Letters 205.1–207.1

Latin text: Goldbacher, CSEL 34, 44, 57 (Latin text: Alois Goldbacher (CSEL 34, 44, 57, 1895–1911), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 1 (1886).

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Chapter 205

205.1CSEL 57:323–324

Quantum ad oculos adtinet corporales, quosdam uidemus nec nouimus, quorum a nobis uita studiaque nesciuntur; quosdam nouimus nec uidemus, quorum nobis cantu et affectus innotuit, in quibus et te adnumeramus; et ideo te magis uidere desideramus, ut in his sis, quos et uidemus et nouimus. nam illi. qui ignoti nostris oculis ingeruntur, non solum desiderabiles non sunt. sed uix tolerabiles sunt, nisi aliquibus signis pulchritudo in eis hominis interioris appareat. quorum autem sicut tuus nobis prius animus intellegendo quam uidendo corpus apparuit, iam quidem nouimus eos, sed ideo etiam uidere desideramus, ut per illud, quod conspicitur oculis, multo iucundius et familiarius eo, quem iam nouimus, amico interiore perfruamur. uerum et hoc de te nobis deus fortasse donabit quietioribus et tranquillioribus. sicut optamus, rebus humanis, ut id honestae caritatis sit potius quam molestae necessitatis. nunc ad ea respondeam, sicut domino adiuuante potuero, quae praeter epistulam in alia chartula a me quaerenda misisti.

As far as the eyes of the body are concerned, some people we see and do not know, since their lives and pursuits are unknown to us; some we know and do not see, whose love and affection have become known to us, and among these we count you too; and so we desire all the more to see you, so that you may be among those whom we both see and know. For those who are thrust before our eyes as strangers are not only not desirable but scarcely tolerable, unless the beauty of the inner man appears in them by some signs. But as for those whose mind, like yours, has appeared to us by understanding before their body was seen, we already know them, but we desire to see them too, so that through what is seen with the eyes we may enjoy much more pleasantly and familiarly the inner friend we already know. But perhaps God will grant us this too in your case, when human affairs are quieter and more tranquil, as we wish, so that it may be a matter of honorable love rather than of troublesome necessity. Now let me answer, as far as I can with the Lord's help, the questions you sent me on another sheet besides the letter.

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Summary: Augustine tells Consentius that he knows him by his mind though not by sight, and turns to answer the questions he sent.

  • Addressed to Consentius, a layman from the Balearic Islands. The word cantu in the digital text (cantu et affectus) is probably a slip for caritas; translated by sense.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.1 (CSEL 57:323–324; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-1).

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205.2CSEL 57:324–325

Quaeris, utrum nunc corpus domini ossa et sanguinem habeat aut reliqua carnis liniamenta. quid, si adderes, utrum etiam uestimenta, nonne augeretur quaestio? qua causa. nisi quia ea, quae in usu uitae huius nostrae corruptibilia nouimus. sine corruptione cogitare uix possumus, cum diuinorum miraculorum quaedam documenta iam data sint, ex quibus liceat coniectare maiora? nam si uestis Israhelitarum per tot annos in heremo sine tritura esse potuit, si morticina pellis calciamentorum tam diu sine labe durauit, potest utique deus quorumlibet corporum, per quantum uoluerit tempus, incorruptam protendere qualitatem. ego proinde domini corpus ita in caelo esse credo, ut erat, quando ascendit in caelum. dixerat autem discipulis, ut in euangelio legimus, de sua resurrectione dubitantibus et illud, quod uidebant, non corpus sed spiritum esse putantibus: Videte manus meas et pedes; palpate et uidete, quia spiritus ossa et carnem non habet, sicut me uidetis habere. sic eorum, cum esset in terra, contrectatus est manibus, sic eorum est, cum iret in caelum, deductus aspectibus. ibi uox angelica sonuit: Sic ueniet, quem ad modum uidistis eum euntem in caelum. fides adsit et nulla quaestio remanebit.

You ask whether the Lord's body now has bones and blood, or the other features of flesh. What if you were to add whether it also has clothing: would the question not grow? For what reason, except that we can scarcely conceive of things without corruption which we know to be corruptible in the use of this life of ours, although certain proofs of divine miracles have already been given, from which one may infer greater ones? For if the clothing of the Israelites could last so many years in the desert without wearing out, if the dead hide of their shoes lasted so long without decay, God can certainly extend the incorrupt condition of any bodies whatever for as long as he wills. I therefore believe that the Lord's body is in heaven as it was when he ascended into heaven. And he had said to his disciples, as we read in the gospel, when they doubted his resurrection and thought that what they saw was not a body but a spirit: “See my hands and feet; handle and see, for a spirit does not have bones and flesh, as you see that I have.” So, while he was on earth, he was handled by their hands; so, when he went into heaven, he was taken away from their sight. There an angelic voice sounded: “He will come in the same way as you saw him going into heaven.” Let faith be present, and no question will remain.

Deut 29:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 24:37–39 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 1:9 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 1:11 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine answers Consentius that Christ's risen body is in heaven as it was when he ascended, with flesh and bones, preserved from corruption by God's power.

  • Deut 29:5 (cf. Deut 8:4); Luke 24:37–39; Acts 1:9, 11.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip: u for n): uestimeuta → uestimenta; ibi uoi angelica → ibi uox angelica.

Topics: Christology, Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.2 (CSEL 57:324–325; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-2).

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205.3CSEL 57:325

nisi forte de sanguine requirendum est, quia, cum dixisset: Palpate et uidete, quia spiritus ossa et carnem non habet, non addidit sanguinem. non ergo et nos addamus inquirere, quod ille non addidit dicere. et de compendio, si placet, finita sit quaestio; fortassis enim accepta occasione sanguinis urgebit nos molestior perscrutator et dicet: Si sanguis, cur non et pituita, cur non et fel flauum et fel nigrum, quibus quattuor humoribus naturam carnis temperari etiam medicinae disciplina testatur? sed quodlibet quisque addat, corruptionem addere caueat, ne suae fidei sanitatem castitatemque corrumpat.

Unless perhaps one must inquire about the blood, since, when he had said, “Handle and see, for a spirit does not have bones and flesh,” he did not add blood. Let us not, then, add an inquiry into what he did not add in speaking. And, if you please, let the question be ended briefly; for perhaps a more troublesome investigator, seizing the occasion of the blood, will press us and say: “If blood, why not phlegm too, why not yellow bile and black bile, the four humors by which, as even medical science testifies, the nature of the flesh is tempered?” But whatever anyone may add, let him beware of adding corruption, lest he corrupt the soundness and purity of his own faith.

