Theological Oration 3: On the Son 1–17

Greek text: Mason (Greek text: Arthur James Mason, ed., The Five Theological Orations of Gregory of Nazianzus (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1899), digitized by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 2, vol. 7 (1894).

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Chapter 1

1Mason, 73–74

Ἃ μὲν οὖν εἴποι τις ἂν ἐπικόπτων τὴν περὶ τὸν λόγον αὐτῶν ἑτοιμότητα καὶ ταχύτητα, καὶ τὸ τοῦ τάχους ἐπισφαλὲς ἐν πᾶσι μὲν πράγμασι, μάλιστα δὲ ἐν τοῖς περὶ θεοῦ λόγοις, ταῦτά ἐστιν. ἐπεὶ δὲ τὸ μὲν ἐπιτιμᾷν οὐ μέγα· ῥᾷστον γὰρ καὶ τοῦ βουλομένου παντός· τὸ δὲ ἀντεισάγειν τὴν ἑαυτοῦ γνώμην ἀνδρὸς εὐσεβοῦς καὶ νοῦν ἔχοντος· φέρε, τῷ ἁγίῳ θαρρήσαντες πνεύματι, τῷ παρʼ αὐτῶν μὲν ἀτιμαζομένῳ, παρʼ ἡμῶν δὲ προσκυνουμένῳ, τὰς ἡμετέρας περὶ τῆς θεότητος ὑπολήψεις, αἵ τινές ποτέ εἰσιν, ὥσπερ τινὰ τόκον εὐγενῆ τε καὶ ὥριμον εἰς φῶς προενέγκωμεν· οὐδὲ ἄλλοτε μὲν σιωπήσαντες, τοῦτο γὰρ μόνον ἡμεῖς νεανικοί τε καὶ μεγαλόφρονες, νῦν δὲ καὶ μᾶλλον παρρησιαζόμενοι τὴν ἀλήθειαν· ἵνα μὴ τῇ ὑποστολῇ, καθὼς γέγραπται, τὸ μὴ εὐδοκεῖσθαι κατακριθῶμεν. διττοῦ δὲ ὄντος λόγου παντός, τοῦ μὲν τὸ οἰκεῖον κατασκευάζοντος, τοῦ δὲ τὸ ἀντίπαλον ἀνατρέποντος, καὶ ἡμεῖς τὸν οἰκεῖον ἐκθέμενοι πρότερον, οὕτω τὰ τῶν ἐναντίων ἀνατρέψαι πειρασόμεθα· καὶ ἀμφότερα ὡς οἷόν τε διὰ βραχέων, ἵν εὐσύνοπτα γένηται τὰ λεγόμενα, ὥσπερ ὃν αὐτοὶ λόγον εἰσαγωγικὸν ἐπενόησαν πρὸς ἐξαπάτην τῶν ἁπλουστέρων ἢ εὐηθεστέρων, καὶ μὴ τῷ μήκει τοῦ λόγου διαχεθῇ τὰ νοούμενα, καθάπερ ὕδωρ οὐ σωλῆνι σφιγγόμενον, ἀλλὰ κατὰ πεδίου χεόμενον καὶ λυόμενον.

Ha men oun eipoi tis an epikoptōn tēn peri ton logon autōn hetoimotēta kai tachytēta, kai to tou tachous episphales en pasi men pragmasi, malista de en tois peri theou logois, tauta estin. epei de to men epitimąn ou mega; rhąston gar kai tou boulomenou pantos; to de anteisagein tēn heautou gnōmēn andros eusebous kai noun echontos; phere, tǭ hagiǭ tharrēsantes pneumati, tǭ parʼ autōn men atimazomenǭ, parʼ hēmōn de proskynoumenǭ, tas hēmeteras peri tēs theotētos hypolēpseis, hai tines pote eisin, hōsper tina tokon eugenē te kai hōrimon eis phōs proenenkōmen; oude allote men siōpēsantes, touto gar monon hēmeis neanikoi te kai megalophrones, nyn de kai mallon parrēsiazomenoi tēn alētheian; hina mē tę̄ hypostolę̄, kathōs gegraptai, to mē eudokeisthai katakrithōmen. dittou de ontos logou pantos, tou men to oikeion kataskeuazontos, tou de to antipalon anatrepontos, kai hēmeis ton oikeion ekthemenoi proteron, houtō ta tōn enantiōn anatrepsai peirasometha; kai amphotera hōs hoion te dia bracheōn, hin eusynopta genētai ta legomena, hōsper hon autoi logon eisagōgikon epenoēsan pros exapatēn tōn haplousterōn ē euēthesterōn, kai mē tǭ mēkei tou logou diachethę̄ ta nooumena, kathaper hydōr ou sōlēni sphingomenon, alla kata pediou cheomenon kai lyomenon.

This, then, is what one might say to check their readiness and quickness in argument, and the danger of haste in all matters, but above all in discourse about God. But since finding fault is no great thing (it is very easy, and open to anyone who likes), while putting forward one’s own view in its place is the mark of a pious and sensible man, come, let us take courage in the Holy Spirit, who is dishonoured by them but worshipped by us, and bring our own conceptions of the Godhead, whatever they are, into the light like a noble and timely offspring. We have not been silent at other times (for in this alone we are bold and high-minded), but now we will speak the truth even more freely, so that we may not, as it is written, be condemned as displeasing by shrinking back. Every discourse is twofold: one part establishes its own position, the other overturns the opposing one. So we too will first set out our own position and then try to overturn that of our opponents; and both as briefly as possible, so that what is said may be easily taken in at a glance (like the introductory handbook they themselves devised to deceive the simpler or more foolish), and so that the thoughts may not be dissipated by the length of the discourse, like water that is not confined in a pipe but spreads over a plain and runs to waste.

Heb 10:38 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Gregory turns from criticizing his opponents to setting out the orthodox doctrine of God, promising brevity.

  • Heb 10:38 (“if he shrinks back, my soul has no pleasure in him”). The “introductory handbook” is probably a Eunomian manual of arguments; uncertain.

Topics: Heresy, Trinity

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 1 (Mason, 73–74; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nazianzus-orat-29/1/#p-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Mason's Greek text (1899); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 7 translation (Browne and Swallow, 1894).

Chapter 2

2Mason, 74–76

τρεῖς αἱ ἀνωτάτω δόξαι περὶ θεοῦ, ἀναρχία, καὶ πολυαρχία, καὶ μοναρχία. αἱ μὲν οὖν δύο παισὶν ‘Ελλήνων ἐπαίχθησαν, καὶ παιζέσθωσαν. τό τε γὰρ ἄναρχον ἄτακτον· τό τε πολύαρχον στασιῶδες, καὶ οὕτως ἄναρχον, καὶ οὕτως ἄτακτον. εἰς ταὐτὸν γὰρ ἀμφότερα φέρει, τὴν ἀταξίαν, ἡ δὲ εἰς λύσιν· ἀταξία γὰρ μελέτη λύσεως. ἡμῖν δὲ μοναρχία τὸ τιμώμενον· μοναρχία δέ, οὐχ ἢν ἓν περιγράφει πρόσωπον· ἔστι γὰρ καὶ τὸ ἓν στασιάζον πρὸς ἑαυτὸ πολλὰ καθίστασθαι· ἀλλʼ ἢν φύσεως ὁμοτιμία συνίστησι, καὶ γνώμης σύμπνοια, καὶ ταὐτότης κινήσεως, καὶ πρὸς τὸ ἓν τῶν ἐξ αὐτοῦ σύννευσις, ὅπερ ἀμήχανον ἐπὶ τῆς γενητῆς φύσεως, ὥστε κἂν ἀριθμῷ διαφέρῃ, τῇ γε οὐσίᾳ μὴ τέμνεσθαι. διὰ τοῦτο μονὰς ἀπʼ ἀρχῆς, εἰς δυάδα κινηθεῖσα, μέχρι τριάδος ἔστη. καὶ τοῦτό ἐστιν ἡμῖν ὁ πατήρ, καὶ ὁ υἱός, καὶ τὸ ἅγιον πνεῦμα· ὁ μὲν γεννήτωρ καὶ προβολεύς, λέγω δὲ ἀπαθῶς, καὶ ἀχρόνως, καὶ ἀσωμάτως· τῶν δέ, τὸ μὲν γέννημα, τὸ δὲ πρόβλημα, ἢ οὐκ οἱδʼ ὅπως ἄν τις ταῦτα καλέσειεν, ἀφελὼν πάντῃ τῶν ὁρωμένων. οὐ γὰρ δὴ ὑπέρχυσιν ἀγαθότητος εἰπεῖν θαρρήσομεν, ὃ τῶν παρʼ Ἕλλησι φιλοσοφησάντων εἰπεῖν τις ἐτόλμησεν, οἷον κρατήρ τις ὑπερερρύῃ, σαφῶς οὑτωσὶ λέγων, ἐν οἷς περὶ πρώτου αἰτίου καὶ δευτέρου φιλοσοφεῖ· μή ποτε ἀκούσιον τὴν γέννησιν εἰσαγάγωμεν, καὶ οἷον περίττωμά τι φυσικὸν καὶ δυσκάθεκτον, ἥκιστα ταῖς περὶ θεότητος ὑπονοίαις πρέπον. διὰ τοῦτο ἐπὶ τῶν ἡμετέρων ὅρων ἱστάμενοι τὸ ἀγέννητον εἰσάγομεν, καὶ τὸ γεννητόν, καὶ τὸ ἐκ τοῦ πατρὸς ἐκπορευόμενον, ὥς πού φησιν αὐτὸς ὁ θεὸς καὶ λόγος.

treis hai anōtatō doxai peri theou, anarchia, kai polyarchia, kai monarchia. hai men oun dyo paisin ‘Ellēnōn epaichthēsan, kai paizesthōsan. to te gar anarchon atakton; to te polyarchon stasiōdes, kai houtōs anarchon, kai houtōs atakton. eis tauton gar amphotera pherei, tēn ataxian, hē de eis lysin; ataxia gar meletē lyseōs. hēmin de monarchia to timōmenon; monarchia de, ouch ēn hen perigraphei prosōpon; esti gar kai to hen stasiazon pros heauto polla kathistasthai; allʼ ēn physeōs homotimia synistēsi, kai gnōmēs sympnoia, kai tautotēs kinēseōs, kai pros to hen tōn ex autou synneusis, hoper amēchanon epi tēs genētēs physeōs, hōste kan arithmǭ diapherę̄, tę̄ ge ousią mē temnesthai. dia touto monas apʼ archēs, eis dyada kinētheisa, mechri triados estē. kai touto estin hēmin ho patēr, kai ho huios, kai to hagion pneuma; ho men gennētōr kai proboleus, legō de apathōs, kai achronōs, kai asōmatōs; tōn de, to men gennēma, to de problēma, ē ouk hoidʼ hopōs an tis tauta kaleseien, aphelōn pantę̄ tōn horōmenōn. ou gar dē hyperchysin agathotētos eipein tharrēsomen, ho tōn parʼ Hellēsi philosophēsantōn eipein tis etolmēsen, hoion kratēr tis hypererryę̄, saphōs houtōsi legōn, en hois peri prōtou aitiou kai deuterou philosophei; mē pote akousion tēn gennēsin eisagagōmen, kai hoion perittōma ti physikon kai dyskathekton, hēkista tais peri theotētos hyponoiais prepon. dia touto epi tōn hēmeterōn horōn histamenoi to agennēton eisagomen, kai to gennēton, kai to ek tou patros ekporeuomenon, hōs pou phēsin autos ho theos kai logos.

There are three most ancient opinions about God: anarchy, polyarchy, and monarchy. The first two were the playthings of the children of the Greeks, and let them go on playing with them. For anarchy is disorder; and the rule of many is factious, and so anarchic, and so disorderly. Both lead to the same thing, disorder, and disorder to dissolution, for disorder is a rehearsal for dissolution. What we honour is monarchy; not a monarchy that one person circumscribes (for even the one, if at odds with itself, can become many), but one constituted by equality of honour of nature, agreement of will, sameness of movement, and the convergence toward the one of those who are from it, something impossible in created nature; so that, although there is a difference in number, there is no division in substance. For this reason a monad from the beginning, moved to a dyad, came to rest at a triad. And this for us is the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit: the one the begetter and emitter (I mean impassibly, timelessly, and incorporeally); of the others, one the begotten and the other the emitted, or I do not know what one might call them, abstracting altogether from visible things. We will not dare to speak of an overflow of goodness, as one of the Greek philosophers dared to say, “like a mixing bowl overflowing,” saying so plainly where he philosophizes about the first and second cause; lest we bring in an involuntary begetting, a kind of natural and uncontrollable excess, least fitting for conceptions of the Godhead. For this reason, keeping within our own bounds, we speak of the unbegotten, the begotten, and what proceeds from the Father, as God the Word himself says somewhere.

John 15:26 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Christians worship a divine monarchy that is not one person but one nature shared by Father, Son, and Holy Spirit: the unbegotten, the begotten, and the one who proceeds.

  • The “monarchy” here is a single rule and nature shared equally, not a single person (πρόσωπον, “person”); “substance” renders οὐσία. The “Greek philosopher” of the overflowing bowl is probably Plotinus (Enneads 5.2.1), drawing on Plato’s mixing bowl (Timaeus 41d); identification uncertain. “Proceeds” (ἐκπορευόμενον): John 15:26.

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  • Digital text corrected (hyphenated line break): ἀσω- μάτως → ἀσωμάτως.

Extrabiblical texts: Plato, Tim. 41d (Plato (works); echo); Plotinus, 5.1.6 (Plotinus, Enneads; echo)

Topics: Trinity

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 2 (Mason, 74–76; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nazianzus-orat-29/1/#p-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Mason's Greek text (1899); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 7 translation (Browne and Swallow, 1894).

