Letters 102.1–102.24
Latin text: Goldbacher, CSEL 34, 44, 57 (Latin text: Alois Goldbacher (CSEL 34, 44, 57, 1895–1911), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 1 (1886).
Chapter 102
102.1CSEL 34.2:544–545
Quaestiones tibi propositas mihi delegare maluisti non, ut opinor, pigritia, sed quod ea quoque ipsa, quae nosti, libentius per nos audis, dum nos nimis diligis. at ego propterea malebam a te illas aperiri, quod ille ipse amicus, qui eas proposuit, quantum ex hoc conici datur, quod mihi ad quasdam epistulas non rescripsit, quasi nos uerecundatur sequi; uiderit quam ob causam. hoc tamen suspicor nec suspicio mea uel maliuola est uel absurda, cum et optime noueris, quantum eum diligam quantoque mihi dolori sit, quod nondum Christianus est, et utique non inconuenienter arbitror eum, quem uideo mihi rescribere noluisse, nihil sibi a me scribi uoluisse. proinde obsecro te, ut, quem ad modum ego tibi parui atque inter meas artissimas occupationes tuam sanctam mihique carissimam uoluntatem offendere timui, ut facerem, quod petisti, ita tu quoque facias, quod peto. hoc est autem, ut breuiter, quem ad modum a te, sicut mihi indicasti, postulauit, ad omnia illi respondere non graueris, quod et ante facere potuisti. scies enim, cum legeris, nihil paene a me dictum, quod ipse non noueras aut quod me tacente nosse non poteras. sed hoc opus meum habeas rogo cum ceteris, quorum studio scis conuenire. tuum uero illud, quod flagito, habeat ipse, cui hoc potissimum congruit, et ceteri, quos non parum ista delectant, quem ad modum abs te dici possunt, inter quos et ipse sum. uiuas semper in Christo nostri memor. SEX QVAESTIONES CONTRA PAGANOS EXPOSITAE.
You preferred to delegate to me the questions put to you, not, I think, from laziness, but because you hear even the things you know more gladly through us, since you love us too much. But I preferred that they be explained by you, because that friend himself who put them, as far as one may guess from the fact that he did not reply to some letters of mine, is as it were ashamed to follow us; let him see for what reason. This, however, I suspect, and my suspicion is neither malicious nor absurd, since you know very well how much I love him and how much it grieves me that he is not yet a Christian; and I think it not unfitting to suppose that one whom I see did not wish to write back to me did not wish anything to be written to him by me. So I beg you, just as I obeyed you and, amid my most pressing occupations, was afraid of offending your holy will, so dear to me, and did what you asked, so you too do what I ask: namely, that you do not mind answering him briefly on all points, as he asked of you, as you told me, which you could have done even before. For when you read this, you will know that almost nothing has been said by me which you did not know yourself or could not have known without my speaking. But I ask you to keep this work of mine with the others whose study you know it suits. But let that work of yours which I demand be had by him to whom it is above all suited, and by the others who take no small delight in these things, as they can be said by you; and I am one of them. May you live always in Christ, remembering us. Six questions against the pagans, explained.
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Summary: Augustine sends the presbyter Deogratias his answers to six questions put by a pagan friend, and asks him to answer the friend briefly himself.
- Addressed to the Carthaginian presbyter Deogratias (NPNF heading, ca. 409); the treatise is also known as Six Questions against the Pagans. The final line is the edition's heading for what follows.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.1 (CSEL 34.2:544–545; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-1).
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102.2CSEL 34.2:545–546
I. DE RESURRECTIONE. Mouet quosdam et requirunt de duabus resurrectionibus quae conueniat promissae resurrectioni, utrumnam Christi an Lazari. si Christi, inquiunt, quo modo potest haec conuenire resurrectioni natorum ex semine eius, qui nulla seminis condicione natus est? si autem Lazari resurrectio conuenire adseritur, ne haec quidem congruere uidetur, si quidem Lazari resurrectio facta sit de corpore nondum tabescente, de eo corpore, quo Lazarus dicebatur; nostra autem multis saeculis post ex confuso eruetur. deinde si post resurrectionem status beatus futurus est nulla corporis iniuria, nulla necessitate famis, quid sibi uult cibatum fuisse Christum et uulnera monstrauisse? sed si propter incredulum fecit, finxit; si autem uerum ostendit, ergo in resurrectione accepta futura sunt uulnera.
I. On the resurrection. Some people are troubled and ask which of the two resurrections agrees with the promised resurrection, Christ's or Lazarus's. “If Christ's,” they say, “how can it agree with the resurrection of those born of seed, when he was born under no condition of seed? But if it is asserted that Lazarus's resurrection agrees, not even this seems to fit, since Lazarus's resurrection was from a body not yet decomposing, from that body by which he was called Lazarus; whereas ours will be dug out of a confused mass many ages later. Then, if after the resurrection there is to be a blessed state with no injury to the body and no necessity of hunger, what is meant by Christ's having eaten and shown his wounds? If he did it for the sake of the unbeliever, he pretended; but if he showed something real, then the wounds received will be there in the resurrection.”
John 11:44 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 24:43 (allusion, high confidence) · John 20:27 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: The first pagan question asks whether the promised resurrection resembles Christ's or Lazarus's, and why the risen Christ ate and showed wounds.
- References: John 11:39–44; Luke 24:39–43; John 20:27.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.2 (CSEL 34.2:545–546; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-2).
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102.3CSEL 34.2:546–547
Quibus respondetur ideo non Lazari resurrectionem sed potius Christi congruere promissae resurrectioni, quia Lazarus ita resurrexit, ut iterum moreretur, Christus autem, sicut de illo scriptum est, surgens a mortuis iam non moritur et mors ei ultra non dominabitur. quod etiam promissum est resurrecturis in fine saeculi et cum illo regnaturis in aeternum. sic autem non pertinet ad resurrectionem differentia natiuitatis Christi et nostrae, quod ille sine uirili semine nos autem ex uiro et femina creati sumus, sicut non pertinet ad ipsius mortis differentiam. non enim propterea illius non uera mors fuit, quia sine uirili semine natus est, sicut nec ipsius primi hominis aliter exorta caro quam nostra, quando quidem ille sine parentibus de terra creatus est nos uero ex parentibus, aliquid adtulit ad differentiam mortis, ut aliter ille moreretur aliter nos. sicut autem ad mortis sic nec ad resurrectionis differentiam ualet diuersa natiuitas.
To these we answer that it is not Lazarus's resurrection but rather Christ's that agrees with the promised resurrection, because Lazarus rose so as to die again, but Christ, as is written of him, “rising from the dead dies no more, and death will no longer have dominion over him.” This is promised too to those who will rise at the end of the world and reign with him for ever. The difference between Christ's birth and ours, that he was born without male seed and we were created from man and woman, no more concerns the resurrection than it concerns the difference of death itself. For his death was not the less real because he was born without male seed; just as the different origin of the first man's flesh from ours (since he was created from the earth without parents, and we from parents) contributed nothing to a difference of death, as though he died one way and we another. As, then, a different birth makes no difference to death, so it makes none to resurrection.
Rom 6:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 2:7 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Christ's resurrection, not Lazarus's, is the pattern, since he dies no more; a different birth makes no difference to death or resurrection.
- Quotation: Rom 6:9. Reference: Gen 2:7.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): resun-ectionem → resurrectionem.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.3 (CSEL 34.2:546–547; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-3).