Luke 24:39 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine declines to speculate about blood or the bodily humors in Christ's risen body, insisting only that it is free of corruption.

  • Luke 24:39. The four humors of ancient medicine: blood, phlegm, yellow bile, black bile.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.3 (CSEL 57:325; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-3).

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205.4CSEL 57:325–327

Ex consuetudine rerum expertarum inexperta opera diuina infirmitas metitur humana et acutule se garrire arbitratur. cum dicit: Si caro est, et sanguis est; si sanguis, et ceteri humores: si ceteri humores, ergo et corruptio. eo modo diceret: Si flamma est, et ardet; si ardet, et urit; si urit, ergo et uirorum trium in fornacem ignis ab impio rege missorum corpora incendit. si autem hoc in tribus uiris miraculum factum esse non dubitat, quisquis de diuinis operibus recte sapit, cur non credatur, qui fecit illa corpora non posse igne corrumpi, fecisse illud corpus nec igne nec fame nec morbo nec senio nec ulla ui alia, qua solet humana corpora labefactare corruptio? quod si quisquam dicit non carni trium illorum uirorum additam contra ignem incorruptionem, sed ipsi igni detractam corrumpendi facultatem, quid ueremur, ne carnem facere nequiuerit non posse corrumpi, qui fecit ignem non posse corrumpere? nam si illud non de carnis sed de ignis mutatione intellegitur, multo est mirabilius; simul enim et hominum corpora non urebat, ne posset nocere, et ligna fornacis urebat. ut posset ardere. sed qui etiam ista non credunt, nimium de diuina potestate diffidunt nec cum eis uel ad eos nunc sermo nobis est; qui autem ista credunt, ex his etiam illa utcumque coniciant, quae fideliter quaerunt. ualet igitur diuina potentia de ista uisibili atque tractabili natura corporum quibusdam manentibus auferre, quas uoluerit, qualitates ac per hoc ualet etiam membra mortalia formae liniamentis manentibus corruptione uero mortalitatis emortua stabili uigore firmare, ut absit labes, adsit effigies, adsit motio, absit fatigatio, adsit uescendi potestas. absit esuriendi necessitas

Human weakness measures divine works it has not experienced by the habit of things it has experienced, and thinks itself clever in its chatter when it says: “If it is flesh, it has blood too; if blood, the other humors too; if the other humors, then corruption too.” In the same way it might say: “If it is flame, it burns; if it burns, it scorches; if it scorches, then it set fire to the bodies of the three men thrown into the furnace of fire by the ungodly king.” But if no one who thinks rightly about divine works doubts that this miracle was done in the three men, why should it not be believed that he who made those bodies incapable of being corrupted by fire made that body incapable of being corrupted by fire, hunger, disease, old age, or any other force by which corruption commonly undermines human bodies? And if anyone says that incorruptibility against fire was not added to the flesh of those three men, but that the power of corrupting was taken away from the fire itself, why should we fear that he who made fire unable to corrupt could not make flesh unable to be corrupted? For if that is understood as a change not of the flesh but of the fire, it is much more wonderful; for at the same time it did not burn the bodies of the men, so as to be unable to harm them, and it did burn the wood of the furnace, so as to be able to blaze. But those who do not believe even these things distrust the divine power too much, and our discourse now is neither with them nor to them; but let those who believe these things infer from them in some way the things they faithfully inquire about. So the divine power is able, while some qualities of this visible and tangible nature of bodies remain, to take away whatever qualities it wills; and through this it is able also to strengthen mortal members with stable vigor, the features of their form remaining but the corruption of mortality having died away, so that decay is absent while the likeness is present, movement present and fatigue absent, the power of eating present and the necessity of hunger absent.

Dan 3:19–27 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 24:42–43 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Augustine argues from the three young men in the furnace that God can preserve the features of a body while removing all corruption from it.

  • Dan 3:19–27; Luke 24:42–43 (the risen Christ eats).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray mark from the digitization): absit; esuriendi → absit esuriendi.

Topics: Christology, Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.4 (CSEL 57:325–327; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-4).

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205.5CSEL 57:327

Quod ergo legitur apud apostolum: Caro et sanguis regnum dei non possidebunt, soluitur quidem quaestio etiam isto modo, quem tu commemorasti, ut carnis et sanguinis nomine opera carnis et sanguinis intellegantur; uerum, quia non de operibus sed de modo resurrectionis loquebatur apostolus et eam quaestionem disputando uersabat, melius eo loco intellegitur caro et sanguis pro corruptione carnis et sanguinis posita. si enim nomen carnis significat operationem. cur non significet etiam corruptionem, sicut dictum est: Omnis caro faenum? nam et hic ipsa corruptibilitas significata est; sequitur enim: Et omnis honor carnis ut flos faeni: faenum aruit. flos decidit. numquidnam hoc etiam illi carni competit, de qua dictum est: Palpate et uidete. quia spiritus ossa et carnem non habet, sicut me uidetis habere? nam quo modo arescat aut decidat, cum scriptum sit, quod Christus surgens a mortuis iam non moriatur et mors ei ultra non dominetur?

As for what we read in the apostle, “Flesh and blood will not possess the kingdom of God,” the question is indeed resolved also in the way you mentioned, that by the name of flesh and blood the works of flesh and blood are to be understood; but since the apostle was speaking not of works but of the manner of the resurrection, and was dealing with that question in his argument, in that place flesh and blood are better understood as put for the corruption of flesh and blood. For if the word “flesh” signifies activity, why should it not also signify corruption, as it is said, “All flesh is grass”? For here too corruptibility itself is signified; for it continues, “And all the glory of flesh is like the flower of grass; the grass withers, the flower falls.” Does this apply also to that flesh of which it was said, “Handle and see, for a spirit does not have bones and flesh, as you see that I have”? For how could it wither or fall, when it is written that Christ, rising from the dead, dies no more, and death no longer has dominion over him?

1 Cor 15:50 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 40:6–7 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Pet 1:24 (quotation, medium confidence) · Luke 24:39 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 6:9 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine explains that in 1 Corinthians 15:50 "flesh and blood" means the corruption of flesh, not its substance, since Christ's risen flesh cannot wither.

  • 1 Cor 15:50; Isa 40:6–7 (1 Pet 1:24); Luke 24:39; Rom 6:9.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip: m for rn; OCR slip: split word): san gu is → sanguis; corruptione camis → corruptione carnis.

Topics: Eschatology, Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.5 (CSEL 57:327; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-5).

