On Baptism, against the Donatists 2.19–3.20
Latin text: Petschenig, CSEL 51 (Latin text: Michael Petschenig, De baptismo (CSEL 51, 1908), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 4 (1887).
Chapter 2
2.19CSEL 51:194–195
Quid sit autem perniciosius, utrum omnino non baptizari an rebaptizari, iudicare difficile est. uideo quidem quid amplius homines detestentur adque horreant, uerumtamen recurrens ad illam stateram dominicam, ubi non ex humano sensu sed ex auctoritate diuina rerum momenta penduntur, inuenio de utraque re domini sententiam. nam et Petro dixit: qui lotus est non habet necessitatem iterum lauandi et Nicodemo: nisi quis renatus fuerit ex aqua et spiritu, non intrabit in regnum caelorum. quid habeat secretior diiudicatio dei, hominibus quales nos sumus difficile est fortasse cognoscere. quantum tamen ad ipsa uerba adtinet, cuilibet homini manifestum est quantum distet inter non habet necessitatem lauandi et non intrabit in regnum caelorum. ipsa denique ecclesia sic traditum tenet, ut hominem sine baptismo ad altare prorsus non possit admittere; rebaptizatum autem cum post paenitentiam liceat admitti, quid aliud ostenditur nisi eum baptismo non carere? si ergo Cyprianus, quos esse sine baptismo arbitrabatur, tamen propter unitatis uinculum ad ueniam pertinere praesumebat, potens est dominus per ipsum uinculum unitatis et pacis etiam rebaptizatis placari et eis, a quibus rebaptizati sunt, ex ipsa pacis conpensatione mitescere et omnia quae in errore commiserant delicta donare, offerentibus sacrificium caritatis quae cooperit multitudinem peccatorum, ut non adtendat quam multi eorum discessu uulnerati sint, sed quam plures eorum reditu liberati. in quo enim uinculo pacis credidit Cyprianus posse per misericordiam dei ab ecclesiae muneribus non separari eos, quos in ecclesiam sine baptismo existimabat admissos, in eodem uinculo pacis credimus per eandem misericordiam dei mereri ueniam posse rebaptizatos.
Which is more harmful, not to be baptized at all or to be rebaptized, is hard to judge. I see indeed which men detest and shudder at more; yet going back to that balance of the Lord, where the weight of things is weighed not by human feeling but by divine authority, I find the Lord’s judgment on both. For he said to Peter, “He who has been washed has no need to be washed again,” and to Nicodemus, “Unless one is reborn of water and the Spirit, he will not enter the kingdom of heaven.” What God’s more hidden judgment holds is perhaps hard for men such as we are to know. Yet as far as the words themselves go, it is plain to anyone how far apart are “has no need to be washed” and “will not enter the kingdom of heaven.” Finally, the church itself holds by tradition that a man without baptism cannot be admitted to the altar at all; but since a rebaptized man may be admitted after penance, what else does this show but that he does not lack baptism? If then Cyprian presumed that those whom he thought to be without baptism could still attain to pardon because of the bond of unity, the Lord is able, through that same bond of unity and peace, to be appeased even toward the rebaptized and, in return for peace itself, to grow gentle toward those by whom they were rebaptized, and to forgive all the offences they committed in error, when they offer the sacrifice of love, which covers a multitude of sins; so that he may attend not to how many were wounded by their departure, but to how many more were set free by their return. For in the same bond of peace in which Cyprian believed that those he thought had been admitted to the church without baptism could, by God’s mercy, not be separated from the gifts of the church, we believe that through the same mercy of God the rebaptized can obtain pardon.
John 13:10 (quotation, high confidence) · John 3:5 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Pet 4:8 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Scripture suggests that lacking baptism is worse than being rebaptized, and the church admits the rebaptized to the altar after penance; as Cyprian hoped for those received without baptism, Catholics hope for pardon for the rebaptized through unity.
- Augustine’s text of John 3:5 reads “kingdom of heaven.”
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR letter error): pernieiosius → perniciosius.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Ep. 73.23 (Letters; allusion)
Topics: Baptism, Eucharist, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 2.19 (CSEL 51:194–195; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/2-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
2.20CSEL 51:195–196
Ecclesia quippe catholica temporibus beati Cypriani et ante ipsum praeterito tempore aut rebaptizatos aut baptismum non habentes unitatis gremio continebat: aut illi aut illi salutem non nisi unitatis ipsius merito consecuti sunt. si enim non habebant baptismum qui ab haereticis ueniebant, sicut asserit Cyprianus, non recte admittebantur; et tamen eisdem ipse indulgentiam de domini misericordia propter unitatem ecclesiae non desperauit. ita ergo, si habebant baptismum, non recte rebaptizabantur. quid itaque illos nisi eadem unitatis caritas adiuuabat, ut, quod in sacramento tractando latebat humanam infirmitatem, diuina misericordia non reputaret amantibus pacem? cur ergo, cum uestros rebaptizatos timetis, et illis et uobis salutis aditus inuidetis? fuit aliquando de baptismo dubitatio: qui diuersa senserunt in unitate manserunt. ea dubitatio procedente tempore perspecta ueritate sublata est: quaestio, quae nondum finita Cyprianum non deterruit ut recederet, uos finita ut redeatis inuitat. uenite ad catholicam concordantem, quam Cyprianus non deseruit fluctuantem. aut si uobis exemplum Cypriani iam displicet, qui communicauit eis, qui cum baptismate haereticorum recipiebantur, aperte dicens: neminem iudicantes aut a iure communionis aliquem si diuersum senserit amouentes, quo itis, miseri, quid agitis? et uos ipsos fugite, quia inde processistis ubi ille permansit. si uero ei propter abundantiam caritatis et amorem fraternitatis et uinculum pacis nec sua peccata nec aliena obesse potuerunt, huc redite, ubi et nobis et uobis multo minus oberunt quae uestri finxerunt.
For the Catholic Church in the times of blessed Cyprian, and before him in time past, held in the bosom of unity either the rebaptized or those who did not have baptism: either the one group or the other obtained salvation only by the merit of that unity. For if those who came from heretics did not have baptism, as Cyprian asserts, they were not rightly admitted; and yet he did not despair of pardon for them from the Lord’s mercy because of the unity of the church. So then, if they had baptism, they were not rightly rebaptized. What then helped them but the same love of unity, so that what was hidden from human weakness in handling the sacrament divine mercy would not count against those who loved peace? Why then, while you fear your own rebaptized, do you begrudge both them and yourselves the way to salvation? There was once a doubt about baptism: those who thought differently remained in unity. As time went on and the truth was perceived, that doubt was removed. The question which, while not yet settled, did not deter Cyprian so that he withdrew, now that it is settled invites you to return. Come to the Catholic Church in agreement, which Cyprian did not desert while it wavered. Or if Cyprian’s example now displeases you, who was in communion with those received with the baptism of heretics, saying openly, “judging no one and removing no one from the right of communion if he thinks differently,” where are you going, wretched men, what are you doing? Flee from yourselves too, because you came out from where he remained. But if, because of the abundance of his love, his love of the brotherhood, and the bond of peace, neither his own sins nor those of others could harm him, return here, where what your people invented will harm both us and you far less.
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Summary: In Cyprian’s day the church held either the rebaptized or the unbaptized in unity, and unity saved them; now that the question is settled, the Donatists should return to the church Cyprian never left.
- The quoted words are from Cyprian’s opening speech (Sentences of the Council of Carthage, preface).