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102.4CSEL 34.2:547–548
Sed ne hoc ipsum, quod scriptum est de primo homine, similiter infideles nolint credere, quaerant uel animaduertant, si uel hoc possunt, quam multorum animalium genera sine parentibus ex terra procreentur, quae tamen coeundo pariant etiam ipsa sui similem prolem nec propter diuersitatem natiuitatis intersit aliquid ad naturam eorum, quae procreata sunt ex terra, et eorum, quae illis coeuntibus orta sunt. similiter enim uiuunt similiterque moriuntur, quamuis dissimiliter nata sint. ita non est absurdum, ut similiter resurgant corpora, quae dissimiliter orta sunt. huius modi autem homines non ualentes intueri, ad quam rem intersit aliquid diuersum et ad quam non intersit, ubi aduerterint aliquam distantiam primordiorum, etiam omnia consequentia distare oportere contendunt. possunt tales putare oleum ex adipibus non debere natare super aquam sicut illud, quod ex oliua est, quoniam longe est utriusque origo dissimilis, quando illud ex ligno hoc ex carne profluxerit.
But lest unbelievers likewise refuse to believe this very thing that is written of the first man, let them inquire or notice, if they can at least do this, how many kinds of animals are produced from the earth without parents, which nevertheless themselves bear offspring like themselves by mating; and because of the difference of birth there is no difference in the nature of those produced from the earth and those born of their mating. For they live alike and die alike, though they were born unlike. So it is not absurd that bodies which originated unlike should rise alike. But men of this kind, unable to see to what a difference matters and to what it does not, as soon as they notice some distance in origins, contend that all that follows must differ too. Such men may think that oil from fat ought not to float on water as that which is from the olive does, since the origin of each is very different, the one having flowed from wood, the other from flesh.
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Summary: Animals born from the earth and from parents live and die alike, so bodies of different origin can rise alike.
- The spontaneous generation of animals from earth is the natural science of Augustine's time, reported as he gives it.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.4 (CSEL 34.2:547–548; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-4).
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102.5CSEL 34.2:548–549
Quantum autem adtinet ad illam differentiam, quod Christi corpus non dissolutum tabe atque putredine die tertio resurrexit, nostra uero post longum tempus ex quadam, quo soluta discesserint, confusione reparabuntur, humanae facultati utrumque inpossibile est, diuinae autem potestati utrumque facillimum. ut enim radius oculi nostri non citius peruenit ad propinquiora tardius ad longinquiora, sed utraque interualla parili celeritate contingit, ita cum in ictu oculi, sicut apostolus dicit, fit resurrectio mortuorum, omnipotentiae dei et ineffabili nutui tam facile est quaeque recentia quam diuturno tempore dilapsa cadauera suscitare. incredibilia sunt haec quibusdam, quia inexperta, cum omnis natura rerum tam sit plena miraculis, ut non quasi facili peruestigatione rationis sed uidendi consuetudine mira non sint atque ob hoc nec consideratione nec inquisitione digna uideantur. nam ego et mecum quicumque inuisibilia dei per ea, quae facta sunt, intellegere moliuntur, aut non minus aut amplius admiramur in uno seminis tam paruulo grano omnia, quae laudamus in arbore, tamquam liciata latuisse, quam mundi huius tam ingentem sinum, quae de corporibus humanis, dum dilabuntur, absumit, resurrectioni futurae tota et integra redditurum.
As for that difference, that Christ's body rose on the third day not dissolved by decay and putrefaction, whereas ours will be restored after a long time from a kind of confusion into which they will have passed when dissolved: both are impossible to human ability, both are very easy to divine power. For just as the ray of our eye does not reach nearer things more quickly and farther things more slowly, but touches both distances with equal speed, so, when the resurrection of the dead takes place in the twinkling of an eye, as the apostle says, it is as easy for the omnipotence of God and his unspeakable will to raise corpses recently dead as those long since decayed. These things are incredible to some because they have not experienced them, though the whole nature of things is so full of miracles that they are not wonderful, not because reason has easily traced them out, but by the habit of seeing them, and for that reason they do not seem worth consideration or inquiry. For I, and with me whoever strives to understand the invisible things of God through the things that are made, marvel no less, or even more, that in one so small grain of seed all that we praise in the tree lay hidden as if folded up, than that the vast bosom of this world will return whole and entire for the future resurrection what it takes from human bodies as they decay.
1 Cor 15:52 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:20 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Raising long-dissolved bodies is as easy to God as raising Christ's on the third day; nature, like the seed holding the tree, is full of greater wonders.
- References: 1 Cor 15:52; Rom 1:20. The theory that sight works by a ray from the eye is ancient optics, reported as given.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray full stop in the digital text): humanae. facultati → humanae facultati.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.5 (CSEL 34.2:548–549; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-5).
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102.6CSEL 34.2:549–550
Quo modo autem contrarium est et Christum post resurrectionem cibatum et in resurrectione, quae promittitur, ciborum indigentiam non futuram, cum et angelos legamus eiusdem modi escas eodemque modo sumpsisse non ficto phantasmate sed manifestissima ueritate nec tamen necessitate sed potestate? aliter enim absorbet aquam terra sitiens aliter solis radius candens, illa indigentia iste potentia. futurae ergo resurrectionis corpus inperfectae felicitatis erit, si cibos sumere non potuerit, inperfectae felicitatis, si cibis eguerit. possem hic de commutationibus corporalium qualitatum et de praepotenti ualentia in inferiora corpora corporum superiorum latius disputare; sed breuiter mihi respondere propositum est et talibus ingeniis hoc scribitur, quae admonere suffecerit.
And how is it contradictory both that Christ ate after the resurrection and that in the promised resurrection there will be no need of food, when we read that angels too took food of the same kind and in the same way, not by a feigned phantom but in most manifest truth, yet not by necessity but by power? For the thirsty earth absorbs water in one way, the burning ray of the sun in another: the one from need, the other from power. So the body of the future resurrection will be of imperfect happiness if it cannot take food, and of imperfect happiness if it needs food. I could discuss at more length here the changes of bodily qualities and the superior power of higher bodies over lower ones; but my purpose is to answer briefly, and this is written for minds of such a kind that a reminder will suffice.
Gen 18:8 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: The risen body, like angels who ate with Abraham, will be able to eat by power without needing to.
- Reference: Gen 18:8 (angels eating with Abraham).
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.6 (CSEL 34.2:549–550; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-6).
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102.7CSEL 34.2:550–551
Sciat sane, qui has proposuit quaestiones, Christum post resurrectionem cicatrices, non uulnera demonstrasse dubitantibus, propter quos etiam cibum ac potum sumere uoluit non semel sed saepius, ne illud non corpus sed spiritum esse arbitrarentur et sibi non solide sed imaginaliter apparere. tunc autem illae falsae cicatrices fuissent, si nulla uulnera praecessissent; et tamen nec ipsae essent, si eas esse noluisset. uoluit autem certae dispensationis gratia, ut eis, quos aedificabat in fide non ficta, non aliud pro alio sed hoc, quod crucifixum uiderant, resurrexisse monstraret. quid est ergo, quod dicitur: Si propter incredulum fecit, finxit? quasi uero, si quisquam uir fortis pro patria dimicans multa aduersa uulnera exciperet et peritissimo medico, qui haec curare ita ualeret, ut cicatrices nullae apparerent, ipse potius diceret sic se uelle sanari, ut magis essent in corpore suo uestigia uulnerum tamquam tituli gloriarum, ideo ille medicus cicatrices finxisse diceretur, quia, cum per artem efficere potuerit, ut non essent, certa existente causa per artem effecit potius, ut essent. quae uno solo modo, sicut superius dixi, falsae conuincerentur, si nulla uulnera sanarentur.
