Letters 91.1–93.5
Latin text: Goldbacher, CSEL 34, 44, 57 (Latin text: Alois Goldbacher (CSEL 34, 44, 57, 1895–1911), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 1 (1886).
Chapter 91
91.1CSEL 34.2:427–428
Iam senio frigescentibus membris feruere animum tuum patriae caritate nec miror et laudo teque non tantum tenere memoriter uerum etiam uita ac moribus demonstrare, quod nullus sit patriae consulendi modus aut finis bonis, non inuitus, immo etiam libens accipio. unde supernae cuiusdam patriae, in cuius sancto amore pro nostro modulo inter eos, quibus ad illam capessendam consulimus, periclitamur atque laboramus, talem etiam te ipsum ciuem habere uellemus, ut eius portiunculae in hac terra peregrinanti nullum consulendi modum finemque censeres tanto effectus melior, quanto meliori ciuitati officia debita praerogares in eius aeterna pace nullum gaudendi finem inuenturus, cuius ad tempus laboribus nullum tibi finem statueris consulendi.
That your mind, while your limbs are already growing cold with age, glows with love of your country, I do not wonder, and I praise it; and that you not only remember but show by your life and conduct that ‘there is no measure or limit to the good man’s care for his country,’ I accept not unwillingly, nay even gladly. Hence we would wish to have you too as a citizen of a certain heavenly country, in whose holy love, according to our small measure, we face danger and labour among those whom we counsel to win it; so that you would think there is no measure or limit to care for its little portion that is a pilgrim on this earth, becoming the better, the better the city to which you paid your due services, destined to find no end of rejoicing in its eternal peace, if for a time you set no end to your care for its labours.
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Summary: Augustine praises Nectarius’s patriotism and invites him to become a citizen of the heavenly country.
- Reply to Nectarius (Ep. 90). Augustine quotes the Ciceronian phrase from Nectarius’s letter.
Extrabiblical texts: Cicero, Rep. (Cicero; allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 91.1 (CSEL 34.2:427–428; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-91-1).
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91.2CSEL 34.2:428
Verum hoc donec fiat — neque enim desperandum est illam te patriam posse adquirere uel iam adquirendam prudentissime cogitare, ad quam te pater etiam, qui in ista genuit, antecessit — hoc ergo donec fiat, da nobis ueniam, si propter patriam nostram, quam cupimus numquam relinquere, contristamus patriam tuam, quam cupis florentem relinquere. de cuius quidem floribus si cum tua prudentia disputemus, non est uerendum, ne tibi difficile persuadeatur aut uero etiam non facile occurrat, quem ad modum florere ciuitas debeat. commemorauit poeta ille uestrarum clarissimus litterarum quosdam flores Italiae; sed nos in uestra patria non tam experti sumus, quibus floruit terra illa uiris, quam quibus arserit armis, immo uero non armis sed flammis nec arserit, sed incenderit. quod tantum scelus si fuerit inpunitum nulla digna correctione prauorum, florentem te patriam putas relicturum? o flores non plane fructuum sed spinarum! compara nunc, utrum malis florere patriam tuam pietate an impunitate, correctis moribus an securis ausibus; compara ista et uide, utrum in patriae tuae amore nos uincas, utrum eam magis ueriusque cupias florere quam nos.
But until this happens (for we must not despair that you can gain that country, or are already most prudently considering how to gain it, where your father too, who begot you in this one, has gone before you), until this happens, then, forgive us if, for the sake of our country, which we desire never to leave, we sadden your country, which you desire to leave flourishing. If we were to discuss its flowers with your Prudence, there is no fear that you would be hard to persuade, or rather that it would not easily occur to you, how a city ought to flourish. That most famous poet of your literature recalled certain flowers of Italy; but in your country we have experienced not so much ‘with what men that land flourished’ as ‘with what arms it burned’; nay rather, not with arms but with flames, and it did not burn but set on fire. If so great a crime goes unpunished, with no fitting correction of the wicked, do you think you will leave your country flourishing? O flowers, plainly not of fruits but of thorns! Compare now whether you would rather your country flourished in piety or in impunity, in corrected morals or in secure audacity; compare these and see whether you surpass us in love of your country, whether you desire it to flourish more and more truly than we do.
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Summary: Augustine argues that Calama will not truly ‘flourish’ if the arson and violence of its pagans go unpunished.
- The poet is Virgil, Aeneid 7.643–644 (‘with what men the land of Italy flourished, with what arms it burned’).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): pl Udentissime → prudentissime; armis>, → armis,.
Extrabiblical texts: Virgil, Aen. 7.643–644 (Virgil; quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 91.2 (CSEL 34.2:428; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-91-2).
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91.3CSEL 34.2:428–429
Intuere paululum ipsos de re publica libros, unde illum affectum amantissimi ciuis ebibisti, quod nullus sit patriae consulendi modus aut finis bonis. intuere, obsecro te, et cerne, quantis ibi laudibus frugalitas et continentia praedicetur et erga coniugale uinculum fides castique honesti ac probi mores, quibus cum praepollet ciuitas, uere florere dicenda est. hi autem mores in ecclesiis toto orbe crescentibus tamquam in sanctis auditoriis populorum docentur atque discuntur et maxime pietas, qua uerus et uerax colatur deus, qui haec omnia, quibus animus humanus diuinae societati ad inhabitandam aeternam caelestemque ciuitatem instruitur et aptatur, non solum iubet adgredienda, uerum etiam donat implenda. inde est, quod deorum multorum falsorumque simulacra et praedixit euersum iri et praecepit euerti. nihil enim homines tam insociabiles reddit uitae peruersitate quam illorum deorum imitatio, quales describuntur et commendantur litteris eorum.
Look a little at those very books ‘On the Republic’ from which you drank in that affection of a most loving citizen, that ‘there is no measure or limit to the good man’s care for his country.’ Look, I beseech you, and see with what praises frugality and self-control are proclaimed there, and faithfulness to the marriage bond, and chaste, honourable, and upright morals; when a city excels in these, it may truly be said to flourish. And these morals are taught and learned in the churches growing throughout the world, as in holy lecture halls of the peoples, and above all the piety by which the true and truthful God is worshipped, who not only commands us to undertake, but also grants us to fulfil, all those things by which the human mind is instructed and fitted for divine fellowship, to dwell in the eternal and heavenly city. That is why he both foretold that the images of the many false gods would be overthrown and commanded that they be overthrown. For nothing makes men so unsociable through perversity of life as the imitation of those gods, such as they are described and commended in their own literature.
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Summary: Augustine points Nectarius to Cicero’s On the Republic, whose praise of virtue is truly taught in the churches, and argues that imitating the pagan gods corrupts morals.
- Cicero, De re publica. Translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray full stop): illorum. deorum → illorum deorum.
Extrabiblical texts: Cicero, Rep. (Cicero; allusion)
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 91.3 (CSEL 34.2:428–429; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-91-3).
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91.4CSEL 34.2:429–430
Denique illi doctissimi uiri, qui rem publicam ciuitatemque terrenam, qualis eis esse debere uidebatur, magis domesticis disputationibus requirebant uel etiam describebant, quam publicis actionibus instituebant atque formabant, egregios atque laudabiles, quos putabant, homines potius quam deos suos imitandos proponebant erudiendae indoli iuuentutis. et re uera Terentianus ille adulescens, qui spectans tabulam pictam in pariete, ubi pictura inerat de adulterio regis deorum, libidinem, qua rapiebatur, stimulis etiam tantae auctoritatis accendit, nullo modo in illud flagitium uel concupiscendo laberetur uel perpetrando inmergeretur, si Catonem maluisset imitari quam Iouem; sed quo pacto id faceret, cum in templis adorare cogeretur Iouem potius quam Catonem? uerum haec ex comoedia, quibus impiorum luxus et sacrilega superstitio conuinceretur, proferre forsitan non debemus. lege uel recole, in eisdem libris quam prudenter disseratur nullo modo potuisse scriptiones et actiones recipi comoediarum, nisi mores recipientium consonarent. ita clarissimorum uirorum in re publica excellentium et de re publica disputantium auctoritate firmatur nequissimos homines fieri deorum imitatione peiores non sane uerorum sed falsorum atque fictorum.