Chapter 3

3Mason, 76–77

Πότε οὖν ταῦτα; ὑπὲρ τὸ πότε ταῦτα. εἰ δὲ δεῖ τι καὶ νεανικῶς εἰπεῖν, ὅτε ὁ πατήρ. πότε δὲ ὁ πατήρ; οὐκ ἢν ὅτε οὐκ ἦν. τοῦτο οὖν καὶ ὁ υἱός, καὶ τὸ πνεῦμα τὸ ἅγιον. πάλιν ἐρώτα με, καὶ πάλιν ἀποκρινοῦμαί σοι. πότε ὁ υἱὸς γεγέννηται; ὅτε ὁ πατὴρ οὐ γεγέννηται. πότε δὲ τὸ πνεῦμα ἐκπεπόρευται; ὅτε ὁ υἱὸς οὐκ ἐκπεπόρευται, ἀλλὰ γεγέννηται ἀχρόνως καὶ ὑπὲρ λόγον· εἰ καὶ μὴ δυνάμεθα τὸ ὑπὲρ χρόνον παραστῆσαι, θέλοντες χρονικὴν ἐκφυγεῖν ἔμφασιν· τὸ γὰρ ὅτε, καὶ πρὸ τοῦδε, καὶ μετὰ ταῦτα, καὶ ἀπʼ ἀρχῆς, οὐκ ἄχρονα, κἂν ὅτι μάλιστα βιαζώμεθα· πλὴν εἰ τὸ παρεκτεινόμενον τοῖς ἀιδίοις διάστημα τὸν αἰῶνα λαμβάνοιμεν, τὸ μὴ κινήσει τινὶ μηδὲ ἡλίου φορᾷ μεριζόμενον καὶ μετρούμενον, ὅπερ ὁ χρόνος. πῶς οὖν οὐ συνάναρχα, εἰ συναίδια; ὅτι ἐκεῖθεν, εἰ καὶ μὴ μετʼ ἐκεῖνο. τὸ μὲν γὰρ ἄναρχον, καὶ ἀίδιον· τὸ ἀίδιον δέ, οὐ πάντως ἄναρχον, ἕως ἂν εἰς ἀρχὴν ἀναφέρηται τὸν πατέρα. οὐκ ἄναρχα οὖν τῷ αἰτίῳ· δῆλον δὲ τὸ αἴτιον ὡς οὐ πάντως πρεσβύτερον τῶν ὧν αἴτιον· οὐδὲ γὰρ τοῦ φωτὸς ἥλιος. καὶ ἄναρχά πὼς τῷ χρόνῳ, κἂν σὺ μορμολύττῃ τοὺς ἁπλουστέρους· οὐ γὰρ ὑπὸ χρόνον τὰ ἐξ ὧν ὁ χρόνος.

Pote oun tauta? hyper to pote tauta. ei de dei ti kai neanikōs eipein, hote ho patēr. pote de ho patēr? ouk ēn hote ouk ēn. touto oun kai ho huios, kai to pneuma to hagion. palin erōta me, kai palin apokrinoumai soi. pote ho huios gegennētai? hote ho patēr ou gegennētai. pote de to pneuma ekpeporeutai? hote ho huios ouk ekpeporeutai, alla gegennētai achronōs kai hyper logon; ei kai mē dynametha to hyper chronon parastēsai, thelontes chronikēn ekphygein emphasin; to gar hote, kai pro toude, kai meta tauta, kai apʼ archēs, ouk achrona, kan hoti malista biazōmetha; plēn ei to parekteinomenon tois aidiois diastēma ton aiōna lambanoimen, to mē kinēsei tini mēde hēliou phorą merizomenon kai metroumenon, hoper ho chronos. pōs oun ou synanarcha, ei synaidia? hoti ekeithen, ei kai mē metʼ ekeino. to men gar anarchon, kai aidion; to aidion de, ou pantōs anarchon, heōs an eis archēn anapherētai ton patera. ouk anarcha oun tǭ aitiǭ; dēlon de to aition hōs ou pantōs presbyteron tōn hōn aition; oude gar tou phōtos hēlios. kai anarcha pōs tǭ chronǭ, kan sy mormolyttę̄ tous haplousterous; ou gar hypo chronon ta ex hōn ho chronos.

When, then, did these come to be? They are above “when.” But if I must speak somewhat boldly: when the Father did. And when did the Father? There was never a time when he was not. So too, then, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Ask me again, and again I will answer you. When was the Son begotten? When the Father was not begotten. When did the Spirit proceed? When the Son did not proceed but was begotten, timelessly and beyond explanation; although we cannot express what is above time when we wish to avoid a temporal sense. For “when,” “before this,” “after these things,” and “from the beginning” are not timeless, however much we force them; unless we take “age” to mean the extension that is coextensive with eternal things, not divided or measured by any motion or by the course of the sun, as time is. How then are they not without beginning together with the Father, if they are eternal together with him? Because they are from him, though not after him. For what is without beginning is also eternal; but what is eternal is not necessarily without beginning, so long as it refers back to the Father as its beginning. So they are not without beginning with respect to cause; and it is plain that a cause is not necessarily older than what it causes, for the sun is not older than its light. And they are in a sense without beginning with respect to time, even if you frighten the simpler with bogeys; for the sources of time are not subject to time.

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Summary: The Son and the Spirit are eternal with the Father; they have the Father as cause but no beginning in time.

  • “There was never a time when he was not” answers the Arian slogan about the Son, “there was when he was not.”

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (hyphenated line break): μορ- μολύττῃ → μορμολύττῃ.

Topics: Trinity, Christology

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 3 (Mason, 76–77; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nazianzus-orat-29/1/#p-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Mason's Greek text (1899); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 7 translation (Browne and Swallow, 1894).

Chapter 4

4Mason, 77–78

Πῶς οὖν οὐκ ἐμπαθὴς ἡ γέννησις; ὅτι ἀσώματος. εἰ γὰρ ἡ ἐνσώματος ἐμπαθής, ἀπαθὴς ἡ ἀσώματος. ἐγὼ δέ σε ἀντερήσομαι· πῶς θεός, εἰ κτίσμα; οὐ γὰρ θεὸς τὸ κτιζόμενον· ἵνα μὴ λέγω, ὅτι κἀνταῦθα πάθος, ἂν σωματικῶς λαμβάνηται, οἷον χρόνος, ἔφεσις, ἀνατύπωσις, φροντίς, ἐλπίς, λύπη, κίνδυνος, ἀποτυχία, διόρθωσις· ἃ πάντα καὶ πλείω τούτων περὶ τὴν κτίσιν, ὡς πᾶσιν εὔδηλον. θαυμάζω δέ, ὅτι μὴ καὶ τοῦτο τολμᾷς, συνδυασμούς τινας ἐννοεῖν, καὶ χρόνους κυήσεως, καὶ κινδύνους ἀμβλώσεως, ὡς οὐδὲ γεννᾷν ἐγχωροῦν, εἰ μὴ οὕτω γεγέννηκεν· ἢ πάλιν πτηνῶν τινὰς καὶ χερσαίων καὶ ἐνύδρων γεννήσεις ἀπαριθμούμενος, τούτων τινὶ τῶν γεννήσεων ὑπάγειν τὴν θείαν καὶ ἀνεκλάλητον, ἢ καὶ τὸν υἱὸν ἀναιρεῖν ἐκ τῆς καινῆς ὑποθέσεως. καὶ οὐδʼ ἐκεῖνο δύνασαι συνιδεῖν, ὅτι ᾧ διάφορος ἡ κατὰ σάρκα γέννησις, — ποῦ γὰρ ἐν τοῖς σοῖς ἔγνως θεοτόκον παρθένον; — τούτῳ καὶ ἡ πνευματικὴ γέννησις ἐξαλλάττουσα· μᾶλλον δέ, ᾧ τὸ εἶναι μὴ ταὐτόν, τούτῳ καὶ τὸ γεννᾷν διάφορον.

Pōs oun ouk empathēs hē gennēsis? hoti asōmatos. ei gar hē ensōmatos empathēs, apathēs hē asōmatos. egō de se anterēsomai; pōs theos, ei ktisma? ou gar theos to ktizomenon; hina mē legō, hoti kantautha pathos, an sōmatikōs lambanētai, hoion chronos, ephesis, anatypōsis, phrontis, elpis, lypē, kindynos, apotychia, diorthōsis; ha panta kai pleiō toutōn peri tēn ktisin, hōs pasin eudēlon. thaumazō de, hoti mē kai touto tolmąs, syndyasmous tinas ennoein, kai chronous kyēseōs, kai kindynous amblōseōs, hōs oude gennąn enchōroun, ei mē houtō gegennēken; ē palin ptēnōn tinas kai chersaiōn kai enydrōn gennēseis aparithmoumenos, toutōn tini tōn gennēseōn hypagein tēn theian kai aneklalēton, ē kai ton huion anairein ek tēs kainēs hypotheseōs. kai oudʼ ekeino dynasai synidein, hoti hǭ diaphoros hē kata sarka gennēsis, — pou gar en tois sois egnōs theotokon parthenon? — toutǭ kai hē pneumatikē gennēsis exallattousa; mallon de, hǭ to einai mē tauton, toutǭ kai to gennąn diaphoron.

How then is the begetting not a matter of passion? Because it is incorporeal. For if bodily begetting involves passion, incorporeal begetting is free of passion. But I will ask you in return: how is he God, if he is a creature? For what is created is not God. I will not say that there is passion here too, if it is taken in a bodily way: time, desire, forming an image, anxiety, hope, grief, risk, failure, correction, all of which and more belong to creation, as everyone sees. I am surprised you do not dare to go so far as to think of couplings, times of pregnancy, and dangers of miscarriage, as though he could not have begotten at all if he had not begotten in this way; or again, listing the ways birds, land animals, and water creatures reproduce, to bring the divine and ineffable begetting under one of these, or even to abolish the Son on the strength of this novel hypothesis. And you cannot even see that he whose birth in the flesh was different (for where among your examples did you find a virgin mother of God?) also differs in his spiritual begetting; or rather, he whose being is not the same as ours begets in a different way too.

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Summary: The Son’s begetting is incorporeal and free from passion, as different from ours as his virgin birth was.

  • θεοτόκον παρθένον: “a virgin mother of God” (Theotokos).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR letter slip; hyphenated line break): Ἠὼς οὖν → Πῶς οὖν; κτιζό- μένον → κτιζόμενον; ἀνεκλά- λῆτον → ἀνεκλάλητον.

Topics: Christology, Trinity

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 4 (Mason, 77–78; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nazianzus-orat-29/1/#p-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Mason's Greek text (1899); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 7 translation (Browne and Swallow, 1894).

Chapter 5

5Mason, 78–80

τίς οὖν ἐστὶ πατὴρ οὐκ ἠργμένος; ὅς τις οὐδὲ τοῦ εἶναι ἤρξατο· ᾧ δὲ τὸ εἶναι ἤρξατο, τούτῳ καὶ τὸ εἶναι πατρί. οὔκουν πατὴρ ὕστερον, οὐ γὰρ ἤρξατο· καὶ πατὴρ κυρίως, ὅτι μὴ καὶ υἱός· ὥσπερ καὶ υἱὸς κυρίως, ὅτι μὴ καὶ πατήρ. τὰ γὰρ ἡμέτερα οὐ κυρίως, ὅτι καὶ ἄμφω· οὐ γὰρ τόδε μᾶλλον ἢ τόδε· καὶ ἐξ ἀμφοῖν ἡμεῖς, οὐχ ἑνός, ὥστε μερίζεσθαι, καὶ κατʼ ὀλίγον ἄνθρωποι, καὶ ἴσως οὐδὲ ἄνθρωποι, καὶ οἷοι μὴ τεθελήμεθα, καὶ ἀφιέντες καὶ ἀφιέμενοι, ὡς μόνας τὰς σχέσεις λείπεσθαι ὀρφανὰς τῶν πραγμάτων. ἀλλὰ τὸ ἐγέννησε, φησίν, αὐτό, καὶ τὸ γεγέννηται, τί ἄλλο, ἢ ἀρχὴν εἰσάγει γεννήσεως; τί οὖν ἂν μηδὲ τοῦτο λέγωμεν, ἀλλʼ ἦν ἀπʼ ἀρχῆς γεγεννημένος, ἵνα σου ῥᾳδίως φύγωμεν τὰς περιέργους ἐνστάσεις καὶ φιλοχρόνους; ἆρα γραφὴν ἀποίσεις καθʼ ἡμῶν, ὡς παραχαραττόντων τι τῆς γραφῆς καὶ τῆς ἀληθείας; ἢ πᾶσιν εὔδηλον, ὅτι πολλὰ τῶν χρονικῶς λεγομένων ἐνηλλαγμένως τοῖς χρόνοις προφέρεται, καὶ μάλιστα παρὰ τῇ συνηθείᾳ τῆς γραφῆς, οὐχ ὅσα τοῦ παρεληλυθότος χρόνου μόνον ἐστίν, ἢ τοῦ παρόντος, ἀλλὰ καὶ ὅσα τοῦ μέλλοντος; ὡς τό· Ἵνα τί ἐφρύαξαν ἔθνη; οὔπω γὰρ ἐφρυάξαντο· καί, Ἐν ποταμῷ διελεύσονται ποδί· ὅπερ ἐστί, διαβεβήκασι. καὶ μακρὸν ἂν εἴη πάσας ἀπαριθμεῖν τὰς τοιαύτας φωνάς, αἳ τοῖς φιλοπόνοις τετήρηνται.

tis oun esti patēr ouk ērgmenos? hos tis oude tou einai ērxato; hǭ de to einai ērxato, toutǭ kai to einai patri. oukoun patēr hysteron, ou gar ērxato; kai patēr kyriōs, hoti mē kai huios; hōsper kai huios kyriōs, hoti mē kai patēr. ta gar hēmetera ou kyriōs, hoti kai amphō; ou gar tode mallon ē tode; kai ex amphoin hēmeis, ouch henos, hōste merizesthai, kai katʼ oligon anthrōpoi, kai isōs oude anthrōpoi, kai hoioi mē tethelēmetha, kai aphientes kai aphiemenoi, hōs monas tas scheseis leipesthai orphanas tōn pragmatōn. alla to egennēse, phēsin, auto, kai to gegennētai, ti allo, ē archēn eisagei gennēseōs? ti oun an mēde touto legōmen, allʼ ēn apʼ archēs gegennēmenos, hina sou rhądiōs phygōmen tas periergous enstaseis kai philochronous? ara graphēn apoiseis kathʼ hēmōn, hōs paracharattontōn ti tēs graphēs kai tēs alētheias? ē pasin eudēlon, hoti polla tōn chronikōs legomenōn enēllagmenōs tois chronois propheretai, kai malista para tę̄ synētheią tēs graphēs, ouch hosa tou parelēlythotos chronou monon estin, ē tou parontos, alla kai hosa tou mellontos? hōs to; Hina ti ephryaxan ethnē? oupō gar ephryaxanto; kai, En potamǭ dieleusontai podi; hoper esti, diabebēkasi. kai makron an eiē pasas aparithmein tas toiautas phōnas, hai tois philoponois tetērēntai.