Let him who put these questions know that after the resurrection Christ showed scars, not wounds, to those who doubted, for whose sake he also chose to take food and drink, not once but more often, lest they think it was not a body but a spirit, and that he appeared to them not solidly but as an image. Those scars would have been false if no wounds had preceded them; and yet they would not have existed at all if he had not willed them to exist. But he willed it for the sake of a certain dispensation, so as to show to those he was building up in an unfeigned faith that not one thing instead of another, but the very thing they had seen crucified, had risen. What then is the meaning of saying, “If he did it for the sake of the unbeliever, he pretended”? As if, supposing some brave man fighting for his country received many wounds in front, and when a most skilful physician could heal them so that no scars would appear, he himself said he would rather be healed so that traces of the wounds remained in his body as titles of glory, that physician would therefore be said to have feigned scars, because, though he could by his art have made them not exist, for a definite reason he made them exist instead. These scars, as I said above, could be proved false in only one way: if no wounds had been healed.
Luke 24:39 (allusion, high confidence) · John 20:27 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 10:41 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Christ showed real scars, not wounds, to prove the same body had risen, as a soldier might keep scars as badges of honour.
- References: Luke 24:37–43; John 20:27; Acts 10:41.
Topics: Eschatology, Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.7 (CSEL 34.2:550–551; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-7).
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102.8CSEL 34.2:551–552
II. DE TEMPORE CHRISTIANAE RELIGIONIS. Item alia proposuerunt, quae dicerent de Porphyrio contra Christianos tamquam ualidiora decerpta: Si Christus, inquiunt, salutis se uiam dicit, gratiam et ueritatem in seque solo ponit animis sibi credentibus reditum, quid egerunt tot saeculorum homines ante Christum? ut dimittam, inquit, tempora ante Latium regnatum, ab ipso Latio quasi principium humani nominis sumamus. in ipso Latio ante Albam dii culti sunt. in Alba aeque religiones ritusque ualuere templorum. non paucioribus saeculis ipsa Roma longo saeculorum tractu sine Christiana lege fuit. quid, inquit, actum de tam innumeris animis, quae omnino in culpa nulla sunt, si quidem is, cui credi posset, nondum aduentum suum hominibus commodarat? orbis quoque cum ipsa Roma in ritibus templorum caluit. quare, inquit, saluator qui dictus est, sese tot saeculis subduxit? sed ne dicant, inquit, lege Iudaica uetere hominum curatum genus, longo post tempore lex Iudaeorum apparuit ac uiguit angusta Syriae regione, postea uero prorepsit etiam in fines Italos sed post Caesarem Gaium aut certe ipso imperante. quid igitur actum de Romanis animis uel Latinis, quae gratia nondum aduenientis Christi uiduatae sunt usque in Caesarum tempus?
II. On the time of the Christian religion. They also put forward other things, which they said were extracted from Porphyry against the Christians, as stronger arguments: “If Christ,” they say, “declares himself the way of salvation, grace and truth, and places in himself alone the return for souls that believe in him, what did the people of so many ages before Christ do? To pass over,” he says, “the times before Latium was ruled, let us take Latium itself as the beginning, as it were, of human civilization. In Latium itself, before Alba, gods were worshipped. In Alba, too, religions and the rites of temples prevailed. For no fewer ages Rome itself, through a long stretch of ages, was without the Christian law. What,” he says, “has become of such innumerable souls, which are in no way to blame, if he in whom one could believe had not yet granted his coming to men? The world too, together with Rome itself, glowed with the rites of temples. Why,” he says, “did he who is called Saviour withdraw himself for so many ages? But lest they say,” he says, “that the human race was cared for by the old Jewish law, the law of the Jews appeared long after and flourished in a narrow region of Syria, and afterwards crept even into the borders of Italy, but after Gaius Caesar or at the earliest while he was ruling. What then has become of the Roman or Latin souls, which were deprived of the grace of the not yet coming Christ up to the time of the Caesars?”
John 14:6 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:17 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: The second question, taken from Porphyry, asks what became of all the souls who lived before Christ came.
- Quotation from Porphyry, Against the Christians (fr. 81 Harnack), as reported to Augustine. Allusion: John 14:6; John 1:17.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray asterisk in the digital text; stray mark in the digital text): Christus>, inquiunt → Christus, inquiunt; tempus?* → tempus?.
Extrabiblical texts: Porphyry, Porphyry, Chr. 81 (Porphyry, Against the Christians (fragments); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.8 (CSEL 34.2:551–552; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-8).
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102.9CSEL 34.2:552
Huic propositioni respondetur, ut primo ipsi dicant, utrum profuerint hominibus deorum suorum sacra, quae constat certis temporibus instituta. quae si negant aliquid profuisse ad animarum salutem, nobiscum ea destruunt et esse inania confitentur. nos quidem etiam perniciosa monstramus; sed parum non est, ut ipsi interim prius inania fateantur. si uero ea defendunt et sapienter atque utiliter adserunt instituta, quaero, quid actum sit de his, qui ante, quam haec instituta essent, morte obierunt; hac enim utique salute atque utilitate fraudati sunt. si autem potuerunt alio modo purgari, cur non idem modus perseuerauit in posteros? quid opus erat instituere nouitias consecrationes, quae antiquitus non fuerunt?
To this proposition the answer is that they should first say themselves whether the rites of their gods, which were clearly instituted at definite times, profited men. If they deny that these profited anything for the salvation of souls, they destroy them along with us and confess that they are empty. We indeed show that they are even harmful; but it is no small thing that they should first confess them empty for the time being. But if they defend them and assert that they were wisely and usefully instituted, I ask what has become of those who died before these were instituted; for they were certainly cheated of this salvation and benefit. And if they could be purified in another way, why did the same way not continue for their descendants? What need was there to institute new consecrations which did not exist in ancient times?
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Summary: The same objection applies to pagan rites, which were instituted at definite times and so were unavailable to those who died before them.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.9 (CSEL 34.2:552; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-9).
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102.10CSEL 34.2:552–553
Hic si dicunt deos quidem ipsos semper fuisse et ad liberandos cultores suos pariter ubique ualuisse, sed pro uarietate rerum temporalium ac terrenarum, quae scirent certis temporibus locisque congruere, in his alias atque alias alibi atque alibi aliter atque aliter sibi uoluisse seruiri, cur hanc quaestionem ingerunt religioni Christianae, in qua nobis ipsi pro diis suis aut respondere non possunt aut, si possunt, in eo ipso sibi etiam pro nostra religione respondeant ita nihil interesse pro diuersa temporum locorumque congruentia, quam diuersis sacramentis colatur, si, quod colitur, sanctum est, sicut nihil interest pro diuersa linguarum auditorumque congruentia, quam diuersis sonis dicatur, si quod dicitur, uerum est, dum hoc sane intersit, quod linguae sonos, quibus inter se sua sensa communicent, etiam homines pacto quodam societatis instituere sibi possunt, quibus autem sacris diuinitati congruerent, uoluntatem dei secuti sunt, qui recte sapuerunt. quae omnino numquam defuit ad salutem iustitiae pietatique mortalium et, si qua in aliis atque aliis populis una eademque religione sociatis uarie celebrantur, quatenus fiat, plurimum refert, quo et humana exhortetur uel toleretur infirmitas et diuina non oppugnetur auctoritas.