Indeed, those most learned men who sought or even described the commonwealth and earthly city, such as they thought it ought to be, in private discussions rather than establishing and shaping it by public action, proposed for the education of the character of youth men they thought outstanding and praiseworthy to be imitated, rather than their gods. And truly that young man in Terence who, looking at a picture painted on the wall, in which there was a painting of the adultery of the king of the gods, inflamed the lust by which he was carried away with the goad of so great an authority, would in no way have slipped into that shameful act by desiring it, or sunk into it by committing it, if he had chosen to imitate Cato rather than Jupiter; but how could he do so, when he was compelled to worship Jupiter rather than Cato in the temples? But perhaps we ought not to bring forward these examples from comedy, by which the dissoluteness and sacrilegious superstition of the ungodly might be refuted. Read or recall how wisely it is argued in those same books that the writings and performances of comedies could never have been accepted unless the morals of those who accepted them had agreed with them. Thus it is confirmed by the authority of most famous men, eminent in the commonwealth and discussing the commonwealth, that the most wicked men become worse by imitating gods, not true gods, of course, but false and fictitious ones.
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Summary: Augustine argues, citing Terence and Cicero, that imitating the pagan gods makes men worse, as with the young man in Terence who excused his lust by Jupiter’s example.
- The young man is Chaerea in Terence, Eunuchus 583–591 (painting of Jupiter and Danae). The argument about comedy is from Cicero, De re publica 4.
Extrabiblical texts: Terence, Eun. 583–591 (Terence; allusion); Cicero, Rep. 4 (Cicero; allusion)
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 91.4 (CSEL 34.2:429–430; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-91-4).
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91.5CSEL 34.2:430–431
At enim illa omnia, quae antiquitus de uita deorum moribusque conscripta sunt, longe aliter sunt intellegenda atque interpretanda sapientibus. ita uero in templis populis congregatis recitari huiusce modi salubres interpretationes heri et nudiustertius audiuimus. quaeso te, sicine caecum est humanum genus aduersus ueritatem, ut tam aperta et manifesta non sentiat? tot locis pingitur, funditur, tunditur, sculpitur, scribitur, legitur, agitur, cantatur, saltatur Iuppiter adulteria tanta committens; quantum erat, ut in suo saltem Capitolio ista prohibens legeretur? haec mala dedecoris impietatisque plenissima si nemine prohibente in populis ferueant, adorentur in templis, rideantur in theatris, cum his uictimas immolant, uastetur pecus etiam pauperum, cum haec histriones agunt et saltant, effundantur patrimonia diuitum, ciuitates florere dicuntur? horum plane florum non terra fertilis, non aliqua opulens uirtus sed illa dea Flora digna mater inuenta est, cuius ludi scenici tam effusiore et licentiore turpitudine celebrantur, ut quiuis intellegat, quale daemonium sit, quod placari aliter non potest, nisi illic non aues, non quadrupedes, non denique sanguis humanus sed multo scelestius pudor humanus tamquam immolatus intereat.
‘But all those things that were written long ago about the life and morals of the gods are to be understood and interpreted quite differently by the wise.’ Indeed, we heard yesterday and the day before such wholesome interpretations recited in the temples to the assembled peoples! I ask you, is the human race so blind to the truth that it does not perceive things so open and manifest? In so many places Jupiter is painted, cast, hammered, sculpted, written, read, acted, sung, danced, committing so many adulteries; how much would it have been if, at least in his own Capitol, he were read prohibiting such things? If these evils, full of disgrace and impiety, seethe among the peoples with no one prohibiting them, are adored in the temples, laughed at in the theatres; if, when victims are sacrificed to them, even the cattle of the poor are wasted, and when actors perform and dance these things, the patrimonies of the rich are poured out, are cities said to flourish? Plainly the mother found worthy of these flowers is not a fertile earth, nor any rich virtue, but that goddess Flora, whose stage games are celebrated with such lavish and licentious filthiness that anyone may understand what kind of demon it is that cannot be appeased except by the slaughter there, not of birds, not of four-footed beasts, not even of human blood, but, much more wickedly, of human modesty, perishing as if sacrificed.
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Summary: Augustine mocks the claim that the myths of the gods are interpreted allegorically, pointing to the public celebration of Jupiter’s adulteries and the obscene games of Flora.
- The Floralia were Roman festival games notorious for obscenity. Polemical; translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): turpidine → turpitudine.
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 91.5 (CSEL 34.2:430–431; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-91-5).
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91.6CSEL 34.2:431
Haec dixi, propter quod scripsisti, quantum tibi aetas fini proxima est, cupere te, ut patriam tuam incolumem ac florentem relinquas. tollantur illa omnia uana et insana, conuertantur homines ad uerum dei cultum moresque castos et pios; tunc patriam tuam florentem uidebis non opinione stultorum sed ueritate sapientium, cum haec patria carnalis generationis tuae portio fuerit illius patriae, cui non corpore sed fide nascimur, ubi omnes sancti et fideles dei post labores uelut hiemales uitae huius intermina aeternitate florebunt. nobis itaque cordi est neque Christianam amittere mansuetudinem neque perniciosum ceteris imitationis exemplum in illa ciuitate relinquere. quo modo id agamus, aderit deus, si eis non ita grauiter indignetur. alioquin et mansuetudo, quam seruare cupimus, et disciplina, qua uti moderate nitimur, impediri potest, si deo aliud in occulto placet siue iudicanti hoc tantum malum flagello acriore plectendum siue etiam uehementius irascenti, si non correctis nec ad se conuersis ad tempus esse uoluerit inpunitum.
I have said these things because you wrote that, the nearer your age is to its end, the more you desire to leave your country safe and flourishing. Let all those vain and insane things be taken away; let men be converted to the true worship of God and to chaste and godly morals: then you will see your country flourishing, not in the opinion of fools but in the truth of the wise, when this country of your fleshly birth has become a portion of that country into which we are born not by the body but by faith, where all the saints and faithful of God, after the wintry labours, as it were, of this life, will flourish in unending eternity. It is our heart’s desire, therefore, neither to lose Christian gentleness nor to leave in that city an example harmful for others to imitate. How we are to do this, God will help us, if he is not too gravely angry with them. Otherwise both the gentleness which we desire to keep and the discipline which we strive to use moderately may be hindered, if something else pleases God in secret, whether judging that so great an evil must be punished with a sharper scourge, or even, being more vehemently angry, if he wills that it remain unpunished for a time, while they are not corrected or converted to him.
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Summary: Augustine says Calama will truly flourish only when converted to God, and that he seeks both Christian gentleness and a correction that does not encourage imitation.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 91.6 (CSEL 34.2:431; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-91-6).