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 0 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 2.20 (CSEL 51:195–196; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/2-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/2-20
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
Chapter 3
3.1CSEL 51:196–197
Arbitror iam manifestum esse omnibus posse auctoritatem beati Cypriani ad retinendum uinculum pacis nulloque modo uiolandam unitatis ecclesiae saluberrimam caritatem magis pro nobis quam pro Donatistis esse proponendam. si enim Cypriani exemplo uti uoluerint ad rebaptizandos catholicos, quia ille censuit in catholica baptizandos haereticos, nos potius exemplo eius utimur, quo apertissime statuit a catholica communione id est a christianis toto terrarum orbe diffusis etiam malis et sacrilegis admissis nullo modo per separationem communionis esse recedendum, quandoquidem nec eos qui, ut eidem uidebatur, non baptizatos sacrilegos in communionem catholicam recipiebant, a iure communionis uoluit amouere dicens: neminem iudicantes aut a iure communionis aliquem si diuersum senserit amouentes.
I think it is now plain to all that the authority of blessed Cyprian, in favour of keeping the bond of peace and of the most wholesome love that in no way violates the unity of the church, is to be put forward on our behalf rather than on the Donatists’. For if they wish to use Cyprian’s example to rebaptize Catholics, because he judged that heretics should be baptized in the Catholic Church, we rather use his example in which he most plainly laid down that there must be no withdrawal by separation of communion from the Catholic communion, that is, from the Christians spread throughout the whole world, even when the wicked and sacrilegious are admitted; since he would not remove from the right of communion even those who, as it seemed to him, received the unbaptized sacrilegious into Catholic communion, saying: “judging no one and removing no one from the right of communion if he thinks differently.”
Notes and citation
Summary: Cyprian’s example of keeping communion with those who received heretics without rebaptism tells for the Catholics, not the Donatists.
- The quoted words are from Cyprian’s opening speech (Sentences of the Council of Carthage, preface).
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 0 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.1 (CSEL 51:196–197; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-1
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
3.2CSEL 51:197–198
Uideo tamen quid adhuc a me possit inquiri, uidelicet ut respondeam uerisimilibus illis rationibus, quibus uel ante Agrippinus uel ipse Cyprianus uel illi, qui eis in Africa consenserunt, uel si forte aliqui ex transmarinis terris longeque discretis nullo quidem siue plenario siue saltem regionali concilio, sed epistulari conloquio commoti sunt, ut hoc esse faciendum putarent, quod et consuetudo ecclesiae pristina non habebat et postea catholicus orbis terrarum robustissima firmitate consensionis exclusit, ut, quod per disputationes eiusmodi in aliquorum mentes inrepere coeperat, de salute ueniens unitatis potentior ueritas et uniuersalis medicina sanaret. hunc itaque sermonem uideant quam securus adgrediar. si adsequi et ostendere non potuero, quomodo refellantur ea, quae de concilio Cypriani uel epistulis eius adfirmant, Christi baptismum per haereticos dari non posse, in ea ecclesia manebo securus, in cuius communione cum eis qui sibi non consenserant mansit ipse Cyprianus.
I see, however, what may still be asked of me: namely, that I answer those plausible reasons by which Agrippinus before, or Cyprian himself, or those who agreed with them in Africa, or perhaps some from lands overseas and far away (not by any council, plenary or even regional, but by correspondence), were moved to think that this should be done, which neither the ancient custom of the church held, and which afterward the Catholic world excluded with the most robust firmness of agreement; so that what had begun to creep into some minds through disputations of this kind, the stronger truth and universal medicine coming from the salvation of unity might heal. Let them see, then, how securely I approach this discourse. If I cannot succeed in showing how the things they affirm from Cyprian’s council or his letters, that Christ’s baptism cannot be given by heretics, are refuted, I shall remain secure in that church in whose communion Cyprian himself remained with those who did not agree with him.
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Summary: Augustine undertakes to answer the arguments of Cyprian and his allies, but even if he could not, he would remain safely in the church in which Cyprian remained with those who disagreed.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.2 (CSEL 51:197–198; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-2
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
3.3CSEL 51:198–199
Quodsi dicunt propterea tunc illam catholicam ecclesiam fuisse, quia erant ibi pauci uel, si hoc putant, etiam multi, qui baptismum datum aput haereticos inprobabant et baptizabant eos qui inde ueniebant, quid ergo? ante Agrippinum, a quo ista coepit quasi noua ratio aduersus consuetudinem dimicans, numquid non erat ecclesia? quid denique? post Agrippinum, quando, nisi ad pristinam consuetudinem reditum esset, alterum moliri concilium non esset necesse Cypriano, numquid non erat ecclesia, quia talis per omnia consuetudo tenebatur, ut baptismus Christi non nisi Christi baptismus haberetur, etiamsi aput haereticos uel schismaticos datus fuisse probaretur? quodsi erat etiam tunc ecclesia et hereditas Christi non interrupta perierat, sed per omnes gentes augmenta capiens permanebat, tutissima ratio est in eadem consuetudine permanere, quae tunc bonos et malos una conplexione portabat. si autem non erat tunc ecclesia, quia sacrilegi haeretici sine baptismo recipiebantur et hoc uniuersali consuetudine tenebatur, unde Donatus apparuit, de qua terra germinauit, de quo mari emersit, de quo caelo cecidit? nos itaque, ut dicere coeperam, in eius ecclesiae communione securi sumus, per cuius uniuersitatem nunc id agitur, quod et ante Agrippinum et inter Agrippinum et Cyprianum per eius uniuersitatem similiter agebatur, et cuius uniuersitatem neque Agrippinus deseruit neque Cyprianus neque illi qui eis consenserant, quamuis aliter quam ceteri saperent, sed cum eis ipsis a quibus diuersa senserunt in eadem unitatis communione manserunt. ipsi autem considerent ubi sint, qui neque unde propagati sint possunt dicere, si iam tunc ecclesiam recepti sine baptismo haeretici et schismatici communionis contagione perdiderant, neque ipsi Cypriano consentiunt. ille enim cum receptoribus haereticorum et schismaticorum ac per hoc cum etiam ipsis receptis manere se in communione professus est, isti autem propter nomen traditorum, quos in Africa infamauerunt et in transmarino iudicio non conuicerunt, se ab orbis terrarum communione separarunt, cum etiam si uera crimina obicerent multo sunt maiora scelera haeresum et schismatum. unde sine baptismo sicut sensit ipse uenientes et in catholicam communionem non per baptismum recepti non potuerunt maculare Cyprianum. neque in eo ipso, in quo se dicunt imitari Cyprianum, inueniunt quid respondeant de recepto baptismo Maximianistarum cum eis, quos ex eo numero, quos concilio suo plenario damnatos etiam terrenarum potestatum iudicio persecuti (sunt), in suam communionem in eodem ipso episcopatu in quo damnauerant reuocauerunt. quapropter si temporibus Cypriani perdidit ecclesiam malorum communio, non habent isti suae communionis originem. si autem non perdidit, non habent suae praecisionis aliquam defensionem, insuper nec exemplum Cypriani sectantes, quia unitatis uinculum dirruperunt, nec ipsum concilium, quia Maximianistarum baptismum receperunt.