If here they say that the gods themselves always existed and were everywhere equally able to free their worshippers, but, according to the variety of temporal and earthly things, which they knew to suit definite times and places, they wished to be served in different ways, in different places, in different manners, why do they press this question on the Christian religion, when either they cannot answer it for their own gods, or, if they can, in that very answer they should answer for our religion too: that it makes no difference, according to the different suitability of times and places, by what different sacraments one worships, if what is worshipped is holy; just as it makes no difference, according to the different suitability of languages and hearers, by what different sounds something is said, if what is said is true. With this difference, indeed: that men can institute for themselves the sounds of language, by which to communicate their thoughts to one another, by a kind of social agreement; but those who were rightly wise have followed the will of God as to what rites would befit the Godhead. That will has never been lacking for the salvation of the righteousness and piety of mortals; and if certain things are celebrated differently among various peoples joined in one and the same religion, it matters greatly how far this is done, so that human weakness may be encouraged or tolerated and divine authority not opposed.
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Summary: Pagans who say their gods were served differently in different times must allow the same for the one true religion, whose rites follow God's will.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray full stop in the digital text): our hanc → cur hanc; si. quod dicitur → si quod dicitur.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.10 (CSEL 34.2:552–553; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-10).
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102.11CSEL 34.2:553–554
Quam ob rem cum Christum dicamus uerbum dei, per quod facta sunt omnia, et ideo filium, quia uerbum, nec uerbum dictum atque transactum sed apud incommutabilem patrem incommutabile ipsum atque incommutabiliter manens, sub cuius regimine uniuersa creatura spiritalis et corporalis pro congruentia temporum locorumque administratur, cuius moderandae et gubernandae quid quando et ubi circa eam fieri oporteat, sapientia et scientia penes ipsum est profecto - et ante, quam propagaret Hebraeorum gentem, per quam sui aduentus manifestationem congruis sacramentis praefiguraret, et ipsis temporibus Israhelitici regni et deinde, cum se in carne de uirgine accepta mortalibus mortaliter demonstrauit, et deinceps usque nunc, cum implet omnia, quae per prophetas ante praedixit, et abhinc usque in finem saeculi, quo sanctos ab impiis dirempturus est et sua cuique retributurus, idem ipse est filius dei patri coaeternus et incommutabilis sapientia, per quam creata est uniuersa natura et cuius participatione omnis rationalis anima fit beata.
Therefore, since we say that Christ is the Word of God, through whom all things were made, and is therefore Son because he is Word; not a word spoken and passed away, but abiding with the unchangeable Father, himself unchangeable and unchangeably; under whose rule the whole creation, spiritual and corporeal, is administered according to the suitability of times and places; with whom, surely, rests the wisdom and knowledge of what should be done concerning it, and when and where, in directing and governing it: both before he propagated the nation of the Hebrews, through which he would prefigure by suitable sacraments the manifestation of his coming, and in the very times of the kingdom of Israel, and afterwards when he showed himself mortal to mortals in the flesh taken from a virgin, and from then until now, when he fulfils all that he foretold through the prophets, and from now until the end of the world, when he will separate the saints from the ungodly and render to each his own, he is the same Son of God, coeternal with the Father, and the unchangeable Wisdom through whom all nature was created and by participation in whom every rational soul is made blessed.
John 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Col 2:3 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 25:32 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 16:27 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Christ, the unchangeable Word through whom all things were made, has governed all ages by suitable means, before and after his incarnation.
- References: John 1:1–3; Col 2:3; Matt 25:32; Matt 16:27. The Christological statements are translated exactly as written.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.11 (CSEL 34.2:553–554; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-11).
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102.12CSEL 34.2:554–555
Itaque ab exordio generis humani quicumque in eum crediderunt eumque utcumque intellexerunt et secundum eius praecepta pie iusteque uixerunt, quando libet et ubi libet fuerint, per eum procul dubio salui facti sunt. sicut enim nos in eum credimus et apud patrem manentem et qui in carne iam uenerit, sic in eum credebant antiqui et apud patrem manentem et in carne uenturum. nec, quia pro temporum uarietate nunc factum adnuntiatur, quod tunc futurum praenuntiabatur, ideo fides ipsa uariata uel salus ipsa diuersa est nec, quia una eademque res aliis atque aliis sacris et sacramentis uel prophetatur uel praedicatur, ideo alias et alias res uel alias et alias salutes oportet intellegi. quid autem quando fiat, quod ad unam eandemque fidelium et piorum liberationem pertineat, consilium deo tribuamus, nobis oboedientiam teneamus. proinde aliis tunc nominibus et signis aliis autem nunc et prius occultius postea manifestius et prius a paucioribus post a pluribus una tamen eademque uera religio significatur et obseruatur.
And so, from the beginning of the human race, whoever believed in him and understood him in whatever way, and lived piously and righteously according to his precepts, whenever and wherever they were, were without doubt saved through him. For as we believe in him both as abiding with the Father and as having already come in the flesh, so the ancients believed in him both as abiding with the Father and as going to come in the flesh. Nor, because according to the variety of times what was then foretold as future is now announced as done, is faith itself therefore varied or salvation itself different; nor, because one and the same thing is prophesied or preached by different rites and sacraments, must different things or different salvations be understood. What is done, and when, that pertains to the one and same deliverance of the faithful and godly, let us attribute to God's counsel, and let us keep obedience for ourselves. So by other names and signs then, and by others now, earlier more hiddenly and later more openly, earlier by fewer and later by more, one and the same true religion is signified and observed.
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Summary: All who believed in Christ and lived piously from the beginning of the human race were saved through him; one true religion has existed under different signs.
- Augustine's claim that the righteous before Christ were saved through faith in him is translated exactly as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): eiordio → exordio.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.12 (CSEL 34.2:554–555; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-12).
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102.13CSEL 34.2:555
Nec nos eis obicimus, quod aliter Numa Pompilius deos colendos Romanis instituit, atque ab eis uel Italis antea colebantur, nec quod Pythagoreis temporibus illa philosophia celebrata est, quae antea uel omnino non erat uel in paucissimis eadem sentientibus non tamen eodem ritu uiuentibus fortasse latitabat, sed utrum illi dii ueri aut colendi sint et utrum illa philosophia saluti animarum aliquid prosit; hoc cum eis agimus, hoc in quaestionem uocamus, hoc disputando conuellimus. desinant igitur obicere nobis, quod omni sectae et omni nomini religionis obici potest. cum enim non fortuito labi sed diuina prouidentia tempora ordinari fateantur, quid cuique tempori aptum et opportunum sit, humanum consilium praetergreditur et illinc dispertitur, unde ipsa prouidentia rebus consulit.
Nor do we object to them that Numa Pompilius instituted for the Romans a worship of the gods different from that with which they or the Italians had worshipped them before, nor that in the time of Pythagoras that philosophy became celebrated which either did not exist at all before or perhaps lay hidden among very few who held the same opinions but did not live by the same rule; but whether those gods are true or to be worshipped, and whether that philosophy profits the salvation of souls at all: this we argue with them, this we call into question, this we overthrow by argument. Let them stop, then, objecting to us what can be objected to every sect and every name of religion. For since they admit that the times are ordered not by chance but by divine providence, what is fitting and opportune for each time surpasses human counsel and is distributed from the source whence providence itself takes care of things.
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Summary: Christians do not fault paganism for changing its rites over time, but for worshipping false gods; what suits each time is set by providence.
- Numa Pompilius, legendary second king of Rome, credited with founding Roman religious institutions.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.13 (CSEL 34.2:555; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-13).