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91.7CSEL 34.2:431–432
Praescribit nobis quodam modo prudentia tua de persona episcopali et dicis patriam tuam non leui populi sui errato prolapsam. quod quidem si iuris publici rigore metiamur, debet plecti seueriore censura; sed episcopum, inquis, fas non est nisi salutem hominibus impertire et pro statu meliore causis adesse et apud omnipotentem deum ueniam aliorum mereri delictis. hoc omnino seruare conamur, ut seueriore censura nemo plectatur neque a nobis neque ab alio ullo intercedentibus nobis, et salutem hominibus cupimus impertire. quae posita est in recte uiuendi felicitate, non in male faciendi securitate. ueniam quoque non tantum nostris uerum et aliorum instamus delictis mereri, quod impetrare nisi pro correctis omnino non possumus. adiungis etiam et dicis: Quanta possum supplicatione deposco, ut, si defendenda res est, innoxius defendatur, ab innocentibus molestia separetur.
Your Prudence in a way prescribes to us concerning the role of a bishop, and you say that your country ‘has fallen through no light offence of its people. If indeed we measure it by the rigour of public law, it ought to be punished with a severer sentence. But it is not right,’ you say, ‘for a bishop to do anything but bestow salvation on men, to stand by causes for the better state of things, and to obtain from almighty God pardon for the faults of others.’ This we try wholly to observe: that no one be punished with a severer sentence, either by us or by anyone else at our intercession; and we desire to bestow on men salvation, which consists in the happiness of living rightly, not in the security of doing wrong. We also strive to obtain pardon not only for our own faults but also for those of others, which we cannot obtain at all except for those who are corrected. You add further and say: ‘I ask with all the supplication I can that, if the matter is to be defended, the harmless be defended and trouble be kept from the innocent.’
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Summary: Augustine accepts Nectarius’s account of a bishop’s duty but explains that true salvation and pardon require correction, not impunity.
- Augustine quotes Nectarius, Ep. 90.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray asterisk): episcopum*, → episcopum,.
Topics: Church office
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 91.7 (CSEL 34.2:431–432; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-91-7).
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91.8CSEL 34.2:432–433
Accipe breuiter, quae commissa sint, et noxios ab innocentibus ipse discerne. contra recentissimas leges Kalendis Iuniis festo paganorum sacrilega sollemnitas agitata est nemine prohibente tam insolenti ausu, ut, quod nec Iuliani temporibus factum est, petulantissima turba saltantium in eodem prorsus uico ante fores transiret ecclesiae. quam rem inlicitissimam atque indignissimam clericis prohibere temptantibus ecclesia lapidata est. deinde post dies ferme octo, cum leges notissimas episcopus ordini replicasset et dum ea, quae iussa sunt, uelut implere disponunt, iterum ecclesia lapidata est. postridie nostris ad inponendum perditis metum, quod uidebatur, apud acta dicere uolentibus publica iura negata sunt eodemque ipso die, ne uel diuinitus terrerentur, grando lapidationibus reddita est, qua transacta continuo tertiam lapidationem et postremo ignes ecclesiasticis tectis atque hominibus intulerunt, unum seruorum dei, qui oberrans occurrere potuit, occiderunt ceteris partim, ubi potuerant, latitantibus partim, qua potuerant, fugientibus, cum interea contrusus atque coartatus quodam loco se occultaret episcopus, ubi se ad mortem quaerentium uoces audiebat sibique increpantium, quod eo non inuento gratis tantum perpetrassent scelus. gesta sunt haec ab hora ferme decima usque ad noctis partem non minimam. nemo compescere, nemo subuenire temptauit illorum, quorum esse grauis posset auctoritas, praeter unum peregrinum, per quem et plurimi serui dei de manibus interficere conantium liberati sunt et multa extorta praedantibus. per quem clarum factum est, quam facile illa uel omnino non fierent uel coepta desisterent, si ciues maximeque primates ea fieri perficique uetuissent.
Hear briefly what was done, and distinguish the guilty from the innocent yourself. Against the most recent laws, on the Kalends of June, a sacrilegious pagan festival was celebrated with no one prohibiting it, with such insolent daring that, what was not done even in the times of Julian, a most impudent crowd of dancers passed right along the same street before the doors of the church. When the clergy tried to prohibit this most unlawful and most unworthy thing, the church was stoned. Then about eight days later, when the bishop had reminded the council of the well-known laws, and while they were making a show of arranging to carry out what was ordered, the church was stoned again. The next day, when our people wished to make a statement in the records, to put fear into the wicked, as seemed right, they were denied their public rights; and on that same day, that they might be frightened at least by heaven, hail was returned for the stonings; and when it had passed, they at once made a third stoning and finally set fire to the church buildings and the people; they killed one of the servants of God who, wandering, happened to meet them, while the rest hid partly where they could and fled partly as they could; meanwhile the bishop, thrust into a certain place and squeezed in, hid himself there, where he heard the voices of those seeking him to kill him and reproaching themselves because, not having found him, they had committed so great a crime for nothing. These things were done from about the tenth hour until no small part of the night. No one of those whose authority could carry weight tried to restrain them, no one to help, except one stranger, through whom very many servants of God were freed from the hands of those trying to kill them and much was wrested from the plunderers. Through him it was made clear how easily these things would either not have happened at all or would have stopped once begun, if the citizens, and especially the leading men, had forbidden them to be done and carried through.
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Summary: Augustine recounts the pagan riot at Calama on 1 June 408: a forbidden festival, repeated stoning of the church, arson, and the murder of a monk, while the town’s leaders did nothing.
- ‘The most recent laws’ are imperial laws of 407–408 against pagan festivals. Julian the Apostate, emperor 361–363. The bishop of Calama was Possidius. ‘That they might be frightened at least by heaven’: the printed ne uel diuinitus terrerentur is awkward (literally ‘lest they be frightened even by heaven’); translated by sense.
Topics: Persecution
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 91.8 (CSEL 34.2:432–433; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-91-8).
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91.9CSEL 34.2:433–434
Proinde in uniuersa illa ciuitate non innocentes a nocentibus sed minus nocentes a nocentioribus poteris fortasse discernere. nam in paruo peccato illi sunt, qui metu deterriti maximeque, ne offenderent eos, quos in illo oppido plurimum posse et inimicos ecclesiae nouerant, opem ferre non ausi sunt; scelerati autem omnes, quibus etsi non facientibus neque inmittentibus tamen uolentibus ista commissa sunt; sceleratiores, qui commiserunt; sceleratissimi, qui inmiserunt. sed de inmissione suspicionem putemus esse, non ueritatem nec ea discutiamus, quae nisi tormentis eorum, per quos inquiruntur, inueniri omnino non possunt. demus etiam ueniam timori eorum, qui potius deum pro episcopo et seruis eius deprecandum quam potentes inimicos ecclesiae offendendos esse putauerunt. quid eos, qui restant, nullane censes disciplina cohercendos et proponendum aestimas inpunitum tam immanis furoris exemplum? non praeterita uindicando pascere iram nostram studemus, sed misericorditer in futurum consulendo satagimus. habent homines mali, ubi et per Christianos non solum mansuete uerum etiam utiliter salubriterque plectantur: habent enim. quod corpore incolumi uiuunt, habent, unde uiuunt, habent, unde male uiuunt. duo prima salua sint, ut, quos paeniteat, sint; hoc optamus, hoc, quantum in nobis est, etiam inpensa opera instamus. tertium uero si deus uoluerit tamquam putre noxiumque resecari, ualde misericorditer puniet: si autem uel amplius uoluerit uel ne hoc quidem permiserit, altioris et profecto iustioris consilii ratio penes ipsum est; a nobis curam officiumque oportet inpendi, quousque uidere conceditur. deprecantibus eum, ut animum nostrum adprobet, quo cunctis uolumus esse consultum, nihilque fieri sinat per nos, quod et nobis et ecclesiae suae non expedire longe melius nouit ipse quam nos.