But if they say that the Catholic Church existed then because there were in it a few, or, if they think so, even many, who disapproved of baptism given among heretics and baptized those who came from there, what then? Before Agrippinus, from whom this began as a new reasoning fighting against custom, was there no church? What, again, after Agrippinus, when Cyprian would not have needed to set about another council had there not been a return to the ancient custom, was there no church, because the custom held everywhere was that Christ’s baptism was held to be nothing but Christ’s baptism, even if it was proved to have been given among heretics or schismatics? But if even then there was a church, and the inheritance of Christ had not perished by interruption, but remained, gaining increase through all nations, the safest course is to remain in the same custom, which then carried good and bad in one embrace. But if there was no church then, because sacrilegious heretics were received without baptism and this was held by universal custom, where did Donatus appear from, from what land did he spring, from what sea did he emerge, from what sky did he fall? So we, as I began to say, are secure in the communion of that church through whose universality is now done what was likewise done through its universality both before Agrippinus and between Agrippinus and Cyprian; and whose universality neither Agrippinus nor Cyprian nor those who agreed with them deserted, though they thought otherwise than the rest, but they remained in the same communion of unity with those very men from whom they differed. But let these men consider where they stand, who can neither say from what source they were propagated, if already then heretics and schismatics received without baptism had destroyed the church by the contagion of communion, nor agree with Cyprian himself. For he professed that he remained in communion with those who received heretics and schismatics, and so with the received themselves; but these men, because of the name of traitors, whom they defamed in Africa and did not convict in the overseas trial, separated themselves from the communion of the whole world, though even if the crimes they charged were true, the crimes of heresies and schisms are far greater. Hence those who came from them without baptism, as he himself held, and were received into Catholic communion not through baptism, could not stain Cyprian. Nor, in the very point in which they say they imitate Cyprian, do they find anything to answer about their acceptance of the baptism of the Maximianists, together with those from that number whom, though condemned by their plenary council and even prosecuted by the judgment of earthly authorities, they recalled into their communion in the same episcopate in which they had condemned them. So if in Cyprian’s time communion with the wicked destroyed the church, these men have no origin for their communion; but if it did not destroy it, they have no defence for their severance, following neither Cyprian’s example, since they have broken the bond of unity, nor his council itself, since they have accepted the baptism of the Maximianists.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Ps 2:8 (echo, low confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Whether or not the church existed while heretics were received without rebaptism, the Donatists are refuted: either they have no origin or no defence for their schism, and they follow neither Cyprian’s example nor his council.
- “Prosecuted” translates persecuti (sunt), where the editor adds “sunt.”
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray dash in the digital text; stray full stop in the digital text): dicunt. propterea → dicunt propterea; traditorum,. quos → traditorum, quos; de - recepto → de recepto.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.3 (CSEL 51:198–199; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
3.4CSEL 51:199–200
Nunc ergo nos manentes in exemplo Cypriani consideremus etiam concilium Cypriani. quid ait Cyprianus? Audistis, inquit, collegae dilectissimi, quid mihi Iubaianus coepiscopus noster scripserit consulens mediocritatem nostram de inlicito et profano haereticorum baptismo quidque ego ei rescripserim, censens scilicet quod semel adque iterum et saepe censuimus haereticos ad ecclesiam uenientes ecclesiae baptismo baptizari et sanctificari oportere. item lectae sunt uobis et aliae Iubaiani litterae quibus pro sua sincera et religiosa deuotione ad epistulam nostram rescribens non tantum consensit, sed et instructum se esse gratias egit. his uerbis beati Cypriani accepimus eum a Iubaiano esse consultum et quod responderit consulenti et quod ille instructum se esse gratias egit. numquid iam pertinaces existimari debemus, si considerare uoluerimus eandem ipsam epistulam qua hoc Iubaiano persuasum est? donec enim persuadeatur et nobis, si hoc persuaderi ueris rationibus potest, securos nos de iure catholicae communionis facit ipse Cyprianus.
Now then, remaining in Cyprian’s example, let us also consider Cyprian’s council. What does Cyprian say? “You have heard, dearest colleagues,” he says, “what Jubaianus our fellow bishop wrote to me, consulting our modest self about the unlawful and profane baptism of heretics, and what I wrote back to him, judging, as we have judged once and again and often, that heretics who come to the church must be baptized and sanctified with the church’s baptism. Likewise another letter of Jubaianus has been read to you, in which, replying to our letter with sincere and religious devotion, he not only agreed but even gave thanks that he had been instructed.” From these words of blessed Cyprian we learn that he was consulted by Jubaianus, what he answered him, and that Jubaianus gave thanks for having been instructed. Ought we now to be thought obstinate if we wish to consider that very letter by which Jubaianus was persuaded of this? For until we too are persuaded, if it can be persuaded by true reasons, Cyprian himself makes us secure about the right of Catholic communion.
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine turns to Cyprian’s council and proposes to examine the letter to Jubaianus, while Cyprian himself guarantees communion to those not yet persuaded.
- The quotation is from the Sentences of the Council of Carthage, preface, following the site’s translation.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR letter error; OCR letter error and word broken by a stray full stop): lubaianus coepi. scopus → Iubaianus coepiscopus; dcuotione → deuotione.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 0 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.4 (CSEL 51:199–200; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-4
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3.5CSEL 51:200–201
Sequitur enim et dicit: superest ut de hac ipsa re singuli quid sentiamus proferamus, neminem iudicantes aut a iure communionis aliquem si diuersum senserit amouentes. non solum ergo mihi saluo iure communionis adhuc uerum quaerere sed etiam diuersum sentire concedit. neque enim quisquam nostrum, inquit, episcopum se episcoporum constituit aut tyrannico terrore ad obsequendi necessitatem collegas suos adigit. quid mansuetius, quid humilius? nulla nos certe deterret auctoritas a quaerendo quid uerum sit. quando habeat, inquit, omnis episcopus pro licentia libertatis et potestatis suae arbitrium proprium tamque iudicari ab alio non possit quam nec ipse potest alterum iudicare, opinor utique in his quaestionibus quae nondum eliquatissima perspectione discussae sunt. nouerat enim, quantam sacramenti profunditatem tunc omnis ecclesia uaria disputatione uersabat, liberumque faciebat quaerendi arbitrium, ut examinata ueritas panderetur. neque enim mentiebatur et simpliciores collegas suos in uerbo capere cogitabat, ut, cum se diuersum sentire prodidissent, tunc contra quam promiserat excommunicandos esse censeret. absit ab anima tam sancta ista scelerata perfidia. qui hoc de tali uiro quasi cum eius laude sentiunt, nihil aliud quam se ipsos tales esse profitentur. ego Cyprianum, catholicum episcopum, catholicum martyrem et quanto magis magnus erat tanto se in omnibus humilantem, ut coram deo inueniret gratiam, nullo prorsus modo crediderim in sancto praesertim concilio collegarum aliud ore protulisse quam corde gestabat, praesertim cum addat et dicat: sed expectemus uniuersi iudicium domini nostri Iesu Christi qui unus et solus habet potestatem et praeponendi nos in ecclesiae suae gubernatione et de actu nostro iudicandi. sub tanti ergo commemoratione iudicii uerum expectans audire a collegis prior eis mentiendi praeberet exemplum? auerterit deus hanc dementiam a quolibet christiano, quanto magis a Cypriano! habemus ergo quaerendi liberum arbitrium ipsius Cypriani nobis mitissimo et ueracissimo sermone concessum.
For he goes on to say: “It remains that each of us should bring forward what we think on this very matter, judging no one and removing no one from the right of communion if he thinks differently.” So, with the right of communion preserved, he allows me not only to seek the truth still but even to think differently. “For none of us,” he says, “sets himself up as a bishop of bishops or compels his colleagues to the necessity of obeying by tyrannical terror.” What could be gentler, what humbler? Certainly no authority deters us from seeking what is true. “Since every bishop,” he says, “by the freedom of his liberty and power, has his own judgment, and can no more be judged by another than he himself can judge another”: in those questions, I take it, which have not yet been examined with the clearest insight. For he knew how great a depth of the sacrament the whole church was then turning over in varied disputation, and he left free the judgment of inquiry, so that the truth might be laid open by examination. For he was not lying, nor did he plan to catch his simpler colleagues in their words, so that when they had revealed that they thought differently he would then, contrary to his promise, judge that they should be excommunicated. Far be such wicked treachery from so holy a soul. Those who think this of such a man, as if in praise of him, only declare that they themselves are such. I would in no way at all believe that Cyprian, a Catholic bishop, a Catholic martyr, who the greater he was, the more he humbled himself in all things, so as to find grace before God, said with his mouth something other than he carried in his heart, especially in a holy council of colleagues, and especially since he adds and says: “But let us all await the judgment of our Lord Jesus Christ, who alone and only has the power both of setting us over the government of his church and of judging our conduct.” Would he, then, while waiting to hear the truth from his colleagues under the remembrance of so great a judgment, give them first an example of lying? God forbid such madness in any Christian, how much more in Cyprian! We have, then, the free judgment of inquiry granted us by the most gentle and most truthful words of Cyprian himself.