Who, then, is a Father who did not begin to be one? He who did not begin to exist. One whose existence began also began to be a father. So he did not become Father later, for he did not begin. And he is Father in the proper sense, because he is not also son; just as the Son is Son in the proper sense, because he is not also father. Our relations are not so in the proper sense, because we are both, and not one more than the other; and we come from two, not one, so that we are divided, and become human beings gradually, and perhaps not even human beings, and such as we were not wanted to be, leaving and being left, so that only the relations remain, orphaned of the realities. “But the words ‘he begot’ and ‘he was begotten,’” he says, “what else do they introduce but a beginning of begetting?” What if we do not even say this, but “he was begotten from the beginning,” so as easily to escape your meddling and time-bound objections? Will you bring Scripture against us, as though we were debasing something in Scripture and the truth? Or is it not plain to everyone that many things said with reference to time are expressed with the tenses interchanged, especially in the usage of Scripture, not only of past or present time but also of the future? As in “Why did the nations rage?” for they had not yet raged; and “They will pass through the river on foot,” meaning they have crossed. It would take long to list all such expressions, which have been noted by the diligent.

Ps 2:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 66:6 (65:6 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: God is Father eternally and in the proper sense; biblical tenses show that “he begot” need not imply a temporal beginning.

  • Ps 2:1; Ps 66:6 (LXX 65:6). The opponents’ objection is set in quotation marks.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR capital Φ): Φιλοχρόνους → φιλοχρόνους; προΦέρεται → προφέρεται.

Topics: Trinity, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 5 (Mason, 78–80; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nazianzus-orat-29/1/#p-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 6

6Mason, 80–82

τοῦτο μὲν δὴ τοιοῦτον. οἷον δὲ αὐτῶν κἀκεῖνο, ὡς λίαν δύσερι καὶ ἀναίσχυντον· βουληθείς, φασι, γεγέννηκε τὸν υἱόν, ἢ μὴ βουλόμενος. εἶτα δεσμοῦσιν, ὡς οἴονται, ἀμφοτέρωθεν ἅμμασιν, οὐκ ἰσχυροῖς, ἁλλὰ καὶ λίαν σαθροῖς. εἰ μὲν γὰρ οὐ θέλων, φασί, τετυράννηται. καὶ τίς το ὁ τυραννήσας; καὶ πῶς ὁ τυραννηθεὶς θεός; εἰ δὲ θέλων, θελήσεως υἱὸς ὁ υἱός· πῶς οὖν ἐκ τοῦ πατρός; καὶ καινήν τινα μητέρα τὴν θέλησιν ἀντὶ τοῦ πατρὸς ἀναπλάττουσιν. ἓν μὲν οὖν τοῦτο χαρίεν αὐτῶν, ἂν τοῦτο λέγωσιν, ὅτι τοῦ πάθους ἀποστάντες ἐπὶ τὴν βούλησιν καταφεύγουσιν· οὐ γὰρ πάθος ἡ βούλησις. δεύτερον δὲ ἴδωμεν τὸ ἰσχυρὸν αὐτῶν, ὅ τι λέγουσιν. ἄριστον δὲ αὐτοῖς συμπλακῆναι πρότερον ἐγγυτέρω. σὺ δὲ αὐτὸς ὁ λέγων εὐχερῶς ὅ τι ἃν ἐθέλῃς, ἐκ θέλοντος ὑπέστης τοῦ σοῦ πατρός, ἢ μὴ θέλοντος; εἰ μὲν γὰρ ἐξ οὐ θέλοντος, τετυράννηται. τῆς βίας· καὶ τίς ὁ τυραννήσας αὐτόν; οὐ γὰρ δὴ τὴν φύσιν ἐρεῖς· ἐκείνη γὰρ ἔχει καὶ τὸ σωφρονεῖν. εἰ δὲ θέλοντος, ἀπόλωλέ σοι διʼ ὀλίγας συλλαβὰς ὁ πατήρ. θελήματος γὰρ υἱός, ἁλλʼ οὐ πατρὸς ἀναπέφηνας. ἀλλʼ ἐπὶ τὸν θεὸν μέτειμι καὶ τὰ κτίσματα, καὶ τὸ σὸν ἐρώτημα προσάγω τῇ σῇ σοφίᾳ. θέλων ὑπέστησε τὰ πάντα, ἢ βιασθείς; εἰ μὲν βιασθείς, κἀνταῦθα ἡ τυραννίς, καὶ ὁ τυραννήσας. εἰ δὲ βουλόμενος, ἐστέρηται τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ τὰ κτίσματα, καὶ σὺ πρὸ τῶν ἄλλων, ὁ τοιούτους ἀνευρίσκων λογισμοὺς καὶ τοιαῦτα σοφιζόμενος. θελήσει γὰρ μέσῃ τοῦ κτίστου διατειχίζεται. ἁλλʼ ἕτερον, οἶμαι, θέλων ἐστὶ καὶ θέλησις, γεννῶν καὶ γέννησις, λέγων καὶ λόγος, εἰ μὴ μεθύομεν. τὰ μὲν ὁ κινούμενος, τὰ δὲ οἷον ἡ κίνησις. οὔκουν θελήσεως τὸ θεληθέν· οὐδὲ γὰρ ἕπεται πάντως· οὐδὲ τὸ γεννηθὲν γεννήσεως, οὐδὲ τὸ ἀκουσθὲν ἐκφωνήσεως, ἀλλὰ τοῦ θέλοντος, καὶ τοῦ γεννήσαντος, καὶ τοῦ λέγοντος. τὰ τοῦ θεοῦ δὲ καὶ ὑπὲρ πάντα ταῦτα, ᾧ γέννησίς ἐστιν ἴσως ἡ τοῦ γεννᾷν θέλησις, ἀλλʼ οὐδὲν μέσον, εἴ γε καὶ τοῦτο δεξώμεθα ὅλως, ἀλλὰ μὴ καὶ θελήσεως κρείττων ἢ γέννησις.

touto men dē toiouton. hoion de autōn kakeino, hōs lian dyseri kai anaischynton; boulētheis, phasi, gegennēke ton huion, ē mē boulomenos. eita desmousin, hōs oiontai, amphoterōthen hammasin, ouk ischyrois, halla kai lian sathrois. ei men gar ou thelōn, phasi, tetyrannētai. kai tis to ho tyrannēsas? kai pōs ho tyrannētheis theos? ei de thelōn, thelēseōs huios ho huios; pōs oun ek tou patros? kai kainēn tina mētera tēn thelēsin anti tou patros anaplattousin. hen men oun touto charien autōn, an touto legōsin, hoti tou pathous apostantes epi tēn boulēsin katapheugousin; ou gar pathos hē boulēsis. deuteron de idōmen to ischyron autōn, ho ti legousin. ariston de autois symplakēnai proteron engyterō. sy de autos ho legōn eucherōs ho ti han ethelę̄s, ek thelontos hypestēs tou sou patros, ē mē thelontos? ei men gar ex ou thelontos, tetyrannētai. tēs bias; kai tis ho tyrannēsas auton? ou gar dē tēn physin ereis; ekeinē gar echei kai to sōphronein. ei de thelontos, apolōle soi diʼ oligas syllabas ho patēr. thelēmatos gar huios, hallʼ ou patros anapephēnas. allʼ epi ton theon meteimi kai ta ktismata, kai to son erōtēma prosagō tę̄ sę̄ sophią. thelōn hypestēse ta panta, ē biastheis? ei men biastheis, kantautha hē tyrannis, kai ho tyrannēsas. ei de boulomenos, esterētai tou theou kai ta ktismata, kai sy pro tōn allōn, ho toioutous aneuriskōn logismous kai toiauta sophizomenos. thelēsei gar mesę̄ tou ktistou diateichizetai. hallʼ heteron, oimai, thelōn esti kai thelēsis, gennōn kai gennēsis, legōn kai logos, ei mē methyomen. ta men ho kinoumenos, ta de hoion hē kinēsis. oukoun thelēseōs to thelēthen; oude gar hepetai pantōs; oude to gennēthen gennēseōs, oude to akousthen ekphōnēseōs, alla tou thelontos, kai tou gennēsantos, kai tou legontos. ta tou theou de kai hyper panta tauta, hǭ gennēsis estin isōs hē tou gennąn thelēsis, allʼ ouden meson, ei ge kai touto dexōmetha holōs, alla mē kai thelēseōs kreittōn ē gennēsis.

So much for that. Consider another of their arguments, which is very contentious and shameless. “Did he beget the Son,” they say, “willing it, or not willing it?” Then, as they think, they bind us on both sides with knots, which are not strong but very weak. “If he did not will it,” they say, “he was under compulsion. And who compelled him? And how is one who was compelled God? But if he willed it, the Son is a son of will; how then is he from the Father?” And they invent a new kind of mother, the will, in place of the Father. One pleasing thing in them, if they say this, is that they abandon passion and take refuge in will; for will is not a passion. Secondly, let us see what their strong argument amounts to. It is best to grapple with them at close quarters first. You yourself, who say so easily whatever you like: did you come into being from a father who willed it or who did not will it? If from one who did not will it, he was compelled. What violence! And who compelled him? You will not say nature, for nature also allows for self-control. If from one who willed it, your father has perished for you in a few syllables: you have turned out to be the son of a will and not of a father. But I will pass on to God and his creatures and put your question to your wisdom. Did he bring all things into being willingly or under compulsion? If under compulsion, here too there is tyranny and one who exercised it. If willingly, the creatures too are deprived of God, and you before all, who invent such arguments and play such sophistries; for they are walled off from the Creator by the will in between. But one who wills is different, I think, from willing, one who begets from begetting, one who speaks from speech, unless we are drunk: the one is the mover, the other, as it were, the motion. So what is willed is not the offspring of willing, for it does not always follow; nor is what is begotten the offspring of begetting, nor what is heard of utterance, but of the one who wills, begets, and speaks. The things of God are beyond all these; for him perhaps begetting is the will to beget, but with nothing in between, if we accept even this at all, and do not rather say that begetting is superior to will.

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Summary: Gregory turns the Eunomian dilemma about the Father begetting “willingly or unwillingly” back on its authors.

  • The Eunomian dilemma is set in quotation marks.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR mark for punctuation): ἀναίσχυντον* → ἀναίσχυντον·.

Topics: Trinity, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 6 (Mason, 80–82; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nazianzus-orat-29/1/#p-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Mason's Greek text (1899); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 7 translation (Browne and Swallow, 1894).

Chapter 7

7Mason, 82–83

Βούλει τι προσπαίξω καὶ τὸν πατέρα; παρὰ σοῦ γὰρ ἔχω τὰ τοιαῦτα τολμᾷν. θέλων θεὸς ὁ πατήρ, ἢ μὴ θέλων. καὶ ὅπως ἀποφεύξῃ τὸ σὸν περιδέξιον, εἰ μὲν δὴ θέλων, πότε τοῦ θέλειν ἠργμένος; οὐ γὰρ πρὶν εἶναι· οὐδὲ γὰρ ἦν τι πρότερον. ἢ τὸ μὲν αὐτοῦ θελῆσαν, τὸ δὲ θεληθέν; μεριστὸς οὖν. πῶς δὲ οὐ θελήσεως καὶ οὗτος, κατὰ σέ, πρόβλημα; εἰ δὲ οὐ θέλων, τί τὸ βιασάμενον εἰς τὸ εἶναι; καὶ πῶς θεός, εἰ βεβίασται, καὶ ταῦτα οὐκ ἄλλο τι ἢ αὐτὸ τὸ εἶναι θεός; πῶς οὖν γεγέννηται; πῶς ἔκτισται, εἴπερ ἔκτισται κατὰ σέ; καὶ γὰρ καὶ τοῦτο τῆς αὐτῆς ἀπορίας. τάχα ἂν εἴποις, βουλήσει καὶ λόγῳ. ἀλλʼ οὔπω λέγεις τὸ πᾶν. πῶς γὰρ ἔργου δύναμιν ἔσχεν ἡ βούλησις καὶ ὁ λόγος; ἔτι λείπεται λέγειν. οὐ γὰρ οὕτως ἄνθρωπος.

Boulei ti prospaixō kai ton patera? para sou gar echō ta toiauta tolmąn. thelōn theos ho patēr, ē mē thelōn. kai hopōs apopheuxę̄ to son peridexion, ei men dē thelōn, pote tou thelein ērgmenos? ou gar prin einai; oude gar ēn ti proteron. ē to men autou thelēsan, to de thelēthen? meristos oun. pōs de ou thelēseōs kai houtos, kata se, problēma? ei de ou thelōn, ti to biasamenon eis to einai? kai pōs theos, ei bebiastai, kai tauta ouk allo ti ē auto to einai theos? pōs oun gegennētai? pōs ektistai, eiper ektistai kata se? kai gar kai touto tēs autēs aporias. tacha an eipois, boulēsei kai logǭ. allʼ oupō legeis to pan. pōs gar ergou dynamin eschen hē boulēsis kai ho logos? eti leipetai legein. ou gar houtōs anthrōpos.

Would you like me to play a little with the Father too? You have given me licence for such daring. The Father is God either willing or not willing. And how will you escape your own two-edged argument? If willing, when did he begin to will? Not before he existed, for there was nothing before. Or is part of him the willer and part the willed? Then he is divisible. And how is he too not, on your reasoning, the product of will? If not willing, what compelled him to exist? And how is he God if he was compelled, and that to nothing other than being God? How then was the Son begotten? How was he created, if he was created, as you say? For this too is the same difficulty. Perhaps you would say, by will and word. But you have not yet said everything: how did will and word get the power to act? That remains to be said, for that is not how it is with a human being.

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Summary: Applied to the Father’s own existence, the Eunomian question about will proves absurd.