So in that whole city you will perhaps be able to distinguish not the innocent from the guilty but the less guilty from the more guilty. For those are in slight sin who, deterred by fear, and especially of offending those whom they knew to be most powerful in that town and enemies of the church, did not dare to bring help; but all are criminals by whose will these things were committed, even if they did not do them or instigate them; more criminal are those who committed them; most criminal those who instigated them. But let us suppose that the instigation is a suspicion and not the truth, and let us not examine those things which cannot be found out at all except by torturing those through whom they are investigated. Let us also pardon the fear of those who thought it better to pray to God for the bishop and his servants than to offend the powerful enemies of the church. What of those who remain? Do you think they should be restrained by no discipline, and that so savage an example of fury should be set forth unpunished? We are not eager to feed our anger by avenging what is past, but we take pains to provide mercifully for the future. Wicked men have things in which they may be punished by Christians not only gently but also usefully and wholesomely; for they have the fact that they live with body unharmed, they have the means by which they live, and they have the means by which they live wickedly. Let the first two be kept safe, so that there may be those who repent; this we desire, and as far as lies in us we press for it with earnest effort. But the third, if God wills to cut it off as rotten and harmful, he will punish very mercifully; but if he wills either more, or does not permit even this, the reason of a higher and certainly juster counsel lies with him. From us must be given care and duty, as far as we are permitted to see; praying him to approve our intention, by which we wish all to be provided for, and to let nothing be done through us which he knows much better than we do is not expedient for us and for his church.
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Summary: Augustine distinguishes degrees of guilt among the people of Calama and asks that the guilty be spared life and livelihood but deprived of the wealth that enables their wickedness.
- Concerns the punishment of the Calama rioters; Augustine opposes bodily punishment and torture. Translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray letter): et semis eius → et seruis eius; quidem u permiserit → quidem permiserit.
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 91.9 (CSEL 34.2:433–434; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-91-9).
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91.10CSEL 34.2:434–436
Modo cum apud Calamam essemus, ut nostri in tam graui dolore uel consolarentur afflicti uel sedarentur accensi, quantum potuimus. quod in tempore oportuisse existimauimus. cum Christianis egimus. deinde ipsos etiam paganos, mali tanti caput et causam, petentes, ut ab eis uideremur, admisimus, ut hac occasione admoneremus eos, quid facere deberent, si saperent, non tantum pro remouenda praesenti sollicitudine uerum etiam pro inquirenda salute perpetua. multa a nobis audierunt, multum etiam ipsi rogauerunt; sed absit. ut tales serui simus, quos ab eis rogari delectet, a quibus noster dominus non rogatur. unde peruides pro uiuacitate mentis tuae ad hoc esse nitendum seruata mansuetudine et moderatione Christiana, ut aut ceteros deterreamus eorum imitari peruersitatem aut ceteros optemus eorum imitari correctionem. damna, quae inlata sunt, uel tolerantur a Christianis uel resarciuntur per Christianos. animarum nos lucra, quibus adquirendis cum periculo etiam sanguinis inhiamus, et in loco illo quaestuosius prouenire et aliis locis illo exemplo non impediri desideramus. dei misericordia nobis praestet de tua salute gaudere.
Recently, when we were at Calama, so that our people in so great a grief might be either consoled in their affliction or calmed in their anger, we did with the Christians, as far as we could, what we thought was needed at that time. Then we also admitted the pagans themselves, the head and cause of so great an evil, at their request to see us, so that on this occasion we might admonish them what they ought to do, if they were wise, not only to remove their present anxiety but also to seek eternal salvation. They heard much from us, and they themselves also asked much; but far be it from us to be such servants as are pleased to be asked by those by whom our Lord is not asked. So you see, in the liveliness of your mind, that we must strive, while keeping Christian gentleness and moderation, either to deter others from imitating their perversity or to wish that others may imitate their correction. The losses that were inflicted are either borne by Christians or made good through Christians. The gains of souls, which we long to acquire even at the risk of our blood, we desire both to come about more profitably in that place and not to be hindered in other places by that example. May the mercy of God grant us to rejoice in your salvation.
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Summary: Augustine reports meeting both Christians and pagans at Calama, and seeks a correction that deters imitation while winning souls.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): domiiius → dominus.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 91.10 (CSEL 34.2:434–436; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-91-10).
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Chapter 92
92.1CSEL 34.2:436–437
Non solum litteris tuis uerum etiam ipso referente, qui pertulit, comperi multum te flagitare litteras meas credentem, quod ex eis consolationem habere plurimam possis. tu itaque uideris, quid exinde capias, ego tamen eas negare uel differre non debui. consoletur te autem fides et spes tua et ipsa caritas, quae diffunditur in cordibus piorum per spiritum sanctum, cuius nunc aliquid pro pignore accepimus, ut ipsam plenitudinem desiderare nouerimus. non enim te desolatam putare debes, cum in interiore homine habeas praesentem Christum per fidem in corde tuo, aut sic te contristari oportet quem ad modum gentes, quae spem non habent, cum ueracissima promissione speremus nos in hac uita, unde migraturi quosdam nostros migrantes non amisimus, sed praemisimus, ad eam uitam esse uenturos, ubi nobis erunt quanto notiores tanto utique cariores et sine timore ullius discessionis amabiles.
I have learned, not only from your letter but also from the report of the man who brought it, that you are earnestly asking for a letter from me, believing that you can have very great consolation from it. You must see what you gain from it; but I ought not to refuse or delay it. May your faith and hope console you, and love itself, which is poured out in the hearts of the godly by the Holy Spirit, of whom we have now received something as a pledge, that we may learn to long for the fullness itself. For you ought not to think yourself desolate when you have Christ present in the inner man by faith in your heart; nor ought you to be saddened like the Gentiles who have no hope, since by a most truthful promise we hope that we, who are to depart from this life, from which we have not lost but sent ahead some of our own who are departing, shall come to that life where they will be the dearer to us the better known they are, and lovable without fear of any parting.
Rom 5:5 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 1:22 (allusion, medium confidence) · Eph 3:17 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Thess 4:13 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine consoles the widow Italica with Christian hope of reunion with the departed in the life to come.
- Addressed to Italica, a Roman widow of high rank. Allusions: Rom 5:5; 2 Cor 1:22; Eph 3:16–17; 1 Thess 4:13.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 92.1 (CSEL 34.2:436–437; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-92-1).
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92.2CSEL 34.2:437–438
Hic autem etsi tuus coniux, cuius abscessu uidua diceris, tibi notissimus erat, notior tamen erat sibi quam tibi. et unde hoc. cum tu eius corporalem faciem uideres, quam ipse utique non uidebat, nisi quia notitia nostri certior intus est. ubi nemo scit, quae sunt hominis, nisi spiritus hominis. qui in ipso est? sed cum uenerit dominus et inluminauerit abscondita tenebrarum et manifestauerit cogitationes cordis, tunc nihil latebit proximum in proximo nec erit, quod suis quisque aperiat, abscondat alienis, ubi nullus erit alienus. lux uero ipsa, qua inluminabuntur haec omnia, quae modo in cordibus reconduntur, qualis aut quanta sit, quis lingua proferat, quis saltem infirma mente contingat? profecto lux illa ipse deus est, quoniam deus lux est et tenebrae in eo non sunt ullae, sed lux mentium purgatarum, non istorum corporis oculorum. erit ergo tunc mens idonea, quae illam lucem uideat, quod nunc nondum est.
