Dialogue with Trypho 78.8 · Sophia Scriptura

Greek text · Archambault 2:22

Καὶ τοῦτο ἐπεπροφήτευτο μέλλειν γίνεσθαι διὰ Ἱερεμίου, εἰπόντος διʼ αὐτοῦ τοῦ ἁγίου πνεύματος οὕτως· Φωνὴ ἐν Ῥαμᾶ ἠκούσθη, κλαυθμὸς καὶ ὀδυρμὸς πολύς· Ῥαχὴλ κλαίουσα τὰ τέκνα αὐτῆς, καὶ οὐκ ἤθελε παρακληθῆναι, ὅτι οὐκ εἰσί. Διὰ οὖν τὴν φωνήν, ἣ ἔμελλεν ἀκούεσθαι ἀπὸ Ῥαμᾶ, τουτέστιν ἀπὸ τῆς Ἀρραβίας (ἔστι γὰρ καὶ μέχρι τοῦ νῦν τόπος καλούμενος ἐν Ἀρραβίᾳ Ῥαμᾶ), κλαυθμὸς ἔμελλεν τὸν τόπον καταλαμβάνειν, ὅπου Ῥαχήλ, ἡ γυνὴ Ἰακώβ, τοῦ ἐπικληθέντος Ἰσραήλ, τοῦ ἁγίου πατριάρχου, τέθαπται, τουτέστι τὴν Βηθλεέμ, κλαιουσῶν τῶν γυναικῶν τὰ τέκνα τὰ ἴδια τὰ ἀνῃρημένα καὶ μὴ παράκλησιν ἐχουσῶν ἐπὶ τῷ συμβεβηκότι αὐταῖς.

English · Claude translation

“And this had been prophesied to happen through Jeremiah, the Holy Spirit speaking through him thus: ‘A voice was heard in Ramah, weeping and much lamentation; Rachel weeping for her children, and she would not be comforted, because they are not.’ Because of the voice, then, that was to be heard from Ramah, that is, from Arabia (for there is still to this day a place called Ramah in Arabia), weeping was to seize the place where Rachel, the wife of Jacob, called Israel, the holy patriarch, is buried, that is, Bethlehem, as the women wept for their own children who had been killed and had no comfort for what had befallen them.

About this passage

Source

Archambault 2:22 · Georges Archambault, ed., Justin: Dialogue avec Tryphon, 2 vols., Textes et documents pour l'étude historique du christianisme 8, 11 (Paris: Picard, 1909) · Greek text: G. Archambault, Justin: Dialogue avec Tryphon (Paris, 1909), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0

Text

As printed in Archambault. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.

Translation

Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-26 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Archambault (1909); made independently of existing English translations.

Compare

Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 1 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)

Scripture

Jer 31:15 (38:15 LXX) · quotation, high confidence
Matt 2:18 · echo, high confidence
Gen 35:19 · allusion, medium confidence

Notes

Notes on the original text

Digital text corrected (the editor's reference (Matt 2:18; Jer 31:15), printed in the text without brackets, removed): οὐκ εἰσί cf. MT., I, 8; 12-14; et JÉR., XXXI, 15. Διὰ → οὐκ εἰσί. Διὰ.

Cite this passage

Justin, Dial. 78.8 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/justin-dialogue/78/8/).

Plain text

Justin, Dial. 78.8 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/justin-dialogue/78/8/).