Topics: Trinity, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 7 (Mason, 82–83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nazianzus-orat-29/1/#p-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 8

8Mason, 83–85

Πῶς οὖν γεγέννηται; οὐκ ἂν ἢν μεγάλη ἡ γέννησις, εἰ σοὶ κατελαμβάνετο, ὃς οὐδὲ τὴν ἰδίαν ἐπίστῃ γέννησιν, ἢ μικρόν τι ταύτης κατείληφας, καὶ ὅσον αἰσχύνῃ λέγειν· ἔπειτα οἴει τὸ πᾶν γινώσκειν; πολλὰ ἂν κάμοις πρότερον, ἢ εὕροις λόγους συμπήξεως, μορφώσεως, φανερώσεως, ψυχῆς πρὸς σῶμα δεσμόν, νοῦ πρὸς ψυχήν, λόγου πρὸς νοῦν, κίνησιν, αὔξησιν, τροφῆς ἐξομοίωσιν, αἴσθησιν, μνήμην, ἀνάμνησιν, τἄλλα ἐξ ὧν συνέστηκας· καὶ τίνα μὲν τοῦ συναμφοτέρου ψυχῆς καὶ σώματος, τίνα δὲ τὰ μεμερισμένα, τίνα δὲ ἃ παρʼ ἀλλήλων λαμβάνουσιν· ὧν γὰρ ὕστερον ἡ τελείωσις, τούτων οἱ λόγοι μετὰ τῆς γεννήσεως. εἰπὲ τίνες· καὶ μηδὲ τότε φιλοσοφήσῃς θεοῦ γέννησιν· οὐ γὰρ ἀσφαλές. εἰ μὲν γὰρ τὴν σὴν γινώσκεις, οὐ πάντως καὶ τὴν τοῦ θεοῦ· εἰ δὲ μηδὲ τὴν σήν, πῶς τὴν τοῦ θεοῦ; ὅσῳ γὰρ θεὸς ἀνθρώπου δυστεκμαρτότερος, τοσούτῳ καὶ τῆς σῆς γεννήσεως ἀληπτοτέρα ἡ ἄνω γέννησις. εἰ δὲ ὅτι μή σοι κατείληπται, διὰ τοῦτο οὐδὲ γεγέννηται, ὥρα σοι πολλὰ διαγράφειν τῶν ὄντων, ἃ μὴ κατείληφας, καὶ πρό γε ἁπάντων τὸν θεὸν αὐτόν· οὐδὲ γὰρ ὅ τι ποτέ ἐστιν εἰπεῖν ἔχεις, καὶ εἰ λίαν τολμηρὸς εἰ, καὶ τὰ περιττὰ μεγαλόψυχος. κατάβαλέ σου τὰς ῥεύσεις, καὶ τὰς διαιρέσεις, καὶ τὰς τομάς, καὶ τὸ ὡς περὶ σώματος διανοεῖσθαι τῆς ἀσωμάτου φύσεως· καὶ τάχα ἃν ἄξιόν τι διανοηθείης θεοῦ γεννήσεως. πῶς γεγέννηται; πάλιν γὰρ τὸ αὐτὸ φθέγξομαι δυσχεραίνων. θεοῦ γέννησις σιωπῇ τιμάσθω. μέγα σοι τὸ μαθεῖν, ὅτι γεγέννηται. τὸ δὲ πῶς, οὐδὲ ἀγγέλοις ἐννοεῖν, μὴ ὅτι γέ σοι νοεῖν συγχωρήσομεν. βούλει παραστήσω τὸ πῶς; ὡς οἶδεν ὁ γεννήσας πατήρ, καὶ ὁ γεννηθεὶς υἱός. τὸ δὲ ὑπὲρ ταῦτα νέφει κρύπτεται, τὴν σὴν διαφεῦγον ἀμβλυωπίαν.

Pōs oun gegennētai? ouk an ēn megalē hē gennēsis, ei soi katelambaneto, hos oude tēn idian epistę̄ gennēsin, ē mikron ti tautēs kateilēphas, kai hoson aischynę̄ legein; epeita oiei to pan ginōskein? polla an kamois proteron, ē heurois logous sympēxeōs, morphōseōs, phanerōseōs, psychēs pros sōma desmon, nou pros psychēn, logou pros noun, kinēsin, auxēsin, trophēs exomoiōsin, aisthēsin, mnēmēn, anamnēsin, talla ex hōn synestēkas; kai tina men tou synamphoterou psychēs kai sōmatos, tina de ta memerismena, tina de ha parʼ allēlōn lambanousin; hōn gar hysteron hē teleiōsis, toutōn hoi logoi meta tēs gennēseōs. eipe tines; kai mēde tote philosophēsę̄s theou gennēsin; ou gar asphales. ei men gar tēn sēn ginōskeis, ou pantōs kai tēn tou theou; ei de mēde tēn sēn, pōs tēn tou theou? hosǭ gar theos anthrōpou dystekmartoteros, tosoutǭ kai tēs sēs gennēseōs alēptotera hē anō gennēsis. ei de hoti mē soi kateilēptai, dia touto oude gegennētai, hōra soi polla diagraphein tōn ontōn, ha mē kateilēphas, kai pro ge hapantōn ton theon auton; oude gar ho ti pote estin eipein echeis, kai ei lian tolmēros ei, kai ta peritta megalopsychos. katabale sou tas rheuseis, kai tas diaireseis, kai tas tomas, kai to hōs peri sōmatos dianoeisthai tēs asōmatou physeōs; kai tacha han axion ti dianoētheiēs theou gennēseōs. pōs gegennētai? palin gar to auto phthenxomai dyscherainōn. theou gennēsis siōpę̄ timasthō. mega soi to mathein, hoti gegennētai. to de pōs, oude angelois ennoein, mē hoti ge soi noein synchōrēsomen. boulei parastēsō to pōs? hōs oiden ho gennēsas patēr, kai ho gennētheis huios. to de hyper tauta nephei kryptetai, tēn sēn diapheugon amblyōpian.

How then was he begotten? The begetting would not be great if it were grasped by you, who do not even know your own begetting, or have grasped only a little of it, and that such as you are ashamed to speak of; and then you think you know the whole? You would toil long before you found the principles of your composition, formation, and manifestation, the bond of soul to body, of mind to soul, of reason to mind; movement, growth, the assimilation of food, sense, memory, recollection, and the other things of which you are made; which belong to soul and body together, which to each separately, and which they receive from one another. For the principles of those things whose completion comes later are present with the begetting. Tell me what they are; and even then do not philosophize about the begetting of God, for it is not safe. For if you know your own, it does not follow that you know God’s; and if you do not even know your own, how can you know God’s? As God is harder to trace out than man, so much is the begetting above harder to grasp than yours. And if, because you have not grasped it, he was therefore not begotten, it is time for you to strike out many things that exist which you have not grasped, and above all God himself; for you cannot say what he is, however daring you are and extravagant in your ambitions. Throw away your flowings and divisions and cuttings, and your thinking of the incorporeal nature as of a body, and perhaps you might think something worthy of the begetting of God. How was he begotten? I will say the same thing again, with vexation: let the begetting of God be honoured in silence. It is a great thing for you to learn that he was begotten. How, we will not grant that even angels understand, let alone you. Shall I show you how? As the Father who begot knows, and the Son who was begotten. Anything beyond this is hidden by a cloud and escapes your dim sight.

Isa 53:8 (echo, low confidence)

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Summary: No one can explain how the Son was begotten; since we do not understand even our own birth, God’s begetting must be honoured in silence.

  • Isa 53:8 (“who will declare his generation?”) lies in the background; not quoted.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (hyphenated line break): γέν- νησις → γέννησις.

Topics: Trinity, Christology

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 8 (Mason, 83–85; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nazianzus-orat-29/1/#p-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 9

9Mason, 85–87

ὄντα οὖν γεγέννηκεν, ἢ οὐκ ὄντα; τῶν ληρημάτων· περὶ ἐμὲ καὶ σὲ ταῦτα, οἳ τὸ μέν τι ἦμεν, ὥσπερ ἐν τῇ ὀσφύι τοῦ Ἀβραὰμ ὁ Λευὶ, τὸ δὲ γεγόναμενʼ ὥστε ἐξ ὄντων τρόπον τινὰ τὸ ἡμέτερον, καὶ οὐκ ὄντων· ἐναντίως περὶ τὴν ἀρχέγονον ὕλην ὑποστᾶσαν σαφῶς ἐξ οὐκ ὄντων, κἄν τινες ἀγένητον ἀναπλάττωσιν. ἐνταῦθα δὲ σύνδρομον τῷ εἶναι τὸ γεγεννῆσθαι, καὶ ἀπʼ ἀρχῆς· ὥστε ποῦ θήσεις τὸ ἀμφίκρημνον τοῦτο ἐρώτημα; τί γὰρ τοῦ ἀπʼ ἀρχῆς πρεσβύτερον, ἵν ἐκεῖ θῶμεν τὸ εἶναί ποτε τοῦ υἱοῦ, ἢ τὸ μὴ εἶναι; ἀμφοτέρως γὰρ τὸ ἀπʼ ἀρχῆς λυθήσεται. εἰ μή σοι καὶ ὁ πατήρ, πάλιν ἐρωτώντων ἡμῶν, ἐξ ὄντων, ἢ ἐξ οὐκ ὄντων, κινδυνεύσειεν ἢ δὶς εἶναι, ὃ μὲν προών, ὃ δὲ ὤν, ἢ ταὐτὸν τῷ υἱῷ παθεῖν, ἐξ οὐκ ὄντων εἶναι, διὰ τὰ σὰ τῶν ἐρωτημάτων παίγνια, καὶ τὰς ἐκ ψάμμων οἰκοδομάς, αἱ μηδὲ αὔραις ἵστανται. ἐγὼ μὲν οὖν οὐδέτερον τούτων δέχομαι, καὶ τὴν ἐρώτησίν φημι τὸ ἄτοπον ἔχειν, οὐχὶ τὸ ἄπορον τὴν ἀπάντησιν. εἰ δέ σοι φαίνεται ἀναγκαῖον εἶναι τὸ ἕτερον ἀληθεύειν ἐπὶ παντός, κατὰ τὰς σὰς διαλεκτικὰς ὑπολήψεις, δέξαι μού τι μικρὸν ἐρώτημα. ὁ χρόνος ἐν χρόνῳ, ἢ οὐκ ἐν χρόνῳ; εἰ μὲν οὖν ἐν χρόνῳ, τίνι τούτῳ; καὶ τί παρὰ τοῦτον ὄντι; καὶ πῶς περιέχοντι; εἰ δὲ οὐκ ἐν χρόνῳ, τίς ἢ περιττὴ σοφία χρόνον εἰσάγειν ἄχρονον; τοῦ δέ, Νῦν ἐγὼ ψεύδομαι, δὸς τὸ ἕτερον, ἢ ἀληθεύεσθαι μόνον, ἢ ψεύδεσθαι· οὐ γὰρ ἀμφότερα δώσομεν. ἀλλʼ οὐκ ἐνδέχεται. ἢ γὰρ ψευδόμενος ἀληθεύσει, ἢ ἀληθεύων ψεύσεται· πᾶσα ἀνάγκη. τί οὖν θαυμαστόν, ὥσπερ ἐνταῦθα συμβαίνει τὰ ἐναντία, οὕτως ἐκεῖσε ἀμφότερα ψεύδεσθαι, καὶ οὕτω σοι τὸ σοφὸν ἠλίθιον ἀναφανήσεται; ἓν ἔτι μοι λῦσον τῶν αἰνιγμάτων· σεαυτῷ δὲ γεννωμένῳ παρῆς; πάρει δὲ νῦν; ἢ οὐδέτερον; εἰ μὲν γὰρ καὶ παρῆς, καὶ πάρει, ὡς τίς, καὶ τίνι; καὶ πῶς ὁ εἷς ἄμφω γεγόνατε; εἰ δὲ μηδέτερον τῶν εἰρημένων, πῶς σεαυτοῦ χωρίζῃ; καὶ τίς ἡ αἰτία τῆς διαζεύξεως; ἀλλʼ ἀπαίδευτον περὶ τοῦ ἑνός, εἰ ἑαυτῷ πάρεστιν, ἢ μή, πολυπραγμονεῖν. ταῦτα γὰρ ἐπʼ ἄλλων, οὐχ ἑαυτοῦ λέγεται. ἀπαιδευτότερον, εὖ ἴσθι, τὸ ἀπʼ ἀρχῆς γεγεννημένον, εἰ ἢν πρὸ τῆς γεννήσεως, ἢ οὐκ ἦν, διευθύνεσθαι. οὗτος γὰρ περὶ τῶν χρόνῳ διαιρετῶν ὁ λόγος.

onta oun gegennēken, ē ouk onta? tōn lērēmatōn; peri eme kai se tauta, hoi to men ti ēmen, hōsper en tę̄ osphui tou Abraam ho Leui, to de gegonamenʼ hōste ex ontōn tropon tina to hēmeteron, kai ouk ontōn; enantiōs peri tēn archegonon hylēn hypostasan saphōs ex ouk ontōn, kan tines agenēton anaplattōsin. entautha de syndromon tǭ einai to gegennēsthai, kai apʼ archēs; hōste pou thēseis to amphikrēmnon touto erōtēma? ti gar tou apʼ archēs presbyteron, hin ekei thōmen to einai pote tou huiou, ē to mē einai? amphoterōs gar to apʼ archēs lythēsetai. ei mē soi kai ho patēr, palin erōtōntōn hēmōn, ex ontōn, ē ex ouk ontōn, kindyneuseien ē dis einai, ho men proōn, ho de ōn, ē tauton tǭ huiǭ pathein, ex ouk ontōn einai, dia ta sa tōn erōtēmatōn paignia, kai tas ek psammōn oikodomas, hai mēde aurais histantai. egō men oun oudeteron toutōn dechomai, kai tēn erōtēsin phēmi to atopon echein, ouchi to aporon tēn apantēsin. ei de soi phainetai anankaion einai to heteron alētheuein epi pantos, kata tas sas dialektikas hypolēpseis, dexai mou ti mikron erōtēma. ho chronos en chronǭ, ē ouk en chronǭ? ei men oun en chronǭ, tini toutǭ? kai ti para touton onti? kai pōs periechonti? ei de ouk en chronǭ, tis ē perittē sophia chronon eisagein achronon? tou de, Nyn egō pseudomai, dos to heteron, ē alētheuesthai monon, ē pseudesthai; ou gar amphotera dōsomen. allʼ ouk endechetai. ē gar pseudomenos alētheusei, ē alētheuōn pseusetai; pasa anankē. ti oun thaumaston, hōsper entautha symbainei ta enantia, houtōs ekeise amphotera pseudesthai, kai houtō soi to sophon ēlithion anaphanēsetai? hen eti moi lyson tōn ainigmatōn; seautǭ de gennōmenǭ parēs? parei de nyn? ē oudeteron? ei men gar kai parēs, kai parei, hōs tis, kai tini? kai pōs ho heis amphō gegonate? ei de mēdeteron tōn eirēmenōn, pōs seautou chōrizę̄? kai tis hē aitia tēs diazeuxeōs? allʼ apaideuton peri tou henos, ei heautǭ parestin, ē mē, polypragmonein. tauta gar epʼ allōn, ouch heautou legetai. apaideutoteron, eu isthi, to apʼ archēs gegennēmenon, ei ēn pro tēs gennēseōs, ē ouk ēn, dieuthynesthai. houtos gar peri tōn chronǭ diairetōn ho logos.