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102.14CSEL 34.2:555–557
Si enim dixerint propterea non semper nec ubique fuisse Pythagoricam disciplinam, quia Pythagoras homo fuit neque hoc in potestate habere potuit, numquid etiam hoc possunt dicere eo ipso tempore, quando fuit, et terrarum locis, ubi illa philosophia uiguit, omnes, qui eum potuerunt audire, etiam credere sectarique uoluisse? ac per hoc magis, si tantae potestatis fuisset Pythagoras, ut, ubi uellet et quando uellet, sua dogmata praedicaret, et si haberet etiam cum ea potestate summam rerum praescientiam, nusquam et numquam appareret, nisi ubi et quando sibi homines credituros esse praenosceret. proinde, cum Christo non obiciant, quod eius doctrinam non omnes sequuntur, sentiunt enim et ipsi nequaquam hoc recte obici posse uel sapientiae philosophorum uel etiam numini deorum suorum, quid respondebunt, si excepta illa altitudine sapientiae et scientiae dei, ubi fortassis aliud diuinum consilium longe secretius latet, sine praeiudicio etiam aliarum forte causarum, quae a prudentibus inuestigari queunt, hoc solum eis breuitatis gratia in huius quaestionis disputatione dicamus tunc uoluisse hominibus apparere Christum et apud eos praedicari doctrinam suam, quando sciebat et ubi sciebat esse, qui in eum fuerant credituri? his enim temporibus et his locis, quibus euangelium eius non est praedicatum, tales omnes in eius praedicatione futuros esse praesciebat, quales non quidem omnes sed tamen multi in eius corporali praesentia fuerunt, qui in eum nec suscitatis ab eo mortuis credere uoluerunt, quales etiam nunc multos uidemus, cum tanta manifestatione de illo compleantur praeconia prophetarum, nolle adhuc credere et malle humana astutia resistere quam tam clarae atque perspicuae tamque sublimi et sublimiter diffamatae diuinae cedere auctoritati, quam diu paruus et infirmus est intellectus hominis diuinae cedere ueritati. quid ergo mirum, si tam infidelibus plenum orbem terrarum Christus prioribus saeculis nouerat, ut eis apparere uel praedicari merito nollet, quos nec uerbis nec miraculis suis credituros esse praesciebat? neque enim incredibile est tales fuisse tunc omnes, quales ab eius aduentu usque ad hoc tempus tam multos fuisse atque esse miramur.
For if they say that the Pythagorean teaching did not exist always and everywhere because Pythagoras was a man and could not have this in his power, can they also say that at the very time when he lived, and in the regions where that philosophy flourished, all who could hear him also wished to believe and follow him? And so, all the more, if Pythagoras had been of such power as to preach his doctrines where and when he wished, and if, with that power, he also had supreme foreknowledge of things, he would appear nowhere and never except where and when he foreknew that men would believe him. Therefore, since they do not object to Christ that not all follow his teaching (for they themselves feel that this can by no means rightly be objected either to the wisdom of the philosophers or even to the divinity of their own gods), what will they answer if, setting aside that depth of the wisdom and knowledge of God, where perhaps some other divine counsel lies far more hidden, and without prejudice to other causes too, perhaps, that the wise may investigate, we say to them only this, for brevity's sake, in discussing this question: that Christ willed to appear to men and his teaching to be preached among them when he knew, and where he knew, there were those who would believe in him? For in those times and places in which his Gospel was not preached, he foreknew that all would be such in regard to its preaching as, not indeed all, but many were in his bodily presence, who would not believe in him even when he raised the dead; such as we see many even now, when the proclamations of the prophets about him are fulfilled so manifestly, still unwilling to believe and preferring to resist by human cunning rather than yield to divine authority so clear and evident, so sublime and so sublimely spread abroad, as long as man's understanding is small and weak to yield to divine truth. What wonder then, if Christ knew that in earlier ages the world was so full of unbelievers that he rightly did not wish to appear or be preached to those who, he foreknew, would believe neither his words nor his miracles? For it is not incredible that all were then such as we marvel that so many have been and are from his coming until this time.
Rom 11:33 (allusion, high confidence) · John 12:37 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Christ appeared when and where he foreknew there would be believers; in earlier ages he foresaw that people would not have believed even his miracles.
- References: Rom 11:33; John 12:37. Augustine's argument from foreknowledge is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray full stop in the digital text): disciplinam,. → disciplinam,.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.14 (CSEL 34.2:555–557; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-14).
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102.15CSEL 34.2:557–558
Et tamen ab initio generis humani alias occultius alias euidentius, sicut congruere temporibus diuinitus uisum est, nec prophetari destitit nec, qui in eum crederent, defuerunt ab Adam usque ad Moysen et in ipso populo Israhel, quae speciali quodam mysterio gens prophetica fuit, et in aliis gentibus, antequam uenisset in carne. cum enim nonnulli commemorantur in sanctis Hebraicis libris iam ex tempore Abrahae nec de stirpe carnis eius nec ex populo Israhel nec aduenticia societate in populo Israhel, qui tamen huius sacramenti participes fuerunt, cur non credamus etiam in ceteris hac atque illac gentibus alias alios fuisse, quamuis eos commemoratos in eisdem auctoritatibus non legamus? ita salus religionis huius, per quam solam ueram salus uera ueraciterque promittitur, nulli umquam defuit, qui dignus fuit, et, cui defuit, dignus non fuit. et ab exordio propagationis humanae usque in finem quibusdam ad praemium quibusdam ad iudicium praedicatur. ac per hoc et, quibus omnino adnuntiata non est, non credituri praesciebantur et, quibus non credituris tamen adnuntiata est, in illorum exemplo demonstrantur; quibus autem credituris adnuntiatur, hi regno caelorum et sanctorum angelorum societati praeparantur.
And yet from the beginning of the human race, sometimes more hiddenly, sometimes more evidently, as it seemed good to God to suit the times, he never ceased to be prophesied, nor were those lacking who believed in him, from Adam to Moses, and in the people of Israel itself, which by a special mystery was a prophetic nation, and in other nations, before he came in the flesh. For since some are mentioned in the holy Hebrew books, already from the time of Abraham, who were neither of his fleshly stock nor of the people of Israel nor joined to the people of Israel as foreigners, and yet were partakers of this sacrament, why should we not believe that in the other nations too, here and there, there were others at other times, though we do not read of them mentioned in the same authorities? Thus the salvation of this religion, through which alone true salvation is truly promised, was never lacking to anyone who was worthy, and he to whom it was lacking was not worthy. And from the beginning of human propagation to the end it is preached, to some for reward, to some for judgment. And so those to whom it was not announced at all were foreknown as not going to believe; and those to whom it was announced though they would not believe are shown as an example of the former; but those to whom it is announced who will believe are being prepared for the kingdom of heaven and the fellowship of the holy angels.
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Summary: Believers in Christ existed in every age and even outside Israel; the true religion was never lacking to anyone worthy of it.
- Examples of such outsiders in Scripture would be Melchizedek and Job (not named here). The statements on worthiness and foreknowledge are translated exactly as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray full stop in the digital text): Israhel,. → Israhel,.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.15 (CSEL 34.2:557–558; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-15).
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102.16CSEL 34.2:558
III. DE SACRIFICIORUM DISTINCTIONE. Iam uideamus eam, quae sequitur, quaestionem. <accusant, inquit, ritus sacrorum, hostias, tura et cetera, quae templorum cultus exercuit, cum idem cultus ab ipsis, inquit, uel a deo, quem colunt, exorsus est temporibus priscis, cum inducitur deus primitiis eguisse.
III. On the distinction of sacrifices. Now let us look at the question that follows. “They condemn,” he says, “the rites of sacrifice, victims, incense and the rest that the worship of the temples practised, though the same worship,” he says, “began in ancient times with them, or with the God whom they worship, since God is represented as having needed first-fruits.”
Gen 4:4 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: The third question objects that Christians condemn pagan sacrifices though their own God once required offerings.
- Reference: Gen 4:3–4.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.16 (CSEL 34.2:558; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-16).
