sit et Filius et Spiritus sanctus, et quidquid aliud ad alterutrum sin gula dicuntur; sicut Verbum quod non dicitur nisi Filius, aut Donum quod non dicitur nisi Spiritus san ctus: propter quod etiam pluralem numerum admit tunt, sicut in Evangelio scriptum est: Ego et Paler unum sumus. Et unum dixit; et, sumus: unum, secundum essentiam, quod idem Deus;; sumus, sccundum relativum, quod ille Pater, hic Filius. Ali quando ct tacetur unitas essentiæ, ct sola pluraliter relativa commemorantur: Veniemus ad eum ego et Pater, el habitabimus apud cunt. Veniemus et habitabimus, pluralis numerus est, quia præ dictum est, Ego et Parer, id est, Filius et Pater, quæ relative ad invicem dicuntur. Aliquando latenter om nino, sicut in Gencsi: Faciamus hominem ad imaginem et similitudinem nostram. Et faciamus, ct nostram, pluraliter dictum est, et nisi ex relativis ac cipi non oportet1. Non enim ut facerent dii, aut ad imaginem et similitudinem deorum; sed ut facerent Pater et Filius et Spiritus sanctus, ad imaginem Pa tris et Filii et Spiritus sancti, ut subsisteret homo imago Dei. Deus autem Trinitas. Sed quia non om nino aequalis fiebat illa imago Dei, tanquam non ab illo nata, sed ab eo creata, hujus rei significandæ causa, ita imago est ut ad imaginem sit: id est, nn æquatur parilitate, sed quadam similitudine accedit. Nun enim locorum intervallis, sed similitudine acceditur ad Deum, et dissimilkudine receditur ab eo. Sunt enim qui ita distinguunt, ut imaginem velint esse Filium: hominem vero non imaginem, sed ad imaginem. Refel lit autcm eos Apostolus dicens: Vir quidem non debet velare caput, cum sit imago et gloria Dei. Non dixit, Ad imaginem; sed imago. Quoe tamen imago, cum alibi dicitur, Ad imagiaem, non quasi ad Filium dicitur, quae imago aequalis est Patri; alioquin non di ccret, ad imaginem nostram. Quomodo enim nostram i cuna Filius. solius Patris imago sit? Sed propter im parem, ut diximus, similitudinem dictus est homo ad imaginem: et ideo nostram, ut imago Trinitatis esset homo; nen Trinitati æqualis sicut Filius Patri, sed accedens, ut dictum est, quadam similitudine; sicut in dislanlibussignificalur quædam vicinitas, non loci, sud cujusdam imitationis. Ad hoc euim et dicitur, Reformamini in novitate mentis vestræ: quibus item dicit, Estote itaque imitatores Dei, sicut filii charissimi. Novo enim bomini dici tar: Qui renovatur in agnitionem Dei, secundum ima ginem ejus qui creavit eum. Aut si jam placct propter disputandi necessitatem, etiam exce- Viis nominibus relativis, pluralem numerum admittere, ut uno nomine respondeatur, cum quaeritur, quid triaet dicerc tres substantias sive tres personas; nullæ. molcs aut intervalla cogitentur, nulla distantia quan tulæcumque dissimilitudinis, ut ibi I intelligatur aliud alio vel paulo minus, quocumque modo minus esse aliud alio potest: ut neque personarum sit confusio > nec talis distinctio qua sit impar aliquid. Quod si in. tellectu capi non potest, fide teneatur, donec illuce scat in cordibus ille qui ait per prophetam, Nisi cre dideritis non intelligetis (Isai. vn, 9).
But lest I seem to be favouring our own usage, let us look into this too. Although they too, if they wished, as they say three substances, three hypostases, could say three persons, three prosōpa. But they preferred the former, which perhaps was more fittingly said according to the usage of their language. For the same reasoning holds of persons: for to God it is not one thing to be and another to be a person, but wholly the same. For if to be is said with reference to oneself, but person relatively, then let us say three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, as some are called three friends, or three kinsmen, or three neighbours, in that they are so to one another, not in that each of them is so with reference to himself. So any one of them is the friend, or kinsman, or neighbour of the other two, because these names have a relative meaning. What then? Shall we say that the Father is the person of the Son and the Holy Spirit, or the Son the person of the Father and the Holy Spirit, or the Holy Spirit the person of the Father and the Son? But neither is person usually spoken of in this way anywhere, nor in this Trinity, when we say the person of the Father, do we mean anything other than the substance of the Father. Therefore, as the substance of the Father is the Father himself, not by which he is Father but by which he is, so also the person of the Father is nothing other than the Father himself; for person is said with reference to oneself, not with reference to the Son or the Holy Spirit, just as God, and great, and good, and just, and anything else of this kind, are said with reference to oneself. And just as for him to be is the same as to be God, to be great, to be good, so for him to be is the same as to be a person. Why then do we not call these three together one person, as we say one essence and one God, but say three persons, though we do not say three gods or three essences, unless because we wish at least some one word to serve this meaning by which the Trinity is understood, so that we should not be altogether silent when asked “three what?”, since we confess that they are three? For if essence is the genus, and substance or person the species, as some think, then, to omit what I have already said, they ought to be called three essences, as they are called three substances or persons, just as three horses are called three horses and also three animals, since horse is the species and animal the genus. For there the species is not said in the plural and the genus in the singular, as if one said three horses are one animal; but as three horses by the specific name, so three animals by the general name. But if they say that by the name of substance or person not a species is signified, but something singular and individual, so that substance or person is not said as “man” is said, which is common to all men, but as “this man” is said, such as Abraham, such as Isaac, such as Jacob, or anyone else who could be pointed out present with the finger, the same reasoning will overtake them here too. For as Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are called three individuals, so they are called three men and three souls. Why then are the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, if we discuss them too according to genus, species, and individual, not called three essences, as they are called three substances or persons? But this, as I said, I pass over; I say this: if essence is a genus, one essence no longer has species; just as, because animal is a genus, one animal no longer has species. