Dialogue with Trypho 8.3

Summary: Trypho says Justin was better off as a Platonist than trusting in a man.

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Greek text · Archambault 1:42

Ταῦτά μου, φίλτατε, εἰπόντος οἱ μετὰ τοῦ Τρύφωνος ἀνεγέλασαν, αὐτὸς δὲ ὑπομειδιάσας· Τὰ μὲν ἄλλα σου, φησίν, ἀποδέχομαι καὶ ἄγαμαι τῆς περὶ τὸ θεῖον ὁρμῆς, ἄμεινον δὲ ἦν φιλοσοφεῖν ἔτι σε τὴν Πλάτωνος ἢ ἄλλου του φιλοσοφίαν, ἀσκοῦντα καρτερίαν καὶ ἐγκράτειαν καὶ σωφροσύνην, ἢ λόγοις ἐξαπατηθῆναι ψευδέσι καὶ ἀνθρώποις ἀκολουθῆσαι οὐδενὸς ἀξίοις. Μένοντι γάρ σοι ἐν ἐκείνῳ τῷ τῆς φιλοσοφίας τρόπῳ καὶ ζῶντι ἀμέμπτως ἐλπὶς ὑπελείπετο ἀμείνονος μοίρας· καταλιπόντι δὲ τὸν θεὸν καὶ εἰς ἄνθρωπον ἐλπίσαντι ποία ἔτι περιλείπεται σωτηρία;

English · Claude translation

When I, my friend, had said this, those with Trypho laughed, but he smiled and said, “I accept the rest of what you say, and I admire your zeal for the divine; but it would have been better for you to go on practicing the philosophy of Plato or of someone else, cultivating endurance and self-control and moderation, than to be deceived by false words and follow men of no account. For while you remained in that way of philosophy and lived blamelessly, a hope of a better lot remained; but when you have forsaken God and put your hope in a man, what salvation is still left for you?

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Source
Archambault 1:42 · Georges Archambault, ed., Justin: Dialogue avec Tryphon, 2 vols., Textes et documents pour l'étude historique du christianisme 8, 11 (Paris: Picard, 1909) · Greek text: G. Archambault, Justin: Dialogue avec Tryphon (Paris, 1909), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in Archambault. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-26 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Archambault (1909); made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 1 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)

Notes

Translation notes

  • “My friend” (φίλτατε): Justin addresses the person to whom the Dialogue is dedicated, Marcus Pompeius (see ch. 141).

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Justin, Dial. 8.3 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/justin-dialogue/8/3/).

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Justin, Dial. 8.3 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/justin-dialogue/8/3/).

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