“Did he, then, beget one who existed or one who did not exist?” What nonsense! That applies to you and me, who in part existed, as Levi did in the loins of Abraham, and in part came into being; so that our existence comes in a way both from what existed and from what did not. The opposite is true of primeval matter, which clearly came into being from what did not exist, even if some imagine it to be unoriginate. But here being begotten coincides with being, and is from the beginning. Where then will you put this precipitous question? For what is older than “from the beginning,” that we may place there the Son’s having once existed or not existed? Either way, “from the beginning” will be destroyed. Unless, when we ask whether the Father too is from what exists or from what does not, he runs the risk of either existing twice, once pre-existing and once existing, or of suffering the same as the Son and being from what does not exist, because of your playthings of questions and your houses built on sand, which cannot stand even against breezes. I accept neither alternative; and I say that the absurdity lies in the question, not a difficulty in the answer. But if you think, by your dialectical assumptions, that one of the two must be true in every case, accept a small question from me. Is time in time or not in time? If in time, in what time? And what is that besides time? And how does it contain time? If not in time, what surpassing wisdom it is to bring in a timeless time! Take the statement, “I am now lying”: grant one of the two, that it is only true or only false; for we will not grant both. But that cannot be; for either in lying he will speak the truth, or in speaking the truth he will lie; it is inevitable. What wonder, then, that as here opposites coincide, so there both are false, and so your cleverness will turn out foolish? Solve one more riddle for me. Were you present to yourself when you were being born? Are you present to yourself now? Or neither? If you were and are, as whom, and to whom? And how did you, being one, become both? If neither, how are you separated from yourself, and what is the cause of the separation? “But it is uneducated to inquire about one being whether it is present to itself or not; for these things are said of others, not of oneself.” It is more uneducated, you may be sure, to inquire whether what was begotten from the beginning existed before its begetting or not. For that question applies to things divided by time.

Heb 7:10 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 7:26 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The question whether the Father begot a Son who already existed or did not is as meaningless as the liar paradox or asking whether time is in time.

  • Heb 7:10 (Levi in Abraham’s loins); Matt 7:26 (house on sand). The Eunomian questions and objection are set in quotation marks. The digital text’s “IO” (a stray number) is removed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (hyphenated line break; stray line number): δια- λεκτικὰς → διαλεκτικὰς; χρόνῳ, IO τίνι → χρόνῳ, τίνι; δώ- σομεν → δώσομεν.

Topics: Trinity, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 9 (Mason, 85–87; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nazianzus-orat-29/1/#p-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 10

10Mason, 87–88

Ἀλλʼ οὐ ταὐτόν, φησι, τὸ ἀγέννητον καὶ τὸ γεννητόν. εἰ δὲ τοῦτο, οὐδὲ ὁ υἱὸς τῷ πατρὶ ταὐτόν. ὅτι μὲν φανερῶς ὁ λόγος οὗτος ἐκβάλλει τὸν υἱὸν τῆς θεότητος, ἢ τὸν πατέρα, τί χρὴ λέγειν; εἰ γὰρ τὸ ἀγέννητον οὐσία θεοῦ, τὸ γεννητὸν οὐκ οὐσία· εἰ δὲ τοῦτο, οὐκ ἐκεῖνο. τίς ἀντερεῖ λόγος; ἑλοῦ τοίνυν τῶν ἀσεβειῶν ὁποτέραν βούλει, ὦ κενὲ θεολόγε, εἴπερ ἀσεβεῖν πάντως ἐσπούδακας. ἔπειτα πῶς οὐ ταὐτὸν λέγεις τὸ ἀγέννητον καὶ τὸ γεννητόν; εἰ μὲν τὸ μὴ ἐκτισμένον καὶ ἐκτισμένον, κἀγὼ δέχομαι. οὐ γὰρ ταὐτὸν τῆ φύσει τὸ ἄναρχον καὶ τὸ κτιζόμενον. εἰ δὲ τὸ γεγεννηκὸς καὶ τὸ γεγεννημένον, οὐκ ὀρθῶς λέγεται. ταὐτὸν γὰρ εἶναι πᾶσα ἀνάγκη. αὕτη γὰρ φύσις γεννήματος, ταὐτὸν εἶναι τῷ γεγεννηκότι κατὰ τὴν φύσιν. ἢ οὕτω πάλιν· πῶς λέγεις τὸ ἀγέννητον καὶ τὸ γεννητόν; εἰ μὲν τὴν ἀγεννησίαν αὐτὴν καὶ τὴν γέννησιν, οὐ ταὐτόν· εἰ δὲ οἷς ὑπάρχει ταῦτα, πῶς οὐ ταὐτόν; ἐπεὶ καὶ τὸ ἄσοφον καὶ τὸ σοφὸν ἀλλήλοις μὲν οὐ ταὐτά, περὶ ταὐτὸν δέ, τὸν ἄνθρωπον· καὶ οὐκ οὐσίας τέμνει, περὶ δὲ τὴν αὐτὴν οὐσίαν τέμνεται. ἢ καὶ τὸ ἀθάνατον, καὶ τὸ ἄκακον, καὶ τὸ ἀναλλοίωτον οὐσία θεοῦ. ἀλλʼ εἰ τοῦτο, πολλαὶ οὐσίαι θεοῦ, καὶ οὐ μία. ἢ σύνθετον ἐκ τούτων τὸ θεῖον. οὐ γὰρ ἀσυνθέτως ταῦτα, εἴπερ οὐσίαι.

Allʼ ou tauton, phēsi, to agennēton kai to gennēton. ei de touto, oude ho huios tǭ patri tauton. hoti men phanerōs ho logos houtos ekballei ton huion tēs theotētos, ē ton patera, ti chrē legein? ei gar to agennēton ousia theou, to gennēton ouk ousia; ei de touto, ouk ekeino. tis anterei logos? helou toinyn tōn asebeiōn hopoteran boulei, ō kene theologe, eiper asebein pantōs espoudakas. epeita pōs ou tauton legeis to agennēton kai to gennēton? ei men to mē ektismenon kai ektismenon, kagō dechomai. ou gar tauton tē physei to anarchon kai to ktizomenon. ei de to gegennēkos kai to gegennēmenon, ouk orthōs legetai. tauton gar einai pasa anankē. hautē gar physis gennēmatos, tauton einai tǭ gegennēkoti kata tēn physin. ē houtō palin; pōs legeis to agennēton kai to gennēton? ei men tēn agennēsian autēn kai tēn gennēsin, ou tauton; ei de hois hyparchei tauta, pōs ou tauton? epei kai to asophon kai to sophon allēlois men ou tauta, peri tauton de, ton anthrōpon; kai ouk ousias temnei, peri de tēn autēn ousian temnetai. ē kai to athanaton, kai to akakon, kai to analloiōton ousia theou. allʼ ei touto, pollai ousiai theou, kai ou mia. ē syntheton ek toutōn to theion. ou gar asynthetōs tauta, eiper ousiai.

“But the unbegotten and the begotten are not the same,” he says. If so, neither is the Son the same as the Father. Need I say that this argument plainly expels either the Son or the Father from the Godhead? For if being unbegotten is the substance of God, being begotten is not that substance; and if the latter is, the former is not. What argument can contradict this? Choose, then, whichever impiety you prefer, you empty theologian, if you are determined to be impious at all costs. Next, in what sense do you say that the unbegotten and the begotten are not the same? If you mean the uncreated and the created, I agree; for what is without beginning and what is created are not the same in nature. But if you mean the begetter and the begotten, it is wrongly said; for they must be the same. For this is the nature of offspring, to be the same in nature as the begetter. Or again: in what sense do you speak of the unbegotten and the begotten? If you mean unbegottenness itself and begottenness, they are not the same; but if you mean those to whom these belong, how are they not the same? For unwisdom and wisdom are not the same as one another, yet they belong to the same subject, a human being; they do not divide substances but are divided within the same substance. Or are immortality, innocence, and unchangeableness also the substance of God? But if so, there are many substances of God, not one; or the divine is compounded of them, for they cannot be there without composition if they are substances.

Notes and citation

Summary: If “unbegotten” were God’s substance, the begotten Son could not be God; but unbegotten and begotten are properties within one and the same nature.

  • The central Eunomian claim is that ἀγέννητος (“unbegotten”) names God’s οὐσία (“substance”); Gregory distinguishes the properties from the subject that has them. The stray “ΙΟ” in the digital text is removed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray line number): οὐσία ΙΟ θεοῦ → οὐσία θεοῦ.

Topics: Trinity, Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 10 (Mason, 87–88; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nazianzus-orat-29/1/#p-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 11

11Mason, 88–90

ταῦτα μὲν οὔ φασι, κοινὰ γὰρ καὶ ἄλλων. ὃ δὲ μόνου θεοῦ καὶ ἴδιον, τοῦτο οὐσία. οὐκ ἂν μὲν συγχωρήσαιεν εἶναι μόνου θεοῦ τὸ ἀγέννητον οἱ καὶ τὴν ὕλην καὶ τὴν ἰδέαν συνεισάγοντες ὡς ἀγέννητα. τὸ γὰρ Μανιχαίων πορρωτέρω ῥίψωμεν σκότος. πλὴν ἔστω μόνου θεοῦ. τί δὲ ὁ Ἀδάμ; οὐ μόνος πλάσμα θεοῦ; καὶ πάνυ, φήσεις. ἆρʼ οὖν καὶ μόνος ἄνθρωπος; οὐδαμῶς. τί δή ποτε; ὅτι μὴ ἀνθρωπότης ἡ πλάσις· καὶ γὰρ τὸ γεννηθὲν ἄνθρωπος. οὕτως οὐδὲ τὸ ἀγέννητον μόνον θεός, εἰ καὶ μόνου πατρός, ἁλλὰ δέξαι καὶ τὸ γεννητὸν εἶναι θεόν. ἐκ θεοῦ γάρ, εἰ καὶ λίαν εἰ φιλαγέννητος. ἔπειτα πῶς οὐσίαν θεοῦ λέγεις, οὐ τὴν τοῦ ὄντος θέσιν, ἁλλὰ τὴν τοῦ μὴ ὄντος ἀναίρεσιν; τὸ γὰρ μὴ ὑπάρχειν αὐτῷ γέννησιν ὁ λόγος δηλοῖ, οὐχ ὃ τὴν φύσιν ἐστὶ παρίστησιν, οὐδʼ ὃ ὑπάρχει τὸ μὴ ἔχον γέννησιν. τίς οὖν οὐσία θεοῦ; τῆς σῆς ἀπονοίας τοῦτο λέγειν, ὃς πολυπραγμονεῖς καὶ τὴν γέννησιν. ἡμῖν δὲ μέγα, κἂν εἴποτε καὶ εἰς ὕστερον τοῦτο μάθοιμεν, λυθέντος ἡμῖν τοῦ ζόφου καὶ τῆς παχύτητος, ὡς ἡ τοῦ ἀψευδοῦς ὑπόσχεσις. τοῦτο μὲν οὖν καὶ νοείσθω καὶ ἐλπιζέσθω τοῖς ἐπὶ τούτῳ καθαιρομένοις. ἡμεῖς δὲ τοσοῦτον εἰπεῖν θαρρήσομεν, ὅτι εἰ καὶ μέγα τῷ πατρὶ τὸ μηδαμόθεν ὡρμῆσθαι, οὐκ ἔλαττον τῷ υἱῷ τὸ ἐκ τοιούτου πατρός. τῆς τε γὰρ τοῦ ἀναιτίου δόξης μετέχοι ἄν, ὅτι ἐκ τοῦ ἀναιτίου, καὶ πρόσεστι τὸ τῆς γεννήσεως, πρᾶγμα τοσοῦτον καὶ οὕτω σεβάσμιον τοῖς μὴ πάντῃ χαμαιπετέσι καὶ ὑλικοῖς τὴν διάνοιαν.

tauta men ou phasi, koina gar kai allōn. ho de monou theou kai idion, touto ousia. ouk an men synchōrēsaien einai monou theou to agennēton hoi kai tēn hylēn kai tēn idean syneisagontes hōs agennēta. to gar Manichaiōn porrōterō rhipsōmen skotos. plēn estō monou theou. ti de ho Adam? ou monos plasma theou? kai pany, phēseis. arʼ oun kai monos anthrōpos? oudamōs. ti dē pote? hoti mē anthrōpotēs hē plasis; kai gar to gennēthen anthrōpos. houtōs oude to agennēton monon theos, ei kai monou patros, halla dexai kai to gennēton einai theon. ek theou gar, ei kai lian ei philagennētos. epeita pōs ousian theou legeis, ou tēn tou ontos thesin, halla tēn tou mē ontos anairesin? to gar mē hyparchein autǭ gennēsin ho logos dēloi, ouch ho tēn physin esti paristēsin, oudʼ ho hyparchei to mē echon gennēsin. tis oun ousia theou? tēs sēs aponoias touto legein, hos polypragmoneis kai tēn gennēsin. hēmin de mega, kan eipote kai eis hysteron touto mathoimen, lythentos hēmin tou zophou kai tēs pachytētos, hōs hē tou apseudous hyposchesis. touto men oun kai noeisthō kai elpizesthō tois epi toutǭ kathairomenois. hēmeis de tosouton eipein tharrēsomen, hoti ei kai mega tǭ patri to mēdamothen hōrmēsthai, ouk elatton tǭ huiǭ to ek toioutou patros. tēs te gar tou anaitiou doxēs metechoi an, hoti ek tou anaitiou, kai prosesti to tēs gennēseōs, pragma tosouton kai houtō sebasmion tois mē pantę̄ chamaipetesi kai hylikois tēn dianoian.