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, then, are not three species of one essence. But if essence is a species, as man is a species, and those three which we call substances or persons have the same species in common, as Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob have in common the species called man, then, not as man is subdivided into Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob can one man also be subdivided into several single men; for it cannot at all, because one man is already a single man. Why then is one essence subdivided into three substances or persons? For if essence is a species like man, there is one essence as there is one man. Or, as we say that three men of the same sex, of the same bodily constitution, and of the same mind, are one nature (for they are three men but one nature), do we likewise say there three substances, one essence, or three persons, one substance or essence? This is in some way similar, because the ancients who spoke Latin, before they had these names, which have not long come into use, that is, essence or substance, said nature instead of them. We do not, then, say these things according to genus and species, but as according to a common and identical matter. As, if three statues were made from the same gold, we would say three statues are one gold, and yet we would not say that gold is the genus and the statues the species, nor gold the species and the statues the individuals. For no species goes beyond its individuals so as to include anything outside them. For when I define what man is, which is a specific name, all the single men, who are the individuals, are contained in the same definition, and nothing belongs to it that is not a man. But when I define gold, not only statues, if they are golden, but rings and anything else made of gold will belong to gold; and even if nothing is made from it, it is called gold, since even if statues are not golden, they are not therefore not statues. Again, no species exceeds the definition of its genus. For when I define animal, since the horse is a species of this genus, every horse is an animal; but not every statue is gold. Therefore, although in three golden statues we rightly say three statues are one gold, we do not say it in such a way as to understand gold as the genus and the statues as the species. Nor, then, do we call the Trinity three persons or substances, one essence and one God, as though three things subsisted from one matter, even if whatever that matter is were wholly unfolded in these three. For there is nothing else of that essence besides this Trinity; yet we say three persons of the same essence, or three persons one essence; but we do not say three persons from the same essence, as though what essence is were one thing there and what person is another, as we can say three statues from the same gold; for there to be gold is one thing and to be statues another. And when three men are said to be one nature, or three men of the same nature, they can also be said to be three men from the same nature, because from the same nature three other such men can also come into existence; but in that essence of the Trinity no other person whatever can in any way come into existence from the same essence. Then, in these things one man is not as much as three men together, and two men are something more than one man; and in equal statues there is more gold in three together than in each, and less gold in one than in two. But in God it is not so: for the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit together are not a greater essence than the Father alone or the Son alone; but those three substances or persons together, if they are to be so called, are equal to each singly; which the unspiritual man does not perceive. For he cannot think except of masses and spaces, small or large, as phantasms like images of bodies flit about in his mind. Until he is cleansed of this uncleanness, let him believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, one God, alone, great, almighty, good, just, merciful, maker of all things visible and invisible, and whatever can be said of him worthily and truly according to human capacity. And when he hears that the Father is the only God, let him not separate the Son or the Holy Spirit from him; for he is the only God together with him with whom he is also one God; since when we hear that the Son is the only God, we must take it without any separation of the Father or the Holy Spirit. And let him so speak of one essence as not to think that one is greater or better than another, or different in any respect. Yet not so that the Father himself is also the Son and the Holy Spirit, and whatever else each is called in relation to another, such as Word, which is said only of the Son, or Gift, which is said only of the Holy Spirit; and for this reason they also admit the plural number, as it is written in the Gospel: “I and the Father are one.” He said both “one” and “are”: “one” according to essence, because they are the same God; “are” according to relation, because the one is Father and the other Son. Sometimes the unity of essence is not mentioned, and only the relations are named, in the plural: “We will come to him, I and the Father, and will make our home with him.” “We will come” and “we will make our home” are plural, because it was said before, “I and the Father,” that is, the Son and the Father, who are spoken of relatively to each other. Sometimes it is wholly hidden, as in Genesis: “Let us make man in our image and likeness.” Both “let us make” and “our” are said in the plural, and must be taken only of the relations. For it is not that gods should make, or in the image and likeness of gods, but that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit should make, in the image of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, so that man might subsist as the image of God. And God is the Trinity. But because that image of God was not made wholly equal, as not born of him but created by him, to signify this it is an image in such a way that it is “to the image”: that is, it is not made equal in parity, but approaches by a certain likeness. For one approaches God not by intervals of place but by likeness, and withdraws from him by unlikeness. For there are some who distinguish in such a way that they would have the Son be the image, but man not the image but “to the image.” But the apostle refutes them, saying, “A man ought not to veil his head, since he is the image and glory of God.” He did not say “to the image,” but “the image.” Yet this image, when elsewhere it is called “to the image,” is not said as though to the Son, who is the image equal to the Father; otherwise he would not say “to our image.” For how “our,” when the Son is the image of the Father alone? But because of the unequal likeness, as we have said, man was said to be “to the image”; and therefore “our,” so that man might be the image of the Trinity; not equal to the Trinity as the Son is to the Father, but approaching, as has been said, by a certain likeness; as in distant things a certain nearness is signified, not of place but of a kind of imitation. For to this end it is also said, “Be re-formed in the newness of your mind”; and to the same he says, “Be therefore imitators of God, as dearest children.” For it is said to the new man: “who is being renewed to the knowledge of God, according to the image of him who created him.” Or, if it is now agreed, because of the necessity of argument, to admit the plural number even apart from the relative names, so that one name may be given in answer when it is asked “three what?”, and to say three substances or three persons, let no masses or intervals be thought of, no distance of unlikeness however small, so that one should be understood there to be even a little less than another, in whatever way one can be less than another; so that there is neither confusion of the persons nor such a distinction as would make anything unequal. And if this cannot be grasped by the understanding, let it be held by faith, until he shines in our hearts who says by the prophet, “Unless you believe, you will not understand.”