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Summary: Cyprian’s speech grants freedom of judgment and inquiry on unsettled questions, and he meant it sincerely; so Catholics may freely examine the question.
- Quotations from the Sentences of the Council of Carthage, preface. “The greater he was, the more he humbled himself in all things, so as to find grace before God” echoes Sir 3:18 (Vulgate 3:20).
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 0 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation); Sir 3:18 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; allusion)
Topics: Baptism, Church office
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.5 (CSEL 51:200–201; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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3.6CSEL 51:201–202
Iam quidem incipiunt eius collegae proprias proferre sententias, sed ad Iubaianum datas litteras audierunt; recitatae sunt enim, sicut in exordio commemoratum est. et nobis ergo recitentur, ut nos quoque inde, quid sentiri oporteat, quantum dominus adiuuat indagemus. dicit forsitan quispiam: quid ergo? tu modo discis quid ad Iubaianum scripserit Cyprianus? iam legi, fateor, et profecto issem in eandem sententiam, nisi me ad diligentiorem considerationem reuocaret tanta auctoritas aliorum, quos uel pares gratia doctrinae uel etiam fortasse doctiores per tot gentes Latinas Graecas barbaras et ipsam Hebraeam ecclesia toto orbe diffusa parere potuit, quae ipsum quoque pepererat, qui mihi nullo modo uideri potuerunt frustra noluisse istam tenere sententiam, non quia fieri non potuit ut in obscurissima quaestione uerius pluribus unus pauciue sentirent, sed quia non facile pro uno uel paucis aduersus innumerabiles eiusdem religionis et unitatis uiros et magno ingenio et uberi doctrina praeditos nisi pertractatis pro uiribus adque perspectis rebus ferenda sententia est. itaque sollicitius inquirenti quanta mihi etiam ipsius Cypriani litterae suggesserint pro hac sententia quam nunc ecclesia catholica tenet, ut Christi baptismus non ex merito eorum per quos datur, sed ex ipsius de quo dictum est: hic est qui baptizat agnoscendus et adprobandus sit, in progressu sermonis nostri res ipsa indicabit. arbitremur itaque iam illam epistulam quae ad Iubaianum ab eodem data est recitatam nobis, sicut in concilio recitata est. legat eam primo qui lecturus est haec quae dicturus sum, ne quid forte necessarium me subtraxisse arbitretur. nimis enim longum est nec ad explicationem susceptae rei pertinet, ut omnia uerba huius epistulae nunc commemorentur a nobis.
Now indeed his colleagues begin to give their own opinions; but they had heard the letter sent to Jubaianus, for it was read, as is recorded at the beginning. Let it be read to us too, then, so that we also may search out from it, as far as the Lord helps, what ought to be thought. Perhaps someone says: “What then? Are you only now learning what Cyprian wrote to Jubaianus?” I have read it already, I confess, and I would certainly have gone over to the same opinion, if I had not been recalled to more careful consideration by the great authority of others, equal in the grace of learning or perhaps even more learned, whom the church spread through the whole world could bear among so many Latin, Greek, and barbarian peoples, and the Hebrew people itself, the church that had also borne him; men who could in no way seem to me to have refused to hold that opinion without reason, not because it was impossible that in a most obscure question one or a few should think more truly than many, but because judgment ought not easily to be given for one or a few against countless men of the same religion and unity, endowed with great ability and rich learning, unless the matter has been thoroughly treated and examined as far as one is able. So, as I inquire more anxiously, how much even Cyprian’s own letters have suggested to me in favour of this opinion which the Catholic Church now holds, that Christ’s baptism is to be recognized and approved not by the merit of those through whom it is given, but by the merit of him of whom it was said, “This is he who baptizes,” the matter itself will show as our discourse proceeds. Let us suppose, then, that the letter he sent to Jubaianus has been read to us, as it was read in the council. Let anyone who is going to read what I shall say read it first, so that he may not think I have perhaps left out something necessary. For it is far too long, and not relevant to explaining the matter undertaken, for us to recall all the words of this letter now.
John 1:33 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine admits he would once have agreed with Cyprian’s letter to Jubaianus but for the authority of the wider church, and asks readers to read the letter, which he will show supports the view that baptism depends on Christ, not on the minister.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR letter error (l for I); stray full stop in the digital text): ut nos. quoque → ut nos quoque; lubaianum → Iubaianum.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Ep. 73 (Letters; allusion)
Topics: Baptism
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.6 (CSEL 51:201–202; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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3.7CSEL 51:202–203
Si quis autem quaerit, quid interim teneam dum ista pertracto, respondeo primum mihi Cypriani litteras suggessisse quod teneam, donec perspiciam quale sit quod coepit postea disputari. ait quippe ipse Cyprianus: sed dicit aliquis: quid ergo fiet de his qui in praeteritum de haeresi uenientes ad ecclesiam sine baptismo admissi sunt? utrum isti reuera sine baptismo fuerint an ideo sint admissi, quia illi qui admittebant eos habere baptismum intellegebant, mox considerabimus. uerumtamen quae soleret esse ecclesiae consuetudo, satis idem Cyprianus ostendit, qui ait in praeteritum de haeresi ad ecclesiam uenientes sine baptismo admissos.
But if anyone asks what I hold in the meantime while I treat this, I answer first that Cyprian’s letters have suggested to me what I should hold until I see what sort of thing it is that began to be disputed later. For Cyprian himself says: “But someone says: ‘What then will become of those who in the past, coming from heresy to the church, were admitted without baptism?’” Whether these were really without baptism, or were admitted because those who admitted them understood that they had baptism, we shall soon consider. In any case the same Cyprian shows well enough what the custom of the church used to be, when he says that in the past those coming from heresy to the church were admitted without baptism.
Notes and citation
Summary: Cyprian’s own letter shows that the church’s custom had been to admit converts from heresy without baptism.
- The quotation is Cyprian, Letter 73.23, following the site’s translation.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Ep. 73.23 (Letters; quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.7 (CSEL 51:202–203; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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3.8CSEL 51:203
Dicit etiam in ipso concilio Castus Siccensis: Qui contempta ueritate praesumit consuetudinem sequi, aut circa fratres inuidus est et malignus quibus ueritas reuelatur aut circa deum ingratus est cuius inspiratione ecclesia eius instruitur. utrum ueritas reuelata sit, mox quaeremus; tamen aliam fuisse ecclesiae consuetudinem etiam iste confessus est.
Castus of Sicca also says in that very council: “He who, despising the truth, presumes to follow custom is either envious and malicious toward the brothers to whom the truth is revealed, or ungrateful toward God, by whose inspiration his church is instructed.” Whether the truth has been revealed we shall soon inquire; yet this man too has admitted that the custom of the church was otherwise.
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Summary: Castus of Sicca’s opinion admits that the church’s custom was different.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 28, following the site’s translation.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 28 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Topics: Baptism
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.8 (CSEL 51:203; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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3.9CSEL 51:203
Dicit et Libosus Uagensis: In euangelio dominus ego sum, inquit, ueritas. non dixit: ego sum consuetudo. itaque ueritate manifestata cedat consuetudo ueritati. plane quis dubitet ueritati manifestatae debere consuetudinem cedere? sed de manifestata ueritate uidebimus; nunc tamen et iste aliam fuisse consuetudinem manifestat.