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205.6CSEL 57:327–328

Proinde ipsam apostolicam sententiam desuper inspice totamque considera. cum resurrectionem mortuorum persuadere uellet eis, qui dicebant, quia resurrectio mortuorum non est, Christi resurrectione praemissa in exemplum inter cetera, quae ibi disseruit, intulit sibi quaestionem atque ait: Sed dicet aliquis: Quo modo resurgent mortui? quo autem corpore uenient? id est quali corpore. deinde adhibens documenta seminum: Stulte, inquit, tu quod seminas, non uiuificatur, nisi moriatur, et quod seminas, non corpus, quod futurum est, seminas sed nudum granum fere tritici aut alicuius ceterorum; deus autem illi dat corpus, quo modo uoluerit, et uni cuique seminum proprium corpus. secundum hoc ergo dixerat: Non corpus, quod futurum est, seminas. neque enim non triticum erit ex tritico; sed, quia nemo seminat herbam uel stipulam et multiplicia in palea tegimenta granorum, cum quibus tamen semina exsurgunt, ideo ait: Sed nudum granum hinc uolens ostendere, quia, si deus potest addere, quod non erat in nudo semine, multo magis potest reparare, quod erat in hominis corpore.

So look at this saying of the apostle from the beginning, and consider it whole. When he wished to persuade of the resurrection of the dead those who said that there is no resurrection of the dead, having first put forward the resurrection of Christ as an example, among the other things he set out there he raised a question for himself and said: “But someone will say, How do the dead rise? And with what body do they come?” that is, with what kind of body. Then, bringing in the proofs of seeds, he says: “Foolish one, what you sow is not brought to life unless it dies; and what you sow is not the body that is to be, but a bare grain, perhaps of wheat or of some other kind; but God gives it a body as he wills, and to each of the seeds its own body.” In this sense, then, he had said, “You do not sow the body that is to be.” For it is not that wheat will not come from wheat; but since no one sows the blade or the stalk or the many coverings of the grains in the chaff, with which the seeds nonetheless rise up, he says “but a bare grain,” wishing to show by this that, if God can add what was not in the bare seed, much more can he restore what was in the human body.

1 Cor 15:12 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:35–38 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine explains Paul's seed analogy: if God can add to a bare seed what it lacked, he can much more restore what belonged to the human body.

  • 1 Cor 15:12, 35–38.

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.6 (CSEL 57:327–328; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-6).

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205.7CSEL 57:328–329

Iam uero, quod adiungit, ad differentiam pertinet resurgentium propter diuersas glorias fidelium atque sanctorum. non omnis, inquit, caro eadem caro, alia quidem hominum alia autem caro pecorum alia uolucrum alia piscium. et corpora caelestia et corpora terrestria; sed alia est caelestium gloria et alia terrestrium. et alia gloria solis et alia gloria lunae et alia gloria stellarum; stella enim ab stella differt in gloria. sic et resurrectio mortuorum. in his omnibus iste sensus est: si genera carnis, cum sint cuncta mortalia, differunt tamen inter se pro diuersitatibus animantium et si corpora, cum sint omnia uisibilia, differunt tamen pro diuersitatibus locorum, unde alia est caelestium gloria alia terrestrium, et si in locis sublimibus, cum sint cuncta caelestia, differunt etiam ipsa claritatibus luminum, non mirum est, quod in resurrectione mortuorum distabit gloria meritorum.

And what he adds concerns the difference among those who rise, because of the different glories of the faithful and the saints. “Not all flesh,” he says, “is the same flesh, but there is one flesh of men, another of cattle, another of birds, another of fish. There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies; but the glory of the heavenly is one, and that of the earthly another. There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory. So also is the resurrection of the dead.” In all these the sense is this: if the kinds of flesh, though all are mortal, nevertheless differ among themselves according to the diversity of living things; and if bodies, though all are visible, nevertheless differ according to the diversity of their places, so that the glory of the heavenly is one and that of the earthly another; and if in the lofty places, though all are heavenly, they too differ in the brightness of their lights; it is no wonder that in the resurrection of the dead the glory of merits will differ.

1 Cor 15:39–42 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine interprets Paul's comparisons of flesh and heavenly bodies as showing that the risen will differ in glory according to their merits.

  • 1 Cor 15:39–42.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip: l for I): lam uero → Iam uero.

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.7 (CSEL 57:328–329; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-7).

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205.8CSEL 57:329–330

Hinc iam uenit ad illud, quod communiter habet omnis caro, quae ad uitam resurgit aeternam, et dicit: Seminatur in corruptione, surget in incorruptione; seminatur in contumelia, surget in gloria; seminatur in infirmitate, surget in uirtute; seminatur corpus animale, surget corpus spiritale. in his uerbis apostoli numquid fas est putare melius corpora nostra resurrectura quam Christi, cum de illo sit propositum exemplum, quod fideliter intendere et per eius gratiam sperare debeamus? ac per hoc nullo modo potuit corpus Christi cum corruptione resurgere, si nostrum in incorruptione resurrecturum promittitur, nec potuit illud sine gloria, si nostrum resurget in gloria: quae autem gloria, ubi adhuc corruptio? nimis itaque absurdum est, ut credamus illud corpus et in infirmitate seminatum esse, id est mortificatum et in infirmitate resurrexisse, cum corpus nostrum seminetur in infirmitate, resurgat in uirtute et dicat idem apostolus de Christo: Etsi crucifixus est ex infirmitate, sed uiuit in uirtute dei. quis uero tam absurde sapiat, ut credat illud corpus animale seminatum, animale resuscitatum, si nostrum seminatur animale, surget spiritale?

From here he comes to what all flesh that rises to eternal life has in common, and says: “It is sown in corruption, it will rise in incorruption; it is sown in dishonor, it will rise in glory; it is sown in weakness, it will rise in power; it is sown an animal body, it will rise a spiritual body.” In these words of the apostle, is it right to think that our bodies will rise better than Christ's, when the example set before us is from him, to which we ought faithfully to look and for which we ought to hope through his grace? And so the body of Christ could in no way have risen with corruption, if ours is promised to rise in incorruption; nor could it have risen without glory, if ours will rise in glory; and what glory is there where there is still corruption? It is therefore quite absurd for us to believe that that body was both sown in weakness, that is, put to death, and rose in weakness, when our body is sown in weakness and rises in power, and the same apostle says of Christ, “Though he was crucified out of weakness, yet he lives by the power of God.” And who would think so absurdly as to believe that that body was sown animal and raised animal, if ours is sown animal and will rise spiritual?

1 Cor 15:42–44 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 13:4 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine argues that since believers will rise incorruptible, glorious, powerful, and spiritual, Christ's own risen body cannot be less.

  • 1 Cor 15:42–44; 2 Cor 13:4. “Animal body” renders corpus animale (Greek psychikon), the body animated by the soul, as distinct from the “spiritual body”.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip: e for c): Hine iam → Hinc iam; CUDI corruptione → cum corruptione.