Here, however, although your husband, by whose departure you are called a widow, was very well known to you, he was better known to himself than to you. And why so, when you saw his bodily face, which he certainly did not see, unless because our knowledge of ourselves is surer within, where ‘no one knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man that is in him’? But when the Lord comes and brings to light the hidden things of darkness and makes manifest the thoughts of the heart, then nothing in a neighbour will be hidden from his neighbour, nor will there be anything that one opens to his own and hides from strangers, where no one will be a stranger. But that light itself, by which all these things now hidden in hearts will be illumined, who can express with the tongue what it is like or how great, who can touch it even with a weak mind? Surely that light is God himself, since ‘God is light and in him there is no darkness at all’; but he is the light of purified minds, not of these eyes of the body. Then, therefore, the mind will be fit to see that light, which it is not yet now.
1 Cor 2:11 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 4:5 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 John 1:5 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine explains that in the resurrection hearts will be open to one another in the light of God, who is seen by purified minds, not bodily eyes.
- Quotations: 1 Cor 2:11; 1 Cor 4:5; 1 John 1:5.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): lux ilia → lux illa.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 92.2 (CSEL 34.2:437–438; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-92-2).
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92.3CSEL 34.2:438–440
Hoc autem oculus corporis neque nunc potest neque tunc poterit. omne quippe, quod oculis corporis conspici potest. in loco aliquo sit necesse est nec ubique sit totum, sed minore sui parte minorem locum occupet et maiore maiorem. non ita est deus inuisibilis et incorruptibilis, qui solus habet inmortalitatem et lucem habitat inaccessibilem, quem nemo hominum uidit nec uidere potest. per hoc enim uideri ab homine non potest, per quod uidet homo corpore corpora. nam si et mentibus piorum esset inaccessibilis, non diceretur: Accedite ad eum et inluminamini, et si mentibus piorum esset inuisibilis, non diceretur: Videbimus eum, sicuti est. nam perspice totam ipsam in epistula Iohannis sententiam: Dilectissimi. inquit, filii dei sumus et nondum apparuit, quod erimus. scimus, quia, cum apparuerit, similes ei erimus, quoniam uidebimus eum, sicuti est. in tantum ergo uidebimus, in quantum similes erimus, quia et nunc in tantum non uidemus, in quantum dissimiles sumus. inde igitur uidebimus, ubi similes erimus. quis autem dementissimus dixerit corpore nos uel esse uel futuros esse similes deo? in interiore igitur homine ista similitudo est, qui renouatur in agnitione dei secundum imaginem eius, qui creauit eum. et tanto efficimur similiores illi, quanto magis in eius cognitione et caritate proficimus, quia, etsi exterior homo noster corrumpitur, sed interior renouatur de die in diem ita sane, ut in hac uita, quantuscumque prouectus sit, longe absit ab illa perfectione similitudinis, quae idonea erit ad uidendum deum, sicut dicit apostolus, facie ad faciem. in quibus certe uerbis si corporalem faciem uoluerimus accipere, consequens erit, ut etiam deus talem habeat faciem et sit aliquod interuallum inter nostram et ipsius, cum eum uidebimus facie ad faciem, et si interuallum, utique finis et membrorum habitus terminatus et cetera absurda dictuque et cogitatu impia, quibus animalis homo non percipiens, quae sunt spiritus dei, fallacissimis uanitatibus luditur.
But the eye of the body can neither do this now nor will be able to then. For everything that can be seen by the eyes of the body must be in some place, and is not whole everywhere, but occupies a smaller place with a smaller part of itself and a larger with a larger. God is not like this, invisible and incorruptible, ‘who alone has immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see.’ For he cannot be seen by man by that by which man sees bodies with the body. For if he were unapproachable even to the minds of the godly, it would not be said, ‘Approach him and be enlightened’; and if he were invisible to the minds of the godly, it would not be said, ‘We shall see him as he is.’ For consider the whole sentence in the letter of John: ‘Beloved,’ he says, ‘we are children of God, and it has not yet appeared what we shall be. We know that when he appears we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.’ So we shall see in so far as we shall be like him, because even now we do not see in so far as we are unlike. We shall see, then, by that in which we shall be like him. But who, however mad, would say that we are or shall be like God in body? This likeness, then, is in the inner man, ‘who is renewed in the knowledge of God according to the image of him who created him.’ And we are made the more like him the more we advance in knowledge and love of him; for ‘though our outer man is decaying, yet our inner man is renewed day by day’; in such a way, however, that in this life, however far one has advanced, one is far from that perfection of likeness which will be fit to see God, as the apostle says, ‘face to face.’ If in these words we wish to take ‘face’ as bodily, it will follow that God too has such a face, and that there is some distance between ours and his when we see him face to face; and if distance, then certainly limit, and a bounded arrangement of members, and other things absurd and impious to say or think, by which the natural man, who does not perceive the things of the Spirit of God, is mocked by most deceitful vanities.
1 Tim 1:17 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Tim 6:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 34:5 (33:6 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · 1 John 3:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Col 3:10 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 4:16 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 13:12 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:14 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine argues that God, who is not in place, cannot be seen by bodily eyes, but will be seen by the inner man as he is renewed in God’s likeness.
- Quotations: 1 Tim 1:17; 1 Tim 6:16; Ps 34:5 (LXX 33:6); 1 John 3:2; Col 3:10; 2 Cor 4:16; 1 Cor 13:12; 1 Cor 2:14.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 92.3 (CSEL 34.2:438–440; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-92-3).
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92.4CSEL 34.2:440–443
Dicunt enim quidam eorum, qui talia garriunt, sicut ad me potuit peruenire, nos deum uidere nunc mente tunc corpore, ita ut etiam impios eum pari modo adseuerent esse uisuros. uide, quantum in peius profecerint. dum sine limite timoris uel pudoris hac atque hac uagabunda fertur inpunita loquacitas. antea dicebant carni suae tantum hoc praestitisse Christum, ut corporeis oculis uideret deum; deinde addiderunt etiam omnes sanctos receptis in resurrectione corporibus eodem modo deum esse uisuros; nunc iam istam possibilitatem etiam impiis donauerunt. donent sane, quantum uolunt et quibus uolunt; nam quis audeat contra dicere hominibus de suo donantibus? qui enim loquitur mendacium, de suo loquitur. tu autem cum his, qui sanam doctrinam tenent, nihil istorum audeas usurpare de tuo; sed cum legis: Beati mundo corde, quoniam ipsi deum uidebunt, intellege impios non uisuros; neque enim beati et mundi corde sunt impii. item cum legis: Videmus nunc per speculum in aenigmate, tunc autem facie ad faciem, intellege inde nos tunc uisuros facie ad faciem, unde nunc uidemus per speculum in aenigmate. hoc autem utrumque interioris hominis munus est, siue cum in ista peregrinatione adhuc per fidem ambulatur, in qua utitur speculo et aenigmate, siue in illa patria, cum per speciem contemplabitur, pro qua uisione positum est facie ad faciem. Audiat caro carnalibus cogitationibus ebria: Spiritus est deus et ideo, qui adorant deum, in spiritu et ueritate oportet adorare. si adorare, quanto magis uidere! quis enim audeat adfirmare dei substantiam corporaliter uideri, cum eam noluerit corporaliter adorari? sed argute sibi uidentur dicere et quasi interrogando premere: Potuit Christus praestare carni suae, ut oculis corporeis uideret patrem, an non potuit? ut, si non potuisse responderimus, omnipotentiae dei nos derogasse proclament; si autem potuisse concesserimus, argumentationem suam ex nostra responsione concludant. quanto iam tolerabilius desipiunt, qui carnem adserunt conuersum iri in substantiam dei et hoc futuram esse, quod deus est, ut sic eam saltem deo uidendo faciant idoneam non tanta diuersitate dissimilem. quam uanitatem credo istos abigere a fide sua, fortasse et ab auribus. et tamen si interrogatione de hoc similiter urgeantur, possitne hoc deus, an non possit efficere, utrum eius potestati detrahent, si non posse responderint, an hoc futurum fatebuntur, si posse concesserint? quo modo ergo exierint de hoc alieno laqueo, sic exeant de suo. deinde cur solis oculis corporis Christi hoc donum adtributum esse contendunt, non etiam ceteris sensibus? sonus ergo erit deus, ut possit eius etiam auribus percipi? et halitus erit, ut sentiri possit eius olfactu? et liquor aliquis erit, ut possit et bibi? et moles erit, ut possit et tangi? non, inquiunt. quid ergo? an illud potest deus et hoc non potest? si non posse dixerint, cur derogant omnipotentiae dei? si posse et nolle responderint, cur solis oculis fauent, inuident autem ceteris sensibus corporis Christi? an, quousque uolunt, desipiunt? quanto nos melius, qui non eorum insipientiae terminos figimus, sed, ut desipiant prorsus, nolumus!
