The Conferences 12.11–13.7

Latin text: Petschenig, CSEL 13 (Latin text: Michael Petschenig (CSEL 13, 1886), digitized by Open Greek and Latin, University of Leipzig (csel-dev), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 2, vol. 11 (1894).

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Chapter 12

12.11CSEL 13:351–353

Quamobrem perfectio castitatis a laboriosis continentiae rudimentis perpetua tranquillitate discernitur. haec est enim uerae consummatio castitatis, quae non inpugnans carnalis concupiscentiae motus, sed toto horrore detestans iugem atque inuiolabilem sui retinet puritatem nec potest aliud quid esse quam sanctitas. hoc autem fiet, quando iam desinens caro aduersus spiritum concupiscere desideriis eius uirtutique consenserit, coeperintque sibi inuicem pace firmissima foederari et secundum psalmographi sententiam habitauerint fratres in unum, illam repromissam a domino beatitudinem possidentes de qua ait: si duo ex uobis consenserint super terram de omni re quamcumque petierint, fiet illis a patre meo qui in caelis est. quisquis ergo intellectualis illius Iacob, id est subplantatoris transcenderit gradum, ab illa continentiae conluctatione ac supplantatione uitiorum obstupefacto femoris neruo ad Israhelis meritum perpetua cordis directione conscendet. quem ordinem etiam beatus Dauid ita spiritus sancti uaticinatione distinxit, in primis inquiens notus in Iudaea deus, id est in anima, quae adhuc sub peccatorum confessione retinetur: Iudaea enim confessio interpretatur. in Israhel autem, id est in eo qui uidens deum siue ut quidam interpretantur rectissimus dei est, non solum notus, sed etiam magnum nomen est eius. deinde ad sublimiora nos prouocans ac uolens etiam locum ipsum quo dominus delectatur ostendere et factus est, inquit, in pace locus eius, id est non in conflictu certaminis et conluctatione uitiorum, sed in castimoniae pace et cordis tranquillitate perpetua. hunc igitur pacis locum extinctione carnalium passionum si quis meruerit obtinere, ex hoc quoque proficiens gradu ac Sion spiritalis, id est specula dei consequenter effectus erit etiam habitatio eius. non enim in conflictu continentiae, sed in iugi uirtutum specula dominus conmorator, ubi iam non retundit, non conprimit, sed in perpetuum confregit potentias arcuum, ex quibus uidelicet aduersus nos libidinum quondam iacula dirigebantur ignita uidetis ergo, quia sicut non est in conluctatione continentiae, sed in castitatis pace locus domini, ita etiam habitatio eius in specula sit et contemplatione uirtutum. unde non inmerito portae Sion cunctis Iacob tabernaculis praeferuntur: diligit enim dominus portas Sion super omnia tabernacula Iacob. quod autem per hoc ineuitabilem esse conmotionem carnis adseritis, quod urina, cum uesicam iugi stillatione repleuerit, quieta suscitet membra, licet ueris sectatoribus puritatis ad obtinendam eam nihil praeiudicet ista conmotio, quam haec sola interdum et tantum per soporem necessitas excitarit, sciendum tamen est, quod ita si conmota fuerint ad quietem propriam reducantur castitatis imperio, ut non modo cum nullo pruritu, sed ne cum minima quidem libidinis recordatione sedentur. et idcirco, ut cum lege animi lex quoque congruat corporalis, etiam in ipsius aquae potu ita est nimietas castiganda, ut umoris cotidiani illa collectio pigrius arefactis influens membris illum quem ineuitabilem putatis corporis motum non solum rarissimum, uerum etiam lentum reddat ac tepidum, frigidumque ut ita dixerim ignem et absque ullius adustionis ardore rorantem suscitet flammam instar admirabilis illius Moysaicae uisionis, ut carnis nostrae rubus innoxio igne circumdata non uratur, uel sicut illorum trium iuuenum, quibus ita rorante spiritu fornacis Chaldaeicae flamma discussa est, ut nec capillos eorum aut fimbrias odor ignis adflaret, ut illud quodammodo quod sanctis repromittitur per prophetam incipiamus iam in hoc corpore possidere: cum ambulaueris per ignem, non conbureris, et flamma non ardebit in te.

“Therefore the perfection of chastity is distinguished from the laborious rudiments of continence by its lasting tranquillity. For this is the consummation of true chastity: that it does not fight the movements of carnal desire but detests them with all horror, keeps its purity continual and inviolable, and can be nothing other than holiness. This will come about when the flesh, ceasing to “lust against the spirit,” consents to its desires and its virtue, and they begin to be bound to each other in the firmest peace, and, according to the psalmist’s saying, “brothers dwell together in unity,” possessing that blessedness promised by the Lord, of which he says: “If two of you agree on earth about anything whatever that they ask, it will be done for them by my Father who is in heaven.” Whoever, then, has passed beyond the stage of that spiritual Jacob, that is, the supplanter, will rise, the sinew of his thigh numbed, from that wrestling of continence and supplanting of the vices to the merit of Israel by the constant uprightness of his heart. This order blessed David also distinguished by the prophecy of the Holy Spirit, saying first: “God is known in Judah,” that is, in the soul that is still held in the confession of sins, for Judah is interpreted “confession.” But “in Israel,” that is, in one who sees God, or, as some interpret it, who is most upright before God, he is not only known, but “his name is great.” Then, calling us to higher things and wishing to show the very place in which the Lord delights, he says: “And his place has been made in peace,” that is, not in the conflict of battle and the wrestling with the vices, but in the peace of chastity and the lasting tranquillity of the heart. If anyone, then, deserves to obtain this place of peace by the extinction of the fleshly passions, advancing from this stage too, and having consequently become the spiritual Sion, that is, the watchtower of God, he will also be his dwelling place. For the Lord dwells not in the conflict of continence but in the continual watchtower of the virtues, where he no longer beats back or restrains, but has broken for ever “the powers of the bows,” from which the fiery darts of lust were once aimed against us. You see, then, that as the place of the Lord is not in the wrestling of continence but in the peace of chastity, so also his dwelling is in the watchtower and contemplation of the virtues. Hence the gates of Sion are rightly preferred to all the tents of Jacob: “For the Lord loves the gates of Sion above all the tents of Jacob.” As for your argument that the movement of the flesh is unavoidable because urine, when it has filled the bladder by continual dripping, rouses the resting members: although this movement, when this necessity alone sometimes arouses it, and only during sleep, is no prejudice to true followers of purity in obtaining it, you must know that, if they have been stirred, they are brought back to their own rest by the command of chastity, so that they subside not only without any itch but without even the slightest remembrance of lust. And therefore, so that the law of the body may agree with the law of the mind, excess must be curbed even in the drinking of water, so that the daily accumulation of fluid, flowing more slowly into dried members, may make that movement of the body which you think unavoidable not only very rare but also slow and lukewarm, and may stir up, so to speak, a cold fire and a flame that bedews without any burning heat, like that wonderful vision of Moses, so that the bush of our flesh, surrounded by a harmless fire, is not burned; or like that of the three young men, for whom the flame of the Chaldean furnace was so scattered by a bedewing wind that the smell of fire did not even touch their hair or the fringes of their garments; so that we may begin already in this body to possess in a way what is promised to the saints through the prophet: “When you walk through fire, you shall not be burned, and the flame shall not burn in you.”

Gal 5:17 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 133:1 (132:1 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 18:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 32:25 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 32:28 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 76:1 (75:2 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 76:2 (75:3 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 76:3 (75:4 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 87:2 (86:2 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 3:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Dan 3:27 (3:94 LXX) (allusion, high confidence) · Isa 43:2 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: True chastity is lasting peace in which flesh and spirit agree, the passage from Jacob’s wrestling to Israel’s vision, where God dwells; involuntary arousal in sleep does no harm to the pure, and moderation even in drinking water helps, so that the flesh becomes like the burning bush that is not consumed.