Topics: Eschatology, Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.8 (CSEL 57:329–330; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-8).

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205.9CSEL 57:330–331

Constat itaque neque ullo modo dubitandum est corpus Christi, quod, licet corruptionem putredinis in sepulcro non uiderit, unde scriptum est: Nec dabis sanctum tuum uidere corruptionem, clauis tamen et lancea perrumpi potuit, nunc omnino in incorruptione consistere et, quod in contumelia passionis mortisque seminatum est, nunc esse in gloria uitae aeternae et, quod ex infirmitate potuit crucifigi, nunc in uirtute regnare et, quod erat corpus animale, quoniam ex Adam sumptum est, nunc esse spiritale, quoniam spiritui iam inseparabiliter copulatum est. cum enim uellet apostolus de corpore animali adhibere testimonium scripturarum, illud posuit, quod in Genesi legitur: Si est, inquit, corpus animale, est et spiritale; sic et scriptum est: Factus est primus Adam in animam uiuentem uel in animam uiuam. recolis certe, quem ad modum scriptum sit: Et insufflauit deus in faciem eius flatum uitae et factus est homo in animam uiuam. dictum est autem etiam de animalibus: Producat terra animam uiuam. intellegitur ergo corpus animale dici simile ceteris animalibus propter mortis dissolutionem et corruptionem, quae cotidie cibo reficitur et postea superata animantis compago dissoluitur, spiritale autem corpus. quod iam cum spiritu inmortale est.

It is agreed, then, and in no way to be doubted, that the body of Christ, which, although it did not see the corruption of decay in the tomb (whence it is written, “Nor will you let your Holy One see corruption”), could nevertheless be pierced by nails and a spear, now exists entirely in incorruption; and that what was sown in the dishonor of the passion and death is now in the glory of eternal life; and that what could be crucified out of weakness now reigns in power; and that what was an animal body, since it was taken from Adam, is now spiritual, since it is now inseparably joined to the spirit. For when the apostle wished to bring forward the testimony of the Scriptures about the animal body, he cited what we read in Genesis: “If there is an animal body,” he says, “there is also a spiritual one; so also it is written, The first Adam became a living soul,” or “a live soul.” You surely recall how it is written: “And God breathed into his face the breath of life, and man became a living soul.” And it was said also of the animals: “Let the earth bring forth the living soul.” So the animal body is understood to be so called because it is like the other animals in the dissolution and corruption of death; it is refreshed daily with food and afterward, when the living frame is overcome, it is dissolved; but the spiritual body is one that, together with the spirit, is now immortal.

Ps 16:10 (15:10 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · John 19:34 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:44–45 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 2:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:24 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine concludes that Christ's body, once mortal and taken from Adam, is now incorruptible, glorious, and spiritual, and explains the difference between an animal and a spiritual body.

  • Ps 16:10 (Acts 2:27); John 19:34; 1 Cor 15:44–45; Gen 2:7; Gen 1:24.

Topics: Christology, Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.9 (CSEL 57:330–331; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-9).

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205.10CSEL 57:331–332

Quamuis nonnulli arbitrentur tunc fieri corpus spiritale, cum iam et ipsum corpus mutatur in spiritum et, quod homo erat ex corpore et spiritu, utrumque ac totum spiritus erit, quasi dixerit apostolus: Seminatur corpus, surget spiritus. dixit autem: Seminatur corpus animale, surget corpus spiritale. proinde, sicut animale corpus non est anima sed corpus, ita et spiritale corpus non spiritum debemus putare sed corpus. quis porro audeat opinari uel Christi corpus non spiritale resurrexisse uel, si spiritale surrexit, non iam corpus fuisse sed spiritum, cum hanc opinionem discipulorum refellat, ubi, cum eum uidentes existimarent se spiritum uidere, ait: Palpate et uidete, quia spiritus ossa et carnem non habet, sicut me uidetis habere? iam igitur illa caro spiritale erat corpus nec tamen spiritus erat sed corpus nulla ulterius morte ab anima resoluendum atque separandum sicut corpus animale, quale animatum est dei flatu, cum factus est homo in animam uiuam, etiam ipsum ex animali spiritale sine mortis interuentu futurum, nisi transgressio praecepti prius commisso peccato infligeret poenam, quam deus seruatae iustitiae daret coronam.

Some, however, think that the body becomes spiritual when the body itself is also changed into spirit, and what man was, of body and spirit, will be wholly and entirely spirit, as though the apostle had said, “It is sown a body, it will rise a spirit.” But he said, “It is sown an animal body, it will rise a spiritual body.” Accordingly, just as the animal body is not soul but body, so too we must think the spiritual body is not spirit but body. And who would dare to think either that Christ's body did not rise spiritual, or, if it rose spiritual, that it was no longer a body but a spirit, when he refutes this opinion of the disciples where, seeing him, they thought they were seeing a spirit, and he said, “Handle and see, for a spirit does not have bones and flesh, as you see that I have”? So that flesh was already a spiritual body, and yet it was not spirit but body, never again to be loosed and separated from the soul by any death; just as the animal body, such as was animated by the breath of God when man became a living soul, would itself have become spiritual from animal without the intervention of death, had not the transgression of the commandment, sin having first been committed, inflicted a penalty before God gave the crown for righteousness kept.

1 Cor 15:44 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:37–39 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 2:7 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine rejects the view that the spiritual body becomes spirit, holding that Christ's risen flesh is a true body, and that Adam would have passed to a spiritual body without death had he not sinned.

  • 1 Cor 15:44; Luke 24:37–39; Gen 2:7.

Topics: Christology, Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.10 (CSEL 57:331–332; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-10).

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205.11CSEL 57:332–333

Unde dominus Christus per nos ad nos uenit, cum peccatores iustus inuenit, per stratum quodam modo humilitatis nostrae sed non cum morbo iniquitatis nostrae. nam per animale nobis, hoc est per mortale corpus apparuit, qui utique, si uoluisset, cum corpore inmortali primitus aduenisset. sed quia nos humilitate filii dei sanari oportebat, usque ad nostram infirmitatem descendit et fidei nostrae meritum ac praemium uirtute suae resurrectionis ostendit. ideo sequitur apostolus et dicit: Nouissimus Adam in spiritum uiuificantem. siue intellegatur primus Adam, qui de puluere ante formatus est, nouissimus autem Adam, qui de uirgine procreatus est, siue in unoquoque homine utrumque compleatur, ut primus Adam sit homo in corpore mortali, nouissimus Adam idem ipse in corpore inmortali, tamen inter animam uiuentem et spiritum uiuificantem hoc interesse uoluit, ut illic sit corpus animale hic spiritale. anima quippe in corpore animali uiuit quidem, sed non uiuificat usque ad auferendam corruptionem; in corpore uero spiritali, quoniam perfecte adhaerens domino unus spiritus est, sic uiuificat, ut spiritale corpus efficiat absumens omnem corruptionem, nullam metuens separationem.