“We do not say these,” they reply, “for they are shared with others; what belongs to God alone and is proper to him, that is his substance.” Those who bring in matter and form as unbegotten too would not agree that being unbegotten belongs to God alone; and let us cast the darkness of the Manichaeans still further off. But let it belong to God alone. What of Adam? Was he not alone the direct handiwork of God? Certainly, you will say. Was he then alone a man? By no means. Why so? Because being moulded is not what humanity is; for what was begotten is also a man. So too it is not only the unbegotten that is God, even if unbegottenness belongs to the Father alone; accept that the begotten is also God, for he is from God, however fond you are of the unbegotten. Then how can you call the substance of God not the affirmation of what is but the denial of what is not? For the word shows that he has no begetting; it does not present what he is in nature, nor what it is that has no begetting. What, then, is the substance of God? It would take your madness to say, you who busy yourself even with his begetting. For us it will be a great thing if we ever learn it, even later, when our darkness and grossness have been dissolved, as the one who cannot lie has promised. Let this be the thought and hope of those who are being purified for it. We will dare to say this much: if it is great for the Father to originate from nowhere, it is no less great for the Son to be from such a Father. For he would share the glory of the uncaused, since he is from the uncaused; and to this is added the glory of his begetting, a thing so great and venerable to those whose minds are not wholly earthbound and material.

Titus 1:2 (echo, low confidence) · 1 Cor 13:12 (echo, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Being unbegotten is a property of the Father, not the divine substance; the Son, begotten of the Father, is equally God.

  • The Eunomian reply is set in quotation marks. “The one who cannot lie has promised”: Titus 1:2 with 1 Cor 13:12. Those who make matter and form unbegotten are Platonists and similar philosophers.

Topics: Trinity, Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 11 (Mason, 88–90; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nazianzus-orat-29/1/#p-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 12

12Mason, 90–92

Ἀλλʼ εἰ ταὐτὸν τῷ πατρί, φασιν, ὁ υἱὸς κατʼ οὐσίαν, ἀγέννητον δὲ ὁ πατήρ, ἔσται τοῦτο καὶ ὁ υἱός. καλῶς, εἴπερ οὐσία θεοῦ τὸ ἀγέννητον, ἵν ᾖ τις καινὴ μίξις, γεννητοαγέννητον. εἰ δὲ περὶ οὐσίαν ἡ διαφορά, τί τοῦτο ὡς ἰσχυρὸν λέγεις; ἢ καὶ σὺ πατὴρ τοῦ πατρός, ἵνα μηδενὶ λείπῃ τοῦ σοῦ πατρός, ἐπειδὴ ταὐτὸν εἶ κατʼ οὐσίαν; ἢ δῆλον ὅτι, τῆς ἰδιότητος ἀκινήτου μενούσης, ζητήσομεν οὐσίαν θεοῦ, ἥ τις ποτέ ἐστιν, εἴπερ ζητήσομεν; ὅτι δὲ οὐ ταὐτὸν ἀγέννητον καὶ θεός, ὧδε ἂν μάθοις. εἰ ταὐτὸν ἦν, ἔδει πάντως, ἐπειδὴ τινῶν θεὸς ὁ θεός, τινῶν εἶναι καὶ τὸ ἀγέννητον· ἢ ἐπεὶ μηδενὸς τὸ ἀγέννητον, μηδὲ τὸν θεὸν εἶναι τινῶν. τὰ γὰρ πάντῃ ταὐτὰ καὶ ὁμοίως ἐκφέρεται. ἀλλὰ μὴν οὐ τινῶν τὸ ἀγέννητον, τίνων γάρ; καὶ τινῶν θεὸς ὁ θεός, πάντων γάρ. πῶς οὖν ἂν εἴη ταὐτὸν θεὸς καὶ ἀγέννητον; καὶ πάλιν, ἐπειδὴ τὸ ἀγέννητον καὶ τὸ γεννητὸν ἀντίκειται ἀλλήλοις, ὡς ἕξις καὶ στέρησις, ἀνάγκη καὶ οὐσίας εἰσαχθῆναι ἀντικειμένας ἀλλήλαις, ὅπερ οὐ δέδοται· ἢ ἐπειδὴ πάλιν αἱ ἕξεις τῶν στερήσεων πρότεραι, καὶ ἀναιρετικαὶ τῶν ἕξεων αἱ στερήσεις, μὴ μόνον πρεσβυτέραν εἶναι τῆς τοῦ πατρὸς οὐσίας τὴν τοῦ υἱοῦ, ἀλλὰ καὶ ἀναιρουμένην ὑπὸ τοῦ πατρός, ὅσον ἐπὶ ταῖς σαῖς ὑποθέσεσι.

Allʼ ei tauton tǭ patri, phasin, ho huios katʼ ousian, agennēton de ho patēr, estai touto kai ho huios. kalōs, eiper ousia theou to agennēton, hin ę̄ tis kainē mixis, gennētoagennēton. ei de peri ousian hē diaphora, ti touto hōs ischyron legeis? ē kai sy patēr tou patros, hina mēdeni leipę̄ tou sou patros, epeidē tauton ei katʼ ousian? ē dēlon hoti, tēs idiotētos akinētou menousēs, zētēsomen ousian theou, hē tis pote estin, eiper zētēsomen? hoti de ou tauton agennēton kai theos, hōde an mathois. ei tauton ēn, edei pantōs, epeidē tinōn theos ho theos, tinōn einai kai to agennēton; ē epei mēdenos to agennēton, mēde ton theon einai tinōn. ta gar pantę̄ tauta kai homoiōs ekpheretai. alla mēn ou tinōn to agennēton, tinōn gar? kai tinōn theos ho theos, pantōn gar. pōs oun an eiē tauton theos kai agennēton? kai palin, epeidē to agennēton kai to gennēton antikeitai allēlois, hōs hexis kai sterēsis, anankē kai ousias eisachthēnai antikeimenas allēlais, hoper ou dedotai; ē epeidē palin hai hexeis tōn sterēseōn proterai, kai anairetikai tōn hexeōn hai sterēseis, mē monon presbyteran einai tēs tou patros ousias tēn tou huiou, alla kai anairoumenēn hypo tou patros, hoson epi tais sais hypothesesi.

“But if the Son is the same as the Father in substance,” they say, “and the Father is unbegotten, the Son will be unbegotten too.” Quite right, if being unbegotten is the substance of God; so that there may be a novel mixture, a begotten-unbegotten. But if the difference lies in what surrounds the substance, why do you put this forward as a strong argument? Or are you the father of your father, so as to lack nothing that your father has, since you are the same in substance? Or is it not plain that, while the distinctive property stays unmoved, we will look for the substance of God, whatever it is, if we look for it at all? That “unbegotten” and “God” are not the same, you may learn like this. If they were the same, then, since God is God of some beings, the unbegotten would have to be unbegotten of some; or, since the unbegotten is of no one, God would have to be God of no one. For things wholly the same are also expressed in the same way. But the unbegotten is not unbegotten of anyone (of whom could it be?), while God is God of some, indeed of all. How then could God and the unbegotten be the same? And again, since unbegotten and begotten are opposed to each other as possession and privation, opposed substances would necessarily be brought in, which is not granted; or else, since possessions are prior to privations and privations abolish possessions, the substance of the Son would be not only older than the substance of the Father but even abolished by the Father, as far as your assumptions go.

Notes and citation

Summary: Being unbegotten and being God are not the same, or the Eunomian logic would make the Son’s substance older than the Father’s.

  • The Eunomian argument is set in quotation marks. “Possession and privation” is Aristotle’s logical pair (Categories 10).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR accent slip): καἲ τὸ γεννητὸν → καὶ τὸ γεννητὸν.

Extrabiblical texts: Aristotle, Cat. 10 (Aristotle (works); allusion)

Topics: Trinity, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 12 (Mason, 90–92; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nazianzus-orat-29/1/#p-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 13

13Mason, 92–93

τίς ἔτι λόγος αὐτοῖς τῶν ἀφύκτων; τάχα ἂν ἐπʼ ἐκεῖνο καταφύγοιεν τελευταῖον· ὡς εἰ μὲν οὐ πέπαυται τοῦ γεννᾷν ὁ θεός, ἀτελὴς ἡ γέννησις, καί ποτε παύσεται. εἰ πέπαυται δέ, πάντως καὶ ἤρξατο. πάλιν οἱ σωματικοὶ τὰ σωματικά. ἐγὼ δὲ εἰ μὲν ἀίδιον αὐτῷ τὸ γεννᾶσθαι, ἢ μή, οὔπω λέγω, ἕως ἂν τὸ Πρὸ πάντων βουνῶν γεννᾶ με ἀκριβῶς ἐπισκέψωμαι. οὐχ ὁρῶ δὲ τίς ἡ ἀνάγκη τοῦ λόγου. εἰ γὰρ ἦρκται κατʼ αὐτοὺς τὸ παυσόμενον, οὐκ ἦρκται πάντως τὸ μὴ παυσόμενον. τί τοίνυν ἀποφανοῦνται περὶ ψυχῆς, ἢ τῆς ἀγγελικῆς φύσεως; εἰ μὲν ἦρκται, καὶ παύσεται· εἰ δὲ οὐ παύσεται, δῆλον ὅτι κατʼ αὐτοὺς οὐδὲ ἦρκται. ἀλλὰ μὴν καὶ ἦρκται, καὶ οὐ παύσεται. οὐκ ἄρα ἦρκται κατʼ αὐτοὺς τὸ παυσόμενον. ὁ μὲν οὖν ἡμέτερος λόγος· ὥσπερ ἵππου, καὶ βοός, καὶ ἀνθρώπου, καὶ ἑκάστου τῶν ὑπὸ τὸ αὐτὸ εἶδος, εἷς λόγος ἐστί, καὶ ὂ μὲν ἂν μετέχῃ τοῦ λόγου, τοῦτο καὶ κυρίως λέγεσθαι, ὃ δʼ ἂν μὴ μετέχῃ, τοῦτο ἢ μὴ λέγεσθαι, ἢ μὴ κυρίως λέγεσθαι, οὕτω δὲ καὶ θεοῦ μίαν οὐσίαν εἶναι, καὶ φύσιν, καὶ κλῆσιν, κἂν ἐπινοίαις τισὶ διαιρουμέναις συνδιαιρῆται καὶ τὰ ὀνόματα. καὶ ὃ μὲν ἂν κυρίως λέγηται, τοῦτο καὶ εἶναι θεόν· ὃ δʼ ἂν ἦ κατὰ φύσιν, τοῦτο καὶ ἀληθῶς ὀνομάζεσθαι· εἴπερ μὴ ἐν ὀνόμασιν, ἀλλʼ ἐν πράγμασίν ἐστιν ἡμῖν ἢ ἀλήθεια. οἱ δέ, ὥσπερ δεδοικότες μὴ πάντα κινεῖν κατὰ τῆς ἀληθείας, θεὸν μὲν εἶναι τὸν υἱὸν ὁμολογοῦσιν, ὅταν βιασθῶσι τῶ λόγῳ καὶ ταῖς μαρτυρίαις, ὁμώνυμον δὲ καὶ μόνης κοινωνοῦντα τῆς κλήσεως.

tis eti logos autois tōn aphyktōn? tacha an epʼ ekeino kataphygoien teleutaion; hōs ei men ou pepautai tou gennąn ho theos, atelēs hē gennēsis, kai pote pausetai. ei pepautai de, pantōs kai ērxato. palin hoi sōmatikoi ta sōmatika. egō de ei men aidion autǭ to gennasthai, ē mē, oupō legō, heōs an to Pro pantōn bounōn genna me akribōs episkepsōmai. ouch horō de tis hē anankē tou logou. ei gar ērktai katʼ autous to pausomenon, ouk ērktai pantōs to mē pausomenon. ti toinyn apophanountai peri psychēs, ē tēs angelikēs physeōs? ei men ērktai, kai pausetai; ei de ou pausetai, dēlon hoti katʼ autous oude ērktai. alla mēn kai ērktai, kai ou pausetai. ouk ara ērktai katʼ autous to pausomenon. ho men oun hēmeteros logos; hōsper hippou, kai boos, kai anthrōpou, kai hekastou tōn hypo to auto eidos, heis logos esti, kai o men an metechę̄ tou logou, touto kai kyriōs legesthai, ho dʼ an mē metechę̄, touto ē mē legesthai, ē mē kyriōs legesthai, houtō de kai theou mian ousian einai, kai physin, kai klēsin, kan epinoiais tisi diairoumenais syndiairētai kai ta onomata. kai ho men an kyriōs legētai, touto kai einai theon; ho dʼ an ē kata physin, touto kai alēthōs onomazesthai; eiper mē en onomasin, allʼ en pragmasin estin hēmin ē alētheia. hoi de, hōsper dedoikotes mē panta kinein kata tēs alētheias, theon men einai ton huion homologousin, hotan biasthōsi tō logǭ kai tais martyriais, homōnymon de kai monēs koinōnounta tēs klēseōs.

What unanswerable argument have they left? Perhaps they may take refuge in this last one: “If God has not ceased begetting, the begetting is incomplete and will cease one day; but if he has ceased, he certainly also began.” Once again the bodily-minded speak of bodily things. For my part, I do not yet say whether his being begotten is eternal or not, until I have examined carefully the words, “Before all the hills he begets me.” But I do not see what compels their argument. For if, as they say, what will cease has begun, then what will not cease has certainly not begun. What then will they declare about the soul, or the angelic nature? If it began, it will also cease; if it will not cease, then clearly, on their reasoning, it did not begin either. But in fact it began and will not cease. So it is not true, as they say, that what will cease has begun. Our own account is this. Just as a horse, an ox, a man, and each member of the same species has one definition, and what shares in the definition is properly called by the name, while what does not share in it is either not called so or not called so properly; so too God has one substance, nature, and name, even if the names are divided along with certain distinctions of thought. What is properly called God is God; and what is God by nature is truly named so, if indeed truth for us lies in realities and not in names. But they, as if afraid of leaving no stone unturned against the truth, confess that the Son is God when they are forced by argument and testimony, but only in an equivocal sense, sharing the name alone.