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102.17CSEL 34.2:558–559
Huic respondetur, quoniam ex illo scripturarum nostrarum loco haec quaestio proposita agnoscitur, ubi scriptum est Cain ex fructibus terrae Abel autem ex primitiuis ouium obtulisse munus deo, hinc potius esse intellegendum, quam sit res antiqua sacrificium, quod non nisi uni uero deo offerri oportere ueraces et sacrae litterae monent, non quod illo egeat deus, cum in eisdem ipsis litteris apertissime scriptum sit: Dixi domino: Deus meus es tu, quoniam bonorum meorum non eges sed quod etiam in his uel acceptandis uel reprobandis uel percipiendis non nisi hominibus consulat. nobis enim prodest colere deum, non ipsi deo. cum ergo inspirat et docet, quo modo colendus sit, non solum sua nulla indigentia facit sed nostra maxima utilitate. significatiua sunt autem omnia talia sacrificia et quarundam rerum similitudines, quibus admoneri nos oportet ad ea ipsa, quorum similitudines sunt, siue scrutanda siue noscenda siue recolenda. de qua re, quantum satis est, disserenda non breuis sermo flagitandus est, quo nunc respondere nobis propositum est, praesertim quia in aliis opusculis nostris de hac re multa iam diximus et, qui ante nos dei eloquia tractauerunt, de similitudinibus sacrificiorum ueteris testamenti tamquam umbris figurisque futurorum copiose locuti sunt.
To this the answer is that, since this question is recognized as raised from that passage of our Scriptures where it is written that Cain offered a gift to God from the fruits of the earth and Abel from the firstlings of the sheep, one should rather understand from it how ancient a thing sacrifice is, which the true and sacred writings warn must be offered to none but the one true God; not that God needs it, since in those very writings it is most plainly written, “I said to the Lord, You are my God, for you have no need of my goods”, but that even in accepting, rejecting or receiving these he takes thought only for men. For worshipping God benefits us, not God himself. When therefore he inspires and teaches how he is to be worshipped, he does it not from any need of his own but for our very great benefit. All such sacrifices are significant, likenesses of certain things, by which we ought to be reminded of the very things they are likenesses of, whether to search them out, or know them, or recall them. To discuss this sufficiently would require no brief discourse, whereas our purpose now is to answer briefly; especially since in other little works of ours we have already said much on this, and those who expounded God's words before us have spoken copiously of the likenesses of the sacrifices of the Old Testament as shadows and figures of things to come.
Gen 4:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 4:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 16:2 (15:2 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Col 2:17 (allusion, medium confidence) · Heb 10:1 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Sacrifice is as old as Cain and Abel and is owed only to the true God, who needs nothing; sacrifices are signs of spiritual realities.
- References: Gen 4:3–4; Ps 16:2 (15:2 LXX); Col 2:17; Heb 10:1.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.17 (CSEL 34.2:558–559; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-17).
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102.18CSEL 34.2:559–560
Hoc sane nec in ista breuitate praetereundum est, quod templum, sacerdotem, sacrificium et alia quaecumque ad haec pertinentia nisi uni uero deo deberi nossent dii falsi, hoc est daemones, qui sunt praeuaricatores angeli, numquam haec sibi a cultoribus suis, quos decipiunt, expetissent. uerum haec cum exhibentur deo secundum eius inspirationem atque doctrinam, uera religio est, cum autem daemonibus secundum eorum impiam superbiam, noxia superstitio. quapropter qui Christianas litteras utriusque testamenti sciunt, non hoc culpant in sacrilegis ritibus paganorum, quod construant templa et instituant sacerdotia et faciant sacrificia, sed quod haec idolis et daemoniis exhibeant. et idola quidem omni sensu carere quis dubitet? uerum tamen cum his locantur sedibus honorabili sublimitate, ut a precantibus atque immolantibus adtendantur, ipsa similitudine animatorum membrorum atque sensuum quamuis insensata et exanima afficiunt infirmos animos, ut uiuere ac spirare uideantur accedente praesertim ueneratione multitudinis, qua tantus eis cultus inpenditur.
This at least must not be passed over even in this brevity: that the false gods, that is, the demons, who are fallen angels, would never have demanded a temple, priest, sacrifice and whatever else belongs to these from their worshippers whom they deceive, had they not known that these are owed only to the one true God. But when these are offered to God according to his inspiration and teaching, it is true religion; when offered to demons according to their ungodly pride, it is harmful superstition. Therefore those who know the Christian writings of both testaments do not blame the sacrilegious rites of the pagans for building temples, instituting priesthoods and making sacrifices, but for offering these to idols and demons. And who would doubt that idols lack all sense? Yet when they are placed on seats of honourable height, so as to be looked at by those who pray and sacrifice, by the very likeness of living members and senses, though senseless and lifeless, they affect weak minds so that they seem to live and breathe, especially when the veneration of the multitude is added, by which such great worship is paid them.
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Summary: Demons demand temples and sacrifices because they know these belong to God; the fault of paganism is offering them to idols and demons.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.18 (CSEL 34.2:559–560; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-18).
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102.19CSEL 34.2:560–561
Quibus morbidis et pestilentiosis affectibus mederetur scriptura diuina, quae rem quidem notam sed tamen salubri remedio admonitionis inculcat dicens: Oculos habent et non uident, aures habent et non audiunt et cetera talia. haec enim uerba quo magis aperta et populariter uera sunt, eo magis incutiunt salubrem pudorem illis, qui, cum talibus simulacris diuinum cum timore cultum exhibent eaque uiuentibus similia uenerantes adorantesque contuentur eisque uelut praesentibus preces allegant, uictimas immolant, uota persoluunt, sic afficiuntur omnino, ut ea sensu carentia putare non audeant. ne arbitrentur autem isti hoc solum nostros libros uelle sonare, quod huiusce modi affectus humano cordi ex idolis innascitur, apertissime scriptum est: Quoniam omnes dii gentium daemonia. unde et apostolica disciplina non solum dicit, quod apud Iohannem legitur: Fratres, cauete a simulacris, uerum etiam quod apud Paulum: Quid ergo dico? quod idolis immolatum sit aliquid aut idolum est aliquid? sed quae immolant gentes, daemoniis et non deo immolant; nolo autem uos socios fieri daemoniorum. unde satis intellegi potest non tam ipsam immolationem, nam uero deo prisci sancti immolauerunt, sed quod diis falsis et impiis daemoniis immolatur, reprehendi a uera religione in superstitionibus gentium. sicut enim ueritas hortatur homines fieri socios sanctorum angelorum, ita seducit impietas ad societatem daemoniorum, cui praeparatur ignis aeternus sicut regnum aeternum societati sanctorum.
These morbid and pestilent affections the divine Scripture would heal, which inculcates a thing well known but with the wholesome remedy of warning, saying, “They have eyes and do not see, they have ears and do not hear”, and the rest. For these words, the more obvious and popularly true they are, the more they strike a wholesome shame into those who, when they pay divine worship with fear to such images and gaze on them, venerating and adoring them as like living beings, and address prayers to them as if present, sacrifice victims, pay vows, are so affected that they do not dare think them without sense. But lest these people think that our books mean to say only that affections of this kind arise in the human heart from idols, it is most plainly written: “For all the gods of the nations are demons.” Hence the apostolic teaching says not only what is read in John, “Brothers, guard yourselves from idols”, but also what is read in Paul: “What then do I say? That what is sacrificed to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? But what the nations sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become partners with demons.” From this it can be sufficiently understood that it is not so much sacrifice itself (for the holy men of old sacrificed to the true God) but sacrifice to false gods and ungodly demons that true religion condemns in the superstitions of the nations. For as truth urges men to become partners of the holy angels, so ungodliness seduces them to fellowship with the demons, for which eternal fire is prepared, as an eternal kingdom is for the fellowship of the saints.