Libosus of Vaga also says: “In the Gospel the Lord says: ‘I am the truth.’ He did not say: I am custom. And so, now that the truth has been made plain, let custom yield to truth.” Clearly, who doubts that custom ought to yield to truth made plain? But about truth made plain we shall see; for now this man too shows that the custom was otherwise.
John 14:6 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Libosus of Vaga’s opinion likewise shows that the custom was different.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 30 (first part), following the site’s translation.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 30 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Topics: Baptism
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.9 (CSEL 51:203; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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3.10CSEL 51:203–204
Item Zosimus a Tarassa dixit: Reuelatione facta ueritatis cedat error ueritati, quia et Petrus qui prius circumcidebat cessit Paulo ueritatem praedicanti. noluit quidem iste dicere consuetudinem, sed errorem; uerumtamen cum dicit: quia et Petrus qui prius circumcidebat cessit Paulo ueritatem praedicanti, satis indicat quod aliud etiam de baptismo fieri solebat. simul et ammonet nos non fuisse inpossibile, ut de baptismo Cyprianus aliquid aliter saperet quam ueritas postulabat, quae ab ecclesia et ante illum et post illum retenta est, si potuit aliquid etiam Petrus aliter sapere quod ueritas non habebat, quam Paulo apostolo doctore didicimus.
Likewise Zosimus of Tharassa said: “Now that the truth has been revealed, let error yield to truth; for Peter too, who at first practiced circumcision, yielded to Paul when he preached the truth.” He did not wish to say “custom,” but “error”; yet when he says, “for Peter too, who at first practiced circumcision, yielded to Paul when he preached the truth,” he indicates well enough that something else used to be done about baptism too. At the same time he reminds us that it was not impossible for Cyprian to think something about baptism otherwise than the truth required, which was held by the church both before him and after him, if Peter too could think something otherwise than the truth had it, as we have learned through the teaching of the apostle Paul.
Gal 2:11–14 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Zosimus of Tharassa’s appeal to Peter yielding to Paul both shows a different earlier practice and shows that Cyprian too could err.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 56, following the site’s translation.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 56 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Topics: Baptism
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.10 (CSEL 51:203–204; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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3.11CSEL 51:204
Item Felix a Buslacceni dixit: In haereticis sine ecclesiae baptismo admittendis nemo consuetudinem rationi et ueritati praeponat, quia consuetudinem ratio et ueritas semper excludit. si ratio, si ueritas, optime. sed hoc mox uidebimus; interim aliam fuisse consuetudinem etiam uerbis huius apparet.
Likewise Felix of Buslacenae said: “In admitting heretics without the church’s baptism, let no one put custom before reason and truth, for reason and truth always shut out custom.” If reason, if truth, excellent. But we shall see about this soon; meanwhile it appears from this man’s words too that the custom was otherwise.
Notes and citation
Summary: Felix of Buslacenae’s opinion also shows a different custom.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 63, following the site’s translation.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray comma in the digital text): rationi et, ueritati → rationi et ueritati.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 63 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Topics: Baptism
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.11 (CSEL 51:204; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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3.12CSEL 51:204
Item Honoratus a Tucca dixit: Cum Christus ueritas sit, magis ueritatem quam consuetudinem sequi debemus. his omnibus sententiis declaratur non extra ecclesiae communionem nos esse constitutos, donec ueritas quam dicunt huic consuetudini esse praeponendam liquide luxerit. si autem ueritas id aperuerit esse retinendum quod illa consuetudo praescripserat, manifestum erit nec illam frustra fuisse institutam, adque roboratam et uigilantius etiam post istas disputationes tanti sacramenti saluberrimam obseruationem in ecclesia catholica non potuisse mutari, sed conciliorum etiam maiore robore confirmatam religiosissime custodiri.
Likewise Honoratus of Thucca said: “Since Christ is the truth, we ought to follow truth rather than custom.” By all these opinions it is declared that we are not placed outside the communion of the church until the truth which they say is to be put before this custom shines out clearly. But if the truth shows that what that custom prescribed is to be kept, it will be plain both that it was not instituted in vain, and that, strengthened and observed even more watchfully after these disputes, the most wholesome observance of so great a sacrament could not be changed in the Catholic Church, but, confirmed with the even greater strength of councils, is kept most devoutly.
John 14:6 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Honoratus of Thucca’s opinion likewise implies a contrary custom; if truth upholds that custom, its observance in the Catholic Church is vindicated.
- Sentences of the Council of Carthage 77 (first part), following the site’s translation.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Sent. 77 (The Opinions of the Eighty-Seven Bishops (Council of Carthage, 256); quotation)
Topics: Baptism
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.12 (CSEL 51:204; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
3.13CSEL 51:204–205
Scribit ergo ad Iubaianum Cyprianus de haereticorum baptismo, qui uidentur ei foris positi et extra ecclesiam constituti uindicare sibi rem nec iuris sui nec potestatis: quod nos, inquit, nec ratum possumus nec legitimum putare, quando hoc aput eos esse constet inlicitum. nec nos abnuimus, cum qui aput haereticos uel in aliquo schismate extra communionem ecclesiae baptizatur, non ei prodesse in quantum haereticorum et schismaticorum peruersitati consentit, nec illos qui baptizant, quamuis ipsum et uerum dent baptismi sacramentum, recte tamen facere extra ecclesiam colligere et contra ecclesiam sentire. sed aliud est non habere aliquid, aliud non iure habere uel inlicite usurpare. non itaque ideo non sunt sacramenta Christi et ecclesiae, quia eis inlicite utuntur non haeretici solum sed etiam omnes iniqui et impii. sed tamen illi corrigendi aut puniendi, illa uero agnoscenda et ueneranda sunt.
So Cyprian writes to Jubaianus about the baptism of heretics, who seem to him, placed outside and set beyond the church, to claim for themselves a thing that is neither within their right nor within their power. “We cannot count it either valid or lawful,” he says, “since it is established that among them it is unlawful.” Nor do we deny that one who is baptized among heretics or in some schism outside the communion of the church is not profited by it, in so far as he consents to the perversity of the heretics and schismatics; nor that those who baptize, though they give the true sacrament of baptism itself, do not act rightly in gathering outside the church and thinking against the church. But it is one thing not to have something, another to have it not by right or to usurp it unlawfully. So the sacraments of Christ and the church do not cease to be such because not only heretics but all the wicked and ungodly use them unlawfully. Yet the men are to be corrected or punished, but the sacraments are to be acknowledged and revered.
Luke 11:23 (echo, low confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine grants that baptism among heretics does not profit and is given wrongly, but distinguishes not having a sacrament from having it unlawfully: the men are to be corrected, the sacraments revered.
- The quotation is Cyprian, Letter 73.1, following the site’s translation.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Ep. 73.1 (Letters; quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.13 (CSEL 51:204–205; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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3.14CSEL 51:205
Dicit sane de hac re non unum, sed duo uel amplius facta esse concilia, sed tamen Africana. nam et in quodam septuaginta et unum episcopos fuisse commemorat, quorum omnium auctoritati uniuersae ecclesiae cum longe pluribus episcopis toto orbe diffusae auctoritatem non dubitamus cum ipsius Cypriani pace praeponere, cuius uniuersae ecclesiae ineuulsibile membrum se esse gaudebat.
He says indeed that not one but two or more councils were held on this matter, but African ones. For in one he records that there were seventy-one bishops; to the authority of all of these we do not hesitate, with the peace of Cyprian himself, to prefer the authority of the universal church, spread through the whole world with far more bishops, of which universal church he rejoiced to be an inseparable member.
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Summary: Cyprian’s African councils, one of seventy-one bishops, yield to the authority of the universal church of which he was a member.