Hence the Lord Christ came to us by way of us, when he, the righteous one, found us sinners: by the path, as it were, of our lowliness, but not with the disease of our iniquity. For he appeared to us through an animal, that is, a mortal, body, though he could certainly have come at first with an immortal body if he had wished. But since we had to be healed by the humility of the Son of God, he came down even to our weakness and showed the merit and reward of our faith by the power of his resurrection. Therefore the apostle continues and says: “The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.” Whether the first Adam is understood as the one formed earlier from the dust and the last Adam as the one born of the Virgin, or whether both are fulfilled in each human being, so that the first Adam is man in a mortal body and the last Adam the same man in an immortal body, still he meant that between a living soul and a life-giving spirit there is this difference, that in the one case there is an animal body, in the other a spiritual one. For the soul in an animal body does indeed live, but does not give life to the point of taking away corruption; but in a spiritual body, since, cleaving perfectly to the Lord, it is one spirit, it so gives life as to make the body spiritual, consuming all corruption and fearing no separation.

1 Cor 15:45 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 6:17 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 2:7–8 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Augustine explains that Christ took a mortal body to heal us by humility, and interprets the first and last Adam as the living soul and the life-giving spirit.

  • 1 Cor 15:45; 1 Cor 6:17; Phil 2:7–8.

Topics: Christology, Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.11 (CSEL 57:332–333; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-11).

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205.12CSEL 57:333–334

Proinde sequitur: Sed non prius, quod spiritale est, sed quod animale, postea spiritale. primus homo de terra terrenus, secundus homo de caelo caelestis. qualis terrenus, tales et terreni et, qualis caelestis, tales et caelestes. sicut portauimus imaginem terreni, portemus et imaginem eius, qui de caelo est. quid est: Qualis terrenus, tales et terreni nisi mortales ex mortali? et quid est: Qualis caelestis, tales et caelestes nisi inmortales per inmortalem? illud per Adam hoc per Christum. dominus enim ad hoc terrenus factus est, cum esset caelestis, ut eos, qui terreni erant faceret caelestes, hoc est ideo ex inmortali mortalis factus est adsumendo serui formam, non domini mutando naturam, ut eos, qui mortales erant, faceret inmortales impertiendo dominicam gratiam, non seruilem iniuriam retinendo.

Accordingly he continues: “But it is not the spiritual that is first but the animal, and afterward the spiritual. The first man was from the earth, earthly; the second man is from heaven, heavenly. As was the earthly, so are those who are earthly; and as is the heavenly, so are those who are heavenly. Just as we have borne the image of the earthly, let us also bear the image of him who is from heaven.” What does “As was the earthly, so are those who are earthly” mean, if not mortals from a mortal? And what does “As is the heavenly, so are those who are heavenly” mean, if not immortals through an immortal? The one through Adam, the other through Christ. For the Lord, though he was heavenly, became earthly for this purpose, that he might make heavenly those who were earthly; that is, from immortal he became mortal by taking the form of a servant, not by changing the nature of the Lord, so that he might make immortal those who were mortal by imparting the grace of the Lord, not by keeping the injury of the servant.

1 Cor 15:46–49 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:7 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine interprets the earthly and heavenly man as mortals through Adam and immortals through Christ, who became mortal without changing his divine nature.

  • 1 Cor 15:46–49 (Augustine's text reads “let us bear”); Phil 2:7.

Topics: Christology, Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.12 (CSEL 57:333–334; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-12).

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205.13CSEL 57:334

Cum igitur de resurrectione corporis apostolus disputans doceret nostra corpora futura ex corruptibilibus incorruptibilia, ex contemptibilibus gloriosa, ex infirmis fortia, ex animalibus spiritalia, hoc est ex mortalibus inmortalia, subiecit, unde agitur, atque ait: Hoc enim dico, fratres, quia caro et sanguis regnum dei possidere non possunt. et ne quisquam putaret secundum substantiam carnis hoc apostolum definisse, aperuit, quid diceret, subiungendo: Neque corruptio incorruptionem possidebit, tamquam diceret: Quod dixi: Caro et sanguis regnum dei non possidebunt, ideo dixi, quia corruptio incorruptionem non possidebit). hoc ergo loco nomine carnis et sanguinis corruptionem mortalitatis intellegi uoluit.

So when the apostle, discussing the resurrection of the body, had taught that our bodies will become incorruptible from corruptible, glorious from contemptible, strong from weak, spiritual from animal, that is, immortal from mortal, he added the point at issue and said: “For this I say, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot possess the kingdom of God.” And lest anyone should think that the apostle had defined this according to the substance of the flesh, he made clear what he meant by adding: “Nor will corruption possess incorruption,” as though he were saying: “When I said, ‘Flesh and blood will not possess the kingdom of God,’ I said it because corruption will not possess incorruption.” In this place, then, he meant the corruption of mortality to be understood by the name of flesh and blood.

1 Cor 15:50 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine shows that Paul's added phrase "nor will corruption possess incorruption" explains "flesh and blood" as mortal corruption.

  • 1 Cor 15:50.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): ei contemptibilibus → ex contemptibilibus.

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.13 (CSEL 57:334; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-13).

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205.14CSEL 57:334–335

Denique, tamquam ei diceretur: Quo modo caro erit et caro non erit? caro quippe erit, quoniam dominus post resurrectionem ait: Palpate et uidete, quia spiritus ossa et carnem non habet, sicut me uidetis habere, caro autem non erit, quoniam caro et sanguis regnum dei non possidebunt, exponit, quid dixerit, adiciens: Ecce mysterium dico uobis; omnes quidem resurgemus - uel, sicut Graeci codices habent, omnes quidem dormiemus, non tamen omnes inmutabimur. hanc inmutationem utrum in deterius an in melius intellegi uoluerit, inferiora demonstrant. in atomo, inquit, hoc est in puncto temporis, quod diuidi non potest, in ictu oculi, hoc est in summa celeritate, in nouissima tuba, hoc est in nouissimo signo, quod dabitur, ut ista compleantur; canet enim tuba, inquit. et mortui resurgent incorrupti et nos commutabimur. ergo istam commutationem in melius sine dubitatione oportet intellegi, quia omnes et iusti et iniusti resurrecturi sunt sed, sicut dominus in euangelio loquitur, qui bene fecerunt, in resurrectionem uitae, qui male egerunt. in resurrectionem iudicii, iudicium appellans poenam sempiternam, sicut alio loco: Qui non credit, inquit, iam iudicatus est. proinde illi, qui ad iudicium resurrecturi sunt, non commutabuntur in illam incorruptelam, quae nec doloris corruptionem pati potest; illa namque fidelium est atque sanctorum, isti uero perpetua corruptione cruciabuntur, quia ignis eorum non extinguetur et uermis eorum non morietur.