1 Cor 2:14 (allusion, high confidence) · John 10:30 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:26 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 11:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 12:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 5:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Col 3:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 7:9 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Neither genus–species nor common matter (three statues from one gold) explains “three persons, one essence”; Augustine shows how Scripture's plurals signify relations and how man is made “to the image” of the Trinity, and urges faith where understanding fails.
- Prosōpa: Greek for “persons” (faces). 1 Cor 2:14 (“the unspiritual man does not perceive”); John 10:30; John 14:23; Gen 1:26; 1 Cor 11:7; Rom 12:2; Eph 5:1; Col 3:10; Isa 7:9 in the LXX form (“unless you believe, you will not understand”). “To the image” renders ad imaginem, which Augustine distinguishes from “the image” (the Son, equal to the Father). The persons who called only the Son the image are unidentified.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 7.6 (PL 42:943–945; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/7-6/#p-7-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text of the Open Greek and Latin project); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation in NPNF¹ 3 (1887).
Chapter 8
8.0PL 42:945–947
Dixi mus:libi, ea dici proprie in illa Trinitate distincte ad singulas personas pertinentia, quæ relative dicuntur ad invicem, sicut Pater et Filius, et utriusque Donum Spiritus sanctus: non enim Pater Trinitas, aut Filius Trinitas, ant Trinitas Donum. Quod vero ad se di cuntur singuli, non dici pluraliter tres, sed unum ipsa u Trinitatem1: sicut Deas Pater, Deus Filius, Deus Spiritus sanctus; et bonus Pater, bonus Filius, honus Spiritus sanctus; et omnipotens Pater-, omni potens Filius, omnipotens Spiritus sanctus: nec ta men tres dii, aut tres boni, aut tres omnipotentes; sed unus Deus, bonus, omnipotens ipsa Trinitas; et quidquid aliud non ad invicem relative, sed ad se sin guli dicuntur. Hoc enim secundum essentiam dicuntur, quia hoc est ibi esse, quod magnum csse, quod bo num esse, quod sapientem esse, et quidquid aliud ad se unaquæque ibi persona, vei ipsa Trinitas dici tur. Ideoque dici tres personas, vel tres substantias, non ut aliqua intelligatur diversitas essentiæ, sed ut vel uno aliquo vocabulo responderi possit, cum dici tur quid tres, vel quid tria; tantamque esse aequalita tom in ea Trinitate, ut non solum Pater non sit major quam Filius, quod attinet ad divinitatem, sed nee Pater ct Filius simul majns aliquid sint qnam Spiritus sanctus, aut singula quæque persona quælibet trium mius aliquid sit quam ipsa Trinitas. Dicta sunt hæc, et si sæpius versando repetantur, familiarius quidem innotescunt: sed et modus aliquis adhibendus est, Deoque supplicandum devotissima pietate, ut intelluctum aperiat, et studium contentionis absumat, quo possit mente cerni essentia veritatis, sine ulla mole, sine ulla mobilitate 2. Nunc itaque, in quantum ipse adjuvat Creator mire misericors, attendamus hæc, qn;c modo interiore quam superiora 3 tractabimus, cum sint eadem: servata illa regula, ut quod intel lectui nostro nondum eluxerit, a firmitate fulci non dimittatur.
We have said elsewhere that in that Trinity those things are said properly, as belonging distinctly to the individual persons, which are said relatively to one another, as Father and Son, and the Gift of both, the Holy Spirit; for the Father is not the Trinity, nor the Son the Trinity, nor the Trinity the Gift. But what is said of each with reference to themselves is not said in the plural as three, but as one, the Trinity itself: as the Father is God, the Son God, the Holy Spirit God; the Father good, the Son good, the Holy Spirit good; the Father almighty, the Son almighty, the Holy Spirit almighty; yet not three gods, or three goods, or three almighties, but one God, good, almighty, the Trinity itself; and whatever else is said of each not relatively to one another but with reference to themselves. For these things are said according to essence, because there to be is the same as to be great, to be good, to be wise, and whatever else each person there, or the Trinity itself, is said to be with reference to itself. And therefore we say three persons, or three substances, not so that any difference of essence may be understood, but so that an answer may be given by at least some one word when it is asked “three what?” or “three things what?” And there is such equality in that Trinity that not only is the Father not greater than the Son as regards divinity, but neither are the Father and the Son together something greater than the Holy Spirit, nor is each single person, whichever of the three, something less than the Trinity itself. These things have been said, and if they are repeated by turning them over more often, they become more familiar; but some measure must be kept, and God must be entreated with most devout piety to open the understanding and take away the zeal for contention, so that the essence of truth may be discerned by the mind without any bulk, without any changeableness. Now, therefore, as far as the Creator, wonderfully merciful, himself helps us, let us attend to these things, which we shall treat in a more inward way than before, though they are the same; keeping that rule, that what has not yet become clear to our understanding is not to be let go from the firmness of faith.