Prov 8:25 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Gregory refutes the argument that the Son’s begetting must have begun or be unfinished, and insists that God has one substance and name, properly shared by the Son.

  • Prov 8:25 (LXX, present tense “begets”). The Eunomian arguments are set in quotation marks.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (hyphenated line break): κοινω- νοῦντα → κοινωνοῦντα.

Topics: Trinity, Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 13 (Mason, 92–93; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nazianzus-orat-29/1/#p-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 14

14Mason, 93–95

Ὅταν δὲ ἀνθυποφέρωμεν αὐτοῖς· τί οὖν; οὐ κυρίως θεὸς ὁ υἱός, ὥσπερ οὐδὲ ζῷον τὸ γεγραμμένον; πῶς οὖν θεός, εἰ μὴ κυρίως θεός; τί γὰρ κωλύει, φασί, καὶ ὁμώνυμα ταῦτα εἶναι, καὶ κυρίως ἀμφότερα λέγεσθαι; καὶ προοίσουσιν ἡμῖν τὸν κύνα, τὸν χερσαῖον, καὶ τὸν θαλάττιον, ὁμώνυμά τε ὄντα, καὶ κυρίως λεγόμενα, — ἔστι γάρ τι καὶ τοιοῦτον εἶδος ἐν τοῖς ὁμωνύμοις, — καὶ εἴτε τι ἄλλο τῇ αὐτῇ προσχρῆται προσηγορίᾳ, καὶ μετέχει ταύτης ἐπʼ ἴσης, τῇ φύσει διεστηκός. ἀλλʼ ἐκεῖ μέν, ὦ βέλτιστε, δύο φύσεις τιθεὶς ὑπὸ τὴν αὐτὴν προσηγορίαν, οὐδὲν ἀμείνω τὴν ἑτέραν τῆς ἑτέρας εἰσάγεις, οὐδὲ τὴν μὲν πρότερον, τὴν δὲ ὕστερον, οὐδὲ τὴν μὲν μᾶλλον, τὴν δὲ ἧττον οὖσαν τοῦθʼ ὅπερ λέγεται. οὐδὲ γάρ τι συνέζευκται τὸ ταύτην παρέχον αὐταῖς τὴν ἀνάγκην. οὐ γὰρ ὁ μὲν μᾶλλον κύων, ὁ δὲ ἧττον τοῦ ἑτέρου κυνός, οἷον ὁ θαλάττιος τοῦ χερσαίου, ἢ ὁ χερσαῖος ἔμπαλιν τοῦ θαλαττίου· διὰ τί γάρ, ἢ κατὰ τίνα λόγον; ἀλλʼ ἐν ὁμοτίμοις πράγμασι καὶ διαφόροις ἡ κοινωνία τῆς κλήσεως. ἐνταῦθα δὲ τῷ θεῷ παραζευγνὺς τὸ σεβάσμιον, καὶ τὸ ὑπὲρ πᾶσαν οὐσίαν εἶναι καὶ φύσιν, ὂ μόνου θεοῦ καὶ οἱονεὶ φύσις θεότητος, εἶτα τῷ πατρὶ μὲν τοῦτο διδούς, τὸν υἱὸν δὲ ἀποστερῶν καὶ ὑποτιθείς, καὶ τὰ δεύτερα νέμων αὐτῷ τῆς τιμῆς καὶ τῆς προσκυνήσεως, κἂν ταῖς συλλαβαῖς χαρίζῃ τὸ ὅμοιον, τῷ πράγματι τὴν θεότητα περικόπτεις, καὶ μεταβαίνεις κακούργως ἀπὸ τῆς τὸ ἴσον ἐχούσης ὁμωνυμίας ἐπὶ τὴν τὰ μὴ ἴσα συνδέουσαν· ὥστε ὁ γραπτός σοι καὶ ὁ ζῶν ἄνθρωπος μᾶλλον ἢ οἱ τοῦ ὑποδείγματος κύνες τῇ θεότητι πλησιάζουσιν. ἢ δὸς ἀμφοτέροις, ὥσπερ τὴν κοινωνίαν τῆς κλήσεως, οὕτω δὲ καὶ τὴν ὁμοτιμίαν τῶν φύσεων, εἰ καὶ διαφόρους ταύτας εἰσάγεις· καὶ καταλέλυκάς σου τοὺς κύνας, οὓς ἐξηῦρες κατὰ τῆς ἀνισότητος. τί γὰρ ὄφελος τῆς ὁμωνυμίας, εἰ τὸ ἰσότιμον ἔχοιεν οἱ παρά σου διαιρούμενοι; οὐ γὰρ ἵνα ἰσότιμα δείξῃς, ἁλλʼ ἵνα ἀνισότιμα, πρὸς τὴν ὁμωνυμίαν καὶ τοὺς κύνας κατέφυγες. πῶς ἄν τις ἐλεγχθείη μᾶλλον καὶ ἑαυτῷ μαχόμενος καὶ θεότητι;

Hotan de anthypopherōmen autois; ti oun? ou kyriōs theos ho huios, hōsper oude zǭon to gegrammenon? pōs oun theos, ei mē kyriōs theos? ti gar kōlyei, phasi, kai homōnyma tauta einai, kai kyriōs amphotera legesthai? kai prooisousin hēmin ton kyna, ton chersaion, kai ton thalattion, homōnyma te onta, kai kyriōs legomena, — esti gar ti kai toiouton eidos en tois homōnymois, — kai eite ti allo tę̄ autę̄ proschrētai prosēgorią, kai metechei tautēs epʼ isēs, tę̄ physei diestēkos. allʼ ekei men, ō beltiste, dyo physeis titheis hypo tēn autēn prosēgorian, ouden ameinō tēn heteran tēs heteras eisageis, oude tēn men proteron, tēn de hysteron, oude tēn men mallon, tēn de hētton ousan touthʼ hoper legetai. oude gar ti synezeuktai to tautēn parechon autais tēn anankēn. ou gar ho men mallon kyōn, ho de hētton tou heterou kynos, hoion ho thalattios tou chersaiou, ē ho chersaios empalin tou thalattiou; dia ti gar, ē kata tina logon? allʼ en homotimois pragmasi kai diaphorois hē koinōnia tēs klēseōs. entautha de tǭ theǭ parazeugnys to sebasmion, kai to hyper pasan ousian einai kai physin, o monou theou kai hoionei physis theotētos, eita tǭ patri men touto didous, ton huion de aposterōn kai hypotitheis, kai ta deutera nemōn autǭ tēs timēs kai tēs proskynēseōs, kan tais syllabais charizę̄ to homoion, tǭ pragmati tēn theotēta perikopteis, kai metabaineis kakourgōs apo tēs to ison echousēs homōnymias epi tēn ta mē isa syndeousan; hōste ho graptos soi kai ho zōn anthrōpos mallon ē hoi tou hypodeigmatos kynes tę̄ theotēti plēsiazousin. ē dos amphoterois, hōsper tēn koinōnian tēs klēseōs, houtō de kai tēn homotimian tōn physeōn, ei kai diaphorous tautas eisageis; kai katalelykas sou tous kynas, hous exēures kata tēs anisotētos. ti gar ophelos tēs homōnymias, ei to isotimon echoien hoi para sou diairoumenoi? ou gar hina isotima deixę̄s, hallʼ hina anisotima, pros tēn homōnymian kai tous kynas katephyges. pōs an tis elenchtheiē mallon kai heautǭ machomenos kai theotēti?

When we object to them: “What then? Is the Son not properly God, as a painted animal is not properly an animal? How then is he God, if he is not properly God?” “What prevents these,” they say, “from being equivocal and yet both properly so called?” And they will bring forward the dog, the land dog and the sea dog, which are equivocal and properly so called (for there is such a class among equivocal terms), and anything else that uses the same name and shares it equally while differing in nature. But there, my good man, in putting two natures under the same name, you do not make one better than the other, nor one prior and the other later, nor one more and the other less what it is called; for nothing is attached to them that imposes such a necessity. One dog is not more a dog and the other less, the sea dog than the land dog or the other way round; why should it be, or on what principle? The sharing of the name is between things of equal honour but different. Here, however, you join to God the attribute of being worshipped and of being above every substance and nature, which belongs to God alone and is, as it were, the nature of the Godhead; then you give this to the Father, but deprive the Son of it and subordinate him, assigning him second place in honour and worship. Even if you grant him likeness in syllables, in reality you cut off his Godhead, and you pass dishonestly from an equivocation that implies equality to one that links unequal things; so that on your view the painted and the living man come nearer to the Godhead than the dogs of your example. Or else grant both the sharing of the name and equality of honour of their natures, even if you introduce them as different; and you have done away with your dogs, which you invented to prove inequality. For what use is the equivocation if those you divide have equal honour? It was not to show equal honour but unequal that you took refuge in equivocation and the dogs. How could anyone be more clearly convicted of fighting both himself and the Godhead?

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Summary: The Eunomian appeal to equivocal names, like the land dog and sea dog, fails because it is meant to make the Son unequal to the Father.

  • The “sea dog” is the dogfish or shark, a stock example of equivocation.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (hyphenated line break): θαλάτ- τιον → θαλάττιον; ἀμ- φοτέροις → ἀμφοτέροις.

Topics: Trinity, Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 14 (Mason, 93–95; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nazianzus-orat-29/1/#p-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 15

15Mason, 95–97

Ἐὰν δὲ λεγόντων ἡμῶν, ὅτι τῷ αἰτίῳ μείζων ὁ πατὴρ τοῦ υἱοῦ, προσλαβόντες τὴν Τὰ δὲ αἴτιον φύσει πρότασιν, ἔπειτα τὸ Μεῖζον τῆ φύσει συνάγωσιν· οὐκ οἶδα πότερον ἑαυτοὺς παραλογίζονται, ἢ τοὺς πρὸς οὓς ὁ λόγος. οὐ γὰρ ἁπλῶς ὅσα κατά τινος λέγεται, ταῦτα καὶ κατὰ τοῦ ὑποκειμένου τούτῳ ῥηθήσεται· ἀλλὰ δῆλον κατὰ τίνος, καὶ τίνα. ἐπεὶ τί κωλύει κἀμὲ ταύτην πρότασιν ποιησάμενον τήν, ὅτι ὁ πατὴρ μείζων τῇ φύσει, ἔπειτα προσλαβόντα τὸ Φύσει δὲ οὐ πάντως μείζων οὐδὲ πατήρ, ἐντεῦθεν συναγαγεῖν τὸ Μεῖζον οὐ πάντως μεῖζον· ἤ, Ὁ πατὴρ οὐ πάντως πατήρ. εἰ βούλει δὲ οὕτως· ὁ θεός οὐσία· ἡ οὐσία δέ, οὐ πάντως θεός· τὸ ἑξῆς αὐτὸς συνάγαγε· ὁ θεός, οὐ πάντως θεός. ἀλλʼ οἶμαι, παρὰ τὸ πῇ καὶ ἁπλῶς ὁ παραλογισμὸς οὗτος, ὡς τοῖς περὶ ταῦτα τεχνολογεῖν σύνηθες. ἡμῶν γὰρ τὸ μεῖζον τῇ τοῦ αἰτίου φύσει διδόντων, αὐτοὶ τὸ τῇ φύσει μεῖζον ἐπάγουσιν· ὥσπερ ἂν εἰ καὶ λεγόντων ἡμῶν, ὅτι ὁ δεῖνα νεκρὸς ἄνθρωπος, ἁπλῶς ἐπῆγον αὐτοὶ τὸν ἄνθρωπον.

Ean de legontōn hēmōn, hoti tǭ aitiǭ meizōn ho patēr tou huiou, proslabontes tēn Ta de aition physei protasin, epeita to Meizon tē physei synagōsin; ouk oida poteron heautous paralogizontai, ē tous pros hous ho logos. ou gar haplōs hosa kata tinos legetai, tauta kai kata tou hypokeimenou toutǭ rhēthēsetai; alla dēlon kata tinos, kai tina. epei ti kōlyei kame tautēn protasin poiēsamenon tēn, hoti ho patēr meizōn tę̄ physei, epeita proslabonta to Physei de ou pantōs meizōn oude patēr, enteuthen synagagein to Meizon ou pantōs meizon; ē, Ho patēr ou pantōs patēr. ei boulei de houtōs; ho theos ousia; hē ousia de, ou pantōs theos; to hexēs autos synagage; ho theos, ou pantōs theos. allʼ oimai, para to pę̄ kai haplōs ho paralogismos houtos, hōs tois peri tauta technologein synēthes. hēmōn gar to meizon tę̄ tou aitiou physei didontōn, autoi to tę̄ physei meizon epagousin; hōsper an ei kai legontōn hēmōn, hoti ho deina nekros anthrōpos, haplōs epēgon autoi ton anthrōpon.

If, when we say that the Father is greater than the Son as cause, they add the premise “but the cause is by nature,” and then conclude “greater by nature,” I do not know whether they deceive themselves or those they are addressing. For not everything that is said of something will also be said of its subject; it must be clear of what and in what sense. Otherwise, what prevents me too from taking the premise “the Father is greater by nature,” then adding “but what is by nature is not necessarily greater, nor a father,” and from this concluding “the greater is not necessarily greater,” or “the Father is not necessarily a father”? Or, if you like, like this: “God is substance; but substance is not necessarily God”; draw the conclusion yourself: “God is not necessarily God.” I think this fallacy comes from confusing a qualified with an unqualified statement, as is usual among those who practise these techniques. For while we assign “greater” to the nature of the cause, they infer “greater in nature”; just as if, when we said that so-and-so is a dead man, they simply inferred “a man.”

John 14:28 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: The Father is greater as the Son’s cause, but the Eunomians fallaciously conclude that he is greater in nature.

  • John 14:28 lies behind “greater.” The fallacy of confusing a qualified with an unqualified statement is Aristotle’s (Sophistical Refutations 5).