  • Gal 5:17; Ps 133:1 (LXX 132:1); Matt 18:19; Gen 32:25, 28 (Jacob’s thigh; Jacob interpreted “supplanter,” Israel “one who sees God”); Ps 76:1–3 (LXX 75:2–4; Cassian reads “in peace,” Salem); Ps 87:2 (LXX 86:2); Exod 3:2; Dan 3:27 (LXX 3:94) with the “bedewing wind” of the Prayer of Azariah (LXX Dan 3:50); Isa 43:2. The name interpretations are traditional etymologies.
  • The frank physical advice is translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (a for s); OCR slip (a for u); OCR slip (n for u); OCR slip (o for c); OCR slip (t for l); OCR slips; two words joined in the digital text): supplantitione → supplantatione; sab peccatorum → sub peccatorum; magnum nomen eat → magnum nomen est; anblimiora → sublimiora; nolens etiam → uolens etiam; eonlnctatione → conluctatione; hnne igitur pacis loeum → hunc igitur pacis locum; arenum → arcuum; sicnt → sicut; superomnia → super omnia; earais → carnis; cam uesicam → cum uesicam; idciroo → idcirco; adftaret → adflaret; perignem → per ignem.

Extrabiblical texts: Pr Azar 27 (Prayer of Azariah and Song of the Three Young Men [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; allusion)

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 12.11 (CSEL 13:351–353; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/12-11/#p-12-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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12.12CSEL 13:353–356

Magna enim uere atque mirifica sunt nec ulli hominum penitus nisi his tantum qui experti sunt nota quae dominus fidelibus suis adhuc in isto corruptionis uasculo constitutis ineffabili liberalitate largitur. quae propheta mentis puritate perlustrans tam ex sua quam ex illorum persona qui in hunc statum affectumque perueniunt exclamauit: mira opera tua, et anima mea cognoscit nimis. alioquin nihil noui uel magni intellegitur propheta dixisse, si alio cordis affectu uel de aliis operibus dei haec pronuntiasse credatur. nullus etenim est hominum, qui mira esse opera dei etiam ex ipsius creaturae magnitudine non agnoscat ceterum illa, quae in sanctis suis cotidiana operatione dispensat ac speciali munificentia afluenter effundit, nullus alius nisi anima perfruentis agnoscit, quae in secreto conscientiae suae ita est beneficiorum eius arbitra singularis, ut ea non solum nullo ualeat sermone disserere, sed ne sensu quidem et cogitatione conplecti, cum ab illo ignito feruore discedens ad istos materiales ac terrenos intuitus fuerit deuoluta. quis enim in se opera domini non miretur, cum insatiabilem uentris ingluuiem et sumptuosam gulae perniciosamque luxuriam ita in se uiderit fuisse conpressam, ut uix ipsum exiguum ac uilissimum cibum raro inuitusque percipiat? quis non obstupescat opera dei, qui illum ignem libidinis, quem naturalem antea et uelut inextinguibilem esse credebat, ita refrixisse persenserit, ut ne simplici quidem se corporis motu sentiat incitari? quomodo non uirtutem domini contremescat, quisque homines quondam diros atque truculentos, qui ad summum iracundiae furorem etiam blandissimis subditorum inritabantur obsequiis, ad tantam uiderit transisse lenitatem, ut non solum nullis iam conmoueantur iniuriis, sed etiam cum inlatae fuerint summa magnanimitate congaudeant? quis plane non miretur opera dei ac toto proclamet affectu: quia ego cognoui quod magnus est dominus, cum uel se uel alium quempiam ex rapacissimo liberalem, ex prodigo continentem, ex superbo humilem, ex delicato ac tenero squalidum hirsutumque perspexerit et egestate atque angustia praesentium rerum etiam uoluntarie perfruentem? ista sunt profecto mira opera dei, quae peculiariter anima prophetae similiumque eius mirificae contemplationis intuitu stupefacta cognoscit. ista sunt prodigia quae posuit super terram, quae idem propheta considerans ad admirationem eorum cunctos populos aduocat dicens: uenite. et uidete opera dei, quae posuit prodigia super terram: auferens bella usque ad fines terrae. arcum conteret, et confringet arma: et scuta conburet igni. quod enim maius potest esse prodigium quam sub momento breuissimo ex rapacissimis publicanis apostolos fieri, ex persecutoribus truculentis praedicatores euangelii patientissimos reddi, ita ut eam quam persequebantur fidem etiam effusione sui sanguinis propagarent? ista sunt opera dei quae se cotidie una cum patre filius operari protestatur dicens: pater meus usque hodie operatur, et ego operor. de istis operibus dei beatus Dauid in spiritu canens benedictus, inquit, dominus deus Israhel, qui facit mirabilia magna solus. de istis et Amos propheta qui facit, inquit, omnia et conuertit ea, et transmutat in matutinum umbram mortis. haec nempe est inmutatio dexterae excelsi. de hac salutari operatione dei orat propheta demir nam dicens: confirma deus hoc, quod operatus es in nobis. ut praetermittam illas secretas atque absconditas dispensationes dei, quas intra se peculiariter exerceri mens sanctorum omnium momentis singulis intuetur, illam caelestem infusionem laetitiae spiritalis, qua deiectus animus inspirati gaudii alacritate sustollitur, illos ignitos cordis excessus et tam ineffabilia quam inaudita solacia gaudiorum, quibus nonnumquam ignauissimo stupore torpentes ad orationem feruentissimam uelut de somno profundissimo suscitamur. hoc, inquam, est gaudium de quo beatus apostolus quod oculus, inquit, non uidit nec auris audiuit nec in cor hominis ascendit, eius scilicet qui terrenis uitiis hebetatus adhuc homo est et humanis inhaeret affectibus nihilque de istis dei muneribus intuetur. denique idem apostolus tam de se quam de similibus sibi, qui iam de humana conuersatione discesserant, subiecit dicens: nobis autem reuelauit deus per spiritum suum.