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Summary: Augustine sums up the earlier books: relative names belong to each person, what is said absolutely is said of the one God, and no person is less than the Trinity; he will now treat the same truths more inwardly, holding by faith what is not yet understood.
- Migne's summary of the book and its chapter heading (“Prologue. 1. Summary of what was said above. A rule to be kept in the more difficult questions of faith”) stand at the start of the digital text and are omitted.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's summary of the book and chapter heading): In quo ra'ione reddita monstrat, non solum Patrem Filio non esse majorom, sed nec ambes simul aliquid majus esse quam si tritum sanctum, nec quostit et duos simul in cadem niniale maius esse aliquid quan unum, nec omnes simul tres majus ali quid esse quam s ngulos. Deinde agit ut el ey veritatis intellecLione, ct ex notitia summi huni, et ex insito amore justitiæ, t ro;lcr quam diligitur animus jusltis ab animo eliam nondum justo, intelligatur ipsa natura Dei: maxime vero admonet ut Dei cognitio quæratur er charitatem, quæ ia Scripturis Deus dicitur; qua in charitate etiam Trinitalis vestigium quoddam inesse observat. PRODEMIUM. — I. Epilogus superius dictonrum. Re guta in difficitioribus fidei quæstionibus servanda. → .
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 8.0 (PL 42:945–947; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/7-6/#p-8-0). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.1PL 42:947
Dici mus enim non esse in hacTrinitatc majus aliquid duas aut tres personas quam unam earum: quod non capit consuetudo carnalis, non ob aliud, nisi quia vera quæ creata sunt sentit ut potest; veritatem autem ipsam qua creata sunt non potest intueri: nam si posset, nullo modo esset lux ista corporea manifestior quam hoc quod diximus. In substantia quippe veritatis, quo. niam sola vere est, non est major aliqua, nisi quæ verius est 4. Quidquid autem inetelligibile atque incorn mutabile est, non aliud alio verius est, quin æque incommutabiliter æternum est: nec quod ibi magnum dicitur, aliunde magnum est, quam co quo vere e t5. Quapropter ubi magnitudo ipsa veritas est, quidquid plus habet magnitudinis, necesse cst ut plus habent veritatis: quidquid ergo plus veritatis non habet, non habet plus etiam lnagnitudiwis. Porro, quidquid plus hahct veritatis, profecto verius est, sicut majus est quod plus habet magnitudinis: hoc ergo ibi cst majus quod verius. Non autcm verius est Pater et Filias simul, quam singulus Pater, aut singulus Filius. Non igitur majus aliquid utrumque simul, quam singultum corum. Et quoniam æque vere est etiam Spiritus san ctus, net Pater et Filius simul majus aliquid est quam ipse, quia nec verius est. Pater quoque et Spiritus sanctus simul, quoniam veritate non superant Filium; nnn enim,prius sunt; nec magnitudine superant. At que ita Filius et Spiritus sanctus simul tam magnum aliquid sunt quam Pater solus, quia tam vere sunt. Sic et ipsa Trinitas tam magnum est, quam unaquæ que ibi persona. Non enim ibi major est, quæ verior non est, ubi est ipsa veritas magnitudo. Quia in eg. sentia veritatis, hoc est verum esse quod est esse; et hoc est esse quod est magnum esse: hoc est ergo magnum esse, quod verum esse. Quod igitur ibi æque verum est, etiam æque magnum sit necesse est.
For we say that in this Trinity two or three persons are not something greater than one of them. Carnal habit does not grasp this, for no other reason than that it perceives, as it can, the true things that have been created, but cannot behold the truth itself by which they were created; for if it could, this bodily light would be in no way more evident than what we have said. For in the substance of truth, since it alone truly is, nothing is greater except what more truly is. But whatever is intelligible and unchangeable, one is not more truly than another, since it is equally, unchangeably eternal; nor is what is there called great great from anything else than that by which it truly is. Therefore, where greatness itself is truth, whatever has more greatness must have more truth; so whatever does not have more truth does not have more greatness either. Further, whatever has more truth is certainly truer, as that is greater which has more greatness; so there that is greater which is truer. But the Father and the Son together are not more truly than the Father singly or the Son singly. Both together, therefore, are not something greater than each of them singly. And since the Holy Spirit too is equally truly, neither are the Father and the Son together something greater than he, because they are not more truly either. The Father and the Holy Spirit together, too, since they do not surpass the Son in truth (for they are not more truly), do not surpass him in greatness. And so the Son and the Holy Spirit together are something as great as the Father alone, because they are as truly. So too the Trinity itself is as great as each person in it. For there one is not greater that is not truer, where truth itself is greatness. For in the essence of truth, to be true is the same as to be, and to be is the same as to be great; therefore to be great is the same as to be true. What, therefore, is equally true there must also be equally great.