Ps 115:5 (113:13 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 115:6 (113:14 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 96:5 (95:5 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · 1 John 5:21 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 10:19 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 10:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 25:41 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Scripture mocks senseless idols and identifies the gods of the nations as demons; true religion condemns sacrifice to demons, not sacrifice as such.
- Quotations: Ps 115:5–6 (113:13–14 LXX); Ps 96:5 (95:5 LXX); 1 John 5:21; 1 Cor 10:19–20. Allusion: Matt 25:41. In the Latin, 1 John 5:21 begins “Brothers” instead of “Little children”.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.19 (CSEL 34.2:560–561; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-19).
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102.20CSEL 34.2:561–563
Neque illinc excusant impii sua sacrilega sacra et simulacra, quod eleganter interpretantur, quid quaeque significent. omnis quippe illa interpretatio ad creaturam refertur, non ad creatorem, cui uni debetur seruitus religionis illa, quae uno nomine λατρεία Graece appellatur. nec nos dicimus terram, maria, caelum, solem, lunam, stellas et quasdam non in promptu sitas aelites potestates esse daemonia; sed cum omnis creatura partim corporalis sit partim uero incorporalis, quam etiam spiritalem uocamus, manifestum est id, quod a nobis pie ac religiose fit, a uoluntate animi proficisci, quae creatura spiritalis est et omni corporali praeponenda. unde colligitur corporali creaturae non esse sacrificandum. restat spiritalis, quae uel pia uel impia est: pia scilicet in hominibus et angelis iustis et deo rite seruientibus, impia uero in hominibus et angelis iniquis, quos etiam daemones dicimus. ac per hoc nec spiritali quamuis iustae creaturae sacrificandum est, quoniam, quanto magis pia est et subdita deo, tanto minus se tali honore dignatur, quem scit non deberi nisi deo. quanto ergo perniciosius est sacrificare daemoniis, hoc est iniquae spiritali creaturae, quae in hoc proximo et caliginoso caelo habitans tamquam in aerio carcere suo praedestinata est supplicio sempiterno! quam ob rem etiam cum se homines superioribus caelestibus potestatibus, quae non sunt daemonia, sacrificare dicunt et solius nominis interesse arbitrantur, quod illi deos, nos eos angelos appellamus, non se opponant eis ludificandis multiplici fallacia nisi daemones, qui errore delectantur et quodam modo pascuntur humano, quoniam sancti angeli non adprobant sacrificium, nisi quod ex doctrina uerae sapientiae ueraeque religionis offertur uni uero deo, cui sancta societate deseruiunt. proinde sicut impia superbia siue hominum siue daemonum sibi hos diuinos honores exhiberi uel iubet uel cupit, ita pia humilitas uel hominum uel angelorum sanctorum haec sibi oblata recusauit et, cui deberentur, ostendit. cuius rei manifestissima in sacris litteris nostris exempla monstrantur.
Nor do the ungodly excuse their sacrilegious rites and images by elegantly interpreting what each signifies. For all that interpretation refers to the creature, not to the Creator, to whom alone is owed that service of religion which is called by one word in Greek, latreia. Nor do we say that the earth, the seas, the sky, the sun, the moon, the stars and certain heavenly powers not readily seen are demons; but since all creation is partly corporeal and partly incorporeal, which we also call spiritual, it is clear that what we do piously and religiously proceeds from the will of the mind, which is a spiritual creature and to be preferred to every corporeal one. From this it follows that sacrifice is not to be offered to a corporeal creature. There remains the spiritual, which is either godly or ungodly: godly in righteous men and angels who rightly serve God, ungodly in wicked men and angels, whom we also call demons. And so sacrifice is not to be offered even to a spiritual creature, however righteous, since the more godly it is and subject to God, the less it deems itself worthy of such an honour, which it knows is owed only to God. How much more ruinous, then, is it to sacrifice to demons, that is, to a wicked spiritual creature, which, dwelling in this nearest and misty sky as in its prison of air, is predestined to eternal punishment! Therefore, even when men say they sacrifice to the higher heavenly powers, which are not demons, and think the difference is only one of name, because they call them gods and we call them angels, none but demons present themselves to mock them with manifold deceit, demons who delight in and in a way feed on human error; for the holy angels approve no sacrifice except that which, according to the teaching of true wisdom and true religion, is offered to the one true God, whom they serve in holy fellowship. So, just as the ungodly pride of men or demons commands or desires that these divine honours be shown to itself, so the godly humility of men or holy angels has refused them when offered and has shown to whom they were owed. Of this the most manifest examples are shown in our sacred writings.
Rom 1:25 (allusion, high confidence) · Eph 2:2 (allusion, medium confidence) · 2 Pet 2:4 (allusion, medium confidence) · Acts 10:26 (allusion, medium confidence) · Acts 14:15 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rev 19:10 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rev 22:9 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Allegorical interpretations of pagan rites point to creatures, not the Creator; sacrifice is owed to God alone, and holy angels and men refuse it.
- The digital text's “Xatpeta” is an OCR of the Greek λατρεία (religious service), corrected. “Aelites” is unclear (perhaps “caelites”, heavenly beings) and is translated by sense. References: Rom 1:25; Eph 2:2; 2 Pet 2:4; Acts 10:25–26; Acts 14:14–15; Rev 19:10; Rev 22:8–9.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR of Greek letters as Latin; stray colon in the digital text): Xatpeta → λατρεία; exhiberi: uel → exhiberi uel.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.20 (CSEL 34.2:561–563; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-20).
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102.21CSEL 34.2:563
Dispertita autem diuinis eloquiis sacrificia pro temporum congruentia, ut alia fierent ante manifestationem noui testamenti, quod ex ipsa uera et unius sacerdotis uictima, hoc est ex fuso Christi sanguine ministratur, et aliud nunc, quod huic manifestationi congruum, qui iam declarato nomine Christiani appellamur, offerimus, non solum euangelicis uerum etiam propheticis litteris demonstratur. mutatio quippe non dei non ipsius religionis sed sacrificiorum et sacramentorum inpudenter nunc uideretur praedicata, nisi fuisset ante praedicta. quem ad modum enim unus idemque homo, si deo mane aliud offerat aliud uespere pro congruentia diurni temporis, non deum mutat nec religionem sicut nec salutem, qui alio modo mane alio uespere salutat, ita in uniuerso tractu saeculorum, cum aliud oblatum est ab antiquis sanctis aliud ab eis, qui nunc sunt, offertur, non humana praesumptione sed auctoritate diuina temporibus congrua sacra mysteria celebrantur, non deus aut religio commutatur.
That sacrifices were distributed in the divine words according to the suitability of times, so that some were made before the manifestation of the New Testament, which is administered from the one true victim of the one priest, that is, from the shed blood of Christ, and another is now offered, suited to this manifestation, by us who, the name now declared, are called Christians, is shown not only in the Gospel writings but also in the prophetic ones. For a change, not of God nor of religion itself but of sacrifices and sacraments, would now seem shamelessly preached had it not been foretold before. For just as one and the same man, if he offers God one thing in the morning and another in the evening according to the suitability of the time of day, does not change God or religion, just as he who greets in one way in the morning and another in the evening does not change his greeting; so in the whole course of the ages, when one thing was offered by the ancient saints and another is offered by those who now live, sacred mysteries suited to the times are celebrated not by human presumption but by divine authority, and neither God nor religion is changed.
Heb 9:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Mal 1:11 (allusion, medium confidence) · Acts 11:26 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: God's word foretold that the sacrifices would change with the coming of Christ's one sacrifice, without any change in God or religion.