“For great indeed and wonderful, and known to no one at all except those who have experienced them, are the things which the Lord with ineffable generosity bestows on his faithful while they are still in this vessel of corruption. The prophet, surveying them with purity of mind, cried out both in his own person and in that of those who reach this state and disposition: “Wonderful are your works, and my soul knows it very well.” Otherwise the prophet would be understood to have said nothing new or great, if he were believed to have spoken these words with some other disposition of heart or about other works of God. For there is no one who does not recognize that the works of God are wonderful, even from the greatness of creation itself; but those which he dispenses in his saints by daily working and pours out abundantly with special generosity, no one knows except the soul of the one who enjoys them. In the secret of its conscience it is the sole witness of his benefits, so that it cannot express them in any words, nor even embrace them in feeling and thought, when, leaving that fiery fervor, it has fallen back to these material and earthly perceptions. For who would not marvel at the works of the Lord in himself when he sees that the insatiable greed of the belly and the costly and ruinous luxury of the palate have been so suppressed in him that he takes even a small and very cheap meal rarely and unwillingly? Who would not be astonished at the works of God when he feels that the fire of lust, which he used to believe natural and as it were inextinguishable, has so cooled that he does not feel himself stirred even by a simple movement of the body? How could anyone not tremble at the power of the Lord who sees that men once fierce and savage, who were provoked to the highest fury of anger even by the most flattering attentions of their subordinates, have passed to such gentleness that they are not only moved by no injuries but even rejoice with the greatest magnanimity when injuries are inflicted? Who, indeed, would not marvel at the works of God and cry out with all his heart, “For I know that the Lord is great,” when he sees either himself or someone else changed from most rapacious to generous, from prodigal to self-restrained, from proud to humble, from delicate and tender to unkempt and shaggy, and even enjoying of his own will poverty and scarcity of present things? These are indeed the wonderful works of God which the soul of the prophet, and of those like him, knows in a special way, astonished at the sight of a wonderful contemplation. These are the wonders which he has set upon the earth, and the same prophet, considering them, calls all peoples to marvel at them, saying: “Come and see the works of God, what wonders he has set upon the earth, taking away wars to the ends of the earth. He will break the bow and shatter the weapons, and burn the shields with fire.” For what greater wonder can there be than that in the briefest moment the most rapacious tax collectors become apostles, and savage persecutors are made most patient preachers of the gospel, so that they spread by the shedding of their own blood the faith they persecuted? These are the works of God which the Son declares he works daily together with the Father, saying: “My Father is working until now, and I am working.” Of these works of God blessed David sings in the Spirit, saying: “Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, who alone does great wonders.” Of these also the prophet Amos says: “He who makes all things and changes them, and turns the shadow of death into morning.” This indeed is “the change of the right hand of the Most High.” For this saving work of God the prophet prays, saying: “Confirm, O God, what you have wrought in us.” I pass over those secret and hidden dispensations of God which the mind of all the saints sees being carried out within itself in a special way at every moment: that heavenly inpouring of spiritual joy by which the dejected soul is lifted up by the eagerness of an inspired gladness; those fiery ecstasies of the heart and those consolations of joy as ineffable as they are unheard of, by which, when we are sunk in the most sluggish torpor, we are sometimes roused to most fervent prayer as from the deepest sleep. This, I say, is the joy of which the blessed apostle says: “What eye has not seen nor ear heard, nor has it entered into the heart of man,” that is, of one who, dulled by earthly vices, is still a man, clings to human feelings, and sees nothing of these gifts of God. Finally, the same apostle added, both of himself and of those like him who had already departed from human ways of life: “But God has revealed it to us by his Spirit.”

Ps 139:14 (138:14 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 135:5 (134:5 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 46:8 (45:9 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 46:9 (45:10 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 72:18 (71:18 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Amos 5:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 77:10 (76:11 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 68:28 (67:29 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:9 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:10 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The wonderful works of God that the psalmist praises are the inner transformations he works in the saints, turning gluttons to abstinence, the lustful to chastity, the angry to gentleness, and persecutors to apostles, known only to those who experience them.

  • Ps 139:14 (LXX 138:14); Ps 135:5 (LXX 134:5); Ps 46:8–9 (LXX 45:9–10); John 5:17; Ps 72:18 (LXX 71:18); Amos 5:8; Ps 77:10 (LXX 76:11, Latin text); Ps 68:28 (LXX 67:29); 1 Cor 2:9–10.
  • The words introducing Ps 68:28 are damaged in the digital text (“demir nam”) and are translated by sense.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (a for u); OCR slip (e for s); OCR slip (o for c); OCR slip (o for u)): nullus etenim eet → nullus etenim est; at ea non solum → ut ea non solum; com inlatae → cum inlatae; ao toto → ac toto; ddioato → delicato; dispeDsationes → dispensationes; aelnt → uelut; sascitamur → suscitamur.

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 12.12 (CSEL 13:353–356; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/12-11/#p-12-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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12.13CSEL 13:356–357

In his igitur omnibus quantum mens ad subtiliorem profecerit puritatem, tanto sublimius intuebitur deum et admirationis intra semet ipsam potius capiet incrementa quam loquendi facultatem aut sermonem narrationis inueniet. ut enim uim laetitiae huius inexpertus mente percipere, ita explicare sermone non ualebit expertus: tamquam si quis dulcedinem mellis ei qui numquam quicquam dulce gustauerit uelit sermonibus enarrare, profecto nec ille saporis illius suauitatem quam numquam ore percepit auribus capiet, nec ille dulcedinem quam gustus uoluptate cognouit uerbis poterit indicare, sed propria tantum agnitione suauitatis inlectus necesse est ut experti saporis iucunditatem intra semet ipsum solummodo tacitus admiretur. ita igitur quisquis in hunc quem praediximus uirtutum statum meruerit peruenire, haec omnia quae in suis peculiari gratia dominus operatur tacita mente perlustrans horumque omnium adtonita consideratione flammatus cum intimo cordis exclamabit affectu: mira opera tua, et anima mea cognoscit nimis. istud ergo est mirabile opus dei, hominem carneum carnales affectus in carne positum respuisse et in tanta rerum atque incursuum uarietate unum tenere animi statum atque inmobilem in omni accedentium permutatione durare. qua uirtute fundatus senex quidam cum apud Alexandriam turbis infidelium circumfusus non solum maledictis, uerum etiam grauissimis inpellentium urgueretur iniuriis eique a subsannantibus diceretur: quid miraculi Christus uester, quem colitis, fecit? ille, ut, inquit, his ac maioribus, si intuleritis, non mouear nec offendar iniuriis.

“In all these things, then, the further the mind has advanced toward a finer purity, the more sublimely it will see God, and it will gain within itself increases of wonder rather than find the power of speaking or words to tell of it. For as one without experience cannot grasp the force of this joy with his mind, so one who has experienced it cannot explain it in words. It is as if someone wished to describe in words the sweetness of honey to one who had never tasted anything sweet: the one will surely not take in with his ears the pleasantness of a taste he has never received in his mouth, nor will the other be able to express in words the sweetness he knew by the pleasure of taste; but, drawn only by his own recognition of the sweetness, he can only marvel in silence within himself at the delight of the taste he has experienced. So, then, whoever deserves to reach this state of the virtues that we have described, surveying with silent mind all these things that the Lord works in his own by special grace, and set on fire by the astonished consideration of them all, will cry out with the inmost feeling of his heart: “Wonderful are your works, and my soul knows it very well.” This, then, is the wonderful work of God: that a man of flesh, placed in the flesh, has rejected fleshly feelings, and in so great a variety of things and assaults keeps one state of soul and remains unmoved through every change of circumstance. Grounded in this virtue, a certain old man at Alexandria, surrounded by crowds of unbelievers who pressed him not only with curses but with the most grievous insults, was asked mockingly: “What miracle has your Christ, whom you worship, done?” He replied: “This: that I am neither moved nor offended by these insults, or by greater ones if you inflict them.”

Ps 139:14 (138:14 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Like the taste of honey, the joy of these gifts cannot be described but only known by experience; God’s wonderful work is a steadfast soul, like the old man in Alexandria who said Christ’s miracle was that he was not moved by insults.

  • Ps 139:14 (LXX 138:14).

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 12.13 (CSEL 13:356–357; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/12-11/#p-12-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Petschenig's Latin text (CSEL 13, 1886); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 11 translation (Gibson, 1894), which omits Conference 22 (checked against the Latin only).

12.14CSEL 13:357

GERMANVS: Quoniam nos admiratio non humanae huius neque terrenae, sed plane caelestis atque angelicae castitatis ita subito stupore confudit, ut terrorem magis desperationis incuteret quam ad expetendam se nostros animos prouocaret, quaesumus ut nos de obseruantiae qualitate ac temporis modo, quo adquiri uel perfici ualeat, doctrina plenissimae disputationis instituas, quatenus et consummari eam posse credamus et ad expetendam deinceps spatio constituti temporis animemur. inconprehensibilem namque eam in carne hac positis quodammodo iudicamus, nisi nobis ordo quidam ac uia qua ad illam ualeat perueniri certa ratione pandatur.

Germanus: “Wonder at this chastity, which is not human or earthly but plainly heavenly and angelic, has so confounded us with sudden astonishment that it has struck us with the terror of despair rather than stirring our souls to seek it. We therefore ask you to instruct us, with the teaching of a very full discussion, about the manner of the practice and the length of time in which it can be acquired or perfected, so that we may believe that it can be achieved and be encouraged to seek it within a fixed space of time. For we judge it in a way beyond the reach of those placed in this flesh, unless an order and way by which it can be reached is shown to us by a sure method.”