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Summary: In God greatness is truth, and no person is more truly than another, so two or three persons together are not greater than one.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 8.1 (PL 42:947; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/7-6/#p-8-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.2PL 42:947–949
In cor poribns autcm ficri potest ut æque verum sit hoc au rom atque illud, sed majus hoc sit quam illud, quia non eadem ihi est magnitudo qu:c veritas; aliudque illi est aurum esse, aHud magnum esse. Sic et in ani mi natura, secundum quod dicitur magnus animus, non secundum hoc dicitur vcrus animns. Animum enim,'cruri habet etiam qui non est magnanimus: quandoquidem corporis et animi essentia, non est ipsius veritatis essentia, sicut est Trinitas Deus unus, solus, magnus, verus, verax, veritas. Quem si cogi tare conamur, quantum sinit et donat, nullus cogite tnr per locorum spatia contactus aut complexus, quasi trium corporum; nulla compago juncturæ, sicut tri corporcm. Geryonem fabulæ ferunt: sed quidquid animo tale occurrerit, ut majus sit in tribus qnam in, singulis, minusque in uno quam in duobus, sine u'la dubitatione respuatur: ila enim respuitur omne cor porcum. In spiritualibus antem omne mutabile quod occurrerit, non putetur Deus. Non enim parvæ noti tiæ pars est, cum de profundo isto in illam summita lem respiramus, si antequam scire possimus quid sit Deus, possumus jam scire quid non sit. Non est enim certe, nec terra, nec coelum, nee quasi terra et cœ lum, nec tale aliquid quale videmus in colo, nec quidquid tale non vidcmus I et est fortassis in coelo. Nec si augens imaginatione cogitationis lucem solis, quantum potes, sive quo sit major, sive quo sit cla. rior, millies tantum, aut innumcrahiliter, neque hoc cst Deus. Nec sicut cogitantur 2 Angeli mundi spiritus cœlestia corpora inspirantes, atque ad arbitrium qua serviunt Deo mutantes atque versantes, ncc si omnes, cum sint millia millium, in unum col lati unus fiant, nec tale aliquid Ocus est. Nec si eos dcm spiritus sine corporibus cogites, quod quidem carnali cogitationi difficillimum est. Ecce vide, si po los, o anima prægravata corpore quod corrumpitur, ct onusta terrenis cogitationibus multis et variis; ecce v ide, si potes: Deus Veritas est ( Sap. IX, 15). Hoc enim scriptum est, Quoniam Deus lux est ( I Joan. i, 5): non quomodo isti oculi vident, sed quomodo vidct eor, cum audis I, Ventas est. Noli quærere quid sit veritns; statim enim se opponent caligines imaginum corporalium et nubila phautasmatum, et perturbabunt serenitatem, quæ primo ictu diluxit tibi, cum dise rem, Veritas. Eece in ipso primo ictu quo vclut co ruscatione perstringeris, cum dicitur, Veritas, mane si potes: sed non potes; relaberis in ista solita atque terrena. Quo tandem ponderc, quæso, relabe ris, nisi sordium contraetarum cupiditatis visco et peregrinationis erroribus?
In bodies, however, it can happen that this gold is as truly gold as that, yet this is greater than that, because there greatness is not the same as truth, and for it to be gold is one thing and to be great another. So too in the nature of the mind: a mind is not called true in the respect in which it is called a great mind. For even one who is not great-minded has a true mind; since the essence of body and mind is not the essence of truth itself, as the Trinity is, one God, alone, great, true, truthful, truth. If we try to think of him, as far as he permits and grants, let no contact or embrace through spaces of place be thought of, as of three bodies; no framework of joining, as fables tell of three-bodied Geryon; but whatever of this kind occurs to the mind, so that there is more in three than in each, and less in one than in two, let it be rejected without any hesitation; for so everything bodily is rejected. And in spiritual things, let nothing changeable that occurs to the mind be thought to be God. For it is no small part of knowledge, when we breathe up from this depth to that height, if, before we can know what God is, we can already know what he is not. For certainly he is not earth, nor heaven, nor something like earth and heaven, nor anything such as we see in the heaven, nor anything such as we do not see and is perhaps in the heaven. Nor, if you increase in the imagination of your thought the light of the sun as much as you can, whether to make it greater or brighter, a thousand times or countless times, is this God either. Nor is God as the angels are thought of, pure spirits breathing life into heavenly bodies, and changing and turning them at the will of him whom they serve; nor, if all of them, though they are “thousands of thousands,” were gathered into one and became one, is God anything of this kind; nor if you think of these same spirits without bodies, which is indeed most difficult for carnal thought. See, behold if you can, O soul weighed down by the body that is corrupted, and burdened with many and various earthly thoughts; see, behold if you can: God is truth. For this is written, “For God is light”: not as these eyes see, but as the heart sees, when you hear, “He is truth.” Do not ask what truth is; for at once the fogs of bodily images and the clouds of phantasms will set themselves in the way and disturb the clearness that dawned on you at the first flash, when I said, “Truth.” See, in that very first flash, by which you are dazzled as by lightning when “Truth” is said, remain if you can; but you cannot; you slip back into these usual and earthly things. By what weight, I ask, do you slip back, but by the birdlime of the desire for the filth you have contracted, and by the errors of your pilgrimage?
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Dan 7:10 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 John 1:5 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:6 (echo, low confidence)
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Summary: Unlike bodies, God's greatness is his truth; Augustine urges the reader to reject every bodily or changeable image and hold for a moment the thought “God is truth.”