For some of those who chatter such things say, as far as could reach me, that we see God now with the mind but then with the body, so that they even assert that the ungodly will see him in the same way. See how far they have advanced for the worse, while unpunished talkativeness wanders hither and thither without the limit of fear or shame. Formerly they said that Christ granted this to his own flesh alone, that it should see God with bodily eyes; then they added that all the saints too, having received their bodies in the resurrection, would see God in the same way; now they have granted this possibility even to the ungodly. Let them grant as much as they will and to whom they will; for who would dare to contradict men giving of their own? ‘For he who speaks a lie speaks of his own.’ But you, with those who hold sound doctrine, do not dare to claim anything of these things of your own; but when you read, ‘Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God,’ understand that the ungodly will not see him; for the ungodly are neither blessed nor pure in heart. Likewise, when you read, ‘We see now through a mirror in an enigma, but then face to face,’ understand that we shall then see face to face by that by which we now see through a mirror in an enigma. Both of these are the work of the inner man, whether when in this pilgrimage one still walks by faith, in which it uses a mirror and an enigma, or in that homeland when it will contemplate by sight, for which vision ‘face to face’ is put. Let the flesh drunk with carnal thoughts hear: ‘God is spirit, and therefore those who worship God must worship in spirit and truth.’ If worship, how much more see! For who would dare to affirm that the substance of God is seen bodily, when he did not wish it to be worshipped bodily? But they think they speak cleverly and press us, as it were, with a question: ‘Could Christ grant to his flesh that it should see the Father with bodily eyes, or could he not?’ So that, if we answer that he could not, they may proclaim that we have detracted from God’s omnipotence; but if we concede that he could, they may conclude their argument from our answer. How much more tolerably foolish are those who assert that the flesh will be changed into the substance of God and will become what God is, so as at least to make it fit to see God by making it not so different from him! I believe these men drive away that vanity from their faith, perhaps even from their ears. And yet, if they were pressed in the same way with the question whether God can bring this about or cannot, will they detract from his power if they answer that he cannot, or will they admit that it will happen if they concede that he can? As, then, they would escape from this snare of others, so let them escape from their own. Next, why do they contend that this gift was attributed only to the eyes of Christ’s body, and not to the other senses as well? Will God then be a sound, so that he can be perceived by his ears too? And will he be a breath, so that he can be sensed by his smell? And will he be some liquid, so that he can also be drunk? And will he be a mass, so that he can also be touched? ‘No,’ they say. What then? Can God do the one and not the other? If they say he cannot, why do they detract from God’s omnipotence? If they answer that he can but will not, why do they favour only the eyes and begrudge the other senses of Christ’s body? Or are they foolish just as far as they wish? How much better are we, who do not fix limits to their folly, but wish them not to be foolish at all!
John 8:44 (quotation, high confidence) · Titus 2:1 (echo, low confidence) · Matt 5:8 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 13:12 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 5:7 (allusion, high confidence) · John 4:24 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine refutes those who claim that God will be seen with bodily eyes, even by the wicked, arguing from Scripture that only the pure in heart will see God, and that with the inner man.
- Quotations: John 8:44; Matt 5:8; 1 Cor 13:12; John 4:24; allusions: 2 Cor 5:6–7. Doctrinally significant (the vision of God); translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): tft-geantur → urgeantur; non>, inquiunt → non, inquiunt.
Topics: Eschatology, Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 92.4 (CSEL 34.2:440–443; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-92-4).
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92.5CSEL 34.2:443–444
Multa proferri possunt ad istam dementiam refutandam. sed si aliquando inruerint auribus tuis, haec eis interim lege et, quid respondeant, non te pigeat rescribere, ut potes. ad hoc enim fide corda nostra mundantur, quia nobis fidei merces uisio dei promittitur. quae si per corporis oculos erit, frustra ad eam percipiendam sanctorum animus exercetur, immo uero tam peruerse sentiens animus non exercetur in se, sed totus in carne est. ubi enim tenacius habitabit et fixius, nisi unde se deum uisurum esse praesumit? quod certe quantum malum sit, intellegentiae potius dimitto tuae, quam longo sermone molior explicare. in protectione domini semper habitet cor tuum, domina eximia et merito praestantissima atque in Christi caritate honoranda filia. honorabiles tecum nobisque in domino dilectissimos filios tuos debito meritis uestris officio resaluto.
Much can be brought forward to refute this madness. But if it should ever assail your ears, read them this meanwhile, and do not be reluctant to write back, as you can, what they answer. For our hearts are cleansed by faith for this reason, that the vision of God is promised us as the reward of faith. If it is to be through the eyes of the body, the mind of the saints is exercised in vain to attain it; nay rather, a mind that thinks so perversely is not exercised in itself but is wholly in the flesh. For where will it dwell more tenaciously and more firmly than where it presumes it will see God? How great an evil this is I leave rather to your understanding than labour to explain in a long discourse. May your heart always dwell in the protection of the Lord, excellent lady, deservedly most distinguished, daughter to be honoured in the love of Christ. I return the greetings, with the respect due to your merits, of your honourable children, most beloved to you and to us in the Lord.
Acts 15:9 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 91:1 (90:1 LXX) (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Augustine asks Italica to answer such views with his letter, since faith purifies the heart for the vision of God, which a mind fixed on the flesh cannot attain.
- Allusion to Acts 15:9; Ps 91:1 (LXX 90:1).
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 92.5 (CSEL 34.2:443–444; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-92-5).
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Chapter 93
93.1CSEL 34.2:445–446
Accepi epistulam, quam tuam esse non mihi incredibile uisum est; adtulit enim eam, quem catholicum Christianum esse constaret, qui, ut opinor, mihi mentiri audere non posset. sed etsi forte non sunt litterae tuae, ego ei, qui scripsit, rescribendum putaui nunc me potius quietis esse auidum et petentem quam tunc, cum me adulescentem uiuo adhuc Rogato, cui successisti, apud Carthaginem noueras. sed Donatistae nimium inquieti sunt, quos per ordinatas a deo potestates cohiberi atque corrigi non mihi uidetur inutile. nam de multorum iam correctione gaudemus, qui tam ueraciter unitatem catholicam tenent atque defendunt et a pristino errore se liberatos esse laetantur, ut eos cum magna gratulatione miremur. qui tamen nescio qua ui consuetudinis nullo modo mutari in melius cogitarent, nisi hoc terrore perculsi sollicitam mentem ad considerationem ueritatis intenderent, ne forte, si non pro iustitia sed pro peruersitate et praesumptione hominum ipsas temporales molestias infructuosa et uana tolerantia paterentur, apud deum postea non inuenirent nisi debitas poenas impiorum, qui eius tam lenem admonitionem et paterna flagella contempserint, ac sic ista cogitatione dociles facti non in calumniis et fabulis humanis sed in diuinis libris promissam per omnes gentes inuenirent ecclesiam, quam suis oculis reddi conspicerent, in quibus et Christum praenuntiatum etiam non uisum super caelos esse minime dubitarent. num quidnam ego istorum saluti inuidere debebam, ut collegas meos ab huius modi paterna diligentia reuocarem, per quam factum est, ut multos uideamus accusare suam pristinam caecitatem? qui cum super caelos exaltatum Christum etiam non uidentes credebant, gloriam tamen eius super omnem terram etiam uidentes negabant, cum propheta utrumque una sententia tanta manifestatione complexus sit dicens: Exaltare super caelos, deus, et super omnem terram gloria tua.
