Against Celsus 3.57
Summary: Christians do not draw people away from good teachers; they openly promise blessedness to those who live by God's word as in his sight.
Greek text · Koetschau 1:252
Τίνας δὲ διδασκάλους λέγομεν ληρεῖν καὶ ἀποπλήκτους εἶναι, ὑπὲρ ὧν ὁ Κέλσος ἵσταται ὡς διδασκόντων τὰ κρείττονα; εἰ μὴ ἄρα καλοὺς οἴεται διδασκάλους γυναίων καὶ μὴ ληροῦντας τοὺς ἐπὶ δεισιδαιμονίαν καὶ τὰς ἀκολάστους θέας προκαλουμένους, ἔτι δὲ καὶ μὴ ἀποπλήκτους εἶναι τοὺς ἄγοντας καὶ φέροντας τοὺς νέους ἐπὶ πάντα, ὅσα ἴσμεν ἀτάκτως ὑπʼ αὐτῶν πολλαχοῦ γινόμενα. ἡμεῖς μὲν οὖν καὶ τοὺς ἀπὸ τῶν φιλοσόφων δογμάτων ὅση δύναμις προκαλούμεθα ἐπὶ τὴν καθʼ ἡμᾶς θεοσέβειαν, τὸ ἐξαίρετον καὶ τὸ εἰλικρινὲς αὐτῆς παριστάντες, ἐπεὶ δὲ διʼ ὧν ἔλεγεν ὁ Κέλσος παρέστησε τοῦτο μὲν ἡμᾶς μὴ ποιεῖν μόνους δὲ τοὺς ἀνοήτους καλεῖν, εἴποιμεν ἂν πρὸς αὐτόν· εἰ μὲν ἐνεκάλεις ἡμῖν ὡς ἀφιστᾶσι φιλοσοφίας τοὺς ἤδη προκατειλημμένους ἐν αὐτῇ, ἀλήθειαν μὲν οὐκ ἂν ἔφασκες. πιθανότητα δʼ ἂν εἶχέ σου ὁ λόγος· νυνὶ δὲ λέγων ἡμᾶς ἀφιστᾶν διδασκάλων τοὺς προσιόντας ἀγαθῶν, παράστησον τοὺς διδασκάλους ἄλλους παρὰ τοὺς φιλοσοφίας διδασκάλους ἢ τοὺς κατά τι τῶν χρησίμων πεποιημένους. ἀλλʼ οὐδὲν ἕξει τοιοῦτον δεικνύναι. μακαρίους δὲ ἔσεσθαι ἐπαγγελλόμεθα μετὰ παῤῥησίας καὶ οὐ κρύβδην τοὺς ζῶντας κατὰ τὸν τοῦ θεοῦ λόγον καὶ πάντα εἰς ἐκεῖνον ἀφορῶντας καὶ ὡς ἐπὶ θεοῦ θεατοῦ πᾶν ὅ τι ποτʼ οὖν ἐπιτελοῦντας. ἆρʼ οὖν ταῦτα ἐριουργῶν καὶ σκυτοτόμων καὶ κναφέων καὶ ἀπαιδευτοτάτων ἀγροίκων ἐστὶ μαθήματα; ἀλλὰ τοῦτο δεικνύναι οὐ δυνήσεται.
English · Claude translation
And which teachers do we say talk nonsense and are senseless, those on whose behalf Celsus stands up as teaching better things? Unless, perhaps, he thinks good teachers of women, and not talkers of nonsense, to be those who summon them to superstition and licentious spectacles, and not senseless those who lead and drive the young into all the disorderly things we know are done by them in many places. We, for our part, summon as far as we can even those from philosophical schools to our worship of God, showing its excellence and purity. But since Celsus by his words has represented that we do not do this but call only the foolish, we would say to him: If you accused us of drawing away from philosophy those already engaged in it, you would not be speaking the truth, but your argument would have some plausibility. But as it is, since you say that we draw those who come to us away from good teachers, show us teachers other than the teachers of philosophy, or those who have worked at some useful subject. But he will have nothing of the kind to show. And we promise openly, and not in secret, that those will be blessed who live according to the word of God, look to him in all things, and do whatever they do as with God looking on. Are these then the teachings of wool-workers, cobblers, fullers, and the most uneducated boors? But this he will not be able to show.
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Translation notes
- The digital text reads παρὰ ποὺς, a slip for παρὰ τοὺς; corrected.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (misread letter in the digital text): παρὰ ποὺς φιλοσοφίας → παρὰ τοὺς φιλοσοφίας.
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Origen, Cels. 3.57 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/3/57/).
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Origen, Cels. 3.57 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/3/57/).
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