Then, as though it were said to him, “How will there be flesh and not be flesh?” (for there will be flesh, since the Lord said after the resurrection, “Handle and see, for a spirit does not have bones and flesh, as you see that I have”; but there will not be flesh, since flesh and blood will not possess the kingdom of God), he explains what he said, adding: “Behold, I tell you a mystery: we shall all rise” (or, as the Greek manuscripts have it, “we shall all sleep”), “but we shall not all be changed.” Whether he meant this change to be understood for the worse or for the better, what follows shows. “In an atom,” he says, that is, in a point of time that cannot be divided; “in the twinkling of an eye,” that is, with the utmost speed; “at the last trumpet,” that is, at the last signal that will be given for these things to be fulfilled; “for the trumpet will sound,” he says, “and the dead will rise incorrupt, and we shall be changed.” So this change must without doubt be understood as for the better, because all, both righteous and unrighteous, will rise, but, as the Lord says in the gospel, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment, calling eternal punishment “judgment,” as in another place he says, “He who does not believe is already judged.” Accordingly, those who will rise to judgment will not be changed into that incorruption which cannot suffer even the corruption of pain; for that belongs to the faithful and the saints, while these will be tormented with perpetual corruption, because their fire will not be quenched and their worm will not die.

Luke 24:39 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:51–52 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:29 (quotation, high confidence) · John 3:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 66:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Mark 9:48 (quotation, medium confidence)

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Summary: Augustine explains that all will rise, but only the righteous will be changed into incorruption, while the wicked rise to everlasting torment.

  • Luke 24:39; 1 Cor 15:50–52 (Augustine notes the Greek reading “we shall all sleep”); John 5:29; John 3:18; Isa 66:24 (Mark 9:48). A leaked apparatus note in the digital text is removed by a logged correction.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (leaked apparatus note and OCR slip (inferioa)): 22 tamen om. C inferioa demonstrant. → inferiora demonstrant..

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.14 (CSEL 57:334–335; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-14).

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205.15CSEL 57:335–336

Quid sibi ergo uult ista distinctio: Et mortui resurgent incorrupti et nos commutabimur, nisi quia omnes incorrupti resurgent, sed ex his iusti etiam inmutabuntur in illam incorruptelam. cui omnino nulla possit nocere corruptio? ac per hoc, qui in eam non commutabuntur, incorrupti quidem resurgent integritate membrorum sed tamen corrumpendi dolore poenarum, cum audierint: Ite in ignem aeternum, qui paratus est diabolo et angelis eius. a quo auditu malo iustus non timebit. de illa uero commutatione iustorum cum dixisset: Nos commutabimur, tamquam quaereremus, quo modo istud fiat uel qualis illa commutatio futura sit, adiungit et dicit: Oportet enim corruptibile hoc induere incorruptelam et mortale hoc induere inmortalitatem. non, ut opinor, dubitandum est secundum hoc dictum: Caro et sanguis regnum dei non possidebunt, quia non ibi erit corruptio et mortalitas carnis et sanguinis; secundum has enim qualitates hoc loco carnem et sanguinem nuncupauit.

What, then, does this distinction mean, “And the dead will rise incorrupt, and we shall be changed,” if not that all will rise incorrupt, but of these the righteous will also be changed into that incorruption which no corruption at all can harm? And so those who will not be changed into it will indeed rise incorrupt in the wholeness of their limbs, but still to be corrupted by the pain of punishments, when they hear, “Go into the eternal fire, which was prepared for the devil and his angels.” The righteous man will not fear this evil hearing. And as for that change of the righteous, when he had said, “We shall be changed,” as though we were asking how this would happen or what kind of change it would be, he adds and says: “For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal put on immortality.” In my opinion, it is not to be doubted that it is in this sense that it was said, “Flesh and blood will not possess the kingdom of God,” because there will not be there the corruption and mortality of flesh and blood; for in this place he called flesh and blood by these qualities.

1 Cor 15:52–53 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 25:41 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 112:7 (111:7 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:50 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine explains that all will rise with whole bodies, but only the righteous will put on incorruption and immortality, while the wicked remain subject to the pain of punishment.

  • 1 Cor 15:52–53; Matt 25:41; Ps 112:7; 1 Cor 15:50.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray hyphen from the digitization): -Quid sibi → Quid sibi; carnem ł)t sanguinem → carnem et sanguinem.

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.15 (CSEL 57:335–336; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-15).

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205.16CSEL 57:336–337

Quocirca, ut aliquid exempli gratia ponam, quod interim occurrit, sicut scriptum est: Ne forte temptauerit uos, qui temptat, et inanis sit labor noster — atque hic intellegitur diabolus. tamquam deus omnino non temptet, de quo alio loco scriptura dicit: Ipse autem neminem temptat; nec contraria est ista sententia ei. qua dicitur: Temptat uos dominus deus uester, sed soluitur quaestio, cum uocabulum temptationis diuersas intellegentias habet eo quod alia sit temptatio deceptionis alia temptatio probationis: secundum illam non intellegitur, qui temptat, nisi diabolus. secundum hanc uero temptat deus —, ita, cum dicitur caro possidebit regnum dei et caro non possidebit regnum dei etiam huius nominis intellegentia discernatur et nulla erit quaestio. quoniam caro secundum substantiam, secundum quam dictum est: Spiritus ossa et carnem non habet, sicut me uidetis habere, possidet regnum dei, caro autem curo secundum corruptionem intellegitur, non possidebit; hoc enim expositum est, cum diceretur: Caro et sanguis regnum dei non possidebunt, in eo, quod continuo additum est: Neque corruptio incorruptionem possidebit, sicut satis, quantum arbitror. disseruimus.