- Cyprian, Letter 73.1, mentions the council of seventy-one bishops.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Ep. 73.1 (Letters; allusion)
Topics: Baptism, Church office
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.14 (CSEL 51:205; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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3.15CSEL 51:205–206
Non est autem aqua profana et adultera super quam dei nomen inuocatur, etiamsi a profanis et adulteris inuocetur, quia nec ipsa creatura nec ipsum nomen adulterum est. baptismus uero Christi uerbis euangelicis consecratus et per adulteros et in adulteris sanctus est, quamuis illi sint inpudici et inmundi, quia ipsa eius sanctitas pollui non potest et sacramento suo diuina uirtus adsistit siue ad salutem bene utentium siue ad perniciem male utentium. an uero solis uel etiam lucernae lux, cum per caenosa diffunditur, nihil inde sordium contrahit, et baptismus Christi potest cuiusquam sceleribus inquinari? si enim ad ipsas res uisibiles quibus sacramenta tractantur animum conferamus, quis nesciat eas esse corruptibiles? si autem ad id quod per illas agitur, quis non uideat non posse corrumpi, quamuis homines per quos agitur pro suis moribus uel praemia percipiant uel poenas luant?
But water over which God’s name is invoked is not profane and adulterous, even if it is invoked by profane and adulterous men, because neither the creature itself nor the name itself is adulterous. And Christ’s baptism, consecrated by the words of the gospel, is holy even when given through adulterers and to adulterers, though they are unchaste and unclean, because its holiness cannot be polluted, and divine power attends its sacrament, either for the salvation of those who use it well or for the ruin of those who use it badly. Does the light of the sun, or even of a lamp, contract no filth when it is spread over muddy places, and can Christ’s baptism be defiled by anyone’s crimes? For if we turn our mind to the visible things themselves by which the sacraments are administered, who does not know that they are corruptible? But if we turn it to what is done through them, who does not see that it cannot be corrupted, though the men through whom it is done receive rewards or pay penalties according to their conduct?
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Summary: Against Cyprian’s phrase “profane and adulterous water,” Augustine argues that water over which God’s name is invoked is holy whoever invokes it, as light is not soiled by mud.
- Cyprian, Letter 73.1, speaks of those who come “from adulterous and profane water.”
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Ep. 73.1 (Letters; allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.15 (CSEL 51:205–206; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
3.16CSEL 51:206–207
Recte autem non mouit Cyprianum, quod scripsit Iubaianus Nouatianenses rebaptizare eos qui ad se ex catholica uenirent. neque enim quidquid haeretici peruerse fuerint imitati propterea faciendum a catholicis non est, quia illi similiter faciunt; sed aliud est cur haeretici rebaptizare non debeant, aliud cur catholica. haeretici enim nec si in catholica faciendum esset facere deberent, quia hoc in catholicis non esse dicunt, quod ipsi cum ibi essent acceperunt et cum discederent abstulerunt. catholica uero propterea non debet iterare baptismum qui aput haereticos datus est, ne iudicare uideatur ipsorum esse quod Christi est aut eos non habere, quod intus cum acciperent amittere utique foras exeundo non possent. hoc enim etiam ipse Cyprianus cum ceteris statuit, ut, si ab haeresibus redirent ad ecclesiam quicumque in ea fuerant baptizati, non iam per baptismum sed per paenitentiam reciperentur. unde constat eos non posse amittere recedentes quod non recipiunt remeantes. non autem, sicut haeresis ipsorum est, sicut error ipsorum est, sicut sacrilegium dissensionis ipsorum est, sic etiam baptismus qui Christi est dici debet ipsorum. itaque cum illa ipsorum mala quando redeunt corriguntur, in eo quod ipsorum non est ille agnoscendus est cuius est.
Cyprian was rightly not moved by Jubaianus’s report that the Novatianists rebaptize those who come to them from the Catholic Church. For not everything that heretics have perversely imitated is therefore not to be done by Catholics, just because they do something similar; but there is one reason why heretics ought not to rebaptize, and another why the Catholic Church ought not. Heretics ought not to do it even if it were to be done in the Catholic Church, because they say that what they themselves received when they were there, and took away when they left, does not exist among Catholics. But the Catholic Church ought not to repeat baptism given among heretics for this reason: that it may not seem to judge that what is Christ’s is theirs, or that they do not have what, having received it within, they certainly could not lose by going outside. For Cyprian himself, with the others, decreed this too: that if any who had been baptized in the church returned to it from heresies, they should be received not by baptism but by penance. From this it is clear that they cannot lose on leaving what they do not receive again on returning. But baptism, which is Christ’s, ought not to be called theirs in the way that their heresy is theirs, their error is theirs, the sacrilege of their dissension is theirs. So when those evils of theirs are corrected on their return, in what is not theirs he whose it is must be acknowledged.
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Summary: That the Novatianists rebaptize is no argument; Catholics do not rebaptize because baptism is Christ’s, not the heretics’, and Cyprian himself received lapsed church members back by penance, not baptism.
- Cyprian, Letter 73.2, reports Jubaianus’s point about the Novatianists.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (word broken by a hyphen and OCR error in the digital text): simi- Uter → similiter.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Ep. 73.2 (Letters; allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.16 (CSEL 51:206–207; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
3.17CSEL 51:207
Ideo autem non se nouam aut repentinam rem statuisse beatus Cyprianus ostendit, quia sub Agrippino fieri iam coeperat. anni sunt, inquit, multi et longa aetas ex quo sub Agrippino bonae memoriae uiro conuenientes episcopi plurimi hoc statuerunt. proinde ab ipso Agrippino res noua facta est. quomodo autem dicat: adque exinde in hodiernum tot milia haereticorum in prouinciis nostris ad ecclesiam conuersi non aspernati sunt neque cunctati. immo et rationabiliter et libenter amplexi sunt, ut lauacri uitalis et salutaris baptismi gratiam consequerentur, non uideo, nisi forte hoc dicat exinde in hodiernum, quia nulla de illis, ex quo in ecclesia per Agrippini concilium baptizati sunt, quaestio alicuius excommunicationis exorta est. ceterum si permanebat ab Agrippino usque ad Cyprianum consuetudo baptizandi ab haereticis uenientes, ut quid facta sunt a Cypriano de hac re concilia? ut quid eidem Iubaiano dicit non se rem nouam facere aut repentinam, sed ab Agrippino institutam? cur enim Iubaianus de nouitate turbaretur, ut eum per auctoritatem Agrippini sanari oporteret, si ab Agrippino usque ad Cyprianum hoc tenebat ecclesia? cur denique tot eius collegae in concilio dixerunt rationem et ueritatem consuetudini praeponendam ac non potius dixerunt eos, qui aliud facere uellent, et contra ueritatem et contra consuetudinem facere?
Blessed Cyprian shows that he had not decreed a new or sudden thing, since it had already begun to be done under Agrippinus. “It is now many years and a long time,” he says, “since very many bishops, coming together under Agrippinus, a man of good memory, decreed this.” So the new thing was done by Agrippinus himself. But how he can say, “and from then until today so many thousands of heretics in our provinces, converted to the church, have not spurned or hesitated, but rather have reasonably and gladly embraced it, so as to obtain the grace of the life-giving washing and saving baptism,” I do not see; unless perhaps he says “from then until today” because, since they were baptized in the church by Agrippinus’s council, no question of excommunication arose over them. Otherwise, if the custom of baptizing those who came from heretics continued from Agrippinus to Cyprian, why were councils held by Cyprian on this matter? Why does he tell the same Jubaianus that he is not doing a new or sudden thing, but one instituted by Agrippinus? For why would Jubaianus be disturbed by novelty, so that he had to be calmed by Agrippinus’s authority, if from Agrippinus to Cyprian the church held this? Why, finally, did so many of his colleagues say in council that reason and truth must be put before custom, and not rather say that those who wished to do otherwise were acting against both truth and custom?