- References: Heb 9:12–14; Mal 1:11 (foretelling the new sacrifice); Acts 11:26. The sacrifice “now offered” by Christians is the Eucharist; translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): eloquns → eloquiis; sacnncia → sacrificia.
Topics: Eucharist
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.21 (CSEL 34.2:563; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-21).
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102.22CSEL 34.2:563–564
IV. DE EO QVOD SCRIPTUM EST: IN QVA MENSURA MENSI FUERITIS, REMETIETUR VOBIS. Iam nunc deinde uideamus, quale sit, quod de mensura peccati atque supplicii proposuit sic euangelio calumniatus: Minatur, inquit, Christus sibi non credentibus aeterna supplicia et alibi ait: In qua mensura mensi fueritis, in ea remetietur uobis, satis, inquit, ridicule atque contrarie; nam si ad mensuram redditurus est poenam et omnis mensura circumscripta est fine temporis, quid sibi uolunt minae infiniti supplicii?
IV. On what is written: “With the measure you measure, it will be measured to you again.” Now next let us see what kind of thing it is that he proposed about the measure of sin and punishment, slandering the Gospel thus: “Christ threatens eternal punishments to those who do not believe him, and elsewhere he says, ‘With the measure you measure, it will be measured to you again’: rather ridiculously and contradictorily,” he says; “for if he will render punishment by measure, and every measure is bounded by an end in time, what is the meaning of the threats of infinite punishment?”
Matt 7:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 6:38 (quotation, medium confidence) · Matt 25:46 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: The fourth question claims that Christ's eternal punishment contradicts his saying about being repaid by the same measure.
- Quotations and references: Matt 7:2; Luke 6:38; Matt 25:46.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.22 (CSEL 34.2:563–564; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-22).
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102.23CSEL 34.2:564–565
Istam quaestionem a qualicumque philosopho esse obiectam atque propositam difficile est credere, quippe qui ait: <Omnia mensura circumscribitur tempore, quasi non soleat nisi temporum esse mensura sicut horarum et dierum et annorum. uel sicut dicimus breuem syllabam simplum habere temporis ad syllabam longam. puto enim modios et rabones, urnas et amphoras non temporum esse mensuras. quo modo ergo omnis mensura circumscribitur tempore? nonne ipsi dicunt solem istum sempiternum esse? qui tamen quantus sit ad terram, mensuris geometricis perscrutari audent et renuntiare. quod siue possit siue non possit, constat eum tamen propriam sui orbis habere mensuram, quia et, si comprehendunt, quantus sit, mensuram eius comprehendunt et, si hoc non adsequuntur, mensuram eius utique non comprehendunt nec ideo nulla est, quia homines eam nosse non possunt. potest igitur aliquid et sempiternum esse et certam sui modi habere mensuram. secundum ipsos enim de solis aeternitate locutus sum, ut sua sententia conuincantur atque concedant esse posse aliquid cum mensura sempiternum. ac sic non ideo putent non esse credendum de supplicio sempiterno, quod minatus est Christus, quia idem dixit: In qua mensura mensi fueritis, remetietur uobis.
It is hard to believe that this question was raised and proposed by any kind of philosopher, since he says, “Every measure is bounded by time”, as if measure were usually only of times, like hours, days and years, or as when we say that a short syllable has one unit of time compared with a long syllable. For I think that pecks and bushels, urns and amphorae are not measures of times. How then is every measure bounded by time? Do not they themselves say that this sun is everlasting? And yet they dare to investigate by geometrical measurements how large it is in relation to the earth, and to report it. Whether they can or cannot do this, it is agreed that it has its own measure of its orb; for if they grasp how large it is, they grasp its measure, and if they do not achieve this, they certainly do not grasp its measure; but it is not therefore nothing because men cannot know it. Something can therefore be both everlasting and have a definite measure of its own mode. I spoke of the eternity of the sun according to their view, so that they may be convicted by their own opinion and concede that something can be everlasting with a measure. And so let them not think that what Christ threatened about everlasting punishment is not to be believed because he also said, “With the measure you measure, it will be measured to you again.”
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Matt 7:2 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Not every measure is one of time; even the sun, which pagans think everlasting, has a measure, so eternal punishment can be measured.
- Quotation: Matt 7:2. The digital text has the Latin word “rabones” among the dry measures (perhaps for “arabones” or a corruption); translated as “bushels” by sense.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray digit in the digital text): tempore,1 → tempore,.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.23 (CSEL 34.2:564–565; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-23).
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102.24CSEL 34.2:565–566
Si enim dixisset: (Quod mensi fueritis, hoc metietur uobis), etiam sic non omnino ad eandem rem ex omni parte necesse esset referre sententiam. possumus enim recte dicere: Quod plantaueris, hoc decerpes, quamuis nemo plantet pomum sed lignum, decerpat autem pomum magis quam lignum; sed illud dicimus secundum arboris genus, quia non ficum plantat, unde nucem decerpat. ita dici posset: Quod feceris, patieris, non ut, si stuprum fecerit, stuprum patiatur, sed quod peccato isto fecit legi, hoc ei lex faciat, id est quia legem talia prohibentem de sua uita abstulit, auferat eum etiam ipsa lex de hominum uita, quam regit. item si dixisset: Quantum mensi fueritis, tantum metietur uobis nec sic esset consequens, ut omni modo aequales peccatis poenas intellegere deberemus; neque enim aequalia sunt uerbi gratia triticum et hordeum et profecto dici posset: Quantum mensi fueritis, tantum metietur uobis, hoc est quantum tritici tantum hordei. quod si de doloribus ageretur atque diceretur: Quantum dolorem ingesseritis, tantus ingeretur uobis fieri posset, ut tantus dolor esset quamuis tempore diuturnior, hoc est mora maior, ui par. neque enim, si de duabus lucernis dicamus: Tantum ignis iste caluit, quantum ille ideo falsum erit, quia una earum forte citius extincta est. non itaque, si aliquid secundum aliud tantum est secundum aliud non est tantum, quia non in omni modo tantum est, ideo falsus est modus, in quo tantum est.
For if he had said, “What you have measured, this will be measured to you”, even so it would not be necessary to refer the saying to the same thing in every respect. For we can rightly say, “What you plant, this you will pluck”, though no one plants a fruit but a tree, and plucks fruit rather than a tree; but we say this according to the kind of tree, because one does not plant a fig tree to pluck a nut from it. So it could be said, “What you have done, you will suffer”, not that if someone commits sexual immorality he should suffer sexual immorality, but that what he did to the law by this sin the law should do to him; that is, because he took out of his life the law that forbids such things, the law itself should take him out of the life of men which it governs. Again, if he had said, “As much as you have measured, so much will be measured to you”, even so it would not follow that we must understand penalties equal to sins in every way; for wheat and barley, for example, are not equal, and yet it could be said, “As much as you have measured, so much will be measured to you”, that is, as much barley as wheat. And if it concerned pains and it were said, “As great a pain as you have inflicted, so great a pain will be inflicted on you”, it could be that the pain would be as great, though longer in time, that is, greater in duration and equal in force. For if we say of two lamps, “This fire was as hot as that”, it will not be false because one of them was perhaps put out sooner. So if something is as great in one respect and not as great in another, because it is not as great in every way, the respect in which it is as great is not therefore false.
Gal 6:7 (echo, low confidence)
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Summary: The saying about measure need not mean identical or equal-length punishment; it may be as great in force while longer in duration.
- The illustration of the law putting a sinner to death (for stuprum, “sexual immorality”) is Augustine's own; translated as written. Compare Gal 6:7.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): nnde → unde.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 102.24 (CSEL 34.2:565–566; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/102-1/#p-102-24).
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