Therefore, to give an example that occurs to me for the moment: as it is written, “Lest perhaps the tempter has tempted you and our labor be in vain,” and here the devil is understood, as though God does not tempt at all, of whom Scripture says in another place, “He himself tempts no one”; and yet this statement is not contrary to the one in which it is said, “The Lord your God tests you”; but the question is resolved, since the word “temptation” has different meanings, in that the temptation of deception is one thing and the temptation of testing another: in the former sense the tempter is understood to be none but the devil, but in the latter God tempts; so, when it is said, “Flesh will possess the kingdom of God,” and “Flesh will not possess the kingdom of God,” let the meaning of this word too be distinguished, and there will be no question. For flesh in its substance, in the sense in which it was said, “A spirit does not have bones and flesh, as you see that I have,” possesses the kingdom of God; but flesh understood in the sense of corruption will not possess it. For this was explained, when it was said, “Flesh and blood will not possess the kingdom of God,” by what was immediately added: “Nor will corruption possess incorruption,” as we have, I think, sufficiently discussed.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

1 Thess 3:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Jas 1:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Deut 13:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:39 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:50 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine illustrates by the two senses of "temptation" how flesh in substance will inherit the kingdom while flesh as corruption will not.

  • 1 Thess 3:5; Jas 1:13; Deut 13:3; Luke 24:39; 1 Cor 15:50. The word curo in the digital text (caro autem curo secundum corruptionem) appears to be a slip and is not translated.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray hyphen from the digitization): eo -quod → eo quod.

Topics: Eschatology, Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.16 (CSEL 57:336–337; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-16).

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205.17CSEL 57:337–338

Quod autem quaeris, utrum singillatim a creatore deo corporum liniamenta formentur, non te mouebit, si, quantum potest humana mens, potentiam diuinae operationis intellegas. quo modo enim negare poterimus deum etiam nunc operari cuncta, quae creantur, cum dominus dicat: Pater meus usque nunc operatur? unde illa cessatio septimi diei ab ipsis naturis condendis intellegenda est facta, non ab earum administratione, quae conditae referuntur. cum ergo natura rerum a creatore administratur et per ordines praefinitis locis et temporibus suis cuncta nascuntur, deus usque nunc operatur. nam si deus nunc ista non format, quo modo legitur: Priusquam te formarem in utero, noui te? quo modo etiam accipi potest: Quod si faenum agri, quod hodie est et cras in clibanum mittitur, deus sic uestit? nisi forte credendum est faenum a deo uestiri et a deo corpora non formari. cum enim dixit uestit, non de praeterita ordinatione sed de praesenti operatione satis indicat. unde est etiam illud apostoli de seminibus, quod supra commemoraui: Non, inquit, corpus, quod futurum est, seminas sed nudum granum fere tritici aut alicuius ceterorum; deus autem illi dat corpus, quo modo uoluerit. non dixit (dedit) aut disposuit sed dat, ut creatorem intellegas efficaciam sapientiae suae rebus, quae cotidie suis temporibus oriuntur. condendis adhibere. de qua sapientia dictum est: Pertendit a fine usque in finem fortiter et - non dixit disposuit sed — disponit omnia suauiter. multum est autem uel tenuiter sapere, quo modo commutabilia et temporalia non commutabilibus et temporalibus creatoris motibus sed aeterna et stabili uirtute condantur.

As to your question whether the features of bodies are formed individually by God the Creator, it will not trouble you if you understand, as far as the human mind can, the power of the divine working. For how could we deny that God works even now all the things that are created, when the Lord says, “My Father is working until now”? Hence the rest of the seventh day must be understood as a rest from creating natures themselves, not from governing those that are recorded as created. So since the nature of things is governed by the Creator, and all things are born in their orders, in their predetermined places and times, God is working until now. For if God does not now form these things, how do we read, “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you”? How also can this be taken: “If God so clothes the grass of the field, which is today and tomorrow is thrown into the oven”? Unless perhaps it is to be believed that grass is clothed by God and bodies are not formed by God! For when he said “clothes,” he indicates clearly enough that he speaks not of a past ordering but of a present working. Hence also that saying of the apostle about seeds which I mentioned above: “You do not sow the body that is to be,” he says, “but a bare grain, perhaps of wheat or of some other kind; but God gives it a body as he wills.” He did not say “gave” or “arranged,” but “gives,” so that you may understand that the Creator applies the efficacy of his wisdom to creating the things that arise daily in their own times. Of this wisdom it was said, “It reaches mightily from end to end and” (he did not say “arranged,” but) “arranges all things sweetly.” But it is a great thing to understand even slightly how changeable and temporal things are created not by changeable and temporal movements of the Creator but by an eternal and stable power.

John 5:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 2:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Jer 1:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 6:30 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:37–38 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine affirms that God still forms each body individually, since he continues to work in governing creation, as Scripture shows.

  • John 5:17; Gen 2:2; Jer 1:5; Matt 6:30; 1 Cor 15:37–38; Wis 8:1 (Wisdom of Solomon is outside the 66 books).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip: split word): sed d at, → sed dat,.

Extrabiblical texts: Wis 8:1 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.17 (CSEL 57:337–338; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-17).

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205.18CSEL 57:338–339

De illo sane. quod percontandum putasti, utrum baptizati omnes, si absque paenitentia diuersis criminibus inretiti de corpore exierint, ueniam quolibet tempore consecuturi sint, librum non paruae quantitatis iam scripsi, quem si describere curaueris, fortasse nihil ulterius hinc requires.

As for what you thought should be asked, whether all the baptized, if they leave the body entangled in various crimes without repentance, will obtain pardon at some time, I have already written a book of no small size; if you take care to have it copied, perhaps you will need to ask nothing further on this.

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Summary: Augustine refers Consentius to his book on whether baptized persons dying unrepentant in grave sin will eventually be pardoned.

  • The book is On Faith and Works (De fide et operibus).

Topics: Baptism, Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.18 (CSEL 57:338–339; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-18).

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205.19CSEL 57:339–340

Vis etiam per me scire, utrum dei flatus ille in Adam idem Ipse sit anima. breuiter respondeo: aut ipse est aut ipso anima facta est. sed et si ipse est, factus est. de anima quippe loquitur per Esaiam prophetam deus, ubi dicit: Omnem flatum ego feci, quod sequentia satis indicant; sequitur enim: Propter peccatum modicum quid contristaui illum, id est ipsum flatum, et cetera, quae nisi de anima humana intellegi nequeunt. in hac enim quaestione maxime cauendum est, ne anima non a deo facta natura sed ipsius dei substantia tamquam unigenitus filius, quod est uerbum eius, aut aliqua eius particula esse credatur, tamquam illa natura atque substantia, qua deus est, quicquid est, commutabilis esse possit, quod esse animam nemo non sentit, qui se habere animam sentit. Cum ista dictarem, perlator iam uentum expectans me uehementer, ut nauigaret, urguebat. itaque, si quid hic incondite atque inculte dictum legeris uel si totum ita esse perspexeris, doctrinae da operam, linguae ueniam.