I have received a letter which I did not find it hard to believe is yours, for it was brought by a man known to be a Catholic Christian, who, I think, would not dare to lie to me. But even if the letter is perhaps not yours, I thought I should write back to whoever wrote it that I am now more eager for quiet and more desirous of it than I was then, when you knew me at Carthage as a young man, while Rogatus, whom you succeeded, was still alive. But the Donatists are far too restless, and it does not seem to me useless that they should be restrained and corrected by the authorities ordained by God. For we already rejoice over the correction of many who hold and defend Catholic unity so sincerely, and are so glad to have been set free from their former error, that we marvel at them with great joy. Yet these, by some force of habit, would never have thought of changing for the better had they not been struck with this fear and turned their anxious minds to consider the truth. They feared that if they endured these temporal troubles with a fruitless and empty endurance, not for the sake of righteousness but for human perversity and presumption, they would afterwards find with God nothing but the punishment due to the ungodly who had despised so gentle a warning and such fatherly scourges. Made teachable by this thought, they found the church promised throughout all nations, not in human slanders and tales, but in the divine books; and they saw it fulfilled before their own eyes, and from the same books they no longer doubted that Christ, foretold there, is above the heavens, though they do not see him. Ought I then to have begrudged these men their salvation and called my colleagues back from this fatherly diligence, through which it has come about that we see many accusing their former blindness? Though they believed that Christ is exalted above the heavens without seeing him, they denied his glory over all the earth even while they saw it; yet the prophet embraced both in one sentence with such clarity, saying: “Be exalted above the heavens, O God, and your glory above all the earth.”
Ps 57:5 (56:6 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 13:1 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Augustine answers the Rogatist bishop Vincentius, defending the restraint of the Donatists by the civil authorities because many have been corrected by it.
- The letter is addressed to Vincentius, Rogatist bishop of Cartenna, successor of Rogatus. Its defence of the imperial laws against the Donatists is translated exactly as written. Quotation: Ps 57:5, 11 (56:6, 12 LXX); compare Ps 108:5.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray hyphen in the digital text): saluti- inuidere → saluti inuidere.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 93.1 (CSEL 34.2:445–446; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-93-1).
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93.2CSEL 34.2:446–447
Istos ergo atroces quondam inimicos nostros pacem et quietem nostram uariis uiolentiarum et insidiarum generibus grauiter infestantes si sic contemneremus et toleraremus, ut nihil omnino, quod ad eos terrendos ac corrigendos ualere posset, excogitaretur et argueretur a nobis, uere malum pro malo redderemus. si enim quisquam inimicum suum periculosis febribus phreneticum factum currere uideret in praeceps, nonne tunc potius malum pro malo redderet, si eum sic ire permitteret, quam si corripiendum ligandumque curaret? et tamen ei tunc molestissimus et aduersissimus uideretur, quando utilissimus et misericordissimus extitisset; sed plane salute reparata tanto uberius ei gratias ageret, quanto sibi eum minus pepercisse sensisset. o si possem tibi ostendere, ex ipsis Circumcellionibus quam multos iam catholicos manifestos habeamus damnantes suam pristinam uitam et miserabilem errorem. quo se arbitrabantur pro ecclesia dei facere, quicquid inquieta temeritate faciebant! qui tamen ad hanc sanitatem non perducerentur, nisi legum istarum, quae tibi displicent, uinculis tamquam phrenetici ligarentur. quid illud alterum genus morbi grauissimi eorum, qui turbulentam quidem audaciam non habebant, sed quadam uetusta socordia premebantur dicentes nobis: Verum quidem dicitis; non est, quod respondeatur; sed durum est nobis traditionem parentum relinquere? nonne salubriter regula temporalium molestiarum excutiendi erant, ut tamquam de somno lethargico emergerent et in salutem unitatis euigilarent? quam multi et ex ipsis nunc nobiscum gaudentes pristinum pondus perniciosi sui operis accusant et fatentur nos sibi molestos esse debuisse, ne tamquam mortifero somno ita morbo ueternosae consuetudinis interirent.
If, then, we were so to disregard and tolerate these men, once our fierce enemies, who gravely troubled our peace and quiet with violence and ambushes of every kind, that we devised and urged nothing at all that might serve to frighten and correct them, we would truly be repaying evil for evil. For if someone saw his enemy, made delirious by a dangerous fever, running toward a precipice, would he not rather be repaying evil for evil if he let him go on so, than if he had him seized and bound? And yet at that moment he would seem to the man most troublesome and most hostile, when in fact he had shown himself most useful and most merciful; but once his health was restored, the man would thank him all the more warmly the less he felt he had been spared. Oh, if only I could show you how many of the Circumcellions themselves we now have as open Catholics, condemning their former life and their wretched error, in which they thought that whatever they did in their restless rashness they were doing for the church of God! Yet they would not have been brought to this soundness had they not been bound, like madmen, by the bonds of these laws that displease you. And what of that other kind of very grave disease, of those who had no turbulent boldness but were weighed down by a kind of long-standing sluggishness, who said to us: “What you say is true; there is no answer to it; but it is hard for us to give up the tradition of our parents”? Was it not wholesome that they should be shaken by the discipline of temporal troubles, so that they might come out of a sort of lethargic sleep and awaken to the salvation of unity? How many of these, too, now rejoicing with us, condemn the former weight of their ruinous course, and confess that we ought to have troubled them, lest they perish of the disease of inveterate habit as of a deadly sleep!
Rom 12:17 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Leaving the Donatists unchecked would be repaying evil for evil, as letting a delirious man run off a cliff would be; many former Circumcellions and lethargic Donatists now thank the Catholics.
- The Circumcellions were bands of Donatist rural militants. The comparison with binding a madman is Augustine's own; translated as written. Compare Rom 12:17.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 93.2 (CSEL 34.2:446–447; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-93-2).
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93.3CSEL 34.2:447–448
At enim quibusdam ista non prosunt. numquid ideo neglegenda est medicina, quia nonnullorum est insanabilis pestilentia? tu non adtendis nisi eos, qui ita duri sunt, ut nec istam recipiant disciplinam. de talibus enim scriptum est: Frustra flagellaui filios uestros; disciplinam non receperunt. puto tamen, quia dilectione, non odio flagellati sunt. sed debes etiam tam multos adtendere, de quorum salute gaudemus. si enim terrerentur et non docerentur, inproba quasi dominatio uideretur. rursus si docerentur et non terrerentur, uetustate consuetudinis obdurati ad capessendam uiam salutis pigrius mouerentur, quando quidem multi, quod bene nouimus, reddita sibi ratione et manifestata diuinis testimoniis ueritate respondebant nobis cupere se in ecclesiae catholicae communionem transire, sed uiolentas perditorum hominum inimicitias formidare, quas quidem pro iustitia et pro aeterna uita utique contemnere debuerunt; sed talium infirmitas, donec firmi efficiantur, sustinenda est, non desperanda. nec obliuiscendum, quod ipse dominus adhuc infirmo Petro ait: Non potes me sequi modo, sequeris adiungitur, ut non solum tenebras erroris lux ueritatis expellat, uerum etiam malae consuetudinis uincula uis timoris abrumpat, de multorum, sicut dixi, salute laetamur benedicentium nobiscum et gratias agentium deo, quod sua pollicitatione completa, qua reges terrae Christo seruituros esse promisit, sic curauit morbidos, sic sanauit infirmos.