- Geryon: the three-bodied giant of Greek myth. “Thousands of thousands”: Dan 7:10. “The body that is corrupted weighs down the soul”: Wis 9:15. “God is light”: 1 John 1:5. The marginal reference “(Sap. IX, 15)” printed after “God is truth” belongs to the earlier allusion to Wisdom.
Extrabiblical texts: Wis 9:15 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 8.2 (PL 42:947–949; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/7-6/#p-8-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.3PL 42:949–951
Ecce iterum vide, si potes. Non amas certe nisi bonum, quia bona est terra altitudine montium et temperamento collium et planitie camporum, et bonum,radium amoenum ac fertile, et bona domus patrinis membris disposita et ampla et lucida, et bona animalia animata corpora, et bonus aer modestus et salubris, et bonus cibus suavis atque aptus valetudini, et bona valetudo sine doloribus et lassitudine, ct bona facies hominis dimensa pariliter et affecta hilariter et luculenter colorata, et bonus animus amici consen sionis dulcedine et amoris fide, et bonus vir justus, ot bonæ divitiæ, quia facile expediunt, ei bonum cœlum eun sole et luna et stellis suis, et boni Angeli sancta obedientia, et bona locutio. suaviter docens et con gruenter monens % audientem, et bonum carmen car norum numeris et sententiis grave. Qaid plura et plura? Bonum hoc et bonum illud: tolle hoc ct illud, ci vide ipsum bonum, si polcs; ita Deum vidcbis, non alio bono bonum, sed bonum omnis boni. Neque enim II his omnibus bonis, vel que commemoravi, vel quæ alia cernuntur sivc cogitantur, diceremus aliud alio melius cum vere judicamus, nisi esset nobis im pressa notio ipsius boni, secundum quod et probare mus aliquid, et aliud alii præponeremus. Sic amandus cal Deus, non huc et illud bonum, sed ipsum bonum. Quærendum enim bonum animae, non cui supervolilet judicando, sed cui hæreat amando: et quid hoc, nisi Deus? Non bonus animus, aut bonus angelus, aut bonum cœlum; sed bonum bonuni. Sic enim forte fa cilius advertitur quid velim dicere. Cum enim audio, verbi gratia, quod dicitur animus bonus, sicut duo vci ba suut, ita ex eis verbis duo quædam intelligo: aliud quo animus est, aliud quo bonus. Et quidem ut animus esset, non egit ipse aliquid; non enim jam. cra! quod ageret ut esset: ul autem sit-bonus animus, video agendum esse voiuntalc; non quia idipsum quo animus est, non est aliquid boni; nam unde jam di citur, et verissimo dicitur corpore melior? sed ideo, nondum dicitur bonus animus, quoniam restat ei aetio voluntatis, qua sit præstantior; quam si neglexerit, ' jure culpatur, recteque dicitur non bonus animus. Distat enim ab eo qui hoc agit: et quia ille laudabilis, profecto iste qui hoc non agit, vituperabilis est. Cum vero agit hoc studio, et fit bonus animus, nisi sc ad aliquid convertat quod ipse non est, non potest hoc assequi. Quo se autem convertat ut flat bonus animus, nisi ad bonum, cum hoc amat ct appetit et adipisci tur? Unde se si rursus avertat, fia:que non bonus, hoc ipso quo se avertit a bono, nisi maneat in se illud bonum unde se avertit, non cst quose iterum, si vo luerit emendare, convertat. Quapropter nulla essent mutabilia bona, nisi esset incommutabile bonum. Cum iiaquc audis bonum, hoc et bonum illud, quoe possunt alias dici etiam non bona, si potueris sine illis quæ participatione boni bona sunt, perspicere ipsum bonum cujus participa tione bona sunt; simul enim et ipsum intelligis, cum audis hoc aut illud bonum: si ergo poLueris illis do... tractis per se ipsum perspicere bonum, perspexe ris Deum. Et si amore inhæseris, continuo beati ficaberis. Pudeat autem, cum alia non amentur nisi quia bona sunt, eis inhærendo non amare bonum ipsum unde bona sunt. Illud etiam, quod animus, tantum quia est animus, etiam nondum eo modo bo nus quo se convertit ad incommutabile bonum; sed, ut dixi, tantum animus, cum ita nobis placet ut eum omni etiam luci corporeæ cum bene intelligimus,, præferamus, non in se ipso nobis placet, sed in illa artc qua factus est. Inde enim approbatur factus, ubi videtur fuisse faciendus. Haec est veritas, et simplex: bonum: non enim est aliud aliquid quam ipsum bo num, ac per hoc etiam summum bonum. Non euim minui vel augeri bonum potest, nisi quod ex alio bono bonum est. Ad hoc se igitur animus convertit ut bonus sit, a quo habet ut animus sit. Tunc erga voluntas naturæ congruit ut perficiatur in bono ani. mus, cum illud bonum diligitur 1 conversione volon tatis, unde est et illud quod non amittitur nec aversione voluntatis. Avertendo enim se a summo bono, amittit animus ut sit bonus animus; non autem amit lit ut sit animus, curn et hoc jam bonum sit corpore melius: hoc ergo amittit voluntas, quod voluntas adipiscitur. Jam enim erat animus, qui converti ad id vellet a quo erat: qui autem vellet esse antequam esset nondum erat. Et hoc est bonum nostrum, ubi videmus uirum esse debucrit aut debeat, quidquid esse debuisse aut debere comprehendimus; ct ubi vidcmus esse non potuisse nisi esse debuisset, quid quid etiam quomodo esse -debuerit non comprehendi. mus 2. Hoc ergo bonum non longe positum est ab unoquoque nostrum: in illo enim vivimus, et move. mur, et sumus (Act. XVII, i7, 28).