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Summary: Cyprian’s claim that rebaptism went back to Agrippinus shows it was an innovation; if it had been continuous custom, his councils and his colleagues’ appeals to truth over custom would have been unnecessary.
- The quotations are Cyprian, Letter 73.3, following the site’s translation.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Ep. 73.3 (Letters; quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.17 (CSEL 51:207; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
3.18CSEL 51:207–208
De remissione autem peccatorum, utrum per baptismum aput haereticos fiat, quid mihi uideretur iam in alio uolumine scripsi; sed etiam hic breuiter commemoro. si fit illic remissio debitorum per baptismi sanctitatem, rursus debita redeunt per haeresis aut schismatis obstinationem, et ideo necessarium habent huiusmodi homines uenire ad catholicam pacem, ut haeretici et schismatici esse iam desinant et eorum quae in illos redierant peccatorum purgationem in unitatis uinculo caritate operante mereantur. si autem, quamuis aput haereticos uel schismaticos idem sit baptismus Christi, non tamen ibi operatur remissionem peccatorum propter eandem discordiae foeditatem et dissensionis iniquitatem, tunc incipit ualere idem baptismus ad dimittenda peccata, cum ad ecclesiae pacem uenerint, ut uere dimissa non retineantur neque ut ille baptismus quasi alienus aut alius inprobetur, ut alter tradatur, sed ut idem ipse, qui propter discordiam foris operabatur mortem, propter pacem intus operetur salutem. idem quippe odor erat de quo dicit apostolus: Christi bonus odor sumus in omni loco, et tamen: et in his qui salui fiunt, inquit, et in his qui pereunt aliis quidem odor uitae in uitam, aliis autem odor mortis in mortem. quod etsi de alia re dixit, ad hoc ego posui, ut intellegatur aliquod bonum non solum uitam posse operari bene utentibus, sed etiam mortem male utentibus.
As to the forgiveness of sins, whether it takes place through baptism among heretics, I have already written in another book what I thought; but I recall it briefly here too. If the forgiveness of debts takes place there through the holiness of baptism, the debts return through the obstinacy of heresy or schism; and so such men need to come to Catholic peace, so that they may cease to be heretics and schismatics and, through love working in the bond of unity, obtain the cleansing of the sins that had returned upon them. But if, though Christ’s baptism is the same among heretics or schismatics, it does not work the forgiveness of sins there, because of the same foulness of discord and the wickedness of dissension, then the same baptism begins to avail for the forgiveness of sins when they come to the peace of the church; not so that truly forgiven sins are retained, nor so that that baptism is rejected as foreign or different and another given, but so that the very same baptism which outside worked death because of discord may work salvation within because of peace. For it was the same fragrance of which the apostle says, “We are the good fragrance of Christ in every place,” and yet, he says, “among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing, to some a fragrance of life unto life, to others a fragrance of death unto death.” Although he said this about another matter, I have used it here so that it may be understood that some good thing can work not only life for those who use it well but also death for those who use it badly.
2 Cor 2:15–16 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Whether sins are forgiven in heretical baptism and then return, or are not forgiven until reconciliation, the same baptism that works death outside works salvation within, like the fragrance of Christ.
- The “other book” is Book 1 of this work (1.16–21).
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.18 (CSEL 51:207–208; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-18). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
3.19CSEL 51:208–211
Nec interest, cum de sacramenti integritate et sanctitate tractatur, quid credat et quali fide imbutus sit ille qui accipit sacramentum. interest quidem plurimum ad salutis uiam, sed ad sacramenti quaestionem nihil interest. fieri enim potest ut homo integrum habeat sacramentum et peruersam fidem, sicut fieri potest ut integra teneat uerba symboli et tamen non recte credat siue de ipsa trinitate siue de resurrectione uel aliquid aliud. neque enim parua res est in ipsa intus catholica tenere integram fidem, ita ut omnino non de aliqua creatura, sed de ipso deo nihil aliter credat quam ueritas habet. numquidnam ergo, si in ipsa catholica baptizatus postea legendo audiendo et pacifice disserendo ipso domino reuelante cognouerit aliter se antea credidisse quam debuit, denuo baptizandus est? quis autem carnalis et animalis homo non per phantasmata sui cordis euagetur et constituat sibi deum, qualis ei pro suo carnali sensu placuerit, adque ita credat tantum longe aliter quam deus est, quantum a ueritate uanitas differt? uerissimam quippe sententiam dixit apostolus plenus lumine ueritatis: animalis, inquit, homo non percipit quae sunt spiritus dei. et tamen de his hoc dicebat, quos iam fuisse baptizatos ipse manifestat. eis enim dicit: numquid Paulus crucifixus est pro uobis aut in nomine Pauli baptizati estis? habebant ergo isti baptismi sacramentum, et tamen carnaliter sapiendo quid poterant de deo credere nisi secundum sensum carnis suae, ubi animalis homo non percipit quae sunt spiritus dei? talibus dicit: non potui uobis loqui quasi spiritalibus, sed quasi carnalibus. quasi paruulis in Christo lac uobis potum dedi, non escam; nondum enim poteratis. sed nec adhuc quidem potestis; adhuc enim estis carnales. tales etiam circumferuntur omni uento doctrinae de quibus dicit: ut ultra non simus paruuli, iactati et circumlati omni uento doctrinae. numquid ergo isti, si profecerint usque ad spiritalem hominis interioris aetatem et intellegentiae sinceritate cognouerint, quam longe aliter per fallaciam suorum phantasmatum de deo crediderint quam ueritas postulabat, iterum baptizandi sunt? sic etiam fieri potest, ut in alicuius haeretici librum catechumenus catholicus incidat et a ueritate nesciens discernere errorem credat aliquid contra catholicam fidem, cui tamen errori uerba symboli non repugnant; sub eisdem quippe uerbis innumerabiles haereticorum errores exorti sunt. putans ergo iste catholici alicuius magni adque docti esse illum librum, si talia credens in catholica baptizetur et posteriore diligentia cognoscat, quemadmodum credere debeat, adque arrepta fide catholica illud ex animo respuat, numquid, si hoc confessus fuerit, denuo baptizandus est? aut si, antequam discat et confiteatur, hoc sentire inueniatur et quid abicere debeat quidue credere doceatur manifestumque fiat in ea falsitate fidei baptizatum fuisse, numquid denuo baptizandus est? quid ita? quia illa sanctitas sacramenti uerbis euangelicis consecrata super eum integra permanebat, sicut eam traditam acceperat, quamuis ipse in carnalis mentis uanitate constitutus aliud cum baptizaretur crederet quam credere debuisset quapropter manifestum est fieri posse, ut fide non integra integrum in quoquam maneat baptismi sacramentum. et ideo illa, quae de diuersorum haereticorum uarietate dicuntur, ad istam quaestionem non pertinent. illud enim in quoque corrigendum est, quod ille per quem corrigitur prauum esse perspexerit, illud sanandum est quod aegrotat, illud dandum est quod non habetur et maxime caritas pacis, sine qua cetera prodesse non possunt. sed tamen cum adsunt non quasi desint tradenda sunt, sed ut fructuose et non perniciose habeantur, per ipsum uinculum pacis et eminentiam caritatis agendum est.