You also wish to learn from me whether that breath of God in Adam is itself the soul. I answer briefly: either it is the soul, or the soul was made from it. But even if it is the soul, it was made. For God speaks of the soul through the prophet Isaiah, where he says, “I have made every breath,” as what follows shows clearly enough; for it continues, “Because of sin I grieved him a little,” that is, that very breath, and the rest, which can only be understood of the human soul. For in this question one must above all beware lest the soul be believed to be not a nature made by God but the very substance of God, like the only-begotten Son, who is his Word, or some particle of him; as though that nature and substance by which God is whatever he is could be changeable, which the soul is, as everyone perceives who perceives that he has a soul. While I was dictating this, the bearer, already waiting for the wind, was pressing me hard so that he might sail. So, if you read anything here said without order or polish, or if you perceive the whole to be so, attend to the teaching and pardon the language.

Gen 2:7 (allusion, high confidence) · Isa 57:16–17 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine answers that the breath God breathed into Adam either is the soul or made it, but in either case the soul is created and not part of God's substance.

  • Gen 2:7; Isa 57:16–17 (LXX).

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 205.19 (CSEL 57:339–340; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-205-19).

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Chapter 206

206.1CSEL 57:340–341

Quotienscumque a me petunt homines, ut eos tuae benignitati fideique commendem, si non facio, non mihi recte uideor de tua uel erga opis indigos misericordia uel erga nos beniuolentia iudicare. itaque facio et maxime ministros Christi, qui ecclesiae curam gerunt, cuius te coheredem et filium esse gaudemus, tuae praestantiae commendare non dubito, domine merito inlustris et praestantissime atque in Christo carissime fili. sanctus itaque frater et coepiscopus meus Felix cum hoc me rogasset, utique negare non debui. commendo ergo tibi episcopum Christi egentem auxilio uiri sublimis; fac ergo, quod potes, quoniam tibi plurimum posse praestitit dominus, cuius te lucrorum auidissimum nouimus.

Whenever people ask me to commend them to your kindness and good faith, if I do not do it, I do not seem to myself to judge rightly either of your mercy toward those in need of help or of your goodwill toward us. So I do it, and above all I do not hesitate to commend to Your Eminence ministers of Christ who bear the care of the Church, whose co-heir and son we rejoice that you are, my justly illustrious and most eminent lord and son most dear in Christ. So when my holy brother and fellow bishop Felix asked me for this, I certainly ought not to refuse. I commend to you, then, a bishop of Christ who needs the help of a man of high rank; do what you can, then, since the Lord, whose gain we know you are most eager for, has granted you to be able to do a great deal.

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Summary: Augustine commends Bishop Felix to Count Valerius and asks him to help him.

  • Addressed to Count Valerius, as Letter 200.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip: n for u): beninolentia → beniuolentia.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 206.1 (CSEL 57:340–341; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-206-1).

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Chapter 207

207.1CSEL 57:341–342

Quoniam mihi fraterno excitatus affectu Iuliani quattuor libros, quos aduersus unum meum scripsit, priusquam peterem, ipse misisti, nihil conuenientius putaui esse faciendum, quam ut ea, quae respondeo, tu potissimum legens iudices, utrum recte congruenterque responderim. nam de his quattuor libris nonnulla decerpta scripserat nescio quis ad inlustrem et religiosum uirum comitem Valerium aduersus eundem librum meum, quem me ad illum scripsisse cognouerat. quae cum in manus meas eodem sublimi uiro curante uenissent, illi primo non distuli secundum uolumen adiungere, in quo illa omnia, sicut potui, refutaui. sed nunc eosdem libros cum diligentius inspicerem, comperi illum, qui nonnulla inde selegerat, non omnia ita posuisse, ut in his libris legitur. unde poterit uideri Iuliano uel cuilibet illorum me potius fuisse mentitum, quia utique non sicut hi quattuor libri ita illa, quae de his excerpta et memorato comiti missa sunt. innotescere potuerunt. quisquis ergo et illum secundum librum meum ad comitem identidem Valerium sicut primum conscriptum legit, nouerit me in quibusdam non respondisse Iuliano sed ei potius. qui de libris eius illa selegit et non ita posuit, ut inuenit, sed aliquantum putauit esse mutanda, fortasse ut eo modo quasi sua faceret, quae aliena esse constaret. nunc autem ueriora credens exemplaria. quae tua sanctitas misit, ipsi auctori uideo respondendum, qui unum meum quattuor libris suis refellisse se iactat et usquequaque spargere fidei uenena non cessat. adgressus sum igitur hoc opus in adiutorio saluatoris pusillorum atque magnorum et scio te, ut id implerem, orasse pro me et pro his, quibus huiusce modi labores nostros profuturos credimus et optamus. adtende ergo iam responsionem meam, cuius principium hanc epistulam subsequetur. ualeas in domino memor nostri. frater beatissime.

Since, moved by brotherly affection, you yourself sent me, before I asked, the four books of Julian that he wrote against one of mine, I thought nothing more fitting could be done than that you above all should read my reply and judge whether I have answered rightly and fittingly. For someone or other had written certain extracts from these four books to the illustrious and religious man, Count Valerius, against that same book of mine, which he had learned I wrote to him. When these came into my hands through the care of the same eminent man, I did not delay to add a second volume for him to the first, in which I refuted all those things as best I could. But now, on examining those same books more carefully, I found that the man who had selected certain passages from them had not set everything down as it reads in those books. Hence it could seem to Julian, or to any of them, that it was rather I who had lied, since the extracts taken from these four books and sent to the count I mentioned could certainly not become known in the same way as the four books themselves. So whoever reads that second book of mine, written likewise to Count Valerius as the first was, should know that in some points I answered not Julian but rather the man who selected those passages from his books and did not set them down as he found them, but thought something should be changed, perhaps so as to make his own in this way what was agreed to be another's. But now, trusting the copies that Your Holiness sent as more accurate, I see that I must answer the author himself, who boasts that he has refuted one book of mine with his four, and does not cease to scatter the poisons of faith everywhere. So I have undertaken this work with the help of the Savior of small and great, and I know that you have prayed for me that I might complete it, and for those whom we believe and hope our labors of this kind will benefit. Attend, then, to my reply, the beginning of which will follow this letter. Farewell in the Lord, and remember us, most blessed brother.

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Summary: Augustine sends Bishop Claudius his reply to Julian of Eclanum's four books, explaining that his earlier answer had relied on inaccurate extracts.

  • Addressed to Claudius, a bishop. The reply is Against Julian (Contra Iulianum); the earlier work is On Marriage and Concupiscence, Book 2, written to Valerius.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 207.1 (CSEL 57:341–342; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/205-1/#p-207-1).

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