Notes and citation

Summary: Germanus, daunted by so high an ideal, asks for the method and time needed to attain it.

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 12.14 (CSEL 13:357; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/12-11/#p-12-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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12.15CSEL 13:357–358

CHAEREMON: Temerarium satis est super consummatione huius de qua loquimur castitatis in tanta praesertim uel uoluntatum diuersitate uel uirium certam temporis definire mensuram, quae non facile etiam in istis materialibus artibus ac uisibilibus disciplinis decerni potest. secundum intentionem namque animi atque ingenii qualitatem necesse est eas ab unoquoque uel celerius uel tardius adprehendi. rationem tamen obseruantiae et temporis modum, intra quem eius possibilitas agnoscatur, constantissime possumus praefinire. quisquis igitur extractus a cunctis confabulationibus otiosis et mortificatus ab omni ira ac sollicitudine curaque mundana duobus tantum paxamatiis fuerit cotidiana refectione contentus, et aquae satietate subtracta quietem somni trium siue ut alii statuerunt quattuor horarum spatio terminarit, nec tamen laborum aut continentiae huius merito, sed miseratione domini eam se crediderit adepturum, quia sine hac fide uana est omnis humani laboris intentio, non amplius quam sex mensibus perfectionem istius inpossibilem sibi non esse cognoscet. euidens tamen est iam proximae puritatis indicium incipere cum de proprii laboris industria non sperare. si enim mm uersiculi illius unusquisque in ueritate conceperit: nisi dominus aedificauerit domum, in uanum laborauerunt qui aedificant eam, sequitur ut nec de puritatis suae meritis extollatur, intellegens eam se non sua diligentia, sed domini misericordia consecutum, nec contra alios inmiti rigore moueatur, sciens humanam nihil esse uirtutem, si eam uirtus diuina non iuuerit.

Chaeremon: “It is quite rash to fix a definite measure of time for the perfecting of this chastity of which we are speaking, especially with so great a diversity of wills and strengths, since this cannot easily be determined even in the material arts and visible disciplines; for each person must grasp them more quickly or more slowly according to the intentness of his mind and the quality of his talent. Yet we can lay down with complete confidence the method of the practice and the measure of time within which its possibility may be recognized. Whoever, then, withdrawn from all idle conversations and dead to all anger, anxiety, and worldly care, is content with only two paxamatia as his daily meal, and, taking less than his fill of water, limits the rest of sleep to three, or, as others have laid down, four hours, and yet believes that he will attain it not by the merit of his labors or of this continence but by the Lord’s mercy (since without this faith every effort of human labor is vain), will know within no more than six months that its perfection is not impossible for him. It is, however, a clear sign that purity is already near when one begins not to hope in the diligence of one’s own labor. For if each one has truly grasped the sense of that verse, “Unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain who build it,” it follows that he will neither be lifted up by the merits of his purity, understanding that he has obtained it not by his own diligence but by the Lord’s mercy, nor be moved with harsh rigor against others, knowing that human virtue is nothing unless divine virtue helps it.

Ps 127:1 (126:1 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Chaeremon prescribes withdrawal from idle talk and anger, two small loaves a day, limited water, and three or four hours’ sleep, with trust in God’s mercy rather than one’s own effort, and says that within six months one will know chastity is possible.

  • Ps 127:1 (LXX 126:1). The paxamatium was a small dry loaf, about a pound in weight (see Conference 2.19). The word “sense” translates a damaged word of the digital text (“mm”).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip (a for n); OCR slip (e for s); OCR slips; OCR slips (n for u)): vel celerins uel tardins → uel celerius uel tardius; sine at alii → siue ut alii; uana eet → uana est; ia ueritate → in ueritate; ia uanum → in uanum.

Topics: Ethics, Fasting

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 12.15 (CSEL 13:357–358; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/12-11/#p-12-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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12.16CSEL 13:358–361

Proinde unicuique nostrum aduersus spiritum fornicationis totis uiribus deendanti uictoria singularis est de merito conatus sui remedium non sperare. quae fides licet facilis ac plana omnibus uideatur, tamen tam difficile ab incipientibus quam ipsius castitatis perfectio possidetur. nam cum eis uel particula puritatis adriserit, continuo in conscientiae suae secretis elatione quadam subtiliter inlabente sibimet blandiuntur, credentesque eam se diligentiae suae studio consecutos necesse est ut superno illo praesidio paululum denudati tamdiu illis quas diuina uirtus extinxerat passionibus opprimantur, quamdiu experientia docente cognoscant se uiribus atque industria sua puritatis bonum obtinere non posse. et ut disputationem nostram de fine plenissimae castitatis longa lucubratione confectam breuiter concludamus in unum omnia quae copiose sparsimque digesta sunt colligentes, haec est consummatio castitatis, ut uigilantem monachum oblectatio libidinis nulla perstringat, ut quiescentem somniorum non fallat inlusio, sed cum dormienti tantum per sopitae mentis incuriam conmotio carnis obrepserit, quemadmodum sine ulla titillatione uoluptatis excita est, ita etiam sine ullo pruritu corporis conquiescat. haec de castitatis fine, quantum potuimus, non uerbis, sed experientia magistrante digessimus. quae licet a desidiosis ac neglegentibus arbitrer inpossibilia forsitan iudicanda, certus tamen sum a studiosis ac spiritalibus uiris agnoscenda pariter ac probanda. tantum namque inter hominem distat et hominem, quantum et illa ad quae animi eorum tendit intentio ab inuicem disparantur, id est uel caelum ab inferno uel Christus a Beliar, secundum sententiam domini saluatoris: si quis mihi ministrat, me sequatur, et ubi sum ego, illic et minister meus erit, et iterum: ubi est thesaurus tuus, ibi erit et cor tuum. Huc usque beatus Chaeremon de castitatis perfectione disseruit admirabilemque doctrinam sublimissimae puritatis tali sermone conclusit, suadens stupentibus atque anxiis nobis, ut, quia iam noctis pars maior effluxerat, tradita quieti paululum membra naturali soporis cibo minime fraudaremus, ne languens torpore corporis sui etiam mens uigorem sanctae intentionis amitteret.

“Therefore, for each of us who struggles with all his strength against the spirit of sexual immorality, the singular victory is not to hope for a remedy from the merit of his own effort. Although this faith seems easy and plain to all, it is as hard for beginners to possess as the perfection of chastity itself. For when even a little purity has smiled on them, at once, as a kind of elation slips subtly into the secret places of their conscience, they flatter themselves; and believing that they have obtained it by the effort of their own diligence, they must be stripped a little of that heavenly protection and be oppressed by those passions which divine power had extinguished, until they learn by experience that they cannot obtain the good of purity by their own strength and effort. And to conclude briefly our discussion on the end of fullest chastity, which has been carried on through a long night’s vigil, gathering into one all that has been set out at length and in scattered fashion: this is the consummation of chastity, that no delight of lust should touch the monk when awake, that no delusion of dreams should deceive him at rest, but that when, only while he sleeps, a movement of the flesh has stolen upon him through the carelessness of the sleeping mind, it should subside without any itch of the body, just as it was roused without any titillation of pleasure. These things about the end of chastity we have set out as best we could, with experience rather than words as our teacher. Although I think that the slothful and negligent will perhaps judge them impossible, I am sure that the zealous and spiritual will recognize and approve them alike. For there is as great a distance between man and man as between the things toward which their minds are directed, that is, as heaven from hell or Christ from Belial, according to the saying of the Lord and Savior: “If anyone serves me, let him follow me, and where I am, there will my servant be also,” and again: “Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.” Thus far blessed Chaeremon discoursed on the perfection of chastity. He closed his admirable teaching on the most sublime purity with these words, urging us, astonished and anxious as we were, since the greater part of the night had now passed, to give our limbs a little rest and by no means to cheat them of the natural food of sleep, lest the mind too, languishing with the torpor of the body, should lose the vigor of its holy intention.