Nor does it matter, when the integrity and holiness of the sacrament is in question, what the one who receives the sacrament believes and with what faith he is imbued. It matters greatly for the way of salvation, but for the question of the sacrament it matters nothing. For it can happen that a man has an entire sacrament and a perverse faith, just as it can happen that he holds the words of the creed entire and yet does not believe rightly, whether about the Trinity itself or the resurrection or something else. For it is no small thing, even within the Catholic Church itself, to hold an entire faith, so that one believes nothing about God himself, let alone about some creature, otherwise than the truth has it. If then someone baptized in the Catholic Church itself afterward learns, by reading, hearing, and peaceable discussion, through the Lord’s own revelation, that he previously believed otherwise than he ought, must he be baptized again? And what carnal and natural man does not wander through the phantasms of his heart and set up for himself a god such as pleases his carnal sense, and so believe as far otherwise than God is as vanity differs from truth? For the apostle, full of the light of truth, spoke a most true sentence: “The natural man,” he says, “does not perceive the things of the Spirit of God.” And yet he said this of those whom he himself shows to have been already baptized. For he says to them, “Was Paul crucified for you, or were you baptized in the name of Paul?” These men, then, had the sacrament of baptism, and yet, thinking carnally, what could they believe about God except according to the sense of their flesh, since the natural man does not perceive the things of the Spirit of God? To such he says: “I could not speak to you as to spiritual men, but as to carnal. As to little ones in Christ I gave you milk to drink, not solid food; for you were not yet able. And even now you are not able; for you are still carnal.” Such men are also carried about by every wind of doctrine, of whom he says, “so that we may no longer be little ones, tossed and carried about by every wind of doctrine.” If, then, these men advance to the spiritual maturity of the inner man and come to know with clear understanding how far otherwise they had believed about God, through the deception of their phantasms, than the truth required, must they be baptized again? So too it can happen that a Catholic catechumen falls upon a book of some heretic and, not knowing how to distinguish error from truth, believes something against the Catholic faith, an error which the words of the creed do not contradict; for under those same words countless errors of heretics have arisen. If this man, thinking the book is by some great and learned Catholic, is baptized in the Catholic Church believing such things, and afterward learns by further diligence how he ought to believe, and, embracing the Catholic faith, rejects that error from his heart, must he be baptized again if he confesses this? Or if, before he learns and confesses, he is found to think this and is taught what he must reject and what believe, and it becomes plain that he was baptized in that falsity of faith, must he be baptized again? Why not? Because the holiness of the sacrament, consecrated by the words of the gospel, remained entire upon him, just as he received it when it was handed over, although he himself, set in the vanity of a carnal mind, believed something other than he ought to have believed when he was baptized. So it is plain that the sacrament of baptism can remain entire in someone whose faith is not entire. And so what is said about the variety of different heretics does not bear on this question. For in each person what is to be corrected is what the one correcting him has seen to be wrong; what is sick is to be healed; what is not possessed is to be given, and above all the love of peace, without which the rest cannot profit. Yet when the rest are present they are not to be handed over as if they were lacking; rather, action must be taken through the bond of peace itself and the preeminence of love, so that they may be possessed fruitfully and not to one’s ruin.
1 Cor 2:14 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 1:13 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 3:1–2 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 4:14 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: The integrity of the sacrament does not depend on the faith of the recipient: Catholics baptized with defective beliefs, like the carnal Corinthians or a catechumen misled by a heretical book, are corrected, not rebaptized.
Topics: Baptism, Heresy, Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.19 (CSEL 51:208–211; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).
3.20CSEL 51:211–212
Quamobrem si euangelicis uerbis in nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti Marcion baptismum consecrabat, integrum erat sacramentum, quamuis eius fides sub eisdem uerbis aliud opinantis, quam catholica ueritas docet, non esset integra, sed fabulosis falsitatibus inquinata. nam sub isdem uerbis, id est in nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti, non solum Marcion aut Ualentinus aut Arrius aut Eunomius, sed ipsi carnales paruuli ecclesiae, quibus dicebat apostolus: non potui loqui uobis quasi spiritalibus, sed quasi carnalibus, si possent diligenter singuli interrogari, tot diuersitates opinionum fortassis quot homines numerarentur. animalis enim homo non percipit quae sunt spiritus dei. numquid tamen ideo non integrum sacramentum accipiunt aut numquid ideo, si profecerint et opinionum carnalium uanitatem emendauerint, denuo quod acceperant repetendum est? accipit quisque secundum fidem suam, sed quantum capit gubernante illa misericordia dei, de qua praesumens idem apostolus dicit: si quid aliter sapitis, id quoque uobis deus reuelabit. laquei tamen haereticorum et schismaticorum propterea carnalibus nimium perniciosi sunt, quia ipse prouectus eorum intercluditur confirmata sententia uanitatis aduersus catholicam ueritatem et confirmata animositate dissensionis aduersus catholicam pacem. sacramenta tamen, si eadem sunt, ubique sunt integra, etiamsi praue intelleguntur et discordiose tractantur, sicut scriptura ipsius euangelii, si eadem ipsa est, ubique integra est, etiamsi innumerabili falsarum opinionum uarietate adseratur. nam quod ait Hieremias: ut quid qui contristant me praeualent? plaga mea solida est: unde sanabor? dum fit, facta est mihi sicut aqua mendax non habens fidem, si figurate adque allegorica locutione prophetiae nusquam poneretur aqua nisi quae baptismum significaret, laboraremus quaerere, quid sibi uelint haec uerba Hieremiae. nunc autem, cum apertissime in Apocalypsi exponantur aquae pro populis positae, cur non intellegam aquam mendacem et sine fide populum mendacem ac perfidum nescio.
Therefore, if Marcion consecrated baptism with the words of the gospel, “in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,” the sacrament was entire, although his faith, since under the same words he held something other than Catholic truth teaches, was not entire, but defiled with fabulous falsehoods. For under the same words, that is, “in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,” not only Marcion or Valentinus or Arius or Eunomius, but the carnal little ones of the church themselves, to whom the apostle said, “I could not speak to you as to spiritual men, but as to carnal,” if they could each be carefully questioned, would perhaps be found to have as many different opinions as there are men. For the natural man does not perceive the things of the Spirit of God. Yet do they therefore not receive an entire sacrament? Or, if they advance and correct the vanity of their carnal opinions, must what they had received therefore be repeated? Each receives according to his faith, but as much as he grasps under the guidance of that mercy of God on which the same apostle relies when he says, “If in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you.” Yet the snares of heretics and schismatics are exceedingly harmful to the carnal for this reason: that their very advance is blocked, a judgment of vanity being confirmed against Catholic truth and a spirit of dissension confirmed against Catholic peace. But the sacraments, if they are the same, are entire everywhere, even if they are wrongly understood and handled in discord, just as the scripture of the gospel itself, if it is the same, is entire everywhere, even if it is claimed in support of a countless variety of false opinions. As for what Jeremiah says: “Why do those who grieve me prevail? My wound is hard; from where shall I be healed? While it was being done, it became to me like lying water that has no faithfulness”: if in the figurative and allegorical language of prophecy water were nowhere used except to signify baptism, we would struggle to find what these words of Jeremiah mean. But now, since in the Apocalypse waters are most plainly explained as standing for peoples, I do not know why I should not understand the lying and faithless water as a lying and faithless people.
Matt 28:19 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 3:1 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 3:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 15:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Rev 17:15 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: If Marcion baptized in the name of the Trinity, the sacrament was entire though his faith was not; the same holds for all with defective beliefs. Jeremiah’s “lying water” means a faithless people, not heretical baptism.
- Cyprian, Letter 73.4–6, argued from Marcion’s false doctrine of the Trinity and from Jer 15:18. Augustine’s Latin of Jer 15:18 differs from the Hebrew.
- The Apocalypse passage is Rev 17:15.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (doubled comma in the digital text; stray full stop in the digital text): isdem uerbis,, → isdem uerbis,; ideo., si → ideo, si.
Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Ep. 73.4 (Letters; allusion); Cyprian, Ep. 73.6 (Letters; allusion)
Topics: Baptism, Heresy, Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Bapt. 3.20 (CSEL 51:211–212; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-baptismo/3-20
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 51 (1908) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).