See again, if you can. Certainly you love nothing but the good, because the earth is good with the height of its mountains, the moderate rise of its hills, and the level of its plains; and a pleasant and fertile estate is good; and a house is good, laid out in balanced parts, spacious and bright; and animals, living bodies, are good; and air is good, mild and healthy; and food is good, pleasant and fit for health; and health is good, without pains and weariness; and a man's face is good, evenly proportioned, cheerful in expression, and bright in colour; and the mind of a friend is good, with the sweetness of agreement and the faithfulness of love; and a just man is good; and riches are good, because they readily help; and the sky is good with its sun and moon and stars; and the angels are good by their holy obedience; and speech is good that teaches the hearer pleasantly and admonishes him fittingly; and a song is good, weighty in its measures and its thoughts. Why say more and more? This is good and that is good: take away this and that, and see good itself, if you can; so you will see God, not good by another good, but the good of every good. For among all these good things, whether those I have mentioned or others that are seen or thought, we would not say, when we judge truly, that one is better than another, unless there were impressed on us the notion of good itself, according to which we both approve something and prefer one thing to another. So God is to be loved, not this or that good, but good itself. For the good of the soul is to be sought, not one over which it flies in judging, but one to which it cleaves in loving; and what is this but God? Not a good mind, or a good angel, or a good sky, but the good good. For so perhaps what I mean to say is more easily noticed. For when I hear, for example, a mind called good, just as there are two words, so from those words I understand two things: one by which it is a mind, the other by which it is good. And indeed, that it might be a mind, it did nothing itself; for there was not yet anything that could act so that it might exist. But that it may be a good mind, I see that it must act by the will; not because that very thing by which it is a mind is not something good (for how else is it called, and most truly called, better than the body?), but it is not yet called a good mind because there remains for it the action of the will by which it may become more excellent; and if it neglects this, it is rightly blamed and rightly called not a good mind. For it differs from one that does this; and since that one is praiseworthy, this one, which does not do it, is certainly blameworthy. But when it does this with zeal and becomes a good mind, it cannot attain it unless it turns to something that it is not itself. And to what should it turn to become a good mind, but to the good, when it loves and desires and attains it? And if it turns away from it again and becomes not good, by the very fact that it turns away from the good, unless that good from which it turns away remains in itself, there is nothing to which it may turn again if it wishes to amend. Therefore there would be no changeable goods unless there were an unchangeable good. When, then, you hear of this good and that good, which can at other times be called not good, if you can see, without those things which are good by participation in the good, good itself, by participation in which they are good (for you understand it too at the same time, when you hear of this or that good), if, I say, you can, with those things taken away, see good by itself, you will have seen God. And if you cleave to him by love, you will at once be made blessed. And it is shameful, since other things are loved only because they are good, to cleave to them and not love the good itself from which they are good. That too, which is a mind only because it is a mind, not yet good in the way in which it turns itself to the unchangeable good, but, as I said, only a mind: when it pleases us so much that, if we understand rightly, we prefer it even to all bodily light, it pleases us not in itself but in that art by which it was made. For it is approved as made there where it is seen to have been worth making. This is truth and the simple good; for it is nothing other than good itself, and therefore also the highest good. For a good cannot be diminished or increased except one that is good from another good. The mind, therefore, turns itself in order to be good to that from which it has its being a mind. Then the will is in harmony with nature, so that the mind may be perfected in good, when that good is loved by the turning of the will, from which comes also that which is not lost even by the turning away of the will. For by turning away from the highest good the mind loses being a good mind; but it does not lose being a mind, since this too is already a good, better than the body. The will, then, loses what the will attains. For the mind already existed which could will to be turned to that from which it was; but what might have willed to be before it was did not yet exist. And this is our good, where we see whether a thing ought to have been or ought to be, whatever we grasp that it ought to have been or ought to be; and where we see that it could not have been unless it ought to have been, even whatever we do not grasp how it ought to have been. This good, then, is “not far from each one of us: for in him we live and move and are.”
Acts 17:27 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 17:28 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: All things we love are good, but beyond this or that good is good itself, which is God; the mind becomes good only by turning in love to this unchangeable good.
- Acts 17:27–28.