2 Cor 6:15 (allusion, high confidence) · John 12:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 6:21 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: The key victory is to hope for chastity from God and not oneself; Chaeremon sums up perfect chastity as freedom from lust awake and from deceiving dreams asleep, and sends them to rest.

  • 2 Cor 6:15; John 12:26; Matt 6:21. “Struggles” translates a damaged word of the digital text (“deendanti”).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (n for u)): paaialam → paululum; Hnc usque → Huc usque.

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 12.16 (CSEL 13:358–361; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/12-11/#p-12-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 13

13.1CSEL 13:361

Cum ad synaxin matutinam percepto paululum sopore remeantes senem opperiremur, ingenti abba Germanus scrupulo mouebatur, quod in praeterita disputatione, cuius uirtus summum desiderium incognitae nobis castitatis infuderat, unius adiectione sententiae beatus senex meritum humanae cassasset industriae, adstruens hominem, quamuis summis ad bonam frugem uiribus enitatur, tamen boni conpotem esse non posse, nisi id diuini tantum muneris largitate, non operis sui studio percepisset. hanc igitur quaestionem adtonite uoluentibus nobis progressus cellam beatus Chaeremon, cum quiddam nos inuicem mussitare sensisset, solito breuius orationum atque psalmorum sollemnitate transcursa, quid moueret, inquirit.

When, after a little sleep, we were returning to the morning synaxis and waiting for the old man, Abba Germanus was troubled by a great scruple: that in the previous discussion, whose power had filled us with the highest desire for a chastity unknown to us, the blessed old man had, by adding a single sentence, made void the merit of human effort, maintaining that a man, however much he strives with the utmost strength toward good fruit, cannot possess the good unless he has received it solely by the generosity of the divine gift, and not by the effort of his own work. As we were turning this question over in astonishment, blessed Chaeremon came out of his cell, and, sensing that we were murmuring something to each other, went through the solemn office of prayers and psalms more briefly than usual and asked what was troubling us.

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Summary: Germanus is troubled that Chaeremon seemed to deny any merit to human effort in attaining chastity, and Chaeremon asks what is troubling them.

  • Conference 13, on God’s protection and the relation of grace and free will, was attacked by Prosper of Aquitaine (Against the Conferencer, ca. 433) as departing from Augustine; later writers associated it with what came to be called “Semipelagianism.” It is translated exactly as written, without taking sides.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): infuderat. unius → infuderat, unius; studio. percepisset → studio percepisset.

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 13.1 (CSEL 13:361; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/12-11/#p-13-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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13.2CSEL 13:361–363

Tum GERMANVS: Quantum excellentissimae, inquit, sublimitate uirtutis, quae nocturna disputatione patefacta est, paene ut ita dixerim a fide possibilitatis excludimur, tantum nobis (pace tui dictum sit) uidetur absurdum, si laborum stipendium, id est perfectio castitatis, quae instantia proprii sudoris adquiritur, non specialiter laborantis deputetur industriae. ineptum est enim, ut si uerbi gratia agricolam erga culturam terrae inremissum studium uiderimus inpendere, non illius efficaciae adscribamus et fructum.

Then Germanus said: “As much as we are almost shut out, if I may say so, from belief in its possibility by the sublimity of the most excellent virtue that was disclosed in the night’s discussion, so much does it seem to us absurd (by your leave) that the wage of the labors, that is, the perfection of chastity, which is acquired by the persistence of one’s own sweat, should not be credited particularly to the effort of the one who labors. For it is foolish, if, for example, we see a farmer giving unremitting effort to cultivating the land, that we should not ascribe the harvest also to his effectiveness.”

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Summary: Germanus objects that chastity, won by one’s own labor, should be credited to that labor, as a farmer’s harvest is to his work.

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 13.2 (CSEL 13:361–363; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/12-11/#p-13-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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13.3CSEL 13:363–365

CHAEREMON: Hoc ipso quod proposuistis exemplo euidentius adprobatur nihil posse perficere sine adiutorio dei laborantis industriam. nec enim agricola cum omnes conatus suos in excolendis expenderit terris, confestim etiam prouentum segetum et ubertatem frugum suae poterit industriae deputare, quam inritam esse frequenter expertus est, nisi eam et pluuiarum oportunitas et hiemis tranquilla serenitas subsequatur, ita ut adultos iam fructus ac perfecta maturitate solidatos de manu quodammodo tenentium uiderimus plerumque praereptos nihilque laborantibus illam iugem sudoris instantiam contulisse, quia non fuit domini opitulatione directa. sicut igitur inertibus agricolis, qui sua frequenti uomere arua non subigunt, hanc ubertatem segetum pietas diuina non confert, ita laborantibus pernox sollicitudo non proderit, nisi misericordia domini fuerit prosperata. in quo tamen humana superbia nullatenus se gratiae dei uel exaequare uel admiscere contendat participemque se in muneribus dei per hoc conetur inserere, ut laborem suum auctorem esse diuinae existimet largitatis ac prouentum copiosissimarum frugum industriae suae meritis respondisse glorietur. consideret namque ac ueridica examinatione perpendat, quod ne ipsos quidem conatus, quos pro desiderio opulentiae intentus exercuit, suis uiribus inpendere potuisset, nisi eum ad exercendum omne opus ruris protectio domini ac misericordia roborasset, et inefficax eius uoluntas fuisset ac uirtus, nisi etiam peragendi copiam, quae nonnumquam uel siccitatis uel imbrium nimietate fraudatur, diuina clementia praestitisset. nam cum et boum uirtus et sanitas corporis et omnium effectus operum actuumque prosperitas a domino fuerit condonata, orandum est ne fiat ei ut scriptum est caelum aereum et terra ferrea, et ne residuum lucustae comedat bruchus et residuum bruchi eruca deuoret et residuum erucae robigo consumat. nec in hoc tantum eget diuinitatis auxilio agricolae laborantis industria, nisi etiam insperatos auertat casus, quibus, etiamsi desiderata fructuum fecunditate ager fuerit opimatus, non solum spei suae uana expectatione frustrabitur, uerum etiam perceptarum et reconditarum iam uel in area uel in horreo frugum ubertate fraudabitur. quibus manifeste colligitur non solum actuum, uerum etiam cogitationum bonarum ex deo esse principium, qui nobis et initia sanctae uoluntatis inspirat et uirtutem atque oportunitatem eorum quae recte cupimus tribuit peragendi: omne enim datum bonum et omne donum perfectum de sursum est descendens patre luminum. qui et incipit quae bona sunt et exsequitur et consummat in nobis, dicente apostolo: qui autem dat semen seminanti, et panem ad manducandum praestabit et multiplicabit semen uestrum et crescere faciet fructus iustitiae uestrae. nostrum uero est, ut cotidie adtrahentem nos gratiam dei humiliter subsequamur, uel certe dura ceruice et incircumcisis ut scriptum est auribus eidem resistentes per Hieremiam mereamur audire: numquid qui cadit, non resurget? aut qui auersus est, non reuertetur? quare ergo auersus est populus iste in Hierusalem auersione contentiosa? indurauerunt ceruices suas, noluerunt reuerti.