“But these things do some people no good.” Is medicine to be neglected, then, because some people's plague is incurable? You pay attention only to those who are so hard that they do not accept even this discipline. Of such it is written: “In vain have I scourged your children; they did not receive discipline.” Yet I think they were scourged out of love, not hatred. But you ought also to pay attention to the many over whose salvation we rejoice. For if they were frightened and not taught, it would seem a kind of wicked tyranny. Again, if they were taught and not frightened, hardened by long habit they would move more sluggishly to take the way of salvation; for many, as we well know, when the reason had been given them and the truth shown by divine testimonies, answered us that they wished to pass into the communion of the Catholic Church but feared the violent hostility of desperate men. They certainly ought to have despised that for the sake of righteousness and eternal life; but the weakness of such people must be borne until they are made strong, not despaired of. Nor must we forget what the Lord himself said to Peter while he was still weak: “You cannot follow me now; you will follow …” When [saving teaching] is joined [to useful fear], so that not only does the light of truth drive out the darkness of error but the force of fear also breaks the chains of bad habit, then, as I have said, we rejoice over the salvation of many who bless God with us and give him thanks that, having fulfilled his promise by which he promised that the kings of the earth would serve Christ, he has thus cured the diseased and thus healed the weak.
Jer 2:30 (quotation, high confidence) · John 13:36 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 72:11 (71:11 LXX) (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Coercion fails with some, but it should be judged by the many it has helped; fear without teaching would be tyranny, teaching without fear too weak against habit.
- Quotations: Jer 2:30; John 13:36. Some words of the digital text appear to be lost after “sequeris” (John 13:36 continues “but you will follow afterward”); the following clause is translated by sense, with the missing words supplied in brackets from the context. The promise of kings serving Christ alludes to Ps 72:11.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 93.3 (CSEL 34.2:447–448; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-93-3).
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93.4CSEL 34.2:448–449
Non omnis, qui parcit, amicus est nec omnis, qui uerberat, inimicus. meliora sunt uulnera amici quam uoluntaria oscula inimici. melius est cum seueritate diligere quam cum lenitate decipere. utilius esurienti panis tollitur, si de cibo securus iustitiam neglegebat, quam esurienti panis frangitur, ut iniustitiae seductus adquiescat. et qui phreneticum ligat et qui lethargicum excitat, ambobus molestus ambos amat. quis nos potest amplius amare quam deus? et tamen nos non solum docere suauiter uerum etiam salubriter terrere non cessat. fomentis lenibus, quibus consolatur, saepe etiam mordacissimum medicamentum tribulationis adiungens exercet fame patriarchas etiam pios et religiosos, populum contumacem poenis grauioribus agitat, non aufert ab apostolo stimulum carnis tertio rogatus, ut uirtutem in infirmitate perficiat. diligamus etiam inimicos nostros, quia hoc iustum est et hoc praecepit deus, ut simus filii patris nostri, qui in caelis est, qui solem suum facit oriri super bonos et malos et pluit super iustos et iniustos. sed sicut ista dona eius laudamus, ita etiam flagella eius in eos, quos diligit, cogitemus.
Not everyone who spares is a friend, nor is everyone who strikes an enemy. “Better are the wounds of a friend than the willing kisses of an enemy.” It is better to love with severity than to deceive with gentleness. It is more useful to take bread away from a hungry man, if, secure about his food, he was neglecting righteousness, than to break bread for a hungry man so that he may be seduced into consenting to unrighteousness. Both he who binds a madman and he who rouses a lethargic man trouble both of them and love both. Who can love us more than God? And yet he does not cease not only to teach us gently but also to frighten us for our good. To the soothing poultices with which he comforts he often adds the most stinging medicine of tribulation: he tries with famine even the godly and devout patriarchs; he harries a stubborn people with heavier punishments; he does not take away from the apostle the thorn in the flesh, though asked three times, so that he may perfect strength in weakness. Let us love even our enemies, for this is right and this God has commanded, so that we may be sons of our Father who is in heaven, who makes his sun rise on the good and the evil and sends rain on the just and the unjust. But as we praise these gifts of his, let us also consider his scourges on those whom he loves.
Prov 27:6 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 12:7 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 12:9 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 5:44 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 5:45 (allusion, high confidence) · Heb 12:6 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Love can strike and gentleness can deceive; God himself both comforts and chastises those he loves.
- Quotation: Prov 27:6. Allusions: famine of the patriarchs (Gen 12:10; 26:1; 42–43), 2 Cor 12:7–9, Matt 5:44–45, Heb 12:6.
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 93.4 (CSEL 34.2:448–449; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-93-4).
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93.5CSEL 34.2:449–450
Putas neminem debere cogi ad iustitiam, cum legas patrem familias dixisse seruis: Quoscumque inueneritis, cogite intrare, cum legas etiam ipsum primo Saulum postea Paulum ad cognoscendam et tenendam ueritatem magna uiolentia Christi cogentis esse compulsum, nisi forte cariorem putas hominibus esse pecuniam uel qualem libet possessionem quam lucem istam, quae oculis carpitur? hanc ille caelesti uoce prostratus subito amissam non recuperauit, nisi cum sanctae incorporaretur ecclesiae. et putas nullam uim adhibendam esse homini, ut ab erroris pernicie liberetur, cum ipsum deum, quo nemo nos utilius diligit, certissimis exemplis hoc facere uideas et Christum audias dicentem: Nemo ad me uenit, nisi quem pater adtraxerit, quod fit in cordibus omnium, qui se ad eum diuinae iracundiae timore conuertunt, et noueris aliquando furem auertendis pecoribus pabulum spargere et aliquando pastorem flagello ad gregem pecora errantia reuocare?
Do you think that no one ought to be compelled to righteousness, when you read that the householder said to his servants, “Whomever you find, compel them to come in”; when you read too that Saul, later Paul, was driven by the great violence of Christ compelling him to know and hold the truth? Unless perhaps you think that money or any possession is dearer to men than this light which is taken in by the eyes! Struck down by the heavenly voice, he lost it suddenly and did not recover it until he was incorporated into the holy church. And do you think that no force should be used on a man to free him from the ruin of error, when you see by the surest examples that God himself, than whom no one loves us more usefully, does this, and you hear Christ saying, “No one comes to me unless the Father has drawn him”, which happens in the hearts of all who turn to him through fear of the divine wrath; and when you know that sometimes a thief scatters fodder to lead cattle away, and sometimes a shepherd calls straying cattle back to the flock with a whip?
Luke 14:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 9:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 9:18 (allusion, high confidence) · John 6:44 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Scripture shows compulsion toward the truth: the guests compelled to come in, Paul's blinding, and the Father's drawing.
- Quotations: Luke 14:23; John 6:44. Paul's conversion: Acts 9:3–18. Augustine's use of Luke 14:23 to justify compulsion is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): ueuit → uenit.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 93.5 (CSEL 34.2:449–450; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/91-1/#p-93-5).
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