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 8.3 (PL 42:949–951; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/7-6/#p-8-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.4PL 42:951
Sed dilectione standum est ad illud et inhærendum illi, at praesente perfruamur a quo sumus, quo absente nec esse possemus. Cum enim per fidem adhuc ambulamus, non per speclem, nondum utique videmus Dcum, sicut idem ait, facie ad faciem (I Cor. xm, 12): quem Ut men nisi nunc jam diligamus, nunquam videbimus. Sed quin diligit quod ignorat? Sciri cnim aliquid et non diligi potest: diligi autem quod nescitur, quæro utrum possit; quia si non potest, nemo diligit Deum antequam sciat. Et quid est Deum scire, nisi eum mente conspicere, firmeque percipere? Non enim cor pus est, ut carneis oculis inquiratur. Sed et prius quam valeamus conspicere at'lue percipere Dcum, sicut conspici et percipi potest, quod mundicordibus licet; Beati enim mundicordes, quia ipsi Deum videbunt: nisi per fidem diligatur, non potent cor mundari, quo ad eum videndum sit aptum et idoneum. Ubi sunt enim illa tria, propter quae in animo ædificanda omnium divinorum Librorum machina menta consurgunt, fides, spes, charitas (I Cor. xm, 13); nisi in animo credente quod nondum videt, et sperante atque amante quod credit? Amatur ergo et qui I ignoratur; sed tamen creditur. Nimirum autem cavendum est, ne credens animus id quod non videt, fingat sibi aliquid quod non est, et speret diligatque quod falsum est. Quod si fit, non crit charitas de corde puro et conscientia bona et fide non ficta, quae finis præcepti cst, sicut idem apostolus dicit. Necesse est autem, cum aliqua corporalia lecta vel audita quæ non vidimus, credimus, fingat sibi aliquid animus in lineamentis formisque corporum, sicut occurrerit cogilanli, quod aut vcrum non sit, aut eliam si,.crum est, quod rarissime potest acci dcre: non hoc tamen fide ut teneamus quidquam prod rst, sed ad aliud aliquid utile, quod per hoc insi. nualur. Quis enim legentium vel audientium quæ scri psit apostolus Paulus, vel quæ de illo scripta sunt, non fingat animo et ipsius Apostoli faciem, ct omnium quorum ibi nomina commemorantur? Et cum in lanta hominum multitudine quibus illæ Litteræ notæ sunt, alius aliter lineamenta figuramque illorum corporum cogitet, quis propinquius et similius cogitet, utique incertum est. Neque ibi occupatur fides nostra, qua facie corporis fuerint illi homines; sed tanlum quia pcr Dei gratiam ita vixerunt, et ea gesserunt quae Scriptura illa testatur: hoc et utile est credere, ct non desperandum, et appetendum. Nam et ipsius Dominica? facics carnis, innumerabilium cogitationum diversitate variatur ct fingitur, quae tamcn una erat, quæcumque erat. Neque in fide nostra quam de Dni mino Jcsu Christo habemus, illud salubre cst quod sibi animus lingit, longe fortasse aliter quam res sc habet, scd illud quod secundum speciem de homine cogitamus: habemus enim quasi regulariter infixam humanæ naturæ notitiam, secundum quam quidquid tale aspicimus, statim bominem esse cognoscimus vel hcminisformam.
But we must stand by love towards that good and cleave to it, so that we may enjoy the presence of him from whom we are, and in whose absence we could not even exist. For since “we still walk by faith, not by sight,” we certainly do not yet see God, as the same apostle says, “face to face”; yet unless we love him already now, we shall never see him. But who loves what he does not know? For something can be known and not loved; but whether what is not known can be loved, I ask; because if it cannot, no one loves God before he knows him. And what is it to know God but to behold him with the mind and to perceive him firmly? For he is not a body, to be searched out by eyes of flesh. But before we are able to behold and perceive God, as he can be beheld and perceived, which is granted to the pure in heart (for “blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God”), unless he is loved by faith, the heart cannot be cleansed so as to be apt and fit to see him. For where are those three, for the building of which in the mind the whole structure of all the divine books rises up, faith, hope, and love, except in a mind that believes what it does not yet see, and hopes for and loves what it believes? He is loved, then, even when he is not known; yet he is believed. But surely we must take care lest the mind, believing what it does not see, invent for itself something that is not, and hope for and love what is false. If this happens, it will not be “love from a pure heart and a good conscience and faith unfeigned,” which is “the end of the commandment,” as the same apostle says. But when we believe bodily things that we have read or heard of and have not seen, the mind must invent for itself something in the outlines and forms of bodies, as it occurs to it in thinking, which either is not true, or, even if it is true, which can very rarely happen, it is of no use to hold it by faith, but it is useful for something else which is suggested through it. For who, reading or hearing what the apostle Paul wrote, or what was written about him, does not invent in his mind both the face of the apostle himself and that of all whose names are mentioned there? And since in so great a multitude of men to whom those writings are known, one pictures the outlines and figure of those bodies one way and another another, who pictures them more nearly and more like is certainly uncertain. Nor is our faith concerned there with what bodily face those men had, but only that by the grace of God they so lived and did the things that that Scripture testifies; this it is useful to believe, and not to despair of, and to desire. For even the face of the Lord's flesh is varied and invented by the diversity of countless thoughts, though it was one, whatever it was. Nor in our faith which we have concerning the Lord Jesus Christ is what the mind invents for itself, perhaps far otherwise than the reality, the saving thing, but what we think of man according to the species; for we have, as it were fixed as a rule, a knowledge of human nature, according to which, whatever such thing we see, we at once know it to be a man or the form of a man.
2 Cor 5:7 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 13:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 5:8 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 13:13 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Tim 1:5 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: We must love God before we see him, and so love him by faith; but faith must not invent false images, and in believing bodily things what matters is the general knowledge of their kind, not imagined details.
- 2 Cor 5:7; 1 Cor 13:12; Matt 5:8; 1 Cor 13:13; 1 Tim 1:5.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 8.4 (PL 42:951; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/7-6/#p-8-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text of the Open Greek and Latin project); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation in NPNF¹ 3 (1887).