Chaeremon: “By the very example you have put forward it is proved more plainly that the effort of the one who labors can accomplish nothing without God’s help. For when the farmer has spent all his efforts in cultivating the land, he cannot at once credit the yield of the crops and the abundance of the harvest to his own effort, which he has often found to be in vain unless the timeliness of the rains and the calm fair weather of winter follow it; so that we have often seen fruits already grown and firmed in full ripeness snatched, as it were, from the hands of those who held them, and that constant persistence of sweat has given the laborers nothing, because it was not directed by the Lord’s help. Just as, then, divine kindness does not give this abundance of crops to idle farmers who do not work their fields with frequent ploughing, so all-night anxiety will not profit those who labor unless it has been prospered by the Lord’s mercy. Yet in this let human pride by no means try either to make itself equal to the grace of God or to mix itself with it, and to insert itself as a sharer in God’s gifts by thinking that its labor is the cause of the divine generosity, and boasting that the yield of most abundant crops has answered to the merits of its own effort. For let it consider and weigh with truthful examination that it could not have spent by its own strength even those efforts which it put forth intent on its desire for wealth, unless the Lord’s protection and mercy had strengthened it for carrying out all the work of the field, and its will and strength would have been ineffective unless the divine mercy had also provided the means of accomplishing it, which is sometimes cheated either by drought or by too much rain. For even when the strength of the oxen, the health of the body, and the prosperity of all works and actions have been granted by the Lord, one must pray that it may not happen to him, as it is written, that “the heaven be brass and the earth iron,” and that “what the locust has left the caterpillar may eat, and what the caterpillar has left the cankerworm may devour, and what the cankerworm has left the mildew may consume.” Nor does the effort of the laboring farmer need divine help in this alone, but also that he may avert unexpected accidents by which, even if the field has been enriched with the desired fruitfulness of crops, he will not only be cheated by the vain expectation of his hope, but will even be robbed of the abundance of the crops already gathered and stored on the threshing floor or in the barn. From this it is plainly gathered that the beginning not only of good actions but also of good thoughts is from God, who both inspires in us the beginnings of a holy will and grants the strength and opportunity to carry out what we rightly desire. For “every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights,” who both begins what is good and carries it on and completes it in us, as the apostle says: “He who gives seed to the sower will also supply bread to eat, and will multiply your seed and increase the fruits of your righteousness.” But it is ours humbly to follow each day the grace of God that draws us, or else, resisting it “with a stiff neck and uncircumcised ears,” as it is written, to deserve to hear through Jeremiah: “Shall one who falls not rise again? Or shall one who has turned away not return? Why then has this people in Jerusalem turned away with a stubborn turning? They have hardened their necks, they have refused to return.”

Deut 28:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Joel 1:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Jas 1:17 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 9:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 7:51 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 8:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 8:5 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Chaeremon answers that the farmer’s own example shows that effort achieves nothing without God, who sends rain, gives strength, and averts disaster; the beginning of good actions and thoughts is from God, and it is ours to follow his grace or resist it.

  • Deut 28:23; Joel 1:4; Jas 1:17; 2 Cor 9:10; Acts 7:51; Jer 8:4–5 (Latin text).
  • The statement that the beginning of good thoughts is from God, and that it is ours to follow or resist grace, is translated as written; the balance between grace and free will in this conference is developed in the following sections.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (e for c); OCR slip (e for s); OCR slip (n for u); OCR slips; stray period in the digital text; two words joined in the digital text): eipenderit → expenderit; expertus eet → expertus est; piuMaram → pluuiarum; eopiosissimarum → copiosissimarum; ac misericordii roborasset → ac misericordia roborasset; ac uirtus. nisi etiam → ac uirtus, nisi etiam; boum uitus et saoitas eorporis → boum uirtus et sanitas corporis; ei meat scriptum → ei ut scriptum; erneae → erucae; industria. nisi etiam → industria, nisi etiam; nbertate → ubertate; actuum. uerum → actuum, uerum; nt cotidie → ut cotidie; d nra ceruice → dura ceruice; scriptum estauribus → scriptum est auribus.

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 13.3 (CSEL 13:363–365; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/12-11/#p-13-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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13.4CSEL 13:365

GERMANVS: Huic sensui, cuius pietas abrupte a nobis non potest inprobari, illud uidetur obsistere quod ad destructionem liberi tendit arbitrii. nam cum multos gentilium, qui utique diuini adiutorii gratiam non merentur, non solum frugalitatis atque patientiae, sed, quod magis mirum est, etiam castitatis uideamus fulgere uirtutibus, quomodo captiuato liberae uoluntatis arbitrio dei munere conlatae illis fuisse credendae sunt, cum utique mundanae sapientiae sectatores non solum dei gratiam, sed ipsum etiam uerum deum penitus ignorantes, quantum uel serie lectionis uel quorundam traditione cognouimus, summam castimoniae puritatem proprii laboris industria possedisse dicantur?

Germanus: “This view, whose piety cannot be rashly rejected by us, seems to be opposed by the fact that it tends to the destruction of free will. For since we see many of the pagans, who certainly do not merit the grace of divine help, shining not only with the virtues of frugality and patience but, what is more wonderful, even of chastity, how are we to believe that these were conferred on them by God’s gift, with the choice of their free will taken captive, when the followers of worldly wisdom, knowing not only nothing of God’s grace but nothing even of the true God himself, are said, as we have learned from the course of our reading or from the tradition of certain people, to have possessed the highest purity of chastity by the effort of their own labor?”

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Summary: Germanus objects that this view destroys free will, since pagan philosophers, ignorant of God and his grace, are said to have attained chastity by their own effort.

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 13.4 (CSEL 13:365; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/12-11/#p-13-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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13.5CSEL 13:365–367

CHAEREMON: Gratum mihi est quod, dum summo agnoscendae ueritatis amore flammamini, quaedam etiam inepta proponitis, quorum obiectione probatior atque ut ita dixerim exploratior catholicae fidei uirtus adpareat. quis etenim sapiens tam contrariis propositionibus uteretur, ut caelestem castimoniae puritatem, quam hesterna die nec per dei gratiam mortalium cuiquam adserebatis posse conferri, nunc eandem etiam a gentilibus crederet uirtute propria fuisse possessam? sed quia haec explorandae procul dubio ut dictum est studio ueritatis opponitis, quid de his teneamus aduertite. primum philosophos nequaquam credendum est talem animi castitatem qualis a nobis exigitur adsecutos, quibus iniungitur ut non solum fornicatio, sed ne inmunditia quidem nominetur in nobis. habuerunt autem illi quandamμsϱιϰύγν, hoc est portiunculam castitatis, id est abstinentiam carnis, ut tantum a coitu libidinem cohercerent: hanc autem internam mentis ac perpetuam corporis puritatem non dicam opere adsequi, sed nec cogitatione potuerunt. denique famosissimus ille ipsorum Socrates hoc, ut ipsi concelebrant, de se non erubuit profiteri. nam cum intuens eum quidam ϕυσιογνώμιsν dixisset: ὸ́μματα πσιδεϱαστοι̃, hoc est oculi corruptoris puerorum, et inruentes in eum discipuli inlatum magistro uellent ultum ire conuicium, indignationem eorum hac dicitur conpressise sententia: παύσασϑε, έται̃ϱοτ εἰμὶ γάϱ, έπέχω δέ, id est: quiescite, o sodales: etenim sum, sed contineo. apertissime igitur non solum adsertione nostra, sed etiam ipsorum professione monstratur consummationem tantummodo inpudicitiae, id est conmixtionis turpitudinem uiolenta ab illis necessitate conpressam, non tamen desiderium de cordibus eorum et oblectationem illius passionis exclusam. cum quo autem horrore proferenda est illa sententia Diogenis? factum enim, quod philosophos mundi huius uelut quiddam memorabile proferre non puduit, neque dici a nobis sine uerecundia neque audiri potest. nam cuidam in adulterii crimine puniendo, ut ferunt, ait: to δωϱεὰν πωλοὶμενον ϑανάτω̢ μὴ ἀγόϱαζε, id est: quod gratis uenditur, morte non emas. constat ergo illos uerae castitatis quae a nobis expetitur nec agnouisse uirtutem, et ideo satis certum est circumcisionem nostram, quae in spiritu est, non posse nisi dei tantum munere possideri et his inesse solummodo, qui deo tota spiritus sui contritione deseruiunt