Extrabiblical texts: Aristotle, Soph. elench. 5 (Aristotle (works); allusion)

Topics: Trinity, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 15 (Mason, 95–97; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nazianzus-orat-29/1/#p-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 16

16Mason, 97–99

Ἐκεῖνο δὲ πῶς παραδράμωμεν, οὐδενὸς ἧττον τῶν εἰρημένων ὂν ἀξιάγαστον; ‘Ο πατήρ, φησιν, οὐσίας, ἢ ἐνεργείας ὄνομα; ὡς ἀμφοτέρωθεν ἡμᾶς δήσοντες, — εἰ μὲν οὐσίας φήσομεν, συνθησομένους ἑτεροούσιον εἶναι τὸν υἱόν, ἐπειδὴ μία μὲν οὐσία θεοῦ, ταύτην δέ, ὡς οὗτοι, προκατείληφεν ὁ πατήρ· εἰ δὲ ἐνεργείας, ποίημα σαφῶς ὁμολογήσοντας, ἁλλʼ οὐ γέννημα. οὗ γὰρ ὁ ἐνεργῶν, ἐκεῖ πάντως καὶ τὸ ἐνεργούμενον. καὶ πῶς τῷ πεποιηκότι ταὐτὸν τὸ πεποιημένον, θαυμάζειν φήσουσι. σφόδρα ἂν ᾐδέσθην ὑμῶν καὶ αὐτὸς τὴν διαίρεσιν, εἰ τῶν δύο τὸ ἕτερον δέξασθαι ἢν ἀναγκαῖον, ἁλλὰ μὴ τὰ δύο διαφυγόντα τρίτον εἰπεῖν ἀληθέστερον· ὅτι οὔτε οὐσίας ὄνομα ὁ πατήρ, ὦ σοφώτατοι, οὔτε ἐνεργείας, σχέσεως δὲ καὶ τοῦ πῶς ἔχει πρὸς τὸν υἱὸν ὁ πατήρ, ἢ ὁ υἱὸς πρὸς τὸν πατέρα. ὡς γὰρ παρʼ ἡμῖν αἱ κλήσεις αὗται τὸ γνήσιον καὶ οἰκεῖον γνωρίζουσιν, οὕτω κἀκεῖ τὴν τοῦ γεγεννημένου πρὸς τὸ γεγεννηκὸς ὁμοφυίαν σημαίνουσιν. ἔστω δέ, ὑμῶν χάριν, καὶ οὐσία τις ὁ πατήρ· συνεισάξει τὸν υἱόν, οὐκ ἀλλοτριώσει, κατὰ τὰς κοινὰς ἐννοίας καὶ τὴν τῶν κλήσεων τούτων δύναμιν. ἔστω καὶ ἐνεργείας, εἰ τοῦτο δοκεῖ· οὐδὲ οὕτως ἡμᾶς αἱρήσετε. αὐτὸ δὲ τοῦτο ἐνηργηκὼς ἂν εἴη τὸ ὁμοούσιον, εἰ καὶ ἄτοπος ἄλλως ἡ τῆς περὶ τοῦτο ἐνεργείας ὑπόληψις. ὁρᾶς ὅπως ὑμῶν, καὶ κακομαχεῖν ἐθελόντων, τὰς στροφὰς διαφεύγομεν; ἐπεὶ δέ σου τὸ ἐν τοῖς λογισμοῖς καὶ ταῖς στροφαῖς ἄμαχον ἔγνωμεν, ἴδωμέν σου καὶ τὴν ἐκ τῶν θείων λογίων ἰσχύν, ἃν ἄρα δέξῃ κἀντεῦθεν πείθειν ἡμᾶς.

Ekeino de pōs paradramōmen, oudenos hētton tōn eirēmenōn on axiagaston? ‘O patēr, phēsin, ousias, ē energeias onoma? hōs amphoterōthen hēmas dēsontes, — ei men ousias phēsomen, synthēsomenous heteroousion einai ton huion, epeidē mia men ousia theou, tautēn de, hōs houtoi, prokateilēphen ho patēr; ei de energeias, poiēma saphōs homologēsontas, hallʼ ou gennēma. hou gar ho energōn, ekei pantōs kai to energoumenon. kai pōs tǭ pepoiēkoti tauton to pepoiēmenon, thaumazein phēsousi. sphodra an ę̄desthēn hymōn kai autos tēn diairesin, ei tōn dyo to heteron dexasthai ēn anankaion, halla mē ta dyo diaphygonta triton eipein alēthesteron; hoti oute ousias onoma ho patēr, ō sophōtatoi, oute energeias, scheseōs de kai tou pōs echei pros ton huion ho patēr, ē ho huios pros ton patera. hōs gar parʼ hēmin hai klēseis hautai to gnēsion kai oikeion gnōrizousin, houtō kakei tēn tou gegennēmenou pros to gegennēkos homophuian sēmainousin. estō de, hymōn charin, kai ousia tis ho patēr; syneisaxei ton huion, ouk allotriōsei, kata tas koinas ennoias kai tēn tōn klēseōn toutōn dynamin. estō kai energeias, ei touto dokei; oude houtōs hēmas hairēsete. auto de touto enērgēkōs an eiē to homoousion, ei kai atopos allōs hē tēs peri touto energeias hypolēpsis. horas hopōs hymōn, kai kakomachein ethelontōn, tas strophas diapheugomen? epei de sou to en tois logismois kai tais strophais amachon egnōmen, idōmen sou kai tēn ek tōn theiōn logiōn ischyn, han ara dexę̄ kanteuthen peithein hēmas.

And how can we pass over this one, which is no less remarkable than those already mentioned? “Is ‘Father,’” he says, “the name of a substance or of an activity?” They mean to bind us on both sides: if we say it is the name of a substance, we will agree that the Son is of another substance, since God has one substance and, as they say, the Father has occupied it already; if of an activity, we will clearly confess that the Son is a thing made, not begotten. For where there is one who acts, there is certainly also what is acted upon; and they will say they wonder how what is made can be the same as its maker. I too would be very much in awe of your division if one of the two had to be accepted, and it were not possible to escape both and give a truer third answer: that “Father,” most wise sirs, is the name neither of a substance nor of an activity, but of a relation, of how the Father stands to the Son or the Son to the Father. For as with us these names make known genuine kinship, so there too they signify the sameness of nature of the begotten with the begetter. But let the Father be a substance, for your sake: he will bring the Son with him, not estrange him, according to common notions and the force of these names. Let it be the name of an activity, if you like: even so you will not catch us. What that activity produced would be the very sameness of substance, even if the notion of an activity in this matter is otherwise absurd. Do you see how we escape your twists, even when you want to fight unfairly? But since we have learned how invincible you are in reasonings and twists, let us see your strength from the divine oracles, in case you choose to persuade us from there too.

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Summary: “Father” names neither a substance nor an activity but a relation, which implies that the Son shares the Father’s nature.

  • The Eunomian dilemma is in quotation marks. “Sameness of substance” renders τὸ ὁμοούσιον; ὁμοούσιος is rendered “consubstantial” or “of one substance.” The digital text’s “προκατείληφες” is read as προκατείληφεν.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR letter slip; hyphenated line break): ὁμολογή- σοντας → ὁμολογήσοντας; προκατείληφες → προκατείληφεν.

Topics: Trinity, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 16 (Mason, 97–99; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nazianzus-orat-29/1/#p-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 17

17Mason, 99–100

Ἡμεῖς μὲν γὰρ ἐκ μεγάλων καὶ ὑψηλῶν τῶν τοῦ υἱοῦ τὴν θεότητα καὶ κατειλήφαμεν, καὶ κηρύσσομεν. τίνων τούτων; τῆς θεός, τῆς λόγος, ὁ ἐν ἀρχῇ, ὁ μετὰ τῆς ἀρχῆς, ἡ ἀρχή· Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος· καί, Μετά σου ἡ ἀρχή· καί, ‘Ο καλῶν αὐτὴν ἀπὸ γενεῶν ἀρχήν. ἐπειδὴ υἱὸς μονογενής· ‘Ο μονογενὴς υἱός, ὁ ὢν εἰς τὸν κόλπον τοῦ πατρός, ἐκεῖνος ἐξηγήσατο. ὁδός, ἁλήθεια, ζωή, φῶς· Ἐγώ εἰμι ἡ ὁδός, καὶ ἡ ἁλήθεια, καὶ ἡ ζωή· καί, Ἐγώ εἰμι τὸ φῶς τοῦ κόσμου. σοφία, δύναμις· Χριστὸς θεοῦ δύναμις, καὶ θεοῦ σοφία. ἀπαύγασμα, χαρακτήρ, εἰκών, σφραγίς· Ὅς ὣν ἀπαύγασμα τῆς δόξης καὶ χαρακτὴρ τῆς ὑποστάσεως αὐτοῦ· καί, Εἰκὼν τῆς ἀγαθότητος· καί, τοῦτον γὰρ ὁ πατὴρ ἐσφράγισεν ὁ θεός. κύριος, βασιλεύς, ὁ ὤν, ὁ παντοκράτωρ· Ἔβρεξε κύριος πῦρ παρὰ κυρίου· καί, Ῥάβδος εὐθύτητος ἡ ῥάβδος τῆς βασιλείας σου· καί, ‘O ὤν, καὶ ὁ ἢν, καὶ ὁ ἐρχόμενος, καὶ ὁ παντοκράτωρ. σαφῶς περὶ τοῦ υἱοῦ λεγόμενα, καὶ ὅσα τῆς αὐτῆς τούτοις ἐστὶ δυνάμεως ὧν οὐδὲν ἐπίκτητον, οὐδὲ ὕστερον τῷ υἱῷ προσγενόμενον, ἢ τῷ πνεύματι, ὥσπερ οὐδὲ αὐτῷ τῷ πατρί. οὐ γὰρ ἐκ προσθήκης τὸ τέλειον. οὐ γὰρ ἦν ὅτε ἄλογος ἦν, οὐδὲ ἦν ὅτε οὐ πατήρ, οὐδὲ ἦν ὅτε οὐκ ἀληθής, ἢ ἄσοφος, ἢ ἀδύνατος, ἢ ζωῆς ἐνδεής, ἢ λαμπρότητος, ἢ ἀγαθότητος.

Hēmeis men gar ek megalōn kai hypsēlōn tōn tou huiou tēn theotēta kai kateilēphamen, kai kēryssomen. tinōn toutōn? tēs theos, tēs logos, ho en archę̄, ho meta tēs archēs, hē archē; En archę̄ ēn ho logos, kai ho logos ēn pros ton theon, kai theos ēn ho logos; kai, Meta sou hē archē; kai, ‘O kalōn autēn apo geneōn archēn. epeidē huios monogenēs; ‘O monogenēs huios, ho ōn eis ton kolpon tou patros, ekeinos exēgēsato. hodos, halētheia, zōē, phōs; Egō eimi hē hodos, kai hē halētheia, kai hē zōē; kai, Egō eimi to phōs tou kosmou. sophia, dynamis; Christos theou dynamis, kai theou sophia. apaugasma, charaktēr, eikōn, sphragis; Hos hōn apaugasma tēs doxēs kai charaktēr tēs hypostaseōs autou; kai, Eikōn tēs agathotētos; kai, touton gar ho patēr esphragisen ho theos. kyrios, basileus, ho ōn, ho pantokratōr; Ebrexe kyrios pyr para kyriou; kai, Rhabdos euthytētos hē rhabdos tēs basileias sou; kai, ‘O ōn, kai ho ēn, kai ho erchomenos, kai ho pantokratōr. saphōs peri tou huiou legomena, kai hosa tēs autēs toutois esti dynameōs hōn ouden epiktēton, oude hysteron tǭ huiǭ prosgenomenon, ē tǭ pneumati, hōsper oude autǭ tǭ patri. ou gar ek prosthēkēs to teleion. ou gar ēn hote alogos ēn, oude ēn hote ou patēr, oude ēn hote ouk alēthēs, ē asophos, ē adynatos, ē zōēs endeēs, ē lamprotētos, ē agathotētos.

For our part, we have grasped and proclaim the Godhead of the Son from great and lofty sayings. Which ones? These: “God,” “Word,” “the one in the beginning,” “the one with the beginning,” “the beginning.” “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God”; and “With you is the beginning”; and “He who calls it the beginning from the generations.” Then, that he is the only-begotten Son: “The only-begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has made him known.” “Way,” “truth,” “life,” “light”: “I am the way and the truth and the life,” and “I am the light of the world.” “Wisdom,” “power”: “Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.” “Radiance,” “imprint,” “image,” “seal”: “Who is the radiance of his glory and the imprint of his hypostasis,” and “image of his goodness,” and “For him has God the Father sealed.” “Lord,” “King,” “He who is,” “the Almighty”: “The Lord rained fire from the Lord,” and “A sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of your kingdom,” and “Who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” These are clearly said of the Son, and all others of the same force; none of them acquired, or added to the Son or the Spirit later, any more than to the Father himself. For perfection does not come by addition. There was never a time when he was without the Word, nor a time when he was not Father, nor a time when he was not true, or without wisdom, or without power, or lacking life or splendour or goodness.

John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 110:3 (109:3 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 41:4 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:18 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:6 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:12 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 1:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · John 6:27 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 19:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 45:6 (44:7 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Rev 1:8 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Gregory lists the lofty biblical titles of the Son, God, Word, Wisdom, Power, Image, Lord, which show his eternal Godhead.

  • John 1:1; Ps 110:3 (LXX 109:3); Isa 41:4 (LXX); John 1:18; John 14:6; John 8:12; 1 Cor 1:24; Heb 1:3 (ὑπόστασις, here left as “hypostasis”: in Gregory’s own usage the word means a distinct “person” of the Trinity, as does πρόσωπον); Wis 7:26; John 6:27; Gen 19:24; Ps 45:6 (LXX 44:7); Rev 1:8. The digital text’s garbled “κηρύσφωνῶν σομεν” is read as κηρύσσομεν.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (garbled word with stray fragment; hyphenated line break): κηρύσφωνῶν σομεν → κηρύσσομεν; προσ- γενόμενον → προσγενόμενον.

Extrabiblical texts: Wis 7:26 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)

Topics: Christology, Trinity, Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nazianzus, Or. Theol. 17 (Mason, 99–100; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nazianzus-orat-29/1/#p-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Mason's Greek text (1899); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 7 translation (Browne and Swallow, 1894).