Chaeremon: “I am glad that, burning with the greatest love of knowing the truth, you put forward even some foolish things, so that by your objection the strength of the catholic faith may appear better proved and, if I may say so, more thoroughly tested. For what wise man would use such contradictory propositions as to believe that the heavenly purity of chastity, which yesterday you maintained could not be conferred on any mortal even by God’s grace, was now possessed even by pagans by their own strength? But since you raise these things, no doubt, as has been said, out of zeal for searching out the truth, notice what we hold about them. First, we must by no means believe that the philosophers attained such chastity of soul as is required of us, who are commanded that not only sexual immorality but not even uncleanness be named among us. They had a kind of partial chastity, that is, a small portion of chastity, namely abstinence of the flesh, so that they restrained their lust only from intercourse; but this inner purity of mind and lasting purity of body they could not attain, I will not say in practice, but even in thought. Finally that most famous of them, Socrates, as they themselves celebrate, was not ashamed to declare this of himself. For when a certain physiognomist, looking at him, said: “The eyes of a corrupter of boys,” and his disciples, rushing at him, wanted to avenge the insult offered to their master, he is said to have checked their indignation with this saying: “Stop, friends; for I am, but I restrain myself.” It is shown most clearly, then, not only by our assertion but by their own profession, that only the consummation of unchastity, that is, the shamefulness of intercourse, was suppressed by them by violent necessity, but that the desire and delight of that passion was not shut out of their hearts. And with what horror must that saying of Diogenes be quoted! For what the philosophers of this world were not ashamed to put forward as something memorable cannot be spoken by us or heard without shame. For to someone who was to be punished for the crime of adultery, he is reported to have said: “Do not buy with death what is sold for nothing.” It is certain, then, that they did not even know the virtue of the true chastity that is sought by us; and therefore it is quite certain that our circumcision, which is in the spirit, can be possessed only by God’s gift, and is present only in those who serve God with the whole contrition of their spirit.

Eph 5:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 2:29 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Chaeremon replies that the pagan philosophers had only a partial chastity, restraining outward acts but not inner desire, as sayings of Socrates and Diogenes show; true chastity, the circumcision of the spirit, is God’s gift.

  • Eph 5:3; Rom 2:29. The anecdote of Socrates and the physiognomist (Zopyrus) is known from Cicero, Tusculan Disputations 4.80, and On Fate 10, in a different form; the saying ascribed to Diogenes the Cynic is not otherwise identified. The Greek phrases in the digital text are partly garbled and are translated from the Latin glosses given by Cassian. Neither passage is in the site’s list of extrabiblical texts.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip (a for u); OCR slip (e for o); OCR slip (e for s); OCR slip and words joined; OCR slips): non solam fornicatio → non solum fornicatio; mmunditiaquidem → inmunditia quidem; id eet abstinentiam → id est abstinentiam; at tantum a coitu → ut tantum a coitu; ipserum → ipsorum; de se nen erubuit → de se non erubuit; hoc eet oenli → hoc est oculi; nen tamen desiderium → non tamen desiderium; sntem herrore → autem horrore.

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 13.5 (CSEL 13:365–367; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/12-11/#p-13-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Petschenig's Latin text (CSEL 13, 1886); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 11 translation (Gibson, 1894), which omits Conference 22 (checked against the Latin only).

13.6CSEL 13:367–368

Et idcirco licet in multis, immo in omnibus possit ostendi semper auxilio dei homines indigere nec aliquid humanam fragilitatem quod ad salutem pertinet per se solam, id est sine adiutorio dei posse perficere, in nullo tamen euidentius quam in adquisitione atque custodia castitatis ostenditur. ut enim tantisper de integritatis eius difficultate disputatio differatur, de instrumentis eius breuiter interim disputemus. quis praeualeat quaeso quamuis feruens spiritu uel squalorem solitudinis uel sicci panis non dicam cotidianam esuriem, sed ipsam saturitatem nulla hominum laude suffultus suis uiribus sustinere? quis aquae perpetuam sitim sine domini consolatione tolerare illumque dulcem ac delectabilem matutinum soporem humanis fraudare oculis et intra terminos horarum quattuor omnem quietis refectionem iugi possit lege concludere? quis indesinentem lectionis instantiam, quis inremissam operis sedulitatem nullum praesentis lucri commodum captans absque gratia dei explere sufficiat? quae omnia sicut desiderari a nobis iugiter absque diuina inspiratione non possunt, ita nec perfici quidem sine eius auxilio ullatenus queunt. et ut haec eadem non solum probata nobis experientiae disciplina, sed etiam certis indiciis et argumentis manifestiora reddamus, nonne in multis quae utiliter optamus inplere, cum desiderii plenus ardor ac uoluntas perfecta non desit, interpellans quaecumque fragilitas cassat uota concepta nec proposito nostro adsistit effectus, nisi uirtus perficiendi fuerit domini miseratione donata, ita ut, cum sit innumera multitudo illorum qui fideliter uirtutum studiis desiderent inhaerere, summam tamen eorum qui haec perficere uel tolerare praeualeant inuenias raritatem? ut praetermittam quod ne tunc quidem, cum omnino nulla nos arcet infirmitas, facultas uniuersa quae uolumus peragendi nostrae subiacet potestati. nam neque remotionis silentium nec districtionem ieiuniorum nec lectionis instantiam etiam illo quo possumus tempore pro nostro arbitrio retentamus, sed quibusdam occurrentibus causis etiam inuitissimi frequenter retrahimur a salutaribus institutis, ita ut uel loci uel temporis copiam, in quo haec exercere possimus, necesse sit nos a domino deprecari. nec sufficere nobis id quod possumus certum est, nisi etiam oportunitas peragendi ea quae nobis utique possibilia sunt a domino tribuatur (de quibus et apostolus quoniam uoluimus, inquit, uenire ad uos et semel et iterum, et inpediuit nos Satanas), ita ut nonnumquam nos etiam utiliter ab istis spiritalibus sentiamus studiis auocari, ut, dum nolentibus nobis interrumpitur nostri cursus intentio ut infirmitati carnis aliquid relaxamus, etiam inuiti ad salutarem perseuerantiam reseruemur. de qua dispensatione dei simile aliquid beatus apostolus propter quod, inquit, ter dominum rogaui ut discederet a me. et dixit mihi: sufficit tibi gratia mea: nam uirtus in infirmitate perficitur, et iterum: quid enim oremus secundum quod oportet nescimus.

“And therefore, although it can be shown in many, indeed in all things, that men always need God’s help and that human frailty can accomplish nothing that concerns salvation by itself alone, that is, without God’s help, yet in nothing is this shown more clearly than in the acquiring and keeping of chastity. For, to put off for a while the discussion of the difficulty of its integrity, let us meanwhile speak briefly of its instruments. Who, I ask, however fervent in spirit, could endure by his own strength, supported by no human praise, the squalor of the desert, or the dry bread, I will not say its daily hunger, but even its full measure? Who could bear the continual thirst for water without the Lord’s consolation, and cheat human eyes of that sweet and delightful morning sleep, and confine all the refreshment of rest by a constant rule within the limit of four hours? Who could manage, without the grace of God, unceasing persistence in reading and unremitting diligence in work, seeking no advantage of present gain? All these things, just as they cannot be continually desired by us without divine inspiration, so neither can they in any way be accomplished without his help. And to make these same things plainer, not only as proved to us by the discipline of experience but also by sure signs and arguments: is it not so that in many useful things we wish to carry out, when neither full ardor of desire nor perfect will is lacking, some interfering frailty makes void the vows we have conceived, and the effect does not attend our purpose unless the power of accomplishing it has been given by the Lord’s mercy? So much so that, though there is a countless multitude of those who faithfully desire to cling to the pursuit of the virtues, you find very few indeed who are able to carry them out or endure them. Not to mention that even when no infirmity at all holds us back, the full power of doing what we wish does not lie in our control. For we do not keep, according to our own choice, the silence of withdrawal, the strictness of fasts, or persistence in reading, even at the time when we are able; but when certain circumstances arise we are often drawn away from our saving practices even very much against our will, so that we must beg from the Lord the opportunity of place or time in which we can practise them. And it is certain that what we are able to do is not enough for us unless the opportunity of carrying out what is certainly possible for us is also granted by the Lord (of which the apostle says: “For we wanted to come to you, once and again, and Satan hindered us”). So much so that we sometimes feel that we are called away from these spiritual pursuits for our good, so that, while the intention of our course is interrupted against our will and we relax something for the weakness of the flesh, we may be kept, even unwillingly, for saving perseverance. Of such a dispensation of God the blessed apostle says something similar: “For this I asked the Lord three times that it might depart from me. And he said to me: ‘My grace is sufficient for you, for power is made perfect in weakness,’” and again: “For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought.”

1 Thess 2:18 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 12:8 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 12:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:26 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Chaeremon argues that nothing concerning salvation, least of all chastity and its ascetic means, can be accomplished without God’s help, which gives both the desire and the power and opportunity to carry it out.

  • 1 Thess 2:18; 2 Cor 12:8–9; Rom 8:26.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (a for s); OCR slip (a for u); OCR slip (n for m)): id eat → id est; eaidentius → euidentius; comnodum → commodum; oam sit → cum sit; inpediuit DOS → inpediuit nos; intentio at infirmitati → intentio ut infirmitati.

Topics: Fasting

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 13.6 (CSEL 13:367–368; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/12-11/#p-13-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Petschenig's Latin text (CSEL 13, 1886); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 11 translation (Gibson, 1894), which omits Conference 22 (checked against the Latin only).

13.7CSEL 13:368–370

Propositum namque dei, quo non ob hoc hominem fecerat ut periret, sed ut in perpetuum uiueret, manet inmobile. cuius benignitas cum bonae uoluntatis in nobis quantulamcumque scintillam emicuisse perspexerit uel quam ipse tamquam de dura silice nostri cordis excuderit, confouet eam et exsuscitat suaque inspiratione confortat, uolens omnes homines saluos fieri et ad agnitionem ueritatis uenire, quia non est, inquit, uoluntas ante patrem uestrum qui in caelis est ut pereat unus ex pusillis istis, et iterum nec uult, inquit, deus perire animam, sed retractat cogitans ne penitus pereat qui abiectus est uerax namque est. et non mentitur, cum obtestatione definiens: uiuo ego, dicit dominus deus: quia nolo mortem inpii, sed ut conuertatur a uia sua, et uiuat. qui enim ut pereat unus ex pusillis non habet uoluntatem, quomodo sine ingenti sacrilegio putandus est non uniuersaliter omnes, sed quosdam saluos fieri uelle pro omnibus? ergo quicumque pereunt, contra illius pereunt uoluntatem, ita eo contra unumquemque eorum cotidie proclamante: conuertimini a uiis uestris pessimis: et quare morimini domus Israhel? et iterum: quotiens uolui congregare filios tuos, sicut gallina congregat pullos suos sub alas suas, et noluisti. et: quare, inquit, auersus est populus iste in Hierusalem auersione contentiosa? indurauerunt facies suas, noluerunt reuerti. praesto est ergo cotidie Christi gratia, quae, dum uult omnes homines saluos fieri et ad agnitionem ueritatis uenire, cunctos absque ulla exceptione conuocat dicens: uenite ad me omnes qui laboratis et onerati estis, et ego reficiam uos. si autem non omnes uniuersaliter, sed quosdam aduocat, sequitur ut nec omnes sint onerati uel originali uel actuali peccato nec uera sit illa sententia: omnes enim peccauerunt et egent gloria dei, nec per omnes homines mors pertransisse credatur. et in tantum omnes qui pereunt contra dei pereunt uoluntatem, ut nec ipsam mortem deus fecisse dicatur, ita scriptura testante: quia deus mortem non fecit, nec gaudet in perditione uiuorum, et inde est quod plerumque, dum pro bonis contraria postulamus, uel tardius uel nequaquam nostra exauditur oratio, et rursus ea quae credimus esse contraria utiliter ut benignissimus medicus etiam inuitissimis dominus inferre dignatur ac nonnumquam perniciosas dispositiones nostras letalesque conatus ab effectu detestabili retardat ac reuocat, ac properantes ad mortem retrahit ad salutem et de inferni faucibus extrahit ignorantes.

“For the purpose of God, by which he made man not to perish but to live for ever, remains unchangeable. When his kindness sees that even the smallest spark of good will has shone out in us, or which he himself has struck, as it were, from the hard flint of our heart, he fosters it, rouses it, and strengthens it by his inspiration, “willing all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.” For, he says, “it is not the will before your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish,” and again: “Nor does God will that a soul should perish, but he reconsiders, thinking how he who is cast off may not perish altogether.” For he is true and does not lie when he declares with an oath: “As I live, says the Lord God, I do not will the death of the wicked, but that he should turn from his way and live.” For if he does not will that one of the little ones should perish, how can he be thought, without great sacrilege, to will that not all universally but only some be saved instead of all? Whoever perish, then, perish against his will, since he cries out daily against each of them: “Turn from your most evil ways; and why will you die, O house of Israel?” and again: “How often would I have gathered your children, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you would not!” and: “Why has this people in Jerusalem turned away with a stubborn turning? They have hardened their faces, they have refused to return.” The grace of Christ, then, is at hand daily, which, since “it wills all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth,” calls all without any exception, saying: “Come to me, all you who labor and are burdened, and I will refresh you.” But if he calls not all universally but only some, it follows that not all are burdened either by original or by actual sin, and that the saying, “For all have sinned and lack the glory of God,” is not true, nor should it be believed that “death has passed to all men.” And so truly do all who perish perish against God’s will that it is not even said that God made death itself, as Scripture testifies: “For God did not make death, nor does he rejoice in the destruction of the living.” And hence it is that often, when we ask for harmful things instead of good ones, our prayer is heard slowly or not at all; and again the Lord, like a most kind physician, deigns to bring upon us, even very much against our will, things we believe harmful, for our good; and sometimes he holds back and recalls our pernicious plans and deadly efforts from their detestable outcome, draws back to salvation those who are hastening to death, and pulls out of the jaws of hell those who do not know it.

1 Tim 2:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 18:14 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Sam 14:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Ezek 33:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 23:37 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 8:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 11:28 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 3:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 5:12 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: God wills all to be saved and calls all without exception; whoever perishes does so against his will, and he fosters every spark of good will, whether he struck it himself or found it in us.

  • 1 Tim 2:4; Matt 18:14; 2 Sam 14:14 (Latin text); Ezek 33:11; Matt 23:37; Jer 8:5; Matt 11:28; Rom 3:23; Rom 5:12; Wis 1:13.
  • The words “or which he himself has struck” present the spark of good will as either appearing in us or struck by God; how this is to be read was central to later debates over this conference. It is translated literally.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (a for u); OCR slip (n for u); stray period in the digital text; two words joined in the digital text): cuins → cuius; eicnderit → excuderit; etiterum → et iterum; gratia., quae → gratia, quae; conaocat → conuocat; perennt → pereunt; at nec ipsam → ut nec ipsam; uinorum → uiuorum.

Extrabiblical texts: Wis 1:13 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 13.7 (CSEL 13:368–370; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/12-11/#p-13-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Petschenig's Latin text (CSEL 13, 1886); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 11 translation (Gibson, 1894), which omits Conference 22 (